WEBVTT - Collapse of the Iron Wall

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<v Speaker 1>All Zone media. Hello everybody, and welcome to it could

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<v Speaker 1>happen here. My name is Sharene, and a lot has

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<v Speaker 1>happened recently and we definitely need to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to cover and things are changing every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't possibly talk about everything in a thirty minute

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<v Speaker 1>podcast episode, but just for context, I'm recording the bulk

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<v Speaker 1>of this on Wednesday, October eleventh. There are many different

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<v Speaker 1>things that we should get into, and we'll probably get

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<v Speaker 1>into them in other episodes, so look forward to those.

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<v Speaker 1>But today I want to talk about why exactly this

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<v Speaker 1>attack from Hamas is so different and so unprecedented for

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<v Speaker 1>many reasons, and why the response by Israel is also

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<v Speaker 1>extremely unprecedented. There has been a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of death, and I thought a better way to start

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<v Speaker 1>to learn about this might be with something really specific,

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<v Speaker 1>like learning about the border fence that has been cajing

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<v Speaker 1>in Gaza for years, why Israel thought it was so impermeable,

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<v Speaker 1>and how they were wrong. So let's begin the video

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<v Speaker 1>and images going around on social media of a bulldozer

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<v Speaker 1>breaking through a portion of the fence that has long

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<v Speaker 1>enclosed the Gaza stript for years. This cage that surrounds

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<v Speaker 1>that territory, the image of a bulldozer there's running straight

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<v Speaker 1>through it and Palestinians running to the other side. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you can find anything better to represent the

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<v Speaker 1>long history of Israeli Palestinian tensions, the decades of brutal

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli occupation, the recurrent Hamas bombings and rocket strikes, and

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<v Speaker 1>the political deterioration on both sides than this image. No

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<v Speaker 1>one thought this was going to happen. Professor Clive Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>director of Institute for Middle Eastern and Islamic Studies at

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<v Speaker 1>Durham University, said, this is the first time since nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight that any Palestinian militant movement has taken territory

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel proper. That symbolic victory and defeat for Israel

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<v Speaker 1>will resonate across the region. So on the morning of

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<v Speaker 1>October seventh, there was a surprise attack from Hamas against Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened was a colossal failure of Israeli intelligence as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the Israeli government. I'll go into this in

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<v Speaker 1>more detail in a bit, but in this surprise attack,

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<v Speaker 1>resistance fighters were entering in up to twenty nine different

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<v Speaker 1>locations outside the Gaza Strip. Most significantly, fighters tore through

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<v Speaker 1>the border fence, which has also been called the Iron Wall.

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<v Speaker 1>They knocked it aside with bulldozers, drove right through it

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<v Speaker 1>with jeeps and motorcycles, other hamas fighters sailed right over

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<v Speaker 1>it with fan powered gliders, and others hopped on boats

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<v Speaker 1>to try to reach the other side by sea. A

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<v Speaker 1>crucial component of Israel's defense from an attack like this,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least it was supposed to be, was this

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<v Speaker 1>sophisticated border fence. I want to talk about how exactly

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<v Speaker 1>Israel came to build this fence, because throughout most of

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<v Speaker 1>its history, the IDF did not want much to do

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<v Speaker 1>with defensive measures. Its traditional security concept rested on three

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<v Speaker 1>complimentary pillars, deterrents, early warning, and decisive battlefield victory. Guided

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<v Speaker 1>by this concept, the IDF built offensive power designed to

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<v Speaker 1>deter its enemies from attacking, and intelligence raised in order

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<v Speaker 1>to detect when that deterns had eroded. If it was

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<v Speaker 1>unable to convince the other side that it was better

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<v Speaker 1>off avoiding conflict, the IDF would bring the full might

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<v Speaker 1>of its offensive capabilities in search of a rapid and

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<v Speaker 1>decisive quote unquote victory, which just means they would end

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<v Speaker 1>up killing a lot of people. They would fly in

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<v Speaker 1>cities and masker hundreds of people in order to essentially

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<v Speaker 1>make the other side lose all hope and not fight back,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they did, to tell them never to fight

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<v Speaker 1>back again. This would, according to this concept, initially strengthen

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<v Speaker 1>the terrens. The idea of defense for Israel began sneaking

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<v Speaker 1>into the conversation in the nineteen sixties, as Israel considered

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing the Hawk surface to air missile system from the US.

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<v Speaker 1>This idea had some opposition at the highest level of

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<v Speaker 1>the IDF Air Force. Commander Ezer Wiseman opposed the idea

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<v Speaker 1>on the grounds that it would give Israel's political chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse to avoid the bold offensive operations, in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>surprise air strikes that would take out entire buildings, which

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<v Speaker 1>he viewed as necessary to win a war. In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>though five Hawk missile batteries were purchased just before the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven Six Day War for thirty million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>the first makings of the present day security fence began

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety four after the signing of the Interim

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<v Speaker 1>agreement on the West Bank and the Gaza Strip when

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<v Speaker 1>Israel constructed a forty mile fence along its boundary with

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Palestine. The construction was completed in nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>though it didn't necessarily represent a hard border. In two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and five, under former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Israel

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<v Speaker 1>carried out a disengagement from Gaza, which included, among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>pulling out its troops. This meant that the one kilometer

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<v Speaker 1>buffer zone that the Israeli Defence Forces maintained after the

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<v Speaker 1>first fence was torn down by Gazans in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>was no longer a possibility. A plan for an alternate

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<v Speaker 1>forty five fence a few dozen meters east of the

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<v Speaker 1>original fence, entirely on Israeli land, was then developed. The

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<v Speaker 1>present day forty mile long barricade has several sections, a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty foot high smart fence, which is the over the

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<v Speaker 1>ground fence with a maritime section by sensors to detect

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<v Speaker 1>encourageents from the water, and an underground wall of classified

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<v Speaker 1>depth and thickness with sensors to detect any digging. The

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<v Speaker 1>overground barrier, which makes up eighty one percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>fence is supported by a complex network of cameras, radar systems,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as command and control rooms. One hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand tons of iron and steel were used in

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<v Speaker 1>the construction of the underground wall, which took three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years to complete. The total cost of the

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<v Speaker 1>project is estimated at one point eleven billion dollars. The

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<v Speaker 1>project of the quote unquote smart fence was publicly announced

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, and in twenty twenty one, Israel announced

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<v Speaker 1>the completion of the smart fence, which included an underground

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<v Speaker 1>concrete barrier. This addition, which I feel like is important

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<v Speaker 1>to mention, was because Hamas used underground tunnels to blind

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<v Speaker 1>side Israeli forces in twenty fourteen, Access near the fence

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<v Speaker 1>on the Gaza side was limited to farmers who were

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<v Speaker 1>on foot. On the Israeli side, observation towers and sand

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<v Speaker 1>dunes were put in place to monitor threats and slow intruders.

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<v Speaker 1>With the announcement of its completion in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>the then Defence Minister Benny Gantz said the barrier placed

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<v Speaker 1>a quote iron wall between Hamas and Southern Israel. But

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<v Speaker 1>on October seventh, as we saw the wall failed massively,

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<v Speaker 1>and a surprise series of coordinated efforts enabled Tamas to

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<v Speaker 1>get past the wall. The fence was breached at twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine points, according to the IDF. There were also Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>guard towers positioned at every five hundred feet along the

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter of the wall at some certain points, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas fighters there appeared to encounter very little resistance. It

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<v Speaker 1>soon became apparent that the border was minimally staffed, with

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<v Speaker 1>much of Israel's military diverted to focus on the unrest

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<v Speaker 1>in the West Bank. Matthew Levitt is the director of

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<v Speaker 1>the counter Terrorism Program at the Washington Institute for Near

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<v Speaker 1>East Policy. He said the most compelling parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>system were the ones that provided indicators and warnings. But

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see in advance that someone is masked at

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<v Speaker 1>the fence. It's still just a fence, a big fence,

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<v Speaker 1>but just a fence still, he says. The idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a bulldozer getting that close to the fence at all

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<v Speaker 1>just boggles the mind. The attack has been documented as

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<v Speaker 1>the following. To put it very simply, using commercial drones,

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas bombed Israeli observation towers, communications infrastructure, and weapons systems

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<v Speaker 1>along the border. Israel said Hamas fired more than three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand rockets into its territory, with some reaching as far

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<v Speaker 1>as Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Militants also use explosives to

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<v Speaker 1>blow up sections of the barrier, and men and motorbikes

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<v Speaker 1>drove through the gaps and then the bulldozers did the

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<v Speaker 1>rest and this allowed for enough space for their larger

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<v Speaker 1>view to drive through. Experts said an attack of this

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<v Speaker 1>magnitude with all of these elements would have required weeks

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<v Speaker 1>at least of preparation and subterfuge. But maybe you're asking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why now, why did Hamas now decide to launch an

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<v Speaker 1>attack of this magnitude. There are some clues in the

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<v Speaker 1>name that Hamas gave the attack. They named it Operation

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<v Speaker 1>of Axa Flood. Just days before the attack, hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli settlers, with the protection of the Israeli forces, stormed

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<v Speaker 1>at Alexa Mosque and occupied East Jerusalem. I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before, but this compound is a very important and

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<v Speaker 1>contested religious site, and it's often very often a target

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<v Speaker 1>by Israeli settlers and the IDF, and Hamas said it

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<v Speaker 1>launched its attack in response to the desecration of Aluxa. Muhammad'ef,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rassam Brigade's commander, said, we have decided that the

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<v Speaker 1>time has come to draw the line for the the

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<v Speaker 1>enemy to understand their time is up and they can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep going without consequences. But again, experts said this plan

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<v Speaker 1>would have taken weeks to plan. I'm sure the attacks

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<v Speaker 1>on Aleximosque played a role in the attack, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably being worked on for quite some time before that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hamas also said the attack was a response to

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<v Speaker 1>decades of Israeli violence and occupation. The daily impact of

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<v Speaker 1>that occupation on the lives of Palestinians in Gaza and

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<v Speaker 1>other occupied territories like the West Bank is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>part of this story. Let's take our first break before

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<v Speaker 1>I forget no clever segue here, Just listen to these

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<v Speaker 1>ads and we're back. Analysts and experts have been warning

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<v Speaker 1>for months that the reality on the ground in Palestine

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel was leading up to this. Nor Udin, a

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<v Speaker 1>political analyst and former Palestinian Authority spokeswoman, said the record

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<v Speaker 1>number of Palestinians killed, dispossessed, injured and traumatized by Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>forces and settlers across the occupied West Bank, the continued

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<v Speaker 1>siege on Gaza, the relentless attacks on El Samosque, they

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<v Speaker 1>were all pushing the situation towards this moment. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody imagined the particulars of this moment, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody with a sense of what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>knew that this quote unquote calm was deceiving and that

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<v Speaker 1>something was going to happen, something big. And it did happen.

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<v Speaker 1>The wall came down. But for the two point three

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<v Speaker 1>million Palestinians who have been virtually trapped for fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the Palestinians on the West Bank, who

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<v Speaker 1>have been constantly surveilled, having their movement restricted, and have

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<v Speaker 1>experienced growing military violence, bulldozing through this fence means something else.

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<v Speaker 1>While the Israeli response was fed by the failure of

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<v Speaker 1>this system, making the future of all Palestinians even more precarious.

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<v Speaker 1>The impact of Saturday's attack for Palestinians is hugely significant

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<v Speaker 1>psychologically and symbolically. It shatters the idea of Israel's military superiority.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a physical symbol of breaking out of the open

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<v Speaker 1>air prison they've been held captive in letting them step

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<v Speaker 1>onto the land that they've been forced out of, some

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<v Speaker 1>of them for their entire lives. Most of the Palestinians

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<v Speaker 1>and Gaza are children, and they have only ever known

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<v Speaker 1>life within the confines of that fence. So bulldozing a

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<v Speaker 1>hole right through this fence to the other side will

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<v Speaker 1>obviously have ripples in more ways than one. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention something here that I've been thinking about is

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<v Speaker 1>that Gaza is often referred to as the world's biggest

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<v Speaker 1>open air prison, which is true, but I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and prison implies that they did a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not do a crime. The Palestinians are innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>They're stuck in a cage against their will, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have no way out. I think a better way to

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<v Speaker 1>describe Gaza might be an open air concentration camp, the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest open air concentration camp period. This is just something

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about because I feel like open air

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<v Speaker 1>prison implies they're all criminals and they're not, so just

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<v Speaker 1>something to think about when it comes to semantics and

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<v Speaker 1>the power of words, I suppose, even if it's subconscious.

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza has been under a land, sea and air blockade

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<v Speaker 1>since two thousand and seven. More than two point three

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<v Speaker 1>million Palestinians live there, all crammed in and they cannot

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<v Speaker 1>leave without Israeli permission, which very few people get. Hamas

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<v Speaker 1>is a political and armed group that took control of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, and there hasn't been an election since.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of a regional alliance which also includes Iran

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<v Speaker 1>and the armed group has Bela and Lebanon. Hamas has

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<v Speaker 1>been designated a terrorist organization by Israel, the US, and

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<v Speaker 1>the EU, among many others. We'll be doing a history

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<v Speaker 1>more in depth about Hamas soon, but it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>note that Israel basically helped create it. More details will

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<v Speaker 1>be in that episode, obviously, but just to summarize very briefly,

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<v Speaker 1>Israel bolstered Hamas's creation and funded its expansion because it

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to divide the Palestinians amongst themselves, and they viewed

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<v Speaker 1>the leftist PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>governing party at the time, as a threat, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they encouraged Hamas to flourish and thrive, which leads us

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<v Speaker 1>to now again, that'll be a separate episode. There is

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<v Speaker 1>so much to cover, and I can do it all today.

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<v Speaker 1>Although the PLO used to be the dominant party decades ago,

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years, the PLO and the secular FATA party

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<v Speaker 1>which the PLO is centered around, is often criticized for

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<v Speaker 1>being ineffective, and so many Palestinians see Hamas as the

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<v Speaker 1>most active group when it comes to resistance against the

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<v Speaker 1>violent Israeli occupation. Palestinians have lived in violent occupation for

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six years and the world has largely done nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinians have no outside support whatsoever, and no one is

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<v Speaker 1>coming to their aid or rescue. They unfortunately only have

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<v Speaker 1>this militant group because of this, and also just a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder that Palestine has actually tried everything and that violence

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<v Speaker 1>is not their first resort. Many Palestinians don't even support Hamas.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not forget about BDS, which is a Palestinian nonviolent

0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:50.160
<v Speaker 1>movement which calls for boycott, divestment and sanctions for Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>BDS is now deemed illegal. In twenty twenty one, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five states passed anti BDS laws, so even boycott Israeli

0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:05.680
<v Speaker 1>products is suddenly illegal. So that was BDS. People are

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<v Speaker 1>obviously still engaged in BDS and I encourage everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>read more about it, because divestment and sanctions work. It

0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:16.320
<v Speaker 1>worked in South Africa, but here we are. And then

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen, Palestinians in Gaza mounted the Great March

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<v Speaker 1>of Return to show the world their plight. Day after

0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:29.920
<v Speaker 1>day they walked unarmed to Israeli's military fences around Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>How did Israel respond to this non violent protest. They

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<v Speaker 1>shot eight thousand Palestinians with live ammunition, killed two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty people and wounded thirty six thousand, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty three. Palestinians are getting killed regardless of the

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<v Speaker 1>existence of Hamas, because Israel bombing Gaza isn't actually about

0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Hamas but occupation and ethnic cleansing. Israel and Hamas have

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<v Speaker 1>fought many on and off quote unquote wars. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote because it's not a war if only one

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<v Speaker 1>side has an army, and I personally really hate when

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<v Speaker 1>it's referred to as a war because it's falsely portraying

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<v Speaker 1>an occupation as an equal fight when there's actually an

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<v Speaker 1>oppressor and an oppressed. But regardless, the last big war

0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Israel had had with Hamas was in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>In the past, it's usually been an exchange of fire

0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.840
<v Speaker 1>across the Gaza border. Hamas launches rockets into Israel, Israel

0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.479
<v Speaker 1>drops more bombs on Gaza. Hamas launches rockets into Israel,

0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Israel drops more bombs on Gaza, and so on. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>this results in a huge civilian death toll in Gaza,

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<v Speaker 1>with Israel bombing entire residential buildings and killing entire families

0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.879
<v Speaker 1>and hundreds of children. And just a reminder here that

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza does not have an iron dome to defend itself.

0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.359
<v Speaker 1>When Israel bombs Gaza, it does so knowing it is

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<v Speaker 1>very densely populated and filled with hundreds of innocent people

0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.639
<v Speaker 1>that have nothing to do with Hamas. They drop bombs

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<v Speaker 1>on buildings, hospitals, schools, nothing is off limits. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to remind you, or maybe I do that They've

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<v Speaker 1>also killed members of the press, clearly wearing press vests,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess that's another topic for another day. What

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<v Speaker 1>happened this time around with the attack that Hamas launched

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<v Speaker 1>on October seventh, was very different, though it's repeatedly been

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<v Speaker 1>called unprecedented, and this is true for a few reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>One because of the scale of the attack that Hamas launched,

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<v Speaker 1>and two because nobody really saw it coming. As of

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<v Speaker 1>this recording, more than one thousand and two hundred Israelis

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<v Speaker 1>and foreign nationals, the majority of whom were civilians, were

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<v Speaker 1>killed and more than three thousand were wounded. Hamas also

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<v Speaker 1>said that it captured more than one hundred Israelis, including

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<v Speaker 1>some senior military officers. Nothing like this, especially at this magnitude,

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<v Speaker 1>has happened since two thousand and six, when Hamas captured

0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:09.040
<v Speaker 1>one Israeli soldier, Galatchilit and held him in Gaza for

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<v Speaker 1>five years. And three days after Hamas launched this attack

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<v Speaker 1>on October seventh, there were still gun battles going on

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<v Speaker 1>between Hamas fighters and Israeli forces in the three main

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:24.960
<v Speaker 1>areas in southern Israel. And despite verified footage and reporting

0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:29.399
<v Speaker 1>from Gaza that indisputably shows countless Palestinian children who Israel

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>has killed so far, Israel's murder of Palestinian children is

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<v Speaker 1>receiving little to no media attention in the US or globally.

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<v Speaker 1>But they create the worst possible enemy, so the world

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<v Speaker 1>supports the destruction of an entire people, and as an Arab,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to mention that it's really hard to see

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<v Speaker 1>all of this play out, and if you have any

0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Arab friends, I'm sure they're going through it too, especially

0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:01.240
<v Speaker 1>if they're Palestinian, because it's almost like dejah of what

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.280
<v Speaker 1>happened after nine to eleven, and what happened after nine

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.720
<v Speaker 1>to eleven didn't really stop. To be honest, it's not

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.720
<v Speaker 1>like a somophobia took a break and then came back.

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 1>It's always been there, but now it's very shameless and disgusting,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes no attempt to cover itself because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not only ignored, but encouraged in order to validate the

0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:25.479
<v Speaker 1>actions of the US military in the Israeli military. Another

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 1>reason for this all being so unprecedented is Israel's failure

0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to stop it from happening. The Israeli Army is one

0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.359
<v Speaker 1>of the world's most sophisticated military and intelligence organizations, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as one of the most powerful armies in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the United States support and billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in funding, any kind of communication going in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of Gaza, at least in theory, would be listened to

0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>by Israel's intelligence units. And again, the offense is heavily militarized,

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:57.199
<v Speaker 1>but still it collapsed. I think another significant result of this,

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<v Speaker 1>which I kind of touched on earlier, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>success full attack from Hamas completely undermines the never endingly

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<v Speaker 1>talked about power of Israel and the power of their

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<v Speaker 1>army and military, especially their capability in the region. It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of disrupts their entire image in a way. I

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<v Speaker 1>also want to quickly mention that the claim that Hamas's

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<v Speaker 1>attack was unprovoked is ignoring the years of brutal occupation

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<v Speaker 1>and exactly why they attacked in the first place. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a surprise, yes, but I would never say it

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<v Speaker 1>was unprovoked, because you can't keep someone in captivity their

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<v Speaker 1>entire lifetime and expect them to hug it out. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe what I'm saying sounds radical to you, especially by

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<v Speaker 1>the standards of American media. But here is this award

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<v Speaker 1>winning Israeli journalist and writer Gideon Levy. He wrote an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible piece about what's happening right now. He writes opinion

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:07.639
<v Speaker 1>pieces in a weekly column for Herots, and he focuses

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 1>particularly on the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>won awards for his articles on human rights. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly moving, powerful piece called Israel can't imprison two

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 1>million Gozzens without paying a cruel price. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>read excerpts from this because he is speaking as inn Israeli,

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's extremely important to hear what he

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<v Speaker 1>has to say. Behind all this lies Israeli arrogance, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that we can do whatever we like that will

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<v Speaker 1>never pay the price and never be punished for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Will carry on undisturbed. We'll arrest, kill, harass, dispossess, and

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 1>protect the settlers busy with their programs, will fire at

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:58.360
<v Speaker 1>innocent people, take out people's eyes and smash their faces, expel, confiscate,

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 1>rob grab people from their beds heads, carry out ethnic cleansing,

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and of course continue with the unbelievable siege of the

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Gaza Strip, and everything will be all right. We'll build

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.400
<v Speaker 1>a terrifying obstacle around Gaza and will be safe. Will

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<v Speaker 1>rely on the geniuses of the Army's eighty two hundred

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>cyber intelligence unit and on the Shinbet Security Service agents

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>who know everything. They'll warn us in time. It turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that even the world's most sophisticated and expensive obstacle

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:30.439
<v Speaker 1>can be breached with a smoky old bulldozer. When the

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<v Speaker 1>motivation is great, This arrogant barrier can be crossed by

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<v Speaker 1>bicycle and moped, despite the billions poured into it and

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>all the famous experts and fat cat contractors. We thought

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>we'd continue to go down to Gaza, scatter a few

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>crumbs in the form of tens of thousands of Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>work permits, always contingent on good behavior, and still keep

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<v Speaker 1>them in prison. We'll make peace with Saudi Arabia and

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<v Speaker 1>the United Emirates, and the Palestinians will be forgotten until

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 1>they're erased. Quite a few Israelis would like we'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>holding thousands of Palestinian prisoners, some without trial, most of

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 1>them political prisoners, and we won't agree to discuss their release,

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>even after they've been in prison for decades. We'll tell

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>them that only by force will their prisoners see freedom.

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>We thought we would arrogantly keep rejecting any attempt at

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a diplomatic solution, only because we don't want to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with all that, and everything will continue that way forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, it was proved that this isn't how it

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<v Speaker 1>is a few hundred armed Palestinians breached the barrier and

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:40.199
<v Speaker 1>invaded Israel in a way no Israeli imagine possible. A

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 1>few hundred people proved that it's impossible to imprison two

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>million people forever without paying a cruel price. Just as

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<v Speaker 1>the smoky old Palestinian bulldozer tore through the world's smartest barrier,

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>it tore away at Israel's arrogance and complacency. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>also how it tore away at the idea that it's

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<v Speaker 1>enough to occasionally attack Gaza with suicide drones and sell

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>them to half the world to maintain security. On Saturday,

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Israel saw pictures it has never seen before, Palestinian vehicles

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 1>patrolling gets cities, bike riders entering through the Gaza gates.

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>These pictures tear away at that arrogance the Gaza Palestinians

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 1>have decided they're willing to pay any price for a

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 1>moment of freedom. Is there any hope in that? No?

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Will Israel learn its lesson? No. On Saturday, they were

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<v Speaker 1>already talking about wiping out entire neighborhoods in Gaza, about

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>occupying the strip and punishing Gaza quote as it has

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>never been punished before. But Israel hasn't stopped punishing Gaza

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 1>since nineteen forty eight, not for a moment. After seventy

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>five years of abuse, the worst possible scenario awaits it

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>once again. The threats of flattening Gaza prove only one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't learned a thing. The arrogance is here to stay,

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<v Speaker 1>even though Israel is paying a high price once again.

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister Benjamin Nyaho bears a very great responsibility for

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>what happened, and he must pay that price. But it

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't start with him, and it won't end after he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>We now have to cry bitterly for the Israeli victims,

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<v Speaker 1>but we should also cry for Gaza. Gaza, most of

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>whose residents are refugees created by Israel, Gaza, which has

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<v Speaker 1>never known a single day of freedom. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that piece is very powerful, and I know I read

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<v Speaker 1>a good chunk of it, but I think it's important

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to hear, especially from an Israeli. As he mentioned, Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>because of this has responded to the attack with extreme force.

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister a little Bitchna NYAHUO said the enemy will

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 1>pay an unprecedented price. Israel has bombed Gaza for days,

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>hitting Gaza with air strikes, targeting hospitals, mosques, entire residential buildings,

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>and calling Palestinians animals to the media, Israeli Defense Minister

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Joav Galant said, we are fighting animals and acting accordingly.

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Israel also said that it wants to wipe out hamasa's

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>military capability and end its control of Gaza, which doesn't

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:23.919
<v Speaker 1>really make sense because they're kind of targeting anything and

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>now anything they can hit, including civilians, and at the

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>end they want control themselves. So I think a lot

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>of right wing Israeli politicians, which was most of them

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>these days, say empty, stupid shit. And it also looks

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>like amidst all this that a ground invasion is likely

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>going to happen because the IDF has been readying tanks

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and military jeeps. It sucks that I have to say

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this out loud, but peace should not come at the

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>expense and the brutal oppression of others. There was no

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>peace before this attack. The violence of the Israeli occupation

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>has been there since the state was established in nineteen

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>forty eight. Hamas is a direct result of that violence.

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>There has never been peace in Israel because it was

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>created in violence, and this clearly does not justify Hamas

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>killing innocent people. That is never okay, But Israel also

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>can justify killing thousands of people because of that. Abby Martin,

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 1>who is the creator and host of The Empire Files.

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>She also made the film Gaza Fights for Freedom, which

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend. She posted this exchange on her Twitter

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>between her and one of their field producers in Gaza,

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and he says, I'm scared, Abby, I feel I could

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>die any second. Most of the people here lost power

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and internet connections, so we don't know where they hit.

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Entire neighborhoods are being erased. They killed twelve hundred of

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>us so far and destroyed massively, and yet they say

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>they have not started yet. We know massacres are coming,

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and we're sure they got the green light from the

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>US to kill us all. So that is a perspective

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of someone standing in Gaza living in fear, which isn't

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>entirely new as far as living in fear goes, because

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that's been the reality for Gazans for decades. But this

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>time it's different because it's very clear that Israel's committing

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>a purposeful genocide. But they're in the dark with no

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>one to help them, and I can only imagine how

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>helpless and hopeless it feels. It breaks my heart. I

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>just want to give a update, an unfortunate update, because

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<v Speaker 1>things are just fucked and people keep dying. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>recording this update on the afternoon of October twelfth, like

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<v Speaker 1>a day after I record the original stuff, and Israel

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<v Speaker 1>has killed five hundred Palestinians and the Gaza strip since

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, five hundred in the last six hours twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza's health ministry said that one thousand, five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven Palestinians, including five hundred children and two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy six women, have been killed and there are

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<v Speaker 1>almost seven thousand others wounded because of these Israeli airstrikes.

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<v Speaker 1>Loss of this magnitude is unsettling and overwhelming. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also want to mention this something I just learned. Israel

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<v Speaker 1>has bombed the international airports of Aleppo and Damascus in Syria,

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<v Speaker 1>and this has forced them out of service. So not

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<v Speaker 1>only are they massacring the entire families in Gaza, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're also dropping bombs on civilian airports in Syria. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Western media still wants you to think that Israel

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<v Speaker 1>is the victim. It bears repeating that Gaza is very

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<v Speaker 1>densely populated, with two point three million people trapped in

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<v Speaker 1>a very small space, unable to leave, with nowhere to

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<v Speaker 1>escape to. An example of this empty, stupid rhetoric that

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli politicians are saying is when Natanyahu said that civilians

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<v Speaker 1>should leave and evacuate Gaza. He said that, knowing full

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<v Speaker 1>well that that is impossible because his government forbids it.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that to the media so the world can

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<v Speaker 1>see that he is just and not trying to attack

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<v Speaker 1>any civilians. It's all a fucking show, like I guess

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<v Speaker 1>all politics are, but it's still really infuriating and I

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<v Speaker 1>hate it so much. And in Gaza, before all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>before the thousands that have already died, there was already

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<v Speaker 1>a blockade. They were trapped for fifteen years. And now

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to this blockade, Israel has imposed a total

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<v Speaker 1>siege on Gaza, inflicting collective punishment, which is illegal under

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<v Speaker 1>international law. But Israel routinely commits war crimes and goes

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<v Speaker 1>about its business unchecked. Why would it be any different

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Remember that half of Gaza's population are under

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds of children have been murdered, and horrific videos

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<v Speaker 1>have been circulating of the destruction of Gaza, of bodies

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<v Speaker 1>and babies and innocent people being pulled out of the rubble.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a break down last night because I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a video of a Palestinian father holding his dead child's

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<v Speaker 1>corpse and hugging it for the very last time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very privileged to be sitting here recording this, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I have difficulty processing it, I cannot imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinians are going through. Israel controls everything in Gaza. If

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<v Speaker 1>cut off electricity, food, water, and gas for an entire population,

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<v Speaker 1>Israel is massacring Palestinians in a blackout on purpose, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're unable to connect with anyone from the outside. No

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<v Speaker 1>electricity also means that hospitals have no way of the

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<v Speaker 1>already limited machines they have available to them so they

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<v Speaker 1>can save lives. Before this, the water in Gaza was

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<v Speaker 1>already ninety seven percent undrinkable, and now it's completely gone.

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<v Speaker 1>This will lead to dehydration deaths, among many many other deaths.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel is starving an entire population live on your television,

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<v Speaker 1>openly committing genocide as the world watches on as it

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