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Speaker 1: Hello, tech sans, Welcome to the show. Settle in. You're

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Speaker 1: on the way home, or on the way to work,

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Speaker 1: or on the way wherever you are going to. Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermaer and John Harris with you, and we'll keep you

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Speaker 1: company for the next hour. Jonathan Alexander of The Houston

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Speaker 1: Chronicle is joining us, coming up in segment number two

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Speaker 1: to talk about stories he has written or is writing

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Speaker 1: regarding your Houston, Texans and some things coming up in

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Speaker 1: the future. Cal and Hannah McNair will be on a

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Speaker 1: future show this week fully Fountacasi on the Wednesday night program,

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Speaker 1: John mcclan on Thursday Night. So busy week, lot going on,

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Speaker 1: and here we go. I've got a lot to get to, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to go in no particular order. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I thought I could steal that name for a podcast,

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Speaker 1: but I think someone's already using it in no particular

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Speaker 1: order because I'd like to do things in no particular order.

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Speaker 1: Why order things, keep it interesting that way, Just go

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Speaker 1: with whatever you want to go with, right, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's a podcast. No, I think it is. I thought

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Speaker 1: I searched this thoroughly.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: See, I think it's a lame one too. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: don't even want to know. I don't want to know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you don't even I do. It's something political. Let's get

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Speaker 1: a divice. No, no, no, I don't want that. No, I

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Speaker 1: do not want no.

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Speaker 2: Here this the last episode, well, the last episode is

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Oh, the hardest thing I have ever done.

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Speaker 2: And throw away your negative internal chatterbox. Oh and then

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Speaker 2: the next previous episode is life Coaching kicking the big

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Speaker 2: seat and those eyebrows.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's in no particular order. I could steal it.

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Speaker 1: Because apparently you can write a book and copy a

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Speaker 1: title absolutely no problem. Why is that so? Though I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I could write a book called The Sun

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Speaker 1: Also Rises and Ernest Hemingway's estate is not going to

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Speaker 1: get a set about that? I guess not.

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Speaker 2: I mean you changeing youtwo and oh and it's totally different,

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Speaker 2: totally okay, you can go with it. I guess I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't want to name I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to name anything. A book, go website anything over something.

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Speaker 1: I'd see you. But I don't think it's any problem.

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Speaker 1: You wrote a book called Times on our Side, But

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Speaker 1: it's time apostrophees, so time is abbreviated. You didn't want

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Speaker 1: to go Time is on our side? No, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that's a good point. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just that's what I came up with. It was like, literally,

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Speaker 1: That's what I was going with, because time is on

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Speaker 1: my side? Is my side? Is a rolling Stone song,

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Speaker 1: one of their very Oh yeah, I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. Mick Jagger posted a pic of

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Speaker 1: himself at a polo match. No, it was a cricket match. Cricket.

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Speaker 1: They're very different, Johnny, very very very different. One animals

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Speaker 1: Mick Jagger's not sitting in the bleachers of a cricket match. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that ain't happening. Hey, where's Mick? He's up there? And

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Speaker 1: It was last year, I think, right, and we just

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Speaker 2: But this setup is so intriguing for Morgan just just

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Speaker 1: I means, like, oh my god, that's a mitch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't, you don't even realize.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know if the band realizes

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would just thank everybody.

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Speaker 2: But I mean it's incredible the number of thick wires

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Speaker 1: It's just my word, it's unbelievable to kind.

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Speaker 2: Of show that has, you know, goes with one of

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Speaker 2: Toro was like, you know, there were certain things they

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Speaker 1: care what you did. Anyway, let's get to this. I'll

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Speaker 1: start right here. Everyone is asking me, and everyone is

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Speaker 1: asking you, what do you think? So here you simply

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Speaker 1: put here we are. It's June seventeenth. And this will change,

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Speaker 1: This will evolve, different information comes out. People get healthy,

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Speaker 1: let's take the temperature. What are you thinking? How how

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Speaker 2: So I know there were some there were obviously some

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Speaker 2: And that says something to me, Like everybody was here,

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Speaker 2: the vibe and the building, and guys have talked about it,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that we could say that every

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Speaker 2: I think that just makes every everybody that much. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and so you get best on best. Guys are competing,

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Speaker 2: they're competing for everything. And the most competitive dude you

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Speaker 2: there's no competition. He's the bona fide a one leader

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Speaker 2: I just I like that the fact that everybody was here.

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Speaker 2: There's a certain camaraderie with this team. I see it

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Speaker 1: one to keep. Yeah, I know, not everybody necessarily will

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Speaker 2: I know fans will sit there and go, well, if

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Speaker 2: the off Finch line is very good, that's not gonna matter.

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Speaker 2: It does matter because the groups, the units that have

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Speaker 2: there and because of that, they'll play well. And I

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Speaker 2: think and Titus is one of those guys. In fact,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have Jonathan Alexander on tonight, and I got

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Speaker 2: the question for both y'all and the KOI I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: let you think on it. Now, what one player on

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Speaker 2: that has to play out of his mind? Not CJ,

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Speaker 2: leads to big things for the offense.

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Speaker 1: My guy's Titus Howard. I've said this for a couple

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Speaker 2: I feel like Titus has and I noticed this last

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Speaker 2: and we've got to know Titus over the years, seen

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Speaker 2: Titus grow up. Titus got here, wasn't married, he got

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Speaker 2: amazing to have seen that young man grow up into

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Speaker 2: what he is now. And I remember, and we've talked

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Speaker 2: about a lot of things over the years, and I said,

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Speaker 2: what you did today for the team is incredible and

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Speaker 2: that will be remembered and you should be thankful that

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Speaker 2: and I thank you for that. As a ployee of

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you one that it may shock you.

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Speaker 1: I think Petrie helps you in that way.

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Speaker 2: He helps against the run, he ends up helping against

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Speaker 2: That's right exactly, and having you know Jalen, we you know,

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Speaker 2: There are ways that they can be I would say

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Speaker 1: For the roles that are needed on that play.

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Speaker 2: Look on third and one fully fought Acasi, Mario Edwards,

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Speaker 1: Very well put?

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Speaker 2: What's the best eleven against third down running situations? What's

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Speaker 2: twenty three. So we don't have him in that game.

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Speaker 2: We had him in a playoff game. We didn't have

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Speaker 2: him in this last game. So look, I think against

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Speaker 2: the Ravens in particular because to me, if you can

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Speaker 2: walk out on the field and go toe to toe

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Speaker 2: physically with the Ravens. You could beat anybody in this

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Speaker 2: league on any givens.

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Speaker 1: And this is true.

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Speaker 2: I think you could beat anybody in any given Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You have that team to be able to do that.

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Speaker 2: But it's going against the Ravens to walk out there

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Speaker 2: and say, you know what, I'm tired of you big

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Speaker 2: bully pushed us around. I'm tired of you running around

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and doing the things you do. It's time

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Speaker 2: that we shut all that down. And the Ravens start

446
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Speaker 2: looking at you as you know what, these are some

447
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Speaker 2: bad boys on the other side. This is going to

448
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Speaker 2: be a tough ball game. Whereas now I think I

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Speaker 2: look at it and go, we got.

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Speaker 1: This all right? So ask me the first question I

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Speaker 1: asked you to get this whole thing started. What player defensively? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: even before that, okay, like, how how's it going? What

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Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Because that's the question that when you walk in the

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Speaker 2: grocery store somebody say, hey, Vos the Texans, what do

456
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Speaker 2: you think? It's the question you get, you know, all

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: For the first time, I don't even think I said

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Speaker 1: this last year, but for the first time in a

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Speaker 1: long time, I think we're going to be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to be pretty and by pretty good,

462
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Speaker 1: we should be able to win any game we play.

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Speaker 1: Right now, We're not going to win every game we play,

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Speaker 1: but we should be able to win the possibilities there. Now.

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Speaker 1: You could say that about any NFL team in the

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Speaker 1: NFL game. I get it any given Sunday, like you

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Speaker 1: just said moments ago. But I feel like this team,

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Speaker 1: and I know we don't know exactly what the offensive

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Speaker 1: line is going to look like, and I just know

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Speaker 1: how they played last year, and I think they'll play

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Speaker 1: better than that collectively. And I think CJ. Stroud year three,

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Speaker 1: turning twenty four years old, let's go. Let's go. Last year,

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Speaker 1: high expectations, real tough schedule, didn't handle it as well

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Speaker 1: as they could, got off to a great start actually

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Speaker 1: record wise, and then it started to really sort of erode.

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Speaker 1: But I believe this year they'll have a good year.

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Speaker 1: And last year was a good year. I think they

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Speaker 1: could have a better year. I think they can get

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Speaker 1: to eleven twelve wins, but a lot of things have

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Speaker 1: to happen. We all agree on that. I just really

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Speaker 1: see the potential in this bunch. They know the pitfalls,

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Speaker 1: they know what expectations bring, they know the kind of

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Speaker 1: game they're going to be getting from other opponents. They're

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Speaker 1: a little more seasoned, a year more season than they

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Speaker 1: were last year. I think they'll handle it a lot better.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Number One, last year, it felt like we had to

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Speaker 2: win games with the defense playing out of its mind,

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Speaker 2: the offense doing just enough. Special teams, like I think

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Speaker 2: about the Miami game last year, obviously plagues absolutely well,

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Speaker 2: but it did enough special teams has an extraordinary day,

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Speaker 2: and then defense, you know, dominates the second half. In particular,

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Speaker 2: I think what this team has to prove, and I

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Speaker 2: think it has the potential of doing it, as long

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Speaker 2: as a guys stay healthy, be offensive line comes together

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Speaker 2: like we want and we expect. They have to be

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Speaker 2: able to win games different ways. We have to be

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Speaker 2: able to win a shootout like we did against Tampa

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Speaker 2: Bay in twenty three. We have to be able to

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Speaker 2: win defensive, you know, grinded out kind of games. We

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Speaker 2: have to win the Pham Booth fist fights with the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: with the Niners.

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Speaker 1: When we get in those fist fights. We got it.

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Speaker 1: We've got to win those. We got a land punch.

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Speaker 2: But we have to win games in different ways, I think,

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Speaker 2: and I know this. Our bye week is week six, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll use last year's World champs.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying where the Eagles or anything.

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Speaker 2: But they had a new offensive coordinator and they were

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Speaker 2: breaking in Vic Fangio really as the full time defense coordinator,

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Speaker 2: even though he had kind of helped them a couple.

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Speaker 1: Of years prior.

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Speaker 2: But they were breaking in two new coordinators and Sakwan Barkley.

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Speaker 2: They go two and two out of the gate. People

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Speaker 2: are panicking Week fives, bye week, so they're going on

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Speaker 2: to the They're going to the bye week two and two.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thinks you're just an ordinary football team. Nothing to

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Speaker 1: see here after just the previous year's finished. Especially right

519
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Speaker 1: they're two and two. People are calling for Sirianni's job

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Speaker 1: and what they do. They won like thirteen in the

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Speaker 1: next fourteen or whatever it was fourteen or fifteen or something.

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Speaker 2: And they they found himself. I wouldn't be surprised with

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Speaker 2: a new play caller, new offensive generator, new offensive line

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Speaker 2: coach breaking in roughly a new offense line across the board.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me if we did. Out of the

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Speaker 2: shoot sort of struggle a little bit to find our footing.

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Speaker 2: But week six by we come out of that and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like it's on now. Get

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Speaker 2: it going, yeah, get it going, all right, Jonathan Alexander,

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Speaker 2: we'll get it going with him next from the Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 2: He's writing about the facility, other things from many camp leftovers.

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Speaker 2: From there, let's get into it with Jonathan from the

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Speaker 2: Chronicle next year on Texans Radio. Back from the break

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Speaker 2: here in the Hundai Texans Radio studio, Mark Vandermere and

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Speaker 2: John Harris and on the line with us right now,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle. Jonathan, great to have

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Speaker 2: you visit Happy Desert of the off season so far,

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Speaker 2: how's it going.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling yeah, this is the one time where wee

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Speaker 3: can It's the dead period, so we can take as

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Speaker 3: many vacation days as we want because nothing is happening during.

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Speaker 1: This time, it feels like it. But you had a

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Speaker 1: big story about the Texans practice facility, so tell us

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Speaker 1: about that. What you learn. Mike Toman, the president of

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Speaker 1: the Texans, hard at work trying to put it together.

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Speaker 1: We read some of the piece, but what can you

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Speaker 1: share with the listeners, Jonathan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, talking with Mike Toeman, you know, he

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Speaker 3: says things are coming pretty quickly and faster than what

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Speaker 3: they were initially expecting, so fast that they reorganized the

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Speaker 3: business department and moving a couple of people in different positions,

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Speaker 3: and and because they think this deal could happen fairly soon.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I wrote about that and and what

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Speaker 3: could come of it, and obviously we talked about it

555
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Speaker 3: in the past, but you know, they want to build

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Speaker 3: a world class facility, one that rivals other ones, and

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Speaker 3: one that keeps getting brought up is the one in Dallas,

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Speaker 3: and they'll have Jerry Angel who will focus solely on

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Speaker 3: that on that project.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating in this discussion because I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, well, they're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna build a new state No, this is not the

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Speaker 1: new stadium.

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Speaker 2: This is the new facility that houses coaches, staff, business shops,

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Speaker 2: football ops, everybody, and where the Texans would practice. It

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Speaker 2: is not energy stadium. So I think it's always interesting

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Speaker 2: to kind of put that out there. Make sure fans

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Speaker 2: understand we're talking two different things here, Jonathan, did you

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Speaker 2: there's always the when and then there's the where when

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Speaker 2: you kind of just address. Not really sure, but it's

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Speaker 2: moving a little bit faster than maybe thought. How about

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Speaker 2: the where? Are there any ideas about where this might

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Speaker 2: end up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think there are a couple of places that it

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Speaker 3: could end up. One, of course, Harris County, who probably

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Speaker 3: told us that they're trying to keep the headquarters in

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Speaker 3: the county limits. But I think there are also other

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Speaker 3: counties where you could see the Texans go, and they've

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Speaker 3: been pretty vocal about it. They're not opposed to doing that.

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Speaker 3: You know. Obviously, what is the county that encomes to.

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Speaker 1: Proland got zil Oh, Brazoria.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brazoria Fort Bend is an option. Montgomery County. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think what they're in particular focusing on is trying

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Speaker 3: not to be too far from NRG Stadium, but also

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Speaker 3: be around where their players mostly live. And obviously players

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Speaker 3: live different areas. But you know, I think from what

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Speaker 3: Mike Toman told me, he didn't give any specifics of who,

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Speaker 3: even though I know of a couple, but I'm just

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Speaker 3: not ready to kind of confirm them. He told me

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Speaker 3: a variety of entities have reached out to them and

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Speaker 3: they're serious about those inquiries.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know that Froburg's farm is in Brazoria County

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Speaker 1: and that is a cool place with strawberries and stuff.

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Speaker 1: You can go pick fresh strawberries there. Yeah, it's an

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Speaker 1: awesome place. Bergs. Yeah, So if it's near that strawberry farm,

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Speaker 1: that would be awesome. Oh. All I know is yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of different possibilities, So we'll find

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Speaker 1: out soon enough. Hopefully we'll find out soon enough. Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Alex had it for the Chronicle joining its Okay, in

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Speaker 1: between last time we got together. In this time, we

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Speaker 1: did talk about one day of mini camp practice, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't talk about the next day of mini camp

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Speaker 1: practice because that was on a Wednesday. So any other

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Speaker 1: takeaways from mini camp? You left the Texans on the

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Speaker 1: practice field feeling what Jonathan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the left feeling that they're going to have

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Speaker 3: a legitimate defense. You know, we saw early on how

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Speaker 3: dominant Will Anderson was and then you add on Danil

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Speaker 3: Hunter and the two of those guys are going to

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Speaker 3: recavoc on opposing quarterbacks having said that, you look on

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Speaker 3: the opposite side, I think there's still much to be

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Speaker 3: learned about the Texans offense, particularly the offensive line, as

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Speaker 3: they continue to figure out these offensive line combinations, who's

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Speaker 3: going to start where. It was interesting to see J.

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Speaker 3: Andrews running with the first team in many camp, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I think that's significant because obviously the Texans

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Speaker 3: want to get somebody who has great chemistry with CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 3: and Andrews wasn't running with the first team before. And

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously nothing has been decided yet, but I

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Speaker 3: thought that was significant.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a work in progress. But they have

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Speaker 3: a different mindset Titus that I were telling me they

625
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Speaker 3: want to be nasty, and then they've got new players

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Speaker 3: in a new coach who's leading them. So I think

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Speaker 3: there's a chance that this offense line could turn around

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Speaker 3: in the right direction. I think that's key to the

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Speaker 3: offense being as good as it is.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan I, I can't remember the timing of Nick Chubb's

631
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Speaker 2: signing with the Texans, whether we had a chance to

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Speaker 2: talk to talk about it last week or not, But

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Speaker 2: now that we've had a chance to let it digest

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Speaker 2: a little bit like, Okay, Nick Chubb is in this backfield,

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Speaker 2: So what does it mean your opinion?

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Speaker 1: What does it mean? Who do you think?

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Speaker 2: It's now a big competition at this point, we don't

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Speaker 2: know when Joe's exactly going to be back. We hope

639
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Speaker 2: he's back to being in a training camp. Let's say

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Speaker 2: everybody's healthy. How do you think this competition goes at

641
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Speaker 2: running back? And what as you've thought about it, what

642
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Speaker 2: do you see as the positives of having Nick Chubb

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Speaker 2: in this backfield?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, I think they made the move

645
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Speaker 3: because you know, Damian Pierce and Joe Mixon's injury and

646
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Speaker 3: they needed to sure run a proven running back. Now,

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Speaker 3: obviously Nick Chubb has an injury history. But if all

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Speaker 3: of them are healthy, then I think that presents a

649
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: little bit of a conundrum with some of the guys

650
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: because they're probably only going to keep or guys five

651
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: maximum and you got obviously Joe Mixon is gonna make it.

652
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Speaker 3: I'd expect if Nick Chubb is anywhere close to where

653
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: he was before the injury, he would make it. With

654
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: Marx is gonna make it. Dara is huge on special teams.

655
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say it's a guarantee, but I

656
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: think he's likely to make it. And then you got

657
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: a question whether Damian Pierce makes it in that case.

658
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Speaker 3: And I think given the fact that Nick Chubb is

659
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Speaker 3: a little bit more of a guy who you wouldn't

660
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: mind running, Damian Pearce has seen his carry numbers drop

661
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: and not you know, Damien does do kick returns. I

662
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: think he'd likely be the oyd man out if everybody

663
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Speaker 3: was healthy. But it's still a long way to go,

664
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Speaker 3: and we'll see how that plays itself out. Then again,

665
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't exactly know where Damian Pierce is

666
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: injury wise. He might begin to yet on the pup

667
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: list and they might.

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Speaker 1: Have extra spot Jonathan right now, And we're gonna hold

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Speaker 1: you to this. No, we want who's gonna have the

670
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Speaker 1: second most receptions on the team. I would assume that

671
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Speaker 1: you would pick Nico number one. But who's gonna have

672
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Speaker 1: the second most receptions on the team. I'm not talking

673
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Speaker 1: about yards. I'm talking about number of catches on this squad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you said that, not your yards, because

675
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Speaker 3: I do think Higgins will have the second most yards.

676
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Speaker 3: But I think Christian Kirk will have the second most catches.

677
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Speaker 3: I think Christian Kirk may even battle Nico. You know,

678
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Speaker 3: a lot of guys in the slide, you know, get

679
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: a lot of short catches, and I see Christian Kirk

680
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: as long as he stays healthy. Obviously he had the

681
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: injuries the last couple of years, but as long as

682
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Speaker 3: he stays healthy, he can be effective. He was explosive

683
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: in many camping OTAs and even that second day seem

684
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 3: to have like an established connection with c J. Stroud

685
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: as a security blanket. So you know, I definitely seen

686
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: Christian Kirk being a weapon, especially when you got those

687
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: two guys on the outside and Nico Collins and Jenn

688
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: Higgins being huge threats. That up the opportunities for Christian Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this one's for both of you. Take c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud out of the conversation. What one offensive player one

691
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: has to have either a career year or Pro Bowl

692
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: year or fining year for this offense in this team

693
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: to get to eleven plus wins. Like this player, you

694
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: look at and go, this guy had a career year

695
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: and as a resist, the offense went to a different

696
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 2: level and that made this a better team.

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Speaker 1: Get to eleven twelve wins John, then you go first.

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Speaker 3: As far as on the offense, you know, I almost

699
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: want to say Nico Collins because of how important he

700
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: is to the offense, But I'm gonna go with Cam Robinson.

701
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: You know, I think the offensive line has to be

702
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 3: for the Texans to be as good as they want

703
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: to be. I think the offensive line has to be

704
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: on point, and you lose a little bit of talent

705
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Speaker 3: when you go from Laramy tumpsl to Cam Robinson. So

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Speaker 3: I think Cam Robinson has to have, you know, the

707
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Speaker 3: best year of his career for them to go as

708
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Speaker 3: far as they want to go. That's one of the

709
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: more important positions on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Nice answer. I like that one. I'm gonna go with

711
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Speaker 1: Joe mix. I think Joe Mixon has to have a

712
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Speaker 1: huge year because last year you get over one thousand

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Speaker 1: thousand yards. Great, I want to see thirteen fourteen hundred yards.

714
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Speaker 1: I know they picked up Chubb, I know they have Damien,

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Speaker 1: I know they have Dare, but we all know that

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Speaker 1: Mixon is the one guy, if healthy at this stage

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Speaker 1: of his career, can really do these things. I'd love

718
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Speaker 1: to see Pierce able to do those things the way

719
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Speaker 1: he did in twenty twenty two. I'd love to see

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Speaker 1: Chubb get back to being Nick Chubb. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm going to see that, but I feel pretty

722
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Speaker 1: good about Mixon being able to be mixing if he's upright,

723
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Speaker 1: so you need that. And it kind of goes along

724
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Speaker 1: with Jonathan's point. If Mixon's getting thirteen fourteen hundred yards,

725
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Speaker 1: the old line is probably playing pretty well. And it's

726
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Speaker 1: not that he's more important than the wide receivers, but

727
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you can get your receiving yards or

728
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: you get that passing yard that you need if Mixon's

729
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: running the ball well. Jonathan, talk to me about this.

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Speaker 1: AFC teams contending for playoff berths and or more. We

731
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Speaker 1: have three double digit win teams from last year that

732
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Speaker 1: did not win their division. Two of them made the

733
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Speaker 1: player actually three of them made the playoffs. They all

734
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Speaker 1: three made the playoffs, the Broncos, the Chargers, and the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Which one of those teams Steelers now with Aaron Rodgers.

736
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Speaker 1: Of course, are you buying stocking to soar and upset

737
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: people and maybe even make it to the AFC Championship game. Broncos, Chargers,

738
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Speaker 1: Steelers double digit win teams from twenty twenty four that

739
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: did not win their division. Who's it going to be?

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Speaker 3: You know, part of me wants to say the Broncos,

741
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: but I do believe there's something to the second year curse.

742
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: Not necessarily a curse, but I do think you get

743
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: more film on quarterbacks in their second year and they

744
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: start to struggle. I think Bonis could struggle, but I

745
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: think the Chargers and given the fact that you have

746
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: a veteran quarterback, there, a really good defense, and Jim Harbar,

747
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: who's approving coach, who's really turned around every program he's

748
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: been to. You get him a year two with that team,

749
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Speaker 3: I think they have the best chance. I'm not saying

750
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: that will happen, because I don't think it'll happen, but

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Speaker 3: I think they have a better chance than the Broncos

752
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Speaker 3: and the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Johnny, you address that, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I think Broncos because of the defense.

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Speaker 1: All Right, If I threw the Bengals in with that

756
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: group because they had nine wins, would they replace No? No,

757
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: not for me, Jonathan, not for me.

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00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: No. I love Joe Burrow, but I think they have

759
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: some issues elsewhere, in particular defense. I'm not convinced about

760
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: their defense.

761
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: Okay, the flip side of that question is the Texans

762
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: will play three teams that drafted in the top six

763
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: this year. They were the Titans, the Jaguars, the Raiders.

764
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Speaker 2: Which of those three makes a bid for the playoffs?

765
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Speaker 2: Be it wild Carter.

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Speaker 1: Win a division, Titans, Jacks are Raiders, Titans, Jags Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Our guest goes first, Johnathan goes first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the Raiders. You know, they get

769
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: a quarterback Gino Smith who's familiar with Pete Carroll's system,

770
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: a good coach, and playing the last place schedule. You know,

771
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: they won't win the division, but I think they could

772
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Speaker 3: with the easy schedule, they could win the wildcard.

773
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you there on the Raiders. Yeah, you

774
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: have Gino Smith playing quarterback. Now, Pete Carroll's a completely

775
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: different culture situation. I think that's gonna be pretty healthy

776
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: for them. But they play in a tough division where

777
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: the other three teams made the postseason. I think it's

778
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: a tough call almost between Jags and Titans. And you

779
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: might say, oh, come on, Vandy, Well, Jags won four games,

780
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: Titans won three with Will Levis, so I think the

781
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: Titans two or three games. I think Titans with cam

782
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: Ward can upset some people. And I'm not convinced that

783
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Jags are bouncing all the way back. I'm not convinced

784
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: they are in a tail spin. And I know they

785
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: have a new staff, but they are in a tail

786
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: spin that dates back to twenty twenty three. So you

787
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: have that to deal with. Yeah, you just hate Travis Hunter.

788
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: Don't hate Travis Hunter. I like Travis Hunter. I just

789
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: don't like AFC opponents, that's all.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to a good guy, Everett, and he said,

791
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 3: and you know obviously he's now biased, but he was saying,

792
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: Cam Woard looked really good in practice.

793
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, cam Wore can make plays, so and practice

794
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna look really I mean that ball comes out

795
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: of his hands.

796
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Speaker 2: I mean it'll it'll grab you a little again, like

797
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: Will Levis, he will throw you one during the game.

798
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: You have to take advantage of it and make him

799
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Speaker 2: pay for doing things that.

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Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of Yolo in his game.

801
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Speaker 1: I'll just say that Yolo. And Jonathan's talking about Everett Geerlings,

802
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: who was with Texans PR who's now going to be

803
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: VP of PR. I don't know if that's his exact title,

804
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: but he is a VP with the Tennessee Titans organization,

805
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: so congratulations to him starting up there. I think first

806
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: full week is probably this week for him. Very good, Jonathan.

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Speaker 1: What do you have going on to the Houston Chronicle

808
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,479
Speaker 1: for us?

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00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? I might have something a little bit later on

810
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: Mike Tilman related. I can't exactly give you the full ooh,

811
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: but I'll have something coming out later on in the weekend.

812
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: And today has something on Titus Howard and how the

813
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: offensive line has changed his mindset this this offseason.

814
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: Sounds great, Jonathan, Thanks a lot for being with us,

815
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me coming up on the show. Huge

816
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: anniversary in sports? What is it? Find out? It's Texans

817
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: All Access. Final segment here on the show. Not enough

818
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: time to get into everything we discussed with Jonathan Alexander,

819
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: but if you miss some of that, it'll show up

820
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: in podcast form soon enough. So do you know what

821
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Speaker 1: this day is? Today is June seventeenth.

822
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: Thirty one years ago? What happened on this day? It's

823
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 2: the greatest sports day of all time. It's Game five, right,

824
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: and it's the OJ Chase. Yeah, but there's something else

825
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: that happened. A couple of other things.

826
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Speaker 1: You had.

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Speaker 2: You had Arnold Palmer playing for the last time in

828
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: the US Open. I think I think it was US Open. Yeah, yeah,

829
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: so it was US Open. So he was playing for

830
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: the last time US Opened. Ken Griffy hit three home runs.

831
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Speaker 2: Okay on this day, nineteen ninety four, June seventeenth, This

832
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: is OJ day.

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Speaker 1: It was also the parade day for the New York Rangers.

834
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Speaker 2: They got the Stanley Cup for the first time in

835
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Speaker 2: fifty four years.

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Speaker 1: That was a big deal. I remember that that NHL year.

837
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Speaker 2: That was my last year of Brown, so a lot

838
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: of hockey fans and so kind of watching it intently

839
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: and get home watch them beat the Canucks. The parade

840
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: was that day, June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, thirty one

841
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 2: years ago.

842
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: What was the call, I don't know who the announcer was,

843
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: one more hill to climb when they won the game

844
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: that got them within a game of clinching the cup.

845
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: One more hill to climb. Oh the Rangers of that. Yeah,

846
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: that's a big good call. I gotta get that name. Yeah,

847
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: they Marv. They end up it's not Marv. They end

848
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: up beating the Canucks. They had the big parade that

849
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: takes play. Don't know. Marvi used to call Rangers games

850
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: like way before.

851
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: That, and so I'll never forget. We're watching game five Rockets.

852
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: They're in the finals. It's to two, they split the

853
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 2: first two, Sam Cassel. It's a big shot in game three,

854
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: so we're just looking to get out of there. We've

855
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: got to win that the Rockets needed. But it's game five.

856
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: If you can win this one, all you got to

857
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: do is win one of the two at home. And

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00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: you and you got a chance, yeah and you you don't.

859
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: But in the third quarter ish, all of a sudden

860
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: they break into the action and you see this white

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Speaker 2: Bronco speeding down LA Highway with cops behind and a

862
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: bunch of twenty somethings at the time, and there it

863
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: is just silence.

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00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: It's silenced.

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00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: We're just stunned, like we're watching a Rockets game and

866
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: we're like what, And then all of sudden we see

867
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: it's OJ and all of sudden, everybody just shut up,

868
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: and like we wanted to hear every single word they

869
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: were saying.

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00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: We all know what we thought was going to happen.

871
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: When he was in the car. Yes, in the Broncos.

872
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: Yes, and all the minds all went to the worst

873
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: case scenario, like, oh this is this is bad.

874
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: Ford Motor Company, the official trucks and SUVs, the Houston

875
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: Texans uh I advocated for the return of the Bronco

876
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: way before they returned it, I said, this is a

877
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: classic vehicle, oh would and you should bring back the

878
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: white one too. Yes. Now, the new designs are awesome.

879
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: I see them everywhere. I love them. I love the

880
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: Bronco I love them. Oh, I love them, But I

881
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: also love the old one. I think the old one

882
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: is super cool. Like I think most car manufacturers should

883
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: bring back their classic old designs, but with brand new

884
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: technology inside. But keep the old shell except modernized, if

885
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: you will, whatever you have to do to reinforce it,

886
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: because people would drive that stuff all day long.

887
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: There are companies out there that they renovate, and that's

888
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: the right way. They renovate, retro fit, retro fit like

889
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: late sixties, early seventies.

890
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: Broncos. Bring back the old Mustang like the mark They're beautiful. Yes, like,

891
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love these things. Why yeah, White

892
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: Bronco bring it back. Bring it back exactly the way

893
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: we sell like nobody's been. It would sell like crazy,

894
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: would sell huge, and no one thought we were going

895
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: to go in this direction with this segment. But that's

896
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an anniversary.

897
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: It annis thirty one years ago today Rockets Knicks Game

898
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: five and the OJ Simpson chase.

899
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: Same tis what I passed out before it happened. And look,

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00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't in Houston yet. Yeah, I passed out for

901
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: some reason. I was really tired that night. Yeah, and

902
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: I woke up and it was over. The game was over,

903
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: the chase was over. But CNN Headline News actually used

904
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: to do the news, so I joined it at the

905
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: top of the hour I forget what hour ten or eleven,

906
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and they recapped the whole thing and

907
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh. And they they used to

908
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: do such a good job every half hour of recapping

909
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: all the news and it was a beautifully done newscast.

910
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: So I saw the whole thing unfold. I thought, this

911
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: is amazing. And my boss was upset because they the

912
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: station was trying to call me and they wanted to

913
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: get me on the air to talk about what was happening.

914
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: Just have a radio passed outside thirty one years ago today.

915
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that's amazing. What a day that way,

916
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: I mean just and they're not real nature of that day.

917
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: And it started off with Rangers and US open and

918
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: then Griffy and okay, Rockets Knicks were locked in game

919
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: five man, and we knew it was kind of there

920
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: was We knew stirring stuff was going on.

921
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we knew all that was a fugitive. We

922
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: didn't happen earlier in the day. It happened earlier in

923
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: the day is declared a fugiative.

924
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: But by the time the Rockets game started, we're like, okay,

925
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: we're focused on Rockets. When they broke into an NBA

926
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: Finals game with it, we're like, okay, this is for

927
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: real story.

928
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: How many documentaries there's another out right now? There's the

929
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: whole thirty for thirty series. There's at least three that

930
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I know of, and they're all three. They're all watchable

931
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: because they're all very very good.

932
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: By someone, I watched one of them from beginning at

933
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: to thirty for thirty, but a different one I need

934
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: to watch it.

935
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: He loved it. He didn't know anything about it, really,

936
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: he knew it, but he didn't really know. It was awesome.

937
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: He loved every second of it. It's really good, huge story. Okay,

938
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Speaker 1: that's it for the show tonight. Tomorrow night, Foley Faicassi

939
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Speaker 1: joins us. Thursday. It's John McClain the mcnairs this week

940
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: as well. Big week on Texans All Access and we're

941
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Speaker 1: gonna have Area forty five coming your way next. Have

942
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: a great evening, Go Texans.