WEBVTT - ANDREW CALLAGHAN GIVES ADVICE AS A GECKO 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:02.600 How's it going, man, I'm good man. How you doing, 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.880 I'm doing good. How does it feel to be a lizard? 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.440 It's great, man, I like the hands. Yeah, it's an 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:11.920 honor to be here. I'm a huge fan. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:14.360 Thanks. I'm a huge fan of you. I'm a huge 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.360 fan of you. You're the can I tell you. You're 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:18.360 a guy who I always look at. I'm very inspired 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.400 by you. Like when I see you like zooming around, 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.400 I'm like, man, that looks fucking sick. I'm inspired by 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.400 how you are able to help these people. Thanks, man. Yeah, 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:32.080 what has been the most persistent thought on your mind lately? 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:40.440 If it? If I want to do serious stuff? Yeah, 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.479 if I want to do funny stuff? Yeah, which direction 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.160 I want to lean in? Yeah? Are you? Uh? What's 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.519 driving you towards each what's driving to make funny stuff? Then? 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.320 What's driving you to make serious stuff? Funny stuffs more marketable? 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:53.639 Yeah? 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.560 You can put funny stuff on t shirts and ye 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.800 can go on World Star Hip Hop Twitter and everyone 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.840 will comment the crying emojis on TikTok. But the serious 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.880 stuff takes something from you. It takes a lot out 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:09.080 of you. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.039 Really, do you get like emotionally exhausted on the serious stuff. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:15.680 But do you look back at it and you're just 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:20.160 like really glad that you, like you went to these places? Definitely? 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.960 Does it ever feel like not real? Like you will 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.080 go and you'll film, like when you went into your 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.440 film in Ukraine, and you look back on the place, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:29.920 I feel like it didn't happen, Or do. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:34.800 You really I've been dissociating steadily, you know, struggling with 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.440 associations since I was like twelve thirteen, since I started 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.960 smoking weed in middle school. I think, and uh, yeah, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.920 everything feels a bit surreal, But I actually feel more 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.440 alive and more real the more I put myself like 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.000 on the pulse of news events and what's going on, 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.560 because it provides a level sense of grounding. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.720 Does it feel more real because it's happening to everyone 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.600 at so you kind of almost folk you're a part 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:02.040 of something. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.560 I think being a journalist, like a frontline journalist, is 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:10.200 like an antidote to dissociation and derealization. Really, you're somewhere, 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.640 you know, like Ukraine or something, and you're there and 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.880 you're seeing stuff going on, and you're working, and then 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.400 you check your phone or you check Instagram, and everyone's 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.720 posting about that, right, So you are there, You are real. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:23.840 That makes perfect sense. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.040 Actually, in the timeline, a shared timeline and a shared 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.080 space with other human beings, independent minds interwoven into the 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:33.240 same timeline. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.320 Of course, you feel like you're part of the thing 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.440 that everybody is. You're on a wedding ball with others. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.400 Whereas if you have a you know, like a corporate 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:48.160 job or kids you don't like, then you sort of 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.720 feel like you're living in a surreal Truman Show style 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.440 infinite time warp. Do you like to spend a lot 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.080 of time like by yourself. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.840 I'm an only child with divorced parents, so some of 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.440 my earliest memories are, you know, throwing a ball against 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.519 the wall as fast as I can, trying to get 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:11.120 top speed. But yeah, you know, when you're an only child, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:11.840 you have. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.000 To force yourself to spend a bunch of time alone. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.480 So I do like to spend time alone, but I'd 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.360 rather be with my best friends than alone. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.480 Do you consider yourself an introvert versus versus an extrovert? 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:24.840 What's your take on that? 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.880 Well, I would say that I'm an extroverted introvert. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.280 There's a do you ever hear the word ambivert. I 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:30.960 heard it once. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:32.720 When I heard that, I was like, that's a great 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.800 I used to date someone who was into astrology. Yeah, okay, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.960 moon signs cycles and whatnot, and I was described as 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.760 a Taurus ambavert. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.360 When you, uh, what's what's your sign? Taurus? Yeah? Okay. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.360 So when you like go on the website and you're 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.040 looking at all the things that it says that a 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.160 Torus is supposed to be, do you look at NGO 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.600 that does sound like me? Or is it? Yeah? Charismatic 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.800 but stubborn. Charismatic with stubborn, likes to eat but not 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:02.320 too much. Okay, that's me. What do you like to eat? 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:08.080 Panda express? The two entrees in one side. I like 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.120 orange chicken and the specialty item, which is honey walnut shrimp. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.080 But the thing is, it's got to be hot. Off 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.480 is skillet where the kind of flaky golden stuff on 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.920 the outside starts to melt down and it becomes disgusting. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.760 It's annoying. They actually charge you with like seventy five, 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.320 like a dollars seventy five extra for the honey walnut trimp. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.320 Honey walnut shrimp and Angus pepper steak or premium charge 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:29.400 of one twenty five love. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.800 I go to Pan Express all the time. I'm three 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.479 to four a week. Really, yeah, what is the breakdown? 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.120 You get the honey walnut shrimp and then well. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.200 If I'm really feeling myself, I'll do the honey walnut 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:43.400 shrimp and then orange chicken together. But that's an unhealthy 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.080 combination because they're both covered in you know, sugary sauce. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.719 So if I wanted to really do the right thing, 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.520 I did brown rice and super greens. For the entrees, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.919 I'd get a split of kung pou chicken and orange 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.000 chicken because kung paw is very vegetable dominant. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.640 Do you eat healthy? I have at times. I used 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:00.279 to be like. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.680 A paleo guy. I did the paleo diet in college. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.880 I lost forty five pounds when I was a freshman 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:13.160 in college just off of paleo lifestyle. Almonds, kale, you know, raws, salmon, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:15.159 white claw. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.600 When you're zooming all over the place and doing your thing, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.039 and like, you know, when you were on the RV 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.080 and everything, were you how were you were you eating 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.920 healthy or was that even like was what you were 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.080 putting in your body like secondary to like the work 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:27.520 you were doing. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.200 You know. I think the time in the RV was 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:33.440 the ultimate descent into unhealthy you know eating habits. Yeah, 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.880 because it was so many different gas stations, and you 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.240 know every gas station has the same stock basically, Yeah, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.440 of course. So you know it went from you know, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.679 trail mix and beef jerkey, and then it just gradually 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.560 went to pork rynes and pop tarts, and then it 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.000 got to the point where I was eating like pickles 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.720 in a bag and too ketos and. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:56.039 You into tornadoes. No, what's that? I think it's the 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.880 off brand ta Keto. Well it's the same concept. Yeah, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.039 same concept. It's like meaty, cheesy thing wrapped in a 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.400 what is that? What kind of bread is that? You know? 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.479 You know the thing that I really like about being 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:10.919 on the road is that you kind of have an 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.440 excuse to eat shitty. Yeah, so you can justify the 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.280 shitty food choices that you make a little bit more 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:18.160 than when you get home. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.360 Yeah, Like if you're in Oklahoma or one of those 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.960 you know, barbecue states, Yeah, it's a rite of passage 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.479 to eat barbecue, you know, But if you're eating mac 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.159 and cheese and baby back ribs, you know, twice a day. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.880 For more than a few days, you can develop diabetes. Yeah, 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.400 I'm scared about getting diabetes because I definitely I eat 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.400 the way that, Like, it would be unfair if I 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.039 didn't get diabetes. What do you eat mostly I eat? 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.600 I eat a lot of Pana express. I almost exclusively 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.840 eat out, Like I don't have any plates or forks, 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.640 or do you like uber eats or do you like 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.760 the experience of being waited on? Well, uberries is just 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.800 like it's it's unsustainably expensive because every eat meal is 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.640 like forty five dollars. Yeah, how much do you tip? 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.920 The drivers typically typically tip like, you know, fifteen twenty percent. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.359 I'm a fifteen percent guy too, because I used to actually, 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.440 you know, ride my bike around when I was living 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.320 in New Orleans and college and I was in Uber 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.000 Eats bicycle career, you know, and they never tipped me anything, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:12.720 but I used to ask them for tips when I 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.160 dropped it off. I want to ask you something in 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.640 your in your personal life, when you're like just talking 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.840 to people, do people ever like think you're like, oh, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.240 are you doing the thing where you're interviewing me? Right now? 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:25.400 Do you people say that to you? 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.440 Yeah, I think that like my interview style, which is 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.960 just like agreeability and like trying courage a deep dive course, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.080 I do that in my day to day life. So 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.720 sometimes people feel like they're on the show. But my 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.920 eyes are the cameras. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.640 Which came first, like the the the did did the 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.560 things like this agreeability in your conversation? Did that come 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.000 before or after you you were interviewing people. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.560 I think it came way before, you know, because you know, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.320 when I when I was twelve thirteen, I wanted to, like, 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.360 you know, I grew up in Seattle, so I wanted 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.240 to smoke weed every day, but I would feel that 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.720 my mom would catch me if I was anywhere where 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.920 I could be seen by the public. So I would 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.520 go under bridges into train tunnels, which I now realize 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.240 were mostly you know, like heroin injection sites, and I 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.960 would just get high on weed while users of other 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.080 drugs got high on their drugs, and I would just 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.760 talk to them for hours stone listening to the tragedies 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:26.520 and triumphs of kind of like dejected people in that way. 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.400 So you were getting your hours in even off camera, 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:30.880 of like talking to. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.000 People are like, how do you withstand listening to such 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:36.720 crazy shit all the time. I think that I've always 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.640 sought it out because I'm interested by it. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.440 Do you are you motivated by the idea of like 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.600 being eighty years old and looking back on your life 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.480 and being like, we fucking did it? Yeah? 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.040 Definitely, because I want to have grandkids who are like 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.199 watching videos of you know, myself when I was their 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.360 age and being like, Wow, my grandpa was freaking crazy. 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.880 How cool would that be? Because I don't have videos 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.560 of my grandpa. All I have are you know, old pictures? 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.880 Are you gonna have kids? I want to have kids 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.959 real bad. What's a good age for you to have kids? 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.160 You think eight twenty eight, that's coming up. That's like 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:09.840 three that's like three years, three years away. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.800 But that way you can still connect with your kids, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:13.680 you know, like my parents have me when they were 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.600 twenty five. Yeah, we're pretty close, whereas I have friends 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.080 with super old parents and they couldn't be further from 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:19.480 each other. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.120 But do you feel like you'll still be able to 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.480 like live the kind of lifestyle like what you're living now, 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.120 like with you when you have kids? Because I feel 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.920 like you can kind of do whatever. You can bum 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.079 around and like go places and like you're kind of 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.240 you're free until you either like go to jail or 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.000 you like get somebody pregnant and have a child. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.959 Yeah, now that you put it that way, maybe I 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.120 don't want to have kids because that would limit my 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:42.199 freedom of movement. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.800 Or I could just get a sick ass caretaker. You 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:45.760 could get a sick as stakes. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.760 If I became like a millionaire or like a multimillionaire. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.080 If I keep going that way, I could hire like 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.920 a super sick ass full time nanny. You could, you know, 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.400 but then the kid might realize that I didn't like, you. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.480 Know, take care of it while I was crying and 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.120 the infant stage, and just develop like a long term resentment. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:01.760 You know. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.160 My dream is I want to be a divorced dad 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.600 and like, you know, I get custody like every once 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:08.160 in a while. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.760 Now whenever you want to be a divorced dad, yeah, 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.480 Do you want to be a cool divorced dad is 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.480 like let's go to game Works and six Flags? Or 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.160 do you want to be like a dejected sort of 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.440 alcoholic bus stop. 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.240 No, I'll be a cool divorced dad. Yeah, Like I'll 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.079 like fifty to fifty that way, Like, you know, you 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.160 have your on time when you're with the kids, and 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.240 then they'll go to their mother's house and then yeah, I. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.040 Could see you being a super cool divorced dad. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:30.800 Thanks. Man. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:32.200 What kind of stuff would you want to do with 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:33.760 your kid? Like, how would you show the kid that 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:34.720 you're cooler than his mom? 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.760 I would, I feel like I wouldn't be competitive like 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.480 I would. I would want to have a good relationship 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.920 yea with the mom. I wouldn't, you know. I think 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.760 I would want them to you know, I would try 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.480 to talk to them kindly and positively, and I would 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.600 want them to, you know, grow up to do that 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.480 to other people. It's a boring answer. I should have 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.320 said something like six flags. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.280 Or no, that's going to be a crazy life. Like Dad, 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.360 what were you doing when you were you know, before 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.760 I was born? Yeah, you're like having a lot more fun, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.200 Like I'll shut her up like a lizard and talk 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.840 to people with stuff to say. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.640 You want to take some phone calls? I'm down. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.960 This is such an awesome concept. Ye, So for those 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.240 who don't know, thus far, there has been no caller audio, 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.600 but it's being fixed For an update, we just talked 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:26.000 to our homie Kyle. He's at the gym Beautiful currently 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.120 and he's calling in Cairo. Can you tell us a 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.560 little bit about why you're calling in today? 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.840 Sorry, it's okay. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.480 So basically I've been watching show for a while and 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:46.200 I've been having this question in my head. So basically, 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.200 my girl and I've been together for about a year 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.960 and a half. You know, everything's great. I love her 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.960 very much. You know, everything's fine, But this is one 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:00.360 issue is that she doesn't give your head and I. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:00.880 Don't know to do. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.480 When is the last time that that happened. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:09.880 Like like she didn't want to give me. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:14.080 Head or option too? 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:20.000 Oh uh. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:25.199 I mean it was like a month to or ago maybe, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.360 but it was more like I asked for it and 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.320 then she didn't even you know, she didn't even like 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:34.120 want to do it. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.560 She just kind of did it because I kind of asked. 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.600 But I don't really ask like that, Like I don't 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.080 bother her, you know what I mean. It's just like, 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.000 you know, sometimes I just want to be pleased just 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.000 the way I please her, you know. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:50.640 So just curious, what are your favorite things about your girlfriend? 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:52.320 On the positive note. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.720 No, yeah, I mean a bunch of positives. Well, she's 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.400 very independent. First off, I've been with other relations ships 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.240 where girls are very dependent and it's like very toxic 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:07.880 in a way. So she's very independent. She's she's very studious. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.360 She goes to college and stuff. So I mean at 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.160 the end of the day, she has a plan for herself. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.040 And I feel like that's what I you know, I 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.040 love her about her most is that, Yeah, independency, I 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.199 guess mm hmmm. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.440 And you say that I just want to be you 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.280 say that you you say that you give her head 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:26.720 as well? How often does that occur? 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:29.080 Oh? 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.120 Man, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.080 I'm more of a pleaser, so I do it often. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.000 I mean basically every time we either do it or 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:42.240 every other time. I mean we and we do it 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.600 pretty often. I would say weekly. This is a girl 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.559 will be like joking about it. Well, I mean we 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:50.040 have sex. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:57.120 Yeah, ok, Sorr, I just have to clarify that. Well, 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.480 well but yeah, I mean like so, well, well, let's cayrol. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:07.720 If you're a pleaser, wouldn't yeah, would you want to 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.960 be probed? Wouldn't you be happy just pleasing? Why do 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.680 you need this in your life. Why do you feel 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.160 like you need this to be an added part of 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.880 your sexual experience? Hmmm. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.240 Good, it's a good question. And I've been asking myself 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.600 that too, because like it's I feel like it's very 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.600 selfish of me, you know, like that one thing is 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.560 just like that bothers me, you know, and it's like 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:30.640 I don't know what I do about it. But I 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.840 mean to answer your question, I guess the way you feels. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.280 I mean, like I guess like, yeah, sex is cool, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.000 but honestly, like I like had more occasionally, I'm not 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:47.440 gonna lie. So yeah, it's very very weird talking about 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.160 public sitting right now, but like, yeah, just be straight up. Yeah, 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:50.840 I don't know why. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.720 Well, thank you for being so honest and open about this. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.720 Do you think that maybe you know, she is not 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.400 doing that because she wants you to sort of progress 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.840 and advance your your life in some way. So maybe 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.560 that's awaiting you down the line as some kind of 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:13.360 reward for you after you make developments in your physique 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:13.920 and career. 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:15.400 She wants you to earn it. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.120 Yeah, maybe it's sort of a subtle indication like hey, kay, Cairo, 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.800 you got to step it up and you'll know that 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.440 you've hit that level when you know in return you 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:26.760 receive what you've been asking for. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:28.400 What do you think about that? 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:29.960 I mean, I do what you're saying. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:31.440 I get what you're saying. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.640 You know, you're saying like maybe I'm not maybe I'm 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.400 not doing enough, or maybe I'll maybe she's not pleased 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.000 with me. But honestly, like that, I don't. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:38.600 Think that's the case. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.320 Like I asked her why she doesn't do it, and 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.360 she just basically says like she doesn't enjoy it, Like 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.440 even before I got with her, she's had previous boysens 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.200 and she's like she just was really never into it. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:52.920 And I mean, I mean, I don't know if this 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.080 comes to the topic of why she doesn't. But she 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.680 told me like she's also by and she doesn't like 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.600 she basically hates men except for me, she told me. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.680 And I get that. And I mean, like, it's not 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.240 like she doesn't do it, like oh my gosh, she 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.200 never does it. It's just like I don't feel like 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.600 she just doesn't want to or I don't know, it's 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.040 very hard to explain. I just want to see what 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:15.880 your thoughts on it. Maybe I don't know, I don't 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.880 want to break up with her, but like, if this 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.960 is going to be a problem, even if I want 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.440 to marry her, you know, like, yeah, I don't want 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.440 to be miserable, you know what I mean, like long term, 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:26.480 long time. I'm thinking long term. 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:27.600 I'm young. I'm only twenty. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.640 Yeah, so in college, you know, Yeah, what. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:33.480 Were you going to tell them, majem? 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:34.840 I was just going to say, I mean, you know, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.400 some people don't like Chinese food. You know, some people 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.440 don't like some people prefer different types of food. I mean, 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.080 if it's not her thing, man, it's not her thing, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.920 it's not something that she enjoys, then you're probably not 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.160 going to be able to change that. And you know, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.920 I can't tell you what you know what to do, 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:56.000 but it doesn't necessarily have to be sexual or anything. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.480 But if you're super bummed about something like that and 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.440 it's not gonna to change, then I mean you might 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:03.000 have to move on. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.639 Yeah. Well, I mean you were had him go through 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.720 at the very beginning of this, all the positives of 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.760 the relationship and all the other things. So I mean, look, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.800 relationships are a constant give and take. 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.120 Yeah, and if it makes you feel that bad. And 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:23.399 you know that that's pretty telling, you know, if it 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:28.399 makes you feel like roommates to have a roommate. I 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.479 used to have a roommate who never washed the dishes, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.240 and so you know, I moved out because I didn't 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:35.240 want to make a short chart. 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.320 So you might have to move out or make some 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:42.280 kind of chart. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:47.240 Don't make a chart, yeah, I mean, I mean I might. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.000 I mean to imployment a chart. I mean, I don't 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:50.359 know how. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:51.560 About that I was. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.159 I was not being remotely serious about the art. Definitely, 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:00.200 definitely do not don't make to make a chart. Don't 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:00.720 make the chance. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.199 Oh oh, I mean I've probably been like maybe like 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:04.920 a like a schedule. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:08.760 Of no no no, no no no no no, that's okay, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:10.480 we're vetoing the schedule. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.919 I would not suggest sharing a Google calendar document with 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.680 certain days with the egg plant emogi on them. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.719 Don't do that. Avoid that. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.040 No, I use the I'm more of a banana Moji 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:21.640 type of guy. 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:22.440 That egg clap. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.400 Okay, Hey, kyro, is there anything you want to tell 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:26.760 the people of the computer before we go? 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.600 I mean, honestly, I didn't even expect to be on 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.960 I swear like this is just a problem I've been 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:34.800 having for months. I've been listening to your podcasts for 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.439 so long. I just want to see what you thought. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.719 But for the people, I mean, like you get said, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.520 if you need to move out, you need to move out. 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.840 I guess that goes with any uh situation in your life. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.560 If things are not going your way, you can either 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.639 stay there or you can just pack your bags and 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.720 move out and see better things. I guess you know. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:01.159 Yeah, we hope you make the right decision. Kyron Cairo, Yeah. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.320 Yeah, Tyrol, thank you, and Andrew. I love you man, 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.640 Uh love your videos and love. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:12.960 You take love you guys, love you too. Wow. He 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.960 was so kind. He was actually you know, warm warm 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:16.840 my heart a little bit. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.840 Yeah, you know, because it's so interesting that people call 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.800 here that vulnerable. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:22.680 Yeah. 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.880 I think it's like, oh my god, no one does 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.720 that to me, really they do. 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:27.480 But you know, I got to. 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.960 Put myself in the right position in person, you know, 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.880 to just call a line like this, knowing that there's 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.159 you know, how many people watch this, uh. 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.840 With the podcast it's like a few hours. 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:42.160 Yeah yeah, ye that takes some confidence, so shout out 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:42.960 to him. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.840 Interesting. So do you feel like it's uh because well, 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.480 here we have the anonymousness, and it's a way different situation, 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.720 like because the people that are calling, they're like they're 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.960 on their own home base. They're like laying in their 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.959 bed at their house, like their their names and their 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.440 faces aren't there. But like you know, with what you're 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.480 doing when people you have the camera and they're like 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.359 on the spot. Do you think that he used a 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.600 fake name? I don't. I don't some of these guys, 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:09.800 I don't know if it occurs to them to use 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:10.879 a fake name. That's what I would do. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:12.720 Yeah, now that I think about it, if it was 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.000 a fake name and I didn't give any like super 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.560 obvious details tipping people off that it was me, if 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.160 they knew me, I would call here and to shut out. 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:21.919 So now that I get it, it's kind of a 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:22.680 dope concept. 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.160 Yeah, I feel like the I mean it's quasi anonymous 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:27.919 because you know, people can't give them but they give 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:28.440 a fake name. 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:28.800 Yea. 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.280 And I feel like the anonymous has definitely empowers people 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.239 to like be vulnerable a lot more. Should we take 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:44.520 another one? Hello? Hey, hey man, you're on the show. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:52.360 Oh yeah, this is so exciting. Hi, Lyle and high Andrew. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:53.800 How you doing, man, how's it going? Man? 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:00.680 It's it's I'm in a situation right now, but it's 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:02.240 better now that you called. 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.359 Can you tell us a bit about the situation that 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:06.320 you're currently in? 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:14.399 Okay, long story short. I was leaving town and my 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:18.119 car started making some weird noises and doing all this 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.399 mechanical stuff. So I turned around to go back into 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:24.879 town to drop my car off at the place I 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:29.040 had it recently worked on, and I explained to them everything. 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:34.400 And I lived three hours away from this said town, 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:39.840 you know, so my only rescue is my uncle right now. 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:41.560 And I called him if he could come and pick 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.720 me up, and he's like, okay. And I think that 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.320 was about an hour and a half ago. And the 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.879 shop closes at six pm, and so I gave the 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:51.960 mechanic my keys, and I said, all right, I'm away 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:53.800 in my car. So I waited my car and I 0:21:53.960 --> 0:22:00.680 fell asleep and then oh no, oh man, and they 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.120 they locked the yard up. So I'm locked in here. 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.119 But it's okay though, because I'm on therapy. 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:11.159 Jeto, you're locked in the yard, and is your uncle still? 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.160 I kind of got lost a little bit with the timeline. 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.320 Is your uncle on the way or did he miss 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:16.879 you and you have to spend the night in the yard. 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.199 He's curling on the way, and I'm gonna have to 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:26.000 jump this barbed wire fence and go on about the 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:26.720 rest of my night. 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.360 Is it barbed wire or is it razor wire? Can 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:31.359 you take a closer look? 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:39.440 Let me see, let me look at It's okay, it's 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:40.639 jumpableth it's simple. 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.720 Well, if if you're worried about scraping your hands or 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.719 knees or whatever, take the carpet from under your feet 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.160 where you sit when you drive, Take your carpet from 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.240 the floor of the car, throw it over the barbed 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.919 wire so you can grab on and use the leverage 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:57.600 and just vault yourself over. 0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.880 Oh definitely. And if anything, I can dig under it. 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:07.200 If I would not suggest digging a hole or tunnel 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.000 under the barb wire fence, it might take you a 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.439 long time, you know. 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.360 Wait, do you have food and water? Man? 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:16.679 I actually have a whole case of water in my 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.119 car because I use that to work out after work 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:21.040 during the week. 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.320 Lucky, lucky man. That's convenient. 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.760 Well, man, I hope that your uncle comes in time. 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:31.200 It's a good thing. That's you know, non electric, non 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:32.440 razor barbed wire. 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:34.000 Use that carpet. 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:39.400 Find your I'll find out if it's electric or not goth. 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:40.760 Is there anything you want to say to the people 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.480 of the computer or to me or Andrew before we go. 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.000 Yes, definitely. I would like to say that I am 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:53.760 the first Navajo to successfully call into therapy, Get go. 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.160 Congratulations. Are you in a New Mexico or Arizona right now? 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.760 I am in Arizona. That's where I reside. 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:09.840 And what is the closest are you off? I forty? 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:10.800 I am? Oh? 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:14.879 Yeah, I well, I am. I forty is about forty 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.840 five miles south of where I reside. 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.639 Okay, you're on the Arizona side. Oh okay, you live 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.160 north of ice forty. So do you live? 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.200 Yeah? 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.120 What's closer to your house? Flagstaff or gallop? 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.600 Gallop is closer. But I went. I drove all the 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.720 way to Farmington, New Mexico, which is three hours away, 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.640 because that's where I had to work done on my car. 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:46.240 So you're stuck. You're stuck in northeast Arizona right now? 0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:50.560 Yes, sir, yep. 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:51.960 Thank you for calling. 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:52.080 Bro. 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:56.639 I wish you the best for real Take Care of GOS. 0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:02.040 Yeah, I am appreciate your show so much. It's really 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.520 helped me with my depression. And also, Andrew, I really 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.080 enjoyed Channel five. I just recently got done with the 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.159 hell Satan episode. 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:11.879 Thank you. 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.600 I appreciate it. What are your thoughts on those Satanists 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:15.120 in that video. 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:22.960 I believe they can do whatever they want. Anyone can 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.560 do whatever they want as long as they positive. 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:31.240 That's a wonderful message spoken like a true Arizona libertarian. 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.119 Take care Goth, Thank you. 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:36.440 Fuck Deven. 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:41.639 Man. He really like called the perfect person. You gave 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.280 him practical advice on how to get out of there. 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.000 Well, because I've once you said he was NAVO, I 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.080 know the boundaries of the reservation. Yeah, so I just 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:52.919 thought about where he was, because if he's off I forty, 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.359 you know, at like a quick trip or a you 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:59.879 know circle K or pilot flying Jay, he's not stuck. Yeah, 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.280 so he's probably in like a small talent on the reservation. 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:05.639 What did you tell him to do again? You told 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.239 him to take the carpet out from his car and 0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:11.439 wrap the barbed wire in there. Wrap the part of 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:15.320 the barbed wire that you plan to vault because that's smart. 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.840 Yeah, it just makes it so you don't cut yourself. 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:19.280 But barbs aren't too bad. 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:21.919 I want to I want to know how you learned that. 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:23.720 If you had to jump a lot of barbed wire 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:24.240 in your life. 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.720 Yeah, definitely, just periodically. It's not like I go around, 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.280 you know, doing an illegal parkour or anything like that. 0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:31.800 Right, dude, do you have your as that ever fucked 0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:32.120 you up? 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:32.240 Like? 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.879 Yeah, you know, you can get tetanus from the like 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:39.320 rusty barbs if it's an old fence. But yeah, I mean, 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.520 barb barbed wire is easy. It just sounds scary. 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:43.840 I'm I'm I'm happy you were able to give him 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:45.800 like a practical So a lot of the times people 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.080 call in here and I'm like, listen, I'm happy to 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.960 talk you through being locked in a in a auto yard, 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.359 but I don't think I have a practical solution for you. 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.280 But you gave him a very practical solution. Yeah, he seemed, uh, 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.880 he seemed stoked to that guy's that was awesome. Yeah, 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.720 fuk with him. Yeah, let's talk to Gabby from DC. 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.520 Gabby from DC, Hey, Gabby. 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.879 Oh my god, Hey, what's going on? 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:10.240 Gabby? 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:11.480 Mem Oh my god. 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.640 Hey, welcome to the show. 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:18.200 Gabby either Andrew either? 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.560 Awhile, what's up? 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.600 Notesn't much, just just chilling at home. 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.880 How are you guys doing good? We're doing good. We're 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:33.040 hanging out, it says here, Gabby, Gabby, can I can 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:34.760 I tell the people what you told the call screener? 0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:37.320 Yes, of course. 0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:41.919 It says here that you recently ghosted your dumb What 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:43.840 does that mean, Gabby? What does that mean? 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:54.840 Yeah? So I was in a dominant sub dynamic and 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.159 yeah for about three months. It was kind of my 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:03.640 first time trying it out. Cool for the most part, 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:09.440 but I definitely ghosted the guy a couple of weeks ago. 0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.720 So I don't know, I feel I feel kind of 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.879 bad about that. I feel like I just should have 0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:19.359 been upfront. 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.439 But out of curiosity. 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.440 Before we get into the whole ghosting thing, how does 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:27.840 one go about meeting another person to involve themselves in 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.920 a like BDSM subdom situation. 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.480 That is a great question. There's a lot of people 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:42.280 on tender actually, and uh, that's where I met this dude. 0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:49.360 And yeah, like his profile was kind of sketchy, a 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:54.160 little bit, not gonna lie, but you know, like he 0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.440 gave me a Snapchat and we kind of just started 0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.520 talking there and he was like, yeah, obviously, you know, 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.080 I hate for someone from my work to like find 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.440 me on here or something like that. 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.240 I'm sorry, can I Is there anything about his profile 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:16.600 in particular that set off like red flags of sketchiness, 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:17.440 you know. 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:18.360 In retrospect? 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.400 Not really, but I guess initially, you know, when people 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.760 don't have like pictures of their faces at all, and 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:26.440 their pictures it's kind of like, oh. 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:27.040 That's kind of weird. 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.920 Did you have a pictures of his face? No? 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:36.280 Not, not on his tender Yeah, okay. 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.440 So you gotta start talking. What was the first time 0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.400 that y'all hung out? 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:47.600 We hung out actually, like we talked mostly like over 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:52.720 text and on snapchat for about like three or four weeks, 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.840 so it was a while, Like we chatted a while 0:29:55.880 --> 0:30:01.920 before actually meeting up, and yeah, eventually met up. 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:03.320 Yeah. Cool. 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.760 First time was fun. You know, you guys had a 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:06.800 good thing going for a while. 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:09.479 Yeah, it was. 0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:10.240 It was cool. 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:16.480 It's definitely something new. Yeah, Like he has like a 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:22.000 certain specific set of rules for like subs, like entering 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.240 his house, which is like a whole thing, like but yeah, 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:26.120 it was it. 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:27.560 Was cool, it was gone. 0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.640 Can we get the lay down on the rules? Yeah? 0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:37.440 Yeah, so I gotta take off your clothes at the door, 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:45.400 and everything is yes, daddy, no, daddy, Thank you daddy. 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:50.080 And I mean those are pretty those are pretty much 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:50.720 the basics. 0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:51.280 I would say. 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.120 Now, is there some sort of punishment that's inflicted if 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.320 you break this code? 0:30:58.720 --> 0:30:59.080 Yeah? 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:03.720 Yeah, most of them more like I guess, humiliation type 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:09.600 punishments like doing jumping jacks naked or you know, something 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:10.120 like that. 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:14.239 You know that is humiliating, It actually would be. 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:20.280 Yeah, imagine you're somebody's like, you got you're pissing me off, 0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.440 take off your clothes and give me twenty I'd be 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.360 like Jesus Christ, Okay, so I got you. 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.880 Yeah, it was fun for a while. 0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.320 What prompted you to just decide to just ghost this 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:38.280 dude as opposed to giving him a courteous goodbye? 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.040 I think like over like the three months that we 0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:46.320 were hanging out and talking like and maybe I should 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.640 have been more upfront about this myself and retrospect, but 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:55.120 there was just a lot of give on my side. 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:59.840 I feel like I wasn't receiving much in the war, 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.840 you know, what I mean, Like it was just like, oh, 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.440 good girl, and like that's cool, Like that's always wanted 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:09.560 to hear. But you know it's I'm like, you gotta 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.440 get you know, some more than that. 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:13.960 Yeah, it's funny. Reminds me of the first color that 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.400 we had. Yeah, it was talking about how he wasn't 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.080 you know, definitely he didn't feel like he was getting 0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.880 what he was putting into the situation. Definitely did you 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:23.600 try to ask for like a little bit more out 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:23.800 of it? 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:31.720 I did, Like initially I was like, hey, like, you know, 0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.640 don't I deserve a reward for this or whatever? 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:40.120 You know? Is there like when you say a reward 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.560 when you say, is there like a specific thing that 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:51.320 you wanted him to do that he wasn't doing, not. 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:59.080 Even really specific, like I would say, like I don't know, 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:04.680 Like I don't know, maybe I get to maybe we 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.000 get to do it in like a position that I 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:12.160 prefer something or like that, like you know, being a 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:18.280 sub like you're I'm down in like I'm I'm excited 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:22.600 by like kind of stretching my limits and all that 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:23.280 good stuff. 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.160 But yeah, like I. 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:31.600 Don't know, sometimes you you want to like also, I 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.680 don't know, like, no, I hear you, So I have 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:35.760 your own desires met. 0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:39.080 Yeah, so we've established that he wasn't really holding up 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.240 his end of the of the bargain in this situation. 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:47.360 So what truly makes you feel bad about ghosting him? 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:47.920 You know what? 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.560 Why does that make you feel like something that you regret? 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:58.400 I feel like I think that if I like it's 0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.040 I don't know, if I were more were vocal and 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:06.400 maybe had like this whole conversation with him that like, 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:11.239 you know, we probably could have remedied the situation or 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:16.359 figured out, you know, how to how to like change 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.840 things around, you know, or maybe have some different rules 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:19.360 or whatever. 0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.520 Yeah, but you know, it's it's kind of hard, like 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.440 when you're when you're a sub part as part of you, like, no, 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.480 that's not my place in the like subdom dynamic to 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.120 like back up about what you want. Yeah, that's a 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.799 hard way to It's a hard thing to maneuver. Yeah, 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.040 because you have to be like end scene. Yes, you 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:40.560 have to be Yes, you have to be like let's 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.320 take out of let's get out of this for a second. 0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.799 I need you to dominate me this way, okay, three 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:46.440 two one. 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.200 Because being a sub doesn't mean, you know, being submissive in. 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.319 A healthy conversation, of course. Yes, of course, there's got 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:54.240 to be a point where you're. 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.000 Like, all right, we're done with our whole subdom thing, 0:34:57.160 --> 0:34:59.640 Like can you can you just be less of a dick? 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.160 You know, it's a hard it's a hard it's a 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:03.680 hard thing to man. 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.120 Yeah, what you're supposed to say, like shut the fuck up. 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.440 I mean like you're just don't say anything to me. 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.839 You're like, hey, it's really slowed down. Yeah, it's over. 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.160 We stop doing this, we stop doing the thing. Yeah, 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.560 you know what I mean. Yeah, I feel like the people, 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.440 like I feel like people in that community they have 0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.319 to have the ability to like, Okay, let's step out 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.960 of our roles for a second and like talk like adults, 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.799 get everything on the same page, and then we'll go back. Yeah. 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.320 Well, the BDSM people are like the most hyper aware 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:29.319 of that kind of stuff, of. 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.640 Course, yeah, because they have to be Communication, yeah, is 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.279 like the key for them. Yeah. 0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.439 Yeah, but I do think that, like the subdom thing, 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.120 I mean, I don't know anyone who's had that going on, 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:42.600 but it seems like it could work. 0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.200 You know, that was healthy communication. Are you going to. Okay, 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.200 So now that you've got this guy, Gabby, are you 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.080 going to like go back out and try to find 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:57.200 a new domb or are you taking a break? 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.319 You know, like I do want to get back out there. 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:05.760 I'm definitely gonna try that, and yeah, hopefully this time around. 0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.839 I don't know, like I think now that, like I've 0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.160 been talking to you guys about it, I realized that 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.120 we never had like those breaks. 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:19.000 You know, Yeah, you should. You should have had this conversation. 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.920 You should have had this conversation. You definitely should have listen. 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.799 You know, I'm curious when you say ghosted, Like how 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.440 many times has he texted you now to novel? 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:39.279 About seven times? And I just I just have not responded? 0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.600 Did do you? Is there like because you have okay, 0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.120 so you obviously care about this. You obviously feel like 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:49.239 a weird sort of moral conflict because if you didn't, 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.719 you would you wouldn't even be calling us right now. 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:56.640 So would reaching back out to him settle any like 0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.200 anxiety going on in your brain about the situation or 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.759 or do you just want to move past it? 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.000 I think I just want to move past it. I 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.960 feel like if I reached back out now, it'd be like, 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.439 you know, like what the fuck like it's been. It's 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.279 been a couple of weeks, so I don't think I'm 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.640 gonna like yeah. 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:20.680 I like to give you a piece of advice on this, 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.279 because obviously, if this guy is going out seeking some 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.839 seeking these kinds of arrangements, he should probably know where 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.520 exactly things went wrong so that he can be a 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.440 better dumb to other people in the future. So if 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.919 I was you, I would I know it's a getting 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.120 probably awkward, but this is the healthiest thing to do. 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.879 You don't have to do it is text him and say, hey, man, 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.600 you know I'm sorry that I've left you on red 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.120 seven times. There was a lot of points in our 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.719 in our arrangement where I felt like I wasn't really 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.839 getting what I wanted out of it, and I felt 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.520 like we should have had a better conversation. I had 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.200 a great time hanging out. For the time being, I 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.319 feel like doing my own thing now. I hope you 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.560 have a great rest of your life. Let me know 0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.200 if you're any sort of urgent circumstance that you really 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.080 need to talk to me or something, and I'll be 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:04.960 I'll be here for you. 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:09.040 That's beautiful. Yeah, what do you think about that, Gabby? 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.960 Yeah, I think I think I could definitely send something 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:18.080 like that. Yeah, I think I might do I think 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:19.000 I might just do that. 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:20.440 I appreciate that you should. 0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.640 Absolutely, I think it would make you feel better, and 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.640 I'm sure that it would make him feel better because 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.520 the problem with ghosting is that there's so many unanswered questions. Obviously, 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.000 you know, you opening up to us, we understand, you 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.799 know why that happened, but you know he's probably in 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:35.919 the dark thinking like, holy shit, what did I do? 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:37.839 You know what I mean, Like, why does this person 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:38.239 hate me? 0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:38.640 Yeah? 0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:40.440 He deserves some clarity as well. 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.319 Yeah, and he's a cool guy. I don't I don't 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.000 want to. 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:50.480 Yeah, you can send that text and then just block him, 0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:52.239 like you know what I mean? 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:53.239 Gabby? 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:53.480 Uh? 0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.919 Do you do you feel like in the future you'll 0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.759 kind of like, you know, start to adapt a little 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.120 bit more communication with the people that you, you know, uh, 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.120 engage with in this in this way? 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:12.759 Definitely? I think, like maybe because it was like my 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:18.080 first time trying something like that, I didn't really know like, oh, 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:21.719 can I like speak up really about this or you know, 0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.400 does this always have to be this way, so I 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.400 think like moving forward, Like I don't know, I I 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:34.360 definitely you know, see myself like having those conversations up front. 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:38.080 You know. Well, Gabby, thank you very much for being 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.799 vulnerable with us and taking us through the situation. Is 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.240 there anything that you want to say to the computer 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:43.879 before we go? 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.400 Love you guys, chat and love you Lyle and. 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.200 Andrew, Thank you, Mat, Thank you so much. It really 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.400 appreciates you opening up to us and coming on. Take care, Gabby. 0:39:59.440 --> 0:39:59.680 Bye. 0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.960 Wow, Gabby was really cool. She was really cool. It's 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.880 really sick. Yeah, I'm I'm I love a call where 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.680 like I feel like we all we all learned something. 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.799 Yeah, what I learned, especially too, Like I'm a I'm 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.200 a pretty confident person and you know, my job is 0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.640 like talking to people all the time. I'm super good 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.120 at being upfront and being like this is how I feel, 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.000 this is what I want. But there's a lot of 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.400 people out there who are afraid to, like you know, 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.040 really express their needs and once totally just kind of 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.400 let things sit and hope they figure themselves out. And 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.880 like I understand that, Like obviously those kinds of people 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.000 don't like confrontation, so they want to you know, keep 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.560 things smooth. But I think it's always healthy to just 0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.240 like figure out how to address something. 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.960 Do you, like, do you date people or are you 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.400 too like focused on on the career and. 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.800 What I'd like to you know, but my I guess 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.680 travel schedule, you could call it, the job that I 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:57.360 have makes it hard because you know, like I'm constantly 0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.360 moving around and I'm always gonna put. 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:00.719 Like that right now. 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.160 Of course, of course, down the line, I think it'd 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:07.160 be pretty sick to have like a monogamous wife type relationship. 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.360 At some point in my life. But yeah, I do 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.360 date here and there. Are you on like the Tenders 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.720 and stuff like that? Not really on Riyah. 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.400 I actually recently got accepted to Rayah, and I just 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.279 like went on to see if it was like real 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.840 deal celebrities. I was hoping it would be like the 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.640 the Beebers of the World totally, Carlie raid Jepson totally. 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.120 I don't even know what that is. But Lana del 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:32.000 Rey like Anne Hathaway. But it's just like a you know, 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:36.200 senior marketing advisors from Miami, and like, you know, I 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.880 guess that's like the girl equivalent of like a bitcoin 0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:39.760 crypto guy. 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.640 As a as a advisor, just someone who has manages 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:47.320 and represents influencers. Is there like a type of person 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.719 you're looking for, or like the type of person you 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.120 feel like you jive with well in a relationship. 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:56.279 Oh, like like city people. City people, Yeah, like people 0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:59.160 who move fast, think fast, confident city walkers. 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.600 Do you want someone who is like you or somebody 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.279 who's like a compliment to you? 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.799 Probably a compliment because like I'm a pretty chaotic person. 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:09.960 You want someone who is a little bit more, someone more. 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.000 Grounded and centered, but also like has it like a 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.560 lot of endurance for like Shenanigans because you know we're 0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.280 switching states every couple of days. 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:18.800 Of course, you know, like, yeah. 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.680 It's hard to date someone who goes from like a 0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.000 Trump rally to Ukraine. 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.520 Right, someone who's like on board with you, but like 0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.880 you know, when you're like that, she'll kind of be like, 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:28.040 hey remember. 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.960 Someone who like really does their own thing to where 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.000 I can be stoked as well. Total total I'm like, 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.759 that's sick that you did that, not just like compliment. 0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:36.920 All the time. 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.960 Of course, of course, yeah, I really don't prioritize dating though. 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.200 Are you a guy like with with Gabby. You gave 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:44.719 hers like a great you gave her like a. 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.359 Great thing to text that guy. Yeah, and you're with 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.160 your friends and like just the people you know in 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.600 your personal life? Are you you the guy people go 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.120 to when they have something going on? 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.680 And just since the rise to whatever, like viral fame, Yeah, 0:42:57.760 --> 0:42:59.640 over the past couple of years, I've dealt with a 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:04.200 lot of manipulators and really shitty friends and partners and everything. 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.400 And just like people manipulating, you know, people treat you 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.960 different and they do different things to you know, feel 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.280 like they can control you. You have traction and stuff 0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:17.120 going on. Yeah, So I've just developed different strategies to like, 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.879 you know, end things or start things on a good note. 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:22.840 So like I just know like what to do in 0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:24.279 that those kinds of situations. 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:28.759 So being the subject of like, you know, people manipulating 0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:33.319 you because of like the rise, has that changed your 0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.960 trust level sort of? 0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:38.000 But I mean I look at it as a positive 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.280 because it makes me realize, Okay, who are my actual 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.200 friends who's like near me? 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.719 For clout That sounds dumb, but that's why. No, I 0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:46.680 mean it's a thing that just. 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.200 Naturally my friend group has tightened up a lot to 0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:50.680 where like I spend a lot of time with my 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.120 two best friends. Of course I don't have like five 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.560 groups of best friends in different cities like I did 0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.360 when I was twenty two. Yeah, I have like five 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.560 to six close friends, and so I don't really deal 0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:02.680 with that kind of stuff anymore. 0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:03.480 But it was that. 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.799 Middle ground where I was like exploding in popularity online 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:08.799 while trying to have a normal life. 0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.879 Things were more difficult. And you work with your two friends, 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.279 Nick and Evan, Yeah, what's your relationship like with them? 0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.200 I mean they're just you know, day to day best friends. Yeah, 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.120 you know, they helped me through everything. I help them 0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:23.759 through everything. But yeah, I mean we lived in the 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:25.680 RV together, and you know. 0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.000 Is it like because a lot of the times it's 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.759 like really hard to like work with people who are 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.439 also your like your genuine like good friends. Is there 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.360 ever any like conflict or anything? 0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.719 Only because we're so in sync and we do things 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.480 on our own terms like totally, you know, I mean, are. 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:47.040 The roles pretty heavily defined? Everyone knows what they do. 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:48.920 The interviewing, and like I have the final say on 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.160 the edits typically like Nick is like the best music 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.000 scoring person. Ever, he's also like really nice with the 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.880 cameras and just like visually gifted Evan's Evan's sort of 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.200 like all in one, you know, because Evan doesn't really edit, 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.560 doesn't really interview, but he helps just to write them 0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.880 out with everything and also like manages things on like 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:09.320 the business and scheduling side, because that's kind of like 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.640 where he's oriented. But like, yeah, it's a good team. 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.040 I wouldn't want it to be any bigger or any smaller. 0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:19.040 And so I remember reading somewhere like one of them 0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.920 is your college friends, Yeah, and one is your high 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:22.919 school friends. Yeah. 0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.040 Evan and I went to high school together in Seattle. Yeah, 0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.560 Nick and I am met in college in New Orleans. 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.399 And then did you take them and kind of bang 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:31.400 them together? And now they're best friends as well? 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.239 Yeah, they're definitely best friends. Nice, it's a three way 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.440 best friend just triple triangle? 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:36.800 Is it? 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.160 Is it hard when you have to like work with 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.600 people like outside of the tight we. 0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.680 Have a couple of people like our homie Nate, like 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.480 we trust a lot. Yeah, there's definitely people our friend Kendra, like, 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.960 there's people who we work with are like solid. 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.240 But it's a small network. 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.480 Because it does because it should be small totally don't 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:55.640 need that many people around. 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:56.959 So that's what I'm saying. 0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.000 Like when I'm used to like giving good advice for 0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.319 like ending thing, Yeah, like I. 0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.719 Know how to trim the fat because you've had the end. Yeah. 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:04.640 I used to work for. 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.399 A giant media company, but doing things media, of course 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:08.960 we had to separate and I had to I had 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:10.560 to send I had to, you know, send a lot 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:11.680 of text messages like that. 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.840 You know, so you're not you're totally comfortable with you 0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.959 can have You're good having hard conversations, Yes, definitely nice. 0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:19.880 That's it's an important skill to have. I feel like 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.360 a lot of people want to just speaking up at 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.480 the right time and being like yo, fuck this, so 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.799 what the trust thing? And like, you know, knowing, you know, 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.560 trying to figure who your real friends are. Like, I mean, 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.040 obviously you've been all over the world talk to all 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:35.600 sorts of people. Do you think people in general are good? Yeah? 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.680 You think the default person has a oh definitely, dude. 0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.120 Yeah, I mean to suggest otherwise would just be like 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.799 so nihilistic totally. I mean I do think that like 0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:49.279 everyone has you know, really has a bad side to them, 0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.239 you know, And there is groups of people that are 0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.400 more aggressive than others and more hateful than others. But 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.360 I think it generally, especially if someone becomes comfortable and 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.160 they're in their element, they're a good person. I think 0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:02.480 there's people that get into unfamiliar environments, like imagine like 0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:06.160 someone from you know, Southeast Portland. Yeah, getting like dropped 0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:09.399 in the ozarks, right or Rice versa, It brings something 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:09.680 out of you. 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:10.680 Yeah, they would just be. 0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:15.080 More combative, more aggressive, because you know, uncomfortability breeds hostility. 0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.000 You know, if you're in like a tight spot, you're 0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:18.920 just like you lash out because you're like, oh I 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:19.920 feel uncomfortable. 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.719 Uh No, I think most people are good. So is 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.400 there any type of situation because you've been in all 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:29.839 these situations, is there anything that like does make you uncomfortable? 0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:33.640 Just like racist shit? 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.879 Yeah, I don't like that, of course, something about that, 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.000 like you just like I can I can listen to 0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:44.400 a lot, but I cannot agree or like level with 0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.120 someone who's like on their like N word shit. 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:49.799 Have you ever had somebody like just really going at 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.680 it like that into the mic and you had to 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.840 pull away? Honestly? 0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:56.319 In those moments I keep the mic there. Yeah, because 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.400 I got to show the ignorance. Yeah, of course I 0:47:58.440 --> 0:47:59.840 can't withdraw on the eleventh are you. 0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.560 Are you fightings back like saying something? 0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:02.759 Oh? 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:04.800 Yeah, just because of how I was raised around a 0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.120 lot of different, you know, types of people, like when 0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.480 when white people get really racist, I just can't. It 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:14.279 just makes me so mad. But yeah, I don't do 0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:17.319 it that too much. But yeah, that that shit pass 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:18.080 me off for sure. 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.440 Hey do you want to take more calls? Yeah? Sure, 0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:26.400 talk to Liz. This is a cute one. Liz. 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:31.080 Hello, I didn't think I would actually get through. 0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:35.560 You have a very kind voice here, might be of 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:36.680 a kindergarten teacher. 0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:40.200 Thank you. 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:41.440 That makes me very happy. 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:45.160 You just made my night, Liz. It says here that 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.839 you have a habit of stealing plants off of your 0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:53.719 college campus grounds and then gifting them to your professors. 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:57.920 That's not a problem, No, it's not. 0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:01.560 It's actually really wonderful. Okay, So I'm a biology major. 0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.959 I'm actually graduating tomorrow, which is crazy. But I love 0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:10.760 plants so much. I feel like they're very underappreciated, and 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:15.000 whoever does the landscaping in my college does an awesome job. 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:20.520 So whenever I see a biology professor who does not 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:23.719 have a plant in their office, I just borrow a 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:27.719 plant from campus and transfer it, you know. 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:33.120 And I think that colleges are grossly overfunded, just like 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:37.200 corporations are. So I think that by stealing from someone 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:41.960 like a large university or like a Walmart, you're actually 0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:46.640 creating jobs because the absence of the foliage will cause 0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:50.759 them to hire more landscapers, just like if Walmart is 0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:54.120 missing toothpaste, they will, you know, just place another order 0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:54.760 at Colgate. 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:56.240 It's a drop in the bucket. 0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.960 And the delight that you're causing your professors to expec 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:04.319 experience it's more important than any sort of financial loss 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:05.160 your college could take. 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:08.319 Thank you, Thank you. 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:09.879 I like that justification. 0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.799 Actually, yeah, now I've got a question, Liz. Do the 0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:17.800 professors know that the plants are stolen from the campus. 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.600 A couple of them? Do I waited for like the 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.400 last minute too, to tell them that a couple of 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:31.520 the plants that gave them were not mine originally. 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:35.840 Do they ever have a problem with there? Are they 0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.560 ever like I can't accept this on those grounds? 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:41.360 No? 0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:43.480 No, because I tell them by the time they've grown 0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:46.200 like kind of emotionally attached to them. Because I encourage 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.640 everyone to name their plants. I think that just really 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:52.240 establishes that, like this is mine. 0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:57.600 Now. Is that the most illegal thing you've ever done? 0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:02.480 Ooh, that's a good question, thank you. I don't live 0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:03.799 a very dangerous life. 0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.280 Think high school? 0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:10.960 High school? 0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:12.279 Oh? 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:13.120 Is that one time? 0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:18.880 No? Like driving? Okay, you egged a house? 0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:20.879 Was it a random house or was it the house 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:22.680 of an enemy? 0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:29.239 So I was at a sleepover with a bunch of girls. 0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:32.040 I was on like the volleyball team in high school. 0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.080 So this is what we did every year for like 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:38.600 team bonding, And then we did drugs as a team too, 0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:39.799 and did something bad? 0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:43.000 Which which drugs did you do? 0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:46.319 Are you talking about, you know, doing pharmaceuticals out of 0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:50.960 your parents' medicine cabinet? Are we talking about heading downtown 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:51.920 to score some smack? 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:55.399 Oh? 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.719 No, we're just talking about like terrible week? 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.960 Okay, bad weed? Are are you? Are you from a state? Where? 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:05.000 What state are you from? 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:08.200 I'm from North Carolina? 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:13.640 Okay that that that adds up in terms of bad weed. HM. 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.799 So so do you have any do you have any 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:21.400 desire to like get into danger like is danger like 0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:23.480 does it call out to you at all? Or are 0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:27.560 you perfectly happy living without it? 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:34.359 You know, I think I do want a little bit 0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:38.000 more of a thrill in my life. I think I do, 0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:44.239 like objectively, like I guess like I'm not afraid to 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:47.759 say things or just ask in a very authentic way, 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:51.279 which kind of gives me a thrill sometimes. So like, 0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:55.600 as a side note, I have this condition that makes 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.160 me faint all the time, like I passed out, and 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.680 after passing out and in front of enough like three 0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:05.600 hundred percent lecture halls, I just like don't care anymore 0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:06.640 about many things. 0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:11.719 And it's wonderful, absolutely, And I'm sure the professors are 0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:14.960 just delighted to receive these plants. So I think that honestly, 0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:16.840 you should keep doing what you should, keep doing what 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.640 you're doing. I think that on the moral totem pole, 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:25.480 you're doing more good than harm. And Liz, just keep 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:30.240 racking those plants, keep making professor's days. Congratulations on graduation. 0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:33.160 Thanks. 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.520 Yeah, I have to totally prepare for that tonight. 0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:41.640 I neglected to do that, Liz before we go, do 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:45.280 you have any like the people out there who maybe 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:48.239 hear this conversation and are inspired by you and all 0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:49.760 the joy that you get out of plants. 0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:52.400 Do you have a recommendation for a plant for like 0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:55.399 a first time or someone who's like, man, I'm really 0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.080 inspired by Liz. I want to get a plant. What 0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:58.240 plant should they get? Liz? 0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:03.600 Oh, okay, I know exactly. Okay, So there's a plant, like, 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.520 it's a hawthornyon plant. 0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:14.840 Say that one more time. Hawthornia zebra zebra. Okay, Hawthornia zebra. 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:20.120 This thing is so hard to kill. Like I've had 0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:22.799 one of them for like eight years now, and it 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:25.879 keeps on propagating and it's kind of overwhelming actually, because 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:28.799 now I have multiple hawthornious zebra plants and they're all 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:30.959 propagating at the same time, and I really just can't 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:32.360 take as many baby plant. 0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:38.040 Thank you, beautiful. I feel like we're gonna I feel 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:39.560 like at some point I'll get a DM from someone 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.640 who's like showed takes a picture of their plane, like 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:43.400 I bought a hawthorniy and zebra plant. 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:46.080 Yeah, you're going to improve somebody's air quality and mental 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:49.120 health in the chat right now. Well, thank you for calling, Liz. 0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:57.680 Thank you so much. Bye bye, what a nice person. Yeah, 0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:01.200 she was super cool. Fact that she's doing something so 0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:05.480 misdemeanorish and she feels bad enough to call in for 0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:07.040 the for moral resolution. 0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:10.360 It was amazing. Do you do you have a plants? 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:11.080 Do plants? 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:14.160 I always get plants, Like I become plant guy, like 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:16.239 a couple times a year. But then I leave town 0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:18.279 and my plants always die. 0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:18.239 You know. 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.759 So every I've gone to like nurseries here and spent 0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:26.960 like four hundred bucks freshest like ceramic pots, sickest plants, 0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:28.600 and then I'm like, I'm gonna. 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:29.719 Take care of you, you know. 0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:31.640 And then I go somewhere and I end up like 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:33.200 on the East Coast for a month, and I come 0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.560 back and it's just like a plant graveyard. 0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.400 But what kind of plants do you typically get when 0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:38.920 you get plants? 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.480 Dude? I just basic ones, A couple of ferns. 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:43.799 When you get when you get a plant, what do 0:55:43.840 --> 0:55:46.600 you like looking? What need are you looking to fill 0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:47.160 with the plants? 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:51.120 I like sort of a you know, wide plumage, you know, 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:55.120 sort of hanging hanging plants. I like when they drape 0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:57.640 down from the ceiling and make my walls look like 0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:02.880 they're covered in ivy. Yeah, good amount of money. 0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:08.719 That's pretty good. Hey, you're on the show. Where do 0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:09.640 you think he is right now? 0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:11.000 If you make a. 0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:17.480 Guess, Harrison's at the grocery store. He's ordering raisins. Do 0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:19.200 you know that you're on the show? Is this a 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.960 pocket dial show? 0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:25.640 You're on the show? Brother a bunch of people? Hello, 0:56:25.880 --> 0:56:26.399 what's up man? 0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:28.960 What's up man? 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.880 How are you doing good? See your question? 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:35.200 Says Harrison from Ohio wants to ask Gek and Andrew 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:37.960 if he should continue to use shrooms and acid? 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:39.000 Can you tell us about that? 0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:42.759 Yes, I would love to talk about that. 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:47.640 I I did a. 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.560 Hold on one second, Harrison, Harrison. Can you hear me? 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.000 You can hear me? Harris Harrison? Am I are we 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:58.400 on like the cars speakerphone or like a speakerphone or 0:56:58.440 --> 0:56:59.160 something like that. 0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:06.040 Catch I'm outside right now? Is that better? 0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:08.239 Okay? That's way whatever you just did way better? 0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:10.319 All right? 0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:10.600 Bet? 0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:14.120 Okay? What you were sorry? You were you were explaining, 0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:17.200 you were explaining to us your question. You know. 0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:22.240 It says here that you're twenty two, your name's Harrison, 0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.760 You're from Ohio, and you'd like to ask us if 0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.880 you should continue to use acid and shrooms. 0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:29.320 Can you explain. 0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:36.160 Yeah, So throughout the week, I'm usually working and I 0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:39.360 usually kind of average on doing like a tab tab 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:43.919 and a half every like two days, and at night 0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.360 just tripping my balls off off some good shit. And 0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:48.760 I don't know if it's fucking with my brain because 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:51.480 I've been having these weird dreams lately, and I'm on 0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:54.600 the medicine to help me with the dreams, but it's 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:58.560 fucking weird and I don't know if I continue to 0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:00.280 bounce it out or uh. 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.600 Uh, what type of medicine are you taking to cope 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:04.320 with these dreams? 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:10.240 It's like a one milligram of it's pros and I 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:14.840 just started on I need to look at them, not prozac. 0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:17.560 It's like Prosian. Honestly, if you look up like the 0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.840 only the only like pill that can help with like 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.760 nightmares or some ship it's just that it's like one 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:26.800 till I don't know what specifically called. So uh yeah, 0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:29.000 it's just makes me have these weird dreams. 0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:32.320 So what happens in these nightmares that you're describing. 0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:36.520 Well, they're not really like nightmares. They're more just like 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:40.840 like it kind of like manifests into my daily activities, 0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:46.040 like like my day from like the last whatever, Like 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:47.800 I'll just have dreams about that and it'll just be 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:51.120 like a weird like you like weird shit I'll see 0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:54.919 throughout the day, Like I don't know. It's like I'll 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:58.840 see I don't even know, Like it's it's basically like 0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:01.200 a story like gone wrong, like throughout the day. It's 0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:04.840 like a fucking car crap or like like just some 0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:07.400 weird events and I don't know how to interpret that. 0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:10.960 Well. I would say this, like, you know, when I 0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:12.560 did a lot of those kinds of drugs when I 0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:15.080 was super young, and because of that, you know, a 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:17.600 lot of people know that I have something called HPPD, 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:23.320 which is hallucinogen persisting perception disorder, so that I have permanent, 0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:27.840 you know, visual problems like visual snow and floaters and 0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:33.640 tracers and such from not abusing just using a bunch 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.320 of shrooms at a young age. That being said, I'm 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:40.440 not anti drug or anti psychedelic. It just affected me badly. 0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:43.000 I know that it's a rare thing, but I would say, man, 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:44.880 it's it's pretty much a no brainer. If you want 0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:47.440 to ask me, if you're experiencing If you're doing a 0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.320 tab and a half every couple days and you're experiencing 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:52.600 nightmares to the extent that you have to take a 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.360 prescription medication to deal with them, I think it's a 0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.520 good time for you to slow down, if not, go 0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:03.000 cold y on the on the acid tabs and see 1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:07.960 if you're dreams dream schedule adjusts to to to that change. 1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:10.959 Yeah, I would agree. 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:12.640 I've had those thoughts already. It's just like I kind 1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:15.280 of have the addic mindset where I'm super just like 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:16.480 fucking hooked. 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.440 On it, like you're I'm gonna keep it real, you know, 1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:21.440 and this is this is a therapy podcast. 1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:25.000 But you are not addicted to LSD. You might be 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:25.720 addicted to that. 1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:26.560 We'll not addicted. 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:29.520 It's just like I know, you mean, I know it's 1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:33.000 not addictive. Maybe so I smoke with it too. So 1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:35.320 sometimes it kind of like chains and like I'll be 1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:38.320 like super trip and ball like even off the like 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:39.200 heavier ship. 1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:42.840 I mean, are you are you using are you using 1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:46.200 it to like cope with something in particular that you 1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:47.200 can peg it to. 1:00:49.720 --> 1:00:52.040 Honestly, I don't even I mean I kind of have 1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:55.160 some trauma, but I ain't like doing it to that extent. 1:00:55.200 --> 1:00:57.800 I don't know, just something like all my buddies went 1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:00.480 to the army and ship, so it's a little bit 1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:04.920 like solo. 1:01:06.520 --> 1:01:09.919 You're just super bored, you're hell aboard and you miss 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:14.640 your friends. So you're tripping out because it's it's it's 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:18.840 giving you something to do, man, But you gotta stop. 1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:22.440 You gotta stop doing it though, man, because realistically, you know, 1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:26.439 LSD doesn't have a chemically addictive component, so you don't 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:28.400 actually have You're not gonna have any kinds of like 1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:31.400 withdrawal symptoms if anything. You're just going to be super 1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:34.240 bored and kind of irritable because you're used to that routine. 1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:38.320 But yeah, man, if you're having nightmares, dude, I know 1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:40.400 it's gonna be hard. But the advice that I'm giving 1:01:40.440 --> 1:01:42.160 you is just straight up you got to cut the 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:42.720 tabs out. 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:45.360 Yeah. 1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:48.280 I'm kind of come to terms with that. I've already 1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:50.040 tried to quit, like multiple times. It's just kind of 1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:54.200 fucking hard when you don't have to do honestly I need. 1:01:56.440 --> 1:01:57.880 Yeah, that's what it's going to bring up, is like 1:01:57.880 --> 1:01:59.400 I feel like if you want to wean on, this 1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:02.160 is like a feeling, got a classic like whatever drug 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:03.920 thing like if you want to get rid of it, 1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:06.400 you got to replace it with something that's like positive. 1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:09.840 Can we like, is there anything if you have any 1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:13.240 hobbies or like anything you can think of that you 1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:15.680 you you know that you do that. Maybe you want 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:18.280 to like lean into more, like like do to a 1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:20.640 sport and art anything. 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:23.040 Yeah. 1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:26.120 Yeah, So I just got along with a new job 1:02:26.120 --> 1:02:28.520 and I'm fucking loving it, just compared to some other shit. 1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:30.520 I think that might be helping them to like settle 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:33.080 off and just focus some money. Oh they're going on 1:02:33.520 --> 1:02:35.120 a fucking target for a little bit, but it was 1:02:35.160 --> 1:02:37.440 just boring, monotonous. But I'm doing like a turf building 1:02:37.920 --> 1:02:41.360 installation with a bunch of buddies, like traveling ship. So 1:02:41.400 --> 1:02:43.480 I think maybe that routine can help me. They do that, 1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:45.280 like I've already kind of come to terms. It's just 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:48.200 I don't really this is an addictive part. I guess 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:50.160 my personality that hooked up. 1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:53.400 Yeah, gotcha. So you guys, so you it sounds like 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:55.520 you're getting along well with these people that you're building 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:59.200 this church with. It sounds like you fuck with them. 1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:03.440 It's a sucking turf building oh, I. 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:08.520 Thinks a church. Okay, you're doing aid. I was like, 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:09.760 what's going on, man. 1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:12.840 Crazy building on baseball field and. 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:15.120 You're installing a. 1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:18.800 Yeah. 1:03:18.880 --> 1:03:21.840 Well I don't. I mean, I'm not. I'm not. I'm 1:03:21.840 --> 1:03:23.040 not disrespecting your plan. 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:25.800 But I don't think that focusing on money is going 1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:27.520 to make you stop doing acid. 1:03:28.800 --> 1:03:31.040 But I don't. I don't think it's you. You said, 1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:33.480 you said, you said, you kind of mentioned money as 1:03:33.480 --> 1:03:35.720 an aside. You said that you like like this job. 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:38.120 Is that true? Yeah? 1:03:38.200 --> 1:03:41.480 Yeah, it's just like you get to see a progression. 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:42.919 I guess, like you're actually building something. 1:03:43.120 --> 1:03:47.120 Okay, word, so you you're enjoying the actual process of 1:03:47.120 --> 1:03:49.200 installing the astro turf because it gives you a sense 1:03:49.240 --> 1:03:50.000 of accomplishment. 1:03:52.280 --> 1:03:52.520 True. 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:54.960 Yeah, And it comes with a payment weekly, So it's 1:03:55.040 --> 1:03:55.600 kind of nice to. 1:03:55.520 --> 1:03:59.439 Be like, oh, it's rare to like your job. 1:04:01.360 --> 1:04:04.080 If you can enjoy installing AstroTurf, you've already won the 1:04:04.120 --> 1:04:04.720 game of life. 1:04:05.400 --> 1:04:06.600 I will. I will sign off on that. 1:04:08.640 --> 1:04:11.240 Actually, well, guys, I appreciate I think I got a 1:04:11.240 --> 1:04:13.400 lot of shit from this. I think I'm gonna definitely 1:04:13.520 --> 1:04:15.640 quit this ship. I already come to term and just 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:18.240 I can't talk to my fucking parents about this. It'll 1:04:18.240 --> 1:04:18.840 be tripper. 1:04:18.960 --> 1:04:21.680 Yeah, you definitely cannot talk to your parents about that. 1:04:23.400 --> 1:04:25.640 Any Any final words for the computer. 1:04:25.360 --> 1:04:31.720 Harrison, Uh, I would probably lay off the assid if 1:04:31.760 --> 1:04:36.000 you're younger than like eighteen or fucking I probably would 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:38.800 just wait until you're like, yeah, twenty one or something. 1:04:39.720 --> 1:04:42.880 Don't it bucks with your like psychology and ship basically 1:04:43.200 --> 1:04:44.760 it definitely alters your brain, bro. 1:04:46.200 --> 1:04:47.840 Yeah, but yeah, I'll just get out of ice. 1:04:48.120 --> 1:04:50.400 Fucking love people and fucking love you and you call 1:04:50.520 --> 1:04:52.160 hands peeks out. 1:04:52.160 --> 1:04:57.560 Beautiful, take care brother. I think he may have had 1:04:57.560 --> 1:05:01.160 a few beers before that clime. I I liked him. 1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:03.680 I like, uh, it's again, it's like it's a rare 1:05:03.720 --> 1:05:06.800 thing to enjoy your job. He seems like he's having 1:05:06.960 --> 1:05:10.920 fun with the these his buddies and ship. Yeah, you 1:05:10.960 --> 1:05:13.840 seem like you have something you have to say. It's 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:15.960 just like, just don't do that. Just don't. 1:05:16.320 --> 1:05:19.440 If acids already fucking with you, yeah, just stop doing it. 1:05:19.600 --> 1:05:23.120 I don't know, like, do you contell Like, I know 1:05:23.160 --> 1:05:25.600 you you did a whole bunch of drugs and stuff 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:27.160 when you were younger, But do you do you still 1:05:27.280 --> 1:05:30.040 do acid and trums. No, no, I don't do any drugs. Now. 1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:32.960 Do you smoke weed? No? You didn't drink? No, I 1:05:33.040 --> 1:05:37.640 drink you. Now, how often do you get people being like, well, Andrew, 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:39.880 were you like high when you were like coming up 1:05:40.560 --> 1:05:43.160 all the time? So annoying. I'm not anti weed, I'm 1:05:43.200 --> 1:05:43.920 not anti anything. 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:44.360 I just like. 1:05:45.960 --> 1:05:48.880 The the annoying thing is, you know, I get high 1:05:48.920 --> 1:05:50.840 and stuff. But the annoying thing is when people are like, 1:05:50.920 --> 1:05:53.280 I have this weird assumption that you like can't be 1:05:53.400 --> 1:05:56.720 funny or creative without like drugs. 1:05:57.200 --> 1:06:00.959 Yeah, you know, yeah, that's real, like bird brains shit. 1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:01.520 Yeah. 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:03.920 I mean I think that drugs early in life make 1:06:04.000 --> 1:06:07.000 you a cooler person. You know, pretty much all of 1:06:07.000 --> 1:06:10.720 my friends, you know, abused alcohol and drugs before the 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:13.400 age of eighteen. I think it teaches you a bunch 1:06:13.440 --> 1:06:16.680 of stuff early, and you go into adulthood like a 1:06:16.680 --> 1:06:17.360 true soldier. 1:06:17.480 --> 1:06:19.600 What did it teach you? I don't even know. It's 1:06:19.600 --> 1:06:20.400 hard to explain. 1:06:20.640 --> 1:06:25.000 Just like the dark side man addiction, dependency, tragedies, triumphs, 1:06:25.040 --> 1:06:29.240 you know, partying, losing friends, buying drugs, selling, you know, 1:06:29.360 --> 1:06:32.080 just the world that you get yourself into, hanging out 1:06:32.080 --> 1:06:34.880 with the bad kids early on, watching people throw their 1:06:34.920 --> 1:06:37.160 life away before they become adults. 1:06:37.680 --> 1:06:39.880 And when you were sort of in the depths of 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:42.680 this how old are you, like, like really youngineteen sixteen. 1:06:43.200 --> 1:06:45.920 Fifteen sixteen would be when I was heaviest into that, 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:47.080 like world, do. 1:06:47.040 --> 1:06:49.040 You remember start of the darkest thing you saw during 1:06:49.040 --> 1:06:49.400 that time? 1:06:49.920 --> 1:06:52.520 Just man, just people losing their mind. One of my 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:54.920 best friends lost his mind on acid and you know 1:06:55.200 --> 1:06:58.360 has been homeless ever since. You know, people dying. 1:06:58.200 --> 1:06:59.400 From drug overdoses. 1:06:59.400 --> 1:07:02.880 You know, people getting kidnapped by their parents and shipped 1:07:02.880 --> 1:07:05.200 off to desert school in Utah and you never see 1:07:05.240 --> 1:07:08.400 him again. You know, your parents crying because they find 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:11.760 you know, pot stuffed in your mattress. 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:14.440 And experiencing all this, I assume is what sort of 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:15.880 led you to be totally sober now. 1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:18.040 Yeah, I mean I drink and have a good time. 1:07:18.120 --> 1:07:21.280 I'm like a straight edge guy. So it's like I 1:07:21.320 --> 1:07:25.120 would never do drugs just because I did it all before, 1:07:26.080 --> 1:07:28.000 not at all. I've never done like heroin or anything 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:28.200 like that. 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:32.760 I've never done shrooms are acid before, but I really 1:07:32.800 --> 1:07:33.439 want to should. 1:07:33.480 --> 1:07:36.280 I mean, I think if you're in your mid twenties, right, Yeah, 1:07:36.400 --> 1:07:38.480 I'm your age. Yeah, Okay, you're at the age where 1:07:38.520 --> 1:07:40.160 you should definitely do it. I mean I think that 1:07:40.320 --> 1:07:42.880 like mid twenties are a great time to try strooms 1:07:42.880 --> 1:07:44.640 and acid. I mean, how cool would it be if 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:46.480 I didn't do those things and now I could, like 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:48.200 you know, go to Joshua Tree and like eat it 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:49.160 eight the shrooms. 1:07:48.840 --> 1:07:50.720 With like my two best friends. Yeah, it would be sick. 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:53.240 I just think that, like I kind of like missed 1:07:53.240 --> 1:07:55.400 the mark, but I had a lot of fun doing 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:56.000 it early on. 1:07:56.560 --> 1:07:59.240 But now do you when you say like how far 1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:01.200 would we do? Now? Like do you like are you 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:03.280 talking about like taking shrooms and like having that be 1:08:03.360 --> 1:08:05.880 like like with all the stuff you've done all the 1:08:06.560 --> 1:08:08.560 like to like be in that mind space to reflect 1:08:08.600 --> 1:08:08.960 on all that. 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:12.240 It probably helped me unpack some uh some deep seated 1:08:12.320 --> 1:08:14.360 questions and heavy shift that I haven't encountered. 1:08:14.680 --> 1:08:16.840 Yeah, I think I have. For a while, I've had 1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:20.160 like resistance to that, but I'm getting to a point 1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:22.120 and like, you know what, I'm ready. 1:08:22.160 --> 1:08:24.400 If you smoke a ton of weed, yeah you can 1:08:24.400 --> 1:08:25.479 handle like some shrooms. 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:27.559 Does it just feel like being really high? 1:08:27.680 --> 1:08:27.840 Yes? 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:29.160 Really? Yeah? 1:08:29.520 --> 1:08:32.320 It has more of like an intellectual spiritual component. Sure, 1:08:32.360 --> 1:08:36.640 and it's hallucinatory. Yeah, like I imagine like you're you 1:08:36.640 --> 1:08:38.040 ever greened out before on weed? 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:41.200 I think I think I've experienced something. 1:08:41.920 --> 1:08:46.400 Pot without the like overwhelming anxiety. Okay, you're just really high, 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:48.200 but you know, you know what you're getting yourself into, 1:08:48.280 --> 1:08:50.280 so you're not like shivering or puking or anything. 1:08:50.320 --> 1:08:53.559 Have you ever done MDMA? Yeah? Is there is there 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:56.720 any relation? Is there any relation in the fe No, 1:08:56.760 --> 1:08:58.120 I don't have to take an empty man. That's why 1:08:58.120 --> 1:09:01.400 I'm asking does it feel anything like? No? Okay, I 1:09:01.439 --> 1:09:04.120 mean it's four at times. Yeah, the euphouria, I'm like, 1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:05.080 is there a similar eufouria? 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:08.679 Yeah, similar euphoria, but there's the come up is also insane, 1:09:08.680 --> 1:09:10.600 Like you know, when you're coming up on MDMA, it 1:09:10.600 --> 1:09:12.960 feels like the Earth is like meeting the moon. 1:09:13.080 --> 1:09:15.280 Sure, Like I don't know a good way to describe. 1:09:15.320 --> 1:09:18.240 It's like, you know, grab, you're just like, I don't 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:19.040 take that shitty that. 1:09:19.200 --> 1:09:22.240 Actually I did MBMA in Las Vegas in twenty twenty. 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:25.920 That was it. It was awesome. It was great. Yeah, 1:09:26.080 --> 1:09:27.000 that was awesome. 1:09:27.000 --> 1:09:29.120 But like Molly's that kind of thing where it's like, dude, 1:09:29.680 --> 1:09:30.920 I'm good for a while. 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:34.400 But you probably have people like assuming I guess, like 1:09:34.439 --> 1:09:36.840 fans or of assuming you're on drugs. I mean I 1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:39.880 am tripping all the time, right, Yeah, Oh, I mean 1:09:39.920 --> 1:09:41.639 I guess like that you just like still, but it's 1:09:41.640 --> 1:09:43.640 like I don't do drugs, but I'm permanently you know, 1:09:43.840 --> 1:09:48.200 fried from drugs. Yeah. Does that have like does that 1:09:48.320 --> 1:09:50.840 affect the interviews at all in any way, Like, are 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:52.799 you like ever tripping while you're like talking to someone 1:09:52.920 --> 1:09:55.679 or like at a really like inconvenient time. 1:09:55.960 --> 1:09:59.040 No, because it's constant, Like you know, I have shrowm 1:09:59.439 --> 1:10:01.400 like visual ship, so it's I don't. 1:10:01.280 --> 1:10:03.880 Know, it's constant. Oh oh, I thought these were like 1:10:04.320 --> 1:10:06.720 I thought they were like, what is it flashbacks? 1:10:07.360 --> 1:10:09.960 That's like acid, that's like because acid gets like stored. 1:10:09.720 --> 1:10:10.519 In your spinal cords. 1:10:10.600 --> 1:10:13.479 Yeah, like crack your back and I have just like 1:10:13.360 --> 1:10:15.479 just like okay, you're right now. 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:15.720 Yeah. 1:10:15.800 --> 1:10:17.360 So it's not like it's some crazy it's like the 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:20.240 majority of my life now I've had like TV static. 1:10:20.280 --> 1:10:22.600 It's actually not that annoying really, yeah, because it's just 1:10:22.720 --> 1:10:23.479 it's just how I see. 1:10:23.800 --> 1:10:26.439 Is it kind of like being blind. I mean it's 1:10:26.479 --> 1:10:29.200 like you have static like covering a little bit. It 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:34.920 definitely impairs like site mm hm for sure. Whatever though, Man, 1:10:35.680 --> 1:10:38.840 we're fucking here. We're fucking here. Look at us, man, 1:10:39.160 --> 1:10:41.240 some geckos. We're a couple of geckos. Yeah, but I 1:10:41.280 --> 1:10:45.160 do want to do more for the HPPD community. Uh. Oh, 1:10:45.200 --> 1:10:47.439 that's that's the Oh are you you're in a community 1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:47.840 of people? 1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:48.000 No? 1:10:48.240 --> 1:10:49.960 I mean, but I know that it's out there, and 1:10:50.000 --> 1:10:51.840 like I know that a lot of people with that 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:55.200 condition see me as sort of like you're the guy 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:57.479 a hero because I like overcame that and I know 1:10:58.000 --> 1:11:00.680 that's with that being debilitated, you know, and people have 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:03.000 you know, took their own life over this shit. You know, 1:11:03.120 --> 1:11:05.280 this is a sad thing, and I don't have it 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:06.559 as bad as some people have it. 1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:08.639 Do you ever, Like I assume you haven't really made 1:11:08.680 --> 1:11:10.920 any video or content or anything like where you've like 1:11:10.960 --> 1:11:12.559 really gone depth about it. 1:11:12.600 --> 1:11:16.240 There's this group called the Perception Perception Restoration Fund or 1:11:16.280 --> 1:11:19.320 something like that. Yeah, they're producing a documentary about HPBD 1:11:19.439 --> 1:11:21.639 and they asked me to step on as an executive producer. 1:11:21.720 --> 1:11:23.719 So I'm definitely going to do that and like, cause 1:11:23.880 --> 1:11:25.400 there's a lot of kids that are like me when 1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:27.919 I was when I was thirteen, Yeah, thinking that they're 1:11:27.960 --> 1:11:31.040 having a psychosis and going crazy, but they're not going crazy. 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:34.679 They just have a cosmetic visual issue. But it feels 1:11:34.720 --> 1:11:36.960 like it has a bigger dimension. It's just a visual 1:11:37.000 --> 1:11:39.760 processing problem. It's a lot of people think that they're 1:11:39.800 --> 1:11:41.400 like losing their mind and it's going to get worse 1:11:41.400 --> 1:11:41.880 and stuff like. 1:11:42.080 --> 1:11:44.800 That's great that you're finding avenues to like take on 1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:45.839 the issue and everything. 1:11:45.920 --> 1:11:47.600 Yeah, I mean it's something that I went through, so 1:11:47.680 --> 1:11:49.320 I figure at some point in my life, I got 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:51.519 to do something to help because I didn't really have anybody. 1:11:51.600 --> 1:11:53.080 And it also feels like the kind of thing that 1:11:53.120 --> 1:11:55.200 when you have it, you like don't like it. It's rare, 1:11:55.280 --> 1:11:58.760 so you're like not like you're like, oh fuck, this 1:11:58.800 --> 1:12:01.160 isn't happening to anyone else. I'm completely alone and shit. 1:12:01.240 --> 1:12:04.280 Yeah, especially when you're fourteen to fifteen, and like, you know, 1:12:04.320 --> 1:12:06.200 there's two camps of people in your life. There's the 1:12:06.280 --> 1:12:08.559 parents who were like you could never talk about doing 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:11.280 drugs too, because they'd shame you. Then there's the kids 1:12:11.320 --> 1:12:13.320 who do drugs who don't want to talk about the 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:16.040 negative aspects of drug use. Like imagine trying to tell 1:12:16.040 --> 1:12:18.880 your hippi friend that you have you know right, you 1:12:18.960 --> 1:12:19.360 are right. 1:12:19.600 --> 1:12:21.800 Either of your parents who hate drugs or your friends 1:12:21.800 --> 1:12:23.559 that love drugs, you don't want to talk to you. 1:12:24.160 --> 1:12:26.040 It's the same thing now when you think about modern 1:12:26.080 --> 1:12:29.280 drug science, because there's two camps of drug scientists. There's 1:12:29.280 --> 1:12:31.760 people who work for like the burning Man Foundation, who 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:34.080 are trying to do like ketamine therapy trials, who are right, 1:12:34.240 --> 1:12:37.760 you know, psychedelics are the answer totally MDMA will solve PTSD. 1:12:38.240 --> 1:12:40.760 Then there's the people who are like Mormon Vibes, who 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:43.400 are like, you know, like doing research about how weed 1:12:43.439 --> 1:12:46.800 will destroy your you know right mind and make you schizophrenic. 1:12:47.280 --> 1:12:49.559 So it's still that's why HPPD is so weird. 1:12:50.760 --> 1:12:53.360 Yeah I did it. So you said it didn't even 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:56.880 happen like from from extensive use. It was just just use, 1:12:57.040 --> 1:12:59.240 early use early Okay, how old were you when you 1:12:59.280 --> 1:13:00.919 first did it? Thirteen? 1:13:01.000 --> 1:13:03.960 Yeah, So it's like just using those powerful drugs while 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:06.839 your brain is developing causes issues issues. 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:07.679 It just does. 1:13:07.760 --> 1:13:09.840 But you know, who's going to do a clinical trial 1:13:09.920 --> 1:13:11.920 on a thirteen year old acid head. 1:13:12.240 --> 1:13:15.000 Yeah you know. Yeah, Well, like I said, it's good 1:13:15.000 --> 1:13:18.640 that you're becoming like I feel like, do you do 1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:21.880 like any like people out there, like celebrities or like 1:13:21.920 --> 1:13:23.040 not oble people who like have it? 1:13:23.320 --> 1:13:26.160 Or you the person listed on Wikipedia who has this thing? 1:13:26.640 --> 1:13:29.200 Me and a fictional character from the True Detective show. 1:13:29.320 --> 1:13:30.080 Oh shit, But I. 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:32.920 Mean there is tens of thousands of people who have this, 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:35.120 if not hundreds of thousands who don't realize they have 1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:37.320 it and just think that, you know, they're insane. 1:13:37.520 --> 1:13:39.400 Yeah, it must be really rewarding, like when you have 1:13:39.400 --> 1:13:41.760 the opportunity to like speak, Yeah, it's to be pretty tight. 1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:42.880 I'm trying to figure out how to do it in 1:13:42.880 --> 1:13:45.000 the right way without alienating a large portion. 1:13:44.760 --> 1:13:47.320 Of my Well, I love what you told the previous caller. Yeah, 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:49.200 you know, he seemed like he was receptive to it too, 1:13:49.520 --> 1:13:51.600 for sure. I just don't like that whole like, I mean, 1:13:51.640 --> 1:13:53.200 shout out to him. I just don't like, I don't 1:13:53.240 --> 1:13:55.320 like that vibe. Really, I'm just like, I can't stop 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:56.479 doing acid. It's like, come on, Doug. 1:13:56.520 --> 1:13:59.040 Like some people are hooked on heroin, you know, and 1:13:59.080 --> 1:14:01.760 they or people are addicted to zenex they take five 1:14:01.800 --> 1:14:03.880 bars a day and if they were to go cold turkey, 1:14:03.960 --> 1:14:06.479 they would die like withdrawal sentems. Yeah, so it's like, 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:09.439 don't say that you're addicted to LSD. You're addicted to 1:14:09.600 --> 1:14:11.960 the fun that it gives you. But it's just like 1:14:11.960 --> 1:14:13.600 like there's a point in which where it's like b 1:14:13.720 --> 1:14:16.200 A G like like you know, I know it's the 1:14:16.200 --> 1:14:18.519 therapy get goo ship, but with that kind of thing, 1:14:18.520 --> 1:14:21.719 it's like come on, dog, Like you know, sometimes. 1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:22.840 You do no no, I hear you say it's there, 1:14:22.920 --> 1:14:25.240 but sometimes you do need to say to someone like yeah, 1:14:25.280 --> 1:14:25.960 come on dog. 1:14:26.040 --> 1:14:28.680 Yeah, like a true therapist would like unpack it and 1:14:28.800 --> 1:14:29.519 unpack it. 1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:30.680 But it all falls upon that. 1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:33.200 But Bro, if I don't stop doing, ask what the 1:14:33.200 --> 1:14:35.479 fuck am I gonna do? Bro, I'm gonna be so boring. 1:14:35.520 --> 1:14:36.879 You can get really into asses. 1:14:37.120 --> 1:14:40.240 That guy he's gonna start his own astro turfing business. Dude, 1:14:40.280 --> 1:14:42.519 he's stoked about astro I know, I know when you 1:14:42.520 --> 1:14:45.120 said you've already won life, he truly has already won line. 1:14:45.160 --> 1:14:46.519 You know, if you don't need to go, if you 1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:50.720 can enjoy just doing AstroTurf and you don't have to 1:14:50.720 --> 1:14:52.600 go all over the world, and you don't have to 1:14:52.720 --> 1:14:53.559 like hang it up. 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:55.960 Yeah, you know, shout out to him. 1:14:56.120 --> 1:15:00.000 How are you, How are you feeling awesome? Yeah, dude, 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:02.400 it's it's great to it's great to have you in here. Man, 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:04.599 it's cool. It's cool. Why because I know, it's it's 1:15:04.600 --> 1:15:07.960 cool watching you, Like, it's cool having you in our 1:15:08.040 --> 1:15:10.840 space doing your thing, like it's awesome. Yeah, I love it. 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:13.880 I just want to, you know, re emphasize like I'm 1:15:13.880 --> 1:15:16.800 not anti psychedelic. You know, I really think that they 1:15:16.840 --> 1:15:19.400 have the power to like transform your life and you know, 1:15:19.479 --> 1:15:23.200 rewire your brain, change your brain, like for the positive. 1:15:23.680 --> 1:15:27.120 I just had a negative experience that drastically, you know, 1:15:27.560 --> 1:15:28.599 impacted my life. 1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:32.439 Nobody's gonna blame you if they do acid, They're not gonna. 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:34.840 Be But I'm sure that's you know, it's such a 1:15:34.880 --> 1:15:36.519 tough one man. It's like religion. 1:15:36.760 --> 1:15:39.519 Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, you just can't tell. 1:15:39.400 --> 1:15:41.599 People shit if they really think that like d MT 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:43.240 is like the spirit molecule. 1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:46.439 You can't break through to these people. I'm a little 1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:48.120 bit like I don't want to have like I guess 1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:51.240 this was another sort of resistance to psychedelics was like 1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:54.720 if I'm gonna have like some sort of epiphany or 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:58.320 some sort of like light thing, life changing thing or 1:15:58.400 --> 1:16:02.080 analytic analysis of I want. Does it feel less It 1:16:02.080 --> 1:16:06.000 almost feels like less real if if it's on drugs, absolutely, 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:07.840 like I need an assist to do it. 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:10.599 Like, think about the idea of like Buddhist enlightenment. Think 1:16:10.640 --> 1:16:13.000 about the fact that monks meditate their entis you just 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:15.439 sat there and they sitting there trying to be as 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:19.720 introspective as possible and astro project throughout the universe and 1:16:19.760 --> 1:16:22.080 just sit there hoping to break through to this point 1:16:22.080 --> 1:16:25.080 of enlightenment, and they a lot of times can't do it. 1:16:25.600 --> 1:16:27.160 And then you got someone with a d M T 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:29.439 pen at Venice Beach almost feels like a trip that 1:16:29.439 --> 1:16:31.280 almost feels like a cheat code. Who tells you that 1:16:31.360 --> 1:16:33.800 he just talked to God, Like you talk to God? 1:16:34.320 --> 1:16:35.000 What did he say? 1:16:35.960 --> 1:16:38.080 Is he asking you to ask me for five dollars? 1:16:38.760 --> 1:16:41.240 Doesn't make sense? It's I I understand the idea that 1:16:41.280 --> 1:16:42.920 you know when you think of like like you're saying 1:16:42.920 --> 1:16:45.000 that the monks who were sat there and like really tried. 1:16:45.080 --> 1:16:46.840 It's like and they and and then you have the 1:16:46.840 --> 1:16:48.439 guy with the DMT pen who's like, I talked to 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:50.880 God and You're like, it can't be that easy. Yeah, 1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:54.599 you have to like really sit and try. Why did 1:16:54.640 --> 1:16:56.560 he talk to you and not those monks? You know? 1:16:56.720 --> 1:16:59.080 I would you ever have you done a bunch of 1:16:59.120 --> 1:16:59.760 d M two or no? 1:17:00.320 --> 1:17:02.200 But that's the one psychondel like that I would do, 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:04.280 like at the end of my life because it's it's 1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:06.920 like a just balls deep, like fucking full blast thing 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:07.200 to do. 1:17:07.280 --> 1:17:09.559 I want to do ayahuasca and I'm like, my friend's, 1:17:09.640 --> 1:17:12.680 uh my, one of my friends dad's just did ayahuasca 1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:15.519 and he's like sixty something, and I'm like, oh great 1:17:15.600 --> 1:17:17.360 when i'm there's still cool stuff for me to do 1:17:17.400 --> 1:17:18.000 when I'm sixty. 1:17:18.080 --> 1:17:20.639 Yeah, when I lose my hair, you know, and after 1:17:20.720 --> 1:17:24.200 my divorce and then you get your dog, I'll, you know, 1:17:24.439 --> 1:17:29.000 hitchhike down to Peru, you know, man pukanus in a 1:17:29.080 --> 1:17:29.719 drum circle. 1:17:30.840 --> 1:17:32.759 I like that. There's I like that. There's so many 1:17:32.920 --> 1:17:36.320 cool experiences available to human beings, dude, There's so many. Yeah. 1:17:36.640 --> 1:17:40.240 Yeah, that's why when people are like, is America going downhill? 1:17:40.280 --> 1:17:42.360 I was like, no, it's not. More people need to 1:17:42.400 --> 1:17:45.240 travel through America. Yeah, get real, deep in America. It's 1:17:45.280 --> 1:17:46.160 a weird ass place. 1:17:46.320 --> 1:17:48.040 Well, that's what you're doing, is you're like, I mean, 1:17:48.040 --> 1:17:49.519 a lot of the people who like, they don't feel 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:51.679 like getting off their asses to like go see stuff. 1:17:51.680 --> 1:17:54.799 You're there, you're like the conduit to which they see, yeah, 1:17:55.000 --> 1:17:56.920 stuff outside of their computer. 1:17:57.000 --> 1:17:58.640 I mean, my dream as I'm getting older is just 1:17:58.680 --> 1:18:02.320 to get kids as stoked possible, like eight traveler old fools, 1:18:02.360 --> 1:18:05.719 like just to like hit the American road, like revive 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:07.360 American road lore. 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:10.800 Hitch Hiking is a dead art in a way, right 1:18:10.880 --> 1:18:11.880 because people are scared. 1:18:12.240 --> 1:18:14.280 Well, the stragglers that are a part of that, like 1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:18.120 you know, like hobo hitchhike culture are mostly like train hoppers, 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:21.839 like freight hopping, you know, hopping freight trains across the country, 1:18:22.040 --> 1:18:24.840 like it's a whole, like they call it googles or 1:18:24.840 --> 1:18:27.320 like gutter punks. Like that culture has kind of absorbed 1:18:27.320 --> 1:18:29.520 the remnants of what would have been like hitchhikers. 1:18:29.720 --> 1:18:30.799 Yeah, but hitchhiking. 1:18:30.800 --> 1:18:33.920 That's what makes hitchhiking in the twenty first century and 1:18:34.000 --> 1:18:37.800 especially now so insane is because you're the only one 1:18:37.880 --> 1:18:41.000 really doing it, right. That's not like escaping prison, you know, 1:18:41.120 --> 1:18:43.479 so you know when doing it like just for fun. Yeah, 1:18:43.560 --> 1:18:47.320 not yet, not out of necessity or out of necessity 1:18:47.320 --> 1:18:49.360 because it's such a bad way to get around. Yeah, 1:18:49.400 --> 1:18:52.200 you know, but like you really are creating like a 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:53.599 lane for yourself. 1:18:53.680 --> 1:18:55.639 Did had you ever met someone while you were doing 1:18:55.680 --> 1:18:57.639 because you did it. You did it like to see 1:18:57.640 --> 1:18:58.679 the world. It was the first. 1:18:58.760 --> 1:19:00.800 It was my first like creative jump off the port. 1:19:00.960 --> 1:19:03.679 Did anyone ever give you shit about that in terms 1:19:03.680 --> 1:19:05.240 of like, hey man, I have to do this. 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:08.519 No, I mean there's no there's no sense of entitlement 1:19:08.880 --> 1:19:09.840 in the hitchhiking world. 1:19:09.880 --> 1:19:10.280 If the. 1:19:11.920 --> 1:19:13.880 Get a fucking car man, Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, 1:19:14.040 --> 1:19:15.559 if this is what you're riding for at the end 1:19:15.560 --> 1:19:17.640 of the day, like you gotta find a hobby, you know, 1:19:17.680 --> 1:19:19.920 if you're like I was, you know, I need this. 1:19:21.000 --> 1:19:23.240 Then they want to identify them up the train. 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:26.160 Yeah, you know, convince a truck driver to give you 1:19:26.200 --> 1:19:29.240 a ride somewhere. Na, there's no exclusionary vibe in the 1:19:29.280 --> 1:19:31.160 hitchhiker world. There is no hitchhiker world. 1:19:31.760 --> 1:19:33.599 It sounds fun. I want to do it at some point. 1:19:33.720 --> 1:19:36.599 Yeah, just the fact that like I may have convinced 1:19:36.800 --> 1:19:39.880 an eighteen year old like fresh out of his parents' house. 1:19:39.960 --> 1:19:40.280 Person. 1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:44.920 Yeah, that makes to be like I live in Stockton, California, 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:47.559 or reading or something like, I'm just gonna go to 1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:51.479 the nearest freeway on ramp, stick my thumb out and 1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:53.639 go wherever the driver's going. 1:19:53.880 --> 1:19:55.639 You know, I'm sure you would influence a lot of peop. 1:19:55.760 --> 1:19:58.280 I feel like you definitely get dms with people being like, hey, 1:19:58.320 --> 1:20:00.560 like you inspire me to like go place. Yeah, but 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:02.760 I want them to do that thing, oh, to do 1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:06.960 it specifically to do like doing like the real like 1:20:07.360 --> 1:20:09.640 put yourself out there kind of way. Yeah, you know, 1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:13.240 stealing kind bars type vibe. It's uh, do you ever 1:20:13.560 --> 1:20:16.120 like Okay? So I mean now, like you know, you 1:20:16.120 --> 1:20:18.640 you have like you know, adult money, and you're a 1:20:18.720 --> 1:20:20.439 part and you drive a car and you're. 1:20:20.320 --> 1:20:23.600 Like two thousand and seven Toyota Tacoma perfect. 1:20:23.760 --> 1:20:26.400 And you're like you're like, you're not really living that. 1:20:26.760 --> 1:20:28.479 Does a part of you ever wish you could? 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:31.559 Like, you know, well, the thing is, you know, when 1:20:31.600 --> 1:20:34.479 I turned when I decided to like market and make 1:20:34.479 --> 1:20:36.439 a brand out of what I love to do the most, 1:20:36.800 --> 1:20:40.679 I traded in the anonymity of the road right, Yeah, 1:20:40.720 --> 1:20:42.920 a lot, because I wanted to make a life for 1:20:42.960 --> 1:20:45.000 myself and a name for myself. So you know what 1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:47.640 I loved most as a young person, as a teenager, 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.720 as a hitchhiker, was that anonymous feeling of just like 1:20:51.080 --> 1:20:54.600 being just like completely on the road, enveloped in the 1:20:54.640 --> 1:20:58.800 American highway system at motels and bus stops, talking to 1:20:58.920 --> 1:21:01.559 like dead beats and out laws and runaways, and just 1:21:01.600 --> 1:21:04.960 being able to just be completely anonymous and like using 1:21:05.000 --> 1:21:08.680 my eyes as the camera basically and just like absorbing 1:21:08.680 --> 1:21:10.679 these stories from people that are just on the fringe 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:12.760 and just moving on and you know, writing about it 1:21:12.840 --> 1:21:15.160 later in my journal. And now, you know, if I 1:21:15.200 --> 1:21:17.240 were a hitchhike on the side of the road, you know, 1:21:17.320 --> 1:21:20.160 it would probably take like five ten minutes before you know. 1:21:20.160 --> 1:21:23.599 A super suic over and it's like tryta far. You know. 1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:26.519 So in a way it is sad, and it does 1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:28.240 make me sort of jaded that I have. You know, 1:21:30.040 --> 1:21:32.400 that transaction makes me sad. You know, I've traded in 1:21:32.680 --> 1:21:36.439 a career for sacrificing the road spirit can I ask? 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:38.400 And I almost feel this way about what I do, 1:21:38.479 --> 1:21:41.519 like just with like conversations in general, does it ever 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:43.840 like like you know, back when you when you were 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:46.639 just like writing it down, yeah, and you weren't filming it, 1:21:46.880 --> 1:21:49.080 did it ever feel like more special and more like 1:21:49.160 --> 1:21:51.280 the moment belonged to you? And now you're kind of 1:21:51.280 --> 1:21:52.799 like giving that moment away to people. 1:21:52.880 --> 1:21:55.400 Absolutely, But I do think that writing is the problem 1:21:55.479 --> 1:21:58.120 with writing is that you can just lie your ass off, right, 1:21:58.160 --> 1:21:59.960 So you know, So that's the thing is, like, you know, 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:03.519 my first project was a hitchhiking book that I wrote, 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:06.479 of course, and I realized that, Okay, people don't believe 1:22:06.840 --> 1:22:09.760 the stories that I'm telling. Even my own friends would 1:22:09.760 --> 1:22:11.360 be like, oh did that really happen? Like they think 1:22:11.439 --> 1:22:13.960 that I'm exaggerating like major plot points. And I was like, 1:22:14.000 --> 1:22:17.200 you know what, never again, like I'm gonna film it 1:22:17.240 --> 1:22:19.080 so I can prove it. And so that's how we 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:19.720 do things now. 1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:20.280 You know. 1:22:20.320 --> 1:22:23.519 It's just because you know it is you do get 1:22:23.560 --> 1:22:25.519 to claim the moment and you know, make it a 1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:27.720 part of your narrative when it's written down. 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:29.720 But not even I'm not even talking about like the 1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:32.000 like the recording. I'm just talking about like being there, 1:22:32.240 --> 1:22:35.679 like there's no cameras, You're just talking to a guy. Absolutely, 1:22:35.680 --> 1:22:39.240 and there's you're not making content. You're not like trying 1:22:39.280 --> 1:22:41.720 to steer the conversation in a way that makes it 1:22:41.800 --> 1:22:44.599 like for you. It's just for the moment in and 1:22:44.640 --> 1:22:47.040 of itself. Absolutely, And you know I still do that. 1:22:47.080 --> 1:22:49.439 You know, I still I still have an RV now 1:22:49.439 --> 1:22:51.760 that I take cross country trips in. I still sleep 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:54.200 in the back of my Tacoma Like, I still do that. 1:22:54.600 --> 1:22:57.120 But there's this part of me that misses that, just 1:22:57.160 --> 1:22:59.479 like full presence of course, because there's a part of 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:01.960 me now that thinks, to myself, wow, this would be 1:23:02.000 --> 1:23:04.760 so great on camera. And that's sort of a sad 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:07.320 thing because I'm like, man, I used to just be. 1:23:07.360 --> 1:23:09.360 Like happy to be there. Yeah. 1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:13.200 Of course, once you start making videos and start making content. 1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:14.840 Everything's like, oh, I should be filming this, right, and 1:23:14.920 --> 1:23:15.320 you know that. 1:23:15.320 --> 1:23:17.680 Like your audience would actually appreciate it. Of course, you're 1:23:17.720 --> 1:23:19.679 not like a self centered asshole who's like this would 1:23:19.760 --> 1:23:23.840 go so viral, like one hundred percent, this should be 1:23:23.920 --> 1:23:25.800 documented as a part of my experience because this is 1:23:25.840 --> 1:23:28.479 important to me in this time. But now I just, man, 1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:32.320 it's tough. You know, it makes me sad and happy. 1:23:32.320 --> 1:23:34.600 It's just there's not really an emotion to assigned to it. 1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:35.759 It's just the way things have changed. 1:23:35.880 --> 1:23:37.840 If I can feel that way about like talking to strangers, 1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:39.760 Like if I like strike up a conversation with someone 1:23:39.800 --> 1:23:42.120 at an airport or something and they tell me something interesting, 1:23:42.160 --> 1:23:44.960 I'm like, you know, I I'm like, oh, this would 1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:47.799 be like a cool conversation like for the podcast or whatever, 1:23:47.880 --> 1:23:50.360 but like there's something great about just doing it in 1:23:50.400 --> 1:23:51.920 and of itsself. 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:54.400 I think maybe over time that barrier will sort of 1:23:54.439 --> 1:23:57.200 dissipate because everything is going to be just filmed all 1:23:57.240 --> 1:23:57.519 the time. 1:23:57.560 --> 1:23:58.960 Oh, you're gonna be wearing gouglass. 1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:00.960 I think to be like point at which, like you know, 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:04.599 the current kids growing up who TikTok and live stream everything. Yeah, 1:24:04.640 --> 1:24:06.800 they're gonna be like, you know, fifty years old one day, 1:24:06.840 --> 1:24:09.160 and if they strike up a conversation at LAX, it 1:24:09.200 --> 1:24:11.120 won't be weird to just pull out a live streaming 1:24:11.160 --> 1:24:13.400 selfie stick and be like, yeah, so you know, when 1:24:13.400 --> 1:24:14.400 did you go into card shurance. 1:24:14.479 --> 1:24:17.599 Do you think that's sad? No, you think that's awesome. Yeah, 1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:18.720 hell yeah, I want to see that. I want to 1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:20.320 see that conversation, you know what. I love that I 1:24:20.360 --> 1:24:22.400 love I love that you're optimistic about it, because I 1:24:22.400 --> 1:24:25.439 feel like the default is to be upset about it. 1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:27.280 I'm so happy you didn't go down that rabbit hole 1:24:27.280 --> 1:24:29.160 where people say, like, don't you think it's sad that. 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:32.760 Everyone's on their phone? No? I like, I like, I 1:24:32.840 --> 1:24:34.439 mean it's great. I mean there's trade offs. I mean 1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:39.640 it's it's it's hard because the Internet, like you know, 1:24:40.720 --> 1:24:43.640 has democratized media. It's done so many amazing things. But 1:24:43.760 --> 1:24:45.880 also like you know, I hate when I'm hanging out 1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:48.040 with someone and they go on their phone. I hate 1:24:48.040 --> 1:24:49.320 when I'm hanging out with on and I go on 1:24:49.360 --> 1:24:51.160 my phone. Yeah, it's just basic social stuff. 1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:53.040 I don't want to like chill with you if we're 1:24:53.040 --> 1:24:54.919 both on our phone like doom scrolling Instagram. 1:24:55.160 --> 1:24:57.559 Yeah, hey man, it's just the way things are going. 1:24:57.800 --> 1:25:00.800 Complaining about it is just lame, you know, Like it's 1:25:00.800 --> 1:25:02.200 always people who don't who are. 1:25:02.120 --> 1:25:06.080 Like trying to become famous too, that want to. Yeah, 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:09.160 that that like preached down in our life. 1:25:09.200 --> 1:25:11.080 They hit that wall and they were like Andrew, like, 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:13.400 you know, do you ever get tired of just making 1:25:13.880 --> 1:25:16.519 video after video and want to just takes some time 1:25:16.560 --> 1:25:18.960 for yourself. It's like I make one video a month, 1:25:19.600 --> 1:25:22.000 you know what I mean, I'm not streaming for ten 1:25:22.040 --> 1:25:23.680 hours a day. Like I take a ton of time 1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:24.160 for myself. 1:25:24.240 --> 1:25:26.000 Right, But do you do you not like you know, 1:25:26.200 --> 1:25:28.320 I mean your whole you know, you talk a lot 1:25:28.360 --> 1:25:30.400 of current events. Yeah, you're talking about like things are 1:25:30.400 --> 1:25:32.160 going on in the world. Does it not require you 1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:36.120 to be not constantly, but like to be keeping an 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:38.439 eye on what's going on on once a day? 1:25:38.760 --> 1:25:40.600 Do you do you do once a day once a 1:25:40.680 --> 1:25:42.479 day for like the heavy news update. 1:25:42.640 --> 1:25:44.759 Okay, Like and when I when I dive. 1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:46.960 Into like the news section on my phone, it'll be 1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:49.640 a pretty heavy deep dive, like forty five minutes of 1:25:49.720 --> 1:25:51.519 just like what the hell's going on this week? 1:25:51.600 --> 1:25:54.560 How often are you just like act like catching yourself 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:56.760 on the Instagram story of a person you went to 1:25:56.800 --> 1:25:59.240 high school that you don't care about, probably twenty five 1:25:59.320 --> 1:26:02.800 times a day. That that's the stuff that I don't like. 1:26:03.000 --> 1:26:05.519 But that's where I'm like, I should I should have. 1:26:05.680 --> 1:26:08.400 That's up to me to not be addicted to it. 1:26:08.520 --> 1:26:11.559 Yeah, man, I mean you have a cool thing going on. 1:26:11.680 --> 1:26:13.280 Oh this is awesome. You interact? 1:26:13.840 --> 1:26:16.280 Yeah with Instagram in a way that is cool because 1:26:16.280 --> 1:26:19.880 you're creating stuff. That's the big difference. Like consumer versus 1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:21.200 creator is a totally different vibe. 1:26:21.200 --> 1:26:23.760 But here's the thing, and that's how I justify it, Okay, 1:26:23.800 --> 1:26:27.240 because if you took all of my Instagram use or 1:26:28.000 --> 1:26:31.720 online use and uh and I justify it, I'm like, 1:26:31.760 --> 1:26:33.679 this is my job. I have to I'm on Instagram. 1:26:33.680 --> 1:26:34.639 I have to look at it. I have to see 1:26:34.640 --> 1:26:37.120 how the new video do whatever it is. This stuff 1:26:37.120 --> 1:26:40.080 that's like necessary to complete the function of this is 1:26:40.120 --> 1:26:44.439 maybe maybe like one percent and the rest is you know, 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:46.960 hang seeing dude. I mean for sure, it's funny. 1:26:47.000 --> 1:26:49.559 Like yes, if I you know, reading news, like I 1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:51.960 spend most of my time on my phone, like reading 1:26:51.960 --> 1:26:55.719 about watching YouTube videos about like beef between rappers, Yeah, 1:26:55.920 --> 1:26:59.680 better call Saul fan theories. Yeah, scenes from the Dark 1:26:59.760 --> 1:27:02.360 Knight mm hmm. That's what I consume. You know, I 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:05.559 don't really read the news. I just I'm into like 1:27:05.600 --> 1:27:06.360 weird shit like that. 1:27:07.160 --> 1:27:10.720 Do you so you'll consume stuff like that and like 1:27:10.960 --> 1:27:16.200 super niche shit. Yeah, like I follow like la rap beef. Well, 1:27:16.200 --> 1:27:17.720 I feel like you would have to have something to 1:27:17.840 --> 1:27:20.000 like because you're always your whole thing is like about 1:27:20.000 --> 1:27:23.000 the news. I feel like you would have to you know, 1:27:23.120 --> 1:27:26.400 your hobbies would be things that are completely unrelated to me. Yeah. 1:27:26.439 --> 1:27:30.080 It feels rebellious to like just watch watch TV breaking 1:27:30.120 --> 1:27:31.920 bad fan theories for ninety minutes. 1:27:32.000 --> 1:27:34.280 Yeah, well everyone's like you go to read about this 1:27:34.360 --> 1:27:36.760 and like right, right to watch something that you don't 1:27:36.800 --> 1:27:40.320 have to justify in some way. Yeah, for sure, that's nice. 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:41.840 That's kind of been my refuge lately. 1:27:41.880 --> 1:27:44.800 Also with all the craziness is like the Better Call 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:45.599 Saul series? 1:27:46.200 --> 1:27:47.960 Do you contribute to the forms? 1:27:48.560 --> 1:27:51.120 No? I should though, because like I like, I think 1:27:51.120 --> 1:27:52.320 about the characters often. 1:27:53.320 --> 1:28:01.000 Let's talk to Robbie. Robbie. Oh, well, how you doing, Robbie? 1:28:01.000 --> 1:28:01.320 You good? 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:02.960 I was just dirty. 1:28:03.600 --> 1:28:08.920 Yeah, yeah it's good man. How are you doing. 1:28:08.960 --> 1:28:11.080 Thank you so much for Thank you so much for 1:28:11.240 --> 1:28:13.760 calling in. We appreciate it. This is Andrew and this 1:28:13.840 --> 1:28:14.240 is Lyle. 1:28:17.720 --> 1:28:17.840 Uh. 1:28:19.280 --> 1:28:22.160 It's really good talking you guys because, uh, this is 1:28:22.600 --> 1:28:23.559 my first time being on. 1:28:25.240 --> 1:28:27.759 Oh, we're happy to have you. Well, don't feel nervous 1:28:27.840 --> 1:28:29.400 or anything. It's just us here. 1:28:32.120 --> 1:28:33.919 I am nervous. 1:28:34.680 --> 1:28:36.960 It's okay. We're gonna make this as easy as we can. 1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:40.760 For you. It's totally totally show. It's just you and 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:45.040 two geckos. Robbie, all right, Uh, is it okay if 1:28:45.080 --> 1:28:50.360 I tell the people what you told the call screener. Yes, Robbie, 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:52.479 it's us here that you are having trouble talking to 1:28:52.560 --> 1:28:56.680 women and you need some advice. Mm hmm, well just 1:28:56.760 --> 1:28:57.400 off the batman. 1:28:57.479 --> 1:29:00.920 You seem like a super sweet guy, very kind person 1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:03.479 does so you've already got that going for you. I 1:29:03.520 --> 1:29:07.960 think men and women both like that quality out of curiosity? 1:29:08.000 --> 1:29:09.639 You know what? What? 1:29:09.640 --> 1:29:12.360 What do you find the most difficult? Is it the approach? 1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:14.360 Is it maintaining the conversation? 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:16.880 Which is it? 1:29:18.360 --> 1:29:23.800 I think maintaining the conversation the approach is difficult as well. 1:29:24.160 --> 1:29:27.840 But uh, I feel like whenever I could go up 1:29:28.240 --> 1:29:31.759 to someone, I just don't like I just have nothing 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:33.439 to say. All I can't think of anything? 1:29:34.880 --> 1:29:36.000 Yeah? 1:29:36.080 --> 1:29:39.400 Absolutely, But you're not scared to, you know, say hey, 1:29:39.439 --> 1:29:39.920 what's up? 1:29:40.000 --> 1:29:42.200 You know, my name's Robbie. What's your name? 1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:47.000 Maybe? Kind of. 1:29:48.400 --> 1:29:51.559 Can I ask? What? What if any situations are you 1:29:51.600 --> 1:29:54.680 putting yourself in in which you you have the opportunity 1:29:54.720 --> 1:29:55.519 to meet new people? 1:29:58.120 --> 1:30:01.120 Uh, mainly your work, I guess because I don't really 1:30:01.520 --> 1:30:04.960 go out on my days off work at Walmart. 1:30:05.040 --> 1:30:09.840 So yeah, work work is a hard work is a 1:30:09.840 --> 1:30:13.519 really hard place to like talk to girls, for sure, 1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:16.559 because like, you know, the employee the co worker thing 1:30:16.760 --> 1:30:20.920 is already pretty messy, and then talking to customers is 1:30:20.960 --> 1:30:24.080 just kind of weird, you know, because like I remember, 1:30:24.560 --> 1:30:26.800 unless you work at a restaurant, but if you work 1:30:26.840 --> 1:30:29.800 in the retail industry, it's very transactional. 1:30:32.280 --> 1:30:35.640 Yeah, yeah, definitely neither I feel like neither the customers 1:30:35.680 --> 1:30:38.920 nor the co workers are like, yeah that you you 1:30:38.960 --> 1:30:42.080 want to meet people in places where people go to 1:30:42.240 --> 1:30:45.360 meet people. Yeah, mm hmm. 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:48.600 Robbie, would you would you ever consider working like in 1:30:48.680 --> 1:30:51.559 the service industry, like a front of house position at 1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:52.639 like a popular restaurant. 1:30:56.560 --> 1:30:59.400 M probably not. 1:31:00.600 --> 1:31:02.680 I think that it might be uncomfortable at first, but 1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:04.920 I think that a job like that would really help 1:31:04.960 --> 1:31:07.920 you get outside of your comfort zone and like get 1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:10.840 you more familiarized with like having to talk to like 1:31:10.920 --> 1:31:13.280 tons of people. Before I did interviews, I was a 1:31:13.320 --> 1:31:16.479 host at a restaurant on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:19.240 and we used to do six hundred and fifty covers 1:31:19.280 --> 1:31:21.680 a night, and my whole job was to be like, hey, 1:31:21.720 --> 1:31:23.880 how are you doing? Welcome to Bourbon house. I think 1:31:23.920 --> 1:31:25.720 that got me. But when I first took the job, 1:31:25.760 --> 1:31:27.519 I was like, I'm gonna be so bad at this. 1:31:27.560 --> 1:31:30.679 I'm gonna be so nervous. And over time I got 1:31:30.720 --> 1:31:32.920 so used to it that, like when I got off work, 1:31:33.479 --> 1:31:34.040 I was like a. 1:31:34.040 --> 1:31:36.639 Social you just kept the train, just kept going. Yeah, 1:31:36.640 --> 1:31:39.360 you kept the momentum going until I after work. Yeah. 1:31:39.439 --> 1:31:41.400 Would that be something that you would just consider even 1:31:41.439 --> 1:31:43.080 for you know, a training shift or something. 1:31:45.560 --> 1:31:47.960 It could it would be possibility. 1:31:48.800 --> 1:31:50.360 I think it would be fun for you, man, and 1:31:50.560 --> 1:31:52.640 maybe maybe a restaurant that you actually like. 1:31:54.200 --> 1:31:55.200 Can I ask you too, Robbie? 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:57.160 Do you a very introverted person? 1:31:58.080 --> 1:31:59.960 So just kind of do like just like forgetting about 1:32:00.120 --> 1:32:02.320 like you know, dating and relationships and stuff like do 1:32:02.400 --> 1:32:04.400 you do you have Like do you have friends? 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:06.599 Yeah? 1:32:07.439 --> 1:32:12.880 Okay, it's best best friends. 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:16.960 Necessarily small circle of friends, Like I have a few 1:32:17.000 --> 1:32:19.680 groups here, a few groups here, but that's basically I 1:32:19.680 --> 1:32:22.080 don't have a massive friend group. 1:32:23.520 --> 1:32:25.240 How many how many people do you think are in 1:32:25.280 --> 1:32:26.960 your core group of friends? 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:30.519 Like six seven? 1:32:31.720 --> 1:32:32.240 That's cool? 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:34.160 And are they more introverted as well? 1:32:37.479 --> 1:32:38.080 It's a mix. 1:32:39.920 --> 1:32:41.320 What kind of stuff do you guys do when you 1:32:41.360 --> 1:32:45.360 hang out? 1:32:45.720 --> 1:32:53.120 Mainly just go out the ear? Uh, go do something 1:32:53.880 --> 1:32:55.880 and something. Mainly most of the time we just play 1:32:55.920 --> 1:32:56.639 video games together. 1:32:57.680 --> 1:33:00.639 That's cool. I mean, do you like bars or not? Really? 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:04.519 I've been to a few, but. 1:33:08.160 --> 1:33:08.840 It's eh. 1:33:11.520 --> 1:33:13.840 Do you have hot Like? What do you do for hobbies? Like? 1:33:13.880 --> 1:33:18.559 Do you sports? Arts, magic, the gathering? What's your thing? 1:33:21.600 --> 1:33:25.000 Mainly do this video games in the days off? Sometimes 1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:28.120 I do D and D stuff like that. 1:33:29.200 --> 1:33:29.519 M hm. 1:33:30.800 --> 1:33:34.080 Because because I've always I've always felt like I've always 1:33:34.120 --> 1:33:37.320 felt like when it comes to like meeting people, especially 1:33:37.360 --> 1:33:38.679 if you're like trying to get in to a relationship 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:42.639 or something, it's like you kind of like independently build 1:33:42.840 --> 1:33:46.720 a life that people gravitate around or like where you're 1:33:46.760 --> 1:33:49.120 in a lot of situations where around people more so 1:33:49.200 --> 1:33:52.600 than you do like do like anything done like with 1:33:52.800 --> 1:33:55.479 the intention of trying to meet women, I feel like 1:33:55.479 --> 1:33:56.880 it never goes very well. 1:33:59.000 --> 1:34:00.640 Robbie, do you do you live in the south of 1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:01.920 the Midwest? 1:34:03.920 --> 1:34:04.280 Uh? 1:34:04.920 --> 1:34:05.240 East? 1:34:05.800 --> 1:34:06.559 Um, North Carolina? 1:34:07.439 --> 1:34:11.920 Okay, so south basically southeast. You know the thing about 1:34:11.920 --> 1:34:14.400 North Carolina, what's the nearest major. 1:34:14.160 --> 1:34:14.800 City to you. 1:34:17.120 --> 1:34:18.760 Uh, nearest major. 1:34:19.040 --> 1:34:22.519 Yeah, closer to Charlotte. Yeah, and it's a tough place 1:34:22.880 --> 1:34:26.280 to socialize, you know. But I mean, do you do 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:29.360 you find that people have that like southern hospitality around you? 1:34:29.400 --> 1:34:31.240 Like is there a lot of pleasantries exchanged in your 1:34:31.280 --> 1:34:33.599 day to day or people in your community more closed off? 1:34:39.680 --> 1:34:40.559 I really sure? 1:34:42.000 --> 1:34:46.800 M hmm. I also feel like, you know, I mean 1:34:46.800 --> 1:34:48.920 you were talking about the bars and stuff. I feel like, 1:34:50.479 --> 1:34:52.439 do you do you want do you want to meet 1:34:52.439 --> 1:34:56.280 somebody who is on your sort of same level of 1:34:56.360 --> 1:35:00.479 introversion or are you looking for you know, sort of 1:35:00.760 --> 1:35:04.439 a compliment to you personality wise? 1:35:08.360 --> 1:35:10.679 I feel like it'd be nice to have someone who's 1:35:10.720 --> 1:35:15.160 introverted as me. But also I feel like the other way, 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:18.120 like the other spectrum would also work, just to help 1:35:18.160 --> 1:35:19.920 me get out there maybe more. I don't know. 1:35:20.439 --> 1:35:23.280 Okay, how about this? Would you rather have someone to 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:25.840 bring you out of your shell? Or would you rather 1:35:26.080 --> 1:35:30.160 just be like two turtles chilling together? 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:36.599 I feel like getting out of my shell. 1:35:36.640 --> 1:35:41.800 One you're looking for like an extrovert that understands you 1:35:42.000 --> 1:35:43.519 and can you know, like help you. 1:35:43.720 --> 1:35:48.599 Put yourself out there? Yeah, well, dude, I think you're 1:35:48.640 --> 1:35:49.280 gonna find it. 1:35:49.400 --> 1:35:52.519 I don't know exactly when it's gonna come, but there's 1:35:52.520 --> 1:35:53.479 a lot of people like that. 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:56.360 There are. And here here's the key to that, though, 1:35:56.479 --> 1:35:58.960 is like you got all right, so you gotta like, 1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:02.720 let's like verbally your car is dead. You gotta get 1:36:02.760 --> 1:36:06.200 out and start pushing it first, in order for someone 1:36:06.240 --> 1:36:07.840 to see you and help you push it, you know 1:36:07.880 --> 1:36:10.240 what I'm saying. So, yeah, you gotta sort of take 1:36:10.280 --> 1:36:12.680 your own initiative on putting yourself out there just a 1:36:12.720 --> 1:36:15.719 little bit in order for you to try to find 1:36:15.720 --> 1:36:16.680 someone to help you with that. 1:36:18.640 --> 1:36:21.639 Okay, Yeah, I would say find some find some coffee 1:36:21.640 --> 1:36:24.439 shops that you like nearby. Next time you want to 1:36:24.479 --> 1:36:28.519 work on something, go there, open up your laptop, get 1:36:28.520 --> 1:36:31.559 a coffee. Just get used to being in the public sphere, 1:36:31.640 --> 1:36:32.599 even if you're silent. 1:36:33.160 --> 1:36:34.800 That'll help you a lot. I've had some foods you 1:36:34.800 --> 1:36:35.120 were shy. 1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:37.920 I just get used to being somewhere where like you're 1:36:37.960 --> 1:36:41.360 maybe you're maybe still closed off, but you are exposed 1:36:41.400 --> 1:36:44.599 physically around here, physically exposed to the world, you know, 1:36:45.280 --> 1:36:48.280 and maybe you might strike up a conversation. But you know, 1:36:48.360 --> 1:36:53.559 between working at Walmart and having like your group of 1:36:53.640 --> 1:36:57.519 seven friends who you mainly I'm assuming play video games 1:36:57.520 --> 1:37:00.439 with and like chill inside. That's kind of a hard 1:37:00.640 --> 1:37:03.200 you know, gridlock for you to like meet someone who's 1:37:03.240 --> 1:37:06.080 gonna bring you to that next stage. So dude, just 1:37:06.120 --> 1:37:09.439 coffee shops, bars, and for sure, I guarantee you if 1:37:09.439 --> 1:37:13.200 you if you worked out like Cheesecake Factory, you'd become 1:37:13.280 --> 1:37:15.200 like a social savant four months. 1:37:16.000 --> 1:37:17.800 She say, factory sounds like a better place to work 1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:18.880 than Walmart. It does. 1:37:19.400 --> 1:37:23.400 But you know, although the buzzers sort of make me nervous, buzzers, 1:37:23.439 --> 1:37:26.679 oh the little things, Cheesecake Factory assigns you that buzzer box, 1:37:26.720 --> 1:37:29.280 and yeah, it's the most intense. 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:32.360 Vibration I've ever experienced. Really, when that thing starts going, 1:37:32.400 --> 1:37:35.479 it's going, then you can't even like turn it off. 1:37:35.640 --> 1:37:37.559 So I wouldn't want to get near those things if 1:37:37.560 --> 1:37:39.960 I worked at cheesecake Factory, you know, I'd be like, 1:37:40.040 --> 1:37:42.200 you know, put them in the bucket for somebody else. 1:37:42.560 --> 1:37:44.639 So Robbie, you know, over the course of this call, 1:37:44.680 --> 1:37:46.400 we've told you a bunch of things. We've thrown a 1:37:46.400 --> 1:37:48.920 bunch of actions out at you, We've thrown a bunch 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:51.040 of ideas out of you, like before we go, like, 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:53.120 what's what's sort of your take on what we've told you? 1:37:55.720 --> 1:37:55.880 Oh? 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:58.320 Yeah, I think I think you're right about it. Might 1:37:59.320 --> 1:38:02.400 give myself or go to a Starbucks or something, see 1:38:03.040 --> 1:38:03.799 what can happen. 1:38:05.040 --> 1:38:07.599 Go to the good to the busiest Starbucks in downtown 1:38:07.720 --> 1:38:11.720 Charlotte and just just kick it there. Dude, even if 1:38:11.760 --> 1:38:13.559 you don't make a friend, you're going to be entertained 1:38:13.680 --> 1:38:14.080 for sure. 1:38:14.160 --> 1:38:16.280 You know. It's a lot like it's like when people say, like, 1:38:17.080 --> 1:38:19.439 if you're trying to start working out, just go to 1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:20.040 the gym. 1:38:20.160 --> 1:38:22.559 Yeah, just go there, even if you're making fun of 1:38:22.600 --> 1:38:24.760 the people at the gym. Yeah, you'll eventually hop on 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:27.599 the elliptical and sweat your ass off. 1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:29.880 Yeah you don't. Yeah, you just go there. Don't feel 1:38:29.880 --> 1:38:32.599 like you pressured to do any workouts or lift anything. 1:38:32.640 --> 1:38:34.920 You just go to a Starbucks, man, and just just 1:38:35.040 --> 1:38:36.280 you know, chill for a bit. 1:38:36.560 --> 1:38:39.919 You know, don't call your friends, just go by yourself 1:38:39.920 --> 1:38:41.599 and just kick it whenever you have some free time. 1:38:43.920 --> 1:38:47.840 Okay, thank you, Thank you, Robbie. 1:38:47.840 --> 1:38:49.640 Anything else you want to say to the people of 1:38:49.680 --> 1:38:53.280 the computer or to two geckos. 1:38:52.920 --> 1:38:56.880 Uh, well, I've I'm almost finished with your with your 1:38:57.080 --> 1:39:01.800 therapy GECKU Podcast three more. I'm completely caught up. 1:39:02.400 --> 1:39:09.679 Thank you to the whole time. Yes, sir Andrew, Yes, just. 1:39:09.600 --> 1:39:12.360 Now looked at your YouTube channel. Might might give it a. 1:39:13.880 --> 1:39:14.120 Look. 1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:18.400 Well like it, man, I appreciate it for real, you should. 1:39:18.439 --> 1:39:19.599 He's got good stuff on there. 1:39:21.280 --> 1:39:24.799 Oh well, well, thank you for having me. 1:39:25.280 --> 1:39:27.439 Of course, man for being confident coming out here. 1:39:27.439 --> 1:39:29.280 That's step one. Take care, Robie. 1:39:30.200 --> 1:39:34.240 Yeah, it was hard. Say you guys got man. 1:39:35.040 --> 1:39:37.680 That guy's so sweet man he is. I don't think 1:39:37.680 --> 1:39:39.360 we got to him though, No, I don't think so. 1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:41.000 I don't think he's going to take any action from 1:39:41.040 --> 1:39:41.639 the things I. 1:39:41.560 --> 1:39:45.639 Was trying to work thing, the region thing, the like thing. 1:39:45.720 --> 1:39:47.599 But it's just going to happen over time. 1:39:48.040 --> 1:39:49.840 I say that every time we get a call like that, 1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:52.000 I say I would say the same thing. I'm like you, 1:39:52.120 --> 1:39:55.400 it's anything done with the intention of like trying to 1:39:55.400 --> 1:39:56.920 be people never work. So you just have to like 1:39:57.000 --> 1:39:59.439 build your life in a way in which you're around 1:39:59.560 --> 1:40:01.600 people in which you're like like that guy, like he 1:40:01.640 --> 1:40:05.680 plays D and D. It's like fucking start some like 1:40:05.680 --> 1:40:07.640 like it's like you probably play with your friends, go 1:40:07.680 --> 1:40:09.519 to the coffee shop, but can I start a local 1:40:09.600 --> 1:40:11.519 D and D league? And then like and then not 1:40:11.600 --> 1:40:14.000 only are you in, you're like the guy you're the 1:40:14.040 --> 1:40:15.439 president of the D and D league. You got a 1:40:15.479 --> 1:40:16.879 little bit of status now. 1:40:17.120 --> 1:40:20.439 Yeah, dude, also like being raised, I guess like an 1:40:20.479 --> 1:40:24.280 Italian American like Philadelphia family. Originally, like when people start 1:40:24.320 --> 1:40:26.760 getting shy, I have this impulse to get kind of 1:40:26.800 --> 1:40:29.080 like like pick yourself up. 1:40:29.000 --> 1:40:31.519 By Are you a motivational guy? No? 1:40:31.640 --> 1:40:34.040 But then I realized it doesn't work with an introvert 1:40:34.439 --> 1:40:35.519 do you like what do you mean? 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:37.639 I don't know? You do know you're the man? 1:40:37.960 --> 1:40:40.240 That kind of stuff is not effective if someone's like 1:40:40.320 --> 1:40:42.559 kind of in a shell. But I think that over time, man, 1:40:42.640 --> 1:40:45.720 Robbie will just like it'll just happen. Certain people are 1:40:45.760 --> 1:40:47.880 sort of impervious to advice, but just the sands of 1:40:47.960 --> 1:40:48.719 time put them. 1:40:48.560 --> 1:40:50.880 In a position, you know. I wonder with all the 1:40:50.920 --> 1:40:53.360 time on this podcast And then and I ask people this, 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:56.200 it's like when people like if if I were a 1:40:56.240 --> 1:40:58.880 real therapist and someone came to me, like what what 1:40:58.960 --> 1:41:02.840 is like what should real therapist say? Like, like if 1:41:02.840 --> 1:41:06.720 you've done all the research into like social psychology, and 1:41:07.040 --> 1:41:09.439 the the whatever, the neurons and shit like what would 1:41:09.439 --> 1:41:10.320 you tell that guy? 1:41:10.720 --> 1:41:10.920 Right? 1:41:11.360 --> 1:41:11.920 I have no idea. 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:14.040 I think the reason that we're maybe better than is 1:41:14.080 --> 1:41:17.240 a lot of therapists is because we actually tell them 1:41:17.320 --> 1:41:20.240 everything about our own experiences. Every time that I went 1:41:20.240 --> 1:41:22.679 to therapy growing up, I was always kind of turned 1:41:22.720 --> 1:41:25.599 off because the therapist would just be like a brick 1:41:25.680 --> 1:41:28.120 wall when it came to like tell me about your life, 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:29.280 and it was always. 1:41:29.040 --> 1:41:29.639 Hard to level. 1:41:29.840 --> 1:41:32.559 Whereas I feel like we are like you know, especially 1:41:32.560 --> 1:41:35.720 you you're like an informal therapist, so you can be like, yeah, man, 1:41:35.720 --> 1:41:37.439 I had a similar experience back in the day. 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:40.160 I have no code of conduct, like I could tell 1:41:40.200 --> 1:41:42.320 you exactly, I can tell you where I live. 1:41:43.360 --> 1:41:45.559 Have you gone to do you? Do you still go 1:41:45.600 --> 1:41:47.320 to therapy? I know I'm about to start. Yeah. 1:41:47.360 --> 1:41:49.480 I go to therapy irregularly. 1:41:49.960 --> 1:41:52.200 When I was going through some stuff a year ago, 1:41:52.479 --> 1:41:54.680 like I went to therapy like all the time. But 1:41:54.720 --> 1:41:56.680 now I'm going to start again because why not? 1:41:56.920 --> 1:41:58.240 What made you? What made you stop? 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:01.760 I just started doing really well, well, you know, just 1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:04.680 things kind of after so much therapy, I was like, oh, 1:42:04.680 --> 1:42:07.760 I'm a lot happier now. I mean COVID was a 1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:09.960 tough time for everybody. For sure, that was one of 1:42:10.000 --> 1:42:13.439 those people. And uh yeah, start doing so good that 1:42:13.479 --> 1:42:13.800 I was. 1:42:13.760 --> 1:42:16.520 Like, all right, I'm good. It's expensive. 1:42:16.960 --> 1:42:18.439 It is when we come back to this one, I 1:42:18.479 --> 1:42:20.280 have some some serious issues. 1:42:20.400 --> 1:42:24.240 Do you journal I know your whole No, man, I don't. 1:42:24.280 --> 1:42:25.519 I should though, for real. 1:42:25.920 --> 1:42:27.599 I have a lot of fleeting thoughts that I wish 1:42:27.640 --> 1:42:29.320 I could come back to, but they're gone. 1:42:29.800 --> 1:42:31.519 I feel like because you're doing a lot of like 1:42:31.720 --> 1:42:35.240 documenting with the camera. Yes, you're almost like if I 1:42:35.400 --> 1:42:36.760 were doing that, I would almost be like, all right, 1:42:36.760 --> 1:42:38.559 well we got it. I don't need to write about this. Yeah, 1:42:38.680 --> 1:42:41.120 but but but your feelings are like a whole other 1:42:41.200 --> 1:42:43.439 your feelings about what happened, or like a whole other 1:42:43.520 --> 1:42:46.120 layer and then just like the what happened, you know 1:42:46.160 --> 1:42:49.400 what I'm saying, dude? For sure, definitely, Andrew, Man, it's 1:42:50.120 --> 1:42:51.760 it's been awesome to have you on here. Like I 1:42:51.800 --> 1:42:54.599 said it before, I said it when you were taking 1:42:54.600 --> 1:42:57.000 a pee, but's it's really awesome to see you, like, 1:42:57.479 --> 1:43:00.320 you know, doing your own like like doing what you do, 1:43:00.439 --> 1:43:02.320 but coming into this space and doing it with the 1:43:02.320 --> 1:43:04.960 people that watch you know the stream and it's it's 1:43:04.960 --> 1:43:06.559 been awesome. Man, I've been sick. Dude. 1:43:06.760 --> 1:43:08.600 I don't go on that much stuff, but I'm a 1:43:08.680 --> 1:43:11.160 huge fan of this. Fuck yah, shout out to you. 1:43:11.720 --> 1:43:13.760 Thank you man, get go lifestyle. 1:43:13.960 --> 1:43:16.519 There anything that you want to want to fire off 1:43:16.560 --> 1:43:18.800 say to the people before we get out of here. 1:43:18.840 --> 1:43:21.800 Any final thoughts, feelings, just the sentiments. 1:43:21.880 --> 1:43:25.120 Thank you guys for watching. That's about it. I don't 1:43:25.120 --> 1:43:29.960 have any plugs. Awesome Channel five Channel five News with 1:43:30.360 --> 1:43:34.160 Calaham Channel Channel five Live worldwide, Hollywood. 1:43:33.640 --> 1:43:37.720 And Vine beautiful. You look great and green? You look 1:43:37.760 --> 1:43:38.360 great and green? 1:43:38.960 --> 1:43:41.320 Oh peoples don't know. I got the fuzzy on it? 1:43:41.560 --> 1:43:44.479 Oh you do? Yeah you can? I can? I feel 1:43:44.520 --> 1:43:50.720 those real quick? That's night. Where'd you get these? The 1:43:51.520 --> 1:43:52.920 green screen is making it crazy? 1:43:52.960 --> 1:43:56.120 But I got the fuzzy wuzzies on the Fish air Forces. 1:43:56.960 --> 1:44:01.120 I got them at a fish concert. Grateful day, ad 1:44:01.160 --> 1:44:03.840 air Force a fish fan. I wouldn't have a fish fan, 1:44:04.040 --> 1:44:05.840 but I went to a fish show and had fun. 1:44:06.040 --> 1:44:10.280 Okay, so that's something a fan would do, is go 1:44:10.320 --> 1:44:12.639 to a their concert and have fun. So you upload 1:44:12.640 --> 1:44:13.960 his on YouTube as well? I do? 1:44:14.160 --> 1:44:16.200 Oh yes, dude, you shorten them at all. 1:44:16.280 --> 1:44:18.760 You just yeah, we we shorten them. Like, how long 1:44:18.800 --> 1:44:20.800 have you this been too? It's been about two hours. 1:44:20.800 --> 1:44:24.640 Share this ship out of this one. Fuck yeah, fuck yeah. 1:44:24.640 --> 1:44:28.200 This is fun to do. Andrew Man, thank you very 1:44:28.240 --> 1:44:29.840 much for coming on. Thank you for having me on. 1:44:33.640 --> 1:44:37.360 Take care of folks at home. Good luck, gak bless you, 1:44:38.240 --> 1:44:41.080 and I have a good night. I have a good one, y'all. 1:44:42.880 --> 1:44:46.080 Goes on the line taking your phone calls every night. 1:44:46.439 --> 1:44:49.600 Everything goes to his eye. He's teaching you loud in 1:44:50.080 --> 1:44:54.920 your life. He's not read an expert.