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Speaker 1: I want to get into the Brian Coberger case. Today.

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Speaker 1: He was sentenced to life without parole for killing those

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Speaker 1: four college girls up in Idaho, and they had the

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Speaker 1: where members of the family and friends got to tear

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Speaker 1: into Coburger and a couple of them really tore in.

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Speaker 1: It was really emotional. Even the judge started crying. I'll

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Speaker 1: get that in a second. This is something I'm going

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Speaker 1: to return to later. So there's a Whole Foods near me,

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Speaker 1: which I am forced to go to occasionally.

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Speaker 1: Well, I am forced against my will when my wife

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Speaker 1: It's like, what is this? You know, we get helicopters constantly.

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Speaker 1: They were there when I woke up this morning because

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Speaker 1: front of the Whole Foods, one homeless guy stabbed another

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Speaker 1: homeless guy to death. Both of them were military veterans.

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Speaker 1: Because we got that big what do you call it,

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Speaker 1: And eventually, after I think four years, they were finally

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Speaker 1: I don't give special protection because you're a veteran. I

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Speaker 2: And that guy's running around your neighborhood right now?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, you know, my wife has about

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Speaker 2: Don't you do that anyway, left to my devices.

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Speaker 1: No, well, the doors are locked. I don't pull all

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Speaker 1: It's been invaded. It's been Can you imagine like in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so annoying those helicopters. They are annoying.

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Speaker 2: Don't you care that you're bothering people in their homes. No,

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Speaker 1: Though, well you love to see that. That's That's what

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Speaker 1: Well by you know by six the next morning, the

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Speaker 1: Do you give you a shot of a grocery store

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Speaker 3: All right, got that out of my sn okay now, yes,

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Speaker 3: oh you know what I did though, And I should

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Speaker 3: have brought it for you. I smudged myself over and

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Speaker 2: Mind out of the gutter.

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Speaker 3: It's sage, and you know just because I get so

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Speaker 3: you know how amped up I get, and I talked

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Speaker 3: brought some and I should have smudged you today.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would love to have been sponged by you.

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Speaker 1: That's where you wave the sage in the air and

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did that for about a half an hour

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it kind of just cleanses the mind.

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Speaker 2: He does, yes, he does, yes.

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Speaker 1: He seemed normal.

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Speaker 2: No, no, God, no he's not.

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Speaker 3: And then I thought, wow, I haven't done that in

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Speaker 1: Is your husband home when you do this?

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Speaker 2: He was just looking at me. Yeah he was last night.

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Speaker 1: So he's trying to normal to me. He's used to me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, come on, man, I picture your husband

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Speaker 1: He Wow. Good choice on his part, boy. Wow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: did you tell him that when you were dating that

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Speaker 1: it's probably something that keeps yourself more. Coming up, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into the Coburger case.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 1: Bright Coburger officially got sentenced today. He's the uh sicko

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Speaker 1: who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death all

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Speaker 1: the way back in twenty twenty two. My god, I

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Speaker 1: believe how time is flying. By November thirteenth, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: it was three girls and one of the girl's boyfriends,

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Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonkalvaz, Madison Mogan, Xena Carnoodle, and Carnodle's boyfriend Ethan Chapman,

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Speaker 1: all stabbed to death in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: You're probably familiar with this case. And the prosecutor chickened

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Speaker 1: this forgiveness stuff. It should be revenge retribution. They should

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Speaker 1: That's the way they ought to be killed. Merciless stabbing,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, as a parent, I really

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Speaker 3: Why why this time and why this night? Why my kid?

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Speaker 1: running around with a girlfriend, right, you kill your wife

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Speaker 3: I'd want to hear from him. I'd want to say,

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Speaker 1: They should have beat him until he said something. I

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Caroline Levett, the Press secretary for President Trump,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just beat him until he stops. Get those water

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Speaker 1: you use the talkback feature again on this all purpose

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Oh, the Benandez brothers came up in your newscast. Yes,

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Speaker 1: these are two. More like to give them, obviously, the

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Speaker 1: what happens because they weren't sentenced to death. Now they

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Speaker 3: Uh, the one that's in the hospital, Eric, Eric, they're

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Speaker 1: All I know now is one as hair and one's bald.

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Speaker 1: So Eric's been been released to a hospital for kidney stones.

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Speaker 3: Come on, now, I've never had a kidney stone. My

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Speaker 1: guys having dysfunctional relationship or dysfunctional feelings towards women. There's

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Speaker 2: All quite right.

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Speaker 1: Here's another one. So now the Wall Street Journal has

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Speaker 1: this exclusive about the Jeffrey Epstein case. When the Attorney General,

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, finally went through the documents earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: and this may explain some of the behavior you've seen

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Speaker 1: out of the White House in recent weeks. They discovered

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump's name appeared multiple times. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this means anything, because it's been documented for

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Speaker 1: twenty years that Trump and Epstein were close buddies and

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Speaker 1: they had I read I read the other day that

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Speaker 1: they had they put on a party, two guys, untold

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Speaker 1: number of hot young women. They were the two guys.

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Speaker 1: They hosted the party, and eventually Trump kicked Epstein out

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Speaker 1: of the club in mar A Lago, supposedly because Epstein

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Speaker 1: members and Trump thought that that was a little much.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of big names in these Epstein files,

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Speaker 1: according to the Wall Street Journal, whatever their sources were,

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people mentioned in the records

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Speaker 1: because who didn't necessarily do anything bad. It's who Epstein

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Speaker 1: hung out with. He hung out with some famous people

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Speaker 1: because he supplied girls. There were other famous people he

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Speaker 1: hung out with because he had a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: and he also wanted to run in those circles. The

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Speaker 1: official said that there was a briefing Trump was told

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Speaker 1: Trump's appearance in the documents wasn't the focus. They said

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Speaker 1: there was unverified hearsay about many people, including Trump. I

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Speaker 1: wonder what the unverified heresay is. Often that's true. Hearsay

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Speaker 1: is always a dodge. This is not a court of law.

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Speaker 1: You can't use hearsay at a court of law. And

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Speaker 1: that they said the Justice Department didn't plan to release

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Speaker 1: any more documents because the material contained child pornography and

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Speaker 1: victims personal information. Well, which one of the people in

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Speaker 1: the report was looking at. The child pornography was that

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Speaker 1: Epstein's private collection or was this the stuff that he

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Speaker 1: took photos and videos of, so he'd have compromising material.

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Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we're going to hear from his former girlfriend

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Speaker 2: Glaine Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, she's supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been subpoenat.

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Speaker 1: That can be a public hearing. I hope, oh, I hope.

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Speaker 1: I was waiting for her to crack. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess while Epstein was alive, she didn't want to betray him.

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Speaker 1: That's another one, right, Okay, like the girls going after

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Speaker 1: Luigi and the menandas brothers. Now here's a middle aged

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Speaker 1: woman and she's loyal to Jeffrey Epstein when she helped him,

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Speaker 1: you know, buy all these fourteen year olds and fly

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Speaker 1: them away into sex slavery.

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Speaker 2: She's still alive.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how long well she's been safe in prison.

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Speaker 1: But she wants to get out. She wants to cut

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Speaker 1: a deal. Finally, she never cut a deal. They would

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Speaker 1: have given it to her. If she would lay out

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Speaker 1: bigger fish to go get or testify against Epstein, then

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Speaker 1: they would they would have given it. Because right now

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Speaker 1: she's got a sentence. I don't think she gets out

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Speaker 1: until she's in her eighties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So but all you know what, all the Epstein headlines,

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Speaker 1: it's like every sex scandal where there's a black book,

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Speaker 1: there's some madam, there's some Brady. That's right. They never

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Speaker 1: released the black books. They never release the customers. That

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Speaker 1: always ends up being a lot of hyphen and then

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Speaker 1: a big disappointment.

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Speaker 3: Didn't we hear from didn't we find out names from

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Speaker 3: Heidi Fly's as black Book or No?

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Speaker 2: I can't remember. That was so long ago.

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Speaker 1: We had Heidie Flices on the show a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought we got some names. I thought there

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Speaker 3: was some names released, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. They're all dead now anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't I don't remember.

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Speaker 3: See, all you horny guys have to go after underage girls, Well,

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Speaker 3: could we not do.

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Speaker 1: The all you many? All you going after underage don't.

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Speaker 2: You say sometimes say you women?

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Speaker 1: I'm right about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm right about that.

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Speaker 1: You know I uh, I can't tell that story. Please.

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Speaker 3: We almost got you at a confessional mode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll tell you that off the air.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to run in there.

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Speaker 1: About a friend of mine. I am no wrongdoing on

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Speaker 1: my part, but I was near.

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Speaker 2: I'll be the judge of that.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I left. I left the wrongdoing room before

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Speaker 1: I witnessed anyone.

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Speaker 2: Do you report it?

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Speaker 1: Well? I never I never saw that. You knew after

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Speaker 1: the fact I heard about something. Uh, Debra Mark, you're

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Speaker 1: at a line, you're out a line.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI AM sixty.

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Speaker 1: bad places. At John Cobelt Radio. We're listing one hundred

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Speaker 1: followers away from thirty thousand. So be the thirty thousandth

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Speaker 1: for that gives us a big round number. Well, as

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Speaker 1: long as we're in the store here, might as well

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Speaker 1: segue into this story because there's really no other place

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Speaker 1: to put this, the David Geffen story. Did you see this?

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 1: David Geffen is the famous media mogul record company executive.

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Speaker 1: He was involved with a lot of the most famous

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Speaker 1: bands and singers, especially in a back in the seventies,

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Speaker 1: and he also produced films. He's eighty two years old now.

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Speaker 1: He has been sued by not making any of this up.

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Speaker 1: His estranged husband, a young gay black man named Donovan Michaels,

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Speaker 1: who he retrieved out of the foster system back in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Donovan Michaels is now thirty two. They met

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Speaker 1: on Seeking Arrangements dot com.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of that.

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Speaker 1: You know what that's about.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can imagine John.

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Speaker 1: If you're a rich guy and you're looking for a

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Speaker 1: I think they call it armcandy. You'll provide whatever money

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Speaker 1: they need, clothing, shoes, handbags, handbags. It's called Seeking Arrangements

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Speaker 1: dot Com. And you know they're looking for something in return.

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Speaker 1: It's old rich guys looking for relations it says here

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Speaker 1: with younger singles. They want some kind of and the

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Speaker 1: girls watch some kind of compensation. On the night they met,

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Speaker 1: David Geffen allegedly paid Donovan Michael's ten thousand dollars to

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Speaker 1: have sex with him. They continue the relationship eventually got married. However,

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Speaker 1: David Geffen, who's worth billions, never set up a prenup. Boy,

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Speaker 1: that's really stupid.

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Speaker 2: That's really done.

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Speaker 1: You're marrying. You're marrying a guy that you met on

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Speaker 1: Seeking Arrangements dot Com. You're eighty two.

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Speaker 2: He must have been Wow, he must have been really

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Speaker 2: good in bed.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Now I got to think about what that might entail.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, how badly, why would why would you

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Speaker 1: go to Seeking Arrangements dot Com marry the guy then

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Speaker 1: get divorced, not have a prenup? He must have it.

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Speaker 1: He must have dementia. Michaels, it's not even his real name.

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Speaker 1: His real name is David Armstrong and uh he's suing

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Speaker 1: Geffen for breach of contract, saying the billionaire promised to

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Speaker 1: take care of him financially but left him broken, homeless.

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Speaker 1: He said it was like the movie Trading Places. Michaels

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Speaker 1: was used as a trophy to show off to his

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Speaker 1: rich and famous friends. Uh he's not bad looking, he's tall, thin.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't go pay for him. But it

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Speaker 1: was a sick game, he wrote in the complaint, Michaels

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Speaker 1: became a prop in Geffen's theater of virtue, created around

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Speaker 1: his evidence of Geffen's supposed altruism. You mean out, but

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Speaker 1: he was helping out a poor black kid, and Geffen

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Speaker 1: was showing off about how wonderful he was while privately

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Speaker 1: using him as a sexual commodity. What's wrong with people?

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Speaker 1: The attorney for Geffen, Patty Glazer, said there was no

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Speaker 1: contract expressed, written, oral, or implied that has ever existed.

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Speaker 1: We will vigorously and righteously defend against the false, pathetic lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: The complaint says that Geffen enjoyed physically dominating his sexual

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Speaker 1: partners and causing them pain.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this type.

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Speaker 1: Of sexual behavior triggered childhood trauma and caused him digestive issues.

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Speaker 1: It stinks. I don't have to know what kind of

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Speaker 1: what kind of sexual behavior causes digestifies?

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Speaker 2: Oh, what do you think headaches?

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Speaker 1: He forced drugs. He forced him to use drugs such

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Speaker 1: as cocaine and molly. They would do it on a

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Speaker 1: the Billionaire is super yacht in front of his friends.

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Speaker 1: Would critique every aspect of Michael's appearance, and the mere

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Speaker 1: existence of an ingrown hair would raise Geffen's ire And.

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Speaker 2: Why did you stay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is after after nine years an ingrown hair?

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Speaker 2: Well that's not that sexy.

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Speaker 1: This is not where I thought the show was going today.

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Speaker 1: That's why you got to tune in every day. We're

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Speaker 1: getting these moods and yeah, there's stop. Yeah, Michael said,

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Speaker 1: he began re evaluating his life and relationship.

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Speaker 2: That's probably a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say, you got some crazy guy forcing you

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Speaker 1: into violent sex and screaming at you over an ingrown hair.

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Speaker 2: Our lives are so boring, John.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I feel so sleepy and dull.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I'm having digestive issues now thinking about all this, just.

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Speaker 1: Listening to that, all right? When we come back, Katie

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Speaker 1: Grimes is coming on. Jennifer Newsom. She's one and a

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Speaker 1: half half of this this grifter team. Gavin's wife whose

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Speaker 1: credibility is so low she could not even convince a

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Speaker 1: jury that Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted her. That's how hard

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Speaker 1: is it to convince a jury that Harvey Weinstein did

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Speaker 1: something bad to you? Well, she couldn't do it, if

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Speaker 1: you remember that case. She makes gender justice movies. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this from time to time. But what's worse

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Speaker 1: is she sells them to the state public education system.

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Speaker 1: Children are forced to watch these gender justice movies. In return,

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Speaker 1: she charged the taxpayers one and a half million dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's right, we paid Jennifer Newsom a million and a

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Speaker 1: half dollars so that children would be forced to watch

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Speaker 1: gender justice movies. That's next, Katie Grimes, Californiaglobe dot com,

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