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Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL podcast has less turnovers than

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Speaker 1: Patrick Momes. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. Dan Hanson herey come to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: Let's take it easy on the Patrick Mahomes slander because

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Speaker 1: he took care of business time. Sometimes the money drop

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Speaker 1: is like perfectly timed for the night dropping it when

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Speaker 1: you just put a forty burger on the line, doesn't

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Speaker 1: It's like our producer watched like the first like minutes

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Speaker 1: of the late game on Sunday and said, oh, that

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Speaker 1: will work the Steelers win. It's a conversation starter. And

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Speaker 1: when I'm going through all the lists of money drops

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Speaker 1: and how they're labeled, I'm like, Patrick Mahomes has a

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Speaker 1: couple of turnovers, but you guys have zero because you're

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Speaker 1: perfect all the time. Well we so we don't don't

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Speaker 1: clinically have the look at like this sort of hot

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Speaker 1: topic that was sent in around week eight. Let's use

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Speaker 1: that one. Let's go yeah. But also also this, I

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Speaker 1: thought you'd be like, Okay, hey, this is a perfect

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Speaker 1: way to start Patrick Mahomes. How many turnovers did he

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Speaker 1: have tonight? And it'd be like he didn't he had

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Speaker 1: a way better getting like you, you could have rolled

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Speaker 1: with it. So you wanted us to lead with one

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Speaker 1: of the more like least noteworthy games of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's a one off. Also, it's a compliment to you guys.

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Speaker 1: You guys don't have any turnovers. I feel, so we

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Speaker 1: should just start the show over. It almost feels like,

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Speaker 1: this hole. Speaking of turnovers, a Ricky turnover to start

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Speaker 1: the show. Um, Erica, thank you. I see. Don't stop

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Speaker 1: dreaming with your dreams because they're very they're important. This

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Speaker 1: dream is dead. This dream turned out to a nightmare

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the audience and us. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna push forward. Wild Card Weekend in the books. There's

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Speaker 1: of course, one more game to be played in this

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Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, Cardinals Rams on Monday night. But

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Speaker 1: all the weekend games are in the books, and we

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Speaker 1: will dig in on every one of them. Some really

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Um to get through here, not a week mark,

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Speaker 1: not a weekend of incredible upsets necessarily, but memorable moments

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Speaker 1: games were um, they were all watchable because it's the

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Speaker 1: Uh to the other two, I don't know, there's something

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Speaker 1: obviously be nostalgic we can get into about the Bengals

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Speaker 1: uh situation. And the Cowboys Niners game, to me was

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Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoyable and honestly aesthetically beautiful. Between the uniform matchup

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Speaker 1: perfect time of day to play that game. Although the

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Speaker 1: sun did obviously cause stands yeah blinded at the home

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Speaker 1: team's receiver on a crucial third down and the giant

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Speaker 1: it was, you know, it's like a a mediocre wild

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Speaker 1: card weekend. It happens. I think you had two good games,

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Speaker 1: one very interesting game forty Niners Cowboys, which I don't

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Speaker 1: my theory that some blowouts are entertaining, Like you will

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Speaker 1: that right that game like that, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. Until the Patriots were on the wrong

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Speaker 1: just adoring this experience that blowout. Sometimes where I love

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Speaker 1: about it, there's just utter dominance unfurled on. Someone stop

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Speaker 1: it with that sound. But and we and we just

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Speaker 1: the West of the slot first first Saturday. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Bengals game. Honestly, I was like I enjoyed it, but

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Speaker 1: since West passed, she's made note of butterflies around her.

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Speaker 1: Definitely is it etymology? Maybe I don't know, you should, um,

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Speaker 1: So why don't we start right here on Saturday with

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Speaker 1: Here come the Raiders. Let's dig in the play clock

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Speaker 1: inter Septs. Jermaine football now Sam bam bam, how about that?

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Speaker 1: love it, Dave Lap them doing that. Jermaine Pratt sealed

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Speaker 1: you know next week that the Bengals aren't kicking field

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Speaker 1: really know exactly what's gonna happen with those three guys too.

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Speaker 1: But I'll let you guys unfold the whole Whistlegate business.

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Speaker 1: the last one. This was the west of Us to

428
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: end all west of him. I mean, you could not

429
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: script a more fascinating ending unless it was that if

430
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: Vontes Perfect wasn't touched down and he really did just

431
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: run out the end zone and get penalized, that would

432
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: have been the best way to end it. But like

433
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: all the way to the locker room. But this was

434
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good ending, just the total and comprehensive meltdown

435
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: of discipline from two players who have been known to

436
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: have meltdowns of disciplines in the in the past, and

437
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: Vontes Perfect, who plays out of control frankly and I

438
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: think has been for a couple of years the dirtiest

439
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: player in the NFL. He left to kill Perfect, he did,

440
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: and he said it right the West said right there

441
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: in the west of us to end all west of usiness.

442
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 1: So maybe that was the final chapter there and it's

443
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: now turned into something else. We love you, Chris Westling.

444
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. We have more games to

445
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 1: get to, So coming up next, we're gonna move to

446
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: the Sunday slate and the game in Dallas who the

447
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: Shanahan's are flying. Two receivers go left and curtain Tony

448
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: politic to designed roun for Dak Prescott thirty five gets

449
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: it from behind by Ze south Shire. I gotta get

450
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: up and clock the ball five four three two Dach.

451
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: We'll go on to get it off in time. One

452
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: second to go to the spike cap all in time

453
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: he did out. The forty Niners have won the game.

454
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: What do you got, Alex Camp? Did he spike it

455
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: in time? Forty Niners are Jimmy Ward's got his helmet.

456
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: Offer to the celebrate, Alex Camp? Is the game over?

457
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: Let's end of the game. Hey, it was over. The

458
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: forty Nighters of one. They're on their way to Lambo.

459
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Greg Papa with a call, K and

460
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: b are with tim Ron in there. Yes, Dac on

461
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: a design running play, runs up the middle, slides down.

462
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: They spot the ball, but it was the Cowboys that

463
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: spotted the ball. Not a game official the game Pitsial

464
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: has to run up, he taps the ball. He's getting

465
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: in the way of everything, and by the time they

466
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: finally get the snap off, it was triple zeros and

467
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys at home once again come up short

468
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: and a huge spot. The forty Niners hold on for

469
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: win over America's team, who go yet another year without

470
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl appearance. I think it's up to seven now.

471
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: Greg This always profiled as a bad matchup for the

472
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys because the forty Niners, the way they played the game,

473
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: the victory they were coming off against the Rams. But

474
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: for the for the most of this game, I think

475
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: what really struck me was just how much better the

476
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: forty Niners looked than Dallas, which is kind of a

477
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: role reversal from what most of the season was. Right,

478
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: it was not two teams that looked evenly matched. You know,

479
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: for most of the game, you know, the forty Niners

480
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: average two more yards for play than the Cowboys. That

481
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: that changed a little bit towards the end, but it

482
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: almost further highlighted the game management fiasco at the end

483
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: because it was on both sides. I feel like that

484
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: that ending was kind of perfect for this game because

485
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: it was both teams struggling in terms of situational football.

486
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: For for the Cowboys, it was mostly penalties, I mean

487
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: just crazy penalties. The Randy Gregory penalty I know on

488
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Sky that kept the forty Niners on the field, all

489
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: the holding calls that took back big plays by the Cowboys.

490
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: But in that final situation, I do kind of want

491
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: to start there since that's where the play is. What

492
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: what is going on? Like it is it is sort

493
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: of like a cliche. I don't know if this is true,

494
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: but they always say this, players always say this. It's

495
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: like if it's under sick, if it's under sixteen seconds

496
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: or so, then you gotta get it out of it,

497
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: Like you don't end up running another play inbounds, Like

498
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: you don't feel comfortable that you're gonna have enough time

499
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: to get up spike it in all of that, and

500
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: for him to for Dack to do that on a

501
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: design run from the forty when they had fourteen seconds

502
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: left made no sense at all, because you could have

503
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: gone to hail Mary's there or whatever you wanna call

504
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: two throws into the end one so you get two

505
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: bites at the apple in that situation, or if you want,

506
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: you could try to move it forward two different times.

507
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: You could have gotten three plays in there by going

508
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: to the sidelines. And yet that like it was just

509
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: a totally illogical play. All right, Do you want to

510
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: hear from Mike McCarthy on this, because Zaddie Mac had

511
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: something to say about what they were thinking here. Let's

512
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: listen to Daddie Mac. It's like anything else you do.

513
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: You want to be running a hail Mary play from

514
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: the fifth year old lid or you want to be

515
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: running five verticals from the l So that's the decision.

516
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: It's the right decision. Um, you know, it's just like anything.

517
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: It's you know, the execution between us and the officiaty

518
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: spotting the ball obviously wasn't into it wasn't you know,

519
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have had any problem get the ball squatted there, Well,

520
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: just there you're looking for. So Mark McCarthy saying, there

521
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: we we knew what we were doing. This is McCarthy.

522
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: This is McCarthy. Always makes these little lines like when

523
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: people do that, like you weren't at the fifty years.

524
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: In fairness, I think he's saying, once you finish the

525
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: seventh step drop back or however far you have to

526
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: set up a hell Mary, you're throwing at fifty yard

527
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: air yards. But Mark at the same time, like he's

528
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: not giving any inch here, he's putting the game on

529
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: the officials entirely, entirely there. I don't think that was

530
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: the right play. I thought their response, UM, Dak Prescott's

531
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: postgame presser and and just most especially Mike McCarthy's. UM

532
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: told me so much about the Cowboys. I heard no accountability.

533
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: It's it's blame, it's looking elsewhere. Um, this was a

534
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: totally bizarre final play. Mike Silver said. It was called

535
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: by Kelln Moore. I mean, I think the thing is,

536
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: if you're Dak Prescott, if anything, you slide earlier, you

537
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: get the ball spotted, spiked, and bang you go from there.

538
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Greg, I just think you take

539
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: as many shots as you can at the end zone.

540
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: And it capped off a totally sloppy performance, where again

541
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: it raises questions for me about Mike McCarthy. You seemed

542
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: totally out of his element. I know he gets a

543
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: lot of you know, fire, but at this point, it's like,

544
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: what this This was the biggest moment. Jerry Jones called

545
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: it the worst, one of the worst losses he can

546
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: ever recall it. It's like, I know, he's all hyperbole,

547
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: but this was meant to be the team that was

548
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: never gonna do this, and then all from the first

549
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: minute on it felt like a total collapse job. It

550
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: wasn't this kind of predictable. I mean, you and I

551
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: pick the Niners for that reason, because it's not just well, yes,

552
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys as an entity or have been prone to

553
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: this for decades now, but even this team, the way

554
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: they played down the stretch, it always felt like this

555
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: was in them to come up small in a moment

556
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: like this, like they were a flat track bully. And

557
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: now here are the big bad San Francisco for the

558
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: Niners who go into the building with ninety thousand people

559
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: going nuts and say, we don't care, We're not afraid

560
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: of these guys, and they go right down the field, score,

561
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: go right down the field, score again. And to Dallas's credit,

562
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: they at least were able to stop the bleeding enough

563
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: to make it a game again. And Jimmy g played

564
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: a role in that. He played overall solid game, but

565
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: through another one of those Garoppolo picks that I think

566
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: is eventually gonna get him killed, one of the you know,

567
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: down the stretch in the playoffs this year, Garoppolo will

568
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: make a mistake that end San Francisco season, but not yet,

569
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys weren't able to come back and really

570
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: make the Niners pay. I think with Greg without without

571
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: stressing the Dallas side of things too much. I think

572
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: that's such a juicy storyline to take out of this game.

573
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: Just the utter flatness that they showed up for a

574
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: playoff game with all, after all the build up through

575
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: the season. It was just so on brand and so disappointing. Right, Well,

576
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: this was a forty Niners defense game to me, and

577
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and that is showing the Cowboys offense to be the

578
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: front runners that you're talking about. Like if the if

579
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: the match up here was Cowboys offense, you know needs

580
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: to carry the day. They were no match for most

581
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: of this game for San Francisco's defense, which locked lost

582
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa fairly early. He was having a good game

583
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: early leaves with a concussion, and the defensive line for

584
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: the forty Niners terrorized them. I mean they hit. I

585
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: mean this this felt like a playoff game. They were hitting.

586
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: The Cowboys defense I thought was pretty physical too. They

587
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: settled down once they got almost a little over aggressive,

588
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: and Shannah had had some great play calls and Jimmy

589
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: g and and some conservatism by Shanahan helped them stay

590
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: in it. But like they were hitting, and until the

591
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: very end of that game, the Cowboys offense never got going.

592
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this was supposed to be the strength of

593
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: their team, Dak Amari Ceedee Lamb going up against some

594
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: guys on the outside for San Francisco who should be attackable,

595
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: and yet Dak just didn't have the time. Dak wasn't

596
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: very accurate, like, wasn't making good decisions, didn't have time

597
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: back there, and they were just bum rushed. It wasn't

598
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like they were. They were too evenly

599
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: matched teams. You would not have thought that the Cowboys

600
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: were the favorites or in the home team. And I

601
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: think you got Deebo Samuel emerging again as the most

602
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: watchable player in the league. I mean, they just use

603
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: him in fascinating ways. He's so powerful and I know

604
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: that interception was such a on brand mistake by Jimmy

605
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: g but he early on, especially on third down like two,

606
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: Juan Jennings and others just made a couple of super

607
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: money throws and some great catches to Brandon Aiyuk. That

608
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: whole crew played at their best. Where someone who is

609
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: who you know? How do we explain how Ceedee Lamb

610
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: was essentially kidnapped before the game. The guy is a

611
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: no show in this performance, and all week long it's

612
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: talking about how the Cowboys wide receivers are going to

613
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: dominate San Francisco. It makes total sense and it doesn't

614
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: happen at all. It's like San Francisco is more than

615
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: some other parts on defense. But yeah, Deebo Samuel, it's

616
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: amazing sing It's hard to do this. He scores a

617
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: touchdown every week, whether it's as a receiver or as

618
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: a rusher, sometimes as a passer. He's a remarkable player.

619
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, you you miss most you miss

620
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa for most of this game. Uh, George Kittles

621
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: held to one catch, and yet you still dominate. So

622
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: you have to feel really good as a forty Niners

623
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: fan coming out of this game that you this could

624
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: be a potential uh deep run in the playoffs, because

625
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really imagine as we look ahead

626
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: at their schedule, they're heading to Green Bay, UH and

627
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: they'll be playing uh primetime on Fox on Saturday night.

628
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a team that goes into Green

629
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Bay and is intimidated. I think I think the only

630
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: thing that holds them back is is Garoppolo able to

631
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: keep up with Aaron Rodgers. He doesn't have to keep up,

632
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: but limit the mistakes because the rest of the team

633
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: is peaking at the right time. On offense and defense,

634
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: they're really dangerous right now. Right the the offense seems

635
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: to play good for about a half at a time. Yeah,

636
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: that's been for a month. Three the Tennessee game, the

637
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Houston game, the Rams game, this game, it's tough to

638
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: get four quarters out of this offense, especially with Jimmy

639
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: g He could have put the game away with that.

640
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: With overthrowing Ayuk who was wide open earlier in the

641
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: fourth quarter when they took the false start to give

642
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys the ball back like that was him being

643
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: a little to just jumpy and not letting his offensive

644
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: lineman get set before the snap, and they take a

645
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: penalty there. So their offense, to me, has great athletes

646
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: and they can put together a good half. But I

647
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: think what's making them special right now is their defense

648
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: and their coaching. Their defensive coaching specifically, like Damiko Ryan's

649
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: called the blitz at at the perfect time there at

650
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: the end of that game. But there's something about the

651
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: way that they coach guys up front really in the

652
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: front seven that year after year, it doesn't matter who

653
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: it is, like you bring in a guy like Abacom

654
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: ends up making a huge impact. They bringing oh Omena

655
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: who from Houston. Halfway through the season. He had an

656
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: awesome game. Armstead was awesome. Dre Greenlaw, who's been good

657
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: for them miss the entire season, came back two weeks ago.

658
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: Alsha here. Fred Warner like to me, that's kind of

659
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: where they won this game. They and that's where you could,

660
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, keep the Packers under wraps at least next week.

661
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: Two uh. Before we move on to telecast related notes.

662
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: One UH, CBS gets Jimmy Garoppolo immediately after the game

663
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: tra Tracy Wolfson does the interview and Jimmy G's and

664
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: full Patriot waye mode says nothing interesting, and then as

665
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: soon as the interview ends, they keep the camera on

666
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 1: him with the parabolic mics around and Garoppolo screaming into

667
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: the stands we own this place, this is our house.

668
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 1: I just love It's funny. You would say nothing into

669
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: the microphone, but when the cameras right on him fourteen

670
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: seconds later, he's screaming that the Niners now own Geral

671
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: World and my other telecast note is, uh, can we

672
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: get Jay Feely out of here? Can I just can

673
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: I play my favorite? My favorite? I'm sorry, Greg, I

674
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: don't want to step on the toes of anyone in

675
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: your industry, but can can we listen to Jay Pheeley's

676
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: analysis on field goals today? All right, Jay, he's already

677
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: made one from outside fifty This is fifty two this time.

678
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: Hopefully you didn't jenk some Jim talk, Jim talking about

679
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: how successful he's bad. There's a kid, and the gold

680
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: rush continues for San Francisco. Nance is waiting. He makes

681
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: a comment about jenx ing and then Nance leaves the

682
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: mic open. Jay say something, who are throwing it to

683
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: you for some type of information? Nothing? Nothing? Isn't part

684
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: of the problem that like a separate analyst just to

685
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: discuss field goals. I know that's a specialty and that's

686
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: how the US and it's like I get it, it's okay,

687
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: but like the topic does not stir my imagination to

688
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: begin with. I don't need a separate analyst to come

689
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: in and hit me with that. Like, now, that's different

690
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: than the Kickers of Kickers club is interesting and it's well,

691
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: it was it's like, Okay, we thought, you know, they

692
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: put Pereira on the game that was that was a

693
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: great idea, and now you've got the rules experts on everything.

694
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: So they're trying to go to the next I think

695
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: they could use an analytics person if it was the

696
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: right person in some spots, that could be something. But

697
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: they tried to get cute with this kicking thing with Feeley,

698
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: and it's it's not. Well, it's possible too, and I

699
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: don't want to pile on Jay Feely. It's possible of

700
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: maybe another former kicker was doing the same job. You

701
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: might get something out of it. I just think it's yeah,

702
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: it's just it's too niche, Like I don't need it

703
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: in my ear during the game necessarily. I can Kyle say, Anyhan,

704
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: you're such a good he's such a good coach, like

705
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: such a good play color obviously good at like the

706
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: organizational aspect, because I think it's a credit to him

707
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: that the coaching staff does so well. If I know

708
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: he's not a defensive coach, but like the fact that

709
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: he's restocked that group and they that's he gets credit

710
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: for that too. But let's go for some four than

711
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: ones now and then I mean, you're early in the game,

712
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: they have the Cowboys on their heels and he instead

713
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: of you know, going for fourth and one so close

714
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: in the red zone, he kicks a field goal, and

715
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: then late in the game, where you basically need a

716
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: yard to put the Cowboys away, he punts it back there.

717
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: It would be one thing if your offense wasn't rolling,

718
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: but but they were. Let's let's uh. I wonder if

719
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: they and him are weirdly conservative when it comes to that.

720
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's sometimes, you know, Mike Shanahan, his

721
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: father in his head, you know, a little bit more

722
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: old schoolly, because it certainly flies in the face of

723
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: what we're seeing from almost everyone else there. Working out

724
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: to him and McVeigh, it ended up working out because

725
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: they Dac missed on that deep shot to Cedric Wilson,

726
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: which that would have if he could connect on that.

727
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: That's a huge play. Who was under pressure obviously, But

728
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: before that, yeah, they're at midfield, fourth and one, Deebo

729
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: Samuel sneezes and he gets three yards. Like, let's just

730
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: let's not overthink this. In the future, Kyle, you gotta

731
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: be a little more aggressive on offense. But who we

732
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: to say that the Niners now have eleven wins, feeling

733
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: good going into Lambeau. All right, let us move on.

734
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: These games are saucy and now let's head to Orchard

735
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Park where a blood bath went down. The snap Josh

736
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: gonna throw. It takes three steps back, has all day

737
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: long to scan the field, waiting. Waiting still has time,

738
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: runs to his right. Now he's pressure, gets away from it,

739
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: fires one into the end zone and it is caught.

740
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox makes the catch in the end zone. It's

741
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: at Buffalo touchdown. How did he make that happen? Josh

742
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: Havon had forever to wait for Dawson Knocks to come open. Touchdown, Buffalo.

743
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: That's how it started, and it just never stopped for

744
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: the Bills. John Murphy with the call w g R.

745
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen set a team playoff record with five touchdown passes,

746
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: including two to Dawson Knox. Devin Singletary ran for two

747
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: scores in the first half, and the Bills put on

748
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: one of the greatest offensive clinics you'll ever see postseason

749
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: or otherwise. At seventeen decimation of the rival Patriots in

750
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: the wild card playoff game. This is the crazy thing, Greg,

751
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: Let's start here, because the Bills rang up four hundred

752
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: and eighty yards of offense on fifty one snaps before

753
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: Mitch Drobinsky finished the game with three kneel downs. This

754
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: is one of those games where it's so historically dominant

755
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: that there's just tons of stats. One, the Bills never

756
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: got to fourth down the entire game. That's wild. Number Two,

757
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: that four d eighty yards of total offense that they had,

758
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: it was actually the maximum amount of yards they could

759
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: have had because they scored every time they took the ball.

760
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: They went all the way down the field on seven

761
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: straight possessions, so they had the possibility of gaining four

762
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: and eighty yards in those possessions, and they scored every

763
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: last one of those yards One of the most unbelievable

764
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: performances ever. And you know Bill Belichick and the Patriots.

765
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: What can you say? I think it was the greatest

766
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: performance offensively, I mean efficiency wise, it's the greatest performance

767
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: in NFL history. How could how could you get better

768
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: than being the first team to ever have a game

769
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: without any punts, field goals or turnovers like that is

770
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: they are the first team ever in going back to

771
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: the Usually there's some weird game in like nineteen twenty

772
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: when like you know, like Bronco, you know, Nagurski or

773
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: something somehow like seventy seven touchdowns or whatever. Like they're

774
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: untouched to the end zone times, right, Like the highest

775
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: scoring game is weirdly from one like seventy to forty one.

776
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: But now they're the first team ever to do it.

777
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: It's like they beat Navy when all the guys were

778
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: at war in the Pacific. Like they didn't have a turnover,

779
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: they didn't turn over and downs. I mean there was

780
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: that stack coming out of the last game. Bill check

781
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: and never coached the team that didn't force a punt.

782
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: I mean an opponent didn't punt against him. And they

783
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: now just did it two times in a row. They

784
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: just had two perfect games essentially against Bill Belichick in

785
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 1: a row. And you know, West was on our minds

786
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: on Saturday with with West of Us and and I

787
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: think he would love Joe Burrow. You know, we we've

788
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: we talked about that. And that was a great performance

789
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: by Burrow. It was like a sneaky great. He didn't

790
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: have that many chances to be great, and every time

791
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: he was. But I think he would have really loved

792
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and this performance too. He was always a

793
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: believer in Josh Allen and and didn't like that we were.

794
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I was throwing dirt on him early in his career

795
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: and thought he could be great. And this is a

796
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: guy Josh Allen just at the absolute pinnacle I believe

797
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: of his craft. And he was like that again against

798
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots just a month ago. And to do it

799
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: two times in a row against the Patriots defense that

800
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: had been highly competitive all year is like one of

801
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: the most impressive things we've seen in this entire season.

802
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like a perfectly worded poem. Um,

803
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: it was like a novel that devastates you. Was from

804
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: start to finish. It was flawless and like, uh, you know,

805
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that even forty eight hours ago, I

806
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: was still involved in these um theoretical Patriots first bills

807
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: whose better war? Because I mean I was oft and

808
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: taken out behind the wood shed about five minutes into

809
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: this game. I texted you after the first touchdown game over,

810
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: and I like to do that sometimes, and I think

811
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: my record is spotty in a lot of areas, but

812
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: my game overs Um sometimes are accurate. It was accurate

813
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: this time. I love something if it makes you feel better. Mark,

814
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: we even could tell the last when you got behind

815
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: the Bills or the Pats one last time on Thursday show,

816
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: we could tell you didn't even believe it anymore. So

817
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: now I was because I mean, really I don't. I

818
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: didn't well, I don't think Mark believed in the Bills

819
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: so much. But it seemed like your Patriots hope had

820
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: been I didn't expect the Bills to do what they

821
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: did here, and I think that in a in a

822
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: weird a f c Um was it was a resounding note.

823
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: I think though, if you look at the last five

824
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: weeks for the Patriots, their defense has fallen off, their

825
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: pass rush has fallen off. They can't stop the run.

826
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you want to just look

827
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: at the way that most Patriots teams under Bill Belichick

828
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: would finish the season. This was the counter opposite to that.

829
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: And I just want to read one quick thing that

830
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: Tim Graham. I love this writer from the Athletic cover

831
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: the Bills forever Um. This was a note his opener,

832
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's brief. It said it was four degrees

833
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: at High Marks Stadium seventeen in Greenland, in Moscow in

834
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: thirteen and nom Alaska, the temperature was about fifty degrees

835
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: where the Buffalo Bills left to New England Patriots. That's

836
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: the year round temperature six ft underground. I read that, dude.

837
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: That's such a great line. Uh, And yeah, that's it.

838
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: And you know it did it did make me think.

839
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: And the and the after the game, the Bills players

840
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: they talked about it. They were super annoyed with that

841
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: win the game, that Monday night game, and how the

842
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: media presented that game. And I just find it interesting

843
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: how like, you know, there was a narrative about how

844
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: the great Belichick had outschemed Sean McDermott, Like where is

845
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: the talk on the other side after yesterday's game? Because

846
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: that wasn't that was not just the plan on field

847
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: clinic by the Bills. Was a coaching clinic by the

848
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: Bills who totally changed some of their strategies. They were

849
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: very aggressive in the past as opposed to going run heavy.

850
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: They attacked the Patriots and then New England never made

851
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: any adjustments or never made any that made any difference

852
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: to give up seven straight touchdowns that It's almost unfathomable

853
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: when you think about Bill Belichick and the Patriots that

854
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: we've known, uh for this to have happened. But they

855
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: just they had no answers. There was nothing they could

856
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: do well. Their defensive line was soft. For the last

857
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: four or five weeks this season. They were pretty routinely bullied,

858
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: including by Miami. I thought that was in a game

859
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: that they made it clear that they really wanted to win,

860
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: that they were saying they were treating like a playoff

861
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: game and got pushed around physically. Judeon ended up. You know,

862
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I've been on him lately not playing that much in

863
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: this game. Apparently has been struggling with an injury. He

864
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: played twenty snaps in this game. That that that helps

865
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: a little from his vantage point. They were missing, you know,

866
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: they're starting one of their starting cornerbacks, um who got

867
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: covid uh and uh the replacement John Williams, which is

868
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: one of many of the failed second round cornerbacks Belichick's

869
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: taken over the years, got filed on on one of

870
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: the touchdown throws to Emmanuel Sanders. I mean it was

871
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: it was also just like one of those nights like

872
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: one team has Josh Allen and the other team doesn't.

873
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: One team is in like year four or five of

874
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: building this thing up, and I think was just very

875
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: comfortable in this matchup because how could you not be

876
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: win three weeks ago. You just had the best game

877
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: I thought by any quarterback potentially of the entire NFL

878
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: season until this game. Josh Allen just did it two

879
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: times in a row. I mean, he's on such fire

880
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: that he was trying to throw that ball away to

881
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: Knox the second time around. I mean he he said

882
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: that after the game he was trying to throw it away.

883
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Was he had turned around to go back to the huddle,

884
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: and then he heard the crowd go nuts, right, and

885
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: and even that ended up turning into a touchdown. I

886
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: think that was a third down dated actually, so he

887
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: was if maybe I'm mistaken, I think he was going

888
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: to the bench and he didn't realize it. Uh. It's

889
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: really crazy, But like the game essentially fell over on

890
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: that Micah Hyde interception, which was one of the best

891
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: defensive plays of the year. So you're right, it was

892
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: a great coaching job this This team has done a

893
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: great job table and on the defensive side. But it's

894
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: it was also like great playmakers making plays. Uh. We

895
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: we texted back and forth about that. Dan and into

896
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: me like that hyde play was just a sensational play

897
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: that you kind of got to tip your hat to

898
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: the guy. I was. I was a little harsh on

899
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: mac Jones, uh in the immediate aftermath of that, But

900
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: then you watch it again and it was you know,

901
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: it was just a great play. A guy flies into

902
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: the pick sure right before it gets there. And I

903
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: thought the interest you know, um, I know, but I

904
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: thought what I thought this was gonna be a one

905
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: side of game in favor of the Bills. But I

906
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be the defense throttling down on

907
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: mac Jones. Like mac Jones was far from the problem

908
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: in this game. It seemed like if the if the

909
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: Patriots defense could have just been competitive, it's this could

910
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: have been a different game. Uh. And yet they weren't.

911
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: And I think it it sends you into usually, if

912
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: you're the Patriots or any team, if you go into

913
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: a season with a rookie quarterback and you win double

914
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: digit games and you get to the playoffs, even if

915
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: you lose, it's a it's a success. But to lose

916
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: this way, and knowing the standard of excellence up there.

917
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: I I wonder. I don't think it's gonna be sweeping changes,

918
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: but perhaps we see more changes than we think. On

919
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball at the very least, well,

920
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: I think they had a lot. I agree they had

921
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: a lot to change on defense. I mean, and that's

922
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: a like donta high tower in both of these Bills games.

923
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: I think was it was a problem and that my

924
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: free agent, he that might have been his last game.

925
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy, you know Jamie Collins. Actually I thought

926
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: Collins played pretty well when they brought him back. Laurence guy,

927
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: all these guys have been around it. It was a

928
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: slow offense that couldn't get it done. J C. Jackson's

929
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: free agent. I think they need to make some changes,

930
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: but I think they feel I feel at least like

931
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: it's a successful you're just because of Mac, and that

932
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: they need to just juice up the offense because it's

933
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: an offense first League, and to me, this game was

934
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: a reminder that like, no matter how good you think

935
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: your defense is gonna be, you can get creamed. You

936
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: mentioned like Mac Jones not being the problem, like they

937
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,479
Speaker 1: only had eight drives in this game. Dan, it took

938
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs about six or seven drives to warm up

939
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: on on Sunday night. If it if it had taken

940
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots that long, they would have been shut out. Literally,

941
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: I mean the game would was over. They the Chiefs

942
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: had eight drives in the first half of that game,

943
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: and like the Bills didn't even have that many of

944
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: the whole games. Since you're right, Dan, when when they

945
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: when they won the when the Patriots won that first

946
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: contest in bizarre weather? Uh? And I I fell victim

947
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: to this because I just have thought this about Belichick

948
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: for so long that it was a masterful master class

949
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: of coaching. And then when when the last two Bills

950
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: romps um, where's the Sean McDermott praise, It's like, I

951
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: hear you and I think that he's got Leslie Fraser

952
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: never gets talked about. He's done an awesome job. I mean,

953
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: Brian dable to adjust the offense and tinker it and

954
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: come in with a new approach. I mean he's gonna

955
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: be a head coaching. Um. Alan running is so huge.

956
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Just I know we we hit this before, but it's

957
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: one of the reasons West love Josh Allen was because

958
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: at the end of that rookie year when he just

959
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 1: started running like crazy and like taking over the league

960
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: quietly for a month like that's been a huge difference

961
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: since the Tampa game is Josh Allen running at will

962
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: and it really makes them hard to stop him. On

963
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: those first couple of drives, especially on third downs, he

964
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: killed him. And it's a it's a testament to organization,

965
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: organizational stability that Josh Allen came in very raw. Um

966
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: was not good at all his first year, even if

967
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: he showed maybe some um strides at the end of

968
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: that first year. Second year ended with strides, but a

969
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: really bad playoff exit against Houston. As you guys no

970
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: doubt remember. But they they kept the coaching, they built

971
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: an offense around him. They they adapted the offense as

972
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: they learned more about their quarterback. And all of a sudden,

973
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: now you have something really special up there in Western

974
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: New York. And now we're gonna get something really special,

975
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: which is Buffalo at Kansas City, Josh Allen against Patrick

976
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes on Sunday, the late game, the uh, the Gym

977
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: and Tony game, uh next week, So buckle up. That's

978
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: gonna be wild. By the way. You know how. First

979
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: of all, yes, I was enjoying the game, of course

980
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: I am. You have to understand this is this is

981
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: basically what I have. It's it's I don't I'm not

982
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: trying to rub it into Patriots fans listening in. It's

983
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: just like when you see a team dominate your life

984
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, to see them get a

985
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: come up in there in such a public way, it

986
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: kind of feels good. It's why I have to detat Patriots.

987
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to tolerate you. You know, I

988
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: know these threads and stuff. I understand he's really got

989
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: in your head. Then Greg, if that's your actual strategy,

990
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: that's it's not intention though. But you know I had

991
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: side effect. I had those field good vibes from from

992
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: West of this and I had a couple of Tito's.

993
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: And then that game rolled on, and then I watched

994
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: the the New Oasis documentary about their net Worth concert

995
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: last night, and I was just like, this is a

996
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: nice Saturday. I got a little just got better and better.

997
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: As as it's better to lose in a blow, I

998
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: believe as because I think when you lose to a

999
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: team that's unquestionably better and it's not even close. It's like,

1000
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: what do you do with that? There's nothing, I think,

1001
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: But you don't want to You don't want to have

1002
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: a historically bad performance. I take it from me. My

1003
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: team has had a lot of those. You just don't

1004
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: want to be in the history three books, right. I

1005
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: wonder if Hart agrees with your Patriots take that it

1006
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: was great to get absolutely your house blown up by

1007
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: a nuclear better better than blowing it in a painful way.

1008
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Where it's like we should have done they should They

1009
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done anything more, unfortunately than they did this year.

1010
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: This is what they should have done. Maybe maybe what

1011
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: they should have done is have the Chargers win in

1012
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: week eighteen, uh and then they think they would have

1013
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: had a chance to win a playoff game, but when

1014
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: when they got sent to Buffalo, it was over. This

1015
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: is when you don't think that you think the Raiders

1016
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: were competitive in Cincinnati, and that there's no way the

1017
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: Patriots would have been competitive. It's a it's a different situation.

1018
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: Team that showed up for a wild card weekend. Yeah,

1019
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: they looked like they did not belong. Actually looked freezing.

1020
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: He just looked freezing. And he was like, how can

1021
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: I get this? What? How much fabric can I put

1022
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: over my face? You better be free How could he

1023
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: not be freezing? Well, I mean I know, but you

1024
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: know how like the people that are out there getting

1025
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: their stump, you're thinking, like how quickly did we get

1026
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: on a plane. I'll be in the Bahamas four days

1027
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: from now. It's like it's getting colder and colder. If

1028
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: you're winning, you know, if you're the bills and you've

1029
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: been taking those pills they've been talking about, you're warm,

1030
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: You're good, um the pills, Ricky here in the twilight

1031
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: of your twenties. I just want you to know that

1032
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: this is this is probably how it's going to be

1033
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: from that on. What that The Patriots are like losing,

1034
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: so I'm okay with it, Like I I it's it sucked.

1035
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: And like the group chat with my friends from home

1036
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: like was starting off very very funny, and then it

1037
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: like the texts got funnier and funnier as time went on.

1038
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: And sort of I see where Gregg's coming from with

1039
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: the sentiment, because I did, like, you know, poor cocktail

1040
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: and I'm laying on on the couch and I'm like

1041
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: literally laughing out loud, like it was laughable, like people

1042
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: are saying, and I was like tweeting and like having

1043
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: a great time, like going off on Twitter, and people

1044
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: are like, you're such a like miserable paths. I'm like,

1045
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: I had a great time, Like there was you were

1046
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: just drunk? No, I wasn't. I mean maybe by the

1047
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: end early on, I don't know if you were having

1048
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: a great time, you know, if there's still something novel

1049
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: about it for Patriots fans though, for those that find

1050
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: enjoyment in that moment, I get what you're saying. When

1051
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: that's like eighteen nineteen years ago in a row, it

1052
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: becomes a little less, it becomes less novel, it becomes

1053
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: more tiresome. All of a sudden, I'm like dragging out

1054
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: my a's and that happens, I'm like, make a damn stop.

1055
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: They can't stop anything. I found that I know a

1056
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: lot of people from New England that maybe relocate and

1057
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: you hang out with them and that accent will pop

1058
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: out after a few drinks. Or Brian Kelly for instance,

1059
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: could we could be a New England or that ghosts

1060
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: in Nelson and a new dialect. I feel like I

1061
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: was lower on this Patriots team than you know, throughout,

1062
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: than than some Patriots fans. But I think I'm higher

1063
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: on Mac Jones than than most than than them, Like

1064
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a successful season because I

1065
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: really do believe that Mac Jones is going to be

1066
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: like a top ten type of quarterback for most of

1067
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: his career. And and I know it's early, and I'm

1068
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: counting on him to get into that Joe Burrow plan

1069
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: that he somehow made his arms way stronger in year

1070
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: two because he because Mac Jones needs that and like

1071
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: build up his his body because that's that's not there.

1072
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: But the fact that they found a quarterback, I'm like, okay,

1073
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: and a great defensive tackle on the second that that

1074
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: matters more to me. Not great, but I think that's like,

1075
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: that's a huge win. Before we move on, Dan, I

1076
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: sent a text um yesterday at six thirty one pm,

1077
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: so still relatively holy, where it's like, you know, there's

1078
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: still time left in this game. I sent a text

1079
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: to Greg have you ever seen a more embarrassing game

1080
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: with like four hundred question marks? And he responds, yes, plenty. Okay,

1081
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm not going to text you. I

1082
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: mean oh nine, Ravens is because you have to, you

1083
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: have to adjust for expect tions romantic. You just want

1084
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: to spend out, can't. I can't. Hey, you know what

1085
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: I would love? By the way, you know how if

1086
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: you go on YouTube and there's a listen to Bohemian

1087
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: Rap City but only Freddie Mercury's vocals, and you're just like, Wow,

1088
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: that guy was an amazing talent. I want the radio

1089
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: telecast of the Patriots from yesterday, but it's only Zolac.

1090
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Could anyone do that for me? I will, I will

1091
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: pay you, or at least say thank you on Twitter.

1092
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: I guess is it's like the Drew Brees version of

1093
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: that on NBC. Just silence for most of the broadcast.

1094
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: Total silence. Not a great not a great game for Drew.

1095
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break and then hit the

1096
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: rest of the weekend games in the pocket step prop

1097
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: firing the ten and the end of the ends touched

1098
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: on Kurds City on a tight rope catch and run

1099
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 1: on forty yards on Ford and with teage seconds remaining

1100
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. Oh yes, the Kansas City Chiefs

1101
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: started slow, but when that team turns it on, they

1102
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: still are special. In the second quarter, cap by that

1103
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: late touchdown by Travis Kelsey, they had twenty one more

1104
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: in the second half. Final score Chiefs forty two, Steelers

1105
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: twenty one. The zombie Steelers are no more. Finally a

1106
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: double tap you gott you guys gotta shoot him in

1107
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: the head, and the Chiefs did it and uh Marcus.

1108
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: Was a game that started out as a potential nightmare

1109
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: for Kansas City because the offense couldn't quite get in gear.

1110
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's offense was doing nothing as we expected. But then

1111
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: disaster strikes a U interception by Beholmes on a tip

1112
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: pass and then a sack fum or a running back

1113
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: fumble recovered and score a touchdown by t J. Watt

1114
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you got the defensive score.

1115
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: You're lose thing as and as halftime nears, But that

1116
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: all got quickly wiped away once Kansas City woke up. Yeah,

1117
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: and I think, like, you know, watching this because we were,

1118
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: I guess we were. Why why do we even have

1119
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: to qualify that we were texting during Andy. We're texting

1120
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: all the time about everything every day, so just especially

1121
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: now that they won't let us do the show Togea. Well,

1122
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: that's very We gotta we gotta, we gotta make a

1123
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: stand here. We gotta get back into the studio. Man, well,

1124
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: we need to come you know, we need to come

1125
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: up with our own plan and maybe gotta get Foucci

1126
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: on us. So we've gotta get Fauci on the horn

1127
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: and have Faucci tell the shadowy league figures, just like

1128
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: let the guys in the studio, like got him in

1129
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: the studio, let him do the show. Fauci, Frank Signetti,

1130
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: anyone that can help us out and give us a

1131
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: little bit of an edge here. I mean, I think

1132
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: the game was just got a head coaching job. I

1133
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I know he's busy. We'll see how long

1134
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: he keeps that. But you're right, I liked him in well,

1135
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: I liked him in his other role. I'm saying he's

1136
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: so valuable. Who said he's not still doing that? He's

1137
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: definitely he's still moonlighting as a private eye. Frank Signetti's

1138
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: on the As long as he's still doing it, that's

1139
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Just don't ditch that thing. What we

1140
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: were going to say to each other, we were enjoying

1141
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: the game. I think because it was like, Okay, we knew,

1142
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: I think the end result was always going to probably

1143
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: be a romp, but it didn't look that way early,

1144
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: and it was like, is this game getting weirder and

1145
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: weirder by the minute? And then suddenly, uh, Patrick Mahomes

1146
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: throws five touchdowns in the span of ten minutes and

1147
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, which is obviously never happened before in the

1148
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: NFL playoffs. Yes, yes, I mean it's insane. It's insane.

1149
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean to the point where I mean we tracked

1150
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: these games, but I was like eating tacos and kind

1151
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: of wandering around the house and changing shirts during like

1152
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: the third fourth quarter because it's like this thing is

1153
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: so far cooked and the Steelers are such an unwatchable

1154
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: mess on offense, and it was big Ben's final performance. Um,

1155
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: but it was sad to me. It was a reminder

1156
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: of like, and I know that there's you know, people

1157
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: just disliked big Ben in general, but if you are

1158
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's cooked, don't come back for that final

1159
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: season because you know what. The Steelers actually, I think

1160
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: had a pretty enjoyable campaign for Steelers fans, but big

1161
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: Ben watching him, I just found it depressing. I mean

1162
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: it was inspiring. Like the other fans loved it though

1163
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: they really did like one of his favorites. But my

1164
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: friend Anthony I do the podcast with, he was the

1165
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: same way. They they like loved this season, like it

1166
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: was almost like this proves that Tomlin can never have

1167
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: a losing season, and that like they were, they should

1168
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: have been like a four win team and here they are.

1169
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: So I get that as a fan, It's easy to

1170
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: see why it was enjoyable. I'm just speaking that like

1171
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: something about watching Big Ben. If you look at his

1172
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: throat chart, it was like a smattering of a hundred

1173
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: and fifty passes at the line of scrimmage, like they

1174
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: just they're defending. It happens. It happened. This is how

1175
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: it happens for most guys. It's just like people. It's

1176
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady has it makes it feel like this

1177
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: is something that doesn't happen. But it happened to Eli Manning,

1178
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: it happened to Peyton Manning, it happened to Big Ben,

1179
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: it happened to you name the quarterback, and just about

1180
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: every guy has kind of that, Like you wish he

1181
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: would have retired a year or two earlier, and then

1182
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: you have that one last season and like if big

1183
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Ben would yeah, he was just right first round one

1184
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: and done throughout. It was very good. He was right,

1185
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: but he was he was like he did it. He

1186
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: was Okay, you gotta admit, you gotta admit he did

1187
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: it the year people he was deeply okay, he was.

1188
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: But yes, you're right, he might have been really bad

1189
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: if he came back. That's that's fair. But yeah, I

1190
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: just think like he has to get out of here

1191
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: now because he would have hung around one more year.

1192
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: It would have been like this is how we're gonna

1193
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: remember the guy. It's like, uh, I think I've used

1194
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: this analogy before, but how the Simpsons being on the

1195
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: air still and being just uh, to me subpar for

1196
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: now almost like fifteen twenty years. It kind of like

1197
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: reframes and you don't realize that it was like one

1198
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: of the greatest shows of all time for the first

1199
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: eight years or so of its existence. So Ben needed

1200
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: to go. They need to obviously, they have a lot

1201
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: of work to do, the Steelers because they got to

1202
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: find a quarterback not on the roster, and they gotta

1203
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: add to the blocking obviously just needs to be better.

1204
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 1: They had twenty carries for fifty six yards in this game.

1205
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: Naj Harris, who otherwise had a very good rookie year,

1206
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: twelve for twenty nine in this game. Um so the

1207
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: offense just kind of needs a real jolt and getting

1208
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: Big Ben out the door of a help. Right, That's

1209
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: that's the issue with tom Win. They have not been

1210
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: the same since Mike Monchak left that their offensive line coach.

1211
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: And that's that's something Tomlin hasn't necessarily shown that right

1212
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: now he has the wherewithal to fix is their offense

1213
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: and the right uh coaching decisions, because yeah, they had

1214
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: a chance to win this game. They they stopped the

1215
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: Chiefs for five drives, scoreless and forced two turnovers. So

1216
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: five drives usually gets you to halftime, one of those

1217
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: turnovers resulting in a touchdown, right, so we should like

1218
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: five drives usually gets you to halftime as a defense,

1219
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: So you score seven points, you gave up zero, you

1220
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: forced another turnover to put them in plus territory like

1221
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: they they really could have been in this game. And

1222
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: yet instead when Mahomes got going, I mean it really

1223
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: got going, and that it just reminded me of those

1224
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: other Chiefs playoffs wins that they had when they were

1225
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: really rolling. I'm sure they're gonna think that too, that

1226
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is just like that Texans game.

1227
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: It's just like that Titans game. We can spot anyone.

1228
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: You don't want to be spotting the Bills next week.

1229
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: But if if they do like they're gonna feel like

1230
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: they can do anything, and people can. To your point,

1231
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: this was how Pittsburgh's offense went when the game was

1232
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: still in doubt. This is their drive chart. Three play

1233
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: zero yards, three plays two yards, three plays negative three yards,

1234
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: Then they get the interception. They go five plays eight yards.

1235
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: Then they go six plays twenty yards. Then they forced

1236
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: the fumble and score the touchdowns and now they're winning,

1237
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: uh seven nothing. Somehow immediately give up seventy eight yard touchdown,

1238
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: drive go three three place eight yards, the next drive,

1239
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: give up another touchdown, three place five yards, give up

1240
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: another touchdown, halftime game over. They were much better than

1241
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: the Mike Glennon Giants by the end. By the last

1242
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: three or four weeks, they were about the number twenty nine,

1243
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: number thirty offense in the league. That's why I mean

1244
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: a chance to win. The defense gave them that chance

1245
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: early and then the floor falls out. I thought one

1246
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: thing for the Chiefs going forward. Jerick McKinnon, who you

1247
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: know has been an afterthought for years, played a really

1248
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: good game and fits really well into that offense, and

1249
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: they need someone out of the backfield to be a

1250
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: spark plug like that and like that, I just think

1251
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: he has a bigger role than expected depending on who's available.

1252
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, hundred and forty three yards. They've been waiting

1253
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 1: two years for Clyde Edwards Silaire to make a big

1254
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: impact and or stay healthy, and maybe he's back next week.

1255
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, like McKinnon, you know, it's it's

1256
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: funny like they with the great Mahomes at the controls

1257
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: and you have all that speed with Hardman and Tyreek

1258
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: Hill how and of course Travis Kelsey is on the

1259
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: field like this I think was in general this these

1260
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: last three or four weeks, they still have it like

1261
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: that's still in their DNA and they can go on

1262
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: a heat or now, and it's why I think they're

1263
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: the best team in the a f C. Um and

1264
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're probably if I had to, like,

1265
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: who's gonna win the a f C was gonna come

1266
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: out of this in the next three weeks. The Chiefs

1267
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: are might pick because they're special on that level. Um,

1268
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be wild because I think all these

1269
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: teams that have survived now and the Titans of course,

1270
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: now the Bengals, the Bills, these are all I think,

1271
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: really good teams. It's gonna be fun to see how

1272
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: this AFC shakes out. I'm glad we're getting Chiefs spills.

1273
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: On one hand, I was like, oh, I wish that

1274
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: was the championship game, but then I thought, no, that's stupid,

1275
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 1: because then that game might not you might not even

1276
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: get it. And like, I'm just glad we're getting it,

1277
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: Like it's great to have alan like these are the

1278
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: two guys who are fighting for a f C supremacy.

1279
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: And I know maybe that's maybe the winner of Titans

1280
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: Bengals makes the Super Bowl. We'll see, but these two

1281
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: guys have been the guys. The Chiefs are trying to

1282
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: get to their fourth grade a f C title game.

1283
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: That's incredible. McKinnon just quickly. I think it's kind of

1284
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: an amazing story. He missed two entire years, he tours

1285
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: a c L, missed the entire next season two, like

1286
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: Shanahan believed in him enough to give him that huge conference.

1287
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: He had twelve carries this year, he had more. He

1288
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: had more touches tonight than he had in the entire season,

1289
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: and he was electric in that game. I'm with you

1290
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: that he should be a big time factor next year.

1291
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: And shout out to a Travis Kelsey's mom for making

1292
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: it to both her kids games. She was somehow at

1293
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles game and made it to the Chiefs game

1294
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: by like the fourth quarter, in time to see Travis

1295
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: throw the touchdown. Because I don't want to be a jerk,

1296
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: but did she fly commercial or private? I don't know

1297
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: that she flew private. You know, check your privilege. What

1298
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: do you want to do to throw a party? My

1299
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: guess is she probably you through commercial. I only know

1300
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: this because, like the NFL Twitter account was sending this

1301
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: nonsense out, I interviewed her once very um engaging, uh

1302
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: interesting woman. There are certain Mark Sessler projects that you

1303
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: hear a lot about the Mark Sessler Mother's Day the show.

1304
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: It was largely a disaster because one of the moms

1305
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: was the mom to a player that got um embedded

1306
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: in such a large controversy that we had to pull

1307
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: his part out of the story, and it was probably

1308
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: like it. And we had an executive that used to

1309
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: work at our company that said that blame me for

1310
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: the whole thing and said why are you a child?

1311
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: Or something like that, or just like why why did

1312
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: I ever sign up for this hideous assignment? First of all, Yeah,

1313
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: Mark only had like six projects, so we hear about

1314
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: him a lot. You know. It's like those these little

1315
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: long forms, these long forms, I think, so I don't

1316
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: I think we hear the Mother's the Mother's day. One

1317
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: has gotten a lot of juice, for sure, and like

1318
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: three uber to the airport. She's definitely in commercial and

1319
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: coach that I gotta give it up. There she is.

1320
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: She's flying commercial. That's Donna Kelsey. And I don't know

1321
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: if she's in the extended leg room section, but that's

1322
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. That's not are there. That flight doesn't

1323
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: look like it even has it. That's a great mom.

1324
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean, mom, you wonder what you want her to

1325
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: be riding like luggage basically to earn your approval. Then commercial,

1326
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,959
Speaker 1: we're still still not good enough. Stick them with the dogs,

1327
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: you know. I'm wondering the John Candy U haul from

1328
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: home alone, just just rumbling across the Midwest. Uh no,

1329
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: all right, so there you go. So the Chiefs rollan,

1330
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, we are set up for a glorious

1331
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 1: matchup Bill's Chiefs next week at Kansas City. But let's

1332
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: roll on, all right, Let's take a break. The final

1333
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: game of the weekend, the early game on Sunday. It

1334
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, beginning the defense of their

1335
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: championship in the playoffs. It went to plan. Here's the play,

1336
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: dropping to throw, Brady looks towards the end, Zona tolls

1337
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: caud baul evage hes got a Tampa Bay touched on.

1338
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: That's a summersault and a box. Put the dagger in

1339
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: the heart of the Eagles. Gen Decker ha w f

1340
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: Us with the call. The Buccaneers started hot and coasted

1341
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: to the finish against an over overmatched Eagles team. Final

1342
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: score thirty one fifteen. Tampa Bay sept the tempo from

1343
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: the very beginning. Brady Tom Brady led a pair of

1344
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: long touchdown drives in the opening quarter. They built this

1345
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 1: built a seventeen nothing lead by halftime, coast to the

1346
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: finish line. A little sloppy there in the fourth quarter

1347
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: allowed the Eagles do that thing the Eagles did in

1348
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, remember, and they had all

1349
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: those garbage time points. They did it again here, put

1350
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: up fifteen and the fourth to make it look somewhat presentable.

1351
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,440
Speaker 1: But Mark, this was this was a Bucks team ready

1352
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: to chase that Lombardi again, an Eagles team that was

1353
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, probably shouldn't have been here in the first place,

1354
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: let's be honest. Yeah, I mean this is the one

1355
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: that got a lot of along with the Steelers game,

1356
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: a lot of like why do we have a seventh

1357
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: seed operating at this time of year? And I mean

1358
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 1: I get it. Um, you know, the Bucks were a

1359
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: six seed last year, so you know it can go

1360
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: both ways. But I thought this was all about Tampa's defense,

1361
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: and um, you know a Todd Bowls authored Jim absolutely

1362
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: beautiful and like they you know, I love that. They

1363
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: basically asked him like, are you concerned about Philly's ground

1364
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: game and he said, no, just I'm simply not concerned

1365
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,480
Speaker 1: at all. And the guys like Jordan's Whitehead, Antoine Winfield

1366
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: just shut it down early on. And the thing for

1367
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 1: me that lead that I'd be concerned with going forward?

1368
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: Is this that after Tristan Worths went out that I

1369
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: thought that Brady was hit a lot, um he was hassled,

1370
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: And yeah, they went on and scored their points, but

1371
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: if you look at their drive chart post warths injury,

1372
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: they were pretty much taken out of their offense was

1373
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: not the same on any level. And you know, and

1374
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: Brady's fine throwing to a bunch of guys who would

1375
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: be like third or fourth stringers on other teams because

1376
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,440
Speaker 1: of their injuries. But I don't know if that's survivable

1377
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: if he's operating as one of the Dave Damnishek sort

1378
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 1: of Jenda type pieces. Yeah, Ryan Jensen to the center

1379
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: got hurt and then came back and seemed to play

1380
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: pretty well when he returned, but worse is a huge loss.

1381
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: You go from a uh, was he first team O

1382
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 1: Pro this year? I think he might have been played

1383
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: every snap for them, So so you go from the

1384
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: very best to a backup that struggled. Brady had the

1385
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: lowest time to throw of any game by a quarterback

1386
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: this year, so he was just getting rid of that ball.

1387
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: I think that was the game play anyway, any quarterback

1388
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: or I believe by any quarterback. Yeah, of any game

1389
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: this year two point one second, like just getting it

1390
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball. And then he also had

1391
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: the lowest you know ad average depth of target of

1392
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: any Bucks game this year, So they were throwing it short.

1393
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: I think that was the game plan, but it also

1394
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: cranked up because of the offensive line. It made sense

1395
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: this week, but that's it's a Bruce Arians offense. You

1396
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: need to be able to drop back seven steps sometimes

1397
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: when you want to and throw it deep, and they're

1398
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna need to I think in future weeks. So I

1399
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: think that's well said. But they manage games as well

1400
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: as any team I've ever seen. Like you can look

1401
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: at this box score at the end and the yards

1402
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: or play look kind of even. And this happens a

1403
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: lot with Box Bucks games, but when you watch the game,

1404
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: they really control it. There's such a veteran team and

1405
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: veteran coaches that I think the box scores sometimes lie

1406
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: with the lie when it comes to the Bucks, And

1407
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: definitely with this game, it was such a take care

1408
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: of business game. It was Yeah, there was just there

1409
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: was just a general vibe around it that you know

1410
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: they're they're playing the Milton borough game. We're you know,

1411
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna show it. We need to show to take

1412
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: care of business, move on. It reminds me of like

1413
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: Grand Slam tennis matches this NFL weekend in like the

1414
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: higher seeds, like sometimes you're like watching the early rounds

1415
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: almost to just get information on what you think for

1416
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: the next rounds. The NFL is not supposed to be

1417
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 1: like that, you know, like, you know, I'm looking at

1418
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: it and thinking, who was timing with Tyler Johnson is

1419
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: a little off? You know, that's not a great sign

1420
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: for the future. But okay, the defense is healthy, now,

1421
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: that's a great sign for the future. Should be just

1422
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: worried about this week, and that's not how the playoffs

1423
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: are supposed to be. I don't know, do you think

1424
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: if you're Philly, because you know, you've got teams like

1425
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: Baltimore out there that like, we are a run team.

1426
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna that's our identity because of our quarterback X

1427
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: Y and Z. I don't know if Philly comes back

1428
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: next year with the same exact offense that they turned into,

1429
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: you know a third of the way into the year. Maybe,

1430
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: but it seems to limit them at times in a

1431
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: big way. I mean, they made the playoffs by beating

1432
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of bad teams late, and I just thought,

1433
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: once you like them, they're the last team you wanted

1434
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: to go down. Nobody wants to go down to touchdowns early,

1435
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: but like they needed to. It had to be their

1436
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: run game that that really dictated a lot of things

1437
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: in this game. And when they couldn't do that, you

1438
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: put everything on Jalen Hurts. And I know with those

1439
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: late scores it made it look much better statistically, but

1440
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: I thought Hurts was a little overwhelmed in this game.

1441
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: Brian Baldy, we did some great Sky Sports work today

1442
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: with Neil and the gang over there, and and Baldy

1443
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: had the same takeaway that it just felt like the

1444
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: game was a little too big for Hurts. I almost thought,

1445
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if Mark's boy Minshew gets in this game

1446
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: to try to spark him. But ultimately I guess they

1447
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: decided they're better off with Hurts, who, by the way,

1448
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: and teams hide this stuff all the time. And after

1449
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: the game, he's wearing that walking boot again and he acknowledged, like, yeah, man,

1450
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: that ankle injury I suffered a month ago that that

1451
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: banged me up and you could see it, like when

1452
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: he's scrambling um on Sunday, he's not moving with the

1453
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: same explosive in this that he had earlier in the season.

1454
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: So once you take that element away from this team,

1455
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: they become very ordinary on offense. They only ran the

1456
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: bon nine times other than Hurts his runs. I mean,

1457
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: it was it was seventeen nothing, and it was a

1458
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: lot of you know, before you knew it, and it

1459
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: was a lot of short drives. So that's how that happens.

1460
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: But that's that's a disaster scenario for the Eagles. The

1461
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: Bucks dominated them. You're right, it was one of Hurtz's

1462
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: worst games. He wasn't accurate, he was a little late

1463
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: on decisions. Troy Aikman was annoyed because I think he

1464
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: was worried this was what was going to happen to

1465
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles. He was annoyed he didn't get the Cowboys

1466
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: game that apparently CBS paid for that time slot like

1467
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 1: extra money to have the Sunday afternoon playoff spot, and basically,

1468
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: whatever the best game is, they're going to give that

1469
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 1: to him. And it's not just it's not just I

1470
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: think with Troy and we have the sounds so I

1471
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: wanted because Troy eventually bubbled over, and no, no, that

1472
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,759
Speaker 1: you did a nice job setting up. He eventually bubbled

1473
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: over in the fourth quarter. But it wasn't just that.

1474
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: There was some shenanigans and some payola involved with CBS

1475
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: getting the best NFC game in the first round of playoffs.

1476
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: It's at the tone. He got it Romo, the Cowboys

1477
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: quarterback that doesn't have any rings, and here I'm Aikman,

1478
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm Aikman, I got three and I'm chopped liver. Let's

1479
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: listen to Troy Aikman boil over because he got stuck

1480
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: with the bad NFC game on Sunday and that game

1481
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: coming up, which is on CBS, which is the Dallas

1482
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: Cowboys hosting the San Francisco forty Niners. We saw San

1483
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: Francisco with that overtime win in l A last weekend.

1484
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good game. It's gonna be a

1485
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: great game. I'm in a really good game. I think

1486
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who like to be calling

1487
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: that game. But it should be a lot of fun.

1488
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: Did you see Aikman's looking at bucks. It's gonna be

1489
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: a great game, and he's looking at him, He's thinking,

1490
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: should I say it? Should I say what I've been

1491
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: yelling about behind the scenes for days now? Screwed, I'm

1492
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: gonna say it. I wish we were calling that game.

1493
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: It was funny. His his exasperation was was one the

1494
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: more entertaining parts of this. I'm I never liked the

1495
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: seventh seed because I just thought twelve was the perfect number.

1496
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 1: But I think arguing against the seven seed just because

1497
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: these two games were bad, uh, is the wrong argument,

1498
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 1: just because I think that's that's random. You watch, it's

1499
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: such a small samples as you watch games on any

1500
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: given weekend, and usually this would be a pretty good game,

1501
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: and usually they're closer. It didn't work out that way,

1502
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: But like, you could have too great to seven games

1503
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: next year very easily, and then will everyone be back

1504
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: on board. I like because twelve made sense to me,

1505
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: But but I think it's a little random. We got

1506
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: you need like a ten year sample size before we

1507
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: judged the seventh seed. But I I three out of

1508
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: four games have have stunk, by the way, the Saints

1509
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 1: bear stunk. Bill's Colts was actually the best game maybe

1510
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: a wild card weekend last year. It's it's time consuming.

1511
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: You're asking people to sit down for three and a

1512
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: half hours and watching a game that has zero competitive value.

1513
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: And it's the playoffs. It's not it's not the same

1514
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: as Week eight or Week twelve. It should it shouldn't be.

1515
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: And so it is an eyesore and like it if

1516
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: you get three or four years into this and that's

1517
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: the way it is. It's not a good product for

1518
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I think they you know, they're never

1519
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: going to change it. They'll probably add two more playoff

1520
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 1: teams if anything. Well I know is the Steelers. We're

1521
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: a mediocre team with the worst quarterback in the league. Um,

1522
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: this team, this Eagles team was a deeply middling team.

1523
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: The Matt Naggy like post year one Bears team made

1524
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year and they were completely forgettable. That

1525
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: Colts team, I know Greg loves them because Philip Rivers

1526
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: was on it, but that is not a very memorable team.

1527
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: And they went out that was a good team. I

1528
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,719
Speaker 1: mean they were ahead and a buffalo in the fourth

1529
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: quarter against the two there. But Greg, for you wanting

1530
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: sample size there the aberration, right, No, no, you're right.

1531
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if I guess what I'm saying it's a

1532
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: little random. It's like we could have easily had the

1533
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: Chargers and you know, in that seventh spot, and then

1534
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: maybe that's the game of the weekend. A lot of

1535
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,480
Speaker 1: this just comes to write. It just it just increases

1536
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 1: the chances tenfold that a team that shouldn't be playing

1537
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: in the bracket is in the bracket. But guess what,

1538
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: it makes more money for the league. And we're also

1539
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: told that it makes the end of the regular season

1540
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: more competitive with their being uh not only one team

1541
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: getting the buy. I don't know if that's true or not,

1542
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: but that we're that's what we're told. You know, we're

1543
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: told a lot of things as humans that we just

1544
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: do what we're told and hope things work out, and

1545
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: they don't always work out. I'm a good little boy,

1546
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: and I will say I think it's a good product.

1547
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: To keep doing it. Make it make the season another

1548
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: three or four weeks long, add four more playoff teams.

1549
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: Have the season start in late July and go until

1550
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 1: early April. It's also weird the but we don't know

1551
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: who the Bucks are are playing. You know, they're playing

1552
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: the Monday Night winner. But it's just weird. On Sunday night.

1553
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: We don't know who they're playing, but that will be

1554
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: a great game. And I loved as a as a

1555
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: as someone who likes this Bucks team, like to see

1556
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: the defense show up. They just look like a team

1557
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: that was ready for the playoffs to start. And that

1558
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: was the defense that we saw from a year ago. Yeah,

1559
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls all week was hearing about how dangerous this

1560
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: Eagles running game is and this is upset city and

1561
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: and and the Bulls of Sons. Was just like, bro,

1562
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: just wait, wait, all right now, you guys gotta wait

1563
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: a couple of days before you hear us again. Tuesday,

1564
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna be on the scene, uh for Monday Night Football,

1565
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: the primetime game between the Rams and the Cardinals. I like,

1566
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: whoever comes out of that game, barring some type of

1567
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: like mystical performance, I'm gonna pick the Bucks. But that

1568
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: pass rush, that offensive line issue for the Bucks is

1569
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: gonna be trouble. I'm thinking about Aaron Donald and Don

1570
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: Miller potentially or Chandler Joe. I mean interesting, look what

1571
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: look what it did to the Chiefs a year ago.

1572
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: So I mean it's like very good point. These tackles

1573
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: are gold. It was a long time ago. But the

1574
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: Rams should have some confidence. Uh pretty pretty soundly beating

1575
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: the Bucks way back and what was that week three?

1576
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: If if they get through, I'm not I'm not counting anything,

1577
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: especially after Mark apparently switched his lock. I thought he

1578
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: got his lack right. I thought you got the forty

1579
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: Niners right, But then you sent the tweet out after

1580
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: the forty Niners had one. Confusedly, which didn't I lock

1581
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals at the end of our show or am

1582
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: I misremembering that I switched it to the Cardinals. You

1583
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: did say that. I did hear you say that at

1584
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: some point, but it's hard to keep track of all.

1585
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: I think that means that you locked four different teams, right. Well,

1586
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: it's not a great feeling because I kind of forgot

1587
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: who I had previously locked it was. Did I mean,

1588
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: I have to go back and listen to the show

1589
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: now because I thought I went Patriots, Niners, then Cardinals, um.

1590
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: But to find out that according to the to the

1591
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: to the official guy the site that like I had

1592
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: picked the Niners and then moved off that in the

1593
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: had one. What am I doing here but lock it Up?

1594
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: It Up? His name is lock it Up? Unlock it up.

1595
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: That's what I'll call him, lock it up. Uh No,

1596
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: you did pick three. I think we can get to

1597
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,480
Speaker 1: the bottom of this right now, Mark, because you initially

1598
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: you got hot in the pants. Ricky nailed that lock.

1599
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: By the way, while you're trying to figure this, good job, rick,

1600
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: She's she's locked two in a row, Bills over Patriots.

1601
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: You've really got a good beat on this on this

1602
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: matchup here, I think you got super hot in the

1603
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: pants and locked up the Bengals, I think, and then

1604
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: you move to the Patriots, and then you know, I

1605
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: think it's started with the Patriots. We'll have to check

1606
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: Theriots and the Niners, then the Niners, and then I

1607
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: do think you switched to the Cardinals at the very end,

1608
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: and when I'm gonna be there, and so I have

1609
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: something now. I'm not roote, you know, I am contractually

1610
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: obligated to say pretty things about the Rams, but um,

1611
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm not really rooting for either team, but i'd like

1612
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: I would like to make it clear the rest of

1613
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: us on the podcast, we are not contractually obligated to

1614
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: say nice things about the right. That's the way in

1615
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: your head. Mark, It's like my kids are Rams fans,

1616
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: and I can't even like get it in me to

1617
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: like be particularly like a big family. I'm like, I'm

1618
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: happy for them. You can choose to believe me them.

1619
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: So you need the Cardinals to win in l A

1620
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: or the comp is pretty much over. It's funny you

1621
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: referred back at some point. I don't remember what program

1622
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: it was or what of Like you off handedly mentioned

1623
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: how you had locked up the Cardinals, and I was like,

1624
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: did you I don't. I never was there for that.

1625
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: Someone else checked the tape. I don't have time check

1626
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: it by tomorrow night. I think we should just let

1627
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: it stand as Cardinals and we move forward, right. It

1628
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: takes the stakes of that game say that after listen,

1629
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 1: I'm just taking care of business. I don't after watching

1630
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: uh the Balls of Sounds. Finally Todd Bowles comes through

1631
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: for me. Um, it actually wasn't. It was not Todd's

1632
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: fault the way things went to New York. He does

1633
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: deserve a second big chair. You have to hurt you

1634
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 1: when when Troy just like out of nowhere had a

1635
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: sniper fire of like, oh, you can't count Todd Bowles

1636
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: the time in New York. That's a mess of an

1637
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: organization like you, but they are who said that more

1638
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 1: than me on this podcast. When people say that and

1639
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: then they go, oh sorry, Dan, it's like, dude, I

1640
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: know the Jets suck and our run poorly. No one

1641
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: knows better than me. Well maybe your dad, but no

1642
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 1: one beyond your dad. At least the old man got

1643
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: to see Nameth. But we don't need to talk about

1644
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 1: the Jets right now. The Jets don't exist right now.

1645
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: Only a few teams are left and we're gonna get

1646
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: to him. Uh So Tuesday you'll hear from us again,

1647
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: do you around? The NFL broadcast will be back at

1648
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: the end of next week, and of course we have

1649
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: a preview show, So another big week for the podcast.

1650
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for listening. Um, congratulations Cincinnati and all

1651
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,440
Speaker 1: the Westlings, who, by the way, locked up the Bengals successfully.

1652
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: I think we all hit on our locks leading into

1653
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 1: this Monday night game. So a lot to be excited

1654
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: about and thank you for listening. And that's it till Tuesday. Yes,