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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. In this episode number Tannis Show,

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Speaker 1: we're sharing our favorite hunting shows, books, magazines, podcasts, and

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Speaker 1: much much more. All right, welcome to the Wire to

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Speaker 1: Hunt podcast, brought to you by Sick of Gear. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here right now in my office. The space

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Speaker 1: heater is running and I'm still cold because it's like

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Speaker 1: twelve degrees wind chill outside right now, and I can

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Speaker 1: just hear the wind like pounding on my windows and

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Speaker 1: I'm cold. And it's days like this that I kind

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Speaker 1: of don't want to go outside. Sometimes. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you, Dan, but sometimes on days like this, I

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Speaker 1: kind of just want to hybernate during the winter. But

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Speaker 1: I'm still a hunting freak. What's so funny about that?

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Speaker 1: You know? Hybernate? No? No, It's like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you feel about that, And I just I don't

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Speaker 1: know why every comment I make on this show has

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Speaker 1: something to do with my kids. And that's true. In

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Speaker 1: the past twenty four hours, I would rather fight frostbite

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Speaker 1: than be in my own house. So you would rather

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Speaker 1: lose a finger to frostbite, and you don't have a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of those to spare. But I'm used to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get that. That's funny. I literally would just hear

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Speaker 1: heard some story. I can't remember what it was, but

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Speaker 1: something this past week reminded me of you, because it

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Speaker 1: was like talking about someone losing fingers, and I just

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Speaker 1: sat there and thought of you and wondered what that

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Speaker 1: must be like. But I'm gonna we're gonna we're digressing

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Speaker 1: pretty seriously, pretty quickly. That's the fastest we've ever gone

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Speaker 1: off topic. That really I didn't even get like the

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Speaker 1: intro in. So I'll try to make the intro really

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Speaker 1: short today since I'm hibernating a little bit, and maybe

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Speaker 1: some of you out there listening are hibernating and not

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Speaker 1: going outside, maybe to do some of the different deer

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Speaker 1: hunting chores that you know we should be doing this

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Speaker 1: time of year, if that's you. I wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the different things that you can still

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Speaker 1: do to scratch that deer hunting itch while you're inside.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk through some of our favorite

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Speaker 1: deer hunting. We're just hunting in general, our favorite shows,

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Speaker 1: online shows, books, podcasts, resources, basically anything we do to

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Speaker 1: be entertained or to learn about hunting and deer hunting. UM.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna kind of go through all over dierent recommendations,

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Speaker 1: talk through all those different things, um, and hopefully leave

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Speaker 1: you all with a few different new places and resources

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Speaker 1: to check out over the coming weeks. So that's kind

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Speaker 1: of game plane. But now that's out the way, Dan,

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Speaker 1: what's going on this past couple of days that it's

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Speaker 1: got you is such a bad place on the inside,

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Speaker 1: I'm crying, okay, but my family, you know, and with

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Speaker 1: sharing a toilet last night. Is that like the same

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Speaker 1: time type of thing or yeah, and that was because

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Speaker 1: we were puking. I just want to let that know,

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Speaker 1: you're barfing at the same time. It wasn't like a

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Speaker 1: sitting on the laftip deal. Yeah, we weren't like spider

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Speaker 1: swinging to go to the bathroom. Move on anyway, Uh,

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Speaker 1: A long story short, flu came through our house the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours and just beat our family down.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I just got done changing my son's diaper

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Speaker 1: and that anyway. Yeah, so last week's been This last

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Speaker 1: I am not envious of you. I just got sort

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Speaker 1: family must be. That sounds miserable. Yeah, but we shall overcome,

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Speaker 1: so they say, so, they say. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: for this election to get over so I can go

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Speaker 1: back to regular TV commercials. The what the election? Oh?

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Speaker 1: The election? Yeah, g aren't aren't you sick of all

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Speaker 1: the commercials that are on TV? No, I'm immune to

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Speaker 1: avoid all the election, crep. I need to do that.

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Speaker 1: For instance, we usually don't watch cable, so we popped

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Speaker 1: don't miss it between political ads, political commentary, and like

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Speaker 1: the Weather Channel talking NonStop about the storm and like

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Speaker 1: over dramatizing the big snowstorm like crazy. Like there was

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Speaker 1: a guy on there who, for twelve minutes, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about shoveling snow. That's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 1: And then he so he's demonstrating proper warm, demonstrating how

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Speaker 1: It was bad. It was that bad. That's terrible. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know. So it's national television too, Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 1: And like you said, the commercials, it's bad. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: And I find myself watching Nickelodeon because there they don't

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Speaker 1: I think I might start a podcast just on cartoons.

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Speaker 1: I bet you that'd be way more successful than the

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Speaker 1: Nine Finger Chronicles. Just kidding. It would be more successful

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Speaker 1: speaking of dumbing down in TV shows and stuff, what

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Speaker 1: tell you what, Uh I do. I do my fair

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Speaker 1: So it's uh, it's something that consumes our time for

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Speaker 1: recommending all of our competition for people to check hunt.

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Speaker 1: But let me let me clarify something. The Wired to

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Speaker 1: a it's a recommendation. It's not mandatory, like the Wired

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Speaker 1: that said, that's gonna be the end of the show today.

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Speaker 1: That's all we wanted to cover. Have a good week

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Speaker 1: and stay Wired to Hunt. No at all seriousness. There's

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of good stuff out there, and you know,

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Speaker 1: why our opinions sucker or don't. But actually, Dan, before

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Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsors of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: Sick of Gear, and today I wanted to hear from

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Speaker 1: Sick of Product category leader Dennis Suck about the importance

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Speaker 1: of properly fitting hunting gear. Over recent years, companies like

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Speaker 1: Sick and others have put a real new attention to

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Speaker 1: here's Dennis, Yeah, and and fits a huge conversation. You know.

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Speaker 1: seventeen of them. In fact, we measured them. When we

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Speaker 1: got to be too much for me, and I just

425
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: like I didn't even finish. I was like, I'm just

426
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm done with this. Like, like you said,

427
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: it's a big turn off. So I you know, I'm

428
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: not trying to hate on anyone in particular, but there's

429
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: some of this stuff that if it turns you and

430
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: me off, it probably turns off a lot of other

431
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: guys who, you know, if anyone should be forgiving of it,

432
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: probably you and I should be because we're you know,

433
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: involved in the in the quote unquote industry a little bit,

434
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: and so if we get irritated by I can't imagine

435
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: how people who you know totally aren't in it would

436
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: feel too, you know, right, But you know, don't get

437
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: me wrong, there's still a lot of shows out there

438
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: that I find interesting, and I'll just name I'll just

439
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: name a couple here, Anything, d I Y. So there's

440
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: a guy named Solo Early. He does a show called

441
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: Solo Hunter. I think it's called timber KNT, right, yeah,

442
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: I think. So he goes out, throws up a tent,

443
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: and he does what me and you did out in

444
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: the Elk Woods. He sat in a tent with another

445
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: man while it rained. All that. Now he's by himself.

446
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: He's by himself. He doesn't have a partner, so way

447
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: less weird than what you get. Way less weird. There's

448
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: no uncomfortab situations in his in his tent continue. But

449
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: you know, he he's he self films everything he goes out.

450
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: He you know, tries to get awesome camera angles of

451
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: these animals that he's shooting. And it's just it's relatable

452
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: because you get to see how hard it can be sometimes, yeah,

453
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: which we can definitely relate to anything. So anything d

454
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: I Y. You know, um, the the other person that

455
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 1: I really like watching. And maybe it's because when I

456
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: when I grew up, me and my dad every Sunday

457
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: night would watch National Geographics and uh, it was this

458
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: awesome show that was on Sunday nights right before you know,

459
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: we'd sit down with some popcorn and watch this and

460
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: it was different places in the world are going to

461
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: ocean exploration now. Uh. Jim Shocky his show, his new show,

462
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: what's it called Uncharted? Uncharted where he goes to random

463
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: places in the world. And it's not just the kind

464
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: of random places. You know, when we think, uh and

465
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: out of country hunt, we think Africa. Right, most of

466
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: the time we're thinking Africa, and these guys are sitting

467
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: at a watering hole and they're just waiting that That's

468
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: not what really I see this show. This show is

469
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: about culture, you know of and that's why the show

470
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: is an hour long. But it's about culture. He shows

471
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: the culture of the people of the area where he's hunting.

472
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: He's showing, you know, the path up this fourteen thousand

473
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: foot mountain to hunt of sheep that only lives in

474
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: this particular area of Afghani, standard Nepal or wherever whatever

475
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: country he's in. You know, it shows the the hard

476
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: work and it actually takes to just plan and get

477
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: to it, you know, not just the hunt itself, but

478
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: there's an entire process that leads up to getting on

479
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: the plane. A lot about that one, And how said,

480
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like focus on the culture and

481
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: the adventure and everything, which sounds pretty cool. Yeah, so

482
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: anything adventure, I mean, I love that stuff. As far

483
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: as those are two that stick out to me nice, Yeah,

484
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: those are those are two that like. I haven't seen

485
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: the Charter, but I've heard a lot about it. And

486
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: I have seen some Solar Hunter Solo Hunter earlier, earlier

487
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: seasons when I was still watching TV, and they've got

488
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: some stuff on YouTube I've watched too. Um, another couple

489
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: shows I really like. Um, I've always been a big

490
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: fan of Heartland, bow Hunter, those guys. I think they

491
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: really kind of kicked off this revolution and like higher

492
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: production value video when it comes to TV shows, you know,

493
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: five six, seven years ago. Um, and they've always done

494
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: a really good job with a storytelling. I always thought

495
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: I liked it because like when I first started my

496
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: full time job back in the fall two thousand nine,

497
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: I got shipped out to our headquarters in San Francisco,

498
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: as you know, and so I was out there during

499
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: a hunting season. I couldn't do anything. So one of

500
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: the things I did was I discovered Heartland Bow Hunter.

501
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: They have their episodes online, and so I started watching

502
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: those and like, I kind of just live vicariously through

503
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: those stories since I couldn't go outside of do anything.

504
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: So ever since then, I've always been a big fan

505
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: of fan of what they've been doing because I just

506
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: think they take, like the the visual they took, they

507
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: take all the production and storytelling stuff really seriously. It

508
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: makes it makes it better when you have good editing

509
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: in good production value. It makes it better period. Oh yeah, dramatically.

510
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: And Luckily since then a lot more shows have been

511
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: taking things up a notch, so that's good. Um. My

512
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: other show that I really like a lot is Meat

513
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: Either with Stephen Ronnella. I'm a big Ronnella fan, and

514
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: I always enjoy his focus on again the landscapes, the

515
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: scenery of the story, the adventure, and lots of times

516
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: he doesn't kill anything, but he's always talking about, you know,

517
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: interesting things. I enjoy his the educational intellectual side of

518
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: a lot of things he discusses, and then also the

519
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: focus on food, which is super important. So like the

520
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: Meat Eater show, which you can also download those episodes online. Um,

521
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: you can get that meat eater dot vhex or something

522
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: like that. Um. I haven't watched many of the recent shows,

523
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: but some of the older I enjoyed the jury stuff.

524
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: You know, we've we've enjoyed having Terry and Mark on

525
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: the show. Um. So you know our episode with Mark

526
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: and Terry, but they were incredible, right, We learned a

527
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: ton um. So I've always enjoyed how the two of

528
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: them especially always seemed to just kind of offer a

529
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: little bit of insight before a lot of their hunts.

530
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: And they do a pretty good job with their stories

531
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: and stuff too. So those are some of the TV

532
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: shows that I've enjoyed in the past. Um, have you

533
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: seen the Juries show thirteen? Have you seen that one yet? Yep,

534
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Um kind of goes what it kind

535
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: of goes through. They break down thirteen categories based on

536
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: the White Tailed Year. Yeah, the phases of the of

537
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: the yeah yeah, and and Mark explained those in our

538
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: inner interview with him on episode sixty three. Um, but

539
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: I thought they did a good job of that. Um.

540
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: And they do a nice mix of you know, sharing

541
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: theres apperiences and stuff with good hunts and you know

542
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: that's a situation where they've got these incredible farms an

543
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: incredible deer. But they make it relatable in at least

544
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: that they share some of the stuff that goes on.

545
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: It's not like they just showed up at a farm

546
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: and kill the deer the first day. So I like that, right.

547
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: The good thing about that is it's their farm. They're

548
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: doing the work on it, you know what I mean. Yeah,

549
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: it's not like they're going to an outfitter every time. Now,

550
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: they probably do do do. I haven't watched a lot

551
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: of the dreary stuff, but especially on TV, but I'm

552
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: sure they they do their own work on their own farms.

553
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure they use outfitter. I know they use outfitters

554
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: as well. But to see progress and storylines based off

555
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: previous years, I find that interesting. Yeah, No, I definitely agree.

556
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: I love the story, especially if it's like a multi

557
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: year story, which is one of the things with with

558
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: the juries especially, they've done a really good job of

559
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: it because because you know, in honestly, because they have

560
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: the the opportunity to do so with some of these

561
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: farms that these deer can get multiple years. But shoot,

562
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: there's been some storylines they've shared, you know, hunting a

563
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: single deer. For having followed or photographed and gotten pictures

564
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: in footage for three, four or five years, I mean

565
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: that that's pretty cool, and you know, most of us

566
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: probably won't get to experience something like that, but it's

567
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: kind of fun still to to follow someone who did.

568
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: So I've enjoyed that. Um. And then the DVDs from

569
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: the juries those are probably those are the dvd is

570
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: that I still do like to buy or get online

571
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: because because of that, those same things. The DVDs are

572
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: pretty good, So I like the Dreury DVDs. UM. As

573
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: far as TV shows, those are those are the ones

574
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: I found. Know there's a whole lot of other ones

575
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: out there, um that you know, I'll click into and

576
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: back when I used to have TV, I click into

577
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: and watch and stuff. Um. A lot of people have

578
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: interviewed on the podcast. I've got TV shows that are

579
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: worth checking out. Adam Hayes. I think it's Team two hundred.

580
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: I've seen a few other episodes, and you know, anything

581
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: with Adam Hayes I find pretty fascinating, just because the

582
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: guy is a legend. As far as I'm concerned, um,

583
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: with how he's hunting and killing deer. So that's super interesting. Staying, Um,

584
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: who else whatever? Well, you mentioned Shocky already, we've mentioned

585
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: Hartland bow Hunter. Um, you know, I enjoy it watching

586
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: Lee and Tiffany's show sometimes back in the day, just

587
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: because I can think again to what we said. It's

588
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: just kind of fun dreaming about having a place like that.

589
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine hunting spot like that where

590
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: they're passing booners because they're only three years old. Yeah,

591
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty sweet. That'd be uh be a change

592
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: of pace for me. Yeah, yeah, that would be that

593
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: would be pretty cool. So, so there's some interesting ones

594
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: out there. Um, what about web shows. There's a lot

595
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: of good stuff online when it comes to video content.

596
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: Do you watch some of that stuff too? Yeah, I

597
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: tell you what. Uh Midwest Whitetail and some of my

598
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: favorite episodes are the tree the tree stand trimming episodes

599
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: where they're going out into the timber and then they

600
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: talk about why they're putting a stand in this location

601
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: in relationship to food plots, betting areas, travel corridorders, pinch

602
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: points and all that stuff. That's one of the nicest

603
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: things about the digital format, the online format, is that

604
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: you can have an episode like that that you know,

605
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: you don't need to worry about people getting bored and

606
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: leaving or whatever. You know, when I think these guys

607
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: have got a TV show and they've got twenty two

608
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: minutes and ads, you know, they're kind of forced to

609
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: put in, you know, certain things to try to keep

610
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: viewers and stuff like that. But with the digital format,

611
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: you can have a seven minute episode that's just about

612
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: triming a tree, and then the next week you could

613
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: have a twenty minute episode about a deer hunt. The

614
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: next week they can share five minutes about a food plot.

615
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: Um and lots of opportunity for education. Ye so yeah,

616
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: I love that. And I think on your little list here,

617
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: and one that I consume the most of is carbon TV. Yeah.

618
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: So Carbon TV is is essentially like an online network

619
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: of TV shows and videos and stuff like that for

620
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: hunting and all sorts of other outdoor recreation. To what

621
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: shows you watch on carbon TV? Okay, so obviously the

622
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: Heartland bull hunter stuff. But the other day I watched

623
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: PBR Rodeo. I don't know why, but I just I

624
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: got into it and I watched like five or six

625
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: episodes of bull riding. Is it just bull riding or

626
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: is it like a reality series about the bull riders.

627
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is or not, but there's

628
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: a lot of bull riding. It could be interesting stuff,

629
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: huh yeah, interesting and anything you know, and then anything

630
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: out west, like stuff that I don't get experienced a lot.

631
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of shows out there that are

632
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: dedicated to like mountain hunting or elk and sheep. You know,

633
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: there's you know, it's coming to that point in my

634
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: life where it's very there's very slim chance I ever

635
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: get to go and hunt a big horn sheep, just

636
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: because of the odds it takes to get drawn in

637
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: some of these zones. And so I just love watching

638
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: things that I probably won't ever get to do. Yeah,

639
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: it's nice to dream, that's for sure, especially that adventure

640
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: stuff out West or Alaska or the UK, that kind

641
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: of stuff that I agree. I love that stuff just

642
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: to sit there and think about it, wonder what would

643
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 1: be like and just kind of like mountain porn for me. Yeah,

644
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. But yeah, lots of good stuff on

645
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: Carbon TV. Um Growing Dear TV is a good one,

646
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: especially if you're interested in like management stuff that's with

647
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Dr Grant Woods, who was a guest on the podcast

648
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: last year. Um. He does like weekly episodes which are

649
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: great with showcase like his hunts and then also a

650
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: lot of detail about his management plans, his habitat work,

651
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: his food, plot work, pritor control everything. UM. So if

652
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: you're looking to learn about management stuff, that's a really

653
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: good one to watch. UM. And like you said, Midwest

654
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: White Tail Bill Winky does a great job both with

655
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: hunts and big deer and stories, but then also education.

656
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: I like that. Um. You know, Uh, White Knuckles web

657
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: show I think has done a really good job over

658
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: the years. And you were involved with that for a

659
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: long time, Dan and I enjoyed your stuff there. And

660
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think John Mulligan or our friend John,

661
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: just had an episode released there which is pretty cool.

662
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: So good stuff on that front. Uh. Have you seen

663
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Montana Wild videos Montana Wild, No, I have not. They're

664
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: doing some cool stuff. You want to watch some Western hunts.

665
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: They do some fly fishing and then a whole bunch

666
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: of different Western hunts. Um. They've got some really cool

667
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: videos on their YouTube and video channel. I'd recommend that

668
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: they're out of Montana obviously. UM. But They've just got

669
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: a really good style to what they do and good storytelling.

670
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: I think more like short films are not like frequent episodes,

671
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: just like handful of films every year. But um, I

672
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: like those, you know what, which bring me to a

673
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: point when you are which, Yeah, whatever you just said

674
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: sparked an idea in my head and that's why I'm

675
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna say words right now. Well that's good. That's a

676
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: good start proceed the short season. Ah yeah, Simon, I

677
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, whoever that guy is, uh he that or

678
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: his corporation or his little production company that that puts

679
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: those together. I really like those. And the cool thing

680
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: about that is there's there's a little bit of interviews,

681
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: but a majority of it is just good footage that

682
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, just because there is a video of a

683
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: guy putting up a tree stand, you don't need to

684
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: have a voiceover of a guy putting up a tree stand,

685
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like they let

686
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: the footage do the talking and it's edited very well.

687
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah he does. They do a very good job, beautiful footage.

688
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a good one the short season. Um.

689
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: And also one of the sites I mentioned that I

690
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: was going to mention which showcases a lot of stuff.

691
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: Is called hunter VIDs dot com, which is another kind

692
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: of destination site that houses a whole bunch of videos

693
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: and people can submit their videos and stuff. So if

694
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: you're looking for some different films or shows that are

695
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: available online, like we said, carbon tv is a good

696
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: one to discover new ones, and then hunter VIDs dot

697
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: com is another good one, um to find all out

698
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: of these homes and stuff. Um. Donny Vincent one of

699
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: our guests on the past episode, He's got a lot

700
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: of great short films and stuff available online. Um, that's

701
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: definitely worth checking out. Two yeah. Um. Bow Hunter Die

702
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: is another one our friends that Todd Graff and Justin's

703
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: are do a great job. But that I think. Um,

704
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: so that's at bow hunting dot com. Do you do

705
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: you get to watching of those? Oh yeah, I watch. Uh,

706
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't get to watch it as much as I'd like,

707
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: but I'm familiar with it and I they do the

708
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: same thing similar to kind of like the Midwest White

709
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: Tail where they go through the entire season, food plots,

710
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: street trimming, everything. Yeah. Yeah, and they put it. They

711
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: put a lot out. I mean, they do a good job.

712
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: It's uh, and it's tough to do that. You know.

713
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: I've tried to do frequent web videos and stuff about

714
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: the season, and you know, my little tiny operation here

715
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: struggles with it. So I know it takes a lot

716
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: of time and energy and people. So so these guys

717
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: like Midwest white Tail Growing, Dear bow Hunter Die, I

718
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: mean mad props to them and what they're doing, that's

719
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: for sure. Um, any other video stuff that that we

720
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned it, Dan that you think we should. Any

721
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: other recommendations, No, I don't. Nothing that pops off right

722
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: on top of my head. All right. Well, before we

723
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: move on to the next category, though, we do need

724
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: to pause briefly for a word from our sponsors of

725
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: this episode, Bear Archery. And as I mentioned last week,

726
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: one of the most fascinating things about bear archery is

727
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: their history haven't been founded by the legendary Fred Bear.

728
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: And so this week, as we did last time, I

729
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: wanted to share a quote from Mr Bear that I

730
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: think will all be able to relate to. So here

731
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: we go and I quote, life in the open is

732
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: one of my finest rewards. I enjoy and become completely

733
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: immersed in the high challenge and increased opportunity to become,

734
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: for a time a part of nature. Deer hunting is

735
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: a classical exercise in freedom. It's a return to fundamentals

736
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: that I instinctively feel our basic and right end quote.

737
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: So if you'd like to learn more about Fred, the

738
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: history of bear Are Tree, or what's new with bear

739
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: Ar Tree, visit bear ar tree dot com. And now

740
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: back to the show. All right, let's let's move to

741
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: another category. What about books? Do you do you know

742
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 1: how to read? Do you read? Asshole? A kid? A kid?

743
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: Do you have any I'm a super book nerd, so

744
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: maybe this is a category from me. But do you

745
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: have any recommendations on the book front? You know I

746
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: do not. The last time I read any type of

747
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: book was actually during our Western hunt. And I want

748
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: to tell you what was the one with a guy

749
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: who headed out west? What was his name? Uh? George

750
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: byrd Grannell? Ye, George Bird? Canell send me that book

751
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: when you're done reading it so I can finish it up. Yes,

752
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I did finish as I'll send it to you. That's

753
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: one of the books I was gonna recommend, so i'd said,

754
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll start off there I'll try to not

755
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: make this too boring, but I've got a blog post

756
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: and actually had a blog post about our the top

757
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: recommended online shows and videos and all that kind of stuff.

758
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: I'll link to that in this blog post. But also

759
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: for books, I've got a huge recommended reading list. But

760
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: I thought i'd share a couple of my favorites for

761
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: any of you readers out there, And like you just mentioned, Dan,

762
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: one of them is called The Last Stand, and it's

763
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: the story of the buffalo, the American bison, and George

764
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: Bird Grinnell, who was the original founder and editor of

765
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: Forest and Stream magazine which eventually became Field and Stream,

766
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: which obviously we all know today. UM, super interesting story about,

767
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, how the whole you know, what happened with

768
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: buffalo in America, how they were nearly extirpated, how they

769
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: nearly went extinct, and then how people like George Berg

770
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: Grennell and Teddy Roosevelt and some of these other guys

771
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: were able to intervene and change a lot of things

772
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: to allow that species to recover. And all the other

773
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: big game species now like deer and elk and bears

774
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: and everything else out there. But basically these guys, these

775
00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: hunter conservationists who who've talked about before, Um, they where

776
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: our forefathers that allow us to now do what we

777
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: do today. So it was a great book examining that

778
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: history and um Man super interesting both from a story

779
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: standpoint and like the history of us as hunters and conservations.

780
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: So I'd highly recommend that to anyone who wants to

781
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: better understand, you know, the history of conservation and how

782
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: we hunters actually you know, are our our ancestors were

783
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: a big part of that. So I'll get you that book, Dan,

784
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: because I think you'll like it. Sweet sweet um. On

785
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: the conservation standpoint, another really good one is The Sand

786
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: County Almanac by Ela Leopold. This is a book that

787
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: kind of established a lot of the conservation ethic that

788
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: we still follow today about ecosystems and how hunting can

789
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: fit into that and and all sorts of stuff. So

790
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: that's a really good one to read on a conservation standpoint.

791
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: Um any of the books by Steven Ronella. We were

792
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: talked about Ronelle, but he's got three like novels out um,

793
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: well not novels, but three nonfiction books that I really

794
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: recommended all that kind of cover all Steve's different hunting

795
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: adventures and things like that, Um, The Scavenger's Guide to

796
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: Hot Cuisine, Meat Eater, and The American Buffalo, which is

797
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: another interesting look at the story of buffalo and conservation

798
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: in America, and then his own personal hunt for buffalo.

799
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: Those are three really good ones. UM. When we had

800
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: Shane Mahoney on Dan, I don't know if you remember

801
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: me mentioned this book, but it's a book called The

802
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: Hunter's Heart. That's a really good one. UM. It's a

803
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: series of different essays and short stories by a whole

804
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: bunch of different people, UM, all about hunting and various

805
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: topics related to conservation ethics, how we talk about hunting. UM,

806
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of different things. I think we

807
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: hunters should just be thinking about. Um. That's a really

808
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: good one. UM. So so those are some good ones

809
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: that are kind of like thinker books, UM, that make

810
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: you think about hunting and the deferent aspects of it

811
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: if you just like good stories. Field and Stream released

812
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: a book like a year or two ago, like the

813
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: Best Hunting Story, His Best American Hunting Stories. I think,

814
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: um that was a fun one. UM. Bill Heavee is

815
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: a writer for Field and Stream. He does like the

816
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: back page column. I don't know if you've ever seen

817
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: his back page articles, but they're super funny. He's got

818
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: three books that are really good um as far as

819
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: like learning about hunting, like educational stuff. Here's something that

820
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: i'd recommend. We had John Eberhardt on the show this

821
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: past summer, and if you listen to the episode, you

822
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: know he's got a wealth of information. Well, he co

823
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: authored three books with his son that that are terrific.

824
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: One was Precision bow Hunting, another one is bow Hunting

825
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: white Tail's Eberhart Way, and I think another one's Jeez

826
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: Hunting Highly Pressured white Tails or something like that. And

827
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: then his son Chris wrote one called white Tail Access,

828
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: which is a really cool book that followed his one

829
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: single hunting season. This is when you would like about

830
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: a lot dan um. It follows his hunting season where

831
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: he lived out of a van and hunted like all

832
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: across the country and like did a super cheap like

833
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: on a shoe string budget. Like he lived in his van.

834
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: He showered with like a bucket of water, he ate

835
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: cold soup every night, and hunted in Wisconsin and North

836
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: Dakota and Missouri and uh shoot a couple other places,

837
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Michigan a little bit. Um. And then within throughout that story,

838
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: each place he went he went into detail of like

839
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: how we scouted, how we set up diagrams of where

840
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: he hung his tree stands. It's like a great story

841
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: and educational. So, um, that's a really good one. I

842
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: think I think you should checked that one out. What

843
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: was the name of that again? White Tail access by

844
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: by Chris Eberhardt. Um, Jeff Sturgis, we've had him on

845
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: the show a couple of times. Um, you remember him

846
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: right then? We enjoyed that. He's got three books now.

847
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: He just released his third book, so white Tail Success

848
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: by design white Tail Food Plots by design and Mature

849
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: Buck Hunting by Designer. Yeah, Mature Buck Success by Designer.

850
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: His three books, those are really good. I'm just starting

851
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: his third one. Um, I'm gonna I'm not gonna try

852
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: to run through every single book and think of what

853
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: the ebra hard books are great. Craig and Neil Doherty,

854
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: we've had both of them on the show. They have

855
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: several books that are great. We've had Don Higgins on

856
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: the show. His books are great. Um. And then the

857
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: third one. Have you ever seen the book mapping Trophy Bucks.

858
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: I am not. That's when you should check out for sure.

859
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: It's by Brad Herndon and basically the whole book is

860
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: um it's basically all about how various terrain features and

861
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: topography influenced deer movement and how you can set up

862
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: on that. Um. So there's lots of maps, top all

863
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: maps and diagrams and all sort of stuff, covers you know,

864
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: how dear use ridges, how they use funnels, how they

865
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: use saddles and ridges, all sorts of stuff like that.

866
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: So really good detailed book for if you want to

867
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: learn about how dear you use terrain. I want to

868
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: get Brad on the show someday. UM. So that's a

869
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: good one too. UM. I've got a million of other recommendations.

870
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here looking at my bookshelf and it's it's

871
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: stacked with books. But I won't run through too many

872
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: of these. But check out the blog post. I'll link

873
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: to it. Our Ultimate, Our Ultimate Recommended Reading Lists for

874
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: hunters has got tons of books. If you like to read,

875
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of recommendations for you there. You

876
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: happen to have anything like white Tail cliff notes, like

877
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: hunting white Tail cliff notes or Hunting white Tail for

878
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: Dummies that might be right up my alley. Yeah, there's

879
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: a couple out there that my phone like category this

880
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: is a buck, this is a dough that would be

881
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: helpful when but yeah, those cold books that recommend you

882
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: should definitely check those out, Dan, Um, I think there's

883
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff out there. Do you read

884
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: any hunting magazines? Yes? I do? What about those guttny

885
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: you like? Well, I tell you what I grew up on,

886
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: field and stream and outdoor life, mainly outdoor life. Um

887
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: I my favorite. When I was growing up, my dad

888
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: would get those where my mom would get those magazines

889
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: for me and uh, I love the cartoon the illustration

890
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: about uh, something crazy that happened in the woods, like

891
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: a guy you know, falls out of his canoe on

892
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: a canoe trip and he has to survive until you know,

893
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: he gets up enough energy to walk, you know, through

894
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: the woods to a road. Or a guy gets attacked

895
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: by a bear, or a guy shoots. This is my

896
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: favorite one. I'll always remember it. Guy gets a brand

897
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: new rifle for Christmas, he goes out, he shoots, uh,

898
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: he shoots a buck. He sets his rifle in the

899
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: rack of the buck steps back to take take a picture.

900
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: When the camera flashed, went off, the buck got up,

901
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: ran away with his rifle in his rack. You know,

902
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: those kind of crazy stories. But that's the same. Yeah,

903
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: that on top of all the other great content that

904
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: Outdoor Life is you know, put out through the decades

905
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: that they've been a magazine. Yeah, they're getting a little

906
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: bit uh, a little bit lax with their standards of

907
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: who they let in their magazine though, now Dan, oh yeah,

908
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: just anybody can do it. Well, if that Kenyan guy

909
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: can get in there, it's say, agreed, Agreed, No, I

910
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: I agree with in all seriousness, love what they're doing

911
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: Outdoor Life in Field and Stream Um great, you know,

912
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: I really enjoy you know, especially the stories, like the

913
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: adventure stories and great photography, and and then also the

914
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: fact that they do tackle both those magazines tackle some

915
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: of the tougher topics that you know, we like to

916
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: try to talk about here, the conservation or ethics or

917
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: different things like that that we try to speak speak

918
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: to sometimes that you don't see a whole lot in

919
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: other magazines. And I think they do a good job

920
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: of of touching on that. Just the most recent issue

921
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: of Field and Stream and Outdoor Life both both kind

922
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: of cover stuff like that, like in Field and Stream

923
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: the most recent episode issue. I don't know if if

924
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: you saw the most recent issue or not UM, but

925
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: there's like a kind of a state of the white

926
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Tail in the Country again, so covering a whole bunch

927
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: of things and how things have changed over the last

928
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: five years, which interestingly, we are going to have hopefully

929
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: knock on would if if the everything goes it's supposed

930
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: to next week, we are going to have a State

931
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: of the white Tail report with Kip Adams like we

932
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: had last year, but we're in due the two thousand

933
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: and sixteen edition now and get all the updates on

934
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: what's new in the white tail world, so that would

935
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: be good. But they did kind of a version of

936
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: that in Field and Stream, which was interesting, and then

937
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Outdoor Life did a whole feature about the North American

938
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: model of conservation, the North American Wildlife UM kind of

939
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: conservation ethic, and they cover the seven kind of main

940
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: principles and we've talked about that with I think with

941
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: Shane Mahoney we talked about that UM. But they're they're

942
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: kind of examining each one of those different principles and

943
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: then you know maybe how things need to be updated

944
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, or what we need to focus on

945
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: here in the in the nude kind of generation. So

946
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: that was interesting. We're checking out. Um, do you read

947
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: any of the deer magazines? I have a subscription into

948
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: a North American White Tail, you know, fun stories and

949
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: that I love. The big buck stories are kind of cool.

950
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: Ye yep. I like North American Whitetail and deer and

951
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: deer hunting is good. One quality White Tails, the magazine

952
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: from Qualitier Management Association is really really great if you're

953
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: interested in the management stuff, habitat improvement, food plotting, um,

954
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: you know, aging deer, all that kind of stuff. Great

955
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: resource for that type of thing too, right. Um, you

956
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: know what magazine I really love That's become like one

957
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: of my favorites. And it's interesting because I only hunt

958
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: out a week or two a year, But Bogle Magazine,

959
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: the magazine produced by the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, It's

960
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: like maybe the best hunting related magazine out there over everything.

961
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm I think like they just do an awesome job,

962
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: like really great stories, deep deep stories. Um, it's just

963
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: like really good writing. It's thick, it's full of like

964
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: lengthy in depth articles that lots of times you don't

965
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: get in some of the other magazines that I really

966
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: like it. Um. If you're not a member of the

967
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain of Foundation, it's worth joining just to get

968
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: the magazine. UM. Stuff like that one a lot. Yeah,

969
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: North American Whitetail has been in my mailbox for a

970
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: while now, and it's it's one of those where not

971
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: only do you get to see how average Joe's basically

972
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: or are killing big deer, and it also brings a

973
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: little strategy into it, you know that you know obviously

974
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 1: the wind direction and the food plots and or you know, hey,

975
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: I pulled my truck up to a piece of public land,

976
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: was my first day hunting, and I shot a deer. Yeah,

977
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: you definitely do get some of those, ye, But yeah,

978
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those fun, fun ones because for

979
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: the most part, most of those stories are just average

980
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: guys you know, and their giant deer, so you can

981
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of it's like a relatable way to German about

982
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: big deer. I guess, so I like that a lot. Um.

983
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, the Peterson's magazines are good. I like those.

984
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Eastman's Western magazines are good. I like those. Um, I

985
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: think those are most of the hunting magazines that I

986
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: check out. Anything else that that we haven't covered on

987
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: that front, Oh Man, I know this is a hunting

988
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: or a deer hunting podcast, But whenever I got Field

989
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: and Stream for some reason when I was in high school,

990
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: I loved fishing, and in Field and Stream they had

991
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: a ton of ways to detailed ways about how to

992
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: work your reel and rod and and how to you

993
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: know what structure underneath the water you should be focusing

994
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: on on different times types of year or a different

995
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: times a year. And um, I went to Fuel and

996
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Stream a lot for my for my fishing information. Yeah,

997
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: they've got them and out There Life. They both have

998
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: some good fishing content. I've been getting really into fly

999
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: fishing recently since I was out west last summer seven,

1000
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: buying a bunch of fly fishing magazines too. There's some,

1001
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: there's some. They do a great job with photography, I've noticed,

1002
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: like the fly fishing magazines have got some of the

1003
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: best photography of anything I've seen out there, just like

1004
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: they've got these full like two page spreads of like

1005
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: just unbelievable photos that like just like suck you into

1006
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: the environment. I think we need to try to get

1007
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: that brought into the hunting world a little bit better

1008
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: because they're they're knocking out of the park. Do you

1009
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: when you go out fly fishing? Do you catch fish

1010
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: every day? You catch fish every day? So they got

1011
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: some time too. It's not like deer hunting where you

1012
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: can go walk around the woods and uh take pictures

1013
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: because you scoop the deer. But for fly fishing, if

1014
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: you you may have some spare time to take some

1015
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: extra pictures, It's true, that's true. They're definitely worth time.

1016
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: It might be just because I'm an awful fly fisherman dance.

1017
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: That's definitely possible. So so those are the magazines we've covered,

1018
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: shows and videos and books and magazines. What about what

1019
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: about what we're doing right here podcasting? Do you listen

1020
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: to any other hunting related podcasts? Yeah, I tell you,

1021
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: I've got into the uh um oh hunt talk with

1022
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: what's his name Randy Newberg? Randy Newberg obviously, but on

1023
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: the way to the A t A this show, uh

1024
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: this year A t A show this year. I probably

1025
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: listened to six j Scott Outdoors podcasts, and although it's

1026
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: very some of them, some of them were very specific

1027
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: on like mule deer in what zone and stuff like

1028
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: that that probably doesn't for it was just how they

1029
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: did it and the way they did it that and

1030
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: they're basically just told a story or you know, about

1031
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: what they did when they went on these hunts or

1032
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: what they're going to do, and it was I find

1033
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: I found it pretty interesting. Although it's way out of

1034
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: my element, I found it interesting. And I consumed a

1035
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: lot of Jay Scott Outdoors podcast and that's that's all

1036
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: Western hunting and fishing, right, ye, Western, Let's see. I

1037
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: don't think they even he I don't know if I've

1038
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: ever heard a podcast with him talk about white tales. Yeah,

1039
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't think I have either. But uh, but to

1040
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: your point, interesting stuff about elk and mule deer and

1041
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: if you want to do Western hunting, that's a good

1042
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: one to check out. Another Western podcast that I've been

1043
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of good things about is The Gritty Bowman.

1044
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: That's supposed to be really good one. I've got to

1045
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: check that out a little bit. Sounds like they're doing

1046
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: a good job. Um. And then I agree with you.

1047
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: I really enjoy Randy's hunt Talk podcast. That's great. And

1048
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: then um, the Meat Eater podcast from Ronnella of course

1049
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: enjoy his his conversations on there. Those are the two.

1050
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: Those are the two hunting podcasts that I like listen

1051
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: to regularly. Those are the only two hunting podcasts I

1052
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: listened to like consistently. I'm gonna always listen to all

1053
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: those episodes. They're just good for Both of those do

1054
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: a really good job of just diving into issues and

1055
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: thinking about different things and just getting in the nuts

1056
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: and bolts that they're not necessarily tactic focus. Sometimes they

1057
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about tactic, but mostly it's about

1058
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: a place or a certain issue going on, um or

1059
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that, which I enjoy. Yeah. Um, oh what

1060
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: else is out there? The Big Buck Registry is another

1061
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: good deer hunting podcast. They focus primarily in more stories

1062
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: like they bring in someone and they have them share

1063
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: their deer hunting story. Um, but that's a good one. Um.

1064
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: Michigan out of Doors has been running a podcast recently

1065
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: but which I got to check out, and they're doing

1066
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: a good job. Oh gosh, there's a gear podcast out there.

1067
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: There's a deer hunting gear podcast. Um, that kind of

1068
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: it's okay. The guy who does it's a huge douche.

1069
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he's the worst. He's really the worstst

1070
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: The Nine Finger Chronicles podcast is awesome. That's another good

1071
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: one to check out, right, that's right. It's probably the second.

1072
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: It's probably the second most popular podcast period on the Internet,

1073
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: and primarily because of the interview you did with Quiet

1074
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: Cat that I saw just recently. Tell me you got

1075
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: us a free cup Quiet Cat. Oh I did not.

1076
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't. It's not like a dozen arrows from Easton.

1077
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: They can't just they can't just ship me a quiet cast.

1078
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: I just all I want is like you just leaned

1079
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: over a little tiny quiet cat scooting through the woods.

1080
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: That is a vision I want to see. Oh man,

1081
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I have to put like a bicycle ringer on it,

1082
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: or like a horn on it, bling bling bling bling ling. Yeah,

1083
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: that'd be good. Yeah, we gotta we gotta do our

1084
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 1: shameless plugs, right, oh yeah, not unfair Chronicle is great.

1085
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: And then the other podcast that I run is The

1086
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: White Tail Q and a podcast answering listeners submitted questions.

1087
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: So those are definitely too that hopefully right, but hopefully

1088
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: we're doing a good job with us. So the Wired

1089
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: Hunt podcast, let's see, it's on a different level. It's

1090
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: on a different level. You think it's it's past the stratosphere. Well,

1091
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: if I, if you weren't blown smoke on my ass,

1092
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: would be pretty happy about that. Oh and the cool

1093
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: thing about this is, I don't know about you, but

1094
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: I get emails every single day with guys saying I

1095
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: tell you what, and not all of them led to

1096
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: a successful season in them in the means of a kill.

1097
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: But hey, they they they say, Dan and Mark, thanks

1098
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: for you know, putting this content out on the podcast

1099
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: with so and so. I got some um got some

1100
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: advice and I implemented that into the woods and it

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00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: got me close or I got my first buck kill,

1102
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: or I got the buck that I was after for

1103
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: three years. Now. You know, one little thing that that

1104
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: they learned on this podcast could help them be successful

1105
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: or get closer. That's that's rewarding. That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1106
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: and all and all honesty. You know, I don't know

1107
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: how the Wired Hunt podcast stacks up compared all the

1108
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: others out there, but I sure I'm thankful that it

1109
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: sounds like you know, like you said, we get tons

1110
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: of messages and reviews and tweets and Facebook messages and

1111
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: everything about people that have found it helpful, and that

1112
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 1: is super cool. I'm just so glad that we can

1113
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: help people out and that people enjoy it and either

1114
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, helping someone kill a deer or just

1115
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: helping them get through a long day at work. Um,

1116
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: like you said, very rewarding. So so I hope that

1117
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, it seems like from what we're hearing, seems

1118
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: like people are enjoying it, and I hope we can

1119
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: continue to to do a good job. So we gotta

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00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: we gotta step it up, Dan, we gotta keep it going.

1121
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as Plateau's anymore. We have to

1122
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: continually take it to the next level. I agree, Okay, Mark,

1123
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Let's stick to it. So

1124
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: I think that covers most of the podcasts that I

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00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: can think of off the top of my head. Anything. Oh,

1126
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I enjoy the Joe Rogan podcast when

1127
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: he has someone on related to hunting. You ever listening

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00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: to Joe's stuff? Yes, I have, especially like the gym Shocky,

1129
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: the the Cameron Haynes episodes, those are two that stick out.

1130
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: I know he's had other hunt is on there, but

1131
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: those are two. I think he had rebby Warren Onto

1132
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: and then he's had like six with with what excuse

1133
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: me with Ronnellalla. Yeah, so yeah, I can think those

1134
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: are the ones I know of Ronella Shocky, Warren Haynes,

1135
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, as far as I can think, So

1136
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: those are those are fun to listen to. What about

1137
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: other resources? Are there any other whether it's online or

1138
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: anything else, any other deer hunting or just hunting in

1139
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: general resources that you like to check out? Blogs, websites, forums,

1140
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 1: any of that. I tell you I stay away from.

1141
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: I try to stay away from forums. Um, I've been,

1142
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: you know. I used to be a part of Hunting

1143
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: Fool on that website where that gave you a whole

1144
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: bunch of information on Western like zone stats and success

1145
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: rates and all that stuff, and the forums and that

1146
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: there was good information, but obviously it had to pay

1147
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: to get the good stuff. But some of those forums,

1148
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: especially you know, I'll just say it archery talk. I

1149
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: just feel that if you ask a question there might

1150
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: be a couple of sincere answers, but then they always

1151
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: go off on a tangent and they throw hate towards

1152
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: somebody else's response and it and it quickly goes off

1153
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: of the actual topic. So, and that was just there's

1154
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: like two or three examples that I asked. I asked

1155
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: some questions. Um, I know it's not all like that,

1156
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: but I just kind of got a sour taste in

1157
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: my mouth for my first time experiences. Yeah, I definitely

1158
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: experienced that too. I used to be more engaged on

1159
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: forums back in the day, but I've had a lot

1160
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: of experiences like that where just a lot of people

1161
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: get nasty. Like you said, that's not all the time.

1162
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: There's plenty of great forums out there and this good

1163
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: stuff and it can be helpful, but it's a bummer

1164
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: when it just gets into a bunch of trolls yelling

1165
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,919
Speaker 1: at people. Right, And I've got some good information off

1166
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: some of those off some of those sites, but not

1167
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: thing that you know, would want me to continually go back. Yeah.

1168
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: You know, one forum though that I do actually go

1169
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: to to learn stuff and like that I have found

1170
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: consistently positive is dan in Faults for um hunt. I

1171
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: think that's just a bunch of hardcore guys, super hardcore. Yeah.

1172
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: That's luckily you know, I know that we're doing things

1173
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: right here on the word hunt podcast when people from

1174
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: the Hunting Beast like what we're doing, because those are

1175
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: like hardcore serious hunters, um, and so it's always nice

1176
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: to hear that they're enjoying the podcast. And so that's

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01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: a good one if you if you really want to

1178
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: get into some serious d I y stuff and talk

1179
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: about stuff and getting the nitty gritty. Um, there's some

1180
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: cool things on that site. UM. Yeah that's about it

1181
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: for forums for me. Bowinning dot com has got a

1182
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: pretty good forum, UM, but I just don't have as

1183
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: much time for it as I used to. Deer and

1184
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: Deer Hunting as a forum that I used to be

1185
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: active on back in the day, but again no more

1186
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: time now. UM. I check a lot of different deer

1187
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: hunting blogs, um, you know, because I do the Friday

1188
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: more in a mash up post every Friday, UM where

1189
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: I kind of highlight what I think are the top

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: articles from various hunting blogs across the world wide Web.

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: So I check a bunch of those, um for like

1192
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: conservation stuff. You know, we talked the other day about

1193
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: how it's kind of hard to stay on top of

1194
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: conservation issues, you know. UM. Three blogs that I followed

1195
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: to keep up on that stuff, which I highly recommend

1196
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: are the Open Country Blog from Outdoor Life, The Conservationist,

1197
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: which is one of the fielding stream blogs, and then

1198
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: the TRCP blog from the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership who

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01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: we talked to with from the other day. Those are

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01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: three blogs that share a lot of conservation stuff. UM.

1201
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: There's some good hunting stuff like hunting articles and tips

1202
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: and stuff on the Antler Geeks website which some of

1203
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: my friends from some of my friends run. UM. Real

1204
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: tree dot com has got some good articles. UM. Cutie

1205
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: may dot com is another one, especially, like I've mentioned before,

1206
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: if you suely interested in the habitat and managements of

1207
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: the best resources out there for that UM which speaking of,

1208
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier that Kip's going to be on the

1209
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: show here soon to talk about the state of the

1210
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: white Tail Union for two thousands sixteen. UM. They just

1211
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: released their two thousand sixteen white Tail Report, which is

1212
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: you gotta check it out if you haven't yet. Dan

1213
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: um incredible resource kind of outlining all the different harvest

1214
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: data from this past year, from the most recent season.

1215
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: That stuff's available for and all sorts of different current

1216
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: issues going on with deer um really interesting. You can

1217
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: download that. It's a great pdf you and downland for

1218
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: free from their website. So that's a great resource. Um.

1219
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: What else here? Any other sites you follow? Blogs or anything? Um?

1220
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: You know? I do occasionally go to the Outdoor life one,

1221
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: but that's about it, you know. Um. Jeff Sturgis is

1222
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: white Tail Habitat Solutions website is a good one. He's

1223
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: got some good articles throughout the year. The post um

1224
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: recommend that. I think those are all main websites and

1225
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: resources that I follow. There's a ton and like I

1226
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: mentioned the Friday morn mashup, check out where to hunt

1227
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: on Friday. As usually I try to link up as

1228
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: many different articles as I can find there. Um, if

1229
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: you're looking for news sites to follow, that's a good

1230
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: spot to get some some ideas too, So perfect. I

1231
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: don't know man any other any other resources deer hunting

1232
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: crap that you like to follow on a cold, nasty

1233
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: day when you can't go outside. Anything worth getting. I

1234
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: think we mentioned a majority of it all, right. I

1235
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: think that's about all I've got too, So plus I

1236
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: hear my daughter screaming upstairs, so that brings my podcast

1237
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: time to an end. I did do that. I was like,

1238
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: all right, Dan's about to have to scoot the house,

1239
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: so hopefully I hope this is interesting. We weren't necessarily

1240
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: sharing tips or stories or anything, but you know, some

1241
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: some good resources to check out. So we will have

1242
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: links to as much of the stuff as I can

1243
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: remember on the Wired Hunt blog for this podcast, so

1244
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: be sure to check that out. And uh, otherwise, you know,

1245
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: if you've been enjoying this show, please do leave a

1246
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: rating or review on iTunes. That's a huge help. Uh,

1247
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: make sure to check out the two other podcasts we

1248
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: mentioned that Dan and I run the White Tail Q

1249
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: and a podcast in the Nine Finger Chronicles podcast. Um,

1250
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: and of course we do need to think our partners

1251
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: who helped make the wire Dump podcast possible, so big

1252
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: thank you too, Sick of Gear, Trophy, Ridge Bear Archery,

1253
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: Redneck Blinds, Hunter Maps, Ozonics, Carbon Express, Lacrosse Boots, and

1254
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: the White Tail Institute of North America. And with that, Dan,

1255
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna wrap things up. And one final thing, Dan,

1256
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm waiting for you to host a podcast. How

1257
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: soon are we gonna do that? When are you going

1258
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: to host an episode? Well, let me get some things

1259
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: set up. I think I know what I want to do. Um,

1260
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: it's actually it's not going to be a joke. I'm

1261
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: not gonna get Rick Flair or Haul Cogan on the show,

1262
01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: although I would like to. I think got I think

1263
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: maybe in March. All right, sweet, I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: I liked the idea you float it out there the

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Speaker 1: other day, so if that ends up happening, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be pretty cool episode. So I think everyone, Um, it'll

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Speaker 1: be fun from the standpoint that you'll be hosting and

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Speaker 1: I could be lazy, but also it sounds like we'll

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Speaker 1: learn some good stuff too, so it sounds good. All

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Speaker 1: right man, Well, thank you everyone for listening. We appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: hopefully as these resources will come in handy for you

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Speaker 1: on some cold days in the future. And until next time,

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Speaker 1: have a great week and stay wired to hunt.