WEBVTT - Lalah Hathaway 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:10.160 R and B Money, Honey, we are thanks take MATOCHI. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:16.040 We are the authority on all things R and B 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.800 ladies and gentleman. My name is Tank Time, and this 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:26.960 is the R and B Money Podcast. The authority. You 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:31.800 know what I'm saying on all things, all things, all, 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.880 every last one of them. R and B. 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:41.440 Is it in your blood? Did you come from it? 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:42.559 Did you come from it? 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:44.400 Uh? 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:45.920 Did you get it out of the womb? 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.880 Huh? 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:54.800 Are you on a level of perfection? That are you 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:55.760 will be studied? 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:57.480 How many grammy is you got? 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:03.640 How many grimes do you have? Yeah? Yeah? Have you 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.800 perfected you'll game? Have you putting in hours to understand? 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.000 Can you say more than one voice with one throat? 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.360 That's all I'm asking you. 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:19.360 She can and she's here. 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:21.319 About it? 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.560 Fie, Hello, thank you? 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.600 Something wrong with you? 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:29.600 No, it's all right. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:35.920 It doesn't make sense. I have I have. I have 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.959 two perfect vocals. I have two perfect vocals. There's Eric 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.880 Dawkins in their shoe. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.759 I fully agree with you on the Eric Dawkins fully perfect. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.720 He's in my top ten of all time voices. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:50.000 No flaws. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:50.880 Yeah, I agree with. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.800 You, and I've seen you live, I've heard you on record. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.160 You don't miss sometimes I miss I haven't heard it. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:05.360 I covered good. That is the gifts to understand. There's 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.600 no such thing as a miss. But yeah, I usually 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:08.200 don't miss them. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.200 Yeah. Yeah, what I'm doing, what I'm doing, you won't 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:14.560 catch me missing. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.160 Yeah, you fix it somehow. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:22.800 You're just vocal. Steph Curry, oh man. Every time you shoot, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.400 we think it's going in every time. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:27.520 A word. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.160 That's the other part. It's the expectation though. That's if 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.120 you think, you know how you like you see a 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:37.440 girl on Instagram and she looks away that when she 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.440 walks in front of you. You might she don't look 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.120 that way, really, but you're so used to looking at 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:44.959 that other way that that's what you see. 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:49.359 So yeah, okay, let me ask you a question. And 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.920 normally we started to beginning, but you just played us 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:57.800 your new project. I did, yeah, and thanks for listening please. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:05.360 And I feel like you're taking like jazz soul, and 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.360 I want to mix in something else in there? What 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:09.679 can I mix? What else can I mix it? 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:09.919 Now? 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.880 Pop, blues, alternative, mets. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.160 I want to say alternative. Yeah, I want to add alternative. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.440 So R and B R and B got some house, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.839 so I feel like you're you're I feel like you're 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.000 somewhere we're not yet really, I feel like you're in 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:31.079 the future. And it's because and it's because like this 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.800 is how I see it like for me, like listening 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.320 to it, I'm about to I'm about to study it 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.960 to apply it to future work. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:46.400 Interesting to me, it feels like I'm in the real, good, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.720 good past of me because in nineteen ninety when I 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.960 started making records, I wanted to make records that had 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.040 all that stuff on them, Like I had Shakakhan records 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:02.119 that had Beatles covers and duets with Rick James and 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:07.720 our Reef margin like these whole designed Bebop Medley things 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.360 on them. So I grew up with records where people 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.520 were stretching across the whole records. That's always what I 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:14.240 have tried. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:20.080 To do, and it's like there's no boundary, which is 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:20.640 what I love. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:22.720 Yeah, I like to stretch. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.440 And so when we were having that conversation, I was like, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:30.280 oh my god, if you don't put this tempo on 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:35.680 their head and keep hitting them with it, I'm gonna 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:36.159 be mad. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.320 Yeah, I feel you, I feel you, I feel you 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:39.160 on the sequencing. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.080 No, noss, I'm sorry. I wasn't talking about sequencing. I'm 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.040 talking about singles. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.600 Oh yes, I agree, Yeah. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:51.039 I'm talking about singles. They need to feel that of you, right. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.680 But the concept of a single, though, like they're gonna 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.720 feel everything. We're gonna do what we can do for everything. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.560 But the concept of the single is like, what is 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:02.240 that anymore? 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.919 It's just a lee record. It's just a record that 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.479 you're putting emphasis on at the moment. Yeah. Right, And 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.880 so but if we if we're dialing into single single 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.200 and we started talking radio, then that space is still 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.160 very much a viable space for what you do. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.080 But where would you like, what radio? Would you go to? 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:20.560 ARMB radio? Off top? 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:21.719 What R and B radio? 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:22.880 Army radio? 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:23.560 Is that a thing? 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.479 Oh we changed that, Yeah, Army radio is a whole thing. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.280 Is that a thing for that kind of. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.279 It is absolutely a thing. Chris Brown is on R 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.560 and B radio. Yeah, it is a thing. C B 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.400 as you call them, c B see Breezy Team Breeze Radio. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.640 It is. It is a thing. Sissa is on R 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:43.360 and B radio. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:44.320 Not with tempo. 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.440 Absolutely, Sissa doesn't do tempo, does she? 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.960 I think you're looking at it from like, you know, 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:59.240 yours is Yours is just more upbeat. I think Scissa 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.160 does more of a down beat type of record, and 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.240 I agree with that. But I think what he's saying 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.599 is that it's now the format is just opened up 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:09.080 to more. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.719 That's good to know because I am a person that 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.599 is not in my car all the time listening to 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.640 the radio, So I get my music from all kinds 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.599 of sources. Some from the radio, some from the satellite radio, 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.880 a lot from friends. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.160 Let me help you. Number Number two on R and 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.400 B radio, Tyler Water, Number one on the R and 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.159 B radio Usher Good Good Yeah. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:38.000 Uh. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.160 Number three on R and B Radio Victorium Money, Oh 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:41.680 my mama. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:46.560 Oh yeah. Also though still not tempo urgency, but not 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.560 tempo tempo. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:54.400 It is absolutely tempo. If Bloodlines came out right now, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:55.320 it'll be on R and B. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:07:00.480 Radio, Well, yes, that's for not for tempo though the temple. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:08.880 I hear you, Yes, absolutely, I feel. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.240 You, because because now R and B radio is in 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:16.280 a place where it is it is being competitive with 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.880 mainstream radio, it's trying to mirror it in a sense, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.200 and so the only thing that only place where I 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.440 think R and B radio is now is now starting 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.240 to pivot to catch up. Is for an artist to 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.240 be able to have multiple records at the same time 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.200 and a great charge some of them do. Yeah, so 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.520 that's the that's the next change revolution to RMB radio. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.200 But in terms of the tempo and even the subject matter, 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:39.920 it's it's it's wide open now. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.880 Yeah. I mean I have been at radio stations where, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.360 you know, like I had a new record out and 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.200 the program director said, we just can't stop playing Forever 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.160 for Always for Love. And that record came out in 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:56.080 the early aughts, So I recognize that things have changed 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.680 since I put a record out. Things have changed absolutely 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.200 with me, and things have changed in the in the 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.360 the scope of what black radio is. So I'm that's 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.400 exciting to know if you feel like something that's for 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.360 on the floor can live in that way, particularly from 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.440 someone like me that they really just want to hear 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.920 like the blues and the ballads from, then yeah, I'll 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:19.400 go for that. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.720 I am you and I are mirrored in the blues 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.120 in the ballad box. We are in there, you know 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.960 what I'm saying, And and we just said, man, I'm 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.600 a fine one. And when I find it's going yeah, 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:40.080 and we found it and it's going yeah, and so likes. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.800 It's just it's just a concise. It's like a very 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.000 mean decision. This is it. You just pick it and go, 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:51.160 this is it. What y'all doing, This is what we all. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:52.880 I'm going to show this to my whole team today. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:57.600 I'm going to tell them all about it. That's all 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:58.120 about it. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.080 That's the that's what we're in like we're we're not. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.000 We just can't let them dictate it no more. And 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.760 I say that for you because you have so so 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.080 much to offer in terms of creativity, you should not 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.880 be limited. I agree with you for no reason. 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.560 Yeah, I think I know an artist like me, I 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.520 can just speak for myself. I fall into that paradigm 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.199 of like being one foot in what is the traditional 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.000 part of this business, and then both the other feats 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.520 in the future of where I want to go and 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:33.520 what I want to be able to do. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.040 Because musically you're doing it. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.600 Yeah, absolutely, and I feel like I have been doing 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.520 it musically. But it's just it's always been a it's 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.480 always been a thing. It's always been like this is 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.320 what you do, and you kind of stay in that box. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.440 Which is why I apploud a lot of these young artists, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.959 particularly women, who understand their power and understand that whatever 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.040 they decide to do is what's going to get done. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.600 It's not even like a radio thing. It's deciding what 0:09:58.640 --> 0:09:59.640 you want to get to people. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.240 And it's also a testament to you know, now social media, 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.800 whereas like I'll talk to you, I'll tell you and 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.160 they'll talk to you. And for someone like yourself, your 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.199 fan base is so vast, you know what I mean, 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.080 You've been building your fan base and you have so 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.000 many people who just love you and what you decide 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.880 to give me right, And I think sometimes with artists 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.600 you you fall into, like you said, you fall into 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.760 some of those boxes of oh, well this is just 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.040 what they expect. Well that's what they expected, that's all 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.679 you're giving them. But you're giving them and you've been 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:37.280 giving them multiple things. Now what you decide to push 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.920 the button on that's amongst yourself and love. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.720 The temple, because I think the biggest misconception about me 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:48.400 is that you know, like I'm somewhere sad singing the blues. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:54.280 You're clearly not. You're clearly not. That's that, Yeah, you know. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.360 That I'm not like a vibrant person that has joy, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.560 and it's it's definitely not that I love the ballance 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.920 and I love to sing and I love to ring 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.520 people out emotionally, but I also like to have fun. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.680 I like it, you know, have fun. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:18.760 But it's another thing too of are you willing? And 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.120 I'm using you as an example, but just as an 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.440 artists period, like are we willing to take that chance? 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.160 Because every artist isn't willing to take that chance. Some 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:30.719 are is just like, listen, this is what they like 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.720 me for. I love me for. That's what I'll make 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.640 other than being like, you know what, this is what 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.120 I love and hopefully you love it with me. And 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.360 some people just aren't willing to make that sacrifice and 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.679 have people be like, ah, that ain't. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:46.240 What I want it from you track them at thirteen. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.720 But there's so many people, especially now with social media 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.679 and how fast the music business moves. It's people all 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.200 over the world that hear your song as soon as 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:00.360 it comes out. Absolutely so for those those other millions 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.679 that want a certain thing, is a billion people out 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.120 here that just like, oh my god, I've never heard 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:06.320 of Laylor Hathaway, right. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.440 And everybody has access to the same stuff. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:09.400 Everybody got access. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.080 So the whole point for me is to be able 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.920 to on every record, is to be able to capture 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.560 the base and give them a loving hug and let 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.480 them sing the blues and then expand the tour the 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.320 territory past that. And that's always what I'm trying to do. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.200 And this drops when this album drops. Win. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.559 This album drops June fourteenth, in time for your June 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.000 teenth celebration. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.200 Because I wanted to get this at the top of 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.960 the episode to make sure that they understand that June fourteenth. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.840 In the name of the album, Vana Black, van to Black, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.000 and what is van to black? 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.080 It's like the blackest black, even though you know, I 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:49.560 found in the last few years that like I'm super black, 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.880 Andy black, and I was always, but now I'm extra 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.240 I got extra black. In the last ten ten years or. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.000 So, you've gotten blacker. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:12:59.959 Come blacker. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.520 I think I've got what. 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.920 We've just settled into all the plant. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:13.840 Like two thirteen fifteen, I started looking around and really 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.800 evaluating my life in this country and my life like 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.120 on the planet as a as a black woman, and 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.680 understanding that just from all of this is where all 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:29.160 of this comes and the culture that we dictate is 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:33.240 just dictated to the whole, the whole, Like everything I do, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.559 me as in the body me, all of us is 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.760 studied throughout the no matter what corner you go in 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:45.280 in the world black black, there's some black andy black 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:50.600 stuff there, and we're like a small newish group of people. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.320 Really if you look at it in the history of peoples, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.280 you know what I'm saying, Black Americans, But we have 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:02.040 spoken to every society in the world and influenced it 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.960 with our culture, with our songs, with their hair, their asses, 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.800 with our lips, with the way we talk and the 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.400 way we walk and all of that. So it's just 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:16.040 it has been sinking into my brain through osmosis in 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:17.880 the last ten fifteen years. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.040 Van to Black, the title cut is absolutely out of 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.080 this world. You out of it. I'm just still like 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.760 listening as we're talking. So I'm gonna get through it. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.000 Because it was some earth went and fire in there. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.840 It was like it was just so many things throughout 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.280 the project that I was just like, and then you 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.240 went into some crazy time signatures, which was very disrespectful, 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.240 very disrespectful. Some people are gonna be very confused. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.239 I'm sure she sang very easy. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.480 Easy, like it was nothing. No one's going to know 0:14:53.480 --> 0:15:04.760 where they snapped their fingers. I'm a drummer, so I was. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.120 I was like, oh my god, you cannot do that. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:08.600 I told you can't do that. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.000 Yeah, tell me that you admonished me on my own ship. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.840 Okay, listen, what we love to do. We love to 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:20.320 go back to the beginning, like Chicago shut down, like 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:20.840 where it. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.320 Chicago black. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.040 I just I mean the question I normally asked is 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:35.120 when did somebody say or identify that you had it 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.280 in you were special? But I just feel like, for 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.960 some reason, were born as soon as when you were born, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.640 like when they cut the cord you hit a note. Yeah, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.080 I just feel like I feel like that happened. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.000 No, I don't you know what. It's funny. I think 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.040 that from the time I was very little, you know, 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.480 like I have perfect pitch. My parents have perfect pitch, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.720 and both your parents have perfect Yeah. I think that 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.120 My mother said that the elevator would come down and 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.480 it would whistle. Dad will say what notice that? And 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.120 I was able to say it, which seems like a 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.440 big deal. No, no, no, what I'm saying is when 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.560 you listen to music all the time, you develop a 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.080 memory for music. And for a lot of people that 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.560 that muscle memory of hearing a song and knowing what 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.360 key to sing it in. Like my best friend is 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.320 pretty tone deaf, but when she starts a record, when 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.880 she starts singing a record acapella, she normally starts it 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.040 in the right key. It's a memory, do you know 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:30.480 what I mean? 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.240 It's still. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.320 If you can't sing, you got a bad memory. That's 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:44.160 just like, oh you all right, bro has a horrible memory. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.520 It's not that you're not gifted, bab you have a 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:51.440 bad memory. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.960 Memory. It's the same way you learn to talk. It's 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.200 the same way you follow whomever's teaching you to talk, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.600 how to talk, the inflections, the way you go down, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.040 the way it's up as briten, down as no. It's 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.399 all of that. We unlearned that as we get older. 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.159 But that's the same way you learn to talk. Is 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:06.720 where you learn. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:13.760 Let me try some. I was a whole step down, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:15.360 so I have relative pitch. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:16.040 What are you singing? 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:20.160 I was? I was? I was singing? How excellent? 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:21.200 Yeah? 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.160 So that's so like I can hold up me trying 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:26.280 to Uh. 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.959 These are good exercises for your ear. These are good 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:35.639 ear training exercises down okay, so you know you're within it. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:40.399 I'm I'm microtonally off nowadays sometimes okay. But Claire Fisher 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.240 told me that the world is not vibrating at four 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:45.800 forty anymore like it was. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:47.640 That is a fact. 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.000 So the world change, I'll take it. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.240 Wasn't me fact. 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.480 I'll take it. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.160 Oh, yeah, you don't hear spinning bars, you know, Yeah, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:59.959 it's at she did? 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:00.560 You know? 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.600 It's just okay? And then and then I want to 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.359 ask you this, and then we'll go back to the 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.720 we go back to the beginning. What made you say 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.119 there's a chance I can sing two notes at the 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:14.719 same time, you know what? 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.879 It just happened, and then I thought, oh, and then 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.919 I kept trying it, and then I would show it 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.040 to people and say what can I do with this? 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.600 And people were like hmmm. And then I did it, 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.879 and I did it on a John p Key record 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.439 as a little joke, and he kept it on the record, 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.640 and then I started doing it more often, and then 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.560 I did it for that Snarky Puppy record and people 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.560 were able to see it actually happening because there were 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.960 people floating around on the internet like watch this, but 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.800 it was not real. And so when people could see 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:50.400 it happening and watch watch me working it out like changing, 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.879 you know, singing over changes with it, which I didn't 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.760 know I could do either until that moment. Then it 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.800 became like, oh, well that's a phenomenal thing. But I've 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.760 been doing it since I was like thirteen. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:10.479 Did you want to be in a group person instead 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:11.840 of having imaginary. 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.840 Free normy imagining group? 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:17.120 What does this come from? No? 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:18.919 I just I just make a lot of I make 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.119 a lot of sounds. I'm just into sound. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:26.280 Okay, you hit an elevator, your pop says what key 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.800 is that? And you can say the key and what 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:30.359 age is this? 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:34.000 Two? 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.239 Two three? I guess I don't know. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:38.240 It's not normal. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.880 It's it's normal. If you grew up in the house 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:42.320 of music, it's normal. 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.640 Like it's not. I don't want you to believe that 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.400 isn't it. I do not want you to get here. 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:48.439 I'm pretty sure it is. 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.359 No, it's pretty sure it's normal. 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:57.439 No, looking in the camera deeply, it is not going 0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:59.640 anymore normal. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.919 Normal, Like you know how you grew up with kids 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.480 that have musician parents or big brother and sister parents, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.840 and they know a lot of music. I just grew 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.560 up in a house full of music. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.040 Yeah, And there's like, you know, there are people who 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:21.600 are what we call not geniuses, but when they're early, 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.560 when they came in their kids, when they prategies like 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:30.280 you're you're you're clearly a prodigy because the gift resonated 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.920 so different at an early age, Like that's a thing 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.359 that you know you ask an adult, okay, or or 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:40.159 going into your adult years like very skill, got it, 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.439 but this is something that you're like, you know, like 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:46.560 like a twenty royster doing uh doing clinics at ten 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.879 in front of grown men, Like this is how you 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.600 play the drums? Like that type of thing is what 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:54.760 I'm trying to explain that you had them telling you 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.119 it's not normal and you can't. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.119 Yeah, that part is not normal. And I was a 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.760 piano players kid, and I traveled and played piano, and 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.240 I played, you know for my mother, like for her 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.120 voice lessons. I would play piano for her. My sister 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:13.239 and I both grew up doing music like from day one, 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.399