1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Different ways to handle grieving. It's one more thing. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: I'm strong, and one more thing. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 3: It's an impactful topic. Yeah, heavy, perhaps. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Kind of Well, I don't know if it's so much 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: because we're gonna play a clip a story about Conan O'Brien. Actually, 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if this fits in or not. I 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: remember when I was reading Christopher Hitchen's book When He 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Got Cancer, which made an impact on me. Then when 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: I ended up getting cancer not long after it is 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: he said it's okay for me to make jokes about 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: my cancer, not okay for other people to make jokes 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: about my cancer. So it's God, there's a bit of 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: that when you're when you're talking about grieving, uh, you know, 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: death or whatever it is you're grieving or illness or 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: something like that. The the person involved kind of gets 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: to set the bar for how far we're willing to 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: go with this generally. 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Well, and it's very very different coming out of someone 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: else's mouth, even if they like, see where the bar 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: is and think, Okay, now I can make a joke. 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: Roughly now you can't. 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 2: Just don't. 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: But I have quite a bit of leeway with like 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: where I would be in terms of joking around about 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: very very serious subjects, just kind of the way I'm built. 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm not even close to where Conan O'Brien is, though 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: he's about to hear from the sty I always liked 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: the Conan O'Brien show. I think he's absolutely brilliant. Wrote 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: for The Simpsons, went to Harvard, wrote for Saturday Night Live, 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: and then had his own very successful talk show. Now 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: he does a podcast, video podcast, and he has guests 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: on all the time. The voice you're going to hear 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: talking to Conan will Arnett from Arrested Development. 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: He was also a very very funny guy. 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: What was his name on Arrested develop Job? He was 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: the brother job yet the magician anyway, and they're talking 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: about Conan O'Brien's parents. Conan had a great relationship with 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: his parents, which is important to the story because it's 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: not like he hated his parents, ade that he talked 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: about him all the time. His parents both died really 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: close together, like really close together, at the same time. 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: And so they also mentioned the star of Arrested Development, 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: Jason Bateman is involved in this and the texting and 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: everything that goes on, and I think that's enough of 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: a setup to understand the story. 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: This is real personal subject for you in the family, 47 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: my parents as well. First, let me just say the 48 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: timeline because I have it here. I wrote it down 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: last year because the timeline was so good. And so 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: I hear that that your your dad passes away, and 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: I text you that day or the next day, and 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: I said, hey, listen, I'm sorry to hear about your 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: dad's passing, sending love from our family to yours, and 54 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: you wrote thank you. Will to be honest, I blame 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: Bateman for the death of my for the death of 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: my father. The day after his father dies, yeah, so 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: I wrote, it's not a terrible theory, and con texted 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: me back, he killed my dad, my dad, can I say, 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: in fairness, my dad would have loved. 60 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: This so so so uh so then Baban Baban, I 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: tell Babman this, we're dying. 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: We're doing a thing that day, so he the next day, 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: Bateman texts you and he says, Arnette tells me you're 64 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: on to me, yes, and ConA texts baby. He says, Baban, 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: do yourself a fan favor, turn yourself in. 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: Two days after your dad passes. Of course, your mom 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: passed away yeah, which we didn't. I did not see coming, 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: but did not see coming. So I text you two 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: days after I knew you were a boss. I said, 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: Bateman is asking for your sister street addressing. 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, give yeah, And you were busy that weekend, 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 5: and like a day and a half later, you're texted 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 5: back just seeing this now fantastic six twenty five Boston Street, 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 5: Department twelve's. 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: He tell Bateman to make it look like a robbery. 77 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that's the whole thing. Oh, I agree, that is 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: so pretty. Can you there? 79 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: You go? 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: H that is some pretty edgy joking. Yeah, that's just 81 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: that speaks to their relationship. I guess that's that's crazy. 82 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: Codan's response, Bateman killed my father. 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: That's wow. I would not be engaged in that. I 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: take it that he's like one of those people where 85 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: that's actually healing for him. 86 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he actually he actually, after they talk about 87 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: some other stuff, he actually said that's the way I grieve. 88 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: He said, that's just way I'm built. I mean that 89 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: that was helpful for me to do that. 90 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fair enough, but that's that's at the very. 91 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Edge man of a push on that sort of thing. Yeah, 92 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: there's my sister's address. Make it look like an accident. 93 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: You know what really pisses people off who deal with grief, 94 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: like grief counselors and and and and ministers and what 95 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: do you call my mom? Was one chaplain at like 96 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: a hospice or something. Is where somebody watches the news 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: story and says, uh, you know, whether it's I think 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: they did it or they're something, because nobody acts like 99 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: that after their husband dies or their wife or their 100 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: mom or whatever. That's not the way somebody would act, 101 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: because everybody has a different way of processing. You know. 102 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: Some people just go to pieces and stay in pieces 103 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: for a while and pounce right back. Some people remain 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: very very stoic. They've got to keep it between the 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: es for a while, you know. So yeah, that's freaking hilarious. 106 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: And I just I'm trying to picture that like in 107 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: my own life somebody else And if my brother initiated it, 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 3: I would be all in. But I'm not sure I would. 109 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: Think to initiate it. 110 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: Wow, what was the initial blast? I blame Bateman or 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: something like that, because Conan initiated it, obviously, that's funny. Well, 112 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: I guess that's it.