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Speaker 2: Bale ever Way, Millie, Oh it's casey. Yes, I do know.

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Speaker 2: How's it going? Long time? No? See?

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Speaker 2: You know a little bit of that you know podcasting stuff?

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Speaker 2: Dude, Millie? I don't know. I was drunk. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: No, sure?

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Speaker 2: Well, hell, I got a podcast, Mike here in my

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'll only podcast with you under one condition.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the condition. I don't know the condition.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's fine. I'll do the work. But come back, Millie.

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Speaker 2: We got to record an episode of movie. People want

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Speaker 1: directed by Michael Ritchie, a really interesting filmmaker, starring Walter

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Speaker 1: Very springtime episode. I would say we are celebrating the

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Speaker 2: People are not loving this movie.

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Speaker 1: It's annoying, it's bad, Like move on anyway, that's scream seven.

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Speaker 1: That's somehow gayer, But not when kissing a dude. Am

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Speaker 2: Well? Will Smith isn't exactly in his right mind. Well

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Speaker 2: film diary show we Yeah, goodbye, I see you, I

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Speaker 2: from nineteen seventy six, directed by Michael Ritchie, written by

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Speaker 2: You know, this is a pretty well known movie. It's comedy,

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Speaker 2: orts movie, it's heartfelt. Stars Walter Mathow, Vic Morrow, Tatum O'Neill,

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Speaker 2: and Jackie Earle Haley. Do you remember on the Best

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Speaker 2: Show when John Worcester would always be like, isn't that

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Speaker 2: one movie starring what it was starring Jackie Earl Haley

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Speaker 2: and Maria Conchetta Alonzo. Yes, yes, yes, And like Tom Sharpling,

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's see, this movie was presented to me

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Speaker 2: I felt like the so how did you You'd have

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Speaker 1: But fast pitch was this obviously this whole other thing,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know if you relate to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny. I don't see you as a loser,

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Speaker 5: Wow, that's sweet, but I just mean, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: What do you think is the like, just out of

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Speaker 2: So who is you? Would you be?

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Speaker 2: I think is you? And which one?

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Speaker 1: Because I think I have a generally a feeling of

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Speaker 1: Probably I mean I would say I'm Kelly Leak a

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I related to Tatum O'Neill's character because

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean she was, you know, honestly like

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Speaker 2: It's over the top, you know. We talked about the

434
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: feral children, but like the part where like Walter math

435
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: I was like, all the kids are quitting the team

436
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: and he's like, what about you, Tanner, you want to quit?

437
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: He's like, I just want to play baseball. I got

438
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: really emotional when he said that, Like it was like

439
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: it's such a sincere moment, you know, And it's like

440
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: these it's easy to forg I mean out in real

441
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: life too. You meet these shithead little kids that like

442
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: are awful. They're saying the worst stuff to you. Like

443
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: I was a camp counselor, I worked in schools. Kids

444
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 2: say the worst, the meanest stuff they can think of,

445
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: and it cuts you deep. And then you turn around

446
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: and you try to treat them like an adult. You

447
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: say something mean back to them, and then they start

448
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: crying and you realize this is a child.

449
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just fall apart.

450
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: They fall apart. Yeah, and that's like the That's what

451
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: this movie really reminded me of. I'm like, these kids

452
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: are tough. These are tough kids. You know, they're talking

453
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: back to parents, they're getting in fights, they're smoking cigarettes.

454
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: But these are kids, you know, and they're tender little

455
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: babies and they need to be taken care of, which

456
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: I feel like Walter Mathows character really learns throughout the

457
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: course of this movie too.

458
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like, yeah, there's there's a lot of that

459
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: in the film too. Is the adult world versus the

460
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: kid world, and sort of like the ways in which

461
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: adults compete with each other and they use it, they

462
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: use to basically as pawns and they're old person's competition,

463
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, and you're just like that's fucked up.

464
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Should I get into the synopsis a little bit. Okay,

465
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: It's nineteen seventy six. We're in the Valley Baby, Los Angeles.

466
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: We meet drunk former minor league baseball player turned pool

467
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: man Morris Buttermaker played by Walter Mathow. He's taking over

468
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: coaching a little league team, the Bears, and Now, this

469
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 2: team is in this league because the dad of one

470
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: of the kids sued the league because his son wasn't

471
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: good enough to play. I guess he couldn't get on

472
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: another team, so he sued the league, and we're like, okay,

473
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: he can play, but he needs another team. So they

474
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: cobbled together this team of kids who aren't like good

475
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: enough to be on the other teams. So like, and

476
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: then also it like ruins the league having all these

477
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: little shittheads in there that suck, And so all the

478
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: other teams hate this team and they're bad, and guess

479
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: what they do suck And in the first game of

480
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: the season, they forfeit because in the first inning they're

481
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: like down by twenty five runs, they're never gonna win,

482
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: so they forfeit immediately. And I mean, Walter Mathow, he's

483
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: drinking and smoking in front of the kids, and I mean,

484
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: it's kind of shocking to see with my two twenty

485
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: six eyes seeing him just like drink beer on a

486
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: in front of all these kids. I mean it was

487
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: but man, that was great. I love that. So we

488
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: talked about some of the kids who are some of

489
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: the standout kids, who are some of your faves to you.

490
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean like, I all, I love them all.

491
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: I like them all.

492
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: I love the you know, the like little Mexican kids

493
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: and stuff. I don't know, just like really that was

494
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: the thing too, is that like I don't know just age,

495
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 1: but I get like really protective over these kids now

496
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: where I'm just like, oh, maybe as when I was

497
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: in my twenties and I was watching this movie, I

498
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, yeah, these kids are hilarious. They're cussing,

499
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: they're you know, smoking, they're fucking riding dirt bikes and

500
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: ship and now I'm like, oh, these little babies, Like honestly,

501
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: the the booger eating is.

502
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: Spas my god, was it lupis?

503
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I.

504
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: Like when Tanner protects him against the bullies. You just

505
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: like you just like Tanner is so funny. Man. That

506
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: kid is just cussing a mile Oh.

507
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: What I mean, what a what a fucking legend in

508
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: that way. And I you know, like again that's like

509
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: to speak to this like different type of child who

510
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: doesn't really seem like they exist anymore. I think it

511
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: I have I've talked about this before. I was like,

512
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I've talked about this with Danielle because We used to

513
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: have a joke about this on I saw what you did,

514
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: which is that like, up until this point, like children

515
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: were like largely unparented, Like if you were like especially

516
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: if you grew up in the like if you were

517
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: a seventies kid or before, like or if you were

518
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: born in the seventies and eighties and stuff, and you

519
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: were like a child during those eras. I mean, both

520
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: my parents worked, like I had a key to the

521
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: house when I was you know, probably like twelve or something,

522
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, like I was coming home alone. I was

523
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: supposed to like make my own snacks and like never

524
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: got picked up at school, like I rode the bus,

525
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And it was that kind of thing

526
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: where I was just like this many adult because my

527
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: parents had to go to their jobs and so I

528
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: felt much more mature, I think because of that. But

529
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: then also I was fucking unparented. That's why I was

530
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: watching all these fucking crazy movies when I was a kid.

531
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: Like that made me who I am? Yeah, I mean

532
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: you know that's why I was, you know, doing all

533
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: this crazy shit because nobody was around to really be like, hey,

534
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: don't do that, and like, so like it feels like

535
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: now the Tanners and the you know, the Kelly Leaks.

536
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I can't even imagine a Kelly Leak,

537
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: like I whereas I felt like I knew whereas I

538
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: felt like I knew like three of those guys in

539
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: my high school, you know.

540
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'm not going to pretend that I was

541
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: like wandering the streets of Minneapolis alone, you know, unparented,

542
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: but I feel like I encountered kids like this all

543
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: the time. I'd go to the park after school play

544
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, two hand touch football, like every day when

545
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: I was in like fourth grade, and it was like

546
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: only a few blocks from my house, but it really

547
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: felt like there were kids around where I'm like, that

548
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: kid is like on his own. Yeah, I just I

549
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: remember encountering kids like that. One time I was babysitting

550
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: these kids and their house was like pretty close to ours,

551
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: but next to a park, and the dad of these

552
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: kids was like, yeah, you can go play at the park,

553
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: but don't let any kids from the park in the house.

554
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: I was like, huh. And he's like, don't let any

555
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: kids from the park in the house. I was like what.

556
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: I was like, that's so weird. What a weird thing

557
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: to say. But we go to the park and like

558
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: there's like dozens of like unparented kids there and they're

559
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: like bothering us, you know, And I'm like, all right,

560
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: we got to go back to the kids I'm babysitting.

561
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: We go back to the their house and like they

562
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 2: all follow us and they try to get in the

563
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: house and they run in the house and they're running

564
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: around the house and I'm like, get out of the house,

565
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like kicking these like ten year olds out

566
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: of the house that were just like totally unparented. Yeah,

567
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: And so it reminded me of that time certainly.

568
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that like there was Yeah,

569
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: I grew up in the South, so there was a

570
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: little that well, there's bad kids around for sure, you know.

571
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: And there was a time where I've talked to my

572
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: sister about this because I was like, we were bad kids.

573
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I think, like in the view of other people, do

574
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Really interesting because we were Listen,

575
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: my sister and I are good girls, like we have

576
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: We're totally fine. We've never had drunken alcohol problems. We're

577
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: stand up people of society. We both have master's degrees,

578
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: like we're in the eyes of the world, like we

579
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 1: would be seen as like nerdy, half Asian, you know,

580
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: fucking like bright, ambitious.

581
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: Women, right or whatever.

582
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, But at the time, I think when we were kids,

583
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: we just were like like we went through this whole

584
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: period of where we moved from like rural South Carolina

585
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: to you know, northern suburbs of Atlanta, and we had

586
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: kind of moved to this better like bigger and better

587
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: house and the people around us were like, you know,

588
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, like upper middle class maybe

589
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 1: or something like that, and like everyone is white. Like

590
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: that was the thing that we didn't had. We did

591
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: not have that experience when we were growing up in Charles,

592
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: Like when I was out of Charleston, which is we

593
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: had neighbors that were of every stripe. But when we

594
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: moved to Marietta was like, oh, everybody's white in southern

595
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: and there was this feeling of like, I don't think

596
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: that these parents want us to hang out with their

597
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: kids because we are foreign type, you know, like we're

598
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: not white. Our grandparents lived with us at one point,

599
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: so there was you know, like we ate ethnic foods

600
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: and we were not like you know, I brought like

601
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: fucking weird soup Filipino soups to school. You know, it's

602
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: like we were not like white, rich people, and you know,

603
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: we were both loud mouths. My Ster and I were

604
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: fucking loud mouths. Like we were so foul mouthed in

605
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: high school, like we were like especially high school, but

606
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: even like before that, we were like loud as fuck.

607
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: And you know, my parents worked, so we were largely unsupervised.

608
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: And I just felt like, if I look back and retrospect,

609
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, those like parents did not want

610
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: us to hang out with their kids at all, and

611
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: I feel like they think of us now as these

612
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: like fucking Hellians or something.

613
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, where I'm like, I.

614
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: Don't know, because I thought I was normal or whatever,

615
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: but it's like to everybody else. So I was like,

616
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. You come at it and you're thinking

617
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: you're like Vic Morrow's kid or some shit, and then

618
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: actually you're Kelly Leek and you're like, fuck, I didn't

619
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: know that about myself.

620
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: So it's interesting. Wow. Well, uh, something else I wanted

621
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: to point out from the beginning of this movie is

622
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: that there's a banquet and a pizza Hut. Yeah, and

623
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: I was like, this used to be a proper country.

624
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: What a time. The pizza buffet at Pizza Hut where

625
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: they were serving alcohol at Pizza Hut. Incredible.

626
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: I just googled pizza Hut near me.

627
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: I want it now? What the fuck?

628
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Oh?

629
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: Like, do you remember those places you could go in?

630
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could deliver pizza Hut until like

631
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: high school. I thought that Pizza Hut was a sit

632
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: down restaurant for the first like sixteen years of my life.

633
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like McDonald's I used to think of

634
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: as more of a sit down restaurant because we would

635
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: eat in there and also I had like birthday parties

636
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: at McDonald's. But you know, that's not the country we

637
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: live in today. Anyways, moving on the team is bad,

638
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: the Bad News Bears. They're bad and they're on the

639
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: verge of disbanding. But Buttermaker, he sees that these kids

640
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: really want to play even though they suck, you know,

641
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: like I said earlier, He's like, Tanner, do you want

642
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: to quit? And he's like, I just want to play ball.

643
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: So he kicks him in the ass and they get

644
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: a little bit better. They get a little bit better,

645
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: and then they get a lot better when Buttermaker recruits

646
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: the child of his former girl. The child's name Amanda Wurlitzer,

647
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: played by Tatum O'Neil. He sees her when she's selling

648
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: maps to the stars on the side of the road,

649
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: and he convinces her to join the team, and she's

650
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: really good and she makes the team that much better.

651
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: You know, watching this, I was just like Tatom O'Neill.

652
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: She was a very She was a great child actor there. Really,

653
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: she really was wonderful. Yeah, and it's fun to watch

654
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: her in this.

655
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: She's the best dude.

656
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, did this movie make you think of Licorice Pizza

657
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: at all?

658
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: No?

659
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: Did it make you make you? Yeah, it made me

660
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: think of it. I hadn't watched it since I watched

661
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: Liquorice Pizza, And it was just kind of fun seeing

662
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: like the Valley in the seventies. Oh sure, sure, no,

663
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: I you know, I see that, and.

664
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: You know, I uh, I do think that there is

665
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: a whole generation of filmmakers that are influenced by seventies

666
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: movies like this. This is not like Pta is not

667
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: the first person to be influenced by bad newspers. I

668
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: mean honestly, like so many, so many filmmakers that are

669
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: you know of a certain age that really love a

670
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: hangout seventies Valley film.

671
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.

672
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to ask you is, so, what's

673
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: your vibe on drinking in front of your kid? Like,

674
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a window of time, Like most

675
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: of the people that I know who have kids are

676
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: having beers before like two because they're kind of like

677
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: they're too young to even know what the fuck is

678
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: going on? Like, right, but is there a time where

679
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: you kind of like know, oh, well, maybe they're watching

680
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: me have some bruskis and I should like cut it off.

681
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a post to you know, I had

682
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: a beer with dinner last night in front of patients.

683
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not a post to the act of

684
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: drinking alcohol in front of my daughter. I do think

685
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: a lot more now, Like I don't really want to

686
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: be even slightly buzzed around her because I got parenting

687
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: to do, you know, And you know, I'll have a

688
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: drink at night after she's gone to bed, but I

689
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: won't I won't be like a Walter Mathew making her

690
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: make me Martini's. I love that problem. Yeah, I'm sure

691
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: you did.

692
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: I was like Martini's arrived, Casey.

693
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: Is He's like, thank you, fully locked in.

694
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: Casey is fully locked in. But like so, I guess

695
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: my point is, I mean, how hardcore is it if

696
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: you are a kid, if you were like Timmy lupis

697
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: to know how to make it perfect Martini at his age,

698
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: like someone taught you, dude, Walter Math he was just

699
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: like perfect.

700
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: He's like excellent, Like it was like a great march.

701
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: Like you had to have seen your parents make them

702
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: often in order to get the recipe right.

703
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 2: Yes, really made me laugh ill. I love it too

704
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: when he's smoking the cigar in the car and Tatum

705
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: O'Neil takes it and throws it out the car and

706
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: he's like, I just lit that. That's terrible.

707
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: I want to Like, I love Walter mathout like as

708
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: much as he is such a scumback in this movie,

709
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: he really is a scumbag.

710
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah he is. I mean he really is drinking. So

711
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: he's like the person taking care of all of these children,

712
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: and he is so drunk and drinking the whole movie.

713
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: And the thing that I love about a seventies movie

714
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: is that this isn't like he doesn't have the biggest

715
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: redemption arc like it's he has. He's a mild redemption

716
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: arc where he's kind of liked towards the end, he's like,

717
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: all right this wait.

718
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: That's what makes it more effective to me because he

719
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: never goes full like I've been a bastard I've been

720
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: you know. He just changes his ways a little bit,

721
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: you know.

722
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And that's that's what I love about it,

723
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: is that, like a grim seventies movie that will tell

724
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: you that the alcoholic will still be an alcoholic after

725
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: the credits ruled.

726
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: Like it's like, there's no like, it's not like he's

727
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: like I'm throwing my beer away, you know, I'm dumping

728
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: out my flask. No, there's none of that.

729
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure he's gonna take Tatum O'Neil to the drive in,

730
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be fucking trash still and that's fine.

731
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know so yeah, no, that's no. I mean,

732
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: Walter math I was he really they don't make them

733
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: like that anymore. The King of the Craggy Hots. I mean,

734
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: it's like they.

735
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: Don't make craggy guys because people don't smoke as many

736
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: cigarettes as.

737
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: They used to. Well, we'll be talking. Yeah, it's true.

738
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 2: I just feel like movies in the seventies, you really

739
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: felt like these people walked in off the street. Even

740
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: the kids in this movie, you're like, this kid is

741
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: a real kid. Where everyone is so precocious, all the

742
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: child actors are so well polished and precocious. Now, like

743
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: Kara Klank, she complains about how her kids talk like

744
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: Nickelodeon shows now, like her kids in real life. They'll

745
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: be like, dad, you gotta cut it out. Like they'll

746
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: talk like that now, whereas like people were much more

747
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: raw in the seventies.

748
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you need a kid to be like, yo,

749
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: kiss my ass, Like yeah, unfortunately, not gonna happen.

750
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: So well, the team, they're getting better when they recruit

751
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: the local punk who hangs around the baseball field riding

752
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: a Harley and smoking cigarettes. I mean Jackie or Earl Haley.

753
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: He was really riding that motorcycle without a helmet. Yeah,

754
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: and he's like twelve, So they recruit him and he's

755
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: like amazing. Yeah, and the Bad News Bear has become

756
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the league. And guess

757
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: what they make the championship game against the hated Yankees

758
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: you know, it's sad. You see Vic Morrow in this

759
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: movie and I just only think about how he died

760
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: every time I see his name. That's very tragic and horrible.

761
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, because that's.

762
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: Hees ot on set right, Yeah, with John Landis is set.

763
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: He was like killed in like a helicopter crash that

764
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: they're on set. It's really horrible. And he's Jennifer Jason

765
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: Lee's dad. Mm hmmm. So anyways, his character is so

766
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: scary in this movie. Yeah, he's a scary dad.

767
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Like I did not have that type of dad. Me neither,

768
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: and I am so grateful because I did have friends

769
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: that had that type of dad, and it was scary

770
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: to see, like as a kid knowing my friend had.

771
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: This like real hard ass dad. Yeah, you know, my dad.

772
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: Was super nice, Like he just was like a total

773
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: pussycat and yeah, never made me feel bad about anything.

774
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Like both my parents were also like they generally just

775
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: let me do whatever the fuck were like, they were

776
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: basically like follow your bliss, Like they never forced me

777
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: to be this like thing that they wanted. Because that's

778
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: kind of how it feels as like Vic Morrow's character,

779
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: like his son is the pitcher for the Yankees, and

780
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: it's like you can tell. He's like, you will play baseball,

781
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: you will go pro, Like this is the legacy that

782
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: I've established for you, and when you fuck up, you're

783
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: destroying the legacy and you have to be punished for it.

784
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: Whereas like, I'm like, can't even imagine that, Like I'm just.

785
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I mean I can still emotionally, I was

786
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: scared a lot of friends' dads or like the coaches

787
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: of teams that were also dads of kids on teams

788
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: and that, Yeah, I remember that feeling and like encountering

789
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: these types of dads growing up, and I am thankful

790
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: my dad was not that way at all. Yeah, And

791
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: they let me quit sports willy nilly, you know. I

792
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: remember when I quit football, they were like, Okay, not

793
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: a problem, Yeah, we can quit if you don't like it,

794
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: you don't have to do it. Yeah, you know. So

795
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: I am appreciative of that because I think that would

796
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: be really hard. I mean, I knew a kid who

797
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: played basketball and he was on the varsity team, and

798
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: other people told me that his dad came into the

799
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: locker room after a game and started beating the shit

800
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: out of him in the walk and like high school

801
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: kids had to pull him off, and it's like that's crazy.

802
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: Can you imagine, I mean, how horrible.

803
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this I would I would rather you

804
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: just have fucking dipped, dude.

805
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: Like you could just have dipped when I was like a.

806
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: Kid, versus you like humiliating me on a baseball diamond,

807
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: like punching, like hitting me in the face, or like

808
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: being like aggressive towards them. I mean, it just seems

809
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: so crazy. So I'm like, I don't know.

810
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, there have been cases in Minnesota where dads have

811
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: killed other dads in the stands because they're so mad

812
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: about a youth hockey game. And it's like crazy, Like,

813
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's not good. It just makes me really.

814
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: Grateful that I had supportive parents, Like they never told

815
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: me to do anything I didn't want to do, Like

816
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: they were just like you do you and well you

817
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: will be brown. Yeah it's great.

818
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: But I am gonna, you know, be really hard on

819
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: patients when she plays.

820
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I figure that you were probably gonna

821
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: get a cattle prod and just schock her into ice

822
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: skating another to another double axle.

823
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: The attrician and I were talking and who knows what

824
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: our child would be, you know, but we were kind

825
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: of like, I don't know if our child is an athlete,

826
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: Like she's not. She is really not a risk taker physically,

827
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 2: She like does not go down slides. So I don't

828
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: know if she's got what it takes to be, you know,

829
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: our next great hockey player. But anyways, yeah, I could.

830
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: I could tell, like through my nephews too, Like what

831
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: like one of them just has more physicality than the other. Yeah,

832
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: Like like one of my nephews like just likes to

833
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: be low key and sit around and read and like

834
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: play video games and stuff, and the other one is

835
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: like fucking doing gymnastics in the goddamn dining room, and like,

836
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, you could just be like, oh, he's he

837
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: might be a chock. He just wants to be more

838
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: physical and run around and do shit, you know. Totally,

839
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: So no, totally, And like we have friends kids who

840
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: are like like one of our friends kids is and

841
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: my friends are not this way. But he's obsessed with football,

842
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: This little two year old boy, he like loves it

843
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: when it's on the screen. He carries a little football

844
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: around and he like loves be a little football play yeah,

845
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: so like I think some kids are just more.

846
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: Naturally predisposed to them. Yeah, and should it should be encouraged.

847
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: I think sports are good, but I just don't know

848
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: if patience has what it takes. Anyways, the championship is here,

849
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: and Buttermaker has gone over the edge. He's started to

850
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: care too much about winning. He throws beer on Amanda,

851
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: saying he doesn't want anything to do with her after

852
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: the season that was that was hard, tough, hard scene.

853
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: He tells Kelly to do whatever it takes to win.

854
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: And so you know, Kelly's like swooping in front of

855
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: people as they're about to catch the ball and just

856
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: in case they might drop it. He asks Rudy Stein

857
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: to intentionally get hit by pitches. But things really come

858
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,959
Speaker 2: to a head, which we already referred to when Roy

859
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: Turner played by Vic Morrow, he slaps his own kid.

860
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: Roy Turner's the coach of the Yankees. He slaps his

861
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: own kid on the mound. And it's at that point

862
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: that I feel like Buttermaker really realizes, you know, these

863
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: kids just want to play ball. They don't want to

864
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: they don't they don't they want to win, but they

865
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: don't care. They want to play baseball, right, you know,

866
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: so he starts kind of Buttermaker starts putting the worst

867
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: players out so they get a chance to play in

868
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: the championship, and you know, they almost win despite not

869
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: pushing the gas pedal down super hard at the end,

870
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: but they don't. And when awarded the second place trophy

871
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: our Buddy Tanner, he turns to the Yankees and he says, hey, Yankees,

872
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: you can take your apology and your trophy and shove

873
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: them straight up your ass. And then they spray each

874
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: other with beer because they gave the kids, yeah beer.

875
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: I guess I just like I was at first.

876
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: I could remember what. I was like, Oh, certainly those

877
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: aren't those like fruit punch barrels. Those are like Mickey's

878
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: or something like why those are like little red stripe

879
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: battles of beer. Yes, I was like, oh fuck, he

880
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: gave him beers. That's hilarious.

881
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and they're just spraying each other having a

882
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: good time. It's funny. There's like one supportive dad in

883
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: the stands throughout the movie. They never like really meet him,

884
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: but he's always like, yeah, bears, you don't really know

885
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: whose dad it is either, but he's like, and then

886
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: at the end you see him carrying a kid like

887
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: porn beer on his head and stuff. So it's like, Okay,

888
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 2: there's one good dad in the stands that they don't

889
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: really name. But what a film.

890
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Honestly, Michael Ritchie is a director. We

891
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: haven't really talked about him much, even though I did

892
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: talk about him during Semi Tough when I recommended Semi

893
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: Tough on the Burt Reynolds episode. I mean, he's quite

894
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: a filmmaker. I mean, he made a lot of like

895
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: popular movies in the eighties, but like his seventies movies

896
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: are fucking insane. Like he made movies like Prime Cut,

897
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: which if you've never seen Prime Cut, holy shit, what

898
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: a bizarre film that is. I mean, that's a fucking

899
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: crazy movie. But he made Smile, which is basically the

900
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: original dropped at Gorgeous about the pageant industry. I mean,

901
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: I already talked about how Semi Tough was the weird

902
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest movies I've ever seen, But the

903
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: seventies movie seemed to have this like weird arc about

904
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: like American stuff, which I think that's something about the

905
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: bad News Bears that's really interesting is that it came

906
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: out basically nineteen seventy six, like this by centennial of America,

907
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: which we've got another another celebration this year, right, it's

908
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: the what do you call it? Semi Oh my god,

909
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: it's America's birthday, casey, come on, god damn it.

910
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: It's the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. What is this.

911
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: Semi quinn centennial, semi semi quinn.

912
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: Centennial, semi quincenten.

913
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, the bi centennial was in nineteen seventy six,

914
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: and to me, I always think this is interesting. We're

915
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: going to talk about this with Jenny a little bit

916
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: in her area of expertise, but like when movies are

917
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: like these seventies movies that seem to have like nods

918
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: to like Americana or like you know, flat like there's

919
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: a lot of like flag waving in The Bad News Bears,

920
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like kids singing the Star Spangled banner.

921
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: I think it's obviously like making, you know, a statement

922
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: on these American things, right, yeah, because it's America's birthday,

923
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like Michael Richie particularly has something like

924
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: he's got his finger on the pulse of that a

925
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: little bit.

926
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: So he's got like a you know, he did the

927
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: movie The Candidate and stuff. It seems like there's like

928
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of an American something.

929
00:51:59,520 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

930
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

931
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: He also did like Downhill Racer, which is about the

932
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: Olympics and the US ski team, So it's kind of like, yeah,

933
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: he seems to kind of like take out like portions

934
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: of American society and kind of give him a little

935
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, football, the pageant industry, baseball, you know, politics.

936
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, that's interesting.

937
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him.

938
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: Any other thoughts about The Bad News Bears.

939
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, it was really good to watch this again.

940
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it in a long time. It definitely

941
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: is a fun romp, like it feels so seventies like

942
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: and I we said this earlier, but it's so rougher

943
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: on the edges.

944
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 2: It reminds me stylistically of like The Longest Yard, where

945
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: it is like we're just kind of there's a lot

946
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: of like hanging out and fun stuff is happening. And yeah,

947
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: it is a seventies movie. Yeah, through and through.

948
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean at times it feels kind of like a

949
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: documentary or something like you're just you know, like totally

950
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: the camera work is real, real shaky and shitty, and

951
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I mean there's just like

952
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: there's there's a scene where like Jackie Earl Haley and

953
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: Tantamonial are riding on a dirt bike with like no

954
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: helmets on, and she's like go faster and he's like okay,

955
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like fuck like.

956
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 2: They and they are writing that, oh it's down the straya.

957
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: They are riding it like hell, and I'm like they,

958
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: no way they let these kids do that, period, even

959
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: if they were wearing like, you know, fucking padded suits

960
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,479
Speaker 1: and helmets, They're They're not letting kids ride a dirt

961
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: bike like that. Come on. So but I appreciate how

962
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: how renegade and off the cuff and rough on the

963
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: edges of this movie is and that's why it's a kinastic.

964
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 2: So No, it was great. It was really a joy.

965
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: And I was getting like I said, I was like

966
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: getting emotional with these kids. I mean, you know, maybe

967
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: I just the older I get, the more I just

968
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: like feel for the you know, it's hard being a

969
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: little kid. Yeah, you know, I feel bad for little kids,

970
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: and I just get emotional when they're putting situations that

971
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: they really have led are really hard and uh I

972
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I really loved watching this movie. That

973
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: was just great.

974
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they eventually became first class citizens and

975
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: were thought about because there.

976
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: Was a time where.

977
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: Nobody really cared by either way. You just run around

978
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: and I'll see you when the street lights come on.

979
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, all right, Well we're gonna move on

980
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: to our talk with Jenny's Agreno. All Right, everybody, we're

981
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: back for another installment of my area of Expertise, and

982
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: we've got another expert on today. We've got the stand

983
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: up comedian Jenny's Agreno, who you may have seen on

984
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: HBO drop Out TV, and she's recording her new special

985
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: May thirteenth. Welcome, Jenny, Thank you so much for.

986
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me a pleasure.

987
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: Now, Jenny, you have a very very specific, I would say,

988
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: area of expertise.

989
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: Have you ever had anyone on who has something that specific?

990
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Alicia Malone came on and talked about people

991
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: drinking out of empty coffee cups in movies.

992
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: Oh I love that. That's fun.

993
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: No, this is great. This is par for the chorus.

994
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: This is one perfect And I just saw an Instagram

995
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: video of yours, where you're even trying to buy I think,

996
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: a historical eighteenth century costume for your dog.

997
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: Oh I bought it.

998
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 2: Oh you bought it? Okay, fantastic, I bought it. Which

999
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: one did you go with?

1000
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 3: Well, my friend's actually gonna crochet one, So I'm buying

1001
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 3: to crochet me a little red coat outfit from a dog.

1002
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: And I just bought a great coat. Do you know

1003
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 3: what a great coat is? No, be your big military coat.

1004
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 3: It's got usually got like an Inverness cape and it's

1005
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: a it's like a cape but it's cloak, but it's

1006
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: got arms, so it's like a big, big military coat.

1007
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: So I just bought one of them.

1008
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: Where where are you doing this?

1009
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: Are you at auctions?

1010
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: Are you online?

1011
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: I went to ed okay, cool to be fair, and

1012
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: I hate it, but this is the this is the

1013
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 3: monetary life I live is I can only afford mostly

1014
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: Amazon colonial outfits, which surprisingly not bad, not horrific.

1015
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, that's amazing. Actually I had to go recently.

1016
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: I had to go to Amazon to find a flapper

1017
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: outfit for this like theme party, and it was terrible.

1018
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: So it is it's kind of like you've got to

1019
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: maybe find your era. It seems like maybe that era

1020
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: is not as good as your era.

1021
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: Right, yes, so specifically, for some reason, there is like

1022
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 3: this one brand that makes this pretty like I would

1023
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 3: say medium quality Rococo inspired eighteenth century men's outfit, which

1024
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: the look, the you know, the fake embroidery is all

1025
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 3: wrong and the pants don't fit correctly, but it does

1026
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: what it's supposed to do.

1027
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: Sure, you know, it.

1028
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 3: Evokes the feeling that I'm going for, So so it works.

1029
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 3: I got three, that's Jenny.

1030
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: How do where did this come from? Where? Where did

1031
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: how did you become like so knowledgeable about eighteenth century costume?

1032
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: No? This is so this has been like a recurring

1033
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 3: theme in my life. When I was five, I saw

1034
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: the movie I'm a Dais Wow, and that was like, well,

1035
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: this is who I am and never strayed. And then

1036
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: you know, it gets bare every once in a while,

1037
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: it gets buried, like I'm like into it, and then

1038
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I got it, this is cringe. I'm

1039
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: gonna go like something else, and then I go, I god,

1040
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: I love this. So I've always liked historical costumes, always,

1041
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: like I was a Renaissance fair kid, I, you know,

1042
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: loved to dress up. I was always a theater kid

1043
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: on the inside, and I always wanted to be historic

1044
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: of like some kind of grandeur. So I've just alway

1045
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: always loved dressing up in historic costumes. At this point

1046
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: in my spiritual journey, as someone who lived in la

1047
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: for ten years, clearly there was a past life thing

1048
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: going on. I existed in this time before as a man,

1049
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: for sure. But I've done both. I've done both. I

1050
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 3: used to be a colonial rein actor in Boston. Wow,

1051
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 3: I was Susannah Copley, John Singleton Copley's wife.

1052
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: I know who those people are.

1053
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: This is Copley Square. You have been a Copley Square.

1054
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: I have Boston. No, Oh, you got to get to Boston.

1055
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: I got to get to Boston.

1056
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's named after this famous painter who basically any

1057
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: painting of John Hancock Sam Adams, John Adams General Gage,

1058
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: like all these colonial people were painted by him. He

1059
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: was a loyalist. So I always try to portray a

1060
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: loyalist because I'm a baddie and I'm a little shitster.

1061
00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: I'm like a ship poster from seventeen seventy and I

1062
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: just I just always loved it, and like I loved

1063
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 3: I don't know why that particular era does something. I

1064
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: think it's partially the Enlightenment period is really like kind

1065
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: of where a lot of modern ideas come from, right,

1066
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: and it was men were flat, like men could be flowery,

1067
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: and they were dandies and they were macaronis and like

1068
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: it was a very like as much as you know,

1069
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: if we want to take modern gender stuff, like yeah,

1070
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: like you were you wore embroidery and flowers, and you

1071
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 3: had a powdered wig, and you wore makeup and you

1072
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: had high heels. Like it's they are like, you know,

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00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: those are the men of their time.

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00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, check out slamboyance to it. That's like really

1075
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: kind of exciting exactly.

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00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: And then you get into regency, which everyone you know,

1077
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: you know, has their dicks all over and it's just

1078
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: like boring. It's brown and navy blue and trousers.

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00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: Ugh, is that is regency? Because I am right expert,

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01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: that's Bridgerton?

1081
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: Okay, period?

1082
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: Did did that? Like when I was going to ask

1083
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: you about Bridgerton did when that came out and people

1084
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: were like getting so horny for that time period? Did

1085
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: that piss you off.

1086
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: No, Okay. So in the romance world, there's a very

1087
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: particular like regency romance is like its own thing. So

1088
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 3: but Regency is like, you know, that's Jane Austen like then,

1089
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: like you're evoking such a time of romance with the

1090
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: Regency period, and I think that it's also I don't know,

1091
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, the like the fashion was so different,

1092
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 3: like compared to like this like voluptuous, flowery, you know,

1093
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 3: eat money. There's a lot of fucking money in agent

1094
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: centric clothing, and you know, then you get into like

1095
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: the gentleman and the gentry, and I don't know, I

1096
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 3: think that with Bridgerton this is a different I think

1097
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 3: it's a little boring. Frankly, no wigs.

1098
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with that.

1099
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 3: Who gives a shit.

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01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask about the Amadeis thing, yea, because

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01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: I remember when Amadeas came out. I'm a little I'm

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01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: a little old and I watched it, you know, when

1103
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: I was probably in like elementary school or something like that,

1104
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: and you know it was sort of like maybe maybe

1105
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: it was a little too adult for me.

1106
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: At the time.

1107
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not really into classical music. I'm

1108
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: in like third grade or whatever. And then recently, and

1109
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: I talked about this on an episode recently on our podcast,

1110
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: I kind of like decided that I was just going

1111
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: to like do an entire overview of classical music because

1112
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: I just felt uneducated about it. And so I was

1113
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: like listening to this this I guess it's like a

1114
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: classical for dummies type of podcast, and it went through

1115
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: all the different periods of classical music, and it made

1116
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: me want to go back and watch Amadias again. And

1117
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: so I went on this like huge deep dive about

1118
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: Amadas and I was like, man, this these amazing, Like

1119
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: I love it, I love the actors, I love the

1120
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: whole vibe of it because it feels kind of contemporary,

1121
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: but it's also like in the period.

1122
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: And I started reading about that.

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01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: I was so ignorant of this, and I'm sure you

1124
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: know all about this, about the wig thing, and about

1125
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: how I could understand like why people wore wigs, why

1126
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: they powdered them. I was kind of like, what's the deal.

1127
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: And then I was like, as I was slowly learning

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01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: about it, I was like getting horrified by the idea

1129
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: of the wig getting disgusting over time, and that's why

1130
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: people were powdering them. Am I wrong about that?

1131
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: Or so I've heard the reason for the powder was

1132
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: because so white, having a white wig was like you're

1133
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: wealthy as fuck, right, Okay, great, So the wig color

1134
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: also is a class thing. So gray wigs tend to

1135
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 3: be businessmen, okay, in truth, so the white wig is like,

1136
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: I'm wealthy, I'm royal. There's also a level of like

1137
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: you're at a ball in your white wig. It's reflective,

1138
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: so you can see people better, right with all that candlelight.

1139
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: And so the powdered I'm sure was also like dry

1140
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: shampoo your hands wig. And then also it was probably reflective,

1141
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: and then it was like, well, okay, I can't afford

1142
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: a white wig, but I can afford to powder my wig.

1143
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 3: And then also later on the in like when you

1144
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 3: get to the seventeen eighties and nineties, and even in

1145
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: the seventeen seventies, men stop wearing wigs. They just start

1146
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: wearing their hair in quays or ques ques, not quays.

1147
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 3: I think it's a que jun't on the ponytail. It's

1148
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 3: been as aliz yeah and uh yeah. And then wigs

1149
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 3: become more like kind of like old fashioned and out

1150
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: of style. Yeah, Okay, by like the seventeen eighties and nineties,

1151
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 3: you're getting men not wearing wigs as much unless you're

1152
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: like higher class or older. And by this by the

1153
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: eighteen hundreds, no one's wearing like wigs or of the past.

1154
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: But you also find that, like I find a very

1155
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: interesting women's women's hairstyle during that time, because then you

1156
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 3: get like as you go to the seventeen eighties and nineties,

1157
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: instead of up, it becomes a volume thing. Yeah, Like

1158
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: you'll notice the women wigs in like paintings from the

1159
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: seventeen eighty eighty eight is like a very wide it's

1160
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 3: called like I was looking this up yesterday, starts with

1161
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 3: the t triant like a treon or something style of

1162
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: wig that's like very volumous on the side, and then

1163
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: you usually have long curls or long hair down it

1164
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 3: as well.

1165
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: Wow, so so fascinating.

1166
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean also too, you did you had lice and

1167
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: you had you know, of all those problems, and you

1168
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: were bald like one of the I was researching this

1169
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 3: because I was like, who's the hottest founding father, And

1170
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: I've decided it's Aaron Burr. Okay, I've decided he's very cute.

1171
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 3: He's much cuter than Hamilton. Hamilton was like, ugh, okay,

1172
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: we get it, you're hot, but like Aaron Burr is

1173
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: like that kind of like, oh what is he? But

1174
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: one of his paintings is like you can see his receipting,

1175
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: like they paint him with the receiving hairline, right yeah,

1176
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 3: and it.

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: Feels like they could have just edited that out.

1178
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: I can see this Aaron birthing now that I'm looking

1179
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: at him, I'm like, I see he kind of Okay.

1180
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: There's a specific painting by Gilbert Stewart of Aaron Burr.

1181
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 3: So put Gilbert Stewart eron Burr and I think he's

1182
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: a little I think he's a little cutie. It's him,

1183
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 3: like I think it was a painter of like the

1184
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: seventeen eighties.

1185
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: And he's like, uh, yes, that's the one I was

1186
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: just looking at.

1187
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: That's he's a little cutie there.

1188
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he looks like kind of a sweet nerd.

1189
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love it. Actually that is so funny.

1190
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 3: And I was like, it's him, He's the hot one.

1191
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1192
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: I also do compile, so I also write gay eighteenth

1193
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: century romance called The Pounding father Wow, it starts abounding fathers.

1194
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 3: This is good, The Founding Fathers of the American Revolution.

1195
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm I'm currently editing the first one that's coming out.

1196
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: It's gonna be about Bennet Donald and Ethan Allen over

1197
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: their takeover for Tech Honderoga. These are deep cuts.

1198
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: Oh there's I'm sure there's people that are slurping the

1199
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: this is.

1200
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: But I've on my on the Instagram for it. I've

1201
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 3: compiled a list of like hottest hot founding fathers and

1202
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: so there's like one guy who was a captain in

1203
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 3: the British Army that's so hot. I'm just like these

1204
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: these paintings. You know, I'm drinking off, you know what

1205
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 3: I mean.

1206
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: Once in a while, like there will be like a

1207
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: TikTok or something where somebody will be like who is

1208
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: this guy?

1209
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: And it's like it's.

1210
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: A picture of like somebody from this period and they're like, holy,

1211
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: I love the smash, and I'm like, yeah, I mean

1212
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: total Washington.

1213
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 3: Allston was a real hotie back like one time, and well,

1214
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: this is how far back I go is that after

1215
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: high school, my friend Cedar and I I made her

1216
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 3: a book. We were like nineteen. I made her a

1217
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: book of like the Hottest Men from History that included

1218
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: like eighteenth the nineteenth century paintings. So this goes back,

1219
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: like my love of this goes very far back.

1220
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: Yes, well, that's exciting, we like. So would you would

1221
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: you say that Amadas was kind of your awakening in

1222
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: terms of like your love for this period and for

1223
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: these clothes.

1224
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 3: Okay, for sure. And I think that like, growing up

1225
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: in the Midwest, you don't have a lot of agient

1226
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 3: century history. So when I moved to Boston, it was like,

1227
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, there's actual, like history from the seventeen hundreds.

1228
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: So then I got more into the American history aspect

1229
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 3: of it. So I loved it then. And then also

1230
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: I think it was like, uh, I liked you know,

1231
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 3: I liked the movie Amadaeis a lot. And then in

1232
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 3: high school, my friends and I got really into a

1233
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: Master and Commander for some reason. Oh yeah, I love

1234
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 3: that movie.

1235
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: I love that movie.

1236
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 3: And that's late, that's later, that's Napoleonic.

1237
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like there's a wig to beef.

1238
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember there being.

1239
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 3: The upper class they're wearing them. I think they still

1240
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: they are.

1241
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I wasn't looking I remember if I.

1242
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 3: Remember in some of the scenes. But in that scene

1243
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 3: you can see that Russell Crowe has his hair tied

1244
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 3: so it's like, so he's doing the hole. My hair

1245
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 3: is still tied back, but it's not a wig. Yes, okay,

1246
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 3: so you can see some of that.

1247
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: This is good. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be on

1248
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: a wig lookout from now on. You sent us a

1249
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: note just to go back to some of the Founding

1250
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: Father's stuff. He sent us a note specifically about seventeen

1251
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: seventy six and the costumes being okay in that one.

1252
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: I've seen this movie. What but I didn't take note

1253
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: of the costumes being dumb? What was what was going on?

1254
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

1255
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So first of all, let's talk about

1256
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,839
Speaker 3: the jabbos. Do you is I don't know if I okay?

1257
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: Soos the cravat okay, basically, so's the French word for it.

1258
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,839
Speaker 3: So in that movie is they're just comical. They're big,

1259
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: lace and puffy and like clearly the kind of like

1260
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 3: Halloween store velcrode on lace jebou, which is they're just

1261
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: so inaccurate because actually, so John Adams costume in that

1262
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: is probably I think one of the more accurate ones,

1263
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 3: where his cravat is tight and it kind of comes

1264
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 3: at the center of his vest if you if you

1265
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: look at the photos, he's also like wearing a pretty

1266
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: simple brown linen suit.

1267
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: John Adams played by William Daniels aka mister Foene from me.

1268
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 3: Isn't that fucking crazy?

1269
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 2: Yes? And he's still alive.

1270
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I love it. I love it. So I tried

1271
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 3: watching it. I had to stop at one point because

1272
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't get through this. So the

1273
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 3: other guys, first of all, their hair is all like

1274
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 3: it's very seventies. It's like someone puts seventies hair and

1275
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: then like stuck a ponytail on it. Yeah, like it's

1276
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 3: very seventies. A lot of like the fabrics is they're

1277
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 3: just so like, Yes, they wore brocades, and they wore

1278
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 3: like more fancy and I think the Southerners would have

1279
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 3: been a little more fancy than the Northerners. So like

1280
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 3: in New England, so like John Adams, you know, the

1281
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 3: Rhode Island, the Delaware, Maine, You're gonna get more plain

1282
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 3: looking clothing, right because you've got Puritan backgrounds just also

1283
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 3: like what's available. And but if you go south, you've

1284
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 3: got these big, very wealthy I mean Virginia is like

1285
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 3: Virginia and South Carolina are like the money of the

1286
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 3: Revolution and of the Crown. So you've got a lot

1287
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 3: of money people and they're wearing more of the fancy clothes.

1288
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 3: But I would say the Sam Adams HBO does a

1289
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 3: way better job of the of the costuming. But yeah,

1290
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: the lace is just like, no one fucking wore these

1291
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: big like napkins on their chest that were like blades covered,

1292
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 3: so that I hate that. And also to these they're

1293
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 3: just like the the dresses of the dresses. The suits

1294
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 3: just look like costumes. Like a community theater came together

1295
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 3: and was like, well we got to make twenty seven.

1296
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 3: You know, jackets and waistcoats or wiskets as they're called,

1297
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 3: and they're just like comical. They're just like so bad.

1298
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 3: And then the female the one so in the movie,

1299
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: Thomas Jefferson's wife comes to see him.

1300
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: Because of him. Remember the bone in the.

1301
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 3: Movie, Yeah, Jefferson can't write the decoration Independence because he's

1302
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 3: so horned up. He's got plumped to his eyeballs. I mean,

1303
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 3: he has to get it out. So his wife shows

1304
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: up and the dress she's wearing is a fucking monstrosity.

1305
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 3: There's almost nothing historically accurate about this dress that maybe

1306
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: the neckline is accurate, but it's this big fucking tool

1307
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 3: like tool shit, and her hair is all it's just like,

1308
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is this? What am I watching? This

1309
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 3: is not accurate at all? And then it takes me

1310
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 3: out of it and I can't enjoy the thought of

1311
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 3: them boning.

1312
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now it's funny because I feel like, you know,

1313
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: it's inaccurate because it feels kind of seventies ish because

1314
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,440
Speaker 2: that's what you know, that's when it came out. But like,

1315
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 2: what did you think about a movie like mari Antoinette,

1316
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: which to me feels very of its time too, or

1317
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: even like kind of like an eighties influence on it.

1318
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: But is that more historically accurate with the costumes?

1319
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: I think so. I think though that there were like

1320
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 3: the marine tonomen was like there's nods to it, Like

1321
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 3: it's not telling you we're accurate, it's saying that like

1322
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: I'm doing an interpretation of a of a sixteen year

1323
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: old girl who becomes queen, right, and like and how

1324
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: that relates to my sixteen year old soelf. Like with

1325
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 3: the Chuck I remember there was like a poster she

1326
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: wore Chucks or something. That's to me, it's like more

1327
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: subversive because it's like saying I'm this, and I feel

1328
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: like with seventeen seventy six it was just like here's

1329
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 3: some bad costumes. Yeah, yeah, here's here's some poor ooh,

1330
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: it's fun. But also to that is that the seventies

1331
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: so okay. So I also love just history of cost

1332
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 3: of fashion in general. The sixties and the seventies is

1333
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 3: eighteenth century. So in the sixties the Matyr you had

1334
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 3: like these big updos of the women, right, which are

1335
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: like a memory of the eighteenth century big wigs that

1336
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: they would wear. You had like the square neck lines,

1337
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 3: you had like like some of the long dresses were

1338
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: like maybe like later eighteenth century the empire waste came back, right,

1339
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 3: that's a little more regency, but we're still like of

1340
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 3: that era, so like these are nods to that era.

1341
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,839
Speaker 3: So I think when that came out in seventeen seventy

1342
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 3: two or seventies, yeah, I think you still have like

1343
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 3: like there was kind of like an eighteenth century vibe

1344
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 3: like men wore men were wearing cravats again, right, like

1345
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 3: you have men of that time wearing like cravats in

1346
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 3: just in fashion and having like a call to the

1347
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: eighteenth century. Also too, I believe it's very interesting is

1348
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 3: that that was what this enny not when America was

1349
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 3: two hundred years old.

1350
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like in the seventies. Yeah, that's what

1351
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: Daisy confused is about, right, is when they celebrate.

1352
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: So you have so that's an inspiration that's inspiring fashion

1353
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 3: of the time as we're celebrating America's two hundredth anniversary,

1354
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: and so this eighteenth century style kind of comes back

1355
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 3: in the seventies, and it's the same as actually happening

1356
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 3: now if you're looking at fashion, because we're about to

1357
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 3: do the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. Even in just

1358
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: like I've watched seen like coach ads or like like

1359
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 3: advertisements and in fashion, the eighteenth century is coming back.

1360
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 3: So I think also too for me is I do

1361
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 3: love the I love the Enlightenment. I love that era,

1362
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 3: and I think that you know, some of those ideals

1363
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: can are are still used or you know, shape our

1364
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: world today. So I think it's important and also, who

1365
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 3: isn't loved to wear big fucking dress with big old

1366
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,799
Speaker 3: penness are the side the hip hip stuff and sometimes

1367
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 3: you want to show off your sick little calves.

1368
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean, just as a refresher for this conversation,

1369
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: I watched the Walking on Broken Glass music video. But

1370
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,560
Speaker 2: I love that video. Oh it's so good. I was like,

1371
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: I got to watch Dangerous Liaisons again.

1372
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, the time that John Malcovich was a sex symbol.

1373
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 3: What are we?

1374
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

1375
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just like I remember when that movie came out.

1376
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: I was like, again, I was in like middle school

1377
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: and it was such a big deal and everybody looked gorgeous.

1378
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember Michelle Pfeiffer. That movie was like stunning.

1379
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 2: Well, can you talk about your your history tonight shows?

1380
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,480
Speaker 2: Are you? Because you're in you're often costumed.

1381
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 3: Do you do a couple of costumed things? So I

1382
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 3: do this show called History Tonight where I play King

1383
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 3: George the Third and Canadians come and do bits as

1384
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: famous people from history, like their favorite history or historical figure.

1385
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: So and then my friend Rob Crean is George Grenville,

1386
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 3: who was the Prime Minister during the stampback there again

1387
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 3: deep cuts. Yeah, and so we just do a show

1388
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 3: where I do like, you know, late night current Event jokes,

1389
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 3: but as King George the Third, So it kind of

1390
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 3: like has fun little nods to history. And then I

1391
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 3: also do a character called the Baron von Steuben or

1392
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 3: Frederick Vilheim vun Steuben, who was America's first openly gay

1393
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 3: general of the American Revolution. Wow, this is a person,

1394
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 3: real person, openly gay, polyamorous in a threeple with his

1395
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,440
Speaker 3: aide de Camps, who were also in a gay relationship

1396
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,919
Speaker 3: before they met him. And his other assistants were Alexander

1397
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 3: Hamilton and John Lawrence, who were also in a gay relationship.

1398
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 2: Wow.

1399
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 3: And basically, and we're writing. Me and my friend Caleb

1400
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: are writing the play about him currently, so May third,

1401
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 3: if you're at the Allegian in La you can come

1402
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 3: see the first reading. Oh yeah. So it's kind of

1403
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 3: like a an ode to basically how the military is

1404
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 3: doesn't exist without queers, Like, we don't have a military

1405
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 3: without gay people, A gay people. A gay person is

1406
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 3: the reason we have a country, because we would have

1407
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 3: fucking lost every single battle we did. We sucked. And

1408
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 3: then Stoyman came in and kind of whipped people into shape.

1409
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: And also too, like there were immigrants, like He's Prussian,

1410
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 3: Hamilton's Caribbean, Like most of a lot of the generals

1411
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 3: were immigrants. It's just like America doesn't exist without gays

1412
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 3: and immigrants and foundationally literally from the foundation. And you

1413
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 3: know that is I think something that everyone we just

1414
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: don't think about. We'd forget that we are, you know,

1415
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: country of immigrants and hopefully hopefully you know, someone dies.

1416
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 2: Soon, some person out there. Well, this is amazing, Millie.

1417
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: Did you have anything else you wanted to No.

1418
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: I just love how knowledgeable you are about this, really

1419
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 1: fascinating because I have to admit, I'm like so bad

1420
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: about this, this entire thing like history.

1421
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 3: Okay, it is so niche and I don't know why

1422
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 3: anyone else would know it, but like, yeah, like I'm

1423
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 3: you know, I used to sew my own costumes. I

1424
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,560
Speaker 3: don't do that as much anymore, but like, yeah, I

1425
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 3: love it. I love it. I love the you know,

1426
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 3: I could talk about costumes all day. Like, there's so

1427
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: many different types of women's dresses you have, like the

1428
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 3: round dress, You've got the robe Francis, You've got the

1429
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: English robe and then you've got like a polonaise rode,

1430
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: Like there's just so many dresses, and then men have

1431
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: their own thing and it's all beautiful and wonderful, and

1432
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 3: I just get me out of here, Just.

1433
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: Get me out of trouble.

1434
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 3: Me send me to England and I'll just live in

1435
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 3: a little manor house by myself and wear my little breeches.

1436
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, buy my book Temptation at Tekondo Roga. Yes,

1437
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 3: part of the Pounding Fathers of the American Revolutions.

1438
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: That's so good. Is there anything else that's like coming

1439
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: up that you want people to check out?

1440
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 3: So you can see me live doing a live history

1441
01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 3: tonight in Boston or Cambridge at the Comedy Studio. And

1442
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: that's a special Patriots Day Colonial one because that's the

1443
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 3: week that likes It Didn't Conquer It happen, which is

1444
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 3: the first battle of the American Revolution. So we're doing

1445
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 3: a special Colonial one with a bunch of comics. Then

1446
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 3: on the eighteenth, I'm doing my one hour at my

1447
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 3: New Hour special that I'm recording at the studio. On

1448
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 3: the seventeenth, I'll be in Manchester, New Hampshire. Of April,

1449
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 3: we're also doing May first, I'll be in San Francisco

1450
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 3: at the at the Lost Church. And then May third

1451
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:40,799
Speaker 3: is the Illusion, the live reading of the drill Master.

1452
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: That's the play. I think we've decided.

1453
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 2: It's called That's a good Nay, that's a good title because.

1454
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 3: Either the Baron or the drill Master. I think we're

1455
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 3: gonna do the drill Master.

1456
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: That the drill Master is really good.

1457
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a good it's gonna be a

1458
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 3: great T shirt. That's great play, and you get a

1459
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 3: shirt that says the drill Master on it. Come on.

1460
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: Amazing. All right, Well, thank you so much, Jenny. This

1461
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: was so great chatting with you and honestly learning so

1462
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 2: much about Thank you.

1463
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 3: I just want every want to know I'm not a historian.

1464
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 3: I guess that they were wrong. Sorry, all right.

1465
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: Guys, don't email us. We don't want to hear any me.

1466
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get it. No one likes them. They're

1467
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 3: all bad people. Okay, I get it. Now, Just let

1468
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 3: me jerk off to John Andre in turn, if you

1469
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 3: guys have seen that television show, leave me alone. Okay.

1470
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: Well, that was a great chat with Jenny Zigrino on

1471
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 2: eighteenth century costumes. That was fun, amazing, I feel like

1472
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: I feel like I learned. I've been learned. Yeah, but

1473
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: we're moving on to employees picks film recommendations based on

1474
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,839
Speaker 2: the theme of the discussion. Millie, what do you recommend

1475
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 2: this week? Well?

1476
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: I could be like super duper esoteric and you know,

1477
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: tell you guys to watch some baseball movie from nineteen

1478
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: eighteen or something, but I was like, fuck it, I'm

1479
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 1: just gonna like tell you guys what my favorite baseball

1480
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: movie is of all time, and it is Moneyball from

1481
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: twenty eleven with Brad Pitt, Jonah Hill, Phillip Sewarah Hoffman, you.

1482
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 2: Know what I'm talking about.

1483
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: Directed by Bennett Miller, who sadly does not make more movies.

1484
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: He's good. I wish he made more. Damn.

1485
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: He hasn't made a movie since Fox Catcher in twenty fourteen,

1486
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: which is a movie I really like me too. He

1487
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: made Caponi, which is fantastic. He's made three features and

1488
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: one documentary and that is it.

1489
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah so, and that documentary is supposed to be really

1490
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 2: good too. The Cruise, Yeah so interesting. Come back home, Bennett,

1491
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: come back, must, come back home, please must.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why Moneyball is my favorite, I mean

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Speaker 1: When I say say my favorite movie, I mean, of course,

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Speaker 1: you know we talk about I've loved baseball since you know,

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Speaker 1: the late eighties, So there's many great baseball movies that

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Speaker 1: I love. Major League. I've seen Major League probably like

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Speaker 1: one hundred trillion times. But like I think Beats per Minute,

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Speaker 1: Moneyball is my favorite baseball movie because I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's chill, it's entertaining, it kind of talks about an

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Speaker 1: aspect of baseball that nobody really thinks about. And yeah,

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01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: and it's just sort of that that movie. I used

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01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: to call it like my comfort film or like my

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01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 1: Sunday Sunday afternoon, hungover on the couch movie. But yeah,

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01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, but I've been, I've been.

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Speaker 1: You know, this has been my ministry. Moneyball has been

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01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: my ministry for many years. So if you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: it by now, hell's wrong with you.

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Speaker 2: There you go. I love Moneyball. Great film. Billy b

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Speaker 2: My Wreck is. You know. I was gonna recommend Ephis

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01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: but I've talked about that movie. Noo oh, So I'm

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01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: I'm kind of half recommending that one. It is good,

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01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: but I'm recommending a movie. I don't know if this

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Speaker 2: movie is actually good, but it's gonna be my staff

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01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: pick anyway. Little Big League in nineteen ninety four. Now

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01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: this is like a kid's movie, but it's about the

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01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins. And Jason Robards is the owner of the

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01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins and he gives and he dies in the

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01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: movie and he gives it to his like twelve year

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01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: old grandson to be the owner of the team. And

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01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: so it's about this little kid who's the owner of

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01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Twins. Shot in the Twin Cities, takes place

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01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: at the Old Metrodome, which is like kind of a

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01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 2: famous field. And I don't know if this movie is

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01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 2: actually good, but I loved it as a kid. Well

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01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: and weird.

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01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, the lead actor in this film Luke Edwards.

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01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 1: Today is his birthday.

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01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: That is spooky. Happy birthday, Luke Edwards. Happy birthday. Happy

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01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: forty sixth birthday to Luke Edwards. Anyways, that's our show, Millie.

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01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 2: What a great chat. I feel like we really got

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01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: into it today. We had you went off on Dad's

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01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 2: which I liked, and then we talked baseball, We talked

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01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 2: to Jenny. It was a great, great show.

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01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, And if you want to email us

1535
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 1: for any reason. You can do so at Dear Movies

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01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: at exactlyrightmedia dot com. Usually, we you know, give out

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01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: some film advice. If you have a gripe, a grope

1538
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: or a gret, please write in and again Deer Movies

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01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: at exactlyrightmedia dot com. Also, you can leave us a

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01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: voicemail that we could play on the show. If you

1541
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: do that, just make sure it's under a minute and

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01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: email it to the same place, Deer Movies at exactly

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01:25:58,600 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: rightmedia dot com.

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01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 2: That's right. Please follow us on our socials at Deer

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01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,840
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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,120
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1547
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and rate

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01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: and review the show. It helps helps to get the

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01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 2: word out there. Millie. What are we talking about next week?

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01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: Let's see we are watching.

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01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: Finally, finally, we've been talking about this forever? Is this

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01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: thing On? From twenty twenty five directed by Bradley.

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01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 2: Cooper another one of his films. We are going to

1554
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: cover every film he ever makes, and I think this

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01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 2: is the one he did some second camera on. Remember

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01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: we talked about that where he was doing operate, some

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01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 2: camera operating, but.

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01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: Then I noticed that he's in it, so he couldn't

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01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: stay away.

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01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: For too long. He probably wasn't operating on the scenes

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Speaker 2: that he was in, if I'm guessing.

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Speaker 1: It's also the name of a pretty good promise ring song.

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Speaker 1: Who ever heard that song?

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01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: No, I haven't look. I keep thinking the name of

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01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: this movie is is this on? But it is this

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Speaker 2: thing on?

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01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: Anyways, I am so excited to suck about this movie

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01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: because I think it's going to bring out some heightened emotions.

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01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet Okay, that's it.

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01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see you guys next week.

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01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production hosted by me

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Speaker 1: Mili to Cherco and produced by my co host Casey O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Tom bryfocal. Our associate producer

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01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and

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01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac Are Incredible.

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Speaker 1: The music is by the best band in the entire world,

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Speaker 1: The Softies.

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01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 2: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgarriff, Georgia Hardstark,

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01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer and Millie to Jericho.

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01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 3: We love you.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye Beker