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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Monday, October thirteenth. We are getting closer to

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Speaker 2: Halloween and it's getting scary out here in these NFL streets.

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Speaker 3: So that was pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are back, the Dolphins are imploating. By the

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Speaker 2: time you listen to this, will Aaron Glenn or Mike

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Speaker 2: McDaniel be fired. I don't know. A lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: happened in the NFL, and by the way, we did

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Speaker 2: see a firing. I'm obsessed with the James Franklin story.

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Speaker 2: He got run out of Penn State on Sunday after

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Speaker 2: the brutal loss to Northwestern. We will talk about that

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Speaker 2: on the back end. NFL wasn't super duper interesting Sunday.

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Speaker 2: A couple chaotic scories we'll get to. But the Franklin

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Speaker 2: Penn State thing is I mean, the buyout was over

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Speaker 2: fifty million dollars, just staggering numbers. But we'll start with

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Speaker 2: the NFL. We'll start with Sunday night. It was not

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Speaker 2: a super competitive game in the second half, but if

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Speaker 2: you listen to the podcast on Friday, you knew we

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Speaker 2: were on the Chiefs Kansas City beats up on Detroit

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Speaker 2: thirty to seventeen. I you know, tried to stay off

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Speaker 2: social media when the Chiefs are playing because the jabronis

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Speaker 2: come after me. You're a hater, You're a hater. Look

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Speaker 2: out great they are blah blah blah. Patrick Mahomes cooking. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: no shit, Sherlock, He's on my fantasy team. But this

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Speaker 2: was pretty dominant from them. Now again, when the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs are facing Jake Browning, okay, and when they're

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Speaker 2: facing Caleb Williams, when they're facing Dylan Gabriel, and I mean,

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Speaker 2: like the Lions stepped up to face one of the

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Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the history of the sport. Even though

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs have been reeling like this was an easy

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Speaker 2: layup for Kansas City. Now they had the great script

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Speaker 2: to drive, then the turnover on downs and there was

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Speaker 2: a couple tense moments where it looked like they weren't

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Speaker 2: totally clicking, and then in the second half they came

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Speaker 2: out and just boat raced him seventeen to seven in

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Speaker 2: the second half, And I didn't particularly think it was

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Speaker 2: that competitive. And listen, Kansas City look pretty sharp, and

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Speaker 2: now you got Rashi Rice coming back. I'll just poke

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Speaker 2: some holes just because that's what I do. I just

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Speaker 2: I cannot buy this, Zeeb, you're worthy. The chess piet

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Speaker 2: one carries six yards, two receptions twenty yards. Just stop

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Speaker 2: with He's not an elite receiver? Is he a nice

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Speaker 2: change of pace guy in space? Does he give you

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Speaker 2: more options? Of course? But this idea that he's transformed

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Speaker 2: the offense. No, I'm of the belief that the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: are playing this like the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Dude, the first one. Can you kind of tinker and

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Speaker 2: mess around? And let's be real. Kansas City was incorporating

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Speaker 2: a rookie left tackle and they had a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions on defense, which I think still remain. They had

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Speaker 2: a tough schedule right out of the gate. The healthy

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Speaker 2: Chargers are one of the best teams in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Then you have the defending champion Eagles, who don't look

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Speaker 2: as good as they did early in the season. You

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Speaker 2: had Jackson not Jackson Dart. They faced Russ Wilson, who's

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Speaker 2: been benched and Brian Dable wants something to do with him,

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Speaker 2: So that's not impressive. The Ravens win a nindsight doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean anything. Ravens lose again. They're one and five without

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. There where they you know. So I mean

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Speaker 2: I'm more of a game by game I don't just say, oh,

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Speaker 2: this just happened, so obviously they're fixed. Are they going

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Speaker 2: to beat Rob G's Raiders next week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think they'll be fine at home against the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: They have historically struggled against them. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: they will this time. After that Monday night football against

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Speaker 2: the Commanders and Jayden Daniels that's appointment television, and then

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Speaker 2: on a short week at Buffalo just like last year

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Speaker 2: and Josh Allen. So those two then lead them into

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Speaker 2: the by and remember they've still got this Denver team twice.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk about Denver. It's more about the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of the Cowboys, the

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Speaker 2: culture up in down, Texans up and down again. I'm

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Speaker 2: not backing off that this is still an eight win team.

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Speaker 2: Could they exceed that, of course they could, but based

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Speaker 2: on what I've seen, I mean, I didn't think the

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Speaker 2: defense was anything special last night. Detroit moved the ball

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Speaker 2: it becomes predictable. They got a pass more. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Detroit was still good five for eleven on third down.

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Speaker 2: That was solid. The problem is Detroit's defense could not

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I know I'm gonna be called a hater.

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Speaker 2: All I'll say is Patrick Mahomes, thank you for the

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Speaker 2: big Fantasy night propelled by big money league team to

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Speaker 2: a nice victory. And Travis Kelcey didn't look washed. I

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Speaker 2: didn't like the Isaiah Pacheco jaw jacking afterward with Brian Branch,

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Speaker 2: and then Brian Branch basically tried to fight the whole

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Speaker 2: damn team. You know, Mahomes was like trying to give

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Speaker 2: him five at Branches basically like leap off. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what was said. I'm assuming when Pacheco's in his

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Speaker 2: goes up in bunches Isaiah Pacheck, I'm sorry, Jujusus Schuster

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Speaker 2: just punches them with the helmet on and I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: their next game. I don't know, throwing a punch, not

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Speaker 2: exactly bright And oh, by the way, their next game

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Speaker 2: is yeah against Baker Mayfield and Tampa Bay. And without Branch.

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Speaker 2: I mean we saw Joseph leave that game. They were down,

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Speaker 2: Terry On Arnold, Detroit's got some issues guys. No Taylor

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Speaker 2: Avonte Maddox missed the game as well, missing a lot

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Speaker 2: of the guys in the secondary. So overall, I'm not

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Speaker 2: freaking out. You go listen to the Chiefs Homers. Oh

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Speaker 2: they look great. Do they look better than they did

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Speaker 2: against the Giants? Of course, teams get better. But is

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Speaker 2: this a super Bowl team? I don't think so. Is

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Speaker 2: this a top five team in the AFC? I think

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Speaker 2: they're they're in the mix. I don't quite think they're

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Speaker 2: there yet. But again, let's see who's healthy going into

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. If the Chiefs are great, if the Chargers

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Speaker 2: are not, that's bad for Key for La. So Rob,

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Speaker 2: I know that was a hating rant to start the pod.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do too much on the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: because you know we're gonna be talking about them all

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Speaker 2: season until they missed the playoffs. But you know your Raiders.

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Speaker 2: You know Gino Smith can't play like he hasn't been playing.

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Speaker 2: If they're gonna take down the Chiefs next week, that's

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Gino Smith the look the fans wanted

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Speaker 3: to be benched on Sunday and then in the game

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Speaker 3: I hate that you've done this to me, j Mac,

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Speaker 3: because we're friends, we go back a long time, and

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Speaker 3: I'm a Raiders fans. I'm not allowed to like the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: but you're making me defend the Chiefs right now, and

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Speaker 3: that's just not cool by you. Like again, I agree

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Speaker 3: but for whatever reason, his fit on that team slots

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Speaker 3: guys into a certain order where I'll open things up

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Speaker 3: for Kelsey a little bit, open things up for Hollywood

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Speaker 3: down the line, and they just function better. Most importantly,

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Speaker 3: helps Patrick mahomes function better. The last three weeks, He's

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Speaker 3: averaging two hundred and eighty two pass yards a game,

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Speaker 3: since Xavier Worthy has come back, the Chiefs offense looks

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, Rob, how much of that had to

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Speaker 2: do with facing the Ravens who can't stop anybody, the

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Speaker 2: And then the Lions like these aren't. My only pushback

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Speaker 2: is these aren't great secondaries.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Who are the great secondaries right now in the league?

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Speaker 2: There aren't many. There just aren't any.

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Speaker 3: But go ahead, now, that is entirely fair, and I

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Speaker 3: would I totally see where you're coming from. My only

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Speaker 3: counter to that counter is, when's the last time you

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Speaker 3: saw the Chiefs look this good offensively against anybody? For

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Speaker 3: three straight weeks like that? That hasn't been their mo

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Speaker 3: They have been a middle of the road, slightly above

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Speaker 3: average offense. Basically the previous two Super Bowl teams. They

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Speaker 3: were defense first, Pastrick Mahomes, timely on third down, do

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Speaker 3: enough to get the win, get a clutch, you know,

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Speaker 3: right now, through the last three weeks, they look like

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter who you're playing, because on a week to

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Speaker 3: season plus that they could take on My Raiders and

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Speaker 3: need overtime to get to thirty last season against Tampa,

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Speaker 3: they could score twenty one against Buffalo last season, and

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Speaker 3: three weeks since Xavier Worthy's been back, thirty seven, twenty eight,

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Speaker 3: see them be watchable again, at least on television.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were not ugly. That's a good point. They

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Speaker 2: were watchable last night as opposed to some of the

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Speaker 2: drek they turned out. Listen that Giants game was unwatchable.

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Speaker 2: A few mondays ago, I found a good defense that

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Speaker 2: they're gonna a secondary they're gonna have to face. That's

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Speaker 2: Patrick Shirtan twice and the Broncos. By the way, the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: I didn't wake up for the first half, but I

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Speaker 2: guess I missed nothing because the Jets had like ten

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Speaker 2: yards at halftime. But Broncos thirteen, Yes, Broncos thirteen Jets

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Speaker 2: eleven was an actual score. And you know, I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: here looking for stories. Rob's like, you know, the and

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Speaker 2: Glenn press conference. I was like, oh, yeah, I guess,

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Speaker 2: I guess we gotta touch on that. So last week

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Speaker 2: I was like, listen, man, if the Jets get the

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Speaker 2: the chops to be your coach for a number one pick.

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Speaker 2: Who's going to be a quarterback. Right, he's a defensive guy.

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Speaker 2: First time head coach. We're coaching Trezy from what does

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Speaker 2: he know about offense? You know? And I floated Mike

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Speaker 2: McCarthy as a name, A guy who was with Aaron

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Speaker 2: had a lot of success. Mike McCarthy knows offense. Jets

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, let's see Jet, Let's see what Glenn does.

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Speaker 2: notes in my phone from the game. So this is

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Speaker 2: what the Jets offense did against the Broncos. Fifty seven plays,

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Speaker 3: The problem is, and this is not directed at you.

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Speaker 3: I just wish that there would be some kind of

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Speaker 2: That being said, listen, you know, sometimes you think you

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Speaker 2: that's not the guy, Like Kyler Murray and Arizona. I

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Speaker 2: blah blah. All that stuff is we could joke about.

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Speaker 2: just say this. McDaniel got to the playoffs twice. They

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Speaker 2: their twice. I do you think he'll resurface rob as

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Speaker 2: They don't have one.

428
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Speaker 3: They don't have one period, if you want to play that. Like,

429
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: there was that big, lengthy report that came out in

430
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: ESPN before their win over the Jets where they talked

431
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: about a bunch of players who you know, never arrived

432
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: in meetings on time, or they skipped them, or they

433
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: didn't do whatever they had to do. And they pointed

434
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: out in that article that it was specifically two guys

435
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: who were the most egregious, Jalen Ramsey who got traded

436
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: and Tyreek Hill, who they tingreed with getting traded, ultimately

437
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 3: gets hurt and that's going to the end of his

438
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 3: tenure there in Miami. But one thing that they kind

439
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: of buried in that little expose was that guys showing

440
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 3: up late, guys missing meetings, guys not getting treatment when

441
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 3: they're supposed to, YadA, YadA, YadA, were all things that

442
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: were happening when they were making the playoffs too. And

443
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: once things started to go sideways and Mike McDaniel finally

444
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: started to wheel an iron fist and kind of hold

445
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: guys accountable. By then, they weren't taking him seriously anymore.

446
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 3: They had decided that he was that dude to steal

447
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: on like he was just a brilliant offensive mind, but

448
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: he was not a leader of man. He was not

449
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 3: an enforcer. We could treat him like we would treat

450
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 3: the backup quarterback, like, yeah, you're just this nerdy kid

451
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: who draws up plays and that's fine, But we're the

452
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 3: big dogs around here. And now you have Tua. And

453
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: what's interesting if you compare the Tua comments on Sunday

454
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 3: to what McDaniel said, So Tua, you mentioned it. He

455
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: says that it starts with leadership and being articulate that

456
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: for the guys, and then what we're expecting out of

457
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: the guys helping articulate for the guys, And then we're

458
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: expecting for the guys, we're expecting this, we're getting what

459
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 3: we have. Guys showing the players, make players only meetings late,

460
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: guys not showing up the player meetings at all. There's

461
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: a lot that goes into that, do we have to

462
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory?

463
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 3: Then they asked Mike McDaniel about about ten minutes later,

464
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: and Mike McDaniel says, with a stre I know, he

465
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: looks kind of gaune and high strung out. At this point,

466
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: We've been very accountable to me, So there was something

467
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: on his mind regard to specific meetings with a couple

468
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: of individuals he's trying to get corrected with direct communication.

469
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: Clearly he's sending a message. But from my standpoint, everything

470
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 3: I've asked for the guys they have delivered on. So

471
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 3: if your quarterback is saying there's a leadership problem, but

472
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 3: your coach is saying there's not a leadership problem, like

473
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: one of them is obviously lying number one, but number

474
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: two the bigger problem. It seems like both of those

475
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: guys have leadership issues, and he might see a situation

476
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: here come opening day twenty twenty six where they're both

477
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: out of Miami.

478
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it'll be interesting. I don't like, is

479
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 2: there a market for Tua because he's lefty and because

480
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: of his strengths and weaknesses, you have to build a

481
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: specific system for him. And I just I don't know

482
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: how quick that of a turnaround that is is. It's

483
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: not quite moving the Titanic when you see an iceberg.

484
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: But like all of a sudden, you need you got

485
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: to have an awesome right tackle, and you need wide

486
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 2: receivers who are willing to go over the middle. You

487
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: need speed, you know, like you there's not a lot

488
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: of rosters built that way. You'd have to totally upend

489
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 2: what you're doing. I honestly don't know, Like I mean,

490
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 2: is mac Jones gonna have a bigger market than two?

491
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: Not that two is a free agent or anything, But yeah,

492
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: it's a fascinating scenario unfolding in Miami.

493
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: One other one real quick.

494
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: Uh, it's San Francisco forty nine ers situation is just

495
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: getting downright insane. So they lose Bosa for the season.

496
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: The best ad rusher, top five or six d rusher

497
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: in the league, maybe top three depending on who you

498
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: talk to. Then yesterday Fred Warner gets rolled up on

499
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: broken ankle. It was kind of narley. You see instantly,

500
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 2: Bucks players around Warner will like signaling, get over here quickly.

501
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: It's bad. And Fred Warner is the best linebacker in football, Like,

502
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a even any doubt that he's

503
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: number one. You've now lost your best ed rusher and

504
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: your middle linebacker. On defense, how are you gonna compete?

505
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: You know they have the easy schedule, But on offense,

506
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: something's going on with Juwan Jennings. He had a rough

507
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: game and then got into it with Shanahan on the sideline.

508
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: Still no Brandon Ayuk, Still no Kittle. McCaffrey's workload is

509
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: too big. Ricky Piersoll did not play. I mean, it's

510
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: just too much at this point. It's crazy. Rob. I

511
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: look at the NFC and I'm like, I thought San

512
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: fran legitimately could have hosted the NFC championship game, and

513
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: now I don't know if they're gonna be healthy enough

514
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: to get how are they gonna get stops? I mean

515
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: Warner did every Sorry, Fred Warner literally did everything. Calls

516
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: the play, snuffs out, runs, screened back. I mean, he's

517
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: so good. Now you're in a three way tie at

518
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: the top of the West with the Seahawks and Rams.

519
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: You do have a win over the Seahawks and a

520
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 2: win over the Rams. Tampa's five in one and they

521
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: look pretty good. I'm not gonna lie. Atlanta's under some pressure.

522
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: We'll get the best bets Atlanta needs to win tonight.

523
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 2: The way the Panthers are playing at home Greenen Bay,

524
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: not overpowering but good. We'll see on Detroit, We'll see

525
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: on Minnesota, and then you've got Eagles and Commanders, and

526
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: it's like a pretty good team in the NFC is

527
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 2: going to miss the playoffs. I just hope it's not

528
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: the Niners due to these injuries. Man, it just sucks.

529
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was brutal. And if you haven't seen the

530
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: Fred Warner video yet, if you're planning on watching it

531
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: this morning, just make sure you don't have a queasy

532
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: stomach because anytime you mentioned as soon as you see guys,

533
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: especially from the other team, like throw their hands over

534
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: their face and immediately call for the medical staff, you

535
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: know it's bad. And so it was absolutely brutal. And

536
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: I've made this joke on this podcast for a few

537
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: weeks now, like whoever is the strength of conditioning coach

538
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 3: with the Niners should probably be, you know, creating a

539
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: new resume right now. At this point, I can't know

540
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: if I could blame that guy, Like are they just cursed?

541
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: Because what happened with Fred Warder was such a freak play,

542
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: Like he he's been involved in that kind of action

543
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: thirty five times a game in an NFL season, like

544
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: in an NFL game whatever, fifteen seventeeny times a year,

545
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: Like there was nothing unique about that play. He just

546
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 3: got rolled up on in the wrong way and his

547
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: ankle snapped then half like it was brutal. And now

548
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: you got this situation with Juwan Jennings and Kyle Shanahan

549
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: going at it. You know, Ricky Piersall, I don't even

550
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: know exactly what's going on with him because he'll be

551
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: questionable for two days during the week, and I was like,

552
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: he's not playing at all, and then we were told, hey,

553
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: brock Purty could play if it was you know, really necessary,

554
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: and then it's like, well he's not also not practicing,

555
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: and you know he may or may not be ready

556
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: in a week or two. It's like, well, could he

557
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: play or is he going to beat out for a

558
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: month now? Like, well, what is it? And we have

559
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: no idea when I was coming back, nick Bo, So

560
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: you like, their whole team is banged up, and this

561
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: has been a recurring theme for them since they may

562
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: have run into Super Bowl in Vegas a few years ago.

563
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: So it's just really disappointing. Because I believe, like you said,

564
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: I think that they have the kind of team and

565
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: the kind of weaponry where they could have really made

566
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: some noise this year in the postseason. And now to

567
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: your point, I don't even know they're gonna make the playoffs.

568
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: Is how banged up they are.

569
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: It's tough elsewhere. I went three and one in the contest.

570
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: Have the Falcons tonight at four and a half was

571
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: the line, So not upset with that. Let me just

572
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: do James Franklin before we do best best tonight. So

573
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: James Franklin loses as a twenty plus point favorite in

574
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: back to back weeks and then gets run out of

575
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: town on Sunday, out of Happy Valley. This is how

576
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: crazy college football is. In January, he was in overtime

577
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: against Notre Dame on super close to getting to the

578
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: national championship. That was in January. Starts the season, I believe,

579
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: number two behind Texas. They lose to Oregon. Okay, no

580
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: harm there, and then they lose two more and it's like,

581
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that just that is one of the

582
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: fastest snowballs ever where it just gains steam and they

583
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: were just like, let's cut the court Now Rob is

584
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: super into with this one theory. Okay, I'll let him

585
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: positive theory gets out there, but before I do, I

586
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: just want to say this, This college football world has

587
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: gotten so crazy. We saw Jimbo Fisher at Texas A

588
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: and M I think his buyout was close to seventy

589
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: or in the seventy million, and for years they were like,

590
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: you can't run him out. Is biots too big? And

591
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't think people understand the passion of these boosters

592
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: in college football. These people are legitimately crazy. Their expectations

593
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: are completely unrealistic. And this idea that anything less than

594
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: getting in playoff, competing for a national championship, anything less

595
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: than that, and it's like, well, we'll find someone else

596
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: who can do it. I mean remember Kylin de Boor

597
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: after that lost to Florida State. There were people, legitimate humans,

598
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: not bots, online saying, man, there's too much freedom at practice.

599
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: They're playing this rap music. You know, It's just it's

600
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: people aren't locked in. This is unacceptable that he's not

601
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: gonna last. And then there's these call in shows like

602
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: these people have nothing going on, whatsoever, zero going on

603
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: in their life that they're so committed to Alabama football.

604
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: That like on a Tuesday night, they're calling in and

605
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: getting riled up over a loss to FSU. Meanwhile, two

606
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: months later, guess what. Guess what, Alabama's probably the top

607
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: five team in the country, maybe three, and the kid

608
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson looks amazing. So let's pump the brakes on

609
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: running guys out of town. Now. Franklin's a different story.

610
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: He has not been able to win a big game

611
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: in forever, and now he's using games as a big favorite.

612
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: That's scary. The worst part is he loses his quarterback

613
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: Drew Aller, to a season ending injury in the lost

614
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: Northwestern and it's like quarterback down, season over. I mean,

615
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: you might as well run him out now right and

616
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: get a jump start on the process. You could target

617
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: who you want. Do you want the Indiana coach Signetti?

618
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: Look what he's done in two years? Do you want now?

619
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: He's sixty four years old. I don't know how appealing

620
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: that is. Do you want to go after someone else

621
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: like you? The earlier you fire your coach, the quicker

622
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: you can get on the ground to chase the guy

623
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: you want now. I saw Oregon State fire the coach,

624
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: some other school fired the coach, but obviously Penn State

625
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: was the big one. But Rob, I do want you

626
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: to float this theory that was out there. It's spicy,

627
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: but I just I don't know. I'll let you go.

628
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if I would call it

629
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: a theory because this guy is a legitimate reporter and

630
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: he is reporting this. Okay, So Mike jay Asty, I

631
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: think I'm saying that right works for wv Sports, Pittsburgh Sports,

632
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: and he also does some contributing for Yard Parker. So

633
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: take that for what you will. Reported on Sunday afternoon

634
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: that a source of Pence they told him that Adidas

635
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: drove the James Franklin firing and they are why it happened.

636
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: They committed to pay most, if not all, of the money.

637
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: They also wanted a new coach before recent losses, but

638
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: that made it hard for anyone at PSU to argue. Now,

639
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: he updated a couple hours later, saying someone at Pence

640
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: they reached out to him and say that the Franklin

641
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: firing was made by the administration, did not mention Adidas

642
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: at all. But he stands by his reporting and he

643
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: trusts his source. If that is true, that maybe we

644
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: talked about being in the wild wild West of the

645
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: nl nil era and collectives and things of that nature.

646
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: If this reporting is true, and I'm sure we'll find

647
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: out more in the next twenty four to forty eight hours,

648
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: then this would be an absolute bombshell in college sports

649
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: because we've been led to believe, now for whatever four

650
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: or five years that the big money boosters you got

651
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: that at A and M. You got them in Miami.

652
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: You know, pick your favorite school, Ohio State. You got

653
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: these collectives, some of them better than others. You know,

654
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: Oregon's got a good collective. USC's is getting better. You know,

655
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: George's got a good collective. Texas got a good collective

656
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: that they can find ways to funnel money into the

657
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: program to make sure that on every Saturday afternoon we

658
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: have a competitive roster, no matter who the coaches, no

659
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: matter who's in the stands, that our team is going

660
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: to be highly compensated with high end talent. Well, what

661
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: if we get to a point now if this kind

662
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: of reporting is true where it's like, we're not worried

663
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: about Joe Smith, a guy who owns a auto dealership

664
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: in Tuscaloosa. No, we're not worried about Uh. Jenny Johnson,

665
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: who was an alum in nineteen eighty seven, she came

666
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: into the money when her husband died and she's gonna

667
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: donate ten million dollars to the program every year as

668
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: a tax ride off. Like, we're not worried about that. No,

669
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: what if and listen again, Let's say Nick Saban will

670
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: still that Alabama. What if Coca Cola came out and said, hey,

671
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: we pay Nick Saban a hell of a lot of

672
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: money to do every press conference with a Coca Cola

673
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: sitting in front of him that he never drinks, by

674
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: the way, which is incredible. Yeah, I've never actually seen

675
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: him drink of Coca Cola. What if they come in

676
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: and say, you know what, not only are we gonna

677
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: pay Nick Saban six million dollars, we're gonna drop in

678
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: sixteen or sixty million dollars to ensure that not only

679
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: is Nick Saban doing well on the field with the

680
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: best roster money can buy, but every time he wins,

681
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: you are gonna see Coca Cola on his chest, Coca

682
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: Cola in his hand, and Coca Cola behind him. Like,

683
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: what's to stop that from happening? And if you got

684
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: Nike and Adidas and under Armour getting involved this kind

685
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: of thing because there is no policing it anymore. You

686
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: can invest however much money you want. Don't let the

687
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: government tell you any differently, this could be a watershed moment. Again,

688
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: if this is true in.

689
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: College football, yeah, yeah, you are correct. That would be

690
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: a little crazy, although at this point, Rob, I wouldn't

691
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: rule that anything. There's been so much disruption in college

692
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: football with this nil. I personally like it, you know,

693
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean, we hear stories, you know, my daughters playing volleyball.

694
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: You know, she's middle school level but on a really,

695
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: really good club team, and we hear stories about volleyball

696
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: players women in college getting like twenty five fifty thousand

697
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: per college volleyball players and that's not even like elite players.

698
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: So I do like that everybody's getting paid. The downside,

699
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: of course, is you know, you just articulated that the

700
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: potential for this not great. What if put that on

701
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: a kid? What if Coke says hey man, Jeremiah Smith,

702
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: We want to buy you, right, We want you drinking

703
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: coke on the field before afterward placement. We want all that,

704
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: and we'll give you, you know, a five hundred thousand

705
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: dollars for like a week for the Michigan game. I mean, Rob,

706
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 2: I heard a story. I don't know how much of

707
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: it's out there, so I'm not going to get all

708
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: into it. But you know, these college football games, these

709
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: these big ones are have such a huge audience, right,

710
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: and and the networks have leagues that where they can

711
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: lock up the best games. Well what about the what

712
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 2: about the non league games? Like next week Notre Dame

713
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 2: plays usc That that's a non league game that's huge.

714
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: And what if, like you know, they didn't have a

715
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: TV deal and they decided what if you know, Amazon, Primer,

716
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: Netflix wanted to throw big, big money at us for

717
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: a standalone game where you know you're going to get

718
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: a huge audience. What if that was the next frontier

719
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: in college football. Because I don't think we're far off

720
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: from that. I mean, honestly, you know that Notre Dame

721
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: has a huge audience. I mean NBC has a deal

722
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: with Notre Date. Okay, you know usc is bank, they

723
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: have an audience, they have a following, and the rivalry

724
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: is good. So if you're Netflix and Amazon and U seegs,

725
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: these these football games are doing well, in the NFL,

726
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: why don't we try college? Is that what's stopping those

727
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: guys from getting in the in the in bed with

728
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: college football games. Now, obviously they can't get in for

729
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: like Michigan Ohio State. But remember with the playoff, you're

730
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: going to get an expanded.

731
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: Schedule.

732
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: People are more willing to play non conference games because

733
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: guess what you still get in the playoff with two

734
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: or three losses, right, yeah, well, okay, sure we'll take

735
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, five ten million dollars for what game

736
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: for Old Miss Oregon or whatever the game is. You know,

737
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: I just the money is getting crazy, and I don't

738
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: think it a bad way. I just think it a

739
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: disruptive way. And I hate the phrase I'm here for it,

740
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely here for chaos in college football.

741
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. And I'm glad you brought up the

742
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 3: Notre Dame deal because as wild as this idea is, again,

743
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: we'll see if it gets confirmed in the next couple

744
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: of days. Here of Adidas being the deep pockets in

745
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: Penn State and they're the ones calling the shots there,

746
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 3: we're kind of already seeing that we're NBC. You mentioned

747
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: paying big money to be basically the exclusive home of

748
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: Notre Dame football, Right, So would it be I'm not

749
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: saying this was happening, but would it be out of

750
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: the realm of possibility if somebody at NBC says, Hey,

751
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: you know, I know we got exclusive rights and the

752
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: team's not really doing too well. We're losing too many,

753
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, close games where we can't guarantee a spot

754
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Here's another fifteen million. Go get us

755
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: Kirby smart, like, like, what's to stop them? Or more

756
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: specifically Oregon, who you can argue maybe this was a

757
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: different time back then because this was all under the table.

758
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 3: Was Oregon not already doing this with Nike where Nike's

759
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: just gonna pump in money over and over and over,

760
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: and they're gonna be the ones calling the show where

761
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: Phil Knight's like, Hey, I want Chip Kelly to be

762
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 3: my guy. I want you to recruit that one kid

763
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 3: in Florida. I know we're in Oregon and nobody ever

764
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: goes up to Oregon. What the hell to do there

765
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: in Oregon? But we're gonna find a way to get

766
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: a bunch of five star players because they're bought and

767
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: paid for by Nike. Though this could be the new Frontier,

768
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: and like you said, I am totally here for it.

769
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exciting stuff.

770
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Speaker 2: Real quick on bets bets. I am on Falcons plum

777
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: four and a half. That's gone at three and a

778
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: half tonight against Buffalo. I have financially invested in the

779
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: over forty nine. Looks like that's forty nine and a

780
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: half currently. I just don't see either side getting many stops,

781
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: and probably last team with the ball wins. Atlanta is

782
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: FIRSTKI at home. They're much more difficult at home than

783
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: they are on the road. Although they did lose are

784
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: They won at Minnesota, but again that was a dome situation.

785
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: I don't see any major injuries. But Rob, do you

786
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: have bijon in fantasy?

787
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: I do, and I'm horrible at betting, but I'm glad

788
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: that you're saying take the over because I need a

789
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: big knighte from bejeon for me to go ahead and

790
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: win this this week.

791
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: It just I mean, Buffalo can't stop anybody. I mean,

792
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: the Saints were hanging with them, nip and tuck. And

793
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: I know people will say, well, look at the Patriots

794
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: game that went under it. It was going on, folks,

795
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: that's a Patriots style. Neither of these teams wants to

796
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: slow it down. They want up tempo. Look what the

797
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: Falcons did last week or no, sorry, two weeks to

798
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: go to Washington. They pumped tempo. And by the way,

799
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: I think Atlanta was on a bye week bye last week,

800
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: and usually teams coming off the bye are ready to

801
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: click on all cylinders. Of course, not the Pittsburgh Steelers

802
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: because that's not what they want to do. But yeah,

803
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo probably wins, but I'll take Atlanta in

804
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: the points. And I had liked Washington a lot against

805
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: the Bears, but I don't know Bears coming off of

806
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: bye Washington. We'll see if McLaurin plays. It's up to

807
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: five and a half. I mean, if you want a

808
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: money line teaser, let's see what it pays. Bill's Bears,

809
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, not Bears. Bill's Washington. If you want to

810
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: do one hundred pays one thirteen, that's not bad. I

811
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: mean who lose? Who screws that one up?

812
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: Who's more likely to screw that up? Probably Washington?

813
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: Probably Washington.

814
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just because, like you said, you know, the

815
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: Bears coming off of Bye. Ben Johnson, for all of

816
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: his faults, like with his personality, is a great play

817
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: caller and is a finet like fantastic scheme guy. So

818
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: I could see them scripting up maybe the first two

819
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: or three drives and come out like Gangbusters, you know,

820
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: and put potentially And that's what was true this whole

821
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: thing up.

822
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting dan Quinn last year really bottled up

823
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: Caleb and then dan Quinn really bottled up Ben Johnson

824
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: and the Lions offense. Now, the Lions did have a

825
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: bunch of turnovers in that NFC Championship game, but I

826
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: give the edge to Quinn. If McLaurin plays, that's a

827
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: huge win for Washington. Then you can win over the top. Underneath,

828
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: I'm facing deebo in fantasy, so I hope he doesn't

829
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 2: go off. Yeah, how about a Bill's Washington moneyline parlay?

830
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: In addition to the over let's take those to the

831
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: window and get get paid.

832
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: All right.

833
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: We are back tomorrow, probably talks to baseball, I don't know.

834
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: The Dodgers are still alive, the Yankees are done, and

835
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: then of course the NBA rapidly approaching. All right, see

836
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 2: them all