WEBVTT - Pirates offense slumps, Time for a trade

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory, presented to

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<v Speaker 2>you by the Foul Territory Network. I'm Noah Hiles, joining

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<v Speaker 2>me as always on my coast Josh Harrison and Platinum,

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<v Speaker 2>Kyak and Mark. It is Friday, July thirty. First, the

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<v Speaker 2>trade deadline is approaching. The Pirates are in the midst.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a tough week.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know what happened Thursday evening in Cincinnati because

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<v Speaker 2>we're recording this Thursday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>So the latest tist on our mouths.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as Pirates Baseball is concerned, is them finishing

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<v Speaker 2>off a home stand, their biggest home stand of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>where they went two and four, lost a pair of

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<v Speaker 2>series in a row to the Cubs and the Diamondbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>two teams ahead of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them in the wildcard standings.

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<v Speaker 2>A big reason for those losses wasn't on the pitchings

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<v Speaker 2>end this time, it was the offense. The offense failed

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<v Speaker 2>to get going despite having an overall pretty good week

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<v Speaker 2>of starting pitching support them. So we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the offense and you know how they got to get going.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Skens is on the mound Friday when this show

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<v Speaker 2>comes out, he will look to bounce back from his

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<v Speaker 2>only really underwhelming start since July. Arrive really or at

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<v Speaker 2>least the half part of July at the back half

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<v Speaker 2>part of July, and then we will round out this

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<v Speaker 2>week's show as always with Jay Hay now our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>Friday segment.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys, yeah, the Pirates again.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have easily scored ten runs Thursday night in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they did, they'll make this segment look silly.

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<v Speaker 2>But overall, regardless of what happens Thursday night, I still

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<v Speaker 2>think that Homestand is going to be on the mines

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of fans, a lot of people covering

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<v Speaker 2>this team, following this team, because the Pirates had a

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<v Speaker 2>really big opportunity to gain some ground on teams ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead, they fell further back.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of these games were winnable. You got

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<v Speaker 2>a good start from Mitch Keller, you got a good

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<v Speaker 2>start from Jared Jones. I mean every game they were

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<v Speaker 2>in it and they couldn't get going. They did not

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<v Speaker 2>have a really good showing offensively against any starting pitching

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<v Speaker 2>aside from Jamison tywn in that Homestand, and Jamis and

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<v Speaker 2>Tyrone got DFA the next day. So of the five

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<v Speaker 2>other starters that they saw who are still actively with

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<v Speaker 2>their club, those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut the Pirates down.

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<v Speaker 2>And three of those pitchers were left handers, which we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about later in the show, but they weren't all

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<v Speaker 2>left handers, and some of those guys just haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>good seasons. So let's talk about it. The Pirates offense

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<v Speaker 2>had a really bad week mark I'll start with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you concerned or is that just kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a frustrating thing where we've seen that in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>where I think back to the homestand against the Marlins

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<v Speaker 2>where they just didn't score a lot of runs that

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<v Speaker 2>one weekend and then they turned it around and came back.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what we're seeing now or do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe the offense is running out of gas a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think it's just a weird collective slump. In

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<v Speaker 3>the last seven days, there's only two Pirates players who

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<v Speaker 3>haven't ps over eight hundred, Brandon Low and Sean Ross,

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<v Speaker 3>who is no longer with the Pirates, So it's just

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<v Speaker 3>everyone across the board is slumping right now and it's

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<v Speaker 3>been frustrating. But I don't think I think we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>enough from this offense throughout this whole year. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna hit the panic button quite yet, but at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, it's been frustrating to watch. It's been concerning.

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<v Speaker 3>It just feels like they can't get anything going and

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<v Speaker 3>that confidence that you have. Yeah, we saw like the comebacks,

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<v Speaker 3>but they just haven't been able to start early. It

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<v Speaker 3>feels like like a first inning run. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 3>the last time we've seen them score and play with

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<v Speaker 3>the lead, So they've just been constantly chasing, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>come back. Not a great way to hit, honestly, but

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<v Speaker 3>hitting is contagious. I'm hoping that, you know, maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>series against Cincinnati in Cincinnati smaller ballpark, maybe that's what

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<v Speaker 3>they need to wake up a little bit and pick

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<v Speaker 3>up right where they left off before this home stand.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think, Josh, Yeah, obviously, you know you

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<v Speaker 4>look at this home stand and you saw a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of opportunity out there, missed opportunity. But given where this

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<v Speaker 4>offense has been, you know to this point of the season, I,

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<v Speaker 4>as you mentioned, Mark Dot, need to panic. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>one of those stretches. It's just an unfortunate time to

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<v Speaker 4>be going through the stretch. But more than anything, as

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned, going to Cincinnati Division opponent, a smaller ballpark,

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<v Speaker 4>a team that you know hasn't necessarily played as well.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, these are teams that you want to go

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<v Speaker 4>into and not count anybody out. But this is where

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<v Speaker 4>you can, you know, go and try to get a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of that confidence back, because you know, having

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<v Speaker 4>those opportunities that you miss, you know, obviously leaves a

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<v Speaker 4>sour taste in your mouth. But you know that's the

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful game about this game is you're gonna be presented

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<v Speaker 4>with that opportunity again, and you know, the Pirates are

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<v Speaker 4>right in the thick of it, and you know, obviously frustrating,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, from winning the first game against Arizona's been

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<v Speaker 4>dropping the next two. You know, with a team that

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<v Speaker 4>you're literally neck and neck with, you know, obviously, those

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<v Speaker 4>those are losses that are gonna stick with you, especially

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<v Speaker 4>at this point of the season. But you would hope

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<v Speaker 4>that these bats, you know, turn it around, because they've

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<v Speaker 4>been you know, top offense thus far throughout the season,

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<v Speaker 4>so no reason to you know, hit the panic button.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, you know, winnable games, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we we've had this saying enough winnable games. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for one, this wasn't on the bullpen, you know, or

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<v Speaker 4>the starting staff.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know that those kind of stick.

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<v Speaker 4>With you, you know, because like dang, all you can ask

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<v Speaker 4>for is your pitching staff to keep you in these games.

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<v Speaker 4>And when the pitching staff is doing their job, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>more than likely with an offense like this, you know

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<v Speaker 4>you you'd be looking pretty but you know, right now

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<v Speaker 4>things just aren't clicking as a whole. But hopefully the

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<v Speaker 4>Cincinnati series gets them back to you know, that swagger

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, that confidence of a right here we go, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>pitching has been doing what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's let's join them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't think there's a ton to worry about here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this just happens.

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<v Speaker 1>This happens.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna happen to teams for one to two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of how good you are. It happens to the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>it happens to the Yankees. It just happens, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it. It is tough though when you're seeing it

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<v Speaker 2>happen in such important games, like the timing of it

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<v Speaker 2>was poor.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the flip side.

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<v Speaker 2>Their offense was clicking on all cylinders right before the

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<v Speaker 2>All Star break, and those were some very important games too.

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<v Speaker 2>When they had that six game homestand against the Braves

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<v Speaker 2>in the Brewers, they were scoring runs, they were getting

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<v Speaker 2>the job done. So you know, it comes and it goes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's just how it is. And for the most

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<v Speaker 2>part it's been fine. I think my only concern.

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<v Speaker 1>About it would be two things.

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<v Speaker 2>One, I mean, as Merlin Valdes is the league is

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<v Speaker 2>adjusting to him. I'm not sitting here saying that anyone

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<v Speaker 2>should be panicking. I mean, he had another home run

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, which was you know, earlier this week, so

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just something where it's he's not gonna bat

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<v Speaker 2>three point fifty and hit thirty home runs this year

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<v Speaker 2>probably and that is okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a rookie. He shouldn't be expected to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was the firepower that had their offense at

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<v Speaker 2>that next level while they were without Spencer Horwitz and

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<v Speaker 2>O'Neal Cruz. The good news is those guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be back soon, probably within the next couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them, and if they can pick it up

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<v Speaker 2>where they left off.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be okay if guys like I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandon Law was struggling entering this week and then he's

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<v Speaker 2>had a really good week. Ryan Reynolds had a big

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<v Speaker 2>home run in this last Arizona series. If he can

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<v Speaker 2>get going in the second half, that will be massive

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<v Speaker 2>for them. They have too many guys for I think

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<v Speaker 2>this thing to fail collectively. My only concern would just

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<v Speaker 2>be how much of that failure was just not hitting

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<v Speaker 2>the ball where they weren't, versus how much of that

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<v Speaker 2>failure was getting out game planned, versus how much of

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<v Speaker 2>that was them getting in their own way?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Those were big games, and did they maybe maybe put

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<v Speaker 2>too much pressure on themselves. I can't answer that. No

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<v Speaker 2>one can except for that only Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say only they can, but yeah, sometimes can't, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 2>They might be able to answer that way down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>But Josh, you know when you were playing in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen or the moment, Yeah, you're in the moment, You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean? Yeah, every game matters to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's not how you're thinking. But then I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>as the season goes on, you can maybe look back

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, yeah, I think we were pressing a

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<v Speaker 2>little too much, and I'm not saying that that is

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<v Speaker 2>the case, right right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I got it interesting that Yeah, I gots sat right here.

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<v Speaker 3>They have only drawn thirteen walks in the last seven days.

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<v Speaker 3>They've struck out forty four times in that stretch.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right there.

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<v Speaker 4>As pressing or not being patient or as you say,

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<v Speaker 4>being out gained what you know, hitters meaning.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you talking about working counts? Are you you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, injuries, guys popping in and

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, you don't want to say pressure,

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<v Speaker 4>but you also know this time of year things get

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<v Speaker 4>magnified a little bit around trade deadline because oh man,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to win these games to make our you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if we want to you know, not saying guys are pressing,

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<v Speaker 4>but as you said, Noah, in the battle of the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>you might not realize it, but just you know, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>and there you go, thirteen walks as opposed to forty

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<v Speaker 4>something strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 5>That that right there is not going to get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that's part of it, and it's learning

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<v Speaker 2>how to play like this and for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>guys on this team. This is the first time they

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<v Speaker 2>played in a big game, in a big series like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a quick break. When we come back, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about Paul Skeins. He pitches Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to break it down down here on Bucco Territory.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Paul Skeen's back on the bump on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time we saw him was over the prior

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<v Speaker 2>weekend against the Chicago Cubs. He looked really good to start,

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<v Speaker 2>look like they caught up to him the second or

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<v Speaker 2>third time through, and then the moment he left the

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<v Speaker 2>game went to hell. Overall, I still think Skeens is

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<v Speaker 2>trending in the right direction. The start against the Cubs

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<v Speaker 2>was a little concerning, considering a he typically pitches very

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<v Speaker 2>well against the Chicago Cubs, and B the velocity was

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<v Speaker 2>down again and it's it was dipping again, and probably

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<v Speaker 2>dipping more so than we've seen it at any other

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<v Speaker 2>time this month.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mark, again, I'll start with you, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>looking to see from him. Do you need to see

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<v Speaker 1>seven to feel good from Skins this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to see that, obviously. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you need it, but the Pirates are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>They're starting Johann Ramier's Thursday before, prior to or after

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<v Speaker 3>we're recording, so it sounds like a bullpen game going

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<v Speaker 3>into Skeens start Friday. Yeah, that's that's what you need

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<v Speaker 3>from him this he's the team's ace. He's the best

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<v Speaker 3>pitcher on this roster. You gotta have him pitch like

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<v Speaker 3>it and the velocity dipping. He doesn't seem concerned about

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<v Speaker 3>it at all. I am starting to get to a

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<v Speaker 3>point where he sat ninety five point six in his

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<v Speaker 3>last start, was the average, and that at a certain

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<v Speaker 3>point you get a little concerned. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>he's fatigued. I don't know if it's just that's what

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to do that day, but it is. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>starting to get to the point where that's a level

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<v Speaker 3>of a little bit of concern for me. But also

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<v Speaker 3>that Cup start, he got unlucky, a lot of just

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<v Speaker 3>like bloop singles. It felt like a lot of weak

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<v Speaker 3>contact that found grass and that'll be baseball. But at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, you just need Paul Schemes to be better.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, against the Cincinnati Reds, you need him to

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<v Speaker 3>step up and dominate. And it would be awesome, especially

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<v Speaker 3>for this team with coming off that series in Arizona. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>just a shot of arm, a shot in the arm

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<v Speaker 3>of momentum of you know, belief in this team. Be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, we do have one of the best pitchers

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball and he's going out there and shoving for

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<v Speaker 3>us every five days. We can win this thing, we

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<v Speaker 3>can make the playoffs. So I just want to see

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<v Speaker 3>him in. Still a little bit of confidence in this team,

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<v Speaker 3>but easier said than done. Joshua, are your your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 8>On Schemes here?

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<v Speaker 3>Looking to bounce back against the Reds.

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<v Speaker 4>You need your ace to be your ace, be a stopper, yep,

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<v Speaker 4>especially especially in moments like this where Sam is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>not had success that they wanted to pass, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>week or so.

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<v Speaker 5>You need your ace to be your guy.

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<v Speaker 4>And regardless of you know, losing you know v Low

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<v Speaker 4>here or there. This is the beauty of baseball, especially

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<v Speaker 4>guys in his position.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a pitcher.

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<v Speaker 4>This is where you learn to pitch and not saying

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<v Speaker 4>that learns to pitch. But you know I can remember,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just a small story Tyler Glass.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I remember Triple A.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was rehad the one game, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>at one point he kept looking back at the you know, velocity.

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<v Speaker 5>And it wasn't saying ninety eight ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, his fastball was like ninety three ninety four,

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, you do realize, like you're not always

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<v Speaker 4>going to have that ninety nine in a tank, But

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<v Speaker 4>what you can learn is to pitch with what you have.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know that was from playing with guys at

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<v Speaker 5>you know a J.

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<v Speaker 4>Burnett, you know that used to throw a hundred who

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<v Speaker 4>ended up pitching at ninety two ninety four. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to have that in the tank every day, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, real pitchers know how to get out. And

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<v Speaker 4>what you'll see with Paul, as you mentioned, still having

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<v Speaker 4>success not throwing his herd because he knows how to

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<v Speaker 4>pitch and tone of his pitchers. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 4>he knows he doesn't I don't want to say he

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<v Speaker 4>knows he doesn't have his velocity, because only he knows

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<v Speaker 4>what's really going on. Whether it's fatigue or something mechanical.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of things can be going on. But one

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<v Speaker 4>thing that I know is he's a competitor. He's a pitcher,

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<v Speaker 4>and he still knows how to put the ball where

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<v Speaker 4>he wants and at the end of the day, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the name of the game on the mound. So I

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<v Speaker 4>have no doubt that you know, he's every fifth day,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, you know, whether I got the vlo or not,

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<v Speaker 4>I put pitches where I need to.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna get the outs.

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<v Speaker 4>And as I said, you need your ace to be

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<v Speaker 4>a ace Friday, whether he's throwing one hundred or ninety six, yea,

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<v Speaker 4>do what you do.

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<v Speaker 5>Get your outs and pitch.

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<v Speaker 4>And I expect Paul to do what he does because

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, as you said, he's still trending up or

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<v Speaker 4>just might not be what we've seen in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's part of baseball, that's part of the wear

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<v Speaker 4>and tear of you know, you got to make adjustments,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's going through an adjustment period that most people

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<v Speaker 4>probably didn't think he would have to. But everybody has

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<v Speaker 4>to go through this adjustment period.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time, that's all it is. It's time. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>to be the ace like you. For as good as he.

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<v Speaker 2>Looked in those three starts prior to the Cubs one

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<v Speaker 2>where they won three in a row, he got crazy

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<v Speaker 2>run support in all three of those games. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the first one was when O'Hearn went nuclear and drove

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<v Speaker 2>in ten runs himself. The last or the second one

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<v Speaker 2>was right before the All Star break where they were

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<v Speaker 2>up by ten runs by like the third or fourth inning.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in Cleveland, not only did they put a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of runs up on the board, they also

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<v Speaker 2>made a lot of big defensive plays, or maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians just made a lot of stupid plays on the bases.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they made four.

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<v Speaker 2>Outs on the base, so right, And you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>had the most ideal situations. And I'm not taking away

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<v Speaker 2>from his production in those starts because he did his

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<v Speaker 2>job too. But now the offense is struggling, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for Paul Skeins to return the favor. They've given

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<v Speaker 2>him crazy run.

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<v Speaker 1>Support in three of his last four outings.

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<v Speaker 2>His last outing, the one against the Cubs, they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>score a run from him for him, and he kept

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<v Speaker 2>them toe for tow for a little bit. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>the ace. If that other guy has a zero, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to match that zero.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how this works.

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<v Speaker 2>When you the ace, when you're the cy young, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're the best pitcher on a pitching staff and on

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<v Speaker 2>a team that's trying to make the playoffs, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>got to put the team on your back. We just

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen Paul do that a ton this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is the time to do it against a team

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<v Speaker 2>that you typically always pitch very well against in a

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<v Speaker 2>ballpark where you have pretty good numbers despite it being

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<v Speaker 2>a hitter's part.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the time. This is the time for Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Schemes to carry the Pittsburgh Pirates.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's not now, then when is it gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it gonna be your next start in Milwaukee? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it gonna be in August and September? Or is it

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<v Speaker 2>just not gonna be your year? Because if it's not

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<v Speaker 2>his year, this teammate't make in the playoffs. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>to start now. So that's all I got, unless you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have anything to add. Nope, all right, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take another break. When we come back, we'll round it

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<v Speaker 2>out with Jay hay now here on Bucco Territory.

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<v Speaker 9>There is one place to be on trade deadline day

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<v Speaker 9>watching Foul Territory.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course. A. J.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, and now our j hay Now segment, what

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<v Speaker 8>do you say?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, here we go, Jay Hay Now, this segment

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<v Speaker 4>is just gonna be I'm gonna be straight to the point.

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<v Speaker 4>Deadline is Monday just didn't have that grade of a

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<v Speaker 4>you know, offensive showing, especially against lefties. My segment is, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we we've seen a little bit of struggles this past week.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing to be too panicked about with this offense, but

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<v Speaker 4>we've hit on how adding you know, a potential bat

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<v Speaker 4>may help, especially facing lefties. You've tried it internally and

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<v Speaker 4>nothing against those guys, but if you're really trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make a push and you really want to better this

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<v Speaker 4>team and give it an opportunity, you got to go.

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<v Speaker 5>Get some help.

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<v Speaker 4>And as I said this, this past home stand, you

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<v Speaker 4>tried things internally, nothing against those young guys, but you

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<v Speaker 4>know this team is in a position to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>make a wild card and you you you need to

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<v Speaker 4>shore up some things. And if this pass home stand

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't enough to show that, you know, you need to

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<v Speaker 4>make a move somewhere to help bolster this offense, which

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<v Speaker 4>is already good. But you can't be that inconsistent, especially

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<v Speaker 4>when you're getting you know, good pitching. That's all you

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<v Speaker 4>can ask for. And to me for my j hay

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<v Speaker 4>now segment, something's got to be done. Time is ticking.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to rush and make an overpay, but you got

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<v Speaker 4>to do something because too many games are too many

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<v Speaker 4>winnable games are not being won. And granted we know

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<v Speaker 4>it's been more bullpen that has you know, caused that,

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<v Speaker 4>but at the same time, where at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>July and the struggles against lefties have you know pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much been there. So if this home stand wasn't enough,

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<v Speaker 4>especially with only a couple of days left, you gotta

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<v Speaker 4>make a move to help bolster this offense and not

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<v Speaker 4>waste these pitching starts because you're only as good as

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<v Speaker 4>you can do. When your pitch is good. You gotta

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<v Speaker 4>get timely heading. You got to put runs up, otherwise

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna strike out forty four times and walk thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Well, I was just gonna say, yeah, they just

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<v Speaker 2>need something. I don't know if I mean, obviously they

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<v Speaker 2>have multiple areas of the team that need addressed by August.

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<v Speaker 5>Third people that helps an offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But give them a new face in the clubhouse in

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati this weekend, and let it be someone who wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>promoted from Triple A or someone who wasn't claimed off

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<v Speaker 2>waivers or just recently DFA.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, let it. Let it be someone you need to

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<v Speaker 1>show this team.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that I don't I don't get the sense that

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<v Speaker 2>this team doubts that the organization believes in it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think they are in lockstep. I think the organization

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<v Speaker 2>has made that very clear that they believe in this group,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the players believe that organization sentiment, like

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no distrust there.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're getting to the point in the year where

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<v Speaker 2>every day where something isn't done, yep, it feels more

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<v Speaker 2>prevalent to do something the next day, and you feel

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<v Speaker 2>the way like loss is weigh more right now than

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<v Speaker 2>they do in April.

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking at the standings.

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<v Speaker 2>Even these guys, even though these guys say they're not,

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<v Speaker 2>they are, or people are around them are, and people

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<v Speaker 2>around them are telling them where they are in the

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<v Speaker 2>wild card who you know what the Cardinals just did,

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<v Speaker 2>What the Padres are doing, what the Nationals are doing, Diamondbacks, Cubs,

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<v Speaker 2>all these teams. It's the world that they live in,

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<v Speaker 2>and they know that they haven't been good enough. And

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<v Speaker 2>while they all individually know that they need to be better,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing more that's gonna give them another boost than

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<v Speaker 2>the organization going out and saying, hey, here's some help.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got more on the way, but here's the first

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<v Speaker 2>little taste. And while they can, I'm sure they can

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate guys going up and down in the minor leagues

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<v Speaker 2>and saying like, look like that's.

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<v Speaker 1>You trying to and to their credit, sometimes that's worked.

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<v Speaker 1>This year.

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<v Speaker 2>They called up Carter Griffin in the first week of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. Their team looked a lot better. They called

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<v Speaker 2>up as Merlin Valdez, team looked.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot better.

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<v Speaker 2>Wilbrid Hotel help for a little bit there have been

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<v Speaker 2>some other guys as well. Now you're running out of

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<v Speaker 2>cards to play on that side of the table, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to make a bigger move. It doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be substantial, but just somebody a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>established to go to the bullpen or somebody who can

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<v Speaker 2>just say, Hey, you know, I'm not gonna play a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna play against lefties and I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>our lineup a better chance.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna go a long way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I revert back to the comments Brian Reynolds

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<v Speaker 2>made to my coworker Colin Beasley in spring training, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, it's easier. We've always said that we believe

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<v Speaker 2>we compete, we can compete.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Easier to believe that this year because you look around

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<v Speaker 2>there are guys that allow us to believe it there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm obviously paraphrasing, but he essentially just said, yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're a better team. We see it. We look around

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<v Speaker 2>in the clubhouse, we see we're just a better team.

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<v Speaker 2>And that allows us to believe we can go out

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<v Speaker 2>and do things that we haven't achieved before. And they

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<v Speaker 2>need to double down on that belief and the way

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<v Speaker 2>you do that is by bringing in and because there

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<v Speaker 2>are no top prospects that you're calling up to provide.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no Garrett Cole you're throwing in here like

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<v Speaker 2>they did in twenty three team, right, those guys have

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<v Speaker 2>already come up, So now you got to go find

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<v Speaker 2>it elsewhere and give them a spark. Just give them

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<v Speaker 2>that cup of coffee, put a battery in their back,

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<v Speaker 2>and allow them to find a second win for this

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<v Speaker 2>you know, two month stretch. That's going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>most important two month stretch the Pirates have played in

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<v Speaker 2>probably a decade, if not longer.

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<v Speaker 1>So mark anything to wrap us up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just that shot in the arm would go a

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<v Speaker 3>very long way. I think with this team, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>they're a good team there. We know that it's very

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<v Speaker 3>clear what pieces they need to become great and they

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<v Speaker 3>just have to go out and add them. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>I think a little bit frustrated as a fan when

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<v Speaker 3>you see, you know, the bullpen impact another loss and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, well, we know we need bullpen help, go

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<v Speaker 3>out and get it. What are you waiting for at

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<v Speaker 3>this point? I get you don't want to overpay and

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to wait for the best deal. But every

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<v Speaker 3>day that we're waiting is you know, that's one more

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<v Speaker 3>loss that could impact And finally, I mean we're right

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<v Speaker 3>on the margins. So it's it's a little frustrated right now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited. Uh, it's big, big trade deadline, biggest one

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<v Speaker 3>of Ben Sherrington's tenure as general GM here and it

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<v Speaker 3>could be a make or break deadline for him if

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<v Speaker 3>he sticks around. You know, it's a full stop period.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to win, make the postseason. Uh, this city

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<v Speaker 3>wants it. So now is the time. We have a

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<v Speaker 3>good ball club. Let's become great and make that final

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<v Speaker 3>push here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was just saying the final push was pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much what I was gonna go off of, is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>give something to help with that final push and you

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<v Speaker 4>to go along with that. You know, it's not a

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<v Speaker 4>final push, but we'd love for you to push that

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<v Speaker 4>subscribe but to give us. Yeah, but yeah, push that

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<v Speaker 4>buttonbscribe on our way to three thousand, working our way there.

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<v Speaker 4>Every little bit helps appreciate the support and why you're there.

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<v Speaker 4>Hit the team store a lot of great things to

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<v Speaker 4>choose from T shirts, so these mugs, bucket hats, list,

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<v Speaker 4>goes on, but yeah, appreciate the support, continue to spread

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<v Speaker 4>the word. And is is it still the all star

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<v Speaker 4>shirts or no?

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<v Speaker 8>I think we does.

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<v Speaker 3>We're goet on nose.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, goods but yeah, working our way to three

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<v Speaker 4>K as I said, not the final push, but keep

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<v Speaker 4>pushing that button mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Any final thoughts, I just want to give a quick

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<v Speaker 3>shout out behind the scenes, George makes a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>our our thumbnails and he's just been going above and

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<v Speaker 3>beyond for us. Uh, So shout out to George. Really

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate the hard work he's been doing for this show.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people behind the scenes help us out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wanted to give him a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>shining because he's really been going above and beyond for us.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you George. Any final thoughts, Noah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know. I mean we're we're at the

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<v Speaker 1>point of.

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<v Speaker 2>The year now where it's just like there's there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>left in the brain here. It's all it's all up

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<v Speaker 2>front when make moves, keep winning. That's that's what we

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<v Speaker 2>got to talk about. That's what we need to see

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<v Speaker 2>from the Pittsburgh Pirate.

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<v Speaker 3>And hopefully we'll be talking to you guys soon with

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<v Speaker 3>like an emergency trade podcast, So if the pirates make

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<v Speaker 3>a move, we'll be here to cover it as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as we possibly can for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So absolutely, he's Platinum keyak Mark, He's Josh Harrison, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Noah Hiles. We're signing off saying thanks for tuning in

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<v Speaker 2>to another episode of Buco Territory, presented to you by

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<v Speaker 2>the Foul Territory Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care,