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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Bree. Yes, the great Merril Reese who's been.

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Speaker 3: A voice of the Eagles for I don't know fifty years,

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Speaker 3: as long as I can remember. The UH Champs is

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Speaker 3: pretty wild yesterday in my city.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: They estimated I thought light. I mean I was at

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Speaker 3: both of the parades. This one was larger than the

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Speaker 3: last one in twenty nineteen. It was our twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: It was wild. I mean it was a wild scene.

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Speaker 3: Goodlock in Philadelphia from South Philly where Lincoln financial Field

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Speaker 3: and the Brigade commenced down Broad Street, which is the

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Speaker 3: and then onto the Parkway to the Art Museum steps

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Speaker 3: and all the speeches. Great day in my town yesterday,

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Speaker 3: celebrating the Eagles as the Super Bowl Champs.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 3: We are the Fellaws Jason Fitzam, Anthony Gargano, as we

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Speaker 4: Were you at the parade? Like, did Saquan pull you

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Speaker 4: over the gate?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: What do we got here? What's the parade tradition here

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Speaker 4: for the Gargano family? Were you taking the kids to

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Speaker 4: the parade? What do we do now?

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Speaker 2: I was there. I was doing work, So I was

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Speaker 2: at the parade.

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Speaker 3: You know, it work, but we get a capturing the

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Speaker 3: whole thing, and.

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Speaker 2: It was it was, you know, it was awesome. I

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Speaker 2: gotta tell you, it's it still amazes me because.

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Speaker 3: The gridlock that started at you know, seven o'clock in

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Speaker 3: the morning, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty wild. Man.

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Speaker 3: The town loves it fits it's uh, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: It was. It was a party yesterday, mad.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they are the kids proparade or like where

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Speaker 4: are we on? Just like his look, I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of experience with championship parades.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the kids from school but yeah, ok, kid, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: all the schools were off.

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Speaker 2: The kids were off.

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Speaker 3: They decided they won to hang with their friends, so

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Speaker 2: So which was fine, you know, I was like, yeah, go, guys,

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Speaker 3: To be with their buddies, so you know, it's all good.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those days. It was just a memorable,

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Speaker 3: beautiful remembrance of what sports can do to a community.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Sports calvinizes communities. It's it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: When people come together and are happy, and we have

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Speaker 3: two million happy people in the streets.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot like rapture, it must be. Like. So

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Speaker 2: it was. I hope.

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Speaker 3: I mean this, it sounds stupid, but I really hope

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Speaker 3: that for those towns that never gotten to experience that

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Speaker 3: I hope you get to experience it, because it's, Uh,

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Speaker 3: it's cool, man, it really is.

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's amazing because you're right when you

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Speaker 4: talk about what these championship moments represent, and it just

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Speaker 4: makes you think about we all know the NFL's king,

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Speaker 4: but when you start talking about particularly Super Bowl trophies

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Speaker 4: and sometimes especially because we've had a couple of dynasties lately,

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Speaker 4: I felt like time stopped for a second for everybody

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Speaker 4: that that is not that doesn't get to experiences as often,

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Speaker 4: and you just feel how, I don't know special, how

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Speaker 4: different it is, how much it hits That's why, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's intoxicate, man, it really is.

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Speaker 3: It's it's I got I tell you. I was wondering

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Speaker 3: any up until twenty nine, twenty eighteen, and in twenty

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Speaker 2: Parade that we have in this town in the years.

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Speaker 2: And so it was like this, this.

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Speaker 3: Whole kind of thing, and you know, you know, it

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Speaker 3: And so we heard this nine years later and they're

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Speaker 3: it going to be like? And it was bigger, and

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Speaker 3: it was I think the first one, they were still

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Speaker 3: like they just enjoyed themselves. Again, it was it was bigger.

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Speaker 3: It was market league bigger. The town swelled just really

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Speaker 3: wild man, I'm just thinking about it now. And uh,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was amazing. I mean right from the

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Speaker 2: And look, I do think that this town expected it.

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Speaker 3: They were they believed Eagles were the better team, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I think it was pretty obvious. I think

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Speaker 3: this this whole thing has been a party for you know,

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Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks now. I remember that they

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Speaker 3: win the championship game in a in a.

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Speaker 2: Pretty easy fashion against Washington, and then you know, the

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Speaker 3: There was no drama that game. We'll talk all about it,

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Speaker 4: That's an amazing place to be in because it is funny,

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Speaker 4: know the running joke, not even joke with the commentary.

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Speaker 4: How many times have I said it? It's like, man,

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Speaker 4: the only way you beat the Chiefs is if you

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Speaker 4: blow them out. And you know, nobody blows them out. Well,

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Speaker 4: they did Super Bowl. They certainly did. There's no doubt

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Speaker 4: when you've got you know what I always call a

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Speaker 4: beer game in the Super Bowl, you're putting your feet

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Speaker 4: for every fan that's been able to enjoy a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: which is already such an incredible thing, to be able

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Speaker 4: like you're celebrating the memories with your friends, like the

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Speaker 4: game is just the game is in hand. It's one

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Speaker 4: of the more stunning parts of the process that we'll

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Speaker 4: remember for a long time on that one, Like this

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Speaker 4: wasn't a nail bier all the way down to the

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Speaker 4: end of how are we possibly going to keep it

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Speaker 4: away from a homes? This was just a thorough ass whooping.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's a that's a that's a different fun

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Speaker 2: Game, dude.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, we listen, you know again, we

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Speaker 3: don't have a ton of experience. And the Super Bowl thing, right,

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Speaker 3: you know the four the uh five, I guess it was.

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Speaker 3: It was February oh five, Eagles lose to New England,

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Speaker 3: and then in eighty nineteen eighty Eagles lose to your Raiders,

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Speaker 3: and you know again it was twenty eighteen, and then

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Speaker 3: you know last week, I mean, that's it and they

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Speaker 3: I was with you know, my family and a couple

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Speaker 3: a great It was a great night. Like I enjoyed

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Speaker 3: that a lot. I mean, it was just one of

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Speaker 3: the great knights that you'll ever have, that you'll ever

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Speaker 3: experience your team winning in a route and the way

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Speaker 3: they did it was many very much a Philadelphia dream,

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Speaker 3: like a team that embodied the city that this is

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Speaker 3: pretty much a fan of defense. And you know, unsung people,

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Speaker 3: the Quakers found in Philadelphia, so they're they're always about

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Speaker 3: the collective, and I think this team was about the collective.

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Speaker 2: It was a great defense. I mean, that's how you win.

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Speaker 3: They won up front, completely dominated the Chiefs offensive line.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, Fitzi, but you know, I

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Speaker 3: hear people talking about Andy Reid no adjustments, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what are you adjusting to? You couldn't Patrick Mahomes couldn't breathe.

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Speaker 2: There was no adjusting that you could do. There's nothing.

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Speaker 3: You're to run the run the ball, Okay, good luck,

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Speaker 3: go try You're gonna get back in the game running

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Speaker 3: I don't see any of it. We'll talk about it,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not sure what you could do.

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Speaker 4: They're even showing repeatedly, and I think it's fair to

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Speaker 4: show a lot of these, you know, highlight low lights

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Speaker 4: of Travis Kelcey the way he played this game. He

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Speaker 4: was slow, you know, and that's been ripped all over

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Speaker 4: social media. But it's just a reminder that you can

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Speaker 4: if your guys just aren't capable of executing. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just this is the second time we've seen Mahomes

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Speaker 4: that was, you know, probably one of the most predictable

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Speaker 4: gonna be the thing. And I'm with you, like the

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Speaker 4: concept of well, what are you doing to adjust to it?

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Speaker 4: I just it pretends that there's one magical thing that

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Speaker 4: you were gonna suddenly do that was gonna leave Mahomes

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Speaker 4: up right, And I just don't think that they had

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Speaker 4: the horses to be able to execute that against that

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Speaker 4: that defensive line. And if anything, it's just a reminder

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Speaker 4: to the rest of the AFC. Frankly, we spend all

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Speaker 4: of this time, all year just obsessed over whether Josh Allen,

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, or Joe Burrow can beat Patrick Mahomes. And

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Speaker 4: it's like, y' all, the method is right here. It's

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Speaker 4: not easy. It's not easy to find a front four

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Speaker 4: that's going to get home without blitzing. But let's just

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Speaker 4: be real. If I'm working on roster construction in the

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Speaker 4: AFC or in the AFC West, particularly, I may never

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Speaker 4: have a quarterback that's better than my homes. Like, if

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Speaker 4: that's the line in the sand, you don't need to

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Speaker 4: have that. You need to have a defensive line that

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Speaker 4: can absolutely whoop their offensive lines ass And I mean

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Speaker 4: that we prove a concept of it twice. So it's

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Speaker 4: just this is like, and I'm sitting here looking at

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Speaker 4: the draft coming up that has somebody like Abduel Carter

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Speaker 4: that seems to be the clear best pass rusher, and

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the rest of the AFC and saying, hey, guys,

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Speaker 4: keep it simple, Like it's just how many hogs can

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Speaker 4: you get up front? They can get after my homes

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Speaker 4: that's the way you beat him. So you know, I

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Speaker 4: think this guy isn't falling, and I don't think that

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Speaker 4: there's one great adjustment, but I do think that this

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Speaker 3: Fitz Anthony Gargano. You know, listen to the there's a

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Speaker 4: They tried, the Bills couldn't get them. So you know,

434
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Speaker 4: I just to turn this into a narrative that the

435
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 4: Chiefs are dead, I think is absolutely ignorant.

436
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

437
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 3: I just I don't say it. I don't say it all.

438
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: I mean, again, those are back to the Super Bowl.

439
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Speaker 3: But I think they're going to be in a mix.

440
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: You know, Bills aren't only where, Ravens aren't only where.

441
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: I think the Chargers are a team that could step up.

442
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you know Dever's will to rise. I mean,

443
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: we'll go through it.

444
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 2: And yeah, but think about that.

445
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Speaker 4: They just think about that. Like my answer to all

446
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: is why why didn't they get him this year? This

447
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 4: version of the Chiefs was so bad they didn't get

448
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 4: him this year. So you know, because I hear you, certainly,

449
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: I think the Bills and the Ravens are supposed to

450
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Speaker 4: represent the hope of the AFC moving forward, But man,

451
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I just the flawed Chiefs won fifteen

452
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Speaker 4: regular season games, and the flawed Chiefs still had home

453
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Speaker 4: field advantage in the playoffs, and the flawed Chiefs still

454
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Speaker 4: went to the Super Bowl. So I got, Yeah, all

455
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 4: of these other teams are are very good and you

456
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Speaker 4: never know. But if the thought was, man, this version

457
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: of the Chiefs is is not going to be easy

458
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 4: to stop two weeks ago. That didn't change from the

459
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 4: Super Bowl because the team that finally beat them, they're

460
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Speaker 4: not going to have to face till the Super Bowl,

461
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 4: so like to me, it's just it's fool's goal from

462
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 4: the AFC to sit and pretend it means the Chiefs

463
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Speaker 4: are dead.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mean, let's face it, right, you

465
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Speaker 3: know they're One of the things that was interesting is

466
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: it shows you how important home field is, right because

467
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: by getting home field throughout, you're able to miss the Ravens,

468
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Speaker 3: like you didn't have to go through Baltimore and Buffalo.

469
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Speaker 2: Like I don't know that they could have gone through both.

470
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Speaker 3: The Texans taxed them, but you know, had they played

471
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Speaker 3: the Ravens the week before, I don't know if that,

472
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Speaker 3: if they were able to overcome having to play both

473
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Speaker 3: those teams, Baldemore could have got them, or after playing

474
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Speaker 3: such a really tough, tough game, you know, they Buffalo.

475
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Speaker 2: Maybe that was that one little piece that Buffalo needed, right.

476
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, man, I don't know. I just I feel

477
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: if I'm the Chiefs, the last thing I need to

478
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 4: do is panic. Right now. I need to figure out

479
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: my offensive line. I need to get some better weapons.

480
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 4: I think we all know that I need to make

481
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Speaker 4: the offense a little easier from a homes there are

482
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Speaker 4: things that I can do to make this all better.

483
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Speaker 4: But man, we're going to presume that the Chiefs don't

484
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Speaker 4: have an offseason too. They still have one of the

485
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Speaker 4: best front offices in the NFL and one of the

486
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Speaker 4: best coaches of all time.

487
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Speaker 3: And they didn't have Racy Rice too. Yeah, really good.

488
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Speaker 3: Like so when you have Rights and Worthy, they're really good.

489
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Speaker 3: I do think you need an update. You know, the

490
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: check was good. I think you can use another back

491
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 3: and you know it goes back to your front, right,

492
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: you get that offensive line has been was a problem

493
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Speaker 3: all year long. They stuck the band aid on by

494
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Speaker 3: moving Tony outside, but like you saw in that game,

495
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: Nolan Smith abused him on the outside, I manhandle him

496
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 3: and so by doing that, you weaken two positions. Caliendo

497
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: got destroyed in the middle and Tony killed the outside

498
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: and the rest of the line that played well either.

499
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Speaker 3: So you know you're gonna have to fix that, Like

500
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Speaker 3: that's number one priority, which is that is to fix

501
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: that line. We could talk about weapons and you know,

502
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: the running back and this and that, it comes down

503
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Speaker 3: to our front, comes down to their line.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

505
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's why and I think that's why those

506
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Speaker 3: games were close all year long.

507
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Speaker 2: No.

508
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Speaker 4: I mean that's to me, you had the weakest version

509
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Speaker 4: of the Chiefs who we've seen all year, and they

510
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: still won fifteen games. I just you know that that

511
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: has to be a statement of something, and you're right,

512
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 4: like the offensive I'll go back to there are certain

513
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Speaker 4: organizations that just don't seem to do the best at

514
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: particular positions. For years living in Tennessee, it was a

515
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: constant conversation in Nashville why they just as an organization

516
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: they could never identify wide receivers. It's just they struggle

517
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: with that year in and year out. And there are

518
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: certain teams that we know identify, they struggle to identify

519
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: certain positions. I do wonder if the Chiefs, you know,

520
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: are struggling a little bit in this era, because it's

521
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: not the first time that they've had some issues with

522
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Speaker 4: their offensive line. That being said, that hasn't prevented them

523
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Speaker 4: from being in the AFC Championship. Like that's the part

524
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Speaker 4: when we start talking about, you know, the death of

525
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Speaker 4: this dynasty, and then I think about the fact that

526
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes in his career has never at least been

527
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 4: in the AFC Championship game. To me, before we think

528
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: anything is actually broken with the Chiefs permanently. Let's see

529
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Speaker 4: them not get to the AFC Championship Game once for

530
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: the love of God, you know, So like what defines

531
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: broken here because this team, for all of its failings,

532
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: was in the Super Bowl. So you know, until I

533
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: see Patrick Mahomes finish the season that doesn't end in

534
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: at least the AFC Championship Game, I'm not going to

535
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: presume that there's anything wrong with the Chiefs that can't

536
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: get fixed.

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Speaker 2: No, No, now you're it's a great point. No, it

538
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: really is.

539
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's a great point. It goes

540
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: back to again, how you build it and now you're

541
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: how you're draft. I mean, you know Howie roseman man

542
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: he is. He solidified himself as the best GM in football.

543
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: I mean what he did to that defense. He rebuilt

544
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: that entire defense in just a couple of years. And

545
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: he's made and it's young. The scary thing about the

546
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: NFC is Carter's young. Nolan Smith is young. The Kobe

547
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: Dean who was hurt for the game is young. Quigytt

548
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: Mitchell and Cooper de Gene two big pieces in the secondary.

549
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: They're young. They have a kid who's the third round

550
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: pick who's going to be a player. His name is

551
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: Jalx Hunt. He had a nice game. He was a

552
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: he was a project from Abilene Christian. I mean, they're young,

553
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: and a lot of places on that defense, they're scary young.

554
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: That's one of the interesting things because I keep hearing, well,

555
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: they're gonna be in salary cap hell in a couple

556
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: of years because of the way these contracts are structured.

557
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, a couple of things. Number One,

558
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: who cares about a couple of years from now? When

559
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: you just won the Super Bowl? I just want to

560
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: loudly just scream to the world, shut up. You won

561
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Nobody's worried about contracts in a couple

562
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: of years. The other part of it is part of

563
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 4: the reason this team was so dominant is because they've

564
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: drive did so well the last few years. I'm gonna

565
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: presume that they'll continue to do that because the GM

566
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: that's drafting is one of the best in the league.

567
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: And then also, by the way, he's really good at

568
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: figuring out the contract thing. So, like you know, it

569
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: was I literally laughed out loud the day after the

570
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: Super Bowl when I started seeing, well, salary cap hell

571
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: is about to hit the Eagles in two years and

572
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 4: then let's see how things go. And it's like, oh, okay, cool,

573
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: Like what are we worried about? We can't even enjoy

574
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl without worrying about the salary cap in

575
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: two years when they have to resign people and blah

576
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: blah blah, Like that's just that's dumb assery. We don't

577
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: need in our lives. Just enjoy the Super Bowl. Yeah, I.

578
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: Don't get that. I mean, that's all part of navigating

579
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: the NFL.

580
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean, all right, who knows

581
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen in two years, right, Like you know,

582
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: well you have to replenish the roster in some way

583
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: or yeah, all right, they're gonna lose off of this team.

584
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: They'll probably lose Becton, who should get paid, Milton Williams,

585
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: who's defensive tackle should get paid. They'll re sign Zach Bond,

586
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: who's their other free agent. And that's really it, I mean,

587
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: you know, I mean that's kind of where you stand.

588
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: And let's let's see what what guys.

589
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: Like Josh wet who's who's an end, who's he'll be

590
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: one of the biggest ends out there, and they'll lose him.

591
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: I just a guy like McKay. I don't know. I'm

592
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: not going to presume anything until we see. You never know,

593
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: for guys that were labeled a bust in their careers

594
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: just all of a sudden, the in the trash heap

595
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: because of the way they're perceived from where they were drafted.

596
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: And there's this function of certain organizations and then you

597
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: turn around and you find an organization that believes in

598
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: you and you win a super Bowl, Like I just

599
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: we have to me it's presumption. I'm not gonna yet

600
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: presume that MacKaye is just out the door to get

601
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: a ton of money, depending on what they can do

602
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: for him, if they want to bring him back. You know.

603
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: Just there's certain guys that I look at and say, man, same,

604
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: It's just no different to me than Sam Donald. I know,

605
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure he wants to be a starter somewhere for

606
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: a ton of money, yes, But I also don't think

607
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: Sam Donald's going to be you know, if he had

608
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: a comparable offer to stay someplace that you know got

609
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: the best of him, or to go to it just

610
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 4: a dumpster fire of an organization. I don't know necessarily that.

611
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: I'm as certain as everybody else that the players want

612
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: a lesser location, even if it's a little more money.

613
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: It's just I think it's so individualistic on the player

614
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: and where they want to be.

615
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's a great point. Great point, all right,

616
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: I think quick till will come right back.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

618
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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see how you watched it, like what

619
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Speaker 3: your thoughts, because it was such a personal story for me, uh,

620
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: my town, my team, my childhood team, the whole thing. Uh,

621
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: you know, kids in the whole the whole nine family,

622
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: all about the Eagles.

623
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Speaker 2: So I'm really curious to see how you know, what

624
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: you thought of it.

625
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: When you thought of the game, you know, I can

626
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: imagine it kind of probably sucked because you just want

627
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: a game, right, So I'm curious how you watched it.

628
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: And then we're gonna start kind of going.

629
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Speaker 3: Through each of the teams and kind of where they stand,

630
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: almost like a kind of state of the Union for

631
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Speaker 3: each of these teams.

632
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 2: We'll do that as well.

633
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: Where the Fellas right here as always every Saturday on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano from the

635
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Speaker 3: ti raq dot Com Studios. So FITCHI, what'd you do,

636
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Speaker 3: like take me into your world?

637
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Speaker 4: Well, okay, a couple of things here. Number one, I

638
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: you know, last week was my flu game, so I'll

639
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 4: be honest.

640
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: I was.

641
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: I had to isolate the flu in pneumonia all week,

642
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: so you know it.

643
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, I don't know how you did it,

644
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: and you were great, like nobody would know that you

645
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: were sick at all.

646
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Speaker 4: It's funny because we finished the show and I actually

647
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: was like, man, I think I need to make an

648
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 4: appointment to go to like a walking clinic is up

649
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: in Connecticut. You have to make those appointments.

650
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Speaker 2: So I made an.

651
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Speaker 4: Appointment for whatever, like one o'clock was the first I

652
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: could get in, and I slept from the time we

653
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: finished our show until I had to go to the clinic.

654
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: And I walk in and they make you take like

655
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: a flu test, you know, and the doctor comes in,

656
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: He's like, it took like two minutes for your flu

657
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: to come back, so for you to come back positive

658
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: with the flu. I had a fever of between one

659
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Speaker 4: hundred and one and one hundred and two for like

660
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Speaker 4: four almost five days.

661
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

662
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: I was sick. So I will tell you it's weird

663
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: because the Super Bowl is such a communal watching experience

664
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 4: in some ways, and we talked going into it about like, okay, well,

665
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: what's the right way to watch it? And you know,

666
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: usually just group of people for me, that sort of thing,

667
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 4: all like minded fans. It was weird just sitting at

668
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: home alone and being like, I'm watching the super Bowl.

669
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: That being said, I think to me there was a

670
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: how do I say that. It sounds cheesy, but like

671
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: there was a beautiful just watching that pass rush and

672
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 4: the way it got home was so disruptive. I found

673
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 4: myself just kind of on the edge of my seat

674
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 4: enjoying the art of pass rush disruption, if that makes sense.

675
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: It just it was such an interesting game to watch

676
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: from that like will there be anything they can do

677
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: that will buy them anytime? And you just, man, it

678
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: felt so easy for Philly throughout that I think that

679
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 4: was the most stunning thing for me watching it, but

680
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: also kind of crazy because we spent you know, last week,

681
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: talked about the right things to watch and all that,

682
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: and I found myself watching and thinking, wow, I thought

683
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: for me personally, I thought the halftime show fell flat

684
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: no offense to Kendrick fans, I get it. I just

685
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: think that that deep social statements don't work on halftime shows,

686
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: Like if you have to do fifty two videos to

687
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: tell me about your deep symbolism, then it was too deep.

688
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, for common fans just sitting

689
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: back watching, I just I thought the halftime show was

690
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: kind of meh. I thought the commercials were kind of pooring,

691
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 4: and then by the second half the game was out

692
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: of control. So I sat there watching the Super Bowl

693
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 4: thinking like, this is a weirdly anti climactic game to

694
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: watch because the game is kind of meh, the ads

695
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: are definitely meh. The halftime show didn't charge me up

696
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: with some great energy. It was kind of meh. So

697
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 4: it was an interestingly forgettable but enjoyable Super Bowl.

698
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Speaker 2: If that makes sense, it makes perfect sense, And I

699
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: was curious if that's that's kind of how I would

700
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: imagine it for you. It's funny because we consume it

701
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: entirely different. So at halftime, you know, my cousin and

702
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: I and my friend and you know, we went outside

703
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: like cause we were we were.

704
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: Stunned, right, like stunned that it was at that point

705
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: twenty four nothing, and so we were outside just kind

706
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 3: of talking about it. All right, well, all right, they're

707
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: gonna get the ball in the first half and then

708
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: to begin the first the second half and you know,

709
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: what can they do and it's the game over, right,

710
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: Like we were having these conversations, So there was no

711
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: halftime show. I couldn't tell you one commercial because commercials

712
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 3: were like talking about the game, you know, like it

713
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: was okay, oh my god, you know, it's to our

714
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: eyes deceive us, like they're There was a point where

715
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: we were like, this is probably ball game, but nobody

716
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: wants to say it.

717
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: Right afterday too soon, but you know it's Paul game.

718
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 4: Oh god, that's so real.

719
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, like nobody wanted to say it, but we all

720
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: knew it. We were like, oh my god, this game

721
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 3: could be over. And it was like, this game is over,

722
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: like you knew and plus you knew how it was

723
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: going right like you you saw them able to dominate

724
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 3: the one of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: Where the fellas right here. Fox Sports Radio.

726
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Speaker 1: You're listening Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, buddy.

728
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: Oh happy happy happy Fox. No football Saturday. We'll get

729
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: into some college hoops. It's a weird week FITSI because

730
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: for this no no football and again, dude, like this

731
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: is where the NBA. I know, I rail on it

732
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: every week, but it just disappoints me so much. Like

733
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: you know that there's a captive audience this weekend without football,

734
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: why wouldn't you program to that? Like why wouldn't you

735
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 3: schedule a Sunday like triple header, quadruple header of great games?

736
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 3: Now I realize you can't really tell who's gonna be good,

737
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: but you know you have an idea, like why wouldn't

738
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: you matter this Sunday be like like some epic Sunday

739
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: come out in a gate after the Super Bowl. Instead,

740
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 3: you have your All Star Game that nobody cares about

741
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: because it's just stupid.

742
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think all Star games in general, through no

743
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: fault of their own, are antiquated, thinking that people are

744
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: never going to care about any anymore. It's just and

745
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: everybody will talk about how much All Star games mattered,

746
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: you know when we were kids sort of thing, But

747
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: you just got to remember that the entire process of

748
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 4: watching sports were so different when we were kids. Like,

749
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Speaker 4: if you want to go back to what all Star

750
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: games meant in the nineties. I think you also have

751
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: to acknowledge that in the nineties it was tough to

752
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: find some of these sports night in and night out,

753
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: Like you didn't have the opportunity to just buy NBA

754
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 4: League mass See every day like so, so by the

755
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: very nature of the way we now consume sports and

756
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: the ability to stream them absolutely anywhere, anytime, from any device,

757
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: all Star games just simply can't be as meaningful. I

758
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: think the NHL has done a nice job with this

759
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: international tournament, but like.

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Speaker 2: Like I was about to say, I freaking love the

761
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: Four Nations.

762
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the Oh, oh my god.

763
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Speaker 2: It's awesome.

764
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: I watched first two games, and I know that this game,

765
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: the second game was a blowout with USA Finland, but

766
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: it was close up until the very period in the

767
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: USA erupted. And I can't wait for today USA Canada. Dude,

768
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's gonna be great.

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Speaker 4: I think that's where you you just have to get

770
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 4: really creative in doing something that serves your audience in

771
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Speaker 4: a different way. So I'm not sure that an All

772
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 4: Star we can can ever do that. To your point,

773
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: and we know what brands resonate like this is the annual,

774
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 4: as somebody that does love college basketball, the annual sort

775
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 4: of moment for me where I sit here and say, God,

776
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Speaker 4: if I was the czar of college basketball, I would

777
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: have you know, Duke North Carolina at the Sunday after

778
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl at one pm on CBS. I get

779
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: just we're used to watching football at one pm on

780
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: CBS and Fox, right, So if I'm CBS and Fox

781
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: that both have rights to college basketball at one pm

782
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: four pm on Sunday the weekend after the Super Bowl,

783
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Speaker 4: I would program the biggest matchups I possibly can. Like,

784
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: Fox has Big Ten Basketball, so give me all, give

785
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: me whatever you think the best game in the Big

786
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: Ten is going to be. Now, we get number one

787
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: versus Number two tonight in college basketball, so we are

788
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 4: getting some of that. But I just think that there's

789
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: a level of I would be putting programmable. You know,

790
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: you're used to watching things. I'm going to give you

791
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 4: things to watch at those same times on those same

792
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: networks as a way to just remind you, Hey, my

793
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 4: sport's now going on. In the NBA, doing an All

794
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: Star weekend doesn't do any of.

795
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: That to me, No, it does nothing. It just you

796
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: gotta highlight the best of your of your league. That's

797
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: what you gotta do.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when you know you have an

799
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Speaker 3: audience to capture, you gotta go after it. You know,

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Speaker 3: there is still this mindset that we're the NBA, or

801
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: we're Major League Baseball, or we're in the NHL or

802
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: where this where that you guys still got to realize

803
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: that the number one dog is football, it's the NFL.

804
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 3: So all right, knowing that, how do I capture sports?

805
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: Like obviously, if you just got a piece of the

806
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: audience that is used to watching sports on Sunday, you're

807
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: doing well.

808
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a good When we talk about sort

809
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: of what the expectations are for some of these sports,

810
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: I think just reminding everybody that you're not even in

811
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: the same stratosphere and don't need to be. You know,

812
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: when people talk about spring football, this is you. And

813
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: I have said this in the past, but I'll remind

814
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: everybody again the objective of spring football the UFL as

815
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 4: it now is is not to turn around and compete

816
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: with the NFL. That's impossible. The objective of spring football

817
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: is to simply say, okay, is this getting better ratings

818
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 4: than what other random sport I would have put on

819
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: the weekend in the middle of spring. So is this

820
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 4: getting bigger ratings than a random college basketball we get

821
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 4: or comparable ratings to the random college basketball And that's why,

822
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 4: you know, even when I covered the XFL when it

823
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 4: first came in for ESPN at the time, I used

824
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: to tell people all the time, like the XFL is

825
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 4: wildly successful because it's being judged against by by people

826
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Speaker 4: at ESPN at the time, it was being judged against

827
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: essentially whatever the modern wide world of sports thing is, right,

828
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: And that's a much easier number to hit. Like you're

829
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: not trying to hit twenty million. You hit a few

830
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: million people watching it. That's better than you know, a

831
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: random Van Dey versus Belmont basketball game would it done?

832
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: And so I just think we have to have a

833
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 4: little bit of that perspective on what's trying to be

834
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Speaker 4: accomplished in these in these windows after the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just the idea of understanding that you have

836
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: an audience to grab. I think that's the that's the

837
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: big thing, Like, you know, first you have to you

838
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: have to comprehend that that's that you have something there,

839
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like, come on, man, you

840
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 3: could do something, you could capture something, you do it right.

841
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: And so I look at it now and I'm going,

842
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: I can't believe this weekend because it gets up now.

843
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: I know it's Valentine's Day weekend and everything else and

844
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: you're going out. But you know, like people still watch sports,

845
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: Like Sunday afternoon is a is a perfect day for that.

846
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: And you look at the Sunday and you go, what's

847
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: on Sunday tomorrow? Like, really think about it. What's on tomorrow?

848
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: You got Creighton Saint John's on FS one, Michigan Ohio State,

849
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: and and that's that's really it? Is that not so

850
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: like that's your sports on Sunday.

851
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not good enough.

852
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: And the like and the and then the NBA All

853
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Star Game at night that nobody wants to watch.

854
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: I'm looking.

855
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 3: I mean, and there's DASCAR, right, it's a big deal

856
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: for the Daytona five hundred. So you're you're, you're and

857
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: then you have have golf. But I'm talking, I was

858
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: talking predominantly you know, team sports.

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00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: You got yet that that's and again I will say

860
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: to college basketball's like it's so much tougher to be

861
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: able to just flex something in college basketball. So I

862
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: get that that's you know, easier said than done. Like

863
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 4: college basketball does have number one versus Number two tonight

864
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: in the ear this afternoon, and they just both happen

865
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Speaker 4: to be Like the Iron Bowl is now a basketball matchup,

866
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 4: and that's.

867
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: Right, you just luck out because that's conference.

868
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just got they got lucky Alabama Auburn is

869
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's the premiere college basketball game of

870
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: the weekend, and they got lucky that it happens to

871
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 4: be the weekend after the Super Bowl. But even at that,

872
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 4: you know, it's just that that's the one thing that

873
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: they sort of have sitting here that we're all gravitating

874
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 4: to as the big the big map. But you're right,

875
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 4: there just isn't another thing that we're sitting here and saying.

876
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 4: And to me, that's where we also have to remember

877
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: that sometimes the best matchup is not actually the matchup

878
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: that's going to gravitate the most places. Like we know

879
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: that Duke North Carolina will always get the best ratings

880
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 4: even if one of those teams sucks, right, Like, So

881
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: those are the moments that again, if I was putting

882
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: the schedule together. You know, any opportunity to have Duke

883
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 4: UNC Kentucky, Kansas, give me all my blue bloods like that.

884
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: We know are people gravitate towards watching them and you know,

885
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 4: stack them together on this weekend. You know, we always

886
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: get the challenges early in the college basketball season, you know,

887
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 4: the Big ten sec challenge or whichever one they're doing

888
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 4: in Hawaii. I wish they were doing stuff like that

889
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: this weekend. That was just dude.

890
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: You know what's so funny you said that because I

891
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: think these leagues kind it sucks backwards, like everything that's

892
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: exactly right. Why are you wasting really fun stuff in

893
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season that gets lost with football.

894
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: It's lost, like you like, you got the NFL and

895
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: college football going on, all right, that's it, that's all.

896
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: That's it, man, Like, what are you doing? Nobody's watching you.

897
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: There's great games early on, and by the way, teams

898
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: find themselves, and especially college basketball with the portal and

899
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 3: everything else, the teams don't come together until you know,

900
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: after January, when you finally start to learn how to

901
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 3: play with one another, you kind of settle in the rolls.

902
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: Now, how much more interesting would it.

903
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: Be if you had the ACC Big Ten Challenge this

904
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: week and played a bunch of games on Sunday.

905
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 4: Remember a few years ago when they had the game

906
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: on the aircraft or the what the carrier? I can't

907
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 4: even know what they're called.

908
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the aircraft carrier.

909
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: Give me that, like give me like give me weird basketball,

910
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: you know in strange places that are just oh my god,

911
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: that seems like something I have to watch, Like I'd

912
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 4: be all in. I mean, I think you just gotta

913
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 4: have to be a little bit of a salesman. You

914
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: have to have a little bit of a Wringling Brothers

915
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 4: Barnum and Bailey sort of approach to how am I

916
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 4: going to get people to come to my circus tent?

917
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: And you know that that's the hard part of it

918
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 4: is like.

919
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: Like like why can't you do the ACC Big Ten Challenge?

920
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: You know from one one place?

921
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: Right?

922
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: Like, so maybe you have it going on on a Sunday, right,

923
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: so maybe play four games on Sunday. Two are at

924
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: Cameron and two are at you know, you know ann Arbor, right,

925
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: pick your wherever and then you you make it special too, right,

926
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 3: like you know, you bring a fab five out like

927
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: you do all kind of dude, do whatever you can,

928
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 3: like just have fun with it. And you know, because

929
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 3: you're doing it for TV, it make it make it special.

930
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: Like if you're the NBA, like you know that this

931
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: weekend's here, right, so instead of putting your All Star

932
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,479
Speaker 3: game here, put your All Star Game somewhere else.

933
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: You know you could do it.

934
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I mean the following weekend, whatever

935
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: you want to do. But what like can you imagine

936
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: if you had any kind of force that you go,

937
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: all right, I'm going to work backwards on the schedule.

938
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that this weekend is a

939
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: big deal. And this weekend I'm gonna have start with

940
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 3: Celtics Lakers. Now, you had no idea that Luca gets

941
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: traded there, but you're gonna start with Celtics Lakers because

942
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 3: it's Celtics Lakers, right, And then you.

943
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: Get lucky that Luca gets moved to LA and people

944
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 2: would love to watch that matchup.

945
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 4: I mean, you could approach the Sunday after Super Bowl

946
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: the very same way that they have approached Christmas Day

947
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 4: for years. We're gonna we're gonna make this the biggest brands.

948
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna blow this thing up. We're gonna make it

949
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: a huge day for the NBA. We're gonna turn it

950
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 4: into a spectacle, like the NBA could. I mean, if

951
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 4: your belief is that they're doing all of these other

952
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: things to try and get people to pay attention from

953
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 4: the stupid you know, court painting and all you know,

954
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 4: from the Cup series and all of these things, like

955
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: they are trying to create initiatives. So the fact is

956
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: they realize that they need to bring more attention to

957
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: the regular season. I guess my thing is, if you're

958
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: gonna try and create initiatives, why not try and create

959
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: it over this weekend. This just feels like the right

960
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: weekend to do that, you know.

961
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: And I mean they they spent so much noise and

962
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: Adam Silver spent so much ref trying to defend his

963
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: cup that nobody cares about. Well, if you put the

964
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: cup on now, people might watch it and maybe they'll

965
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: act someday care about it. I still think it's ridiculous

966
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: because you're playing for the same like it's the same

967
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: teams that are playing like it doesn't mean anything. Oh

968
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 3: we got the cup?

969
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 2: Who cares? Nobody cares?

970
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 3: It's not special enough, But maybe there's something else you

971
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: can do instead of the Cup. What if you had

972
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: this would actually be fun. What if you had these

973
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: teams play and you can easily do it this weekend

974
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 3: and play March Madness style.

975
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: NBA.

976
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: You know, do the do a March Madness bracket with

977
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: NBA teams and the first two games games or month.

978
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: It's Saturday and Sunday of this weekend, so you have.

979
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: Wall to wall games tip off from noon until ten

980
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: pm Eastern.

981
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: On Saturday and Sunday. People, I'd watch that. Oh that's cool. Back,

982
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: I got games tipping off every that's fun.

983
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know. That's a way to create a spectacle. Yeah,

984
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 4: you're right, And you know, I just keep thinking about

985
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 4: We've talked so often about the fact that at the

986
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: beginning of the w the beginning of the NBA season

987
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: is just lost, and the beginning of college past, I mean,

988
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 4: most of college basketball is lost. And it sort of

989
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: didn't hit me until a couple of days ago as

990
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 4: we got through the Super Bowl, and it's like, man,

991
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: Selection Sunday is literally a month away, and so we

992
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: have one quality month of college basketball to just capture

993
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 4: the imagination of everybody you got, You got this one

994
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: month to suddenly remind everybody why they love the sport

995
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 4: and who's good and who's not good and transfer portal

996
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 4: and nil make it so tough to keep up with

997
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: rosters for so many casuals. Anyway, it's its own full

998
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: time job. Like it's it's just man the opportunity here.

999
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: I love your idea of blasting like twenty four to seven.

1000
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: Like you know, we college basketball always starts with the

1001
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 4: midnight madness sort of stuff. I'd be doing all of

1002
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 4: that stick right now, anything right now to get people

1003
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: to realize, you know, hey, this this Big ten team

1004
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 4: is actually pretty good, and this this ACC team is

1005
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 4: actually bad and things like you've got to you've got

1006
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 4: to really acknowledge. And I say that I use this

1007
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: phrase a lot in sports, but like I think we

1008
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: have to acknowledge the while you were footballing part of society,

1009
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 4: which is you know, a debate I've had with guys

1010
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: like Jay Billis for years of Man, I understand how

1011
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: much you love college basketball, but ain't nobody watching it

1012
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: until we get through. So now you've got to catch

1013
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 4: everybody up, and you've got to catch fire. You gotta

1014
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: catch momentum, you got to get people to truly give

1015
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 4: a damn about it in a matter of days and

1016
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 4: weeks that set up your entire sport for the most

1017
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: important time that they have. I think you have to

1018
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: handle it a lot more, with a lot more understanding

1019
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: of exactly where you are in the spectrum and exactly

1020
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: what it's going to take to get people to care.

1021
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, fancy, yes, I mean it's ridiculous, by the way,

1022
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 3: at the very least, while it saves some games for tomorrow,

1023
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 3: like if you're if you're of these conferences and your

1024
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:48,479
Speaker 3: scheduled games and really it's TV wow, Like tomorrow should

1025
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 3: be wall to wall college basketball, Like how stupid.

1026
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: Is is the NCAA in the sense of.

1027
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: You got the NHL not even playing tomorrow because of

1028
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 3: the nation's torn it and the NBA All Star gave

1029
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: it nobody cares about Like you have a cat, Like

1030
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 3: if there's ever a day to do twel to wool

1031
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: hoops college basketball, it's today and tomorrow, and I would

1032
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: I would do it, you know, like you said the

1033
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: twenty four hours, I'd have to twenty four hours of

1034
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: the forty eight hours of hoops, right, you start you know,

1035
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: Saturday morning at you know, ten eastern, right, wake up, breakfast,

1036
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: breakfast basketball. You know, like there's a million things you

1037
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: can do, bacon in basketball, right, like you know, and

1038
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 3: you have all day Saturday.

1039
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: You have a million games.

1040
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: You could stagger play them all throughout weird times, all night,

1041
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: all night too.

1042
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: There's forty eight hours of hoop. I mean that that

1043
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: moves and the eels.

1044
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 4: I know.

1045
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: You go, oh you suffer from football.

1046
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: With then you doing a whole ad campaign, a whole

1047
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: social media campaign. Football withdrawal got you jump into forty

1048
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: eight hours of hoops. Prepare for March Madness, Prepare for

1049
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: your bracket now.

1050
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: I mean honestly, Like I just mentioned the XFL, now

1051
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: the UFL. I saw an ad that they ran during

1052
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and they're like spring football starts in

1053
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 4: only six weeks. And I just laughed out loud by myself.

1054
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: I laughed out loud in the house, and I thought, well,

1055
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 4: that's stupid. Like your opportunity to start spring football was

1056
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 4: this weekend. Yeah, it's that's the other thing. Have it

1057
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: ready to go? You have it ready to go?

1058
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: You guys, like, what's wrong? You do you not understand?

1059
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: You in nature, Like how hard is it to figure out?

1060
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 3: But in six weeks you're done. You lost them through

1061
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 3: past it. I know in six weeks I'll be past it,

1062
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: all right, I'll be past my addiction going. All right, Well,

1063
00:58:55,080 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: I guess I'm on the baseball and basketball and hockey,

1064
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: and you know I've settled in the major and I

1065
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: one I have to tell you, I have to be

1066
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: honest with you. I mean, I'm a sports not right,

1067
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: So I'll watch you know, you give me like a

1068
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: like a major golf tournament. I'll watch it on a

1069
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: Sunday and enjoy it and enjoy it's you know, it's

1070
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: how great the players are. I'm not the biggest NASCAR guy.

1071
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I mean Daytona five hundred is

1072
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: a big deal. I'd love team sports, right I do.

1073
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: I love basketball, I love hockey, I love baseball, and

1074
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: you know, I mean football we talk about.

1075
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: All the time.

1076
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: Those leagues are, you know, even soccer, right, Like I

1077
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: look at the world like, I mean the other day

1078
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: we're watching Champions League. It was incredible, right, Like I

1079
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: would program to America in sports fans there too.

1080
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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand how you see how dominant football

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Speaker 3: is and you gotta be able to draw upon it.

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Speaker 2: All.

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Speaker 4: That requires self awareness, That's all I'll say. Just requires

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Speaker 4: self awareness.

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Speaker 3: So you got to tell me on the other side

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Speaker 3: what you and Jay debate, because I love Jay Bellis too.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic, But I'm curious to see what

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Speaker 3: he says about that. Where the fellas Jason Fitz Anthony

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Speaker 3: Anthony Gargana Fellas coming laugh from the Tireck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: FITZI how bad and we'll get to which I want

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Speaker 3: to do, stated the team addressed to. We'll go through

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01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: each of the teams in their state. But how badly

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Speaker 3: are you going to have to withdrawal? Because dude, I'm

1107
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: already in my team. You know, I was lucky, right

1108
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: My team won the Super Bowl was fantastic. We had

1109
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: a great parade yesterday. It was special and unified the city.

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01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful thing. But I look around, I go,

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01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,959
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm going to miss it right, can't

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Speaker 3: wait until combine the draft. But as fun, as much

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01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: fun as they are, still not the games.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the draft is such a

1115
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: season of hope that yeah, it's not games, but you

1116
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 4: don't have to deal with the heartbreak that comes with games.

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: I genuinely believe that the draft has become truly the

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01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 4: savor of, you know, sort of the offseason and the

1119
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 4: way it feels, because my god, I mean, I'm consuming

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Speaker 4: constant mock draft to stuff right now. I think most

1121
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 4: fans are everybody's in the how do we catch a mode? Now,

1122
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: Even Chiefs fans are sitting there reading mock drafts trying

1123
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 4: to figure out which offensive lineman they're going to draft. Like,

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Speaker 4: I think that there is some element of the end

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Speaker 4: of April becomes the thing that we can all look

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Speaker 4: forward to. So we distract ourselves that it doesn't really

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01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: set in that football has gone gone to me until

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Speaker 4: the beginning of May every year because the draft stuff

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Speaker 4: begins to be such a big part of the conversation,

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Speaker 4: and all of your favorite shows and podcasts are still

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: running of football content, and you still feel like you're

1132
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: connected to your favorite team because you understand what they're

1133
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: trying to accomplish in all of these dumb things. So

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Speaker 4: I think the draft is really the band aid on it.

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01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 4: But I do agree, by the way, like not for nothing.

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01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's nuts. I like the draft too,

1137
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: I do. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it, but like to me, it's a completely

1139
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: different category of entertainment in the sense that we spend

1140
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 3: so much time watching games. And I know you're like

1141
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 3: me right, like hey, during college and NFL, I mean

1142
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm consuming it. I mean that's my Thursday night, watch

1143
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 3: the Thursday night game all the time, all day Saturday,

1144
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: all day Sunday, Sunday night Monday, and then if there's

1145
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 3: any other specials, like you're watching every game. You know,

1146
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 3: that's just what it is. And when you're when those

1147
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: games go, well, you know it's like you have all

1148
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: it's like you're rediscovering time because you're in such a routine.

1149
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 4: You're definitely right that you find like I find myself

1150
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 4: having more you know, just time like that that's real

1151
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 4: one hundred percent. But so much of like I think

1152
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 4: about routine and so much of what I consume and

1153
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 4: if i'm if you know, when I wake up in

1154
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 4: the morning and I turn on the TV, the first

1155
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 4: thing that get up is talking about is still football, right, Like,

1156
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 4: so like we haven't reached that spot yet where football

1157
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 4: conversation has died off. So I think that's part of

1158
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 4: what you know, whether it's podcasts or TV shows, there's

1159
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 4: just still so much out there that is consumed with

1160
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 4: that energy that it feels like it's still it's still

1161
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 4: a massive are You're right? Like it's different than watching

1162
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, Like I don't consume as much

1164
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 3: ancillary content as I do watching games like I actually

1165
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: enjoy I love the games themselves, right, I analyze the

1166
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: game where Rotchet gave coaches tape.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's part of it.

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01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: Obviously, it's our job, so we can devote a lot

1169
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 3: of that time that what people other people can right, sure,

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01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: So it's a gift, but.

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01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: Like I'm not.

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Speaker 3: The biggest I gotta watch during the day or every

1173
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: other show, especially when we do that stuff every day.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a fine line for me. I think

1175
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 4: sometimes there's like a thought process, Okay, what are people

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 4: talking about and what are people hot on? Like that's

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01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 4: part of why I listen to it. What part of

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01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: it is too, Like I just like when I'm working out,

1179
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 4: I enjoy sports talk radio when I'm working out, so

1180
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like I'm consuming that every day

1181
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 4: and I'm still now like more than ever. You know,

1182
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 4: the process is started of going back and trying to

1183
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 4: rewatch whoever I can to get ready for draft content.

1184
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 4: So I'm still you know, sitting here on YouTube trying

1185
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 4: to find clips and highlights. So I think that that's

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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 4: a little part of why the band aid is still there.

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Speaker 4: But I also think that just because of what when

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01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 4: when your team stinks as much as my team has

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01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 4: stunk for most of my life, you just the games

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01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 4: themselves are more more heartbreak and let down, like the draft.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. That's a great point, man, that's all the time.

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01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 4: Like people that play Madden a lot are people that

1193
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 4: have a football team that they love that sucks because

1194
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 4: the only way you're ever going to see and win

1195
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 4: is if you're playing the video game version. You know,

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01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 4: It's like that's there's this reality to what the draft is.

1197
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 4: And I've said before that I think it's you know,

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 4: I think it's the most fun event of the sports calendar,

1199
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Speaker 4: and you know that's people just go nuts for it.

1200
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 4: But it's also because like for that weekend, you think

1201
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 4: your team got drastically better more often than not, you

1202
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 4: like you can walk yourself into it and you don't

1203
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 4: have to sit there and be reminded yet that you're

1204
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 4: probably wrong in that your team probably sucks. So you know,

1205
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 4: like there's suspended disbelief, like you know, it's just it's

1206
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: it's been a while, brother, since you you had one

1207
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 4: of those seasons where it's like, man, fourteen weeks out

1208
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 4: of this year, I'm gonna hate them myself that I

1209
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 4: watched this thing. That's what my most of my years

1210
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 4: are like.

1211
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: So you know, it's just it's a great point, dude.

1212
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: You're right. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right about that.

1213
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: You you must.

1214
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 3: Because as much as you like watching other teams, what

1215
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 3: heightens your interests in the in the other teams.

1216
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: Is when your team's good, yeah, because it just it

1217
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: just it just makes everything more acute right your senses.

1218
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 4: It's amazing how different Sundays feel when your team is

1219
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 4: actually good. And I don't mean team is winning. I

1220
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 4: say this to you all the time. I think there's

1221
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: a difference between a team that wins in a team

1222
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 4: that is good. And one of the rarest things in

1223
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 4: my life is waking up every week and thinking, you

1224
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: know what, my favorite team is really good. Like the

1225
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 4: Raiders have had two playoffs seasons since two thousand and two,

1226
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 4: and in both of those playoff seasons, a lot of

1227
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 4: lucky outcomes, a lot of weird games where you're like, man,

1228
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 4: I can't believe we won that. That was fun. But

1229
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 4: you didn't wake up on Sunday saying, hey, we are clearly.

1230
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 4: Like I haven't truly had more than maybe four years

1231
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 4: in my adult life that I remember waking up and

1232
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: thinking my favorite team is better than your team today.

1233
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 4: And that is such a rush, Like that is such

1234
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 4: an incredible feeling when you wake up and you're like,

1235
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 4: now we're gonna win today. Like that's as opposed to

1236
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 4: waking up and saying, well, the Raiders are on and

1237
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 4: that's what, you know, Like, that's the nicest thing I

1238
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 4: can say for the majority of my adult life. As

1239
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 4: you wake up and I know that I'm gonna have

1240
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: the feels, I know it's gonna give me all my emotion,

1241
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 4: i know I'm gonna care too much, and I'm more

1242
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 4: likely than not gonna see my favorite team lose. So

1243
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 4: that's just, you know, that's the part of the defeated

1244
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 4: mentality that comes with, you know, year and in year out,

1245
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 4: just watching your team suck and you know, just getting

1246
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 4: to the point where you can actually watch competent football

1247
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 4: more often. They're like, if your team consistently wins more

1248
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 4: games than they lose, then you are one of the

1249
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 4: lucky ones in the NFL. And I just have to

1250
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 4: say that loud, because there are plenty of like, I know,

1251
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 4: Browns fans gotta be feeling this, Titans fans feeling this,

1252
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 4: Giants fans feeling this, Raiders fans feeling this. Like you

1253
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 4: can go up and down the list, and I said

1254
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 4: this repeatedly this year. There were about a dozen teams

1255
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: that were terrible this year. Not just bad, they were terrible,

1256
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 4: but we forget that now because the draft is here,

1257
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 4: so everybody starts to feel this positivity, like, no, we're

1258
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: just one quarterback away. Suddenly we're gonna be Washington. We're

1259
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 4: gonna be just like Houston was.

1260
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna turn it around one year.

1261
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 4: That all comes from you know what starts now because

1262
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: now you know nobody can prove you wrong. All you

1263
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 4: could do is sit there and live in your genie.

1264
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 4: You know, rub the genie Lamb. You're gonna get to

1265
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,839
Speaker 4: all your wishes, they're all gonna come true. Your offseason

1266
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 4: is gonna be better than everybody else's. Your team's gonna

1267
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 4: turn it around. So I still think that there's this

1268
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 4: planet hope that lasts until May.

1269
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: That's really interesting way to look at it, Really an

1270
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: interesting way that the halo of hope. And it's all

1271
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 3: about the draft. You know, it's funny we and I

1272
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 3: love the draft too, so like I get it, like

1273
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 3: the drafts, I love it. But you know better anybody

1274
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 3: that you know, you've got to be extremely lucky for

1275
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: your draft to bear immediate fruit. Yeah, yeah, let alone

1276
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: bear fruit at all, because a lot of them just

1277
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 3: you know, fall to the ground. And are unedible right

1278
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: to continue to algy.

1279
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 4: I mean that that's the whole like constant. Look, if

1280
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 4: your team's favorite GM or your favorite teams GM, I

1281
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 4: should say, lands five starters in an offseason, it's a

1282
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 4: hall of fame offseason. If they land five quality, oh

1283
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 4: my god, new starters, that's a hall of fame. That's

1284
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 4: Howie Roseman. You are sitting here saying you did what

1285
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 4: between the draft and free agency combined? If you land

1286
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 4: five high level starters, you are sitting there and you

1287
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 4: are like, that is that's an off season you should

1288
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 4: tell your grandkids about. Like, that's the line. And I

1289
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 4: remind people of that because if you look in the

1290
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 4: mirror honestly and you realize that your favorite team needs

1291
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Speaker 4: more than let's say, like four guys to plug in,

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01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 4: your favorite team is not going to take a meteorically

1293
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 4: ninety nine percent of the time. And that's the message

1294
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 4: to suck that nobody really wants to hear. But the

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 4: reality of it is, most teams are gonna get the

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01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 4: draft wrong. Most teams are gonna spend a bunch of

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 4: money the opening day of free agency, and that money's

1298
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 4: gonna be wasted because guys are let go for a reason,

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01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 4: like most guys don't hit the open market for you

1300
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So everybody's gonna sit here and say, well,

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Speaker 4: all we need is a couple of offensive linemen and

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01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 4: a couple of guys on the defensive side of the ball. Well, okay, yeah,

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01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 4: they ain't getting that in one offseason. Like you're just

1304
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 4: you're not. But nobody wants that logic right now. Everybody

1305
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 4: just wants to feel good. So you know, as a

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 4: Raiders fan, I think my team probably needs thirteen fourteen

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 4: new starters to be a really competitive team. That's three

1308
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 4: off I got three years before my team's gonna be

1309
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 4: any good if they have three home run off seasons.

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 4: And like, nobody wants to hear that message, but I

1311
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 4: think that's way more it's reality.

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Speaker 2: Well you know, wait a week, like you mentioned Howie and.

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01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 3: They got five right on offitch, you got Barkley and

1314
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: mckaype acton right so we got you got your big

1315
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 3: right guard to solidify your run game, and your all

1316
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,440
Speaker 3: world running.

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01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: Back, who, by the way, could have signed anywhere else.

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 3: And then you got Zach Bond, who they originally saw

1319
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: people thought that they were signing him to be an

1320
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 3: edge guy. He becomes a middle linebacker, becomes a who

1321
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: doesn't leave the field, and he's out of the plane,

1322
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,879
Speaker 3: out of his mind. And then you got two corners,

1323
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: an outside corner and a nickel corner and Mitchell and

1324
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Speaker 3: de Gene. I mean, that's five starters, impactful starters.

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Speaker 4: And there are people around the league that are saying

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01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 4: it's one of the best off seasons ever, Like that's

1327
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 4: just to get five new starters is a home run

1328
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame offseason. So now ask yourself, how many teams,

1329
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 4: how many starters does your favorite team actually need? And

1330
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 4: if the answer is anywhere near that, you're screwed.

1331
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 2: Radio Fox Sports Radio.

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01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: Fellas from the tire rack dot Com studios. So my

1333
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 3: man Nicky chimes in and says, the NFL Draft isn't football, really,

1334
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: but it's like the staging of a battle, and the

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01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: battle is actually the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty good.

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 4: That's deep.

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Speaker 2: I like that a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think there's something too the fact that

1340
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 4: the season, I hope. Like the reason I think that

1341
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 4: the draft is so huge is that for if you

1342
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 4: don't get it right, then you lose your mind because

1343
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 4: it feels like the one thing you have to get right.

1344
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: But also nobody can really prove it one way or

1345
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 4: the other, so you don't have to. You know, you know,

1346
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 4: two weeks into the season, if your team sucks, like, okay,

1347
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 4: you're getting slapped in the face with it. At the

1348
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 4: end of the if somebody turns around and says, you

1349
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 4: guys had the worst draft, your answer to that as well.

1350
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 4: They said the same thing about the Lions. And it

1351
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 4: turns out that that Jamia Gibbs class was pretty dark good, right, Like,

1352
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 4: nobody can talk you off, like you you can believe

1353
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 4: whatever you want for the draft. You can like the

1354
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 4: fact that we make winners and losers out of the

1355
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 4: draft when there won't actually be a product on the

1356
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: field from it for months afterwards, Like we don't we

1357
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 4: don't know who the winners or losers will be for

1358
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 4: years out of the NFL Draft. But but people feel

1359
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 4: like by Monday afternoon they know exactly what, like we're

1360
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 4: going to the playoffs. Now look at this, like and

1361
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 4: it's just man, nobody can even if he tells you

1362
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 4: that you're an idiot, you don't have to you don't

1363
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 4: have to listen to it. You don't have to buy it.

1364
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 4: You can continue to pay no attention to the man

1365
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 4: behind the curtains. So like there's suspended disbelief to whatever

1366
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 4: you want to come out of the draft. So I

1367
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 4: just that's I think one of the biggest differences is,

1368
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 4: like it's a great party because every one of the

1369
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 4: thirty two fan bases is sitting there saying, oh, no, no, no,

1370
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 4: we just took the name extent, Like Eagles fans are

1371
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 4: going to be convinced that how he's nailed it again

1372
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 4: and that they're going back to back. Chiefs fans are

1373
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 4: going to be convinced that they've figured out how to

1374
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 4: get back to the mountaintop, and everybody else is going

1375
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 4: to be convinced that they've figured out how to catch

1376
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,600
Speaker 4: those two teams. Like it's the inevitability that happens at

1377
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 4: the end of April. It's it's it's cool to me.

1378
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 4: I love the fact that there's just that much hope

1379
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 4: and positivity around something that is factually wrong all the time. Like,

1380
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 4: you are so right that most teams are going to

1381
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 4: blow the draft, and most of the time it's a waste,

1382
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 4: it's a waste of time, it's a waste of your eyeballs,

1383
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 4: it's a waste of your concentration. But still we're all

1384
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 4: going to feel something about it.

1385
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: Well, and you know it's it's in general right, Like

1386
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 3: it goes back to just the sheer numbers.

1387
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: That who's going to make it and who's not going

1388
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: to make it?

1389
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 3: Right, there's only twenty percentage of kids that play college

1390
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 3: football are going to make it on and that plays

1391
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 3: out in the draft.

1392
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1393
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: You take all these kids and in your mind, as

1394
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 3: a consumer of the draft, you're going, oh, well, you know,

1395
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 3: my seventh round pick, my fifth round pick, he's gonna

1396
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: I love that kid.

1397
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: I like what he can do.

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01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 3: I mean, as much as you know, you and I've

1399
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: both probably fell prey to this, I've done it. I'm like,

1400
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 3: oh my, I love this kid's motor man. Oh, this

1401
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 3: kid's tall, he's six eight receiver. He's gonna be you

1402
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 3: know what, He's a secret weapon. And every once in

1403
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: a while you get Jordan Malatta who was a rugby

1404
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 3: star in Australia and he becomes an All World left tackle.

1405
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 4: Well, I think the answer after every round gets more

1406
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 4: and more. Mike could like, is that kid gonna work out?

1407
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 4: Mike could like we don't know, you know, and like

1408
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 4: where you're selected, you start talking about guys that are fifth, sixth,

1409
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 4: seventh round picks. I mean, it's just rolling the dice.

1410
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 4: He were just literally there's scratch off lottery tickets, no

1411
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 4: idea if any of them are going to be good,

1412
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 4: but we will obsess over every ounce of it, and

1413
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 4: then fans will scream if a guy gets cut, that's

1414
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 4: a fitth round draft pick. And it's like, man, we

1415
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 4: treat these draft picks like they are just known commodities

1416
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 4: in gold, when realistically most of them aren't even going

1417
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 4: to be in the NFL in three years. So it's

1418
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 4: it's it's the weirdest part of what we do, what

1419
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: we had to analyze this stuff, it is, it is.

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 3: It's the truth. I mean, I remember the Eagles. I

1421
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: was perplexed that the Eagles took Jalen Hurts when they

1422
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: had Carson Wentz as the as the franchise quarterback, Like

1423
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: why are you taking Jalen Hurts with a second round pick?

1424
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, it makes those sense, not when you

1425
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: have Wentz and you have all these haul the holes

1426
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 3: to fill. But look what happened. It turned out to

1427
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 3: be saved, to save the franchise because wetz Goes blows

1428
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 3: himself up and Hurts becomes an MVP.

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01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:03,480
Speaker 2: It's amazing story.

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01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: Where the Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargana right here, team

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Speaker 3: my team coming up Fox.

1432
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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1433
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Speaker 3: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy happy Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Saturday. Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargana, Where the Fellas every

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Speaker 3: me for still, you know, basking in the my Town's Championship.

1440
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 3: It was the parade yesterday, so it was still very

1441
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 3: fresh gridlock in Philadelphia and it was over.

1442
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: I mean we were close to too many people and

1443
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: it was.

1444
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 3: Just lined wall to wall, bigger than it was in

1445
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, and a lot of love. It was a

1446
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: real beautiful, beautiful day. I mean, you're always gonna when

1447
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 3: you have upwards to two million people, you're going to

1448
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 3: have a couple of kooks and a couple of people

1449
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 3: who do dumb things. But by large, it was uh

1450
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 3: it was it went off pretty smashingly. Uh, there're a

1451
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 3: lot of love. It was a it was a beautiful

1452
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 3: day in the city of Philadelphia celebrating the Eagles.

1453
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

1454
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 3: So many interesting storylines and plot lines when you have

1455
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: a championship, right, especially in the NFL, a Super Bowl,

1456
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: and it doesn't get more interesting than the coach and

1457
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 3: the quarterback. And I want to ask it, and then

1458
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 3: I want to start going and team by team and

1459
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna get We're gonna do our state of each

1460
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:01,480
Speaker 3: team entering the off season. But coach, quarterback Nick Sirianni

1461
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, the MVP of the Super Bowl. Still their

1462
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:12,959
Speaker 3: journey really interesting. One guy was about to be fired,

1463
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 3: right like people talked about his job on the line,

1464
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: FITZI and then the other guy.

1465
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: I still had someone say to me.

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01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 3: Yesterday, this is yesterday at the parade, Well, how many

1467
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 3: other quarterbacks could have won with that line and running

1468
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 3: back and receivers.

1469
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, who cares? Like the kids are winning back,

1470
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: Like who cares?

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01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 4: Why? Why minimize greatness? That's the thing, Like why do

1472
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 4: we feel the need to qualify? Why things aren't that

1473
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 4: good and this is just like an epidemic in society

1474
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 4: in general. It doesn't matter what anybody does. You could

1475
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 4: be the best in the world at anything. You could

1476
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 4: be the best musician in the world, and somebody is

1477
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 4: going to immediately be like, oh, yeah, I don't know,

1478
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 4: this is kind of overrate. You could be the best

1479
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 4: pilot in the history of the world and people will

1480
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 4: be like, I don't know. Like we as a society

1481
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 4: we just constantly want to find reason to tear down

1482
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 4: anyone that accomplishes anything as not being that great. To me, Like,

1483
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 4: if you've got a quarterback that's just turned around and

1484
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 4: played the game that Jalen Hurts played, there is no

1485
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 4: longer a time and place for a conversation about, you know,

1486
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 4: how good is he? Really? Like, doesn't matter the guy

1487
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 4: just won the Super.

1488
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 3: Bowl, like the guys like that's exactly the point, Vincy, Like,

1489
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 3: now you don't need to go is he a top

1490
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:39,440
Speaker 3: ten quarterback?

1491
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 4: Is he?

1492
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: This is he elite? What's elite? What's that?

1493
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 4: You know?

1494
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow? Is he Burrow?

1495
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 5: Is he?

1496
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: Ma Homes is he? You know? Justin Herbert?

1497
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 4: What is he?

1498
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 2: Lamar? I mean, it's it's just, you know, ridiculous, Like

1499
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: he's a winner, he shows, he wins. What more you want?

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01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 4: He's got a Super Bowl championship. So the only thing

1501
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 4: as fans that I think we should be constantly worried

1502
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 4: about is and worried the wrong world, but constantly thinking

1503
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 4: about is can this team, this player, this coach, can

1504
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 4: they win a championship? And I say all the time

1505
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 4: that what you're really hoping for is proximity. Are you

1506
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 4: in range? Because if you have proximity, you know, look,

1507
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 4: you can't necessarily do anything about choking a lead away

1508
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 4: with thirteen seconds left, But you can ask yourself, if

1509
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 4: you're putting yourself in this situation whereas a franchise, you're

1510
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 4: constantly in range of winning a championship, that's what your

1511
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 4: hope is to get to. And I mean, there's a

1512
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 4: very clear answer at this point to Ken Sirianni and

1513
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 4: Hurts get you in proximity to Super Bowls? There was

1514
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 4: already an answer to that, and the answer has only

1515
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 4: been reinforced. It's just there's literally nothing else in the

1516
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 4: world that we do that we immediately want to tear

1517
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 4: somebody down when they accomplish something like we do with sports,

1518
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 4: and this happens in every league. It's it's alarming to me,

1519
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 4: you know, this conversation of you know, no matter what

1520
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 4: Jochicz does, it'll be well, where is he on the

1521
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 4: Mount Rushmore? I don't care who cares where any of

1522
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 4: these guys are in the Mount Rushmore? Like, guess what's

1523
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 4: not going to change your tuesday? How somebody ranks Jalen Hurts.

1524
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 4: Guess what does change your tuesday? Go into a parade

1525
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 4: to watch a super Bowl champion because Jalen Hurts won one,

1526
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like I just the constant

1527
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 4: need to compare everybody to everything is just such bs

1528
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 4: to me that I don't it's irrelevant. Where Jalen Hurts

1529
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 4: ranks in the lexicon of great quarterbacks in the NFL

1530
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 4: is irrelevant. He's a super Bowl champion. That's all that's relevant.

1531
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 4: Like the is he better or worse than Joe Burrow?

1532
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 4: Who cares? Because guess what, he just won a super Bowl?

1533
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 4: Like that, that's all that matters at this point. You

1534
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 4: can win a super Bowl with Jalen Hurts. The rest

1535
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,600
Speaker 4: of the conversation is irrelevant.

1536
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 3: Well, and I think his journey is story is fascinating

1537
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 3: because all this ridiculous talk.

1538
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: Goes around him is going on around him, and.

1539
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 3: He consistently has said, and you know, he it's like

1540
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 3: my man Nick said, he deserves his flowers. He's consistently said, Look,

1541
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 3: I just all I care about is winning, Like this

1542
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 3: is just about winning. And there's no better winner, right

1543
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 3: like you know, and he's showing it time and time

1544
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 3: out with a slow of different offensive coordinators.

1545
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 2: He's going to do it again.

1546
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 3: He just wins. I think he's magic Johnson. He loves Jordan,

1547
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 3: but I think his game is magic Johnson, because Hey,

1548
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 3: if you need me to score you know, twenty five,

1549
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 3: I can do that, get the ball down the field.

1550
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: Or if you need me to score you know, fifteen

1551
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 3: and get twelve assists, I can do that. Use my

1552
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 3: legs right, spit the ball out where it needs to

1553
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 3: go through some Reid option like all that stuff. That

1554
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 3: to me, he plays quarterback like a point guard.

1555
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 4: I like that analogy a lot I do. And you know,

1556
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 4: I think there's a valuable lesson. We can look at

1557
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 4: our two champions in football this year, and certainly midway

1558
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,560
Speaker 4: through the season, plenty of people thought Ryan Day was

1559
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 4: going to be on the hot seat. Plenty of people

1560
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 4: thought Sirianni was going to be on the hot seat.

1561
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,879
Speaker 4: It's amazing. How more than ever, we have to remember

1562
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 4: that you will not be remembered or judged by how

1563
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 4: you played in the middle of a season. You will

1564
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 4: be remembered and judged for how you play at the

1565
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 4: end of the season. That you know, it's one of

1566
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 4: the impossibilities of the way that we cover sports that

1567
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 4: we have to rest to judgment on absolutely everything. And

1568
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 4: my god, like we've got living breathing proof from both

1569
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 4: football champions this year that some times you just got

1570
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: to stay the course with the people that you know

1571
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 4: are going to be able to get you there, and

1572
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 4: relax and let them run their entire process. And you

1573
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 4: know what we see for both Ohio State and now

1574
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 4: for Philadelphia that all the yelling and screaming two months

1575
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,560
Speaker 4: ago seems pretty dumb by a lot of people. And

1576
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think the smartest people and the people

1577
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 4: that we should be listening to the most are the

1578
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 4: people that are yelling and screaming. I just you mentioned

1579
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 4: you don't listen to or consume a lot of this

1580
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 4: ancillary stuff. And I do and I just would implore

1581
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,560
Speaker 4: somebody if you turn on a TV show in the

1582
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 4: middle of the season and the first thing you think

1583
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 4: is this is a stupid topic, then you're probably watching

1584
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 4: stupid TV. And we just got to stop, like we

1585
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 4: there's the conversation of trying to marginalize the greatness of

1586
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 4: anything that Philadelphia has accomplished. To me is just it's

1587
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 4: a byproduct of asinine TV that's worried more about whether

1588
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 4: somebody will longs on to Mount Rushmore or a top

1589
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 4: ten list, and that's just such a failed way of

1590
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 4: thinking of every ounce of the logic. It's it does

1591
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 4: not matter if Jalen Hurts is a top five quarterback

1592
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 4: in the NFL or if he isn't a top five

1593
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL. And if somebody wants to have

1594
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 4: the debate demand better like, it's just who cares? Who

1595
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 4: cares if we're making a power ranking of quarterbacks right

1596
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 4: now when you've got a super bowling.

1597
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 3: It's just that that to me, here's the problem, though,

1598
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: Let's let's be realistic here, right, because this is interesting

1599
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 3: that you said that, because I agree with you inherently, right,

1600
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: But people don't people want that People want. The reason

1601
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 3: why the hot take became wildly successful is because people

1602
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 3: like it. They like to argue this stuff, right, Like

1603
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 3: they like the They like the idea that someone says

1604
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 3: X y Z and then you either a agree with

1605
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 3: her or shoot.

1606
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 2: It down.

1607
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 3: Like that's people like. They don't they don't like. I mean,

1608
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 3: the masses, the masses don't like. I don't think what

1609
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 3: you and I like or I love that. I mean

1610
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 3: I love the chess match, right, I love that like

1611
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 3: like I love I spent a lot of time with Baldy, right,

1612
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 3: and we look a lot of film and I talked

1613
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 3: to Baldy a lot, and I love that stuff. But

1614
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 3: Baldi does it in an entertaining way. Too much of

1615
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 3: that stuff makes people's eye watch like they don't really,

1616
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 3: I don't think they care about it.

1617
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 4: I think you're right there has to be some line

1618
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 4: where And you're also right that people like easy debates, right,

1619
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 4: like you know, I I go back to my buddy

1620
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 4: Michael at Junior years ago, who was about to He

1621
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 4: was on radio at the time and didn't know what's

1622
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 4: what they were going to do next segment wise, and

1623
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 4: so he jokingly said into the Micael rom versus MJ

1624
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 4: who's actually the goat, And he said it as a joke,

1625
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 4: and the rest of the day that he was on radio,

1626
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 4: his phone lines were full. And you're a thousand percent right,

1627
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 4: you know, you do that for people, and people will

1628
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 4: gravitate towards it. But man, I also think that it

1629
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 4: becomes an epidemic in thinking if everything has to be

1630
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 4: about a list and about a ranking, when it's so

1631
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 4: subjective and arbitrary, like again, who are the top ten

1632
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,799
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the NFL? Okay, Well, that's a very arbitrary.

1633
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 4: You know, ten different people are going to come up

1634
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 4: with ten different lists. I think you know, at some point,

1635
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 4: even if the world likes, you know, cheap debate, I

1636
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 4: get that, at some point you still have to at

1637
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 4: least hold everybody to a very simple standard of like, hey,

1638
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 4: what are we talking about? Why are we talking about it?

1639
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 4: And if you're an Eagles fan at a parade saying, well,

1640
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 4: you know, Jalen Hurts over rated, a lot of quarterbacks

1641
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 4: could have won a Super Bowl behind that line like that,

1642
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:05,879
Speaker 4: that to me is just such a you're you're searching

1643
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 4: for a reason to tear down somebody's accomplishment and you know,

1644
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,879
Speaker 4: it's it's the Agel joke. As I sit here surrounded

1645
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 4: with you know, a bunch of platinum and gold records

1646
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 4: on my wall, it makes me laugh that we sit

1647
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 4: here as a society we have learned to trash every

1648
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 4: one hit Wonder that's ever. Oh man, what a joke,

1649
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 4: that one hit wonder. And it's like, you know what's

1650
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 4: you know what, what's worse than me to one hit wonder?

1651
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 4: Never having a hit? Like we treat all of society

1652
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 4: like one hit Wonder is something to be embarrassed about, Like.

1653
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 2: We Wow, that's a great point, man, that's a great point.

1654
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 4: I don't know why we have to sit here immediately

1655
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 4: after a player wins the super Bowl and then try

1656
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 4: and figure out where that puts their legacy or their

1657
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 4: ability to win another one, or is he really better

1658
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 4: than this guy? Or is he worse than this guy?

1659
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,560
Speaker 4: And it's like, I don't know, man, shouldn't there be

1660
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 4: at least some grace period of appreciation for like where

1661
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts ranks in the you know right now, in

1662
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 4: the power ranking of NFL quarterbacks. I don't know, he's

1663
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 4: he's among the better like that, And I know that's

1664
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 4: not great radio. People want like a definitive answer. It's like, well,

1665
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 4: don't be don't be wishy washy on it. It's like, Okay,

1666
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 4: who's the best is a very subjective thing. Who's a

1667
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 4: super Bowl champion isn't Like that's not subjective, Like you

1668
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 4: won a super Bowl with him, So build him up,

1669
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 4: don't tear him down.

1670
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean because ultimately people don't want rational Yeah.

1671
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 4: No, people don't want Mike could you know. It's like

1672
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 4: it could be, you know, and that's why how many

1673
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 4: years have we said that you put it? Put it?

1674
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 4: Make it like vodka? I mean, you you never walk

1675
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 4: into a bar and never you rarely walk into a

1676
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 4: bar and get into a raging debate with somebody over

1677
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 4: what's the best vodka you You'll go in and you'll

1678
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 4: be like, just give me whatever you got. That's you know,

1679
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 4: if you're into if you're into top shelf, then you're

1680
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 4: gonna go in and you're gonna order top shelf. You're

1681
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 4: gonna be boogie and fancy like that. You're gonna get

1682
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 4: your top shelf. Just whatever you got that's in the

1683
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 4: range of you know, And it's same with whiskey, Like

1684
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 4: you have your personal preferences, but y'all you understand which

1685
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 4: ones belong on the same shelf. I think that's the

1686
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 4: way we should look at football players, like who belongs

1687
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 4: on a championship caliber shelf? Well, the.

1688
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 2: That's very good.

1689
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 4: I mean point, Jalen Hurts belongs on a championship caliber shelf.

1690
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 4: You know that he can get you to a super Bowl.

1691
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 4: You know he can play in a super Bowl. You

1692
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 4: know he's gonna be money in a super Bowl. Like, Okay,

1693
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 4: I'll played Mahomes in both of them. Like, there are

1694
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 4: no questions left to be answered about Jalen Hurts. He's

1695
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl champion? Is he the best quarterback in

1696
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 4: the NFL right now? Don't care. That's just that's my

1697
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 4: honest answer that I don't care.

1698
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel you around the league coming up.

1699
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 3: Uh, we're gonna do that each of It's where they're

1700
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 3: at going into the off season.

1701
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,880
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1702
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,680
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1703
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1704
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1705
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:19,040
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1706
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:26,440
Speaker 3: Welcome back, Fellas from the tire Rack dot com. Studios,

1707
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 3: Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano. All right, so let's take a,

1708
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 3: you know, a look around the league going into the

1709
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 3: off season, where each team is, and just you know,

1710
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 3: a couple of sentences is just to kind of figure out,

1711
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, what to expect as the off season commences

1712
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 3: and combine about the Combine is in a couple of weeks.

1713
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's right here, and then the Draft.

1714
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny how it sneaks it sneaks on you,

1715
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 3: sneaks up on you.

1716
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 2: I gotta leave that.

1717
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 4: This new.

1718
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 3: I guess in two years is when they'll add the

1719
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 3: next game, the eighteenth game, when the cnba's up.

1720
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 4: I would think that's when they're gonna do it. I

1721
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 4: saw somebody posts yesterday that the Super Bowl falls on

1722
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day in twenty twenty six, so you know that

1723
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 4: that we've got that to look forward to. I don't

1724
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 4: think it'll be so it'll be after that that everything

1725
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,440
Speaker 4: will be even further delayed.

1726
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 3: Right, which everybody wants anyway, because it's going to be

1727
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 3: it'll it'll it'll be President's Day weekend, right, So there's

1728
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 3: nothing better than being off on Monday after the Super Bowl,

1729
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 3: like it never you've pushed it this far.

1730
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 2: Why not just do it? Right, Like, why not just

1731
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 2: go and do it? It's perfect.

1732
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, although I still would be a proponent of Super

1733
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 4: Bowl Saturday if we wanted, you know, but yes, I

1734
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 4: hear you, Like, if we're gonna have President's Day, that

1735
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 4: solves the whole problem that we do need a day

1736
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 4: to recover. Like, the concept of a national holiday around

1737
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 4: the super Bowl is a bit weird to me. Like

1738
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 4: I think of national holidays as having you know, tremendous

1739
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 4: gravitas and importance to you know, to America, Like the

1740
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 4: fourth of July is significant for our country. You know.

1741
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 4: It's just the concept of a holiday around the super

1742
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 4: Bowl feels like we're giving a little bit too much

1743
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 4: weight to a sport. But I'm all in for President's

1744
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 4: Day being the weekend in the super Bowl. That seems

1745
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 4: like a fair compromise.

1746
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's factually perfect, you know, it's perfect for it.

1747
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 3: All right, So let's go AFC first. We'll start in

1748
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,799
Speaker 3: the West, and we'll start with the Chiefs. So clearly

1749
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,719
Speaker 3: you and I said this to the start to show

1750
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 3: they're not going anywhere. It's not like they're gonna be

1751
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 3: They're done. Patrick Holmes is twenty nine years old, got

1752
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 3: plenty of football left, even if Travis Kelcey does not.

1753
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 3: They have to figure out what to do with a

1754
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 3: four to five. The four to five they're o line.

1755
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 3: Look defensively, I voted Bags's game plan was kind of

1756
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:24,839
Speaker 3: what you do. But you know, when your offense isn't

1757
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 3: getting anything, it's hard to get off the field.

1758
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:32,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is Do they have areas of concern?

1759
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 4: Yes they do. Are they still a Super Bowl favorite

1760
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 4: next year? Yes they are. Like, let's not get it twisted.

1761
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 4: This was a weak Chiefs team that still won fifteen games.

1762
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 4: So I don't see any reason that the Chiefs won't

1763
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 4: still win, you know, thirteen, fourteen to fifteen games, because

1764
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 4: that's part of who they are. I don't want to

1765
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 4: let the way the Super Bowl turned out suddenly changed

1766
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 4: the narrative of what the team was the entire Maybe

1767
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 4: they were lucky, but my god, I don't know until

1768
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 4: I see them unlucky for any prolonged amount of time.

1769
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna believe that they continue to run it back.

1770
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 4: So the Chiefs are gonna be just fine.

1771
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 2: All right.

1772
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 3: Now, this is a really good division potentially could be

1773
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 3: a really really good division because you got the Chargers,

1774
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 3: who I saw were thirty three to one to win

1775
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 3: it all. And I think that's live man Harball second year.

1776
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 3: He fixed Herbert and he fixed the offense. Wait till

1777
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 3: he get some skill people in there. I like the Chargers.

1778
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 4: Chargers have the fifth most cap space going into this year.

1779
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 4: It also happens to be a wildly deep draft at

1780
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 4: three different positions offensive line, defensive line, and running back.

1781
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 4: They're just star running backs all over the place.

1782
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 2: On this one.

1783
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 4: I would not be surprised at all to see the

1784
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 4: Chargers go out and get themselves, you know, some bell

1785
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 4: cow opportunity. They're gonna run the football, They're gonna be

1786
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 4: big and physical, They're gonna do these things. Chargers take

1787
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 4: a big step forward. Yeah, there's no reason to think

1788
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 4: that they aren't going to be a deep playoff contending

1789
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 4: super Bowl caliber type. You know, they'll be in that

1790
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 4: proximity in the AFC.

1791
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,600
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I'm with you.

1792
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 3: Another team that I thought was a blast to watch,

1793
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 3: also with a young quarterback, Bo Nicks and the Broncos.

1794
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 3: I think the Broncos already uptick too.

1795
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's because bo is ahead of schedule.

1796
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 4: They still need a bunch of playmakers, I think, you know, yeah.

1797
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 3: But they need help on defense. I mean, Peyton's got

1798
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 3: to get to some of the help on defense. But

1799
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, he's a great coach and he's gonna You know,

1800
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 3: that team took a big leap last year I thought.

1801
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 4: And they're they're ahead of where I thought they would be.

1802
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean the Broncos should be competing for

1803
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 4: a playoff spot next year. They're in a really good position.

1804
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 2: All right. I'll leave this one to you, Pete Carroll.

1805
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 4: I think, look, the people I've talked to continue to

1806
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 4: echo that the Raiders are doing a ton of homework

1807
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 4: on veteran quarterbacks. I think they're gonna make a strong

1808
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 4: push to try and sign Sam Donald. I think that

1809
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 4: is gonna be their their offseason quarterback move. And then

1810
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 4: they go best player available at six in the draft.

1811
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 4: So this is my sneaky prediction. I believe they're gonna

1812
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 4: they're gonna sign Sam Donald. I feel like that's where

1813
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 4: they're gonna try and go. They got the second most

1814
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 4: cap space with the sixth overall pick in the draft.

1815
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 4: I think the Raiders might take Ashton Genty and put

1816
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 4: themselves in a situation where with Pete Carroll are doing

1817
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,560
Speaker 4: exactly what I just mentioned, Like they're handing off to

1818
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 4: Ashton Genty combined with brock Bauers a ton of money

1819
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 4: to spend. I think the Raiders, you know, best case scenario,

1820
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 4: there's six or seven win team next year, but they're

1821
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 4: a hell of a lot more respectful, so respected, I

1822
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 4: think I think they'll take some good strides for it.

1823
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 4: I don't think they're a playoff team by any stretch,

1824
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 4: like again home run off season, They're years away from that.

1825
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 4: But I think that they have a chance to at

1826
01:40:59,080 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 4: least be respectable.

1827
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I like the idea of Gent going

1828
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,719
Speaker 2: to the Raiders. Do you like Donald?

1829
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 4: I don't like cam Or Shadour, So I think if

1830
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 4: they're doing Donald on a four year deal where the

1831
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 4: first two years of it are guaranteed, I think it

1832
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 4: actually makes a lot of sense. Like I don't love

1833
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 4: Sam Donald. But the other part of it to me

1834
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 4: is I trust Pete Carroll. So you know, Pete Carroll

1835
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 4: found Russ, and Pete Carroll knew that Gina wasn't washed,

1836
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 4: So you know if he takes him, I trust him.

1837
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 4: Chip Kelly's offense with Sam Donald, I don't know. I

1838
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 4: don't love any of that. I don't love any of

1839
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 4: the quarterback answers, but I just I don't think. I

1840
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 4: think the two quarterbacks that everybody's obsessed with her are

1841
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 4: gonna end up falling a little bit more than most

1842
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 4: people think.

1843
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, I can see that. I can totally see

1844
01:41:53,520 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 3: that all right to the south. So let's look at

1845
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 3: the Texans slow of injuries. I know CJ took a

1846
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 3: step back from his amazing rookie year, but I think

1847
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 3: he comes back and.

1848
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 2: Another one.

1849
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 3: They need just need to fortify their offensive line, and

1850
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 3: they dealt with a bunch of injuries.

1851
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 2: They had great receivers and they were all hurt.

1852
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're also going to be working in a

1853
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 4: new offensive coordinator. I think that's interesting. But yeah, this

1854
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 4: team just needs to get healthy and get them healthy

1855
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 4: and then see what they can be. So I think

1856
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 4: CJ is still CJ. And this guy is not falling

1857
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 4: to me on CJ strout at all. So yeah, I

1858
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 4: still like the Texans, especially in a really easy to

1859
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 4: win division like the Titans. Suck the Jags suck like

1860
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 4: these the Colts don't have a quarterback, they suck. So yeah,

1861
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 4: I think it's an easily winnable division for a team

1862
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 4: that just needs to get healthy.

1863
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 2: Well you mentioned it.

1864
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 3: I mean JAG's new code and it's all gonna be

1865
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 3: about Trevor Lawrence. Can Trevor Lawrence be fixed?

1866
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 4: And I think it's hysterical, Like there were rumors this

1867
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 4: week that the Steelers made phone calls to acquire to

1868
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 4: inquire about the availability of Trevor Lawrence. This shows you

1869
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 4: how stupid the world is sometimes. Who's the GM of

1870
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 4: the Jags right now that would even take that phone call?

1871
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 4: Like they don't have a GM, they're still interviewing GM.

1872
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 4: So it just shows you, like the rumor mill always spins,

1873
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 4: and so often this stuff is just wildly inaccurate, Like

1874
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 4: do we believe Liam Cohen is over here taking calls

1875
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 4: on Trevor Lawrence? There's absolutely nothing shot con that the

1876
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,759
Speaker 4: owner of the team is out on his you know, yacht.

1877
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 4: So to me, the Jags are a joke. They still

1878
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,600
Speaker 4: don't even know what they're doing as an organization, and

1879
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 4: there's no reason to believe anything we hear that has

1880
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 4: anything to do with the Jags right now?

1881
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And then you got a couple, you know,

1882
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:03,440
Speaker 3: teams with quandaries at quarterback at what kind of directional

1883
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 3: Tennessee in Indianapolis.

1884
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 4: Indianapolis needs to go get a starter to compete with

1885
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson. I don't. I don't think there's any question

1886
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 4: about that. But they're also on the hot seat right now.

1887
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 4: I think a stike and everybody there has got to

1888
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 4: prove something.

1889
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 3: So I don't know how you do that without the

1890
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 3: quarterback because right again, again, I don't know that that

1891
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson.

1892
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 2: You know, they tried to turn it over to him

1893
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 2: and he couldn't handle it.

1894
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 4: Which is why, like I just want everybody to remember that, Like, look,

1895
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 4: these guys are all different, but I don't think cam

1896
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 4: Or should do her either. One is going to turn

1897
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 4: out to be more successful than even Anthony Richardson. So

1898
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 4: you know, it is funny that as desperate as teams

1899
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 4: get to, oh, we got a draft quarterback, Well, if

1900
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 4: you draft wrong, man, everybody's getting fired. So I'm with you.

1901
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 4: I don't think there's an easy answer. You want to

1902
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 4: talk about the type of spot that you know might

1903
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 4: look at a Daniel Jones and hope that you can

1904
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 4: get something out of them. I don't know, I just

1905
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 4: that that feels and then the Titans. Look I honestly,

1906
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 4: I genuinely believe that Aaron Rodgers to the Titans makes

1907
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 4: a lot of sense, Like he can go somewhere where

1908
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 4: when he's running off of the mouth. Nobody's gonna pay

1909
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 4: attention to it. The Titans are, I mean, unfortunately for

1910
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 4: Titans fans, the league just doesn't pay attention to the Titans.

1911
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 4: Like they have the first pick in the draft, and

1912
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 4: nobody's sitting here clamoring saying, oh my god, what are

1913
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 4: the Titans gonna do? Like it's just I know, it's weird,

1914
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 4: isn't it. They're invisible as a franchise they have.

1915
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 3: They really are the invisible franchise. That's it's a great

1916
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 3: way to to capitalize them. You're you're right on.

1917
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,799
Speaker 4: Can't tell me that the league didn't wish the Browns

1918
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 4: at the first overall pick, because it's just people don't genuinely,

1919
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,799
Speaker 4: the Titans don't move the needle. So if Aaron Rodgers

1920
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 4: goes there and he's on McAfee every week, people in

1921
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 4: Nashville won't care, The Titans won't care, the general media

1922
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 4: won't care. You know, I think Aaron can go just

1923
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 4: be weird and it's not even a distraction. And I

1924
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 4: just I don't believe camera schador is the answer. So

1925
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 4: I don't believe will Levis is either. But if I'm Titans,

1926
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 4: the Titans, I want to try and I want to

1927
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 4: punt on making a quarterback decision this year, and I'd

1928
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 4: rather go best player available. Well, whether you believe that's

1929
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 4: a dual Carter or Travis Hunter, I would go best

1930
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:25,799
Speaker 4: player available.

1931
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with Carter's going to be a beast.

1932
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 2: He's going to be a monster. All right, Let's go

1933
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 2: to the to the East and you're the Bills and

1934
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 2: you're back at it. Ye're you know, once again, take

1935
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 2: that all season Grinn and Barrett Man, let's go back

1936
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 2: at it.

1937
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 4: Those gotta get some I mean, I do believe they've

1938
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 4: got to get some help for Josh Allen I and

1939
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 4: Bills fans. Bills fans continually yell at me and say no, no, no,

1940
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 4: it's all about the defensive side of the ball, and

1941
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 4: they blah blah blah. I just man, it's watching late

1942
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 4: in the season and just thinking, God, he could use

1943
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 4: some help with somebody that is just a surefire, and

1944
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 4: that's what they're trying to get with Amari Cooper. But

1945
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 4: like the third and six, who should go to guy

1946
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 4: like I just I would love to see them get

1947
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 4: a true different Like They'd have to do a lot

1948
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:32,479
Speaker 4: of work financially to make it happen, but I would

1949
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 4: love to see somebody like t Higgins in Buffalo. I

1950
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 4: just a true go to number one guy that can

1951
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 4: take over. We need a tough catch it. And I

1952
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 4: know they've got defensive needs too, but man, I would

1953
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 4: just I would love to see, well they do.

1954
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 3: I mean ultimately, and you're right, like ultimately Josh Allen

1955
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 3: can't play Superman forever. But and the other thing too

1956
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 3: is you know that game was one if they could

1957
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 3: just get stops mh right, you know like once again,

1958
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 3: if they just get one key stop, they win the game.

1959
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they need they need. Yeah, there's got to be

1960
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 4: a disruptor to take Like to go back to what

1961
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 4: we said earlier, how do you beat mahomes? Like, where's

1962
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 4: your Jaalen Carter? They got like they've got some guys

1963
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 4: you know that certainly have have shown flashes, but they've

1964
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 4: they've got to find more help.

1965
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 2: Uh, then you got the Jets suck.

1966
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 4: I mean the Jets. The Jets are punting on Aaron

1967
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 4: Rodgers and they have no idea who their quarterback is

1968
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 4: going to be. Like, if I'm the Jets, I go

1969
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 4: into full rebuild mode at this point.

1970
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1971
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but mind you, you're right to punt Aaron Rodgers.

1972
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not a good marriage. He's got to

1973
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 3: get out of New York just exactly for what you

1974
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 3: said about him being in Tennessee works perfectly.

1975
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and he needs you know, he does

1976
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 2: need to go somewhere else. Can you can't end it

1977
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 2: on that note that was that? Would you know? That

1978
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 2: would be a shame for him, right for the legacy.

1979
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 4: Keep an eye on Quinn Williams too, because, like I mean,

1980
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,879
Speaker 4: he went to Twitter to I guess it's another rebuild

1981
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 4: for me, you know, And we just got to remember

1982
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 4: that there's some defensive linemen out there that are are

1983
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 4: not going to hold their tongues about where things are going. So,

1984
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 4: you know, I just it's an interesting at least moment

1985
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 4: to look around and say, Okay, Jets, Jets, players are

1986
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,600
Speaker 4: going to have to accept another rebuild, and not all

1987
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 4: of them are going to be excited about that. Yeah, Patriots,

1988
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 4: it's one of the worst rosters in the NFL.

1989
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 2: Right, I mean you like the coach, right, love the coach,

1990
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 2: Love the coach, and now you gotta go get a

1991
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 2: roster that you know, this is the roll your sleep

1992
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 2: up that Yeah, awful. God, look at the skilled guys

1993
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 2: on that squad.

1994
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 4: And this is where I continued like, look, they've got

1995
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 4: the most money to spend and it's not even close.

1996
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 4: They have the most available salary cap space over the cap.

1997
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 4: Dot Com right now has them at almost one hundred

1998
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 4: and twenty million dollars of available cap space. So I

1999
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 4: hear you, Patriots fans. I will just go back to

2000
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 4: what I said earlier. And I've been consistent on this

2001
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 4: with every team I've ever talked about. If you need ten, eleven,

2002
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,719
Speaker 4: twelve new starters, that is a two or three year process.

2003
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 4: And so, you know, talking even to Teddy Bruski a

2004
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 4: little bit at the Super Bowl and I kept asking

2005
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 4: him what he thought best case scenario was, and he said, Hey,

2006
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 4: you know, best case scenario is this team takes a

2007
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 4: leap up to six seven, eight wins and is closer

2008
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 4: in a year to get where they need to be.

2009
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 4: And I just think Patriots fans don't want to hear patients.

2010
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 4: But I think New England needs two or three off

2011
01:50:57,479 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 4: seasons to truly rebuild the roster. And that's that's just

2012
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 4: that's best case scenario, two or three perfect off seasons

2013
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 4: and then maybe they're back into competing.

2014
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 2: Maybe. And Andy got the weirdest situation, which is Miami.

2015
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 4: Are the Dolphins good or the Dolphins knock? I don't

2016
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 4: know the Dolphins.

2017
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 3: I try to figure about that because there's aspects of

2018
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 3: the Dolphins I really like that can be dynamic.

2019
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 2: But I guess it comes down to the quarterback.

2020
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 3: Man, how do you feel about the quarterback who gets

2021
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 3: hurt and the concussions and everything else. And I, you know,

2022
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm you know, it's a shame because he's the you know,

2023
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 3: tough kid and been through a lot. You know, two

2024
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 3: has really really been through a ton. But he's not

2025
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts in that sense.

2026
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:55,560
Speaker 4: Right yeah, And Miami's now they're going to have to

2027
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 4: figure out a lot of contracts to just wiggle around

2028
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:01,679
Speaker 4: some of this money. And right now, they're five million

2029
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 4: over the cap. There. I know that's funny money that

2030
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,640
Speaker 4: could be worked out, but it does impact some of

2031
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, where you're gonna build and how you're gonna build.

2032
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 4: So I man, it's like the Dolphins. I don't want

2033
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 4: to say their their window shut, but it certainly doesn't

2034
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 4: feel like it's opened the way I thought it would be.

2035
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's the Dolphins feel like sort of a

2036
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 4: mid football team with the with the quarterback that I'm

2037
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 4: not sure they can totally trust to stay healthy for

2038
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 4: obvious reasons. And you know, a roster that is good

2039
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 4: not great, with the coach that seems like maybe he's

2040
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 4: in the category of good not great. Also, it's it's

2041
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,639
Speaker 4: interesting how the narrative has shifted so hard on Miami.

2042
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll come back.

2043
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:47,719
Speaker 3: We'll do the North which is fascinating NFC next hour,

2044
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 3: and then we'll also take a look at some of

2045
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 3: the college slate, well college hoop action where the fellas

2046
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 3: hanging out right here?

2047
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, who's the man it fits? Go? Buddy?

2048
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 4: Can I blow your mind?

2049
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 2: Please?

2050
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 4: Did you see this yesterday that they have identified Jack

2051
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 4: the Ripper. Now, this is a true story, this is

2052
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 4: a true story after one hundred and thirty seven years.

2053
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 4: There was a scarf from one of the victims that

2054
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 4: was auctioned off a few years ago, and the person

2055
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 4: that bought the scarf in the auction was like a

2056
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 4: historian that's written novels on Jack the Ripper, And they

2057
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 4: immediately started doing DNA to lift from the old bloodstains

2058
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 4: of this scarf that was from an eighteen eighty eight

2059
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 4: murder scene. That's an actual real number, eighteen eighty eight,

2060
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 4: and the great great grand niece of Aaron Kazminski, who

2061
01:53:55,600 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 4: had apparently been also ad a long time suspect, had

2062
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 4: submitted DNA and a one hundred percent DNA match from

2063
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 4: the shawl founded Catherine Edo's eighteen eighty eight murder scene

2064
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 4: confirms that Aaron Kazminski was Jack the Ripper. How about

2065
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 4: that thirty seven years later DNA matches and we now

2066
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 4: know who Jack the Ripper was, Like I don't know,

2067
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 4: Like it's yeah, And and not only this, but like

2068
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 4: Aaron the Ripper was a barber, so very barber of Seville,

2069
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 4: very like Sweeney Todd of all of this, but there

2070
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:33,520
Speaker 4: you go. It turns out that he was a he

2071
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 4: was a barber and we now know.

2072
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: Jack the Ripper.

2073
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 1: How crazy is that?

2074
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 2: That is wild? That's a wild story.

2075
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 4: It's just you know, in the modern world, kids, you'll

2076
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 4: never get away with anything. You know, they'll get your

2077
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 4: DNA one hundred and thirty years later. So just don't

2078
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 4: commit any crimes people, that's the that's a valuable lesson here.

2079
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 4: Don't commit crimes.

2080
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 2: That's a that's a great that's a great story.

2081
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 4: Jack the Ripper found him.

2082
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 2: Now you got me Google on it.

2083
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went down. I wasn't sure if it was

2084
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 4: real at first, like because you can't trust anything anymore.

2085
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 4: But a shout out to a news Nation who I've

2086
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 4: gone to really enjoy News Nation in general. I've appeared

2087
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 4: on there several times just talking football over the course

2088
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 4: of the season, and News Nation put a story.

2089
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Up on it.

2090
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 4: I trust that. So that let me down the rabbit

2091
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 4: hole of verified people. And then yes, it turns out

2092
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 4: that this is real. The DNA is confirmed.

2093
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 2: That's wild. Man. Aaron Kazminski feels like a Jack the

2094
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 2: Ripper name. Yes.

2095
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 3: Yes, he's a Polish immigrant who worked as a barber

2096
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 3: upon moving to London. He was twenty three years old

2097
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 3: when he went on a killing spree and was actually

2098
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 3: a suspect at one point. Durning investigation, he died in

2099
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 3: a mental institute in nineteen nineteen.

2100
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 4: Huh, it's a crazy to think all of that came

2101
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 4: from a one hundred and seven thirty seven year old

2102
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 4: shawl that still had blood DNA on it. Like an

2103
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 4: interesting nugget that when these original crimes happened, fingerprinting wasn't

2104
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 4: even yet being used as an effective way of identifying

2105
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 4: a suspect. So just think about like murder back in

2106
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 4: eighteen eighty eight, they couldn't fingerprint. They're like, how'd you

2107
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,839
Speaker 4: find anybody? I don't know how you how you actually

2108
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:39,839
Speaker 4: caught a kid crimes?

2109
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2110
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 4: Like what did you do to solve a crime when

2111
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 4: you had no no fingerprints, no DNA, no anything. You know.

2112
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 4: It's a it's it's funny and as a Law and

2113
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 4: Order fanatic, like I'm the first to admit law the

2114
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 4: original Law and Order missed me with the rest of them,

2115
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 4: but the original Law and Order I can watch all

2116
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 4: day every day, and it's funny just watching some of

2117
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 4: the episodes from the ninety's and seeing how different even now,

2118
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 4: the process of solving crime is you know what I mean,

2119
01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 4: It's like, it's just the concept of all right, guys,

2120
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 4: just take a quick to and a swab and we'll

2121
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 4: know who did it, whether whether or not this person.

2122
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 4: But you got to go back and realize that at

2123
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 4: that period that wasn't part of the part of the

2124
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 4: lexicon for how these things were solved.

2125
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 3: So there you go, Wow, that's wild, that's wild. Who

2126
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 3: in the uh did Johnny Depp movie The Ripper was

2127
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 3: a medical? Was a doctor?

2128
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 4: Hmmm?

2129
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 3: Which would which you know you would probably assume right,

2130
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 3: like that would be the the Barbers. Is that that's fat? Like,

2131
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 3: that's pretty good, Sweeney Todd, You're right, that's pretty good.

2132
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 4: I feel like this is somebody now is doing a

2133
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 4: complete rewrite of Sweeney Todd making it the Jack the

2134
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 4: Ripper Musical, and they're gonna make a ton of money off.

2135
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 2: Of it, right, I know. Well, now now we enter.

2136
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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I I now reconnect

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Speaker 3: with movies and television like this is when you know,

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01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 3: when it comes to series and movies, this is when

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Speaker 3: I'll watch the lion's share of them.

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01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 2: Between now and the tournament. I'm big on that this

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01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 2: is the.

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Speaker 4: Only time to get to do that because you know, frankly,

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Speaker 4: when you're up in New England, once you get to summer,

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01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 4: you don't want to be sitting inside binge watching TV

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01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 4: like it's this is the nice time of year, you know,

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01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 4: so yeah, you got to do it now. While it's

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01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 4: like it's why I actually kind of enjoy winter because

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01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 4: it forces you to slow down and just you know,

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01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:40,760
Speaker 4: watch a little TV, just relax a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, toasty and warm. You're right, all right, Uh, we'll

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Speaker 3: get back to the NFL. I want to continue going

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01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 3: through all the teams kind of the state of where

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01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 3: they're at, and we've got to do The North is

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01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 3: fascinating because of each of those teams are contenders.

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Speaker 3: of unpacking this super Bowl and then looking forward to

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Speaker 3: the off season, going team by team into the off

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Speaker 3: season of kind of where we're at.

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Speaker 2: I was talking about the parade early on.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I do know that outside of Philadelphia, nobody

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Speaker 3: cares about the parade. The one thing people don't like

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Speaker 3: in sports sports fans is watching one city celebrate.

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Speaker 2: It's the ultimate fomo.

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Speaker 4: Which to me, man, I don't know. I feel like

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Speaker 4: you're just sitting back and watching a fan base that

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Speaker 4: loves it passionately go for it. Like I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I think it's kind of an amazing thing. I'm a

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Speaker 4: big fan of parades. I'm a big fan of joy

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Super Bowl championships being celebrated. Man, Like,

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Speaker 4: I hope you have spent an uncomfortable amount of money

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Speaker 4: in the last week on Super Bowl things I do. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like every one of those.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my wife, we all watch, you know, we

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02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 2: watched the right after the Super Bowl. She was on

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Speaker 2: the line ordered all the gear for the kids and everybody.

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Speaker 2: So yep.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's just part of the wait to want

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02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 4: the fight like it's takes. So it's such a special

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Speaker 4: moment to get the opportunity to win a Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: that I just I feel like these there's no such

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Speaker 4: thing as act like you've been here before if you're

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Speaker 4: a fan, like act like you're never going to get

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Speaker 4: here again. It's just soaking every stink and second of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: love every ounce of it because it just feels like

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Speaker 4: it's such an important like these are the victories that

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Speaker 4: you have to celebrate to make all of the years

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Speaker 4: to despair worth it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: And my wildest imagination, I would not have figured the

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02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 3: Eagles to be in three super Bowls in nine years,

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Speaker 3: let alone win two of Yeah, in eight years, I

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Speaker 3: mean I still stop.

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Speaker 2: It's stunning.

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Speaker 3: You go, they go to super Bowl fifty two without

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Speaker 3: winning one, then they're in three and win two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's to be in this era. You have to

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Speaker 4: appreciate it even more though, right, like just knowing how

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Speaker 4: hard and how long it took to get here. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think it's fair that their kids in Philly that

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02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:26,880
Speaker 4: are going to have no idea what fifty years of

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Speaker 4: suffering feels like. Thank god, you know, like that's that's great.

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Speaker 4: But for you, it just has to hit different knowing

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Speaker 4: that you waited so long, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know, it's pretty cool. All right.

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Speaker 3: Let's continue our foray around the league right as we

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Speaker 3: begin the off season. A lot of teams have question

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Speaker 3: marks what they are, you know, kind of take a

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Speaker 3: snapshot of where these teams are at. So we've done

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Speaker 3: three of the four divisions in the AFC. Let's go

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Speaker 3: to the North, which is a great division. Man, it

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Speaker 3: really is. Ravens still king in your eyes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. And you know, I think the Ravens

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02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:16,840
Speaker 4: certainly had their opportunity this year. It didn't come together

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Speaker 4: the way they wanted it to. But the Ravens are

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Speaker 4: not a team that has to suddenly make wild wholesale

2229
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Speaker 4: changes to everything that their defense too committed to get together.

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Speaker 4: Once it did, I think it was a much different

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Speaker 4: level the Ravens going to be just fine.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be.

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Speaker 4: They are in proximity, they will remain in proximity. They

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Speaker 4: got There's nothing I'm concerned about on their ability to

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Speaker 4: compete for a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we always talk about there.

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Speaker 3: I think their front, could you use a little little something,

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Speaker 3: you know, get back to their defense, Like their defense

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02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:56,000
Speaker 3: was not raven, Like their offense is great, they can

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Speaker 3: you know, probably use another receiver you got you know,

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Speaker 3: remember they were all banged up at the end. Zay

2242
02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 3: Flowers was heard at the end. There was a big deal. Uh.

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02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 3: Then you got Cincinnati, a team that had they have

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02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:16,839
Speaker 3: gotten in you wonder about because they're so dangerous. Burrows

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02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 3: so good, that offense is dynamic, but again, can you

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Speaker 3: protect him and can you play defense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I just think that the Bengals absolute waste of

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02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:36,480
Speaker 4: another great year a Burrow is disgusting. And you know

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02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 4: the fact that it took them so long to make

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Speaker 4: a change a defensive coordinator is something that I will

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02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:43,840
Speaker 4: never be able to make sense of. But if you

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Speaker 4: are the Bengals, it's very clear, like what you have

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Speaker 4: to do, you know what the opportunities out there, like

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02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:54,320
Speaker 4: you you truly have one of the one of the

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Speaker 4: best quarterbacks in the NFL. We know that, so now

2256
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Speaker 4: can you make the most of it? And I look,

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Speaker 4: I see them build a quality defense. I'm not going

2258
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 4: to believe in their quality of the quality of their defense,

2259
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:07,200
Speaker 4: but that's the only thing they got to figure out,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Pittsburgh, no quarterback. They're not have a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna have a quarterback. Like they're still not

2263
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:21,120
Speaker 4: gonna have a quarterback this year. The quarterback answer is

2264
02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 4: not does not exist. So you know, if I'm.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, would would you do Rogers there? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: At this point, Look, Aaron Rodgers played better in the

2267
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 4: last five six weeks of the season than he had.

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Speaker 4: He's a little bit further removed from the Achilles injury.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you think he's got a little bit left in

2270
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Speaker 4: his tank. You know, you're bringing him to a coach

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02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 4: that can handle the distraction of him. So yes, I

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Speaker 4: would have no problem with Aaron Rodgers there. But if

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Speaker 4: I'm if I'm the Steelers, I just have to acknowledge

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Speaker 4: that I need a quarterback and there isn't one there

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Speaker 4: for me to have. So I don't know I'd feel

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Speaker 4: better about Aaron Rodgers than I would the rest of

2277
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:07,160
Speaker 4: my alternatives. Like, somewhere in this process, Daniel Jones is

2278
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 4: going to start. I believe Daniel is going to get

2279
02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:12,560
Speaker 4: a shot. And so I keep looking at Daniel Jones

2280
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,080
Speaker 4: and saying, Okay, do they believe they can milk a

2281
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 4: little bit out of Daniel Jones? I like, do they

2282
02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 4: believe that they can, you know, milk something out of

2283
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 4: you know, Jameis I don't think so. So you know, so, yeah,

2284
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,560
Speaker 4: you're you're basically looking at the best of a bad lot.

2285
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Speaker 3: And then you know, ten miles Hunt, ten miles away

2286
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:36,720
Speaker 3: is Cleveland, right, and you got the.

2287
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 2: More issues there.

2288
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to have the same quarterback issues because

2289
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 3: I love Kevin Stevanska.

2290
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 2: I think he's a terrific coach.

2291
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 3: Again, they had one major issue that set them back,

2292
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:52,879
Speaker 3: and that was the Shawn Watson.

2293
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's just no getting out of it. I think,

2294
02:06:57,320 --> 02:07:01,040
Speaker 4: to me, the hardest part about this is that clearly

2295
02:07:01,120 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 4: you need a solution, and the solution is at some

2296
02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:07,760
Speaker 4: level to get a different quarterback. But how do you

2297
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,240
Speaker 4: do that? So, you know, I think they're just kind

2298
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 4: of they're stuck there. They're stuck still and there's no

2299
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 4: easy answer to it.

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Speaker 3: Now, Now, all right to the n f C. Let's

2301
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Speaker 3: start out west, Niners. I mean, you know, you got

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Speaker 3: the McCaffrey issue. You got what are you going to

2303
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:38,880
Speaker 3: do with the receivers? Who you keeping? You got a

2304
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:44,960
Speaker 3: defense that's lost its teeth. Are the Niners done?

2305
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:47,800
Speaker 4: I feel like it, don't you?

2306
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:50,160
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, the run is done.

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02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 4: It feels like they're in a little bit of a

2308
02:07:53,120 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 4: rebuild minute here, you know, and they're going to have

2309
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 4: to rebuild with a lot of different weapons. And they

2310
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 4: health was such a huge part of the issue this year,

2311
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:03,920
Speaker 4: but that's not going away. They're not getting younger in

2312
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 4: any of these key spots and so and now they're

2313
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 4: gonna have to make a real decision on what to

2314
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:11,440
Speaker 4: do with Brock. So, man, I don't envy where the

2315
02:08:11,480 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 4: forty nine ers are right now. I think the forty

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02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:16,760
Speaker 4: nine ers are. They've blinked, and it feels like their

2317
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 4: windows a little bit more closed than it was. And

2318
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Speaker 4: by the way, I like, we're quickly going to learn

2319
02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 4: that whether or not Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay belong

2320
02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 4: in the same sentence, Like the rams get some benefit

2321
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 4: of the doubt for the way they consistently have been

2322
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 4: able to rebuild through this process. And you know, we

2323
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:37,520
Speaker 4: can't say the same for the forty nine ers right now.

2324
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 4: So they're they're in a they're in a.

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Speaker 2: Bit of a pick, a bit of a girk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and then you'll get the Rams and

2327
02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 3: you know again, you got an aging quarterback and Cup

2328
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 3: won't be back. And they look, they took the Eagles

2329
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 3: to the brink. They played the Eagles better than anybody.

2330
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Speaker 3: And who knows if not for Jalen Carter punching out

2331
02:08:57,440 --> 02:09:02,160
Speaker 3: the ball on Kyed Williams as the Rams are driving

2332
02:09:02,240 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 3: to take the lead, or at the end of the

2333
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 3: game what he sacks Stafford, who knows, could have been

2334
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 3: a different story. But I just don't know going forward,

2335
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 3: how much you know, you know again, you got it's

2336
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 3: all about Stafford and whether or not continue to play

2337
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 3: that level.

2338
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and whether or not he's going to commit. You know,

2339
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 4: one thing that Charles Robinson has said with me on

2340
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:29,440
Speaker 4: one of our Yahoo shows repeatedly is that there seems

2341
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 4: to be some indication that, you know, McVeigh doesn't really

2342
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 4: want to have to redo this every year, so they

2343
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:37,040
Speaker 4: like they'd like to know that, you know, are we

2344
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:40,360
Speaker 4: getting two years? And Stafford doesn't seem to be willing

2345
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 4: to want to do that, like are we at a

2346
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:44,320
Speaker 4: fork in the road moment? And that makes things really

2347
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 4: tough for the Rams because there isn't a clear cut

2348
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:50,080
Speaker 4: replacement for Stafford right now. Like I I think that

2349
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 4: that that's what makes the difficult. There isn't a guy

2350
02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:54,160
Speaker 4: that they can look at and say, well, this is

2351
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 4: this is going to be our bridge, you know, so

2352
02:09:57,240 --> 02:09:59,800
Speaker 4: so what are you going to do? And you know

2353
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,320
Speaker 4: where Stafford going to go? Because you know, Stafford costs

2354
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,720
Speaker 4: a ton of money, and so part of its financial,

2355
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:07,800
Speaker 4: part of its commitment, all of these things at once.

2356
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:11,360
Speaker 4: I think the Rams are in They're in a bit

2357
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:12,920
Speaker 4: of a rock and a hard place here trying to

2358
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:15,120
Speaker 4: figure out how to build around the quarterback position moving

2359
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:17,720
Speaker 4: forward for a team that was way ahead of schedule.

2360
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, now you got The other two teams are

2361
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 2: interesting because.

2362
02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 3: I like Seattle. I think Seattle's got the bones of something.

2363
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:35,400
Speaker 3: But again, you know, Gina is just okay. I like

2364
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 3: their defense a lot. They got terrific, good young skill guys.

2365
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:43,440
Speaker 3: They need to get better on the fronts on the

2366
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:46,520
Speaker 3: both their D line and their O line. But their

2367
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:51,360
Speaker 3: back seven is nice on defense and they're I like

2368
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 3: their skilled people on offense.

2369
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I do think that, remembering that when they

2370
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 4: brought in their coach, there was a conversation about how

2371
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:01,760
Speaker 4: long it would take that defense to settle down into

2372
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:04,760
Speaker 4: his system. I think there is an adjustment to that,

2373
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 4: and these Seahawks are still sort of deciding what their

2374
02:11:08,240 --> 02:11:10,920
Speaker 4: identity is going to be post Pete Carroll. Also, so

2375
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:14,800
Speaker 4: you know, it's you're right. I don't love Geno, but

2376
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:17,640
Speaker 4: I don't dislike Gino enough to want to get rid

2377
02:11:17,680 --> 02:11:20,600
Speaker 4: of him. But I do constantly look at the Seahawks

2378
02:11:20,640 --> 02:11:24,040
Speaker 4: and think, man, this should be better if we're being honest,

2379
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:26,560
Speaker 4: like the weapons that they have on the outside, and

2380
02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:29,640
Speaker 4: I believe a lot in their running back room. You know,

2381
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 4: they should have a pretty simple job for their quarterbacks. So,

2382
02:11:34,160 --> 02:11:37,480
Speaker 4: you know, it just the Seahawks feel like they're sort

2383
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 4: of stuck in no man's land right now, not good

2384
02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:42,000
Speaker 4: enough to be great and not bad enough to be bad.

2385
02:11:42,160 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 4: So I don't know what changes that.

2386
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 3: And then Arizona, you know, you think they should be better, Yeah,

2387
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 3: you know, and they need another receiver need something.

2388
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Kyler played well last year.

2389
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:00,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think Kyler was really the you know,

2390
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:03,920
Speaker 4: to that end, and you're right, like we had huge

2391
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 4: expectations from Marvin Harrison Junior and he was fine. He

2392
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:10,280
Speaker 4: was fine. But man, that sort of describes this this

2393
02:12:10,480 --> 02:12:14,600
Speaker 4: Arizona team. They're fine, Like how do they take a

2394
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,880
Speaker 4: dramatic step forward? And it feels like they're constantly saying

2395
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:21,080
Speaker 4: we're just one weapon away, but they're always one weapon away.

2396
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 4: It's they're stuck. Also, it's a very strange spot for

2397
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 4: that franchise to be in.

2398
02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:31,960
Speaker 3: All right, to the NFC South. The team that I

2399
02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:33,400
Speaker 3: think do you have to watch out for it in

2400
02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:38,600
Speaker 3: the South is Atlanta because I like Panix a lot

2401
02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:43,959
Speaker 3: and you know, I love I think Atlanta is poised

2402
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 3: to make some move. I think they're in a good

2403
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:50,560
Speaker 3: spot now. Obviously Tampa coming off a terrific year. I

2404
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:53,800
Speaker 3: think Baker solidified himself as a quarterback. But I think

2405
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:56,760
Speaker 3: Atlanta is going to be a team that's got a

2406
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:57,400
Speaker 3: real chance.

2407
02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, and it's going to be a beautiful

2408
02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 4: thing to watch Michael Pennock Junior just blossom this year.

2409
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:07,800
Speaker 4: Like I really think that's going to turn out to be.

2410
02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:12,560
Speaker 4: We're gonna end up with just a historic draft class

2411
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:16,440
Speaker 4: out of last year. And frankly, as weird as it is,

2412
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:18,920
Speaker 4: I even think that just the fact that he sat

2413
02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:21,680
Speaker 4: when he sat probably helped in this whole process too.

2414
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,320
Speaker 4: I am curious to see if Kirk keeps playing somewhere,

2415
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 4: you know, there aren't there's certainly gonna be enough spots

2416
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:31,600
Speaker 4: open is Kirk. Does Kirk end up in San Francisco

2417
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:34,360
Speaker 4: as a backup? Does he end up somewhere trying to start?

2418
02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:36,600
Speaker 4: You know, what happens with them is really interesting to me.

2419
02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:42,440
Speaker 3: Then you got uh, and then Tampa. I mean, look, listen,

2420
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:46,920
Speaker 3: tamp Is. I mean they had a great year. They

2421
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:49,160
Speaker 3: had a great Baker had a great year.

2422
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:50,320
Speaker 2: That team.

2423
02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:53,880
Speaker 3: You know how long Mike Evans could do it. He's

2424
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:59,040
Speaker 3: just wonder But you know, Bucky Irving's a stud. So

2425
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:02,120
Speaker 3: they got a great act for the future. They have

2426
02:14:02,840 --> 02:14:07,000
Speaker 3: you know, uh, they have a good old line. I mean,

2427
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:08,800
Speaker 3: that's a good team. It's a good offense.

2428
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look that they've become consistently the best team in

2429
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:15,960
Speaker 4: their division for a reason. And Baker gets guys paid

2430
02:14:16,200 --> 02:14:18,320
Speaker 4: like at this point, I don't. I think it's fair

2431
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:20,520
Speaker 4: to say, Hey, how much of it is the offensive

2432
02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 4: coordinated this with Baker, and how much of it is

2433
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:27,320
Speaker 4: the Baker has finally just stepped into being who he is. Right, Look,

2434
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:31,200
Speaker 4: the Bucks over simplification here. The Bucks are going to

2435
02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:33,800
Speaker 4: continually be the best team in a bad division. There's

2436
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:35,839
Speaker 4: no reason for me to think that that's going anyway.

2437
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

2438
02:14:39,400 --> 02:14:42,640
Speaker 3: And then, you know, Carolina is an interesting piece because

2439
02:14:42,720 --> 02:14:46,120
Speaker 3: you go, all right, did the quarterbacks show be enough

2440
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:48,040
Speaker 3: to get me excited?

2441
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:54,120
Speaker 4: I think the answer is maybe. But I'm really glad

2442
02:14:54,160 --> 02:14:56,400
Speaker 4: that they showed enough to not draft someone this year

2443
02:14:56,560 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 4: because I don't think there's a better option. So it's

2444
02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:02,320
Speaker 4: kind of a win in for Carolina. If Bryce plays

2445
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:05,160
Speaker 4: really well next year, then hey, you avoided having to

2446
02:15:05,240 --> 02:15:07,680
Speaker 4: go back into the market. If he doesn't, you're going

2447
02:15:07,720 --> 02:15:09,600
Speaker 4: back into the market on a much better draft than

2448
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:12,720
Speaker 4: you're gonna get this year, you know. And that's so

2449
02:15:12,920 --> 02:15:15,320
Speaker 4: I think this is a win win for Carolina. But

2450
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:18,600
Speaker 4: because I do think Bryce, as it stands today, if

2451
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:20,360
Speaker 4: they were all in the draft at the same time,

2452
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:23,320
Speaker 4: Bryce would be a higher ranked prospect than either of

2453
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:26,400
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks. People are talking about this year, so I

2454
02:15:26,440 --> 02:15:28,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to have to go back in. But do

2455
02:15:28,720 --> 02:15:32,280
Speaker 4: I feel confident. No, I mean the Panthers feel like

2456
02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:34,840
Speaker 4: they're just sort of stuck, like they're getting their sea legs,

2457
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:35,040
Speaker 4: you know.

2458
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2459
02:15:37,200 --> 02:15:42,880
Speaker 3: And then of course the Saints a complete rebuild Kellen Moore,

2460
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 3: of you, coach, and you got to pick up the

2461
02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:46,800
Speaker 3: pieces again if.

2462
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:47,400
Speaker 2: You're in the Orleans.

2463
02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still curious what happens with Derek Carr. Like again,

2464
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:54,880
Speaker 4: you're talking about a quarterback that's not good enough but

2465
02:15:54,960 --> 02:15:57,800
Speaker 4: also not bad enough, and the cap number is the

2466
02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:00,640
Speaker 4: cap numbers, so you know, are this ain't gonna try

2467
02:16:00,680 --> 02:16:02,400
Speaker 4: and do something with it this year? They're just gonna

2468
02:16:02,480 --> 02:16:05,120
Speaker 4: run it back with Carr for a year. I just

2469
02:16:05,320 --> 02:16:07,080
Speaker 4: I don't know what the right thing to do is

2470
02:16:07,160 --> 02:16:10,000
Speaker 4: with Derek Carr, who's certainly not good enough to be

2471
02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:11,600
Speaker 4: the guy that you would want to build around for

2472
02:16:11,680 --> 02:16:14,280
Speaker 4: the rest of your life, but also not bad enough

2473
02:16:14,360 --> 02:16:16,120
Speaker 4: to turn around and just you know, pull the plug

2474
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:20,440
Speaker 4: on completely. And I mean again, in a world where

2475
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:22,120
Speaker 4: we've got we're sitting here trying to figure out if

2476
02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:24,880
Speaker 4: Jamis is going to get another job, Like you know,

2477
02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:27,640
Speaker 4: Derek Carr. Certainly, you want to tell me that the

2478
02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:30,160
Speaker 4: Titans wouldn't be better off having Derek Carr than anybody

2479
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:31,920
Speaker 4: they could draft this year. I think the answer to

2480
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:34,800
Speaker 4: that is yes, and that includes the Saints. By the way,

2481
02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:36,560
Speaker 4: I think the Saints are better off with Derek Carr

2482
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 4: than they would be with whoever they could get it, whatever,

2483
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:39,880
Speaker 4: the ninth pick in the draft.

2484
02:16:41,879 --> 02:16:47,359
Speaker 3: On to the NFC East. The Eagles, well, they're poised

2485
02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:50,960
Speaker 3: to repeat. They're young in all the right places. I

2486
02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:56,879
Speaker 3: talked about it earlier. Defensively, they're just really formidable.

2487
02:16:56,959 --> 02:16:57,080
Speaker 4: Man.

2488
02:16:57,120 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 3: They haven't the best defense in the NFL. This defense

2489
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:05,000
Speaker 3: rivaled the eighty five Bears, the two thousand Ravens, the

2490
02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:11,599
Speaker 3: Broncos against Carolina for the most dominating Super Bowl performance.

2491
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:17,760
Speaker 3: They're all young, they're getting better, they're coming together even more.

2492
02:17:18,800 --> 02:17:22,160
Speaker 3: I mean, they got a wicked front of young talent

2493
02:17:22,320 --> 02:17:28,640
Speaker 3: led by Jentlen Carter, good young linebackers, terrific young corners

2494
02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:29,560
Speaker 3: in the secondary.

2495
02:17:30,080 --> 02:17:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna be scary again.

2496
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no reason to think that they won't be.

2497
02:17:35,160 --> 02:17:38,440
Speaker 4: Right back in the conversation next year. That's they're built.

2498
02:17:38,520 --> 02:17:40,440
Speaker 4: They're built to be good for the next several years

2499
02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be a fun run.

2500
02:17:42,400 --> 02:17:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then.

2501
02:17:46,480 --> 02:17:50,520
Speaker 3: You got Washington because if there's one team that's gonna

2502
02:17:50,560 --> 02:17:53,080
Speaker 3: look to take the step up, it's the you know,

2503
02:17:53,160 --> 02:17:57,040
Speaker 3: in their first year. The whole thing jay you know,

2504
02:17:57,200 --> 02:18:00,320
Speaker 3: Jade Daniels is the story the NFL. The Darling gets

2505
02:18:00,480 --> 02:18:04,240
Speaker 3: all the way to the title game. Think about that,

2506
02:18:05,240 --> 02:18:07,920
Speaker 3: and they still you know, they're in the infancy of

2507
02:18:08,040 --> 02:18:09,240
Speaker 3: what they're building there.

2508
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 2: So you know, Commanders fans like football's back in the Capitol.

2509
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:17,920
Speaker 4: Third most cap space, coming into this year, way ahead

2510
02:18:17,959 --> 02:18:21,040
Speaker 4: of schedule for where anybody thought they would be and

2511
02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:23,280
Speaker 4: going to be able to address some of their needs

2512
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:25,680
Speaker 4: in the draft yard. The Commanders feel like they're they're

2513
02:18:25,720 --> 02:18:29,280
Speaker 4: well positioned right now, and that's that's an amazing I

2514
02:18:29,320 --> 02:18:31,600
Speaker 4: can't take anything away from where the Commanders are right

2515
02:18:31,640 --> 02:18:34,280
Speaker 4: now because it's it's pretty stunning to see what they

2516
02:18:34,360 --> 02:18:38,000
Speaker 4: did all in the first year of Jayden. His ability

2517
02:18:38,120 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 4: to take a leap in year two is going to

2518
02:18:40,160 --> 02:18:42,760
Speaker 4: be absolutely staggering to watch it. It's he's about to

2519
02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:44,120
Speaker 4: take the league over. Cannot wait.

2520
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, We'll continue the rest of the

2521
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:50,160
Speaker 3: East and the North which is still going.

2522
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:53,520
Speaker 2: To be the most interesting division. We'll do that. We'll

2523
02:18:53,560 --> 02:18:56,840
Speaker 2: take a look at some hoops. No brain today, he's

2524
02:18:56,879 --> 02:18:58,240
Speaker 2: getting married. Fits.

2525
02:18:58,360 --> 02:18:59,600
Speaker 4: Oh look at that.

2526
02:19:00,160 --> 02:19:03,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, the brain's getting married. So we wish to brain

2527
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:05,240
Speaker 3: lots of love and happiness.

2528
02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:09,600
Speaker 2: And we'll take a look at sports from a betting standpoint.

2529
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:11,720
Speaker 3: You and I take a look at the college hoop

2530
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:15,880
Speaker 3: card and everything else where the fellas right here on

2531
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:17,920
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

2532
02:19:22,280 --> 02:19:25,160
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2535
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2536
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Speaker 2: I hear you, FITZI.

2537
02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:45,199
Speaker 4: You know what, I think we need a live horn

2538
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:47,960
Speaker 4: section on the show. Yeah, you know, we talk to

2539
02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:50,680
Speaker 4: the bosses about this, like, just need a live horn

2540
02:19:50,760 --> 02:19:55,040
Speaker 4: section to play us in and out taking applications. We

2541
02:19:55,080 --> 02:19:57,320
Speaker 4: don't have the power for that. It's an unpaid position.

2542
02:19:58,400 --> 02:20:02,200
Speaker 4: But I just I just want I want this. I

2543
02:20:02,280 --> 02:20:05,000
Speaker 4: want just the instrumental version of this with a bunch

2544
02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:07,600
Speaker 4: of horns in the background. I think that's my summer

2545
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:10,920
Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah, it's my summer objective. Because I

2546
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:14,840
Speaker 4: never learned to play anything that like involves wind instruments

2547
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:16,680
Speaker 4: things like that, And I really want to play the

2548
02:20:16,760 --> 02:20:19,160
Speaker 4: saxophone just so I can play the solo to Careless

2549
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:21,560
Speaker 4: Whisper over and over and over again, like I can

2550
02:20:21,600 --> 02:20:23,720
Speaker 4: play it on a fiddle. But that's a cool Like

2551
02:20:23,879 --> 02:20:25,360
Speaker 4: I'm going to learn how to play the sacks this

2552
02:20:25,440 --> 02:20:27,760
Speaker 4: summer just so maybe by the end of the summer

2553
02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:29,800
Speaker 4: I'll just start playing the sacks in the middle of

2554
02:20:29,879 --> 02:20:31,840
Speaker 4: the show, you know, once I get it to not

2555
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:33,920
Speaker 4: do it back.

2556
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:37,000
Speaker 2: You know, fabulous dying in the back.

2557
02:20:37,400 --> 02:20:39,480
Speaker 4: Where were you on the Seal commercial? By the way,

2558
02:20:39,520 --> 02:20:41,120
Speaker 4: did it creep you out? Or did you like the

2559
02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:43,560
Speaker 4: Seal commercial or did you even notice it? Dude?

2560
02:20:43,879 --> 02:20:46,640
Speaker 3: I didn't even notice it. Okay, I didn't even my

2561
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:49,240
Speaker 3: wife said something about it. I was like, huh, Seal coreer.

2562
02:20:49,879 --> 02:20:54,680
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you one one commercial I told you,

2563
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:58,760
Speaker 3: I meander don't halftime, we went outside. We were just

2564
02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:02,040
Speaker 3: kind of talking about the game and the girls are

2565
02:21:02,080 --> 02:21:04,920
Speaker 3: watching it halftime and then the commercial.

2566
02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:07,200
Speaker 2: Dude, I couldn't even tell you.

2567
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:10,280
Speaker 3: We were talking the whole old throughout the old commercials

2568
02:21:11,400 --> 02:21:15,200
Speaker 3: because the game's going on and you know, and you're

2569
02:21:15,320 --> 02:21:18,600
Speaker 3: you're we're like in we're in shock right the way

2570
02:21:18,680 --> 02:21:21,600
Speaker 3: the games go, was it the first half of happened?

2571
02:21:21,640 --> 02:21:23,880
Speaker 2: I guess the steal commercial was that the first half.

2572
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:25,240
Speaker 4: I think it was in the first half. Yeah, I

2573
02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:26,240
Speaker 4: think it was in the first half.

2574
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:28,920
Speaker 3: I mean we were so like, oh my god, this thing,

2575
02:21:30,040 --> 02:21:33,160
Speaker 3: like we were on a on a cloud, so we

2576
02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:36,800
Speaker 3: were thinking, oh my god, like, you know, look at

2577
02:21:36,840 --> 02:21:38,880
Speaker 3: his defense, and we're just talking about the game that

2578
02:21:39,080 --> 02:21:42,280
Speaker 3: I didn't even pay attention to any commercials. I think

2579
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:47,640
Speaker 3: when your teams, your team's in it, you lose, especially

2580
02:21:47,680 --> 02:21:51,760
Speaker 3: that kind of game you're losing, you you don't you

2581
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:53,520
Speaker 3: just don't pay attention to the other stuff.

2582
02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:54,520
Speaker 2: At least I don't.

2583
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:58,000
Speaker 4: No, I think like the rest of it's a blur.

2584
02:21:58,240 --> 02:21:59,920
Speaker 4: When your team's in the super Bowl, it's got it

2585
02:22:00,280 --> 02:22:03,480
Speaker 4: like yeah, because you know you're actually paying attention to

2586
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:04,840
Speaker 4: the super Bowl, like.

2587
02:22:04,959 --> 02:22:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're thinking, all right, like you need wait

2588
02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:13,160
Speaker 3: a second, they score here, right, gud, You going, allright.

2589
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:15,560
Speaker 2: Well, Eagles are dominating. It's only ten to nothing.

2590
02:22:16,120 --> 02:22:20,800
Speaker 3: Right before the Cooper Degene picked six, and you're going,

2591
02:22:21,240 --> 02:22:23,400
Speaker 3: I don't like that. You're up ten nothing.

2592
02:22:23,480 --> 02:22:23,760
Speaker 2: That's it.

2593
02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 4: You've dominated this game, didn't seventeen nothing like, because that

2594
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:35,080
Speaker 4: was over. That's once it hit seventeen nothing. I was like, man,

2595
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:37,240
Speaker 4: Chiefs are gonna lose this football game.

2596
02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:38,000
Speaker 2: This is amazing.

2597
02:22:38,200 --> 02:22:40,960
Speaker 4: Like that's where it really felt like, Okay, that was

2598
02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:44,000
Speaker 4: that was the moment where everything was set, everything was done.

2599
02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:46,440
Speaker 3: And I did like the Eagles going in. I mean

2600
02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:49,440
Speaker 3: you know that, Like, I thought their front, it wasn't

2601
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:53,600
Speaker 3: a Homer picking. I thought their front, would you know,

2602
02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 3: would dominate the game.

2603
02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:57,560
Speaker 2: I was giving out the minus ninety and a half

2604
02:22:57,600 --> 02:22:59,520
Speaker 2: because I thought, but I thought it could get the

2605
02:22:59,640 --> 02:23:03,240
Speaker 2: double digits at the end because they had they.

2606
02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:06,920
Speaker 3: Had been doing that all year long, scoring in the

2607
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:09,199
Speaker 3: third and fourth quarter. Because there's such a great second

2608
02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:11,760
Speaker 3: half team. I didn't think that they would come out

2609
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:14,520
Speaker 3: and just dominate. I thought the Chiefs have a little

2610
02:23:14,560 --> 02:23:16,400
Speaker 3: early success, so I'm about to lead and then the

2611
02:23:16,440 --> 02:23:17,440
Speaker 3: Eagles would take over.

2612
02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:21,120
Speaker 2: But they just you know, dominate from jump and it was.

2613
02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:26,720
Speaker 3: It was amazing, all right, So let's do the We're

2614
02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:29,040
Speaker 3: in the middle of talking about the NFC East. We

2615
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:35,280
Speaker 3: did the Eagles, we did Washington and then uh Dallas

2616
02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:43,240
Speaker 3: and the Giants. Wow, FITZI, I mean, you're the Cowboys, man,

2617
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:45,880
Speaker 3: You're excited about Brian Scheinenheimer.

2618
02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:50,160
Speaker 4: No, well, here's the thing I will give. I'll give

2619
02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:56,040
Speaker 4: Jerry this, right, Jerry is not great at identifying super

2620
02:23:56,080 --> 02:23:58,040
Speaker 4: Bowl winning head coaches. I think that's a fair thing

2621
02:23:58,120 --> 02:24:01,840
Speaker 4: to say. But Jerry owns is not, at least in

2622
02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:06,240
Speaker 4: a very long time, put together a team or organization

2623
02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:09,920
Speaker 4: that flat out sucks Like that's not so. I do

2624
02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:13,560
Speaker 4: think there is some level of, hey, look the line

2625
02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:17,280
Speaker 4: in the sand, and we continually give him all the

2626
02:24:17,320 --> 02:24:21,240
Speaker 4: blame for what they're not able to accomplish. But also this,

2627
02:24:21,760 --> 02:24:24,039
Speaker 4: when's the last time Jerry had, you know, a couple

2628
02:24:24,080 --> 02:24:26,400
Speaker 4: of years of four or five wins, Like it just

2629
02:24:26,480 --> 02:24:30,160
Speaker 4: doesn't happen. So when I when I applied that portion

2630
02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:33,160
Speaker 4: of what Jerry's been able to identify, which is sort

2631
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:36,720
Speaker 4: of pretty good coaches, they get pretty good results. The

2632
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:39,520
Speaker 4: Cowboys are not suddenly going to be this just see

2633
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:42,440
Speaker 4: if suck for the next five years. In my mind,

2634
02:24:42,640 --> 02:24:44,600
Speaker 4: they're just not going to be great. Like if the if,

2635
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:47,000
Speaker 4: the if the line of super Bowls, they're not going

2636
02:24:47,080 --> 02:24:48,920
Speaker 4: to hit it. If the concept is that they're going

2637
02:24:49,000 --> 02:24:51,520
Speaker 4: to win five games. Man, it's been a long time

2638
02:24:51,560 --> 02:24:54,800
Speaker 4: since the Cowboys were perennially that you know, so, I

2639
02:24:54,879 --> 02:24:57,160
Speaker 4: think I think the Cowboys end up kind of who

2640
02:24:57,200 --> 02:25:00,640
Speaker 4: they've been, like a middle tier team that wins enough

2641
02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:03,120
Speaker 4: games to piss everybody off and doesn't win enough games

2642
02:25:03,160 --> 02:25:05,920
Speaker 4: to piss everybody off, And that becomes the conversation.

2643
02:25:06,920 --> 02:25:09,800
Speaker 3: Isn't there nuts? I mean, yeah, I think you're right.

2644
02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:13,160
Speaker 3: The only thing worse than the Cowboys is the Giants.

2645
02:25:15,400 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 4: And I'll go back to again. Charles Robinson said on

2646
02:25:18,120 --> 02:25:22,320
Speaker 4: Yahoo Sports this week that he was pretty stunned, has

2647
02:25:22,440 --> 02:25:25,560
Speaker 4: been pretty stunned to hear the Giants people around the

2648
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:29,240
Speaker 4: Giants organization talking so loudly about doing work on the

2649
02:25:29,360 --> 02:25:33,240
Speaker 4: veteran quarterbacks. I don't believe that the Giants are as

2650
02:25:33,560 --> 02:25:35,880
Speaker 4: enamored with cam warder shoot or Sanders as a lot

2651
02:25:35,920 --> 02:25:38,959
Speaker 4: of people do. So I think where it gets really

2652
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:42,240
Speaker 4: interesting is that, you know, go back to what c

2653
02:25:42,440 --> 02:25:45,840
Speaker 4: Robs said that the people around the organization are pretty

2654
02:25:45,879 --> 02:25:48,640
Speaker 4: convinced that day Bill understands it's going to take ten

2655
02:25:48,680 --> 02:25:51,320
Speaker 4: wins to save his job in that range, and there's

2656
02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:53,200
Speaker 4: not a rookie quarterback that's going to get you to that.

2657
02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:56,840
Speaker 4: So the Giants are doing their work on Stafford and

2658
02:25:57,280 --> 02:25:59,640
Speaker 4: Darnold and you know, they're hoping that one of those

2659
02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:02,360
Speaker 4: guys I'm available to him, and I just even if

2660
02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:04,080
Speaker 4: they get one of those guys, I still think that

2661
02:26:04,160 --> 02:26:06,960
Speaker 4: this is a bad football team. And so it's just

2662
02:26:07,400 --> 02:26:10,520
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty wild to me that, you know, the Giants.

2663
02:26:10,560 --> 02:26:12,880
Speaker 4: I think the Giants are stuck in no man's land

2664
02:26:12,920 --> 02:26:15,400
Speaker 4: of like, you know, what's a good year? Five wins,

2665
02:26:15,560 --> 02:26:16,760
Speaker 4: six wins like that's.

2666
02:26:16,760 --> 02:26:18,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's the other problem with having a veteran coach

2667
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:21,760
Speaker 3: like that that you're I mean a coach that that

2668
02:26:22,879 --> 02:26:26,600
Speaker 3: you got to You gotta either commit to dable beyond

2669
02:26:26,959 --> 02:26:29,640
Speaker 3: and say all right, listen, yep, you get another rebuilt

2670
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:33,320
Speaker 3: like here's the deal, because you can't have your coach

2671
02:26:33,480 --> 02:26:34,240
Speaker 3: worrying about.

2672
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:40,520
Speaker 2: His job when you need to rebuild a fit. The

2673
02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:41,440
Speaker 2: GM's the.

2674
02:26:41,480 --> 02:26:44,960
Speaker 3: One that I that's my boggling to me, that's the

2675
02:26:45,040 --> 02:26:47,000
Speaker 3: guy that I don't understand how his job not to

2676
02:26:47,040 --> 02:26:52,280
Speaker 3: able Joe Shane all right, quickly, the NFC North is

2677
02:26:52,400 --> 02:26:58,560
Speaker 3: the most fascinating division. The Lions come in now again.

2678
02:27:00,360 --> 02:27:05,120
Speaker 3: My only question is you lose Ben Johnson. You have this,

2679
02:27:05,480 --> 02:27:09,520
Speaker 3: You're off to this epic season, right like you come

2680
02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:13,039
Speaker 3: on to the scene. You almost get to the super Bowl,

2681
02:27:13,240 --> 02:27:17,880
Speaker 3: not for the blowing that lead where you know you

2682
02:27:17,879 --> 02:27:19,800
Speaker 3: should have took the three, but whatever.

2683
02:27:20,360 --> 02:27:24,520
Speaker 2: You have this amazing season, great season. You're the defense.

2684
02:27:24,920 --> 02:27:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't get more unlucky than Detroit because

2685
02:27:29,360 --> 02:27:34,280
Speaker 3: it's defense just got gutted and that's ultimately why you

2686
02:27:34,400 --> 02:27:38,880
Speaker 3: lost to Washington in the playoffs. But you should be

2687
02:27:39,040 --> 02:27:42,200
Speaker 3: healthy and other than losing Ben Johnson, you should get

2688
02:27:42,200 --> 02:27:45,640
Speaker 3: everybody back on defense, and their offense is still gonna

2689
02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:48,160
Speaker 3: be prolific. Kids is the best running back in the

2690
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:53,800
Speaker 3: NFL with Barkley. So I mean you should feel good

2691
02:27:53,800 --> 02:27:54,400
Speaker 3: about yourself.

2692
02:27:56,040 --> 02:27:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if you're the Lions, you're just running

2693
02:27:58,560 --> 02:28:01,600
Speaker 4: it back, try it again. Like, I don't think this

2694
02:28:01,800 --> 02:28:06,680
Speaker 4: is some reason to panic for Detroit. You can't help

2695
02:28:06,840 --> 02:28:09,640
Speaker 4: the number of games lost for starters to injury. You

2696
02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:12,640
Speaker 4: just got to recalibrate and hope that you know, maybe

2697
02:28:12,680 --> 02:28:14,240
Speaker 4: you want to look at your training staff, maybe you

2698
02:28:14,280 --> 02:28:16,120
Speaker 4: want to look at your training process. I don't know,

2699
02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:18,920
Speaker 4: but when it comes to your actual result on the field,

2700
02:28:19,240 --> 02:28:21,800
Speaker 4: you're just you're lining it up and you're running it

2701
02:28:21,879 --> 02:28:25,480
Speaker 4: back and you're hoping that you know you can stay

2702
02:28:25,520 --> 02:28:28,000
Speaker 4: healthy enough to put the best version of yourself on

2703
02:28:28,040 --> 02:28:30,240
Speaker 4: the field at the end of the year. And you're

2704
02:28:30,240 --> 02:28:32,560
Speaker 4: also hoping that, you know, the meltdown that you saw

2705
02:28:32,800 --> 02:28:34,160
Speaker 4: at the end of the year is just sort of

2706
02:28:34,240 --> 02:28:38,959
Speaker 4: an aberration, right, So you know, yeah, if I'm the Lions,

2707
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:41,800
Speaker 4: I'm not changing anything. If I'm the Lions, I feel

2708
02:28:41,879 --> 02:28:44,320
Speaker 4: really good going into next year. Just keep doing what

2709
02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:44,760
Speaker 4: you're doing.

2710
02:28:45,120 --> 02:28:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only problem is if you're Detroit, you were

2711
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:50,920
Speaker 2: the super Bowl favorite.

2712
02:28:51,760 --> 02:28:53,680
Speaker 4: Yep, that's fair, you know, and.

2713
02:28:53,720 --> 02:28:56,880
Speaker 3: Then you'll and you are losing Beg Johnson, so you're

2714
02:28:57,000 --> 02:29:00,680
Speaker 3: loseer off of your OC. That's a that's gonna be

2715
02:29:00,720 --> 02:29:01,400
Speaker 3: a big deal too.

2716
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:06,640
Speaker 2: Green Bay, I mean Green Bay looks it looks like

2717
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:08,199
Speaker 2: it's gonna be good again.

2718
02:29:08,320 --> 02:29:11,440
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're a younger team, and you like

2719
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:16,080
Speaker 3: their pieces. I think Jordan Love comes back and has

2720
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:19,000
Speaker 3: a good year, and you know, I think there are

2721
02:29:19,160 --> 02:29:21,840
Speaker 3: another team that's been on the ascent and they'll continue

2722
02:29:21,879 --> 02:29:22,280
Speaker 3: to be there.

2723
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree that. You know, this division still

2724
02:29:26,720 --> 02:29:30,640
Speaker 4: looks really solid. Like everything we said about this division.

2725
02:29:30,680 --> 02:29:35,080
Speaker 3: Right Minnesota, You're gonna have JJ come in to do blood, right,

2726
02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:38,160
Speaker 3: you got you know, your your fail like Donald failed,

2727
02:29:39,480 --> 02:29:43,199
Speaker 3: and now JJ gets to take over with those receivers.

2728
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:46,920
Speaker 3: With that defense, I mean, nothing's gonna feel good if

2729
02:29:46,920 --> 02:29:47,720
Speaker 3: you're Minnesota.

2730
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:52,440
Speaker 2: And then dude, then it goes back to Ben Johnson Chicago,

2731
02:29:53,520 --> 02:29:54,360
Speaker 2: which is can.

2732
02:29:54,280 --> 02:29:59,080
Speaker 3: He rescue Caleb Williams? Like this division is a great division.

2733
02:29:59,200 --> 02:30:01,480
Speaker 3: It's it's got a lot of drama to it.

2734
02:30:02,320 --> 02:30:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this division still shapes up to be

2735
02:30:04,959 --> 02:30:07,200
Speaker 4: the best division in football for the next year and

2736
02:30:07,320 --> 02:30:11,000
Speaker 4: for the next three years probably, you know, and and look,

2737
02:30:11,080 --> 02:30:13,039
Speaker 4: none of us know if Ben Johnson's gonna work out,

2738
02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:15,760
Speaker 4: but certainly every indication is that it's a hire to

2739
02:30:15,800 --> 02:30:19,360
Speaker 4: be excited about. I still believe that Caleb Williams is

2740
02:30:19,440 --> 02:30:21,440
Speaker 4: going to end up being a superstar in this league.

2741
02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:24,960
Speaker 4: So you know, you give a superstar quarterback to a

2742
02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:27,960
Speaker 4: superstar rockstar head coach. This this all feels like there's

2743
02:30:27,959 --> 02:30:30,279
Speaker 4: a lot of reason for Chicago to be super excited.

2744
02:30:31,120 --> 02:30:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, all right, we uh, we're gonna take quick

2745
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:36,480
Speaker 2: to you.

2746
02:30:36,680 --> 02:30:39,360
Speaker 3: We'll come back and let's let's look at the because

2747
02:30:39,440 --> 02:30:41,120
Speaker 3: no brain, because he's getting married.

2748
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:43,920
Speaker 2: You and I will take a look at the card. Today.

2749
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:47,840
Speaker 2: College basketball from a betting standpoint. So we look at

2750
02:30:47,879 --> 02:30:51,440
Speaker 2: some college hoops and uh and get you on your

2751
02:30:51,520 --> 02:30:55,880
Speaker 2: way where the fellas every Saturday right here on Fox

2752
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:57,000
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

2753
02:31:04,360 --> 02:31:08,520
Speaker 4: It just feels you know, I it's different when there's

2754
02:31:08,560 --> 02:31:13,360
Speaker 4: no football. Yeah, man, it's different. It's different.

2755
02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:14,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2756
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:18,600
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here watching, you know, cutups of Sam Donald

2757
02:31:18,640 --> 02:31:21,879
Speaker 4: trying to get excited. That's where we are now. That's

2758
02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:27,960
Speaker 4: the next three months watching cutups of quarterbacks while we

2759
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:30,280
Speaker 4: desperately try and figure out Like, so, this is my

2760
02:31:31,240 --> 02:31:33,920
Speaker 4: this is my Debbie Downer prediction, my Debbie Downer prediction

2761
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:36,280
Speaker 4: from all of this, Like as much as we've talked

2762
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:38,720
Speaker 4: about the off season and what's going to happen, my

2763
02:31:38,879 --> 02:31:41,360
Speaker 4: Debbie Downer prediction is that the Saints are going to realize,

2764
02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:44,000
Speaker 4: for example, that there's just not a better option than

2765
02:31:44,040 --> 02:31:45,800
Speaker 4: Derek Carr, so they roll it back, even though it's

2766
02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:49,520
Speaker 4: not exciting. Stafford comes back to the Rams for the

2767
02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:53,400
Speaker 4: same exact reason. Sam Donald gets franchised for a year

2768
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:55,600
Speaker 4: by the Vikings because they want to make sure that

2769
02:31:55,680 --> 02:31:59,080
Speaker 4: they've got an insurance policy for JJ. And we're sitting

2770
02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:03,160
Speaker 4: here all of a sudden in two months realizing that

2771
02:32:03,800 --> 02:32:06,800
Speaker 4: cam Warden Shudeur Sanders also aren't it. And before you

2772
02:32:06,920 --> 02:32:09,360
Speaker 4: know it, the nine or ten teams that all haven't

2773
02:32:09,400 --> 02:32:12,440
Speaker 4: need at the quarterback position all realized that essentially there's screwed.

2774
02:32:12,920 --> 02:32:15,880
Speaker 4: There's no answer to that, and you end up with

2775
02:32:16,920 --> 02:32:20,600
Speaker 4: a battle for Daniel Jones and Jameis Winston to get

2776
02:32:20,640 --> 02:32:23,600
Speaker 4: to start somewhere, because you gotta have somebody start. And

2777
02:32:23,720 --> 02:32:25,920
Speaker 4: nobody feels good about any of it until we start

2778
02:32:25,959 --> 02:32:28,600
Speaker 4: trying to talk ourselves into Jackson Dart being the answer

2779
02:32:28,600 --> 02:32:31,360
Speaker 4: because people are just desperate for some sort of hope

2780
02:32:31,400 --> 02:32:33,840
Speaker 4: at the quarterback position when there is none until next year.

2781
02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:36,959
Speaker 4: That's my that's my very honest prediction of what I.

2782
02:32:36,959 --> 02:32:38,800
Speaker 2: Think is going to I can see it. I could

2783
02:32:38,840 --> 02:32:40,760
Speaker 2: totally say it, man, I could say it.

2784
02:32:42,560 --> 02:32:44,920
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a look at real quick at

2785
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:47,040
Speaker 3: the college slate today.

2786
02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:47,640
Speaker 2: It's a good one.

2787
02:32:48,280 --> 02:32:52,480
Speaker 3: There's a lot of good games today. The crown jewel

2788
02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:55,720
Speaker 3: is one v two. It is the iron ball you

2789
02:32:55,760 --> 02:33:02,520
Speaker 3: said earlier, all Burn Alabama and four clock all Burn

2790
02:33:02,760 --> 02:33:06,160
Speaker 3: Alabama a two and a half point favorite. I like

2791
02:33:06,280 --> 02:33:07,640
Speaker 3: al I like two over one.

2792
02:33:07,879 --> 02:33:08,400
Speaker 2: What do you think?

2793
02:33:08,879 --> 02:33:11,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? And also the first time ever that these two

2794
02:33:11,959 --> 02:33:15,480
Speaker 4: have met and it's number one versus number two in basketball. Like,

2795
02:33:15,600 --> 02:33:18,320
Speaker 4: that's it's just sort of crazy to think about. When

2796
02:33:18,320 --> 02:33:20,840
Speaker 4: we've talked a little bit about this, but the investment

2797
02:33:20,920 --> 02:33:23,320
Speaker 4: that the SEC made about a decade ago, deciding that

2798
02:33:23,440 --> 02:33:26,440
Speaker 4: they were going to start to invest in facilities and

2799
02:33:26,560 --> 02:33:29,480
Speaker 4: coaches and they no longer wanted to be a secondary

2800
02:33:30,840 --> 02:33:34,120
Speaker 4: mind of thought, I should say, in the college basketball

2801
02:33:34,160 --> 02:33:37,440
Speaker 4: power rankings. To think about where they've come to at

2802
02:33:37,480 --> 02:33:41,160
Speaker 4: this point, man, that is just it's crazy. It's the

2803
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:43,080
Speaker 4: first time we have a number one versus number two

2804
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:46,760
Speaker 4: during the regular season since what twenty twenty one? Yeah,

2805
02:33:47,200 --> 02:33:50,840
Speaker 4: this is just this is a really really special moment

2806
02:33:50,959 --> 02:33:55,080
Speaker 4: for both of these teams. It's special for the SEC

2807
02:33:55,240 --> 02:33:57,880
Speaker 4: to get to this situation, and I just, man, I

2808
02:33:57,920 --> 02:33:59,920
Speaker 4: can't wait. This is the time that some of the

2809
02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:02,160
Speaker 4: these teams are going to start to really prove where

2810
02:34:02,240 --> 02:34:04,600
Speaker 4: they are. But like, there's a number one seed likely

2811
02:34:04,680 --> 02:34:06,720
Speaker 4: on the line from this game in the NCAA Tournament.

2812
02:34:06,760 --> 02:34:07,400
Speaker 4: That's incredible.

2813
02:34:08,040 --> 02:34:08,800
Speaker 2: I like Bama.

2814
02:34:10,080 --> 02:34:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I like Bama too. I think I think,

2815
02:34:13,360 --> 02:34:15,400
Speaker 4: I think so. But this really it feels like a

2816
02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 4: flip of the coin, right, Like, but yeah, I think

2817
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:18,600
Speaker 4: I like Bama.

2818
02:34:21,920 --> 02:34:24,680
Speaker 3: No, we'll go through them real quick. A and M

2819
02:34:24,959 --> 02:34:30,200
Speaker 3: against Arkansas to start today. That's a noon tip. That's

2820
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:33,600
Speaker 3: a good game. A and M of course number eight

2821
02:34:33,680 --> 02:34:36,640
Speaker 3: in the country. Any thoughts they're an eight and a

2822
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:37,640
Speaker 3: half point favorite.

2823
02:34:38,160 --> 02:34:39,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think actually kind of roll in this game.

2824
02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:43,720
Speaker 4: And M I'm a sneaky right now, can can beat

2825
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:45,280
Speaker 4: you a lot of different ways. So I think they're

2826
02:34:45,320 --> 02:34:45,879
Speaker 4: rolling this one.

2827
02:34:46,959 --> 02:34:52,760
Speaker 3: Tennessee twelve and a half over Vandy that's coming up

2828
02:34:52,840 --> 02:34:53,400
Speaker 3: at one.

2829
02:34:56,000 --> 02:34:59,680
Speaker 2: They shouldn't they should. I think Vandy keeps his game close,

2830
02:34:59,760 --> 02:35:00,760
Speaker 2: but to see wins.

2831
02:35:01,360 --> 02:35:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that one

2832
02:35:04,440 --> 02:35:08,320
Speaker 4: one sneaky game on the radar today. Michigan State USC.

2833
02:35:09,040 --> 02:35:11,240
Speaker 4: Just keep an eye for all y'all that may not

2834
02:35:11,320 --> 02:35:14,280
Speaker 4: have watched any Michigan State you're talking about the best

2835
02:35:14,320 --> 02:35:16,120
Speaker 4: free throw shooting team in the country or one. Oh

2836
02:35:16,120 --> 02:35:18,640
Speaker 4: if you're talking about one of the better shooting teams

2837
02:35:18,680 --> 02:35:21,400
Speaker 4: in some ways, but you are also talking about one

2838
02:35:21,440 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 4: of the most pitiful shooting from the outside deep teams

2839
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:27,520
Speaker 4: I've ever seen, And like, I can't see. I cannot

2840
02:35:27,560 --> 02:35:30,320
Speaker 4: sit here and figure out if Michigan State's actually going

2841
02:35:30,400 --> 02:35:33,440
Speaker 4: to be any good Like I truly wonder what happens

2842
02:35:33,520 --> 02:35:35,880
Speaker 4: to Michigan State in the tournament if they cannot figure

2843
02:35:35,879 --> 02:35:38,320
Speaker 4: out how to throw, how to score at all. Deep.

2844
02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:41,920
Speaker 4: So it's just the lack of shooting for Michigan State

2845
02:35:42,040 --> 02:35:42,760
Speaker 4: is a problem for me.

2846
02:35:43,480 --> 02:35:48,720
Speaker 2: So Michigan State's at Illinois. Sorry, I pull up the line,

2847
02:35:49,040 --> 02:35:53,160
Speaker 2: six and a half over them, over Spardy. That's a

2848
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:53,600
Speaker 2: good game.

2849
02:35:53,840 --> 02:35:58,920
Speaker 3: You're right, I like illing, like unragged ILLINOI six and

2850
02:35:58,920 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 3: a half point favorites a lot.

2851
02:36:01,640 --> 02:36:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just Michigan State's got to figure out what's

2852
02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:08,440
Speaker 4: wrong shooting the ball again. Like I think there were

2853
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:10,680
Speaker 4: four for twenty five from the floor the other night

2854
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:13,200
Speaker 4: from three and like that was better than they have

2855
02:36:13,360 --> 02:36:15,880
Speaker 4: been at times. Like it's just they cannot shoot their

2856
02:36:15,879 --> 02:36:17,880
Speaker 4: way out of out of any sort of a deficit,

2857
02:36:17,959 --> 02:36:20,200
Speaker 4: any sort of a hole. So that becomes interesting to me.

2858
02:36:21,879 --> 02:36:23,720
Speaker 2: What else we got? We got a couple of duke

2859
02:36:24,280 --> 02:36:29,199
Speaker 2: is home against Stanford, huge favor eighteen and a half points.

2860
02:36:29,200 --> 02:36:31,120
Speaker 4: Coming off an upset too, so they're going to be

2861
02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:31,600
Speaker 4: fired up.

2862
02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that. After the Clemson game.

2863
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:40,320
Speaker 3: Miss Mississippi State another at CC battle. That's another gut

2864
02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:44,640
Speaker 3: one ole miss and Mississippi State nineteen versus twenty two.

2865
02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like, by the way, this is that upper

2866
02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:51,520
Speaker 4: middle class of the SEC that's just beating up on

2867
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:55,680
Speaker 4: each other right now. So yeah, these are interesting games

2868
02:36:55,720 --> 02:36:59,240
Speaker 4: for seeding purposes. The SEC just feels like everybody's likely

2869
02:36:59,320 --> 02:37:02,080
Speaker 4: to make the tournament, so seeding is going to become huge. Well,

2870
02:37:02,200 --> 02:37:05,000
Speaker 4: fourteen out of sixteen, I think we're in the most

2871
02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:09,160
Speaker 4: recent the most recent Linardi fourteen out of sixteen teams

2872
02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:12,080
Speaker 4: from the SEC ended up in that crazy. It is

2873
02:37:12,200 --> 02:37:13,360
Speaker 4: wild what we're seeing right now.

2874
02:37:15,400 --> 02:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Not a great one in Houston at Arizona six v.

2875
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:21,240
Speaker 2: Thirteen in that.

2876
02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:23,640
Speaker 4: Game, that is a good game. I didn't even realize

2877
02:37:23,680 --> 02:37:26,240
Speaker 4: that game was. That comes back to the thing we

2878
02:37:26,360 --> 02:37:28,840
Speaker 4: were talking about earlier, Like I totally didn't realize that

2879
02:37:28,920 --> 02:37:32,959
Speaker 4: game was going on today. So that, yeah, absolutely, Use.

2880
02:37:33,040 --> 02:37:36,160
Speaker 3: Is a slight favorite on the road and in the

2881
02:37:36,240 --> 02:37:39,240
Speaker 3: Big Ten Purdue Wisconsin. That's always a good game. Purdue

2882
02:37:39,800 --> 02:37:42,560
Speaker 3: five and a half seventh rank number seventh in the

2883
02:37:42,640 --> 02:37:45,119
Speaker 3: country against number sixteen Wisconsin.

2884
02:37:45,560 --> 02:37:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2885
02:37:45,879 --> 02:37:48,280
Speaker 4: And also not for nothing, I mean Purdue is kind

2886
02:37:48,280 --> 02:37:51,039
Speaker 4: of right back there, you know. It's it's it's funny

2887
02:37:51,080 --> 02:37:53,280
Speaker 4: to me that if you'd asked us a year ago,

2888
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:55,760
Speaker 4: you know who is going to be okay coming off

2889
02:37:55,800 --> 02:37:58,560
Speaker 4: the national championship game. Would it be Purdue they was

2890
02:37:58,640 --> 02:38:01,400
Speaker 4: able to Conepe continue run it back, or would it

2891
02:38:01,440 --> 02:38:04,400
Speaker 4: be Yukon? And I realized Harley loves to talk his

2892
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:07,840
Speaker 4: talk after getting that win the other night, but Yukon's unranked.

2893
02:38:08,120 --> 02:38:10,840
Speaker 4: Like I just one of the more surprising things we've

2894
02:38:10,879 --> 02:38:13,400
Speaker 4: seen this year is that Yukon is is finds weird

2895
02:38:13,480 --> 02:38:14,640
Speaker 4: ways to lose basketball.

2896
02:38:14,720 --> 02:38:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got that right. And then uh, tonight

2897
02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:29,360
Speaker 2: USA Canada Foundation. That's a great getting, dude. I'm actually like,

2898
02:38:29,680 --> 02:38:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, to like it's date night. I'm like, oh, man,

2899
02:38:31,600 --> 02:38:32,879
Speaker 2: I want to watch this game.

2900
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:35,640
Speaker 4: In the background.

2901
02:38:37,040 --> 02:38:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't think.

2902
02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:39,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2903
02:38:39,800 --> 02:38:41,720
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm going to do. I had

2904
02:38:41,959 --> 02:38:44,520
Speaker 3: I have to speak at the pen Baseball dinner tonight.

2905
02:38:45,879 --> 02:38:46,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

2906
02:38:46,600 --> 02:38:49,600
Speaker 2: And I'll be back probably around nine or a thirty.

2907
02:38:50,480 --> 02:38:52,880
Speaker 2: The games at eight. It's a great game, man. I'm like,

2908
02:38:53,040 --> 02:38:55,800
Speaker 2: I have the DVR anyway.

2909
02:38:55,600 --> 02:38:57,879
Speaker 4: Gargano with the flowers and the chocolates and.

2910
02:38:58,360 --> 02:39:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, where the fellas. We wish you a great weekend.

2911
02:39:02,840 --> 02:39:04,080
Speaker 3: We love you to see you next week.