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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is a verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 2: with you. And the big breaking news is obviously about

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Speaker 2: the indictment obsession over Hunter Biden. Now, Senator this one

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Speaker 2: actually makes me angry. You've talked about this and really

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Speaker 2: predicted it on this show long time ago that the

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Speaker 2: whole reason why they were doing that plea agreement on

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Speaker 2: the gun crime is that insulated the president. And it

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Speaker 2: was the perfect crime to charge Hunter Biden with in

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Speaker 2: that sweetheart plea deal because it insulated and you couldn't

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Speaker 2: connect any dots to the presidency or the Biden crime

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Speaker 2: family with all the money going in and out of

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Speaker 2: accounts and the suspicious active reports. Sure enough, the same

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Speaker 2: guy that gave him the sweetheart deal, who's now the

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Speaker 2: special prosecutor who's indicting him, is going after the first thing,

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Speaker 2: the gun crime. I mean, you can't write the script

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Speaker 2: any more ridiculous than this, and yet here we are

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Speaker 2: well badly.

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Speaker 1: That is correct.

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Speaker 3: The Special Council, David Weiss, We've talked about that when

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Speaker 3: Merrick Garland appointed him. It was illegal under the DOJ rules,

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Speaker 3: a special council has to be outside the DOJ. But

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Speaker 3: the reason that I believe that David Weiss was appointed

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Speaker 3: Special counsel is because he had already demonstrated he would

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Speaker 3: give a sweetheart deal to Hunter Biden. He'd already demonstrated

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Speaker 3: that he was willing to be complicit in the obstruction

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Speaker 3: of justice at DOJ to number one, prevent investigation into

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Speaker 3: the more serious crimes from Hunter Biden, and more importantly,

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Speaker 3: to block any investigation into the big guy, into Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: and that that is the most important objective in the

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Speaker 3: heavily politicized Biden DOJ. Now, on Wednesday, David Weiss, the

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Speaker 3: Special Council, filed a pleading in the United States District

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Speaker 3: Court for the District of Delaware, stating that he intends

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Speaker 3: to indict Hunter Biden. But what he intends to indict

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden out is a gun crime. Now, at this point,

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Speaker 3: as we're discussing it, we don't know the details of

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Speaker 3: exactly what that indictment will hold. But what we know

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Speaker 3: is the gun crime is a crime that is uniquely

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Speaker 3: limited to Hunter. There's no connection to Joe. There's no

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Speaker 3: connection to Joe's corruption, there's no connection to bribery from Joe,

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Speaker 3: there's no correction, connection to Ukrainian oligarchs paying Hunter for

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Speaker 3: access to Joe. There's no connection to Ukrainian oligarchs or

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Speaker 3: Russian oligarchs or Chinese communist officials paying Hunter for specific

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Speaker 3: official favors from Joe Biden. Instead, the gun crime is

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Speaker 3: a personal crime, and the talking point of the Democrats,

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Speaker 3: the talking point of the media is listen, Hunter Boyd

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Speaker 3: Biden is a troubled soul with substance abuse problems and

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Speaker 3: and and he's struggling. I got to say, looking at this,

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Speaker 3: the gun crime is not the reason the public cares

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Speaker 3: about Hunter Biden. The reason this is a matter of

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Speaker 3: public concern is the official corruption of the then vice

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Speaker 3: president of the United States and today the President of

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Speaker 3: the United States and trying to trumpet look how tough

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Speaker 3: we are. We're going against Hunter for the gun crime,

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Speaker 3: especially given that David Weiss already negotiated the sweetheart deal.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, his initial proposal is Hunter Biden

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Speaker 3: doesn't plead guilty to anything of significance. His second proposal

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Speaker 3: was Hunter Biden pleads guilty to criminal offenses, but serves

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Speaker 3: not a day in jail. So this third iteration, I

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Speaker 3: don't know maybe it has some mild jail time, but

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Speaker 3: it is designed consistent with the pattern to protect Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: and that is the overarching objective, I believe of the

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Speaker 3: incredibly politicized Biden DOJ.

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Speaker 2: You look at the DOJ and we've also mentioned in

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Speaker 2: this before, but I want to take a moment to

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Speaker 2: remind people if you're a lawyer, and put your lawyer

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Speaker 2: If you're sitting in a room and you see all

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Speaker 2: of the all these crimes that they could investigate, and

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Speaker 2: you see all the the things that could tie you

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Speaker 2: to the White House, could tie you to the Presidency,

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Speaker 2: could tie you to two different whistle blowers, the I

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Speaker 2: you said, okay, we got to give them something, so

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Speaker 2: you pick. If you're again, I'm saying this from like

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Speaker 2: the standpoint of a Hunter Biden lawyer. You know, we

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Speaker 2: as well? Because it has none of those things that

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Speaker 3: Sure, it is uniquely focused on Hunter personally, there's no

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Speaker 3: arguable connection with Joe Biden. It insulates Joe Biden. So,

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Speaker 3: for example, there's no indictment. There appears to be no

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Speaker 3: even meaningful investigation over Hunter Biden's text message on the

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Speaker 3: on the WhatsApp app to a senior Chinese Communist official,

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Speaker 3: where he says, quote, I am sitting here with my

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Speaker 3: that between the man sitting next to me, in other words,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden and every person he knows, and my ability

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Speaker 3: to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret not

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Speaker 3: following my direction. I am sitting here waiting for the

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Speaker 3: call with my father. Now that is direct evidence of

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Speaker 3: sitting vice president of the United States. If they brought

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Speaker 3: an indictment for that, that would be a serious legal, political,

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Speaker 3: and even existential peril for Joe Biden. So, of course,

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Speaker 3: David Weiss, operating as the political protector in the Biden

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Speaker 3: going to bring a gun crime, which is specific to Hunter.

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Speaker 3: And remember the question to ask in each of these

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Speaker 2: mentioned that weiss filed this paperwork, and that's when everybody,

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Speaker 2: of course lost their mind. Oh, finally, Hunter Biden's going

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Speaker 2: to get indicted. I rolled my eyes at it. You

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Speaker 2: basically did as well. What does this say moving forward?

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Speaker 2: And is there any hope that he might actually charge

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Speaker 2: Hunter with other crimes or if this is what he's

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Speaker 2: leading with, is this kind of probably going to be

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Speaker 1: Him in all likelihood?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Look, we've covered it in this podcast. How initially

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Speaker 3: David Weiss and the Biden Department of Justice wanted to

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Speaker 3: guilty to any serious crimes, where he gets off scot

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Speaker 3: S whistleblowers came forward. They realized, oh crap, we can't

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Speaker 3: be that transparently political. So they reached agreement number two,

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Speaker 3: the sweetheart agreement, where Hunter would plead guilty to a

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Speaker 3: and all conduct. That includes corruption and bribery concerning Barisma

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Speaker 3: serious charges, and the Biden Department of Justice entered a

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Speaker 3: on everything. Well, what happened is they filed that sweetheart deal.

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Speaker 3: But then the irs whistleblowers went and testified before the

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Speaker 3: that implicates the President of the United States. And I

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Speaker 3: think what happened is the Biden DOJ realized this slap

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Speaker 3: there a chance you might still indict Hunter for something else?

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Speaker 3: They were forced to say yes, not in fact, because

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Speaker 3: they were investigating Hunter. I don't believe they are investigating Hunter.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe they want to know what else Hunter did. Instead,

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Speaker 3: I think they said yes because given the hearings and

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Speaker 3: for bribes. That was untenable. That was the sweetheart plea

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Speaker 3: But this critical question, and we've discussed this for months

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Speaker 3: involves purely personal conduct by Hunter, if it involves drug possession,

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Speaker 3: if it involves the gun crime, if it involves things

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Speaker 3: it is a political smokescreen. Because the reason you've got

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Speaker 3: this fact pattern seriously implicates official corruption by the President

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be bamboozled over this, And that's the main

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Speaker 2: not celebrate this. And I promise you that media is

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Speaker 1: This is shock.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he's been indicted and they're hoping that

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Speaker 2: will suffice and they can say, see you held accountable.

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Speaker 1: That's the that's the game.

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Speaker 3: Pling And by the way, by the way, remember this

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Speaker 3: is also designed for parody. See we indicted to Biden.

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Speaker 3: Now we can indict Trump four times and go after

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Speaker 3: him and try to ban him from the ballot and

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Speaker 3: in the presidential elections because we indicted Hunter for a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, be ready for this because it's going

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Speaker 2: they do it, but this is how they're going to

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's especially this close to nine to eleven,

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Speaker 1: The author's analyze.

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Speaker 2: They say, one hundred and eighty studies on climate change

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Speaker 2: immortality covering on a one thousand ton rules. So this

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Speaker 2: is a new theory which means for every thousand tons

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Speaker 2: of fossil fuels burn, a person dies. Now this article

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Speaker 2: is published and it contends that a future person, a

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Speaker 2: future person is killed every time humanity burns to a

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Speaker 2: thousand tons of fossil carbon. They say, based on that

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Speaker 2: calculation that burning a trillion tons of fossil carbon will

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Speaker 2: cause two degrees celsius of global warming are ag W,

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Speaker 2: which in turn they say will cause roughly a billion

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Speaker 2: future premature death spread over a period of very roughly

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Speaker 2: one cent I wish they use this type of logic

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Speaker 2: when they were talking about unborn children that are killed,

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Speaker 2: but of course they'll never do that. But this might

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Speaker 2: be the most ridiculous, fear mongering article, and they say

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Speaker 2: it's a scientific consensus.

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Speaker 3: Now, well, look, there is an enormous problem with the

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Speaker 3: politicization of science, and particularly what it concerns climate change,

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Speaker 3: the dishonesty of science. I'm going to make a radical

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Speaker 3: claim right now. I predict with absolute certainty that seven

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Speaker 3: billion people alive today will die in the next hundred

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Speaker 3: years of climate change. Now, mind you, there are a

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Speaker 3: little over seven billion people alive today, and it is

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Speaker 3: a virtual certainty that all of us will die in

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Speaker 3: the next one hundred years. And whether there was climate

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Speaker 3: change or not, that assertion is unquestionably true.

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Speaker 1: It just is.

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Speaker 3: Utterly disingenuous to claim it's climate change that will cause it.

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Speaker 3: Let me focus on There was an article that came

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Speaker 3: out on September fifth from guy named Patrick Brown. Now

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Speaker 3: Patrick Brown is a PhD climate scientist and he is

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Speaker 3: the co director of the Climate and Energy Team at

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Speaker 3: the Breakthrough Institute, and he wrote an article in the

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Speaker 3: Free Press that I think is really consequential. I want

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Speaker 3: to just read from you the beginning of the article. Quote,

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Speaker 3: if you've been reading any news about wildfires this summer

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Speaker 3: from Canada to Europe to Maui, you will surely get

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Speaker 3: the impression that they are mostly the result of climate change.

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Speaker 3: Here's the AP quote, climate change keeps making wild fires

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Speaker 3: and smoke worse. Scientists call it the new abnormal. From

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Speaker 3: PBS News Hour quote Wildfires driven by climate change are

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Speaker 3: on the rise. Spain must do more to prepare, experts say,

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Speaker 3: And from the New York Times, how climate changed turn

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Speaker 3: lush Hawaii into a tinderbox? And from Bloomberg quote, Maui

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Speaker 3: fires show climate change's ugly reach. Now here's doctor Brown

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Speaker 3: continuing from this quote. I am a climate scientist, and

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Speaker 3: while climate change is an important factor affecting wildfires over

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Speaker 3: many parts of the world, it isn't close to the

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Speaker 3: only factor that deserves our sole focus.

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Speaker 1: So why does the.

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Speaker 3: Press focus so intently on climate change as the root cause?

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Speaker 3: Perhaps for the same reasons I just did in an

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Speaker 3: academic paper about wildfires in Nature, one of the world's

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Speaker 3: most prestigious journals. It fits a simple storyline that rewards

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Speaker 3: the person telling it. The paper I just published, climate

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Speaker 3: Warming increases extreme daily wildfire growth risk in California, focuses

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Speaker 3: exclusively on how climate change has affected extreme wildfire behavior.

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Speaker 3: I knew not to try to quantify key aspects other

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Speaker 3: than climate change in my research because it would dilute

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Speaker 3: the story that prestigious journals like Nature and its rival

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Speaker 3: Science want to tell. This matters because it is critically

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Speaker 3: important for scientists to be published in high profile journals.

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Speaker 3: In many ways, they are the gatekeepers for career success

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Speaker 3: in academia, and the editors of these journals have made

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Speaker 3: it abundantly clear, both by what they publish and what

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Speaker 3: they reject, that they want climate papers that support certain

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Speaker 3: pre approved narratives, even when those narratives come at the

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Speaker 3: expense of broader knowledge for society. To put it bluntly,

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Speaker 3: climate science has become less about understanding the complexities of

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Speaker 3: the world and more about serving as a cast kind

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Speaker 3: of Cassandra urgently warning the public about the dangers of

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Speaker 3: climate change. However understandable this instinct may be, it distorts

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Speaker 3: a great deal of climate science research, misinforms the public,

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Speaker 3: and most importantly, makes practical solutions more difficult to achieve.

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Speaker 3: This is a stunning indictment of the machinery and apparatus

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Speaker 3: around quote unquote science today. The journals publish quote unquote

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Speaker 3: research that echoes the pre approved political orthodoxy they want published,

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Speaker 3: and if you don't echo that, they don't publish you.

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Speaker 3: And it is one of the many really corrupt aspects

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Speaker 3: of how science and climate change reporting and academic work

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Speaker 3: is really doing a disservice to the American people.

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Speaker 2: When you look at not only the fact that this

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Speaker 2: is how you get the money. And I do think

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Speaker 2: it's an issue of follow the money as you just

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Speaker 2: describe it. Certainly it's an indoctrination on college campuses and

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Speaker 2: among researchers, and the cash flow is if you believe

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Speaker 2: in this, we will fund you. But when you make

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Speaker 2: these atletis claims and then you treat them as fact,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do to debate this with them.

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Speaker 2: When you look at what they said here, they said

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Speaker 2: this is a scientific consensus, and the authors say they

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Speaker 2: analyze one hundred and eighty studies, all of them, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure were studies that were funded by radical lefties and

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Speaker 2: global warming activists, right, those that raise money, etc. But

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Speaker 2: when they come out and say that, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: going to lose a billion people, you make it sound

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Speaker 2: that bad. Is there any way to overcome that with

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Speaker 2: anything else? But this propaganda, and I think that's why

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Speaker 2: they make these atlantis claims.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's why we need people, people in colleges and

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Speaker 3: universities and think tanks, in the academic world and in

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Speaker 3: the scientific world, to reject politicized science. Let me read

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Speaker 3: a little more from doctor Brown. Doctor Brown says quote.

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Speaker 3: So in my recent Nature paper, which I authored with

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Speaker 3: seven others, I focused narrowly on the influence of climate

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Speaker 3: change on extreme wildfire behavior. Make no mistake that influence

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Speaker 3: is very real. But there are also other factors that

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Speaker 3: can be just as or more important, such as poor

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Speaker 3: forest management and the increasing number of people who start wildfires,

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Speaker 3: either accidentally or purposely. A startling fact, over eighty percent

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Speaker 3: of wildfires in the US are ignited by humans. I

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Speaker 3: want to repeat that sentence because the corporate media will

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Speaker 3: never say it. A startling fact. Over eighty percent of

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Speaker 3: wildfires in the US are ignited by humans. Now here's

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Speaker 3: what doctor Brown continues to say. In my paper. We

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Speaker 3: didn't bother to study the influence of these other obviously

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Speaker 3: relevant factors. Did I know that including them would make

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Speaker 3: for a more realistic and useful analysis? I did, But

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Speaker 3: I also knew that it would detract from the clean

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Speaker 3: narratives centered on the negative impact of climate change, and

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Speaker 3: thus decrease the odds that the paper would pass muster

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Speaker 3: with Natures editors and reviewers. This type of framing with

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Speaker 3: the influence of climate change unrealistically considered n isolation is

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Speaker 3: the norm for high profile research papers. For example, in

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Speaker 3: another recent influential Nature paper, scientists calculated that the two

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Speaker 3: largest climate change impacts on society are deaths related to

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Speaker 3: extreme heat and damage to agriculture. However, the authors never

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Speaker 3: mentioned that climate change is not the dominant driver for

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Speaker 3: either one of these impacts. Heat related deaths have been

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Speaker 3: declining and crop yields have been increasing for decades despite

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Speaker 3: climate change. To acknowledge this would imply that the world

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Speaker 3: has succeeded in some areas despite climate change, which the

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Speaker 3: thinking goes, would undermine the motivation for emissions reductions. This

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Speaker 3: is a narrative of so called scientific inquiry scientific journals

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Speaker 3: academic journals that have abandoned the mission of science. Science

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Speaker 3: is about examining evidence following the scientific method, beginning with

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Speaker 3: the hypothesis, looking to evidence to disprove that hypothesis, and

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Speaker 3: determining what's happening today. An enormous amount of science is

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Speaker 3: simply politics covered in scientific garb, and in no places

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Speaker 3: that more profound than in the world of climate change,

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Speaker 3: where there are billions of dollars connected to so called

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is no longer about facts, certainly in academya

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Speaker 1: It's shocking to even have a working democracy.

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Speaker 4: But it's so funny. I mean, after I was on

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Speaker 4: And in a lot of cases, I guess Joe's now

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Speaker 4: media will not cover. But it's nothing like what Trump did.

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Speaker 4: There's just no equivalency to be you can say what

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Speaker 1: It would be every day. Yeah, I hear you on that.

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Speaker 1: I got one that.

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Speaker 4: Cocaine in the White House. Who couldn't be who does

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Speaker 4: cocaine around? And we can't figure it out?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you hear that. And yeah, he said some

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Speaker 1: things about Trump.

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Speaker 2: But this is Bill Maher calling out MSNBC on MSNBC saying,

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Speaker 2: you guys won't cover this, and you would be covering

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 3: I don't personally know Bill Maher. I've never met him,

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Speaker 3: and he's someone who is a doctrinaire liberal. He is

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Speaker 3: ways just how radical the Democrat Party has been. Because,

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Speaker 3: to Bill Maher's credit, he's remained a consistent doctorate air liberal.

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Speaker 3: So he actually believes in principles like free speech, he

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Speaker 3: he's spoken out against the extreme transgender ideology. He's pointed

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Speaker 3: out that that that's saying that suddenly massive percentages of

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Speaker 3: their physical appearance of sexuality. That that is an extreme

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Speaker 3: and dramatic shift in our society. And what he's saying here, listen,

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Speaker 3: you and I disagree with his assessment of the relative

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Speaker 3: to give him credit for acknowledging Biden's conduct because MSNBC

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Speaker 3: doesn't do that. That's the outlet he was on. CNN

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Speaker 3: doesn't do that, ABC doesn't do that, NBC doesn't do that,

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Speaker 3: CBS barely does that. It does that a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I will credit him for saying, listen

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Speaker 3: the evidence. Now, if you're a regular Verdict listener, you

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Speaker 3: personally solicited and received millions of dollars of bribes from

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Speaker 3: foign oligarchs and enemies of America. That is a big

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Speaker 3: damn deal. But the fact that Bill Maher I have

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Speaker 3: multiple times retweeted, pushed out Bill Maher's monologues and excerpts

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Speaker 3: I haven't. We actually invited Bill to be on this podcast,

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Speaker 3: and we've talked about I'm willing to go on a show,

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Speaker 3: and we haven't been able to make that scheduling work either,

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Speaker 3: But I hope at some point I'd like to have

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Speaker 3: a conversation with him. I've never spoken to the man,

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Speaker 3: but I respect that as an old school liberal, he's

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Speaker 3: looking around at the Democrat Party going, you people are crazy,

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Speaker 3: and looking around at the media going when you don't

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Speaker 3: United States, that undermines the integrity of what you claim

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Speaker 3: under other indication of just how radicalized the Democrats have become.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a nice break there, certainly from the

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Speaker 2: the shock on the face of the of the MSNBC

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Speaker 2: absolutely loved it for that reason. If nothing else, don't

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Speaker 2: forget me do this show three days a week. Make

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Speaker 2: sure if you're listening on Apple you hit that subscribe

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Speaker 2: button right now or auto download button if you're living

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Speaker 2: somewhere else, or or listening somewhere else or the follow button,

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Speaker 2: and I do a podcast in the in between days,

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Speaker 2: so if you want to listen to something else, download

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Speaker 2: the Ben Ferguson podcasts as well, and I'll see you

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Speaker 2: there on the days when you're not listening to Verdict,

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