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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Hary with you on a brand new

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Speaker 1: episode of Chargers Weekly or one week away the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one NFL Draft. Please be joined by the voice

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Speaker 1: of the Chargers, Matt Money Smith Money. It's been about

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Speaker 1: four months. A little bit has changed in Chargers Land,

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Speaker 1: my friend. How you doing, I'm doing great. A lot

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Speaker 1: has changed in Chargers Land, and I think, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're we're part of the organization, a small, tiny part,

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Speaker 1: but so maybe we're biased, but man, I could not

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Speaker 1: be more excited. I am so impressed with this coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: And could you know all the zoom calls we've been

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Speaker 1: on with with Coach Staley, with the coordinators, I mean

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Speaker 1: even getting to Coach Slinton, and you know, just special

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Speaker 1: and how they're going to Jose special teams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it really is an exciting time. Coach has given us

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Speaker 1: a lot of material. I think the first presser was

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Speaker 1: like ninety five ninety six minutes give us an hour.

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Speaker 1: Last week you mentioned the coordinators, a young coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: a lot of up and coming coaches on this staff. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I've talked about the draft in about one hundred or

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Speaker 1: one different ways of the last two months. Just what

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Speaker 1: could the Chargers do, What positions we're going to target.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the draft, but just your overall thoughts

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Speaker 1: on what they've done the last couple of months, specifically

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Speaker 1: in free agency. Obviously, offensive line was priority A, getting

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Speaker 1: Corey Linsley in here and then a pair of talented

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Speaker 1: you heard Coach Staley, and you know kind of what

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Speaker 1: we've seen from from Tom to leasco repeatedly throughout free

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Speaker 1: agency is to time doesn't necessarily go for that big splash,

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Speaker 1: that big name. It's it's always seems to be value.

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Speaker 1: And when you see kind of those free agency draft

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Speaker 1: or those free agency grade shows, it seems like the

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Speaker 1: Chargers always do really well those that they find players

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Speaker 1: that they sign for good value that Phil needs, and

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Speaker 1: I think they did that. You know, Corey Linsley, you know,

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Speaker 1: you get that anchor, and you know how important center

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Speaker 1: can be on that offensive line. It can really change everything,

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Speaker 1: especially with a young quarterback, to have someone that's widely

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Speaker 1: out with protections and shifts and bring the rest of

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Speaker 1: that line along. That's going to help immensely. I think

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Speaker 1: if we project that Brian Blague is going to be healthy,

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Speaker 1: he's had healthy campaigns throughout his career. So let's project that,

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Speaker 1: and then you add in Filer and Abushi if he's

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Speaker 1: a starter. And look, I hate saying it because we

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Speaker 1: know the guys, but this was probably the worst offensive

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Speaker 1: line in the league last year and Justin Herbert threw

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Speaker 1: for forty three hundred yards and thirty one touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: fifteen games. So you're gonna upgrade four the five spots,

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Speaker 1: you know, going into twenty twenty one, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: where my philosophy on the draft shifts a little bit

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Speaker 1: the moves on the offensive line. I think you've upgraded

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Speaker 1: upgraded at right tackle, and now you know, in coach

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Speaker 1: Staley even said it about the left tackle position. Keeping

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Speaker 1: Michael Davis was clearly huge, and I think and listening

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Speaker 1: to how listening to coach Staley explain how he wants

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Speaker 1: his corners to play kind of made sense. Why Casey,

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Speaker 1: why they moved down with Casey, you know, regardless of

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Speaker 1: how much you know, we all appreciate him and loved

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Speaker 1: him as a guy and a player, and how good

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Speaker 1: And even Coach Staley said, left tackle still something they're

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Speaker 1: at the top of everybody's list following free agency. But

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Speaker 1: but I do think they got better most definitely the

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Speaker 1: team got better through free agency and a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: A note a free agency isn't done yet. There's still

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Speaker 1: I know he's young, and he's developmental project. But I

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Speaker 1: to make this, you know, shift this from a developmental

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Speaker 1: didn't sound like they were too comfortable with that idea

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Speaker 1: I think that's why so many people. And look, we

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Speaker 1: to take shots at them, but you know, you and

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Speaker 1: I named names, Buddy named names. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: just we we get to see it. I get to

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Speaker 1: effort goes into scouting these players from DJ just on

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Speaker 1: scouting these players is not as simple as aggregating what

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Speaker 1: I like Garrison and I liked having. If you don't

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Speaker 1: draft Jenkins at thirteen, they don't know what the hell

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Speaker 1: they're talking about, the great majority of them, and each

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Speaker 1: of these teams they know what they're doing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they have their scouts who've been doing this forever. Right,

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Speaker 1: Their boards are gonna look different from a mock draft

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Speaker 1: You know what they're doing. They have a planned, they

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Speaker 1: The Chargers select thirteen. Overall, they have nine picks, but

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Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the next seven player. Right, So

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Speaker 1: if you get five, you got eight, and that's what

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Speaker 1: And you know, and look, there's first round grades on

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Speaker 1: certainly more than the eight players and five quarterbacks. But

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Speaker 1: talking about guys like you know what, like Micah Parsons, right,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what Staley is exactly looking for. Obviously

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Speaker 1: there's a potential need a corner, but there could be

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Speaker 1: or our scouts, it does sound like it's those eight

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Speaker 1: to be an elite interior lineman. Unfortunately doesn't measure out,

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Speaker 1: Just take him. I mean we saw what, like I said,

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Speaker 1: already been upgraded. It's already been upgraded in three of

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Speaker 1: So if you don't get your left tackle there, get

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Speaker 1: Villaine Wave is still out there. Our old friend Russell

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Speaker 1: think secondary depth, offensive line depth, we've already addressed that.

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Speaker 1: That's that's must have. But I think wide receivers being overlooked.

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Speaker 1: I think people are excited because you know, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: t Billy and Giton and they certainly flashed UM. But

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Speaker 1: I think you need to find that full time third. UM.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Guydan. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: Johnson or Guy And I just don't I don't quite

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Speaker 1: I think they're more specialists, at least at this point,

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Speaker 1: you know, CONTI continue to develop. Certainly they took a

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Speaker 1: step last year. I think the question there is how

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Speaker 1: much of that is them? How much of that is

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Speaker 1: Herbert right where it's just hey, guys, you're fast, go

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Speaker 1: and let's just cross our fingers and hope you catch it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's what kind of a lot of that

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Speaker 1: explosive from the second he gets his hands on the ball.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, that's different. So I think there are some

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Speaker 1: of those players, you know, if you're looking for a

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Speaker 1: straight slot. I think so many people talk about how

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Speaker 1: successful Keenan was in the slot. Keena played outside most

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Speaker 1: of the year last year. You know, so if you

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Speaker 1: have someone like Elijah Moore some if he somehow slips

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Speaker 1: into that second round, or maybe a nice gadget, not

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say gadget, but a piece that kind of

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Speaker 1: Swiss army night piece and Rondel Moore to Purdue, you know,

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Speaker 1: a Canarius Tony where you can do all these different things.

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Speaker 1: You know that Sean McBay loves to do that pre

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Speaker 1: snap action up player like that I think would be

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Speaker 1: incredibly valuable. And you know, I brought it up when

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Speaker 1: we had Staley, you know, when we did the Staley

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Speaker 1: Zoom the last one, I said, kind of where you

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Speaker 1: go with your running back room because every single year

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Speaker 1: the last three years, they've had to sign someone during

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Speaker 1: the season that has not just provided depth, but has

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Speaker 1: had to play and has had to start. I think

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Speaker 1: we all know when Justin Jackson's healthy, he's darn exciting,

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Speaker 1: and we know what Eckler can do. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's probably important and you know what kind of talent

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Speaker 1: you can get at the running back position, you know

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Speaker 1: in the third and fourth round, you know, to go

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Speaker 1: with with Kelly and Jackson and Eckler, And so I

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Speaker 1: think that's something that that also needs to be addressed.

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Speaker 1: Interior tackle, interior defensive lineman, although it sounded like you

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Speaker 1: know they're going to move Tillery back to that interior spot. So,

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Speaker 1: like you said, edge, it's just it's a bad it's

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Speaker 1: a bad draft for edge. So I think that's probably

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Speaker 1: a lot of big swing, boom bust kind of deal

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Speaker 1: no matter what round you come in. So, um, look,

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Speaker 1: it's a the draft is deep in a lot of

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Speaker 1: positions that the Chargers are looking at right. It's deep

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Speaker 1: in the secondary, it's deep at offensive line, um so,

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Speaker 1: it's deep at receiver. Um so. I think it. I

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Speaker 1: think it lines up to be a really good year

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Speaker 1: for them to have all these picks. I love the

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Speaker 1: conversation and guess what, we have no idea what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. It'll know, we have not the slightest clue

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Speaker 1: with the Charges. An't gonna do it over third? No,

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Speaker 1: you know last year, I truly didn't. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: they were gonna take Herbert like I thought. It just

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Speaker 1: goes to show you what kind of a dope I am.

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Speaker 1: I was like, take Isaiah Simmons at six if you

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Speaker 1: get to it, and you know, and Herbert's you know,

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Speaker 1: put together arguably the greatest rookie quarterback season in the

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Speaker 1: history of the league. It's unbelievable. Yeah, we're talking to

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Speaker 1: Akuta Simmons, all these other potential options in six. I

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Speaker 1: think that has made the right move. Buddy, it's been

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Speaker 1: too long, man. I've always loved doing this with you,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get you back on here soon. What

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Speaker 1: do you got going off with the draft some stuff

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Speaker 1: at a draft. Yeah, we'll be on l just kind

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Speaker 1: of all the NFL digital platforms Thursday, Friday, Saturday. We'll

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Speaker 1: do the rap of each round. I'll do it with

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, who was a scout for the Seahawks and

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Speaker 1: the Panthers, and Lanzerline, who is his dad's an old

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Speaker 1: line coach. He's been doing scouting for twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: He writes all the bios, all those things you when

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Speaker 1: you google the name and type NFL next to it,

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Speaker 1: and every next synopsis that's Lance. He does about seven

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Speaker 1: hundred every year. So those guys are great. I just

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Speaker 1: helped move the thing along and try to find some

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Speaker 1: interesting conversations that they can have with one another after

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Speaker 1: each round. So we'll be doing that every day, and

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Speaker 1: then Sunday we'll have our Draft grade show on the

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Speaker 1: network and also on all those digital platforms. I'll be

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Speaker 1: tuned in. Thanks brother, you got a man anytime, and

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. A big thanks to

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Speaker 1: Matt money Smith for joining me, and of course thanks

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Speaker 1: to you all for listening. Be sure to download and

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the Chargers Podcast Network wherever you listen to

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Speaker 1: podcasts We're gonna have a special edition of Chargers Weekly,

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple of episodes throughout the weekend of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft, so stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, and until next time, I'm Chris

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