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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly here with the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt Now that we know the picks,

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Speaker 1: And I think it's safe to say Echles Harrison slaves.

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Speaker 1: Let's count them as Steelers, you know what I mean? Okay,

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Speaker 3: Right as things stand now, Yeah, we have picks twenty

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Speaker 3: you know, we do have five trade offers. Some of

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Speaker 3: we're back up here now. The top players available Will Howard.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think you draft three defense. We would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two premium ass sets on d line. That's right

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Speaker 3: One more receiver wouldn't break my heart, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: In round six six, we took Cayle McCord. Cool and

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Speaker 1: It's not my favorite draft we've done, but it's it

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Speaker 1: And it was interesting just knowing, Wow, they signed two

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Speaker 1: No, you're rolling around the fourth round, it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure about somebody throws a football problem, right, maybe two.

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Speaker 3: Of them, maybe two, Yeah, but let's get through a break.

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Speaker 3: we're out there. And uh, you know it's all happening

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that type of thing,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And we're seeing the teams and again, these aren't

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Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, but like Kevin Zeitler just got

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Speaker 1: signed by the Titans. He's an NFL guard that's been

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Speaker 1: around the block a thousand times. He ain't what he

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Dan Moore, you know what I mean, Dan Moore?

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Speaker 1: Now they have five offensive linemen. They had three last year.

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Speaker 1: I know, and this isn't Titans Nation Radio or anything

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Speaker 1: like that, but you used first round picks on two

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Speaker 1: we're up to three. I mean, their O line was

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Speaker 1: in that bad of shape. You give more, maybe more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not cheap. No, it's not cheap, right,

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Speaker 3: which is what the Steelers have in their offensive line. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 3: That's one of the things that bothers me.

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Speaker 1: Like I had a lot of conversations like Donald, Well,

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Speaker 1: those things might be true. Those things are great in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: The line here is so much worse.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not Christian Darrissa I missed like the whole year.

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Speaker 1: He's by far their best tackle, and the interior of

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Speaker 1: to prove it, you know, like it's always the line's fault.

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Speaker 1: You know, which wolf was sitting there and be like, no, kidding, brother,

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Speaker 1: Like they never get the credit they deserve, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not a bad line. No, And early in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, four different guys made their first career start in

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Speaker 1: I also think the youth catches up to you. The

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about think about what the Eagles did

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Speaker 1: No, they held up fine, right right. No, I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are allowed to get better, as I always say,

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Speaker 1: Roderick Jones say, damn more, can you play one position?

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Speaker 3: So they were supposed to apparently just plug plug Roderick

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Speaker 3: The Titans would disagree because they just gave him twenty

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Speaker 3: It's not it's not necessarily something that never happens, Asa Starks.

431
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: You know, guys flip back and forth all the time.

432
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: Now, Anthony Munoz at left tackle, no one messages with

433
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: nobody's nobody says it word right.

434
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: The plan was for Filetano to line up at right tackle,

435
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 3: which they did the first few weeks of camp and

436
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: Brodick Jones there. They were going to compete there and

437
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,479
Speaker 3: then have Broddick Jones shift over to left tackle and

438
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: compete with Dan Moore over there, just to see what

439
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 3: it looks like. Who's the better tackle, what's the best

440
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: line we can put out there?

441
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: Can you trust the rookie at right tackle? You know

442
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: one thing I think that's hampered the line. And again

443
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: we talked about this with Labs. Good for more to

444
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: go get all the money he did and he was

445
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: a quality left tackle in the league. Just reflected that.

446
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think that would have happened to Jones

447
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: as much if Moore could also flip, you know what

448
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean.

449
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: The fact that he had only play one the same

450
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: the same thing happened to him his rookie year right

451
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: and he showed he couldn't flip. Well, he never got

452
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: a chance.

453
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: He never a chance.

454
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: He never got the chance. He was supposed to be

455
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: the swing tackle. Zach Banner was supposed to be on

456
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: the right and chokes of corps for was the guy

457
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: who was supposed to flip over to the to the

458
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: left side. Ye Zach Banner was never healthy that camp,

459
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: so Dan Moore worked exclusively at left tackle, and they said, Okay,

460
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 3: we're gonna leave you there. Well, then the next year

461
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: you come back, he's your left tackle tackle right, And

462
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 3: the year after that he's your left tackle.

463
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: Ye.

464
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: So maybe it is a little late. But if Jones

465
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: can be left from now until the day he retires,

466
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: if Aton who can be right until now to the

467
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: daystic great.

468
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 3: And now there athletic profiles fit to that. That doesn't

469
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: mean that, you know, by the end of training camp

470
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: they haven't decided, Hey, we're gonna move Filetano to the

471
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: left side and Broderick Jones has got to play on

472
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: the right. It still could happen. It could happen.

473
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: Jones could be like, I got really used to the right.

474
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: Who knows, Yeah, you know, And both are left tackles

475
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: in college.

476
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: Right, which is not uncommon. It ninety percent of the

477
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 3: right tackles out there in the league right now played

478
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: left tackle in college, right because they were the best

479
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: dude on their team. The right tackles in college go

480
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: to guard, yeah, exactly, you know, like on the offensive

481
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: line all the.

482
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: Time, and all the first round picks last year.

483
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: Mason McCormick just got a eight hundred and nineteen thousand

484
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: dollars uh check this week from the NFL based on

485
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: his performance based the performance base pay.

486
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that's another weird thing that yeah,

487
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't fully understand.

488
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: But okay, and this playtime there's you know, all that

489
00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: kind of stuff is involved in.

490
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: That be nice thing to show be your house when

491
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: you all right.

492
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 3: Christmas and you know, right anyway, So but the the

493
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: idea you know that somehow Pat Meyer did a bad

494
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: job last year. There weren't a million options. There weren't

495
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: like you were for a while there you're piecing it together,

496
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: you were.

497
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: You know more, can only play left and the first

498
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: round picks hurt and then herbig's git hurt. How do

499
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: I put my best five out there?

500
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

501
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: Sorry, Broderick, but you know, I mean, like, what do

502
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: you do?

503
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: People? Doesn't mean Dylan Cook should be you right tackle? Right?

504
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: Like that was the thing that I said to the guy.

505
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 3: He said, well, Broderi Jones should have been playing left

506
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: tackle from the beginning. I said, Okay, then who's your

507
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 3: right tackle? Yeah? Right, because you don't have one, you

508
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 3: gonna put your best five athletes out there, they said,

509
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: they said two years ago, Mike Thomas said, no, Dan

510
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: Moore's we tried him, and they did. They he moved

511
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: over to right tackle. Some didn't really work last two

512
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: years ago in training camp and they said, oh no,

513
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: that's he's much better on the left side.

514
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was to the O line experts,

515
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: nay work, Yeah, he's a left I only. Yeah, And

516
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: that hurt him a little but didn't hurt him, but

517
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: it hurt others right in a ripple kind of.

518
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: But the idea is to go out and line up,

519
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: put your best five on the field wherever they are.

520
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: When they started the twenty twenty three season, that yeah,

521
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three season, Broderick Jones wasn't one of their

522
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 3: best five, right right right. They then decided midway through

523
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 3: the season, we got to get this guy on the

524
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 3: field somewhere, and we're replacing Chukes. And this is an

525
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: extreme example and dates my NBA.

526
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: Knowledge, But it's not like we got David Robinson and

527
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: Duncan and they're both centers.

528
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: Wow, somebody's playing power forward.

529
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: Right, You're both gonna be out there, guys. You know,

530
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: even if we have a power four is okay.

531
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: That might mean you have to day a little, right,

532
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 3: but it is what it is.

533
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: We're not gonna ask him play point, but right exactly,

534
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: you gotta get your bads out there, you.

535
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: Know, so you you adjust. And the idea that somehow

536
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: the coaching staff failed Jones. No one says it's gonna

537
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: be easy. Nobody's it's professional football, right right, and you're

538
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: talking about a guy, well, he played he played left

539
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: tackle exclusively in college. Yeah, for like nineteen games. In

540
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: nineteen games. It's not like he's you know, I'm sure

541
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: every one of those guys was the left tackles on

542
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: their high school team.

543
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: And come Week ten in twenty twenty five season, there's

544
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna be someone on this football team doing something that

545
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: they're not the best at, you know, like, hey, we

546
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: need you to play slot corner.

547
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: We don't have any.

548
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: We need you to play third down linebacker even though

549
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: you're a thumper, we don't got any you know what

550
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean like that, But the attrition sets in.

551
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: To kill Pat Meyer because Broderick Jones has not achieved

552
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: to the level that you think he should achieve to.

553
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: While overlooking Zach Frazier being your starting center all year

554
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: as McCormick four guys playing their first snaps for Foutano

555
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: was ready to play. Iressive and is arguably their best

556
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: offensive lineman in camp last year. Maybe it's a Broderick

557
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: Jones problem. Maybe it's not the Pat Meyer problem. Maybe

558
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: it was Brodrick Jones. Yeah.

559
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to be more serious about this,

560
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: no question, and his story is far from written. Well, No,

561
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm not trashing Roderick Jones at all. I think he's

562
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: got a world of talent. He just needs to put

563
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: it all together. But on him, Like, if you could

564
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: pick any Steeler to be your most improved steeler this year,

565
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: if it's him, great, look out fantasm like all of

566
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: a sudden, then you have like a top ten line.

567
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and he could. He could because he

568
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 3: certainly has the talent to do that. And you know,

569
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: it's again the idea that that you know, they failed

570
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: him and because he hasn't developed, he was a developmental

571
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: pick when they took him.

572
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: I also think he has developed, Like he's had some

573
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: bad moments, don't get me read sure.

574
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you play enough snaps in the NFL, you're

575
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: going to have some bad moments, but his.

576
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: Best football was post by last year, even in the

577
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: bad stretch run. Yeah, so it's the most recent and stuff.

578
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: What happens on that I don't want to hear that

579
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: Rousseau beat him in the preseason twice, like it's that

580
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: all the time.

581
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: The Oregon offensive tackle this year left Halt Connorlly Connory

582
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: had one rep at the Senior Bowl where Mike Green

583
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: ran him over, destroyed him. Right. Remember he was the

584
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: m v P, the offensive line m v P for

585
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: his squad. It's a senior Bowl, but he had to practice.

586
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: All anybody has seen is that one bad rep that

587
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: he had where he got he got off balance a

588
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: little bit and got and got put on his back.

589
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: And no one would argue if I put Rodert Jones's

590
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: fifteen low light snaps together, it's not pretty. No it's not,

591
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: and nobody would think it is. But that story's not

592
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: written either, not.

593
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: Even close.

594
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: The brutal thing and it's just in this league is

595
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: soon you got to think about the fifth year option already.

596
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: Right now, it seems like a guy that got here

597
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: and by a lot of stretch. He's still very raw.

598
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: But at this time next.

599
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: Year you're gonna have to go. You're gonna know, you

600
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: you're gonna know.

601
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully he doesn't get hurt or you don't get an

602
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: incomplete grade, but you're gonna have to pick up a

603
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: fifth year option or not a year from now. Yeah,

604
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: it's a brutal league. It's gonna be pricey. But yeah,

605
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: he'll know. Yeah, you'll know. I don't know if they

606
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: will or not.

607
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: I mean they should well, no, I don't know if

608
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: they'll pick it up. All they'll know one way or

609
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: the other, whether whether he can play or not. Yeah,

610
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: and whether it's you know, if he doesn't play because

611
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: of injury then you know, or something like that, or

612
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: he you know, he falls flat on his face at

613
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: left tackle, so be it. So be it right, you know,

614
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: but you're gonna a put your best five out there,

615
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: but be you know, it's on the player to improve.

616
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: And he's still he's younger than Mason McCormick. Yeah, oh right.

617
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: But the original point, it's hard to blame Pat Meyer,

618
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: the offense coordinator, the head coach, the organ day.

619
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: He's had success with other other guys have had success. Yeah,

620
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: other guys have improved.

621
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: I mean, my point is the way he laid it out, like, well,

622
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: who do you want to play it?

623
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: Right? Tackle?

624
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: There's that Yeah, I mean, like we got to put

625
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: five guys that have to block the Ravens this week.

626
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: He's one of our five. Yeah, maybe he decided, right, Chucks,

627
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: what couldn't be that guy anymore?

628
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: No, who just signed somewhere a minute ago to Jets

629
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: Jets Okay, yeah, yeah, probably is a swing guy.

630
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so you know it's it's.

631
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: They've come a long way from alas chuckled when he

632
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: said it, Well, they Chucks and banners are starters, right right, you.

633
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: Know, I mean they've come a long way. With Kendrick Green,

634
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: it said, I mean that whole line is gone, is gone.

635
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: It's ill needed to be. That was just that was

636
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one. It wasn't long. They've swept that gone.

637
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: They're all gone, right right, They're done and not exactly

638
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: going crazy in the rest of the league.

639
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: I wish more all the luck in the world is

640
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: his argument. Well, they played Kevin Dotson in the wrong

641
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: spot as well. Okay, the same Kevin Dotson who blew

642
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: the game for the Rams. Kevin Dotson has been fine

643
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: in LA. I'm not saying as success. Yeah, since he

644
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: left you, but when it came down to it, rams

645
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: are driving.

646
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: And I also don't want to hear that you played

647
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: him at left guard instead of right guard. I mean,

648
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: it's not exactly the same thing. This is not rocket science.

649
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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean, I know guards prefer

650
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Speaker 1: each side or the other, but it's not the same

651
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Speaker 1: as tackles. And even so, he was hard to count

652
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Speaker 1: on here. Yeah, I mean, this wasn't reliable.

653
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Speaker 3: I think the trade, actually him getting moved probably did

654
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: him world of good, probably lit a fire under him

655
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Speaker 3: a little bit. I think it lit a fire what

656
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: happened with Kendrick Green. I think little fire under Kendrick Green.

657
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: Because I think, but they're not missing Kendrick Green. Those

658
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: guys came in here and we're immediate starters, and we're

659
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: immediately the best five guys on on the because the

660
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: Steelers had nothing.

661
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: At that point, right, But they wouldn't be now, and

662
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: I think those guys in this class, they'd be sitting waiting,

663
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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: And I think they those guys needed to kick in

665
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Speaker 3: the pants that they got by getting all this team's

666
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: done with me? What's that mean? Wait a second, I

667
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: was a starter.

668
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Speaker 1: NFL is easy. I'm a third or fourth round pick

669
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Speaker 1: and I get to be a starter right away.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes times that happens. You know, Oh, this is easy

671
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Speaker 3: for me. I walked right in here. I'm a starter.

672
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Speaker 1: And that might be where Jones is at in his

673
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Speaker 1: career where I might not have to work and time

674
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Speaker 1: for you well, looking to me or if I'm going

675
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Speaker 1: to be the player I can be. This is a

676
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: crucial off season, you know, start kick sliding on from

677
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Speaker 1: the left and all that good stuff.

678
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Speaker 3: You know, absolutely, and so you know, sometimes it does

679
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: need to be that change of scenery. And yeah, you know,

680
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: same thing. I hope, I hope things work out for

681
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Speaker 3: Nausea Harris with with the Chargers. Yeah, I think it's

682
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Speaker 3: you know, it's a good fit. It's a good fit

683
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: for him. Doesn't mean he was you know again, I

684
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: saw the thing today. Steelers haven't picked up the fifty

685
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: year option on their last five on their last five

686
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: first round draft picks or whatever it is, and Najia

687
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: Harris only got a one year deal, So that means,

688
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: you know, nobody wanted them in the league. No, you

689
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: got to look around the rest of the league too.

690
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: It was bad here. There's not a single running back

691
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Speaker 3: yet in this free agent period who has gotten a

692
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: multi year deal. And he got the most money of

693
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Speaker 3: any of those guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Aaron Jones going back,

695
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: but he was the other signed with his own team,

696
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: and right, I think it's.

697
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Speaker 3: Almost like two years, fifteen million or something. Yeah, he

698
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Speaker 3: may not. Those guys aren't getting big money deals.

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Speaker 1: This particular year their offseason, right because in frankly, I

700
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: bet the Chargers draft one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the drafts are they littered with these guys?

702
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

703
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that they might just have less yeah, right, so yeah,

704
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: you're not. But he got a good deal.

705
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Speaker 1: And it's nothing like I thought he was going to get,

706
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Speaker 1: you know, like I thought he'd get like a remote

707
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: not six months ago. I thought he'd get like the

708
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 1: Ramandre Stevenson two year, twenty million type teams.

709
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: I mean he got up to nine point twenty five.

710
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, incentive stuff, right, Yeah, So he did get a

711
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: good deal, right, but on a buyer's market.

712
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: For right, I think if you asked the Patriots, now, no,

713
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 3: it doesn't look like a great deal for them. Hey,

714
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 3: do you do you regret that that deal absolutely, yeah. Yeah,

715
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: which they've done nothing with their offense, not a damn thing.

716
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Speaker 1: No, Morgan Moses, that's about it. I'm sure it'll be

717
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: a massive offensive draft. But Rabel's a defensive guy. But man,

718
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: you gotta do a little more for your quarterback. Yeah,

719
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Speaker 1: maybe added to Marty Cooper, Diggs or somebody that's been

720
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 1: on the block, I guess, I mean, but man, it's

721
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: a little light.

722
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Speaker 3: But it's just, uh, you know, the perception versus the

723
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: reality of some of these moves and why this is that,

724
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Speaker 3: and that is this, and they're playing that guy at

725
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: a position like that's somebody. Nobody ever said a word

726
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: about the Steelers playing Chad Brown out of position. When

727
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: they moved him an outside linebacker to inside linebackers, they

728
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: could get him on the field.

729
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: Get him on the field because he was too good

730
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: to sit behind the studs ahead of him.

731
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Speaker 3: Right when they put when they put her big out

732
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Speaker 3: on the field in their three outside linebacker package and

733
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Speaker 3: have him playing kind of off the ball, nobody says

734
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Speaker 3: a word about that. They're not doing.

735
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: They're doing how they're smart to get their eleven out there, right, But.

736
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Speaker 3: When they when when they do it like that, exactly.

737
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: They're smart to get their best ive or for best

738
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: eleven out there, but when they move an offensive lineman, suddenly,

739
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: oh my god, this has never been done before. See.

740
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Speaker 1: I hope that's why people listen to the show or

741
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: watch the show or whatever too, because you're really good

742
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: at remembering and laying it out. This is what they

743
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: were thinking at the times. Zach Banner was their right tackle.

744
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: Wasn't the ideal situation, but that's where they were then.

745
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: And this is why this guy got thrust into this situation.

746
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: It's not just I don't know.

747
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Speaker 3: What he is, a left truck or right. People say

748
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: Kendrick Green got handed to starting job that year. All

749
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Speaker 3: the other every other just got hurt. Every other center

750
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: on the roster got hurt, everybody else that they had,

751
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: and he ended up taking all the snaps of training

752
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: camp because everybody else was hurt. They had other plans.

753
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 3: They wanted bj Finny to win the job. They didn't

754
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Speaker 3: want to start with Kendrick Green at center.

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Speaker 1: It was a third round rookie. I mean, that's a

756
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: hard thing to ask.

757
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: And if you remember the finn was a it's fine.

758
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: It was a good offensive.

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00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean he was one of the thirty two best

760
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Speaker 1: centers in the world, developed a back issue, like what

761
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: do you want? Yeah, yeah, so I urge people like

762
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: the listener shows in camp because well, they got to

763
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: move this guy to right tackle just to get through

764
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: practice today. You know, like some guys get hurt or

765
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Speaker 1: they take the day off or you know whatever.

766
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Speaker 3: Spencer Anderson. We rigged about Spencer Anderson a couple of

767
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: years ago at training camp because he played all five

768
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: positions on everything right and it was okay at all,

769
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: and would do it from play to play, like, not

770
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: practice to practice, not even series a series. It was

771
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 3: always like, where's Waldo at on this play?

772
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, here comes the tackle off the sideline, But Anderson

773
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: didn't go out.

774
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: He just moved to guard.

775
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, not fair to him, nor the only

776
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: reason he's sill in the league. You know that keeps

777
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: you in the league doing that kind of You can

778
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: move positions absolutely, you know, it's just you got a

779
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: field to eleven every snap.

780
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 3: Every snap, and you want it to be your best

781
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: eleven and you only got fifty three on the team.

782
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and corners can't play center. Last time check, that's

783
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: probably the case. Yeah, it's much more of a puzzle

784
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: than people realize. Yeah, Like I urge people listening to

785
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: like yesterday show the Malie Harrison conversation. Okay, that's fine,

786
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: And if you like Robert's better than Harrison, you're you're

787
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: fine to think that way, and you're not wrong. But

788
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: Harrison kills two birds, right, you know, he can plan

789
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: the outside. He could also play inside on and off

790
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: the Resigns plane or about Kavis the thing. Yeah, but

791
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Harrison plays kills two birds the inside linebacker. And he's

792
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: a good special teams player, that's the thing, right. Yeah,

793
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: sounds like Ecles a really good special teams player too,

794
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: the more I've been digging in it.

795
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean that that matters. That definitely matters.

796
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: But talking about depth pieces, that's two to three hundred

797
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: snaps a year.

798
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and if you don't play good special teams, two

799
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: thousand and nine happens all over again. Nobody wants to

800
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: see that. No, Right, anyways, let's get to another break.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. This

802
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Speaker 3: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

803
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Speaker 3: Audio Network. Matt and I will be back with more

804
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Speaker 3: right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

807
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Man, I just want to go through

810
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 3: some names here for you, Okay, Cliff Stout, Mark Malone, Yeah,

811
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Speaker 3: David Woodley, Scott Campbell, Bobby Brister, Steve Bono, Todd Blackledge, Nei, O'Donnell,

812
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: Mike tom Zach, Jim Miller, Cordell Stewart, Kent Graham, Tommy Maddox.

813
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: We're we're going well over a decade's worth here. Those

814
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: are the quarterbacks who started games for the Steelers. That

815
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 3: doesn't even count Cliffs out in nineteen eighty three because

816
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: Bradshaw started a game that year before you go.

817
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Speaker 1: He started one one game in his final season. So

818
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Speaker 1: that's bradshawt of Ben.

819
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: That's bradshawt of Ben.

820
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: Hopefully that's not Ben to right, next guy.

821
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Speaker 3: So when people the Steelers, they seem like they're really

822
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: desperate right now to a quarterback. No, that's desperation.

823
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just cool. How many years was Neil good.

824
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Speaker 3: Two? I'm like he was the best.

825
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: Of the groove, define good. I mean, I didn't do

826
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Speaker 1: this for a living.

827
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Speaker 3: Then ninety five was really the only year that they

828
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Speaker 3: had an actual passing game in that stretch.

829
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember them going four wide and I think

830
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: he went to a Pro Bowl that year.

831
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they was They said team passing records and Jets

832
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: gave him a ton of money and which was a mistake,

833
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: which was a huge mistake.

834
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Speaker 1: Cordell's the other one that maybe could have been something

835
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Speaker 1: or he was born too early.

836
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Speaker 3: If today's game, he'd be great. Yeah, yeah, because you

837
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: know what to do with them, but they didn't know

838
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: what to do with them at that time.

839
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Speaker 1: But I say, no one else on that list was

840
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: an above average starter.

841
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, these were guys Tom Zach, a lot of black Ledge,

842
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: Ram Campbell, Woodley Graham. These are guys who were all

843
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: retreads from other teams. They drafted Cliff Stout, they drafted

844
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Speaker 3: Mark Malone with Bradshaw's demise, and you know, they drafted

845
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: Bubby Brister. Malone was the first. They drafted O'Donnell, they

846
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 3: drafted Stewart, they drafted Jim Miller, they tried. None of

847
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 3: those guys were first the well, actually Malone was Malone

848
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: was right, but they tried first round draft picks there.

849
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: It just didn't work out, which is a.

850
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Speaker 1: J Dillon signed with the Eagles. I didn't think he'd

851
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: ever read football, but that's yeah.

852
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: That's the reality of the situation. Well, the Steelers are

853
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: now the Browns because they're desperate quarterback. Every team that

854
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: doesn't have there's a franchise type quarterback is desperate at quarterback.

855
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean, you just gotta you gotta got

856
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: over look under every stone. And I do think there's

857
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: value in And we've talked about this a lot, and

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00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: I think you agree when in doubt Draft one that year,

859
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you might find a Dak Prescott.

860
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: You might find even if it's a Mason Rudolph. I mean,

861
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: it's that's what they were hoping. Like Bubby Brister, they thought, yeah, yeah,

862
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: maybe that Neil o' donald had a.

863
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Speaker 3: Lot of tools.

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Speaker 1: I remember Bubby being big, strong and you know, a

865
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Speaker 1: lot of tools. And he started, you know, I mean,

866
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: it wasn't like as a wasted pick, but he didn't

867
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: hit you know, I don't know. That year is hard

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Speaker 1: for me to comment on. I was just purely a

869
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Speaker 1: fan at that point and probably didn't realize how bad

870
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Speaker 1: things were year after year. And I didn't also have

871
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: as good a grasp of the league. It doesn't seem

872
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: like there was as many top flight quarterbacks then as now.

873
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: Didn't move around.

874
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: There was no free agency, ben right, right, I mean

875
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: Dan Fouts was charger.

876
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Speaker 3: You didn't have agency until ninety three, so you were

877
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Speaker 3: trading for these guys where they had been released by

878
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Speaker 3: somebody else.

879
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: Or like you know, Scott Mitchell had like two good

880
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: games as Marino's backup, so the Lions go give them

881
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: huge money. You any way, you could like get a

882
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: hold of these guys, yeah, or draft them, And a lot

883
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: of those guys didn't draft them develop particularly well either

884
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: at that point.

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00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's just where you're at.

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Speaker 1: And I'll think Russell Wilson over those names, and yeah

887
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: right yeah, I'll think Fields over those names for the

888
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Speaker 1: most part.

889
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Speaker 3: You know, you know, yeah, it is what it is like,

890
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: This is where you're at until you until you're able

891
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: to find the next one. Yeah. Yeah, And you don't

892
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: have to be in the top ten to get the

893
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 3: next one. No, but you don't stop trying. You don't

894
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: stop trying. You keep drafting these guys. I mean, Aaron

895
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: Rodgers was the twenty fourth pick in the draft, Russell

896
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: Wilson was a third round draft pick. Mahomes was the

897
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Speaker 3: what eleventh pick in his draft? Yeah, Lamar was thirty

898
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: one or what? Yeah? Right right? You just have to

899
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: find the right guy, which is easier said than that. Yeah,

900
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: but but just because you're one of these teams, there

901
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 3: are twenty teams out there searching for that guy.

902
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: Even worse as though, like you're the Bears and you

903
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: use early early picks time and time or the Brown

904
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: over and over right, over and over.

905
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 3: And that's where I don't get the comparison to Cleveland.

906
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: Cleveland has spent so many first round pack, first round

907
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: picks after first round pick after first round pick on

908
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: the quarterback position, including Watson, who was trading about. Now.

909
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: If you want to compare what the Steelers are doing

910
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: right now to the Indianapolis Colts, I'll listen. You know

911
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: you're you're bringing in retread, retread, reachard and two.

912
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, get the opportunity to say there's no Richards in parallel.

913
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Speaker 1: Go get your guys, I see what you're talking about,

914
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: which they took there. They did it for several years

915
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: and then took their swing to get Richardson. But they're

916
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: not the swing right, right, right, right, what I'm saying, right, Yeah,

917
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: But they didn't have a lot of options. I mean luck,

918
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't stress how bad that would be

919
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: as a GM for luck to quit on you.

920
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 3: It's like this time of year, it's really bad luck.

921
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: It's really bad luck. But maybe you should treat him

922
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: better too. Yeah, sometimes luck is earned. And then you're

923
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: in the Matt Ryan Rivers Wentz and trading for Wentz.

924
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: You gave up stuff for Wentz, those other guys.

925
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: That you gave up a first round pick to go

926
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: get wins.

927
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

928
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: I think it was two two's or a first or

929
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: something like that. It was like a big deal. That's

930
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: bad business.

931
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: That's bad business, right, And the Eagles are like, we'll

932
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: go with Hurts. You took them off our hands, right,

933
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: and you know that's that's nice.

934
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: The Steelers haven't done that, but they're I don't want

935
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Speaker 3: to say they're treading water because they're trying to win,

936
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: of course, which is what you should be trying to

937
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: do with with the rest of your roster. The way

938
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: it is, but you're also sort of surviving, right, you know,

939
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 3: because you don't have that guy right, right.

940
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: Right, So you got to do things a little different.

941
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: And I know people are hard on Tomlin. He's so conservative.

942
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: He handcuffs these guys. Yeah, but it ends up with

943
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: the w at the end of the Sunday.

944
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Speaker 3: They didn't handcuff Ben No, right, right, right?

945
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 1: I mean, And again, boy, they run the ball so much.

946
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they would if they had Marino

947
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: throwing the you know, Moss and Larry Fitzgerald, they probably wouldn't.

948
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: Now it depends what guys you got. Yeah, right, so

949
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: it's you play Higgins a Metcalf on the outside. You

950
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: might push the ball on the field more.

951
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: When I when I tweeted out the thing the other

952
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: day about the Steelers players being attractive in free agency

953
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 3: thus far, and we've seen Van Jefferson signed today, we've

954
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: seen who else signed it, somebody else signed today. Anyways,

955
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: they've had a bunch of their guys sign. Oh Ogunjobi

956
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: signed with the Bills. Well it must be you know what,

957
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: what could what could possibly be holding these guys back?

958
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: Must be the coaching. Huh. No, they don't have a quarterback.

959
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: It's kind of a big deal.

960
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's such a quarterback driven league and people

961
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Speaker 1: forget that.

962
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: And I mean, look at the look at the number

963
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 3: of playoff games won by guys in this franchise history

964
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Speaker 3: not named Terry Bradshaw and Ben Roethlisberger.

965
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Speaker 1: Oh, I bet that's a very low number.

966
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, o'donald had one year where he got them

967
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Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. Other than that, it's a lot

968
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 3: of more reloaded roster. Yeah with one win, one win,

969
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: one win, no wins, Like this is the way the

970
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: league is.

971
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Speaker 1: It is, I mean how many there's not rarely do

972
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Speaker 1: you see the Brad Johnson guy anymore? That defense, and

973
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: he just managed the dil Firs, you know, Like, I

974
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Speaker 1: don't know if you'll ever see those anymore.

975
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Speaker 3: It's awfully difficult, right.

976
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying Hurts is to the Mahomes level,

977
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Speaker 1: but he's got a lot of playmakeability compared to Brad Johnson,

978
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah and Fred Dilbert, you know what I mean.

979
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Speaker 3: It's also got a much better team around. Those guys

980
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: had the team. They had the team, right, which is

981
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: what the Steelers are trying to build.

982
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Speaker 1: They're trying to build the team because you don't have

983
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: the quarterback, right, but.

984
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: Can they get better quarterback play than they got last year?

985
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: That's what they're trying to figure out.

986
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Speaker 1: What they're trying to figure out here in the next

987
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Speaker 1: till we meet again, you know, we meet again lay

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Speaker 1: By tomorrow that day here when the Drive hung it up.

989
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but anyways, let's get that's going to

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Speaker 3: do it for today's show. Uh So for my partner

991
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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site running the

992
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Speaker 3: Justin Miller hotline and getting us Bob Larbriola on the

993
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: Justin Miller hot line, and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure

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Speaker 3: the video gets out there onto YouTube. I'm Dale Lollie.

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