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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. I

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Speaker 2: am your host, John Herricks Football and I a sideline reporter,

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Speaker 2: and Mark Vandermire, the Voice of the Texans, joins me

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Speaker 2: and Mark. I had to think about what day it was.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: What everybody's got what day it is? Syndrome.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is very easy, easy to do. Drew Doordy

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Speaker 2: and I will go in the lab a little later.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna geek out on some numerology. I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 2: the question to start. Mark, I have something else I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about, pretty interesting from I had this

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Speaker 2: teed up yesterday to talk about. But we can get

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Speaker 2: to it. But I want to get to it today.

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Speaker 2: But something came up in our talk about in the lab.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know what. I'm gonna give you a

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Speaker 1: hot take. You rate the sizzle fires, all right, I'll

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: Andre Johnson's number eighty is not retired, but it doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to be retired.

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Speaker 1: It will never be worn again.

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Speaker 3: I would say that's one one and a half at most.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it'll ever be worn again. Well, we

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Speaker 3: asked Andre, Yeah, I mean you were here. Yeah, We

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Speaker 3: asked him in this studio, would you give it up

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Speaker 3: for some Let's say a kid comes out of the

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Speaker 3: University of Miami in five years that he's drafted in

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Speaker 3: the first round of the Houston Texans that he wants

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Speaker 3: to wear number eighty to honor Andre. We asked him,

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Speaker 3: would you give it up? He said no, no, So

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Speaker 3: I think there's there's that. But also, you know, Andre

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Speaker 3: were number five at Miami. Yeah, and I think he

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Speaker 3: would have worn five if you had come here, no question.

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Speaker 3: But you couldn't have single digits at that point. You

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Speaker 3: couldn't have a receiver. Nobody could have single digits other

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Speaker 3: than quarterbacks, punters. Now everybody could wear single digits. I

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Speaker 3: told you my story about that, right, what's that? I

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Speaker 3: had him sign something for a sponsor or somebody once.

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Speaker 3: This is in the early days of Andre, maybe year two, three,

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Speaker 3: whatever of Andre's career here and I looked at the number,

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Speaker 3: and you know, people signed stuff and it's all very.

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Speaker 1: Hard to reach it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm thinking that doesn't even look

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Speaker 3: close to an eighty.

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Speaker 1: That looks like a single What is that? Is that

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Speaker 1: a five way?

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Speaker 3: And then I was running it by somebody, and I

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Speaker 3: didn't know that. If you sign something related to your college,

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Speaker 3: because it was a University of Miami thing that he

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Speaker 3: was signing, you sign it with the college number, not

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Speaker 3: the pro number.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense. And I didn't know that, So I

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Speaker 1: guess it was a hurricane hat or something.

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Speaker 4: Whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a hurricane thing he was signing.

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Speaker 3: But he was here already, and that's the proper way

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Speaker 3: to do it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that I would. Yeah, so if you

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Speaker 1: just randomly.

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Speaker 2: Hey, sheet paper, Hey Andre co have your autograph slot

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Speaker 2: a sheet of paper over, he would sign probably number

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Speaker 2: eighty or HOF.

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Speaker 1: Now now you can put HOF on there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but is it three seventy five or three seventy eight,

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Speaker 5: whatever his number is.

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Speaker 1: Now it's incredible thing.

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Speaker 3: All I'm very aware to put heismand eighty nine right.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes he puts College Football Hall for CFB HOF or

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Speaker 3: something like that, because hey, he's in the Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame of College Football and a Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 2: Well, apparently Belichick signs all of his Super Bowls on

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Speaker 2: his autograph.

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Speaker 1: While we saw that dates twenty four year olds at

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Speaker 1: the same time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but maybe he only does that for the twenty

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Speaker 3: four years. Maybe he's twenty one at the time that

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Speaker 3: he signed.

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Speaker 2: So when he did the two bills, I'm thirty for thirty,

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Speaker 2: which I love that documentary.

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Speaker 1: It tells a lot of the lot of the story.

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Speaker 2: He signed the table and he signed all theah as

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Speaker 2: he was doing at Barcelles.

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Speaker 1: What's giving him? Barcels was giving him the business about it.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to fit them all

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Speaker 1: on there bill, Yeah, and he did. Hels has two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got two and look, I'd like to just

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Speaker 2: have one at some point. I saw this yesterday and

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Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on this. If I'll

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Speaker 2: preface what I'm about to say with this question, everybody

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Speaker 2: healthy on the offensive line? Could you see the Texans

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Speaker 2: being a top ten offensive line in the NFL in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four if everybody's healthy, everybody healthy? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think they could be a top ten offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Well, how are we grading this?

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Speaker 2: Well, friends, it's a more subjective argument, discussion, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Is it your friends? And I say that in air

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Speaker 3: quotes at No No Football, it actually is.

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Speaker 2: It actually is not Brandon Thorne, who covers he basically

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Speaker 2: knows the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: That's what he that we focus is on, and he

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Speaker 5: does a really good job. He's been studying the offensive line.

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Speaker 5: He's always at Duke Manning Weather's camp. He's always he

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Speaker 5: knows the offensive line really, really well. So he's got

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Speaker 5: a website called established run dot com where he ranked

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Speaker 5: the offensive lines in the in the NFL. He tweet

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Speaker 5: tweeted this or posted this as best I could this

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Speaker 5: early in the league calendar, I ranked all thirty two

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Speaker 5: offensive line units into tears. I have the Texans as

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Speaker 5: a top ten overall unit entering twenty twenty four. He

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Speaker 5: does high end talent, depth system quarterback. It's all there

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Speaker 5: for the offensive line to thrive. So that's what he said.

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Speaker 5: It's at number ten, he said. He here is his notes.

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Speaker 5: His starting lineup is what a lot of people talked about.

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Speaker 5: Larimer left tackle, Kenny Green left guard, Juice at center,

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Speaker 5: Shack Mace right guard, Titus the right tackle.

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Speaker 2: He said Houston's offensive line performed admirably last season in

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Speaker 2: the face of extensive injuries and turnover at left guard, center,

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Speaker 2: and right tackle, thanks in large part to having two

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Speaker 2: elite players and laram May, Tomsall and Shaq Mason shouldered

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Speaker 2: the load and pick up the slack, while offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: Bobby Slowick's array of effective wrinkles covered.

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Speaker 1: Up weaknesses and pass protection.

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Speaker 2: Add in hitting a home run with quarterbacks CJ Strout

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Speaker 2: as a rookie, and it's easy to see how they

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Speaker 2: were able to overcome some bad luck with injuries, riding

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Speaker 2: the good vibes of an overachieving season in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three to this year, with crucial experience gained for key

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Speaker 2: Depp pieces, depth pieces Jared Patterson, Kendrick Green and clean

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Speaker 2: bill of health to starters Titus Howard and Juice Scrugs

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Speaker 2: and a talent injection and tackle via the draft and

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Speaker 2: Blake Fisher, and the ingredients are in place for an

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Speaker 2: even better unit this season.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack with what he just talked about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I tend to I tend to kind of

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Speaker 2: agree with what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think if they're healthy, that's continuity right there.

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Speaker 3: Right you're playing together a lot that makes you better.

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Speaker 3: The fact that you have Stroud and as mary band

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Speaker 3: of pass catchers and Joe Mixon running the ball along

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Speaker 3: with Damian whatever he can do for you this year.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be making plays, they'll be moving the ball,

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Speaker 3: and that is an all boats rise with the tide

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Speaker 3: kind of thing. For the O line, you usually it

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Speaker 3: starts with the ON line, and it does start still

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Speaker 3: with the O line. But you're gonna get results, You're

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Speaker 3: gonna get dividends paid on anything positive they do. You know,

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Speaker 3: you could have a good O line or a better

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Speaker 3: O line with poorer personnel, all right, or poor personnel.

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Speaker 3: How good is that O line really going to seem

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Speaker 3: to people like this who evaluate offensive lines now, people

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Speaker 3: like you who really look deeply within you know, when

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Speaker 3: you talk about individuals, Joe Thomas for years, best left

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Speaker 3: tackle around on a terrible Cleveland Brown. Terrible historically, right,

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Speaker 3: you go back in history of this league, in the

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Speaker 3: history of this league and look at some of the

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Speaker 3: linemen with great accolades. John Hannah for the New England

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Speaker 3: about how great a guard he was, but for a

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Speaker 3: lot of bad teams, some good ones, but mostly bad teams.

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Speaker 3: This is way before the super Bowl era of Patriots football.

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Speaker 3: So certain individuals stand out, But do lines. If you

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Speaker 3: have a really good line, can you have a good

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Speaker 3: line and a bad team or a sub performing team,

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Speaker 3: doesn't the line make your team so much better. If

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Speaker 3: you have a really good line, you're running the ball,

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Speaker 3: and even an average quarterback should be able to make

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Speaker 3: plays with a good line where you're running the ball.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Texans, they'll be a good line,

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Speaker 3: and they'll look even better.

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Speaker 1: And maybe they'll be excellent.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but they'll look even better when you

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Speaker 3: have the playmaking ability and the productivity of this skill

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Speaker 3: set you have around them.

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Speaker 5: I think this sentence right here kind of this. This

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Speaker 5: is a piece that doesn't get talked about enough.

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Speaker 2: Add in hitting a home run with quarterback CJ Straut

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Speaker 1: And I say that we all know CJ.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was incredible twenty twenty three, and we

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Speaker 2: hope that he's gonna do that twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 2: beyond like But CJ's as helpful in his past protection

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Speaker 1: He can cover up some of that.

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Speaker 5: I think the other piece he talked about was Bobby

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Speaker 5: Slowik and how Bobby was able to overcome that.

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Speaker 1: Now it comes at a cost.

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Speaker 5: Last year when we played the Steelers, you had Austin

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Speaker 5: Deculus and Drown Christian playing left tackle, and they were

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Speaker 5: rotating like every other series or two to one or

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Speaker 1: They were alterating throughout the game.

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Speaker 2: But to make sure that high Smith or Watt just

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Speaker 2: would use tight ends. They would take Dalton Schultz a

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Speaker 2: lot of times out of the passing game to help,

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Speaker 2: and they would help on the other side. At that point,

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Speaker 2: Team Quatoriana was playing, so he would help George fanat

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Speaker 2: they needed and they didn't give up a sack to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. So Bobby came up with good plants. Chris

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Speaker 2: Strauser did a great job with that line, called Popovich

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Speaker 2: his assistant, the old line assistant. Those guys do a

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Speaker 2: great job with that unit. But Bobby coming up with

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Speaker 2: game plans to not leave those guys completely on islands. Now,

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Speaker 2: larrem me you can Laramie, look, we're not giving you help.

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Speaker 2: You got Miles Garrett all day every day you got

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Speaker 2: Micael Parsons all day, every day.

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Speaker 5: If he hops over on your side, you got it.

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Speaker 5: We're not giving you help.

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Speaker 2: There might be times when when help might come your

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Speaker 2: way just based on the formation, but you got it

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Speaker 2: all by yourself. To me, that's such a feather in

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Speaker 2: the cap. But CJ's Bobby Silowick's creativity and intelligence as

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Speaker 2: it comes to pass protection, CJ's ability to get rid

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Speaker 2: he does get a little bit of pressure. You add

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Speaker 2: all that in and the as protection can be pretty good.

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Speaker 2: But you think about that line they had against the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: And I love that. You have to have that attitude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was interesting because he said, you know

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Speaker 1: And that that's basically what he was saying. He was like,

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Speaker 3: By the way, you bring up that Steelers game from

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Speaker 1: Oh it was not much. It was one thirty nine though,

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Speaker 3: So Damian Pierce this is when he was still started.

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Speaker 1: But the Steelers were they were.

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Speaker 3: The Texans were determined to run the ball in this game,

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Speaker 1: This game combined with peer s eighty one.

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Speaker 3: That shows me that's a gameplay football right there, that

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Speaker 3: they decided we got to hammer the ball. Yeah, keep

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Speaker 3: them honest, right, I'll put that in air quotes and

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Speaker 1: And they clearly did.

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Speaker 5: And that's back to my point about Bobby. Bobby Slow

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Speaker 5: And you can't make that a throw You can't make

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Speaker 5: Thirty thirty, Like he goes back twenty more time, you

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Speaker 5: throw it fifty times like you did. I think he

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Speaker 5: Now against the Bucks, you did have Laramie back and

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Speaker 1: That was Bobby.

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Speaker 2: That was Look, we can't allow our left tackle to

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Speaker 2: We got to we gotta do something. Maybe we're not

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Speaker 2: of importance, Okay, Titus Howard playing well at right tackle

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Speaker 2: One to ten, ten being absolute must one being doesn't

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Speaker 1: Titus Howard's importance at right tackle.

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Speaker 2: Presumably we're all thinking that's where he's gonna go, where

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Speaker 3: I think it's very important, Johnny, because think about the

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Speaker 1: If Titus has to move.

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Speaker 3: To guard for some reason, let's just go there, all right,

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Speaker 3: it's offseason. Let's just discuss here. Yeah, before I give

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Speaker 3: we don't know, no, noact, no one comes into play exactly.

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Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, two weeks from tomorrow, as

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Speaker 3: a matter of fact, we weren't even thinking about George Fann.

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Speaker 3: George Fan turns into our really solid starter right tackle

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Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: The level of importance, I put it seven to seven

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Speaker 3: But Kendrick and OTAs not quite ready, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean he wasn't, but he said training camp be

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Speaker 2: ready to go. Kenyan seemingly is ready to go. And

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Speaker 2: I mean this offensive line that Brandon put here, this

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Speaker 2: Laramy tonsel Ken, you agreed, Juice, Scruggs, Shack Mason, Titus Howard.

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Speaker 2: I think we thought that was the offensive line we're

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Speaker 5: You lose Ken, You louse Kenyan for the entire year

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Speaker 5: in preseason, You lose Juice for the first ten games

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Speaker 1: You never saw that unit for one play last year, Juice,

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Speaker 3: Discuss because here's Juice moving into this spot in a

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Speaker 3: where you wanted them to play.

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Speaker 1: Yes, where you want them all along.

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Speaker 3: Should be comfortable, you'd think, But Johnny, there's no given

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Speaker 3: This is a rookie season for him at that spot. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that it's a good point because it's different. Well, it's

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Speaker 2: It's different. You got to handle all the calls. You

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Speaker 2: I've always thought about this, if you got a big,

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Speaker 2: be fine. I'm not too worried about that. I want

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Speaker 2: I think your number is dead on. They showed last

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Speaker 1: George Fans stepped in there.

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Speaker 2: You just hope that you don't have to do that again,

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Speaker 2: because Titus can be that much of a better player

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Speaker 2: over at right tackle. All right, great stuff, Mark coming

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Speaker 2: up next, Drew and I go in the lab. We

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Speaker 2: get a little dorky with this. We talk some numbers

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Speaker 2: and why does the number six hated on so much

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Speaker 2: here in Houston? Well discussed next on Texantal Access.

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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 5: noadat Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 5: football analyst, sideline reporter, and before we get to my

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Speaker 5: August twenty ninth, Special day in your Organization's the season

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Speaker 5: Thursday, August twenty ninth, Season premiere, presented by Amagey Bank.

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Speaker 5: All right, it's time to get nerdy about numbers. Drew

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Speaker 5: and I love to kind of geek out, nerd out.

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Speaker 5: We do that in our podcast we call in the Lab.

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Speaker 5: So today we talked about a few numbers, number eighty,

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Speaker 5: number ninety nine, and the number six.

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Speaker 6: Take a listen, so John with Independence Day here, it

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Speaker 6: made me think back to twenty eleven, maybe twenty twelve.

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Speaker 4: Gary Kubiak went to the.

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Speaker 6: Middle East as part of the USO NFL tour and

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Speaker 6: he got to ride in a helicopter and see some stuff.

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Speaker 4: And there were some really cool pictures.

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Speaker 6: But it reminded me, hey, let's let's take a moment

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Speaker 6: and let's think back in Texans terms about patriotic stuff.

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Speaker 4: And I thought about that. I thought about the football game.

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Speaker 6: I can't remember who the Texans played, but it was

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Speaker 6: around twenty ten, twenty eleven ish, when George HW. Bush

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Speaker 6: and George W. Bush both had been out of office

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Speaker 6: the we're not presidents anymore.

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Speaker 4: But they were both at the same game. I don't

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Speaker 4: know how many.

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Speaker 6: Times that's happened in an NFL game, two presidents. I'm

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Speaker 6: sure as gosh that was. That was pretty wild. It

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Speaker 6: was just a regular season game and the two Bush

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Speaker 6: guys were the former presidents, were at the game, and

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Speaker 6: it was hey, look.

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Speaker 4: There's George W. Bush. There's George H. W.

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Speaker 1: Bush.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's it's something that. You know, the Texans

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Speaker 6: are a patriotic organization. They've always love Salute to Service Day.

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Speaker 6: They were doing it before everyone else did. They weren't

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Speaker 6: doing the profiting off of it like many people did.

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Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 6: Plus, we've had Johnson's Andre Johnson. You know there have

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Speaker 6: been some presidents with the last name Johnson, Andrew Johnson,

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Speaker 6: Lennon B. Johnson, who else? Who else president?

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Speaker 7: Will? There have been?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 7: There have been no presidents named Stroud that we know of.

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Speaker 6: Right, So Adams, who's had an Adams or two? Right,

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Speaker 6: Jeff Adams.

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Speaker 5: We had Jeff Adams offensive tackle back in fourteen fifteen,

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Speaker 5: fourteen fifteen.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Jeff Adams, who actually went to Columbia. So have

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Speaker 7: we had him? Monroe?

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Speaker 4: What my uncle Google I can ask him know.

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Speaker 7: That we've had I don't know that we've had him Monroe.

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Speaker 4: I wrote an article about this a while.

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Speaker 5: Washington's we had Nate Washington, I remember that in fifteen.

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Speaker 7: We've read Washington's.

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Speaker 5: Cleveland's I don't know that we've had there's Bank Cleveland,

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Speaker 5: but he doesn't play for us.

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Speaker 4: No Hoover's, no Taffs.

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Speaker 7: I don't think so. No.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, well, have we had Have we had a Bush?

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Speaker 5: We almost had Reggie Bush.

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Speaker 6: Man, I kind of feel like we have anyways, Frank

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Speaker 6: Bush as a coach.

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Speaker 4: That'll work. Yeah, that'll work. Yeah. So what are you

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Speaker 4: gonna do for the fourth man?

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Speaker 7: Uh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 5: Actually it's after the fourth but I'm going to Big

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Speaker 5: twelve Media Days in Vegas?

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: So Vegas is always kind of an interesting place for

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Speaker 5: things like that because it's Vegas. So you know the

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Speaker 5: lights and the popping circumstance, and you want to go

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Speaker 5: to eat in a show and all that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 5: but then you realize, wait a second, I gotta go work.

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Speaker 5: So it's kind of a working kind of a working

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Speaker 5: pseudo vacation before training camp to fire week. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: next Monday, I'll be flying to Vegas. I'll be there

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Speaker 5: for Big twelve media Days. They've moved it to Vegas.

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Speaker 5: The Big Twelve is going through its changes lost Texas

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Speaker 5: and Oklahoma, but again the four corner schools of Utah, Colorado, Arizona,

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Speaker 5: Arizona State, and that actually is going to make the

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Speaker 5: Big twelve. Those four that's gonna make the Big twelve

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Speaker 5: that much more attractive because Utah has picked to win

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Speaker 5: the Big twelve. Colorado has got two of the most

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Speaker 5: polarizing players in the country, not to mention dian As

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Speaker 5: the coach.

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Speaker 7: Arizona might be as talented.

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Speaker 5: It's got my number one wide receiver in the twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty five drive, Titaro McMillan, who is just tremendous, and

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Speaker 5: his quarterback from Servided High School, Noah Fafida, who is

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Speaker 5: great and I'm glad he finally got a chance to

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Speaker 5: play last year and he showed what he can do.

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Speaker 5: So you had those three, and then Arizona State is

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Speaker 5: not thought to be very good, but it's Ariazona State.

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Speaker 5: So Arizona State brings a certain I think panajh if

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Speaker 5: that's the right word, in certain areas, and so I

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Speaker 5: think Arizona State coming in, those four coming in are

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Speaker 5: coming at the right time. So it's it's really cool

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Speaker 5: to see that. So they decided we'll go even further

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Speaker 5: west and go to Vegas for media days, so that's

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Speaker 5: where we're all head. Last year was up in Jerry World,

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Speaker 5: which was pretty cool. Brett Yormack was taking over as

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Speaker 5: commissioner Big twelve. He thinks like college commissioners college ads

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Speaker 5: need to start thinking. He's thinking business first, and I

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Speaker 5: think that's a change in college sports from that perspective.

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Speaker 5: There's always been money, TV money in particular, but the

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Speaker 5: way that he thinks, he thinks business wise, he thinks marketing,

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Speaker 5: and I don't know that other commissioners have thought that way.

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Speaker 5: Commissioners have been around for a long time, are concerned

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Speaker 5: about performances as schools and you know, there's realignment and

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Speaker 5: all that. He has been business first, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's made the Big twelve interesting.

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Speaker 7: And in the following week, I'm gonna go for a day.

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Speaker 5: Up to Dallas for sc Media Days, and they break

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Speaker 5: it up into four days, but I'll be up there

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Speaker 5: for a day. Now, you gotta get back because camp

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Speaker 5: is that Thursday, so I gotta get back. I'll be

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Speaker 5: doing a radio show with Sean Penry Gass on the sixteenth,

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Speaker 5: so we'll get back together, which would be kind of fun.

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Speaker 5: And then we have the seventeenth to kind of recover,

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Speaker 5: and then the eighteenth it's go time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is go time, all right.

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Speaker 6: So ninety men are on a roster until end of

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Speaker 6: August early September before you cut them. Texans signed thirty

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Speaker 6: one free agents this offseason. Some of them were their own,

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Speaker 6: some of them came from other teams. Of those thirty

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Speaker 6: one plus or mind or over under, how many do

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Speaker 6: you think we're from another team?

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Speaker 4: And I'll set the over under at twenty. I think

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Speaker 4: that's over under.

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Speaker 7: Twenty was gonna be the number, so I'll go I'll

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Speaker 7: go under eighteen.

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Speaker 6: Texans signed eighteen free agents from another team. And looking

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Speaker 6: at it like if you just look at it chronologically,

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Speaker 6: they signed, you know, four guys Dalton Schultz, Kymie Fereber

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Speaker 6: and yor Murray Desmond King right in the first few

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Speaker 6: days of free agency March eighth March twelfth, those four

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Speaker 6: guys got signed, so nothing was happening until March fourteenth.

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Speaker 6: That's when you had Danil Hunter. That's when Joe Mixon

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Speaker 6: signed his new deal. Basically he was traded, but technically

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Speaker 6: he was signed. And then the next day Aziza Schier,

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Speaker 6: Denico Autrey, Mike Ford. You know, these are when they

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Speaker 6: got announced. Basically, you know, we were we had heard

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Speaker 6: the news about some of them, but it's it's interesting

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Speaker 6: to look at it that way. And then Stefan Diggs

589
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Speaker 6: came on April fourth, that was announced on April fourth.

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Speaker 6: Ben Scronick from the Rams is the last one May fourteenth,

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Speaker 6: that's the last player the Texans have signed free agent wise.

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Speaker 6: But it's just interesting to look at it because you

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Speaker 6: can go back all the way to two thousand and two.

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Speaker 6: You know who the guy the first free agent technically

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Speaker 6: signed with the Texans was.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that I know this real obviously.

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Speaker 4: Steve McKinney on Mark six.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, yeah, I know he was the first. I

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Speaker 7: didn't know you Yeah, first.

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Speaker 6: He was wow, and then yeah, and then and then

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Speaker 6: Kylie Wong was the next day on the seventh. So

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Speaker 6: it's just really interesting. And I'm saying this because the

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Speaker 6: Texans Media relations department, helm by Omar Mazoo, has the

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Speaker 6: Texans free agency history in their new twenty twenty four

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Speaker 6: media guide. It's always fun to look through, but I always.

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Speaker 7: Love how the team is built.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and looking at how, you know, how we got here,

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Speaker 5: And there are always a couple of things that stand out,

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Speaker 5: like who's been with the Texans, you know the longest,

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Speaker 5: who's the longest tenured Texans. Well, we know it's John

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Speaker 5: Weeks for a long time, but and we kind of

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Speaker 5: put Week see up on a shelf. He's kind of

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Speaker 5: the Hall of Famer in that regard. So who and

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Speaker 5: then Kanye Fairbank comes next. Who is the longest tenured

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Speaker 5: Texan outside of our specialist.

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Speaker 4: It's probably Andre Johnson because that's whose record.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'm talking about on the team now, I'm

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Speaker 5: talking about the team now.

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Speaker 4: It's got to be Tightus Howard maybe, or.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Titus Howard. How about that.

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Speaker 5: Titus still feels like a young guy, like I still

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Speaker 5: think of, oh young Titus Howard. But he's the longest

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Speaker 5: tenured Texan, followed by Larremie tunsell Is a few months later.

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Speaker 5: So those two are the longest tenured Texans. Which and

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Speaker 5: then you're crazy to think about.

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Speaker 6: He left and he came back. But Lonnie Johnson he

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Speaker 6: was in that mix too.

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Speaker 7: That's right. He was twenty nineteen, that's right, and then

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Speaker 7: he came account.

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Speaker 4: But he's got a history with the team for.

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Speaker 7: Sure, no doubt. And I think one of the things

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Speaker 7: that strikes me, you talk about signing your own free

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Speaker 7: agents that twenty twenty offseason, you know what, everything was

634
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Speaker 7: going crazy with COVID the Texans side. Eric Murray Eric

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Speaker 7: Murray is one of the.

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Speaker 5: Longest tenure Texans to go with Larmi, touns Still, and

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Speaker 5: Titus Howard, which is I mean, it's incredible to think about.

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Speaker 5: It's like that year the draft was Charlie Heck, John

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Speaker 5: Gernard and obviously John's modon Minnesota. Charlie has stayed here

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Speaker 5: and then insigned Eric Murray as a free agent. So

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Speaker 5: I always look at the longest tenured players with the Texans,

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Speaker 5: and then when you think about those guys, they've been

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Speaker 5: through it now, they have been through it and got

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Speaker 5: hopefully through to the other side, and they all have

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Speaker 5: a significant impact, whether they're you know, starters. Obviously Larmie

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Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl starter, Titus more than likely starting at

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Speaker 5: right tackle, and Eric Murray has found his way with

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Speaker 5: this team making an impact when he has been healthy,

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Speaker 5: and I think we really missed him last year. I

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Speaker 5: think I think we really missed Eric Murray. We had

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Speaker 5: to go out and get Adrian Amos and DHC and

652
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Speaker 5: those guys played well given the constraints, but I think

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Speaker 5: Eric Murray would have given them that much more.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 7: I always look at that part of how teams.

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Speaker 5: You know teams are because it's still it's an interesting

657
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: mix of guys because they brought over these free agents

658
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: and then Dalt Shultz stay, you know, Eric Murray stayed.

659
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: So you know, you signed guys for a year and

660
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: then they they end up staying with you, which I

661
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: think is fantastic, but it is. It's such a mix

662
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: of these grizzled vets with these young dudes that hopefully

663
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: can merge it together and become the team.

664
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 7: Everybody really wants.

665
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: Us to be another thing here. Andre Johnson wore the

666
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 6: number eighty. You know, he's not the only person in

667
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: franchise history though to wear the number eighty.

668
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 5: Oh, I know this this is the really Yeah, it's

669
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: it's not a name that people are going to recognize,

670
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 5: but I'm trying to remember who wore it before him.

671
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 4: I'm guessing he was the first the franchise's first launch snapper. Yeah, yeah,

672
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: because he was.

673
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 6: It's Sean McDermott and he's listed as a tight end

674
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: long snapper from Kansas and he played in two thousand

675
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 6: and two. Well then Andre got here in three and

676
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 6: then did what he did, and then they're not like

677
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 6: his number is not retired, but his number is basically retired.

678
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: Nobody's gonna wear at number eighty unless it's a special

679
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 6: circumstance and he's you know, like we can say his

680
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 6: his number will not get worn again unless it's just

681
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 6: totally weird. Same for ninety nine now ninety nine JJ

682
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 6: Watt's number that has not been worn since he left here.

683
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 6: But a lot of people before him wore it, guys

684
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 6: like Tim Jamison in nine and ten were ninety nine

685
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 6: Oka at a wally a gunlier out of Indiana, yep,

686
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 6: twenty ten. Our buddy Travis Johnson he was he was

687
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 6: ninety nine.

688
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 7: Trap Jward ninety nine. He's the last one to wear

689
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 7: it for JJ.

690
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 6: Right, uh No, because a gunlia and Jamison would have

691
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 6: worn it because Travis left right before the on nine

692
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 6: season started. Robert Smith was a good solid Texan. He

693
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 6: was a good, good solid career, good dude too, fan

694
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 6: and he and Travis Johnson are now neighbors and they're

695
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 6: related by marriage. Steve Martin not the comedian, He wore

696
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 6: it in two thousand and three and then the great

697
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 6: Willie Blade in Mississippi State. He also played for the Cowboys.

698
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 6: He was at he was in Dallas, like oh two

699
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 6: thousand and two thousand and one. But it's just interesting

700
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 6: looking through the looking through the media guide and seeing

701
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: stuff like that.

702
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: You know, you know, I do think there's a chance

703
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 5: that the Texans might have to give ninety nine to

704
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 5: somebody because.

705
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 6: But it's gonna be a special circumstance, like a guy

706
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 6: who's an MVP and oh, you know, JJ talks about

707
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 6: him and I'd be honored if he were.

708
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: It'd be one of those type of instances.

709
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 5: Well, you have more guys in college that might wear

710
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: ninety nine than you will receivers wearing number eighty. You

711
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 5: just don't have Your receivers want to wear single digits now,

712
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: they're wearing you know, numbers in the tens.

713
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 7: You know, that's that's what they want now.

714
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 5: A lot of times the players that end up getting

715
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 5: you know, the eighties ends up being the the last choice,

716
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: you know, if you will, it's not it's not the

717
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 5: one that that that the kids want nowadays. They want

718
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 5: number five, they want number fifteen, they want number eighteen.

719
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 5: You know, they want, you know, one of those single

720
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 5: digits or low low numbers. They're not they're not picking Adien.

721
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: So receivers a lot of times are. They're exhausting, especially

722
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 5: now because you can have single digits. Because you have

723
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 5: single digits now now the receivers are, hey, I want

724
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 5: my number, I want this, and so they're so I

725
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: I think eighty is probably it's just my hunch.

726
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 7: I think it's probably never gonna get worn. I shouldn't

727
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 7: say never.

728
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 5: Ninety nine point nine chance it doesn't get worn again,

729
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 5: because my my guess is this, if the Texans get

730
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 5: to a point down.

731
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 7: The road where they have a you know, they.

732
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: Have to draft a tremendous receiver. You know, they draft

733
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 5: a guy like like last year, Elik Neighbors here number LSU.

734
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: You had Marvin Harrison, he wore eighteen at Ohio State.

735
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: You had Roman dudes and he wore number one. Those

736
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 5: guys are gonna pick their number, or they're gonna pick

737
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 5: a single digit number or a number of that ilk

738
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 5: because that's what they're used to. Receivers aren't wearing eighty anymore.

739
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 7: So I think eighty is just.

740
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 5: They don't even I don't even know if they have

741
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 5: to retire it. I think it's just gonna probably stay

742
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: retired for the most part. That's just that's my my hunt.

743
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 5: Ninety nine, I think is a number that a lot

744
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 5: of defensive ends, a lot of outside linebackers, they're wearing

745
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 5: ninety nine.

746
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 7: You're just not seeing.

747
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 5: That many dudes wear eighty anymore in the league or

748
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 5: even in college football.

749
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 6: All Right, I got something for you. This is this

750
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 6: is I predict this will kind of blow your mind. Okay,

751
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 6: basically the number six for the Texans has it's pretty

752
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 6: much been retired for its entirety, not because of anyone

753
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 6: that's worn it, just nobody he's really worn the number six.

754
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 4: Think about it.

755
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 6: Denzel Perriman wore it last year. Denzel Perryman fine season

756
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 6: at linebacker for the Texans.

757
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: He's moved on.

758
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 6: So he wore for the twenty three season. In twenty

759
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 6: one and twenty two, Jeff Driscoll.

760
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 7: War right, yeah, yeah, But then.

761
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 6: You got to go all the way back to twenty

762
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 6: fifteen and when TJ. Yates came back that second time,

763
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 6: he was number six in twenty fifteen. The year before,

764
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 6: he never really took the field. He might have been

765
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 6: on the field for like a snap or two or

766
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 6: a game maybe fad Lewis in twenty fourteen, remember back

767
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 6: up quarterback, he was number six Dad Lewis is the

768
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 6: first person in the franchise's history to wear the number

769
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 6: six in twenty fourteen bill ob Era.

770
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, not even the.

771
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 6: First game of the Bill O'Brien era, but like deep

772
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 6: into the season Bill O'Brien.

773
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: Era, think about that. Nobody wore that number until twenty fourteen.

774
00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 5: Now, receivers back in the day couldn't wear a single digit. Yeah,

775
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 5: but you know, see those single didges were out. But

776
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 5: you would have thought a quarterback would have worn it,

777
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 5: you would think, But no, that wasn't That wasn't the

778
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 5: case because.

779
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 7: You know, number was the quarterback number, du jure, and then.

780
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 6: Nobody wore zero until last year when Shaq Griffin got here,

781
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 6: and then Adrian Amos took it. So that's okay that

782
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 6: but nobody was wearing zero and then like you gotta

783
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 6: go through like the history, okay. Uh, the first guy

784
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 6: to wear the number one was Matt Turk, the punter,

785
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 6: and seven, and then other than that, it's pretty much

786
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: two thousand and two or two thousand and three, most

787
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 6: of the numbers got taken. You know, Uh, number four,

788
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 6: can you name?

789
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 7: Can you name who number six is? For the Texans?

790
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 7: Right now?

791
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 4: I cannot who is it? I can.

792
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 7: It's punter Tommy Townsend.

793
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: H yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

794
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 6: Yeah see this doesn't have like the current, it's off

795
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 6: stuff from last year.

796
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, so Tommy Soundsen is the is the

797
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 5: next number six? Which you wanren number five with the Chiefs,

798
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: but obviously it Jalen Peach's number, so he settled for

799
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: number six. That's interesting that THEVE for twelve years did

800
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: not have anybody wearing number six.

801
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 7: That's a great saber. I'd wear number six. Sal Bando

802
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 7: A's Brewers. I wear number six.

803
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 6: There are probably five other people watching or listening then,

804
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 6: and that's like, maybe that's very obvious. We know our

805
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 6: guy Dave Howard is he probably knows who Salbando is.

806
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 6: But I bet yeah, if Mark vanderburgs he's he probably

807
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 6: knows who sal Bando it.

808
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 7: Is, he doesn't. I probably promise he doesn't know. Sal

809
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 7: Bando is.

810
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 6: Not a Hall of Famer, but hall of great all

811
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 6: very good baseball player, one multiple.

812
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: Sal Bando was th third basement the Brewers when I

813
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 5: was growing up in Wisconsin.

814
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 7: So yeah, sal Bando, for some reason.

815
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 5: Number six, that's the that's the guy, I remember his

816
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 5: number six, sal Bando.

817
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: That's how young. But people forget that's how young the

818
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 4: Texans franchise is. Man, that is how young.

819
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 6: You gotta I mean the Steelers that probably had fifty

820
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 6: eight people wear the number six.

821
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: In their history.

822
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 7: You know, you're probably right, the.

823
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 4: Giants, so on and so forth.

824
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 6: But we need to remember that's how young the Texans

825
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 6: franchise is.

826
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: Man.

827
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 5: Hey, we can drink though we're we're legal to drink.

828
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 5: We can do that as a franchise.

829
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Now.

830
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, So when we win a championship, we can

831
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 5: have the champagne in the locker room.

832
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 7: So that's we've reached that stagep.

833
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 6: And hopefully that can happen this year. All right, man,

834
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 6: Well this was kind of a weird in the lab.

835
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 6: But what what I'm gonna do. We're gonna pull back

836
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 6: the curtain and here's what I'm gonna do to try

837
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 6: and drum up interest for for like people skimming through

838
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 6: on YouTube or whatever. And I'm gonna say this number

839
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 6: almost was retired by the Texans. That's what I'm a

840
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 6: title it something along those lines. See what people like,

841
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 6: what they'll suffer through. What we did for the first

842
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 6: ten minutes and then they'll get to that and throw

843
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 6: their hands up, and yeah to say that, throw their

844
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 6: hands up, but maybe for their middle fingers. Anyhow, Uh, John,

845
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 6: Happy for to July. Hope you have a great day

846
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 6: with the fam, and I can't wait to talk with

847
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 6: you again. We're gonna do it in two weeks. We're

848
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 6: gonna take a break next week because the whole office

849
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 6: is off, so we're gonna observe that that vacation and

850
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 6: we will come back with a vengeance in July, basically

851
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 6: mid July. Man, when we return here on in the lab.

852
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 5: What's up with Drew? As always on in the lab,

853
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 5: ye had number six?

854
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: What's up?

855
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 8: I didn't know that?

856
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: Daddy is loose?

857
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 8: Is the first person to number six and eight cents?

858
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 5: As I point out, because single digits could only be

859
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: worn by quarterbacks, punters, that's it, punters and kickers. That

860
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: was it at the time. Now it's changed. Now everybody

861
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 5: could wear a single digit. Now you can wear zero.

862
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 5: All that's kind of changed. But back in the day,

863
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 5: it wasn't quite like that. Okay, we get back, let's

864
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 5: go around the NFL. Let's finish up a couple of

865
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 5: thoughts about Hard Knocks with the New York Giants the

866
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: off season version. I liked it. I do feel like

867
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: if I'm a Giants fan. There are a few things

868
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: that got my antenna up. We'll talk about that next

869
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 5: right here on Texans All Access. What's Happened everybody? Welcome

870
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 5: back to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access.

871
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 8: We will be on the air tomorrow and Friday.

872
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: So if you guys are out and about on a

873
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: weekend on July fourth, you're going for party to party

874
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 5: or cookout to cocout or wherever you're going.

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Speaker 5: wondering go around the NFL, and I think probably the

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Speaker 5: biggest story.

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Speaker 8: In the NFL that we haven't really hit on is

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Speaker 8: the new Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 5: It debuted last night on HBO Max or Max or

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Speaker 5: whatever it's called now, and I thought it was really good.

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Speaker 5: I I really thought it was good. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's perfect. I don't think it's ever

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Speaker 5: gonna get perfect. Hurt some of the criticism today, Chris

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Speaker 5: Russo Mad Dog Russo on ESPN was losing his freaking mind.

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Speaker 8: I'm not gonna watch it, and I gotta watch it. It's

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Speaker 8: not worth it to watch it. They're not giving you anything.

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Speaker 1: So I get it.

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Speaker 5: You know, Hard Knocks over the years has probably been

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Speaker 5: watered down. Water down, I said water down. That's maybe

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Speaker 5: not the right term to use. But you're just not

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Speaker 5: gonna have the juicy things that you might want to see.

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Speaker 5: It's that it's an NFL team would be just killing

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Speaker 5: itself if it were to re open Pandora's box on

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Speaker 5: its thoughts on players, et cetera. So I think what

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Speaker 5: you're gonna get is something that's still barely.

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Speaker 1: Compelling, which is what you got.

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Speaker 5: I think last night, and you're gonna get little tidbits

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Speaker 5: here or there. I know people were talking about I

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Speaker 5: was listening to the guys at sports Rado six ten

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Speaker 5: seawn it seth. They were talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 5: People have been talking about it wherever. You know, Chris

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Speaker 5: Rushow is probably the most mad about everything, because you

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Speaker 5: want to see everything. You're voyeuristic.

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Speaker 1: We all are. We want to see what happened.

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Speaker 8: Hey, what were the discussions like about the burns trade?

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Speaker 1: Will they get into some of that?

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Speaker 5: At least they started it with Dan Morgan, the GM

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Speaker 5: of the Panthers, sort of tossing that out there to

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Speaker 5: Joe Shane their good buddies from the Carolina Panthers days

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Speaker 5: way back in early two thousands, so he just kind

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Speaker 5: of threw it out there. Dan Morgan did like, hey,

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Speaker 5: would you guys give us two once for burns?

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Speaker 8: And they kind of have this discussion that doesn't sound

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Speaker 8: like it's going just.

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Speaker 5: Kind of you know, playing around seemingly, and and all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden it turns into, oh, yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 5: trade burns to the Giants. So interesting how it starts

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Speaker 5: and they've got you know that footage, but I know

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of people. You know, I heard

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Speaker 5: Sean Seth and that thought they did a pretty good

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Speaker 5: job breaking it down about Joe Shane, the running back

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Speaker 5: situation with Saquon I've said along, I think the running

939
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Speaker 5: back situation is pretty complicated throughout the league. Whether we

940
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Speaker 5: want to believe it or not, it's pretty complicated because

941
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Speaker 5: you feel like, well, we got.

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Speaker 8: To be able to run the ball.

943
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Speaker 5: But as Joe Shane pointed out, we're not paying at

944
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Speaker 5: forty million dollar, forty million dollars a year quarterback to

945
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Speaker 5: hand off to a twelve million dollar a year running back,

946
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Speaker 5: which I think that's there's sort of a sound philosophy there.

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Speaker 5: But the flip side is, you know, Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 5: the guy that they've put eggs in that basket. Now,

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Speaker 5: I said, I wouldn't have done it. I said it

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Speaker 5: with Trevor Lawrence. I would have waited another year. I've

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Speaker 5: said it with Too Tonguo Via Well, not too, but

952
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Speaker 5: yeah too, I said last year, I said, wait another year.

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Speaker 5: I think he proved it this past year. He deserves

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Speaker 5: a contract, but.

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Speaker 8: Wait in the year he didn't have to give Daniel

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Speaker 8: Jones that money, then, I don't know, I just would

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Speaker 8: have paid Daniel Jones at all. But point being, I

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Speaker 8: guess it was the lesser of evils.

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Speaker 5: Like, Okay, you can go out and go draft the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: or you could stick with Daniel Jones. And Daniel Jones

961
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Speaker 5: just got you the Division A round of the playoff.

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Speaker 5: I guess you're gonna stick with him. And they paid him,

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Speaker 5: and you know, he played six games last year. He

964
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Speaker 5: is hurt. But I think that the discussion on a

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Speaker 5: running back can be kind of dicey. But even at

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Speaker 5: that point, Shanna Sethelo brought up a great point, and

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Speaker 5: that is, hey, you know, Joe Shane tells John marra, Hey,

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Speaker 5: Devin Singletary last year with the Texans, he played for

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Speaker 5: one year two seven five, two point seventy five million.

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Speaker 5: If John Maron I hear that, I'm like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 5: well you can get him for what three three and

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Speaker 5: a half?

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool?

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Speaker 5: No, they doubled his salary and paid him for three years.

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Speaker 5: Like whoa, this is kind of strange. It's kind of odd. Now,

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Speaker 5: maybe maybe Motor had suitors and they had to fight

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Speaker 5: it off, But the whole aught of saying to John Marra, like,

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Speaker 5: don't worry about Saquon. We've got options, which is true,

979
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Speaker 5: there were options out there, but to kind of portray

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Speaker 5: it as well, you know, look, we'll play two seventy

981
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Speaker 5: five for motor and we got him and it didn't

982
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Speaker 5: turn out that way. So we'll see how He continues

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Speaker 5: on with the discussion on hard knocks.

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Speaker 8: But I don't know I like hard knocks. I take

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Speaker 8: it for what it is.

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Speaker 5: I just know you're not gonna get all the juicy

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Speaker 5: stuff that you probably want, but if you're paying attention,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna get little nuggets here there that will tell

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Speaker 5: you some things. And what I find with the Giants

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Speaker 5: the most compelling is we have put all of our

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Speaker 5: eggs in the Daniel Jones basket. We went out and

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Speaker 5: got him the league neighbors. We've now gotten him a

993
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Speaker 5: running back in Devin Singletary. We have bolstered the offensive

994
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Speaker 5: line alongside Andrew Thomas. We are gonna give him all

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Speaker 5: the reasons to succeed in the world, and if he doesn't,

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Speaker 5: we'll cut our losses and we'll move on. And that's

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Speaker 5: the tough part about being a GM You kind of

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Speaker 5: have to roll with it. You paid them all this money.

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Speaker 5: You gotta roll with it now. Was it his decision?

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's the tough part.

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Speaker 5: Was that something Joe Shane wanted to do or was

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Speaker 5: that something he was getting pressure from ownership or coaching

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Speaker 5: or whatever to make sure they signed Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I know I wouldn't have done it.

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Speaker 5: I think the hard part as I watch all of

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Speaker 5: this is as a GM, you know, you have thoughts

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Speaker 5: about how you want things done, or who you want,

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Speaker 5: what players you want to bring in a lot of

1011
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Speaker 5: times that's kind of taken out of your hands, but

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Speaker 5: your job relies on all those other people being right.

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Speaker 5: I either head, coach, the owner, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: So anyways, I found it pretty compelling. Go check it

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Speaker 5: out and we'll discuss next week. We got plenty for

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Speaker 5: you next week. I'll be in Vegas for a big

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Speaker 5: quote media days. Can't wait for that. We had a

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Speaker 5: great show ton I appreciate Mark stopping by, Drew Brenda

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Speaker 5: lab all you guys were listening.

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Speaker 8: We'll see you next time, and as always, go Texans.