WEBVTT - 202: The Other Woman 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.720 Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Schondoland Audio in 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:34.000 partnership with iHeartRadio. Katie Well, oh man, here we go. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:40.800 We should like do this um Scandal Rewatch podcast Unpacking 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:46.640 the Toolbox and Katie Los Katie your last night, I 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:48.640 was thinking, do you go back just Katie Lows? Are 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.440 you Katie Los Shapiro? Are you hyspenated just Sucker's last name? 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.800 You said, Hell, no, I'm sucking Katie Lows. Bitch. You 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.400 know what I was in the Bear don't you? Who 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:03.520 know who I am? Anyway? Wow, Today we're talking about 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:08.200 episode two O two, Yes, The Other Woman, which aired 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:12.039 on October fourth in twenty twelve, written by Heather Mitchell 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:18.160 and directed by Stephen Crag. Yes. Yes, and the guest 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:22.959 star list is but we got to name it because 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:28.640 here on the Scandal Rewatch podcast we respect our guest stars. Yes, 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:34.240 because they're usually like pretty freaking amazing. Yeah. I mean 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:38.399 the first, main, big one is Lorraine Toussaint, who plays 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.200 Nancy Drake, who is just a wonderful actor. She's she's 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.080 one of those people that when you see her face, 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:45.360 so you see her in one thing, you're like, oh 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.480 my god, I've seen her in a thousand things, like 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.040 she's in so much, she's a she's from Trinidad. Nice 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:55.400 fun fact. Yeah, nice fun fact there. But yeah, she's amazing. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.800 And then we got a lease Neil and John deal 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.080 dial How do you say that? Maybe we'll just give 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.800 it a deal? Dial Dial Deal, John Deal, Dial deal. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.120 We got Leslie great and John Deal played ray Dwire. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:12.000 Who's Lindsay Dwyer's dad? Oh that I watched this episode 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.640 and now we're starting to get into the part of 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.040 the Scanal Rewatch podcast on packing the Toolbox where I 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:22.040 don't remember shooting that. No, really, I distinctly remember standing 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.080 with you outside of that motel. I remember that later 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.160 in the episode. Yes, we'll talk about I do not 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:32.000 remember shooting the scene with the dad. No, no, no, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.160 do you remember Do you remember the lady staring at 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.320 Quinn at Lindsay Dwyer? Yo? I wish we could have 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.760 gotten her name and given her a shout out because 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:46.359 homegirl is so freaking good and committed and annoying. Oh, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.440 she's just perfect for the role. How dare this Molotov 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.639 mistress a bitch? Come and sit in and have a 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:57.720 fucking coffee? In our small at a looma California town, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.880 with her omelet on her plate that she never touches. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.800 I wrote in my notes, is it a wig or 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.680 not a wig? Not a wig? It's not a wig. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.520 I do kind of remember that woman. The other people 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.079 we have is Leslie. Leslie Grossman is Lisa, who's the 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.560 DC Corner. She was amazing. Mark Espinoza's Chairman of Joint Chiefs. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.760 Greg Henry is Hollis Doyle. Deborah Mooney is Verna Thornton, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.040 who is constant recurring. Wendy Davis is Kimberly Mitchellson McMurray 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.360 is the US attorney Pat Wexler. Joe Holt, who's a 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.440 friend of mine, a Secretary of Defense Virginia Louise Smith 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.079 as Secretary of State. J Jackson is local anchor. If 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:39.280 y'all don't remember this episode, let's just jog ye old memory, 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:44.120 Ye old memory. Olivia has to deal with the ramifications 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.440 of Quinn's jaw dropping court verdict as Abby continues to 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.440 press Olivia for answers and Quinn takes a trip back home. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.040 The firm represents the widow of a very prominent pastor 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.120 who had a secret life with his mistress and son. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.840 Olivia works on striking a deal to keep Pastor Drake's 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.320 other life a secret before the funeral. Meanwhile, in the 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.200 White House, Cyrus and Fitz deal with a foreign policy 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.760 emergency that was potentially fabricated by the CIA. What the hell, dude, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.360 that was stupendous. I also think your scandal pace is 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.760 always so good because I understand what you're saying, like 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.880 you're putting the inflection on the correct word. Listen, I 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:24.880 thank you, But I always understand your scandal pace. So anyway, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.599 I have to admit sometimes I'm just not smart enough 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.400 for this show. And all of the CIA fabrication of 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.720 what was going on, I was like, wait, hold up, 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.960 he me twine they do that? I was like, Yo, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.039 I know, shit is corruptle, What the hell are they 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.600 just making a fucking photo of jed children in Sudan? 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.479 Is it because the dude that did it? What is he? 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.560 The head of the CIA? Is it because he's he 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.320 wants the president to go to war and he's a 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.479 Republican and he wants me? I don't know. I was 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.920 confused too. Well. Let it be known here that Garm 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.400 and I on this rewatch podcast. We don't completely understand 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.200 what's going on, which listen, listen. I feel like a 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.719 lot of the audience, our listeners will understand. And it's 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.719 okay because this show has so much in it that 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:17.159 it doesn't matters. Yes, But also, Katie, do you remember 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.680 ever being on set like and I'd be like, I 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.039 know me mostly I'd be like, Katie, I don't know 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.200 what's happening, Like, what's happening on the show, because yes, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:29.200 I remember we see the start of this episode that 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.360 Olivia and the President have started this relationship where they're 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:38.880 like old school fucking late night phone calls, yeah, where 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.200 they're just like talking about their life and Olivia's in 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.280 bed and she's like it can't keep teaking calls from 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.760 my married ex boyfriend. Yes, yeah, which is so cute. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.320 I think it's like so normal. Yeah, weird to see 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.200 them like normal. Like they're not at a white House dinner, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.200 they're not like on the trail, they're not doing any 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.359 of those things. They're literally just like talking on the 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.920 phone yea gossiping, right, They're just like like telling each 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.200 other's shit from their day and stuff. Yeah. It's okay, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.520 you know for those of those of us who were 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.600 a little on the older side. That's the way we 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.240 used to chat with our with the people we were 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.640 seeing or dating or whatever. You'd be on the phone 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.360 for freaking hours. Oh my god, Yeah, my parents got me. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.480 I mean, this is some boogie ass fucking white privilege 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.880 shit right here. My parents were my sixteenth birthday, I 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.960 think got me my own phone line. I got my 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.360 own fucking line because I think my parents found out 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.640 that it was like twenty five more cents, like a 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.919 fucking hour or whatever if they just gave me my 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.760 own phone, because I was clogging that ship up, Like 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.039 I was on the phone all day with bitches and 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.600 fucking night boyfriends. Like oh yeah, that's the way it 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.760 went down. Yeah yeah, Dearmo, you didn't have your own line, 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.440 noll No. We had one phone hanging in the hallway 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.839 of our New York City Washington Heights apartment with a chord. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.400 The only time it got bougie for us is when 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.280 my parents are like, We're like, we're going to buy 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:05.000 a longer core. I'd walk into like the bathroom and 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:09.360 close the door in the kitchen. You'd have to hawk 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.400 is a aa yep. I think this is the first time, 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.400 right Katie, that we see him. Yeah, I think this 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.080 is the first time we see you Hawk in AA. Yeah. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.360 I remember shooting the scene the AA scene because it 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.840 was like just a few blocks away from Sante Gower, 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.160 which is where the stage is where we shot Scandal, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.239 and it was like in the basement of a church, 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.920 if I'm not mistaken, and it was really cool. And also, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.840 you know, I was gonna I was gonna say too, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.840 I have a sort of a history with A because 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.640 my ex used to be in A But I used 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.520 to go to the meetings with him. And I'm not 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.080 an alcoholic. Well maybe i am, but no, just a 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.120 little bit. But I don't have a problem, no disrespect 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.000 with you. I no, no, no, no no. But you 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:58.480 have a personal relationship to being a Alana. Yeah yeah, right, right, 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.440 right right. But I used to go to the meetings 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.760 and get so much out of them, like I really 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.680 enjoyed because it's all about you know, very spiritual, yes, 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.520 and lifting the person up and giving them encouragement. It 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.800 was it was wonderful and I really got a lot 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.480 out of it. Those rooms are really really special and 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.280 so for you to get to stand there and talk 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.040 about fucking killing people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's why 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.360 I thought about me going to the meetings, because I 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.200 would go. But it wasn't about having an addiction. It 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.520 was I was just getting a lot more out of 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.600 it just for life in general. And so so huck 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.439 Is doesn't have an alcohol problem either, He's going because 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.640 he's you know, whiskey represents him killing people and torturing people. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.520 So I wonder if they would have done like a 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.600 like coverage of like with the people in the meeting, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.959 like what the fuck is this guy talking about? Because 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.040 he's like, I'm really good at drinking whist. I don't 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.720 think they ever flip it around. They never flip around, No, no, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.600 trist Yeah, but it was so interesting. Oh no, it 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.040 totally works. I actually I've never even realized it until 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.000 you just said that. Yeah, Quinn is being a stupid 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:07.440 bid bitch in Olivia's apartment and I'm like so mad, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.360 and so like, why is it anyone telling me anything? 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.360 Everyone messed up my life and no one's telling me why. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.959 And um, I mean, I don't know if other people 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.760 got that out of my performance, but I definitely felt 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:25.120 like nails on a chalkboard watching I think people felt 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.520 Winn's frustration, right. I love this sheet her line to 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:32.640 Olivia's like I got more sleep in prison. Oh, they 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.800 like tossed that away into a pillow because I doubt 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.640 my acting choice was at all good. Now I wasn't 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.800 in these scenes. But the episode features like the America's pastor, 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:47.600 Pastor Drake, who's incredible and obviously had this like very 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:53.800 public beautiful marriage to Lorraine Twusn's character Nancy Drake, but 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.800 the whole time, for fifteen years, he's been shipping this 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.960 other woman named Anna Gordon. But you find the episode 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.920 in like a classic Olivia Pope o pa handling the 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.559 situation where the wife calls they can't find Pastor Drake. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.800 You guys get led to a camera across the street 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.880 from the hay Adams Hotel, and you are in the 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:21.440 hotel and you hear like a whir and they open 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:25.679 the door and they find Pastor Drake on top o 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.679 top of his mistress and she's handcuffed to the bed, 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.480 and no one knows it first until Huk kind of 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.120 runs in and checks and knows, like right away the 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.160 guy's been dead and she's been like stuck under there 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.520 because the bro was like, yeah, home was a big boy. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.520 What I found so amusing was watching the episode and 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.200 the first thing that happens is huck rushes in checks 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.400 his pulse and he's like he's been dead for seven hours. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.120 Whatever the funk I said, And then Abby says something 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.760 in Olivia, and then there's a moment we're all just 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.480 standing there like, m what do we do now? And 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.240 the whole time watching the episode, I was like, this 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:04.480 girl is stuck under this large as man and nobody's like, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:08.520 there was no nobody in rush to be like, They're 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.280 just like, dude, to do I didn't. I'm gonna have 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:12.680 to go back and wash up because I did not 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.079 catch that at all. I love the part of this 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.080 scene is this this This is the scene where she's like, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:20.360 what do you need to do to get rid of 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.760 the body? And you're like and You're like, you're like lusty. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:29.000 You're like lusty, like describing all the tools in which 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.840 you would need to dispose of a body this big, 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.760 and she yes, I mean to just move the body. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:40.480 Oh yeah, oh well then just like and your body 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.600 some sheets, yeah or whatever. You're like, you're so psyched 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.440 that you were going to cut this dude up. Yeah, 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.600 but he's also super embarrassed, I think is he's like, 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.679 oh my god. They're like, oh my god, I'm so 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.760 fucked up. Yeah, Like clearly you clearly Huck knows he 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.400 has a problem because you're going to aa so like 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:02.559 you know that things are a rye in your mental health. Yeah, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.640 and he could feel himself, you know, slipping, yeah, and 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.760 going closer to the dark side. But yeah, that that 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.719 was such a great mind. Olivia's look to hook is like, motherfucker. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.280 I was talking about moving him, not chopping him up. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.320 So good, so good, but she's also like, you know, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.520 like there's the fright in her face, like, oh my god, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.480 this motherfucker was ready to talk him up in the 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:30.640 midst of this whole um montage about moving his body 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.520 because their goal is to like clean up the scene, 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.960 which is super illegal, and to get that body back 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.960 to in bed where he would live, like I mean, 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.280 so that they can sort of stage it, like keeping 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.480 his rep clean. That like if he's not found with 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.640 the hooker, but he's found that he just like had 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.240 a heart attack in bed, that it would be much 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.480 better for his look and his wife's reputation and his 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.079 legacy and all of that. But in the midst of 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.200 all these scenes, there's such a great scene between Dan 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.000 and Jeff oh so much, where he's yes, I hate 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.920 that I married a Republican. Yes, I want a baby, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.720 a fat one, a smushy one. Yes, it seems so cute. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.200 Oh it's so good. You know. I wrote down in 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.080 my notes that they they fight like a real couple. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.080 I mean, because we see couples on TV all the time, 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.000 and sometimes, you know, you kind of get the chemistry. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.640 Sometimes you don't. But I feel like, um, like Dan 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:30.040 and Jeff, like their chemistry was fire from the beginning, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:34.160 like they just it just clicked. But also Jeff, Jeff 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:35.959 and Dan. I was gonna say Jeff because Jeff is 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.599 a you know, as a straight man. He's married to 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:41.120 Linda Lowey, who was our casting director, and um, but 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.760 he Jeff is such an amazing, fucking skilled Like he's 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.000 one of those actors that just is no joke. He's 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.720 a genius. So I knew he was going to approach 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:56.839 this gay character with you know, just complete completely embracing 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.240 it and being as real as possible and not having 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.200 any hang ups about it. And that comes across, you 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.800 know what I mean, Like they really come across as 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.960 a real couple. They totally do. And I think I 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.679 think when we have a mom will have to ask him. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:12.360 But I'm pretty sure he's played gay characters multiple times 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.040 in his sure. I think, yeah, I think he's played that, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.959 like from his early twenties on. I think what's probably 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.240 weirdest for them is that, and I can't wait to 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.520 ask them about this, is that Jeff and Dan have 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:28.040 been real life friends for like town of years. Oh, 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.720 I didn't know that. I'm sure that do with that. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.200 It would be weird if you were a girl too, 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.600 But like they have to make out, you know what 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:40.720 I mean, Like like Linda cast Don Ruth. Dan Bougatinski's husband, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.440 Don Ruth is a big screenwriter and Linda cast his 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.440 movies like twenty years ago. They've all four been friends 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.240 for a very long time. Wow. And so I think 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.440 it was probably weirder than anything that, like Jeff, I'm 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.280 gonna have to make up with like a dear friend 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:03.240 of mine, you know, more than anything else. Oh, okay, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.080 what about this part? Who was it in the script 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.280 that all the OPA people use the same deodorant. Oh 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.120 my god, I wrote notes on that too, right. I 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.960 think they were trying to give the feeling on the 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.280 show that obviously they've been up all night and moving 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.800 this guy and they're probably sweating, and they're all passing 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:24.280 this deodorant. It's such an odd but like such an 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:28.040 odd but interesting moment. Yeah. Yes, and you're the only one. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.320 Huck is the only one that doesn't his dirty ass, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:31.920 and he's probably the one that needs it the most. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.600 I was like, what do you what are you doing? Like, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.520 put that ship under your arms. It's secret. We all 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.360 know how strong secret is. It won't pick up this 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.480 skankass ship from one person's arms another, Like I feel 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.680 like it's a secret magic about secret that like you're 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.320 gonna be fine, that is. I just loved it, Like 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.600 I thought it was so fulfilial and like we've been 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.920 up all night and we have no fucking boundaries. Yeah, 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.000 and there's no I love it. No one's even commenting 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.560 on this, like like, oh, it's just like happening while 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.200 you're working on the case. Yeah. And then we get 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.320 to oh I think this is when Quinn goes this here. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.200 Oh no, you come and you realize I'm gone and 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.880 I Quinn goes to see your dad, which I don't 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:24.280 remember shooting this scene. I don't remember this scene. John 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:31.280 John Deal Deal Dal Deal Dal Deal. Um, he's a 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.720 fucking dope actor. I love him. I love this. Oh yeah, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.920 he's been a ton of stuff. I looked up. I 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.320 looked him up on IMDb and IMDb and he's done 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.160 over one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty films 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.200 and TV shows. Yeah, way, yeah. Some of his credits 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.600 are escaped from New York. Me up, what's my number? 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:49.720 I haven't, but I'm going to write right after we 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:56.440 finish the podcast. Number is a shit. But in the meantime, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.120 John Deal Deal Dal Deal, Dude Dial. He was an 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.680 escape from the Orc. He was in Miami Vice, The 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.800 Outer Limits, X Files. Yeah. Anyway, he's been in a 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.960 ton of stuff and he was He's really great in 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.560 the episode you Know what's slowly coming back for me, 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.800 which is making me sad. What is I kind of 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:17.840 remember vaguely him saying like, oh, this is so great. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.639 I get cast as your dad. They're going to be 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:24.800 bringing me back a lot. You're so many, Katie, I 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.359 feel like so many actors and even me. I remember 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.480 saying that to some actors, like when they were casts, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.040 like a cut's girlfriend. I'd be like, oh my god, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.600 this is awesome. You're for sure coming back. And then 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.080 I'd be like, oh, they killed this bitch off. Oh good, Well, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:43.000 all your girlfriends had a pretty long run. You know. 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.520 Actors are so like, we have to be nomadic. That's 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:50.040 how it is. It's it's actually like unheard of to 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.400 stay in any one job for a long time, which 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.240 was why Scandal is such a unicorn. Yeah, but most 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.800 of the time that's not our story, and we go 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.200 where the wind takes us. I mean, I've been cut 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.239 out of so much fucking shit, and everyone has their 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.480 story of like they've been fired, and then there's like 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.159 amazing miracle stories like Bellamy Young, who I think was 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.920 always to do like three episodes in season one or something. Yeah, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.560 So you know, there's like ups and downs and it 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.880 is what it is. But I do remember the dad 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:23.960 being like, oh man, I think they're gonna call me back, 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.000 and I'm just like, fuck man, no, I don't. I 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.159 don't remember what I said, but probably not something that 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.159 made him feel any better. Um, go get a snack. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:41.760 And we'll be right back. Okay. Then what happens Guerremo? Well, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.880 how goes to check on Quinn? Is the next thing 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.359 that I have that sort of happens, right, yes, right. 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.439 Olivia's like, go check on Quinn because she was a 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.320 little bit jumpy this morning when you said Aslee better 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.480 in prison, all that stuff. Stuff to check on Quinn. 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:59.160 She's nowhere to be found. Yep, because I went to Petaluma, 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.919 California to visit my daddy to try to get back 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.879 to them in my normal life. We're ready at the 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.480 point where you're meeting up with your dad and and 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:12.440 Huck somehow miraculously shows up there and Quinn's like, what 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.480 the hell are you doing here? Like? Can I not 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.800 go anywhere without you? People like following me. I kind 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.320 of remember shooting that. I feel like I have photos 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.639 of that day that I have to find, right. But 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.320 Huck's like, you have such a beautiful monologue to me. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:31.119 But we're at some like Motel six where I feel like, 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.479 my god, you and I shot there like a thousand times. 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.920 I don't know why you kind of shot the season 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.520 one when you like abducted me and you had to, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.159 like I feel like you had to like throw me 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.560 over your shoulder, and I was like, I am so sorry. 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.720 Was that in season? Was that season one? Yeah? Maybe 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.520 it was when they do the flashback and like somebody's 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:55.119 like watching, Yeah, I think maybe even Susie Poorfar's characters 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.679 like standing outside of the motel and you see like 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:02.080 Huck take me away, and yes, I kind of remember 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.040 vaguely me being like, oh my god, I can't believe 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.919 you have to haul me over your fucking shoulder. Like 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.639 that was not safe. It doesn't matter how heavy or 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.480 light you are, that sh is not safe, not good 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.920 for a body. Okay, so you come and we have 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.000 this awesome scene at the motel where Huck is like 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.680 overcoming shoulders and he's like, this is where they took you. 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.080 And I'm like, something's I don't know what are you 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.040 talking about? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah that's what I say, 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.240 what are you talking And you say, no, this is 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.439 where they took you. Yeah. Seven people might have been 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.639 blown up that day in Citron, but it wasn't seven. 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.080 It was really eight eight that died. Yeah. I remember 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.560 shooting that scene Katie, and it was so hot. We're 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.480 shooting it in Hollywood a few blocks I think it 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.080 was a few blocks away from Sunset Gower. Again, it was, yeah, 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:49.720 that little sketchy as these motels for us on suns 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.199 Of Boulevard, where these little rent by the hour pieces 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:55.520 of ship. But it was so hot outside and they 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.720 war Job came to me with a jacket and I 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.280 remember being like, what you want me to put on 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.680 this jacket and they were like, yeah, you gotta wear 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.439 the jacket. And I remember just being so upset and 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.879 I fought back and forth. I was like, but he 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:11.679 could have left it in the car all that, and 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.200 they were like, no, you gotta put on the jacket. 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.080 We always did that shit where we would try to 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:17.560 talk to them and like I don't need a bag. 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:19.359 I don't need a bag. I have my shit in 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.640 my pockets, and they like, you have to wear a bag. Yeah, 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.439 I don't need a jacket. Quinn ran out of Opa, 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:27.520 she doesn't need a jacket and they're like, it is 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.400 put your jacket on in DC and no one will 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:34.639 believe it unless there's a fucking Wolpee coat on you exactly. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:37.600 But it was such a great Yeah, that was a 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.639 really really sweet scene. And then and then he hands 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:42.520 her a coffee and then they you know, and then 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.639 they cut to the next scene. I loved it. In 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:49.680 this episode, um quinn is saying goodbye to Lindsay Dwyer. Right. Yeah, 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.239 it's either like you accept this new life and this 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.800 new identity and jump both feet into working at OPA 0:21:55.960 --> 0:22:00.440 and stopping a little bit stop looking back, yeah, or 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.480 like leave but like you can't. This life that you're 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.760 running back to try to get doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:09.480 I was watching the show too and looking at that 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.040