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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast is too lazy to write

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Speaker 1: their own intros. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the League Podcast. My name is Dan Handsa's name,

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Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with some heroes, Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: and Dave Dava. Check. Hi, everybody wait to say I

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Speaker 1: didn't say it. I didn't. I was so caught off

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Speaker 1: balanced by Check being here. What up? Boys? That's my thing? Dave? Hello, Dan, Hello, Chris?

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Speaker 1: How are you? That's the That's my first time I've

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Speaker 1: ever called you Dan and Chris or something. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel right. Hey, hands can I just say something real

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Speaker 1: quick before you get into it? And I thought you

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Speaker 1: were shooting some stuff um here at NFL Network this morning,

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Speaker 1: I noticed you still have your makeup off. You're you're on.

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Speaker 1: I should say, you know it's okay to wipe it off.

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Speaker 1: I'm still wearing my face. And you know what happened actually,

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Speaker 1: because the way things work in the Around the League

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Speaker 1: group is you know you you help out with a

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Speaker 1: video project. Was just actually Dave damashs video project. You

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Speaker 1: left that out and I didn't have time simply it

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Speaker 1: was a time issue. So I'm still wearing my face.

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Speaker 1: You look terrific. You've never looked better. In fact, so

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Speaker 1: I have to your friends and family in New Yorker

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Speaker 1: couldn't be proud. My dad, my dad, everyone in the

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Speaker 1: coal town back in pro river Very, I'm sure proud

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Speaker 1: of me. Um Wes. Thank you for coming in on

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Speaker 1: your off day. My pleasure, always, always a pleasure. And

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Speaker 1: of course our other two gentlemen, Mark Sessler and Greg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal are in Orlando for the NFL annual meetings. So

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Speaker 1: it's pretty professional outfit here, Davi, as you could tell, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I can, I can, And they're down there kimbittzing about

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Speaker 1: all manner are rules changes, Yes, and you, Dave, you

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Speaker 1: are on a role last week, by the way, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to we're gonna actually talk. I'll be

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Speaker 1: talking to the two gentlemen in Orlando a little later

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Speaker 1: in the show. Dave had a big week last week.

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Speaker 1: I met with Kevin Costner on the air waves and

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Speaker 1: had one of the great lines I thought NFL network

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Speaker 1: recent history, which was this April levinth Draft day in theaters,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Costner has a hose. Kevin Costner has a hose.

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Speaker 1: Just a great well, thank you, Yes, of course I

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Speaker 1: couldn't pass on the opportunity to ask him, not unlike

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Speaker 1: he asks his fictionalized father at the end of Field

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Speaker 1: of Dreams, you want to have a catch? I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: out there on the stage with Costner. What else am

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Speaker 1: I going to ask him? I'll kick myself for the

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Speaker 1: rest of my days if I don't propose a catch

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Speaker 1: this time with a football. He graciously said, yes, we

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Speaker 1: threw it around and I don't know if it was

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Speaker 1: really sling that thing. He can spin it. He has

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Speaker 1: a hose. He's a pretty good athlete for an actor,

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Speaker 1: he is. Is he the in fact, is he the

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Speaker 1: most of any actor in history? This sounds like hyperbole,

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Speaker 1: but then really think about it. Is he the greatest

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Speaker 1: actor in sports movies ever? Well, he has to have

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Speaker 1: played the most characters, right, you would think. I think

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Speaker 1: this this latest picture Draft Day, where he's the Browns

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Speaker 1: you could see, it's the It's the great giveaway a

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Speaker 1: lot of Villa magnifico when an actor tries to throw

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Speaker 1: is the great reveal, that is something that is unspoken

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Speaker 1: but seen, and then you just followed away forever and

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Speaker 1: you always know my mom, Tom Cruise, uh having a catch?

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Speaker 1: Um in what was that alien movie? He was Are

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Speaker 1: you talking Parisian? Wait? Wait a second. You know if

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Speaker 1: you're a hillbilly you wouldn't know Parisian? Yeah, never mind,

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Speaker 1: scratch war the world's Tom Cruise, I mean catch with

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Speaker 1: It's really on part with John Travolta wedging in an

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Speaker 1: than Cruzies runner, right. But to get back to yes,

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Speaker 1: to get back to my point, that costner you could

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Speaker 1: not a great movie. It gets the babe to me

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Speaker 1: Please it's a or is Dallas North forty from Dallas.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen all of these old time pictures. I

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Speaker 1: need see. Also, right Moves. Here's an interesting bit of trivia,

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Speaker 1: right Moves. The high school steel Town picture starring the

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Speaker 1: aforementioned Tom Cruise. Of course he runs yeah with Craig T.

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Speaker 1: kids with a nine iron. That's far for the course

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Speaker 1: is Rifleman, and he throws a glorious ball. He cuts

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Speaker 1: Dan hand Zoo's in the seven Strike. He was one

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Speaker 1: sport that's the easiest tell on an actor. Basketball. How

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Speaker 1: How could you cast this guy who can't even dribble?

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Speaker 1: Of the cutaways, the the the shodily executed edit of

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Speaker 1: of uh teen Wolf is the stuff of legend. In

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Speaker 1: my book, Michael J. Fox goes up for a layup.

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Speaker 1: a little weird, but they've here because he calls you

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Speaker 1: by the name that you aren't really uh gold tie

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Speaker 1: I'm dealing with it. I'm sort of like the dog

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Speaker 1: who responds to you, buddy, dog dog's name. It's fine, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is your house. I'll play by your rules. Gold standard.

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Speaker 1: It is good man, Dave. Alright, so gold standard. How

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Speaker 1: about we do some news. Let's do it all right,

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Speaker 1: Let's start in Philadelphia. There's a couple of things going

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Speaker 1: Shawn Jackson. Howie Roseman, the Eagles general manager, is in

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Speaker 1: here's the quote that Roseman said, He's still under contract

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are playing this game

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Speaker 1: of uh. You know, the Panthers are in dire straits

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Speaker 1: Sean Jackson had a great year last year. He proved

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Speaker 1: beyond any doubt that he's a nice fit in what

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly does, and yet they're still itching to get

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Speaker 1: dump him for nothing. So what is it about this

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Speaker 1: guy behind the scenes that we don't know? And the

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Speaker 1: Jets finally got rid of a headache in Santonio Holmes

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Speaker 1: de Sean Jackson could be homes two point Oh. That

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Speaker 1: acknowledging yes, we're interested into Sean Jackson, which is a

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Speaker 1: no no according to the league's by laws. Uh, it

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Speaker 1: great year in chip Kelly's offense? Every other player in

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Speaker 1: chip Kelly's offense, Yeah, I I get you. And Shady

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Speaker 1: of Auburn, there was there were plenty of doubters about

427
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Speaker 1: that guy. I think the public persona of and Dominican

428
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Speaker 1: Sue is more different than any other player over who

429
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Speaker 1: he actually is as a person. He's not a bad guy.

430
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Speaker 1: What about as a player, though, what's wrong with kicking

431
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Speaker 1: a guy? Well, he's I mean, players are taught to

432
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Speaker 1: play a little dirty the time. Looking we're we're sitting

433
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Speaker 1: here in Studio sixty six. Look at the pictures on

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Speaker 1: the walls. We have Jack Lambert behind us, Ray nich Key,

435
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Speaker 1: there's Deacon Jones. Uh. You know, these guys did all

436
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Speaker 1: right with a playing with a little edge, a guy

437
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Speaker 1: named me and Joe Green. You know they punched and

438
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Speaker 1: kicked and everything else. All we do is celebrate those guys.

439
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Speaker 1: But now suddenly that in Dominican Sue has a stink

440
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Speaker 1: on him. This young man needs to get get ahold

441
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Speaker 1: of himself or he's gonna or he's gonna kick himself

442
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Speaker 1: right out of the National Football League. What the other

443
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: guys went to the Hall of Fame. What am I

444
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: missing here? Listen to Dave paint the picture of the room.

445
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Speaker 1: You could almost hear the listeners feeling like they're in

446
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Speaker 1: here with us. The way he did it. That's your

447
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Speaker 1: professional dad, Thank you dan. Uh did I mention that

448
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Speaker 1: you have makeup on? Still? I should go over there

449
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't remind me? Makeup lady said, come over

450
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Speaker 1: and I will give you the proper wipes. So I'm

451
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Speaker 1: going to do that after this. Yeah, there are a

452
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Speaker 1: lot of conversations I find myself having as a grown

453
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Speaker 1: man that makes me realize that it occurs to me, Wow,

454
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Speaker 1: this is not at all what my parents had mine,

455
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Speaker 1: This is not at all. They must be ashamed. We

456
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Speaker 1: got together all those years ago. A doctor maybe I

457
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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe a congressman, you know, who knows

458
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Speaker 1: what he'll be. No, he puts makeup on, and he

459
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Speaker 1: talks about other people. Do you want to hear some

460
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Speaker 1: great shame is after the one we're successful, more athletic

461
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Speaker 1: human beings. That's who he talks about. One dude working

462
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Speaker 1: on my hair. Uh, the lady working on my face,

463
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: and she's like, do you want some lip moisturizer and

464
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: I said, okay, yeah, take it, go ahead and trip

465
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Speaker 1: the light. Fantastic trip to life. And once that, once

466
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Speaker 1: the bosses get a load of you on camera, you're

467
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Speaker 1: never getting back on. What's lip moisturize? I don't know,

468
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: but it felt glorious. Uh. Finally Uh, more trouble for

469
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver Mike Williams, who was stabbed

470
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Speaker 1: in the thigh at his home in Tampa. He was

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Speaker 1: hospitalized and released in the same day. The police suspect

472
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Speaker 1: that Williams's brother is involved. Obviously Williams has been uh.

473
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Speaker 1: He has some scrapes of the law. And now the

474
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Speaker 1: prior Bucks regime was upset about his behavior while recovering

475
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Speaker 1: from a torn hamstring. Now this happens, even though who

476
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Speaker 1: knows this might not be his fault at all. You know,

477
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Speaker 1: he got stabbed, but you don't know the backstory is

478
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Speaker 1: Mike Williams going to be on the Bucks next year?

479
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Speaker 1: Who decided to give this guy a stack of money,

480
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Speaker 1: a lot of money? That was a bad idea from

481
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Speaker 1: the beginnings year, forty million dollar deal. Last year he

482
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Speaker 1: felt to the fourth round coming out of Syracuse because

483
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Speaker 1: he was a nut job. He was uncontrollable. No, the

484
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: coaches couldn't control him. And now we're supposed to be

485
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Speaker 1: surprised that he's arrested one week, his brother stabs him

486
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Speaker 1: the next week. It wouldn't surprise me if he's off

487
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Speaker 1: the roster. If they draft Sammy Watkins and a lot

488
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Speaker 1: of people have him going number seven in the mocks

489
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Speaker 1: they do. I haven't seen Watkins fall that far? Is

490
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Speaker 1: that what's gonna have seen him in a lot of mocks? Yeah?

491
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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, if they get If they get that,

492
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: that's a pretty potent duo. The shade of it, to

493
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Speaker 1: the shame of it though, as well, is that if

494
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Speaker 1: you put Vincent Jackson and a motivated head on straight

495
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Speaker 1: Mike Williams, that's pretty nice one to punch. But I

496
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Speaker 1: guess that's asking too much. He seems to be to

497
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Speaker 1: punch that got Josh Freeman fired. I would say, um,

498
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Speaker 1: you know, powerful lesson going forward. For all NFL teams,

499
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Speaker 1: do not draft wide receivers named Mike Williams. They're over

500
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Speaker 1: to now anybody named Mike Williams. Yeah, yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 1: All right, before you gentlemen leave me, I want to

502
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Speaker 1: throw it back to the gold Standard and Zach we

503
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Speaker 1: have Dave. It's it's very nice to have him in studio.

504
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Speaker 1: And thank you again Dave for joining us. Yes, great,

505
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Speaker 1: it was a great booking for us. We're very excited.

506
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna play a game, one of the great

507
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Speaker 1: games of the A t L podcast, And we're gonna

508
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Speaker 1: be doing another one later in the week when West's

509
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: Toasters back West putting it all on the line again.

510
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Speaker 1: But right now, the gold Standard, what are we playing?

511
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Speaker 1: We are playing why from Culver City, California. It's America's

512
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: favorite game show. More all right, gentlemen, what's more likely

513
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Speaker 1: Terrell Prior wins a future starting job or Matt Shob

514
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Speaker 1: is the Raiders quarterback for three to four years, as

515
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Speaker 1: Dennis Alent said Friday, Oh easily, Terrell Prior absolutely. How

516
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Speaker 1: can match shop three or four years. Listen, if you

517
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Speaker 1: are in the Raiders front office, you the two thousand

518
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: thirteen season never happened. That is how they're operating. Dennis

519
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: Allen said on Sunday that he said over the past

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Speaker 1: six or seven years, Matt Schob has been one of

521
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Speaker 1: the top ten quarterbacks in the league. Never happened in Oakland.

522
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Speaker 1: Everything's in play. I hate that I had to keep

523
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Speaker 1: making this front office like my whipping boy. But how

524
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Speaker 1: do you go from deciding that Carson Palmer is no good,

525
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Speaker 1: We'll get rid of him for nothing, but bring us

526
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Speaker 1: match Shop. Yes there's our answer. Yeah. I mean, if

527
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Speaker 1: the offensive line is going to be a question, then

528
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Speaker 1: you cannot have match Shob and expect him to to

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Speaker 1: be terribly productive. You know the thing when he was

530
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Speaker 1: with the Texans, and he did, and I think he

531
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Speaker 1: quickly became a punch line in given the high hopes

532
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Speaker 1: and everything else for the team. But you know, it

533
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Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago Matt Shob was putting up, at

534
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: least in fantasy terms, some great numbers. He was. He was,

535
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Speaker 1: you know, he was a quietly very good fantasy player. Um.

536
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Speaker 1: But I mean at this stage of his career, and

537
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Speaker 1: like I said, with a bad offensive line and who's

538
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Speaker 1: catching the passes there in Oakland three or four years

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Speaker 1: are you kidding me? No chance I'll take Prior. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you think Prior will be a starter? You mean

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Speaker 1: win a week one gemet get you said in the

542
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Speaker 1: future in so that could But I mean I think

543
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Speaker 1: it's on the unlikely side, but it wouldn't be a shock.

544
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Speaker 1: Where is shob massed lasting another three or four years

545
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: would truly shock me? Yeah? I mean, I listen Terrell Prior,

546
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Speaker 1: when you watch him throw a football, he does not

547
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Speaker 1: he does not say, um, number one option in on

548
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Speaker 1: an NFL team. But that's more likely than match shop

549
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: for three years. Please whatever, you guys, just throwing him

550
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Speaker 1: out there. I feel like I got a little personal there.

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Speaker 1: What about Terrell Prior versus Mark Sanchez winning a starting gig?

552
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Speaker 1: Which is more likely? What more likely? It's a good one? Uh?

553
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: Troll Prior. I think Sanchez has some stink on him

554
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Speaker 1: that Prior doesn't West neither. I don't think either one's winning.

555
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: It comes down to which quarterback in front of them

556
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Speaker 1: gets hurt first. It just goes to show. It's an

557
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: old point, but but worth repeating. It is amazing six

558
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Speaker 1: billion people walk this earth. They can't find thirty two

559
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Speaker 1: guys to play quarterback and do it well. It's remarkable.

560
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Speaker 1: We're talking about Matt schob and Brian Hoyer and Terrell

561
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Speaker 1: Pryor and Matt Castle and p and you and I

562
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Speaker 1: mean Carson Palmer When you get down to it is

563
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Speaker 1: at least one of the what the top sixteen or

564
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Speaker 1: so let's fix on the face of the earth. Let's

565
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Speaker 1: flip this around. If they found thirty two quarterbacks, then

566
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: you would be saying, you mean to tell me six

567
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: billion people and we can't find enough guys to play

568
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Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. All right, we'll get to that

569
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: when the when the when we when we solve this

570
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Speaker 1: quarterback conundrum. Here's another one. What more likely Richie Incognito

571
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Speaker 1: signs with an NFL team this offseason or Jared Allen

572
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Speaker 1: signs with an NFL team this offseason? Jared Allen by

573
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Speaker 1: a lot. I don't think Incognito ever plays again. Speaking

574
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: of the Raiders, I feel like they're looming potentially in

575
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Speaker 1: the mix for for Incognito. Oh, I don't think anyone's

576
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Speaker 1: gonna sign him. I I would be surprised if anyone

577
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Speaker 1: brought in Incognito. I mean, I've declared that I'm with

578
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Speaker 1: West there's no way he plays in the NFL. And

579
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Speaker 1: and that comes from somebody I've always laughed. I mean,

580
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Speaker 1: when Michael Vick was trying to re enter the league,

581
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: and they would you know, people would do interviews with GMS,

582
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Speaker 1: and they would say, hey, there's this young man. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No one's gonna touch this guy with a

584
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Speaker 1: ten football? Well can he play? Is? I mean? Is

585
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Speaker 1: is he a potential huge difference maker? Then I'm not

586
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Speaker 1: concerned that there will be a spot form in the

587
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: NFL at this point. Richie Incognito is not good enough

588
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Speaker 1: to be worth the potential headache and the PR nightmare

589
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: and everything else. That's what it comes down to is

590
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: is well, will he contribute? Yeah, then we can look

591
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: past everything else. Richie Incognito is not some all pro lineman.

592
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: Trying to find a guard isn't nearly as hard as

593
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: trying to find a guy with Michael Vick's talent at quarterback?

594
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: What more likely? All right, what's more likely? Actually? Wes

595
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: you had one? Right? Yeah, this goes back to your

596
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: quarterback question, like that, what's more likely by Halloween Mark

597
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Sanchez has started a game for an NFL team or

598
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Matt shob has been benched for ineffectiveness at least once

599
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: by Halloween. By Halloween October one, I think it's more

600
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Speaker 1: likely that job is benched. I think that Mark Sanchez

601
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: will start a game for the Oakland Raiders when Matt

602
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: shob gets benched. Take that. I don't know, listen, I

603
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but you know, by you know,

604
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Speaker 1: as a side note, you reminded me of something. Isn't

605
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: it weird? What is it with the Oakland Raiders front

606
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: office and their obsession with quarterbacks named Matt? It's weird.

607
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: Matt McGloin, Matt Show, Matt Linertner, and there's another one

608
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: to Matt Flinn, Matt Flinty, Matt Welcome, who is decent? An?

609
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: I think we finally cracked the Reggie Mackenzie code. There

610
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Speaker 1: you go. That's who's out there. Matt Hasselbeck. You're up.

611
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Speaker 1: You've just named all of the quarterbacks signed or acquired

612
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Speaker 1: by Reggie mackenzie except the one who we drafted in

613
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Speaker 1: the fourth round and cut before he even made it

614
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Speaker 1: out of trading camp. Tyler Wilson. Yep, really the strongest

615
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Speaker 1: resume there. No, let's give him a chance. It's been

616
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Speaker 1: a little rocky for Reggie. Do you have another one?

617
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Speaker 1: Was more likely? Let's go running backs. Two guys out

618
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Speaker 1: there available, Maurice Jones, Drew, Chris Johnson. What's more likely?

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Speaker 1: Chris Johnson rushes for a thousand yards through his new home,

620
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Speaker 1: or Maurice Jones drew let's say seven hundred yards in

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Speaker 1: his news mm hmm. I think c J two K

622
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: will get starter workload uh, at least in his first

623
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Speaker 1: year wherever he lands. I think I could see him

624
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Speaker 1: getting over two hundred carries. UH might take two fifty

625
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: to two hundred and sixty to get him to a thousand.

626
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Speaker 1: Right at this stage of the game, I think he's

627
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: more likely to go over a thousand. I think he

628
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: still has something in the tank. Put him in a

629
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Speaker 1: good spot. He can still have some nice years left.

630
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Speaker 1: M J D could end up on a depth chart

631
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Speaker 1: where he's sharing the ball three other two other guys. Yeah,

632
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Speaker 1: I I I agree with that. I'd say Chris Johnson

633
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: has the chance for redemption and rising like a phoenix

634
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 1: if he gets to the right spot. Where is that spot?

635
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: That's the question, though it's it's hard to the guy.

636
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: I know it's an old story at this point that

637
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: you know, two thousand yards is is uh pretty long ago.

638
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: But um, you know, has anybody ever had such a

639
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: fall from Grace who put up one of the all

640
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: time statistically one of the all time great rushing seasons.

641
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: Who who fell off that fact? Wow? And he got

642
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: hurt and then and then I know there O. J.

643
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: Simpson had some trouble down the line after his two

644
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: thousand yards season. Somewhere I heard, yeah, I heard Jim Jamal. Yeah.

645
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Now wait now that we're

646
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: going through, if has anybody not gotten into trouble with

647
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: two thousand yards? Everybody Kerson fell into. He got into

648
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: that hole. I mean, it's it's quaint now as we

649
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: look back at it. What he wanted more money and that,

650
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, but he was such a villain at the

651
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: time that he forced himself basically out of l A

652
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: to go to the Colts. But remember what a stink

653
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: there was on him for doing that. Wow, if you

654
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: rush for two thousand yards, that's pretty much the believe

655
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: this to be true that if any running back who's

656
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 1: rushed for two thousand yards, out of all that group,

657
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: nobody has rushed for fifteen hundred the next year, not

658
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: not even a p couldn't do it last year. That's rilled.

659
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: Davis blew out his knee in Week four. The year

660
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: after he did it, Ver Sanders came very close. I

661
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: believed something. Um, Chris Johnson, we say fall from grace.

662
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: But there's no other running back in the NFL active

663
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: who has rush for a thousand yards every year of

664
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: his career and hasn't missed a game in five years. Wow,

665
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't he be a good fit in Atlanta? For instance?

666
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: I do. I like it a lot. Stephen Jackson still

667
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: in the picture there with Chris Johnson. I think you

668
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: can pay both. I mean, that would be awesome in

669
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: two thousand nine. Imagine though, being being a running back

670
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: who is right now three ish, this premise that was

671
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: set up for you when you were about eleven as Wow,

672
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: you got wheels, you're tough, you got the wiggle. Hey hey, junior,

673
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: stick with this man, and you're gonna be a multi

674
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: millionaire playing pro football. And in a decade. It's just

675
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: that's all been a race. There's no you know there,

676
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: there's nothing that that gets turned over more quickly and

677
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: is less highly regarded almost anywhere on the football field,

678
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: almost any position you can name. Running back is so

679
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: diminished the way we consider it. And we can just

680
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: roll some guys through here. Mama's don't let your babies

681
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: grow up to be running I didn't always used to

682
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: be that way. Dave Damashek, thank you very much for

683
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: coming by to visit you around the League podcast. What

684
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: a pleasure, it's uh, it's always an honor to get

685
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: Dave in the studio. West. Did you enjoy it, Yeah,

686
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: it was all right. It was only so so from

687
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: for I mean, I enjoyed it, But I feel like

688
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: I didn't match wits with you guys as well as

689
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I could have, maybe because maybe because I was I

690
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: was lost looking at Hansus and his kabuki makeup. All right,

691
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: that's it, gentlemen and West, you can go home. Now.

692
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to call up the men in Orlando, but

693
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: you don't have to be there for that. You have apartments.

694
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: Look at Zarina's to speak with you. Quick quick trivia

695
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: for you football fellas. I talked to Steve Maryucci the

696
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: name drop, and I bring that up because I like

697
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: to name drop. I was just talking with the moments

698
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: ago and uh, he told me he once coached a

699
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: USFL team in Orlando. Quickly, can you name that team?

700
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: The Predators? Yeah? Now pretty close, Browlers, Prowlers, Growlers. Name

701
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: that would be for a team. No, the Michigan Panthers.

702
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: They won the first title. Anthony Carter and Bobby aber

703
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Um the it was the Orlando Renegades. That sounds like

704
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: a movie. That's a movie name. I'd rather go. Yeah,

705
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: that's like the Miami Sharks. Any movies that don't have

706
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: the NFL licensing are usually doomed. And you like games,

707
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: and I know you gotta go real fast do it though?

708
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: I like I like to see who can go back

709
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: and forth and back and forth? Hands who starting with

710
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: you on your market? Said? Go USFL teams? Hand zoos,

711
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: you start one the USFL. You can't name one USFLA

712
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Right now? The USFL was a legitimate league.

713
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: This was no XFL. Hold my favorite us team name

714
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: the Memphis show Boats. Yeah, the show both locomotives. One. No,

715
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't Houston Gamblers. Reggie Reggie White was on the

716
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Memphis show Boats as Donald Trump and said small potatoes,

717
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Boston Breakers, New Orleans Breakers, Portland Breakers, Nsburgh Mallers, Bandits,

718
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: the Yeah, the Tampa Bay Band, the Michigan Panthers, the

719
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Stars slash Baltimore Stars, the Oakland Invaders who at

720
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: the Arizona Wranglers who traded their entire franchise, front office

721
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: and everything to the Chicago Blitz, a full franchise swap.

722
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: The only thing that stayed where the uniform. How can

723
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: you take a league like that? Seriously? Yeah, that's exactly right.

724
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: Traded the Colts to Jim Mercy, to Robert Ersey and

725
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: took the Rams. They just swapped franchise the Houston with

726
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly. How about that? There were so many good

727
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: players and there are guys who would be in the

728
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame if it weren't for the USFL, Guys

729
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: like Joe Cribbs who went to the Birmingham Stallions. There

730
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: was Calvin Bryant went to the Stars. How about a

731
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: guy named herschel Walker with the New Jersey Generals. Absolutely

732
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: his best years spent in eighteen game seasons taking a

733
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: pounding with those Generals along with Doug Flutie. Imagine if

734
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: he would have played gone straight to the NFL Hall

735
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: of Fame for that? Are you impressed by my ability?

736
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm impressed that I you know, you kind of showed

737
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: me up at the end of your visit here that

738
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna apologize to you for knowing about about USFL.

739
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: It was on in the summertime. I would not take

740
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: on damage check and win West his toaster if it

741
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: was only USFL. T thank you all right, all right, gentlemen,

742
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us moving on the gold standard

743
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: behind the glass. We have our two gentlemen out in

744
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: Orlando covering the NFL annual meeting, the owners meeting in Orlando.

745
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: Is it possible to at them on the phone? Now? Yeah?

746
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: I got them right here. Ah, you're very good at

747
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: your job. Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler? Are you there?

748
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: We are here? Hello. Wow. We are huddled around a

749
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: speaker phone in the JW marryat overlooking a number of

750
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: beautiful pools for children to swommen. Wow. That sounds pretty nice,

751
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: I gotta say. I mean you do take away this

752
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: the illusion of grandeur with technology for the NFL, huddled

753
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: around like a speaker phone. Well, we're in, by the way,

754
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: We're in Greg's room and he was given a view

755
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: out the window, which is about thirty five times more

756
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: alluring than what I realized I was given. So what

757
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: did the Sissler get. The Sizzler got essentially one of

758
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: those when you look out a window in an apartment

759
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: and you just see a wall. Yeah, well, you know

760
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: what mark you're getting that you're not the boss. When

761
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: you're the boss, you get that kind of stuff. Those

762
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: parts are we really complaining about when when we were

763
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: at the Risk Carlton or whatever. And it is a

764
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: whole another rent district that we will never be part

765
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: of unless we were, you know, asking questions that people

766
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: don't want to answer to at the place. All right,

767
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: so let's let's get into it then. Um, you gentlemen,

768
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: were sent by the League shadowy League figures sent to

769
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: the two of you from the Around the Louis Crew

770
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: to cover this event. So you're now one day in.

771
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: If you could tell us a little bit, what are

772
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: you seeing sights and sounds? Having been in Orlando for

773
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: a little over twenty four hours now, I think, you know,

774
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: for Greg and I both having never been here, and

775
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: it is it's a little bit more of a free

776
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: flowing event where for us we didn't know how to

777
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: attack it initially, and we were even asking some of

778
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: the other writers that we knew well and they kind

779
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: of said, today you sort of just lurk. It's it's

780
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: a lot of very wealthy owners and it's all the

781
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: coaches and general managers who are essentially on vacation with

782
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: their families, and it would be like getting to vacation

783
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: and finding people that you really didn't like from at

784
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: the same residency. And so suddenly they come out of

785
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: a doorway and there's a bunch of krusty beat writers

786
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: and there's us trying to, you know, pester them with questions.

787
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: So they're annoyed to some degree off the bat challenge.

788
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like imagine this. So is it a

789
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: situation where Mike Tomlin like comes out of an elevator

790
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: and his two little girls. Hypothesthetically speaking, we're wearing like

791
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: bubbles on their arms. They go into the swimming pool

792
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: at this hotel and you're you're ambushing them to get

793
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: thoughts on Jason World's because right next to where the

794
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: meeting is happening, there is there is a gigantic room

795
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: literally for wags NFL, and then there's a room next

796
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: to that that's like a playroom for kids, and the

797
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: place is surrounded by like human checkers board scenarios and

798
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: pools where it's just kids swimming and running in and

799
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: out of the hotel. And I mean they're not, you know,

800
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: in our face, but it's so clear that we have

801
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: interrupted what otherwise would be a delightful get away for

802
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: these people. Some are more open, asking, answering some questions,

803
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: and others. Plenty of people are very nice. Jim Harbas

804
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with the media today. I

805
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: talked with him, and then others are clearly less interested in.

806
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: Mark generally approaches them anyways, even if they're like waiting

807
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: for attacks outside the hotel. As we know, Sessler is

808
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: the great intrepid reporter of the around the league ranks.

809
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: And I got a text from you, Sizzler, regarding one

810
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: NFC South coach about one interaction you had. Well, uh,

811
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: you know, they were bum rushing out of this room

812
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: and I tried to grab Sean Payton. I said, you know,

813
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm from NFL dot com. Can I get you for

814
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: like maybe literally fifteen seconds? And he paused and like

815
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: a father putting his hand on a small child's shoulder,

816
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: which was me, He just put his hand on my

817
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: shoulder and said how about later, pal, and just walked off.

818
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: You know, generally, the reception we got, we were able

819
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: to get, we were getting some people answer my question

820
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: a lot of rejection, So it does remind you a

821
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: little bit of like asking girls out when you're they're

822
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: out of your league. But plenty of people talk to us.

823
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: We talked to Jim Harby, talked to Jake Gruden. Uh,

824
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: we talked to a decent amount and it really picks

825
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: up tomorrow and just seeing everything is fascinating because as

826
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: much as the owner the coaches are around at the combine, here,

827
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: it's all almost under one roof. There's two hotels right

828
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: next to each other, and so really everywhere you walk

829
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: and turn, there's a general manager, an owner, or a coach.

830
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: So it's a surreal experience. Let me ask you guys

831
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: through Monday, what's kind of the most surprising or the

832
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: most interesting takeaway each of you had? I think for me, honestly, Uh,

833
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: I was able to get into a group with Reggie

834
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: mackenzie where they're only two or three of us way

835
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: down this hallway, and after the off season that he's

836
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: had the kind of reception, the up and down reception

837
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: from the media towards him, how open and honest he

838
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: was with answering questions and honestly a pretty funny guy.

839
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: And like definitely a smart guy. So I really hadn't

840
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: had a chance to speak to him one on one

841
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: before ever, and he came across very well and honestly

842
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: pretty controlled of his whole situation with Oakland. It's a

843
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: good thing that Wes is no longer in the studio.

844
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: He'd probably somehow find a way to denigrate the man. Yeah,

845
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: and I think it would be good for the two

846
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: of them to sit down and maybe have a tea

847
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Speaker 1: or a coffee. What about you, Greg, Mark Dave to

848
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: jump out, Mark was saying Mark Davis is all over

849
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: the place here and is talking a lot. And Mark

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00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: spoke with Mark Davis in a group today and the

851
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: whole l A Oakland Raiders thing seems to be cranking up.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to get too deep into that. My

853
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Speaker 1: Probably the biggest surprise was that all the NFL owners

854
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Speaker 1: and coaches and gm still have to sit through what

855
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Speaker 1: is essentially a corporate presentation at an annual meeting that

856
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Speaker 1: is really well done, but it's ultimately probably like the

857
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Speaker 1: annual meetings at every corporate event. So these billionaires are

858
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Speaker 1: seeded to start the entire meeting for sixty minutes listening

859
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Speaker 1: to Roger Goodell and then a number of different people

860
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Speaker 1: from the NFL make a presentation and we we managed

861
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: to find our way into that. We can't really on

862
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Speaker 1: what went down in there, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: it was kind of like a very corporate thing that

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Speaker 1: most companies would have, except unbelievable production values, Like they

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Speaker 1: had a locker for all thirty two teams with a

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Speaker 1: jersey and it and just everything was just so well

867
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Speaker 1: done and they you could tell they had rehearsed it

868
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Speaker 1: many many times. Well, sorry, Dan, the Jets locker actually

869
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Speaker 1: had no jersey. I think they couldn't pinpoint a player

870
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Speaker 1: they wanted to focus on. That's the glacier. That's the glacier.

871
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: You know. It was showing the highlights for the entire season.

872
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: Was six minutes of it. There was a lot of

873
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Speaker 1: other presentations about different parts of the company in the business,

874
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: but part of it was just reviewing the season for

875
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Speaker 1: six minutes on a monstrous screen that was bigger than

876
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Speaker 1: if you went to the movie theaters that sort of screen,

877
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Speaker 1: And there's John Fox and John Elway sitting right there

878
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Speaker 1: in the audience watching their team get devastated. The Seahawks

879
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Speaker 1: in New York. You know, I imagine going sneaking into

880
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: like one of these rooms with all these owners, and

881
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy has them maybe standing on top of

882
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: the ladder and doing one of those trust falls back

883
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: into like Robert Kraft's arms or something like that. I

884
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: think you're far off. I honestly don't, because we that

885
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: was the six minutes that we saw. But then there

886
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: they are transported into behind closed doors for eight or

887
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Speaker 1: nine hours. You know something's going on. And before before

888
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: let you, gentlemen go, I know there's an open bar

889
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: event involved somewhere in Orlando that I'm sure you'll be at. Um.

890
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell spoke today, you guys also set in for that, correct, Yeah,

891
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: we did, and Rich McKay and Jeff Fisher also spoke.

892
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: Really the if there's gonna be any sizzle in terms

893
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: of the rules that will be past this week, it's

894
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: gonna come in the next two days. For now, they're

895
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: just presenting and talking about the issues at a very

896
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: low level. But they're not really going back and forth

897
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: and they're not debating and uh voting on it, So

898
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot to come from that. I don't

899
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Speaker 1: think there's gonna be instant replay. I don't think there's

900
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna be any changes there. I think a lot of

901
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: the Patriots proposals will basically be shot down. But I

902
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: do think the goalposts are gonna be raised. I think

903
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: the future. We can talk about that later in the

904
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Speaker 1: week when when we find out. But let's the most

905
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: important thing. What about will the Indianapolis Colts be allowed

906
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: to open their dome if the weather permits or something?

907
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: That topic will be tabled until actually that ain't right. Um, alright, fellas,

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking a few minutes out of your

909
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: busy days in uh in Orlando, and you will be

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Speaker 1: back with us when we do our next podcast. We'll

911
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Speaker 1: be doing our next podcast on Thursday this week. Listeners,

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00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: by the way, and the Gentleman will be jet lagged

913
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Speaker 1: and with us because there is no off season with

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Speaker 1: Around the League. Thanks fellas, We miss you, miss you too.

915
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: Mark mentions it often how much you miss with you.

916
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: Oh that's sweet. Well, you know you know how I feel.

917
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: I try to hug the guy. All right, guys, Yeah bye,

918
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Speaker 1: that's it for Monday's episode of the Around the League podcast.

919
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Speaker 1: We will be back because I just said on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: This week, we're gonn mix it up a little bit

921
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Speaker 1: because we wanted to have the full team together and

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Speaker 1: Mark and Greg won't be back in California until Thursday,

923
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Speaker 1: so hang tight and just enjoy this show until then. Um,

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Speaker 1: the gold Center behind the Glass, we're gonna have a

925
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: full house. You like that better, right? Oh yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Even though it was great having Dave on the show

927
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Speaker 1: today and whenever we mix it in, having the heroes

928
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Speaker 1: altogether is what we're about it. There's some magic. Do

929
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Speaker 1: you actually see any kind of magic? Like pixie halo stuff?

930
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Speaker 1: Luckily to protect me from the flurry of glitter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's great. This is ridiculous chatter. Um, all right, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for listening. You will hear from us

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Speaker 1: again on Thursday. This is Dan Hansis signing off for

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Speaker 1: the mail man for Dave Dama check for the gold

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Speaker 1: Standard behind the Glass and our two friends in Florida

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Speaker 1: until