1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: Joined by the newarth member of the Patriots Hall Fame 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,359 Speaker 2: Mike Raybold. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,918 --> 00:00:50,439 Speaker 3: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 10 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,119 Speaker 3: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:55,679 Speaker 2: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 12 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: Good evening. Never feel good after a loss. Our expectations 14 00:01:05,999 --> 00:01:09,239 Speaker 3: still might remain high and we'll get better. We'll learn 15 00:01:09,239 --> 00:01:11,599 Speaker 3: from this and we'll move forward fire away. 16 00:01:12,479 --> 00:01:16,359 Speaker 1: Just how unfortunate was the turnovers in the sequence there 17 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: in the second half you after you've played such a 18 00:01:17,759 --> 00:01:18,438 Speaker 1: good first half. 19 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, we always talk about, you know, winning the turnover battle, 20 00:01:21,279 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 3: and unfortunately we weren't able to do that today. I mean, 21 00:01:23,598 --> 00:01:25,799 Speaker 3: it's a good football team on the row, Hostele, environment 22 00:01:26,119 --> 00:01:26,599 Speaker 3: can't do it. 23 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: We didn't see your reminder after the second blow, majority 24 00:01:29,199 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: considering topic for anybody. 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 3: Oh look, we all we we always talk about you know, 26 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 3: the football is the most important thing, and now we can't. 27 00:01:38,199 --> 00:01:39,799 Speaker 3: We can't turn the ball over, especially against a good 28 00:01:39,839 --> 00:01:40,239 Speaker 3: team like this. 29 00:01:40,719 --> 00:01:43,079 Speaker 2: You guys went for a fourth and one year plan. 30 00:01:43,399 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 3: You put that on that same drives for one from 31 00:01:45,559 --> 00:01:48,479 Speaker 3: your own grade where you punted Nan that I might 32 00:01:48,519 --> 00:01:50,319 Speaker 3: gonna get too much into the thought process on that. 33 00:01:50,399 --> 00:01:51,719 Speaker 3: You know, I try to do what was best for 34 00:01:51,799 --> 00:01:52,079 Speaker 3: the team. 35 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:57,119 Speaker 2: Do what me punching from midfield? Uh? In the fourth quarter? 36 00:01:57,879 --> 00:01:59,679 Speaker 2: The best SITISI ti and it's all to me. It's 37 00:01:59,679 --> 00:02:00,279 Speaker 2: a field position. 38 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:02,839 Speaker 3: Then do it too, my little so we saw uh 39 00:02:03,199 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 3: special relation to the one of the Romandre and you 40 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:07,199 Speaker 3: want to tell you but those plays on angels, the 41 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: execution on those quarters. Uh, you know, I gotta watch 42 00:02:10,079 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 3: the film and see exactly what happened there. I tried 43 00:02:11,839 --> 00:02:13,719 Speaker 3: to see it on the jumper, trying, Unfortunately I couldn't 44 00:02:13,799 --> 00:02:14,279 Speaker 3: really see it. 45 00:02:14,478 --> 00:02:16,999 Speaker 2: Drive venture to field position, games down ten are which 46 00:02:16,999 --> 00:02:18,559 Speaker 2: do see happen? It's like, what what do you mean 47 00:02:18,559 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 2: by that? Now? 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: For me, it's all about, you know, our timeouts, especially 49 00:02:21,839 --> 00:02:22,518 Speaker 3: at that point in time. 50 00:02:22,519 --> 00:02:23,518 Speaker 2: Are definitely important. 51 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:25,319 Speaker 3: And you know when you have three time outs at 52 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: the end of the game, you try to you have 53 00:02:26,839 --> 00:02:28,038 Speaker 3: a get a chance to get the ball back and 54 00:02:28,399 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: didn't do it. 55 00:02:29,559 --> 00:02:32,319 Speaker 2: Why not, uh drop you guys choose something on tide kick? 56 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: Why not kick it? Tea? You had three timeouts to 57 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 2: take at the time and try to play the. 58 00:02:36,839 --> 00:02:38,559 Speaker 3: Cart It was a it was a good on side kick. 59 00:02:38,799 --> 00:02:40,559 Speaker 3: We didn't come up with it, and that was a 60 00:02:40,599 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: decision I made sure. 61 00:02:42,279 --> 00:02:44,518 Speaker 2: I just saw uh bring you know, robbing a little 62 00:02:44,559 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 2: bit more by sign today's sneak stas like that? Like 63 00:02:47,719 --> 00:02:49,719 Speaker 2: great today today you guys wanna do that? 64 00:02:49,959 --> 00:02:51,518 Speaker 3: Yeah for us? You know, we thought that was best 65 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:53,479 Speaker 3: for the football team. And you know you can make 66 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:54,439 Speaker 3: plays with his legs and you. 67 00:02:54,359 --> 00:02:56,479 Speaker 2: Did that today. Why was it best for the both 68 00:02:56,479 --> 00:02:59,038 Speaker 2: of you? We're always looking for ways to win. Like 69 00:02:59,199 --> 00:03:00,319 Speaker 2: you see, I have to take your sash. 70 00:03:02,079 --> 00:03:03,599 Speaker 3: I gotta go back cook, I gotta go back and 71 00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: watch the film just to be on the same page. 72 00:03:06,119 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: But you know again, I'm sure he's disappointed and throw 73 00:03:08,239 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 3: an interception and all of us are and we'll learn 74 00:03:10,559 --> 00:03:10,798 Speaker 3: from it. 75 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:12,599 Speaker 2: Could you did you think it was gonna during on 76 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: that part? You're talking for us. 77 00:03:14,839 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 3: Uh again, like I gotta watch the film. You know, 78 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:18,798 Speaker 3: as far as as far as that's concerned. 79 00:03:18,519 --> 00:03:19,918 Speaker 1: I think it was the second quarter they had the 80 00:03:19,959 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: procedure penalty on the kickoff and you guys took it 81 00:03:21,959 --> 00:03:23,238 Speaker 1: at the twenty seven yard line. 82 00:03:23,279 --> 00:03:24,879 Speaker 2: Why did you wanna take it there? As supposed to 83 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:26,999 Speaker 2: make it that kick it again? Yeah, that's always uh, 84 00:03:27,079 --> 00:03:28,279 Speaker 2: you know a consideration to me. 85 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 3: You know, the offense is doing a good job, and 86 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 3: we're wanted to get those guys back on the field 87 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: much faster. 88 00:03:32,519 --> 00:03:34,959 Speaker 2: Started periods go today? What used to attribute to that? 89 00:03:35,039 --> 00:03:38,319 Speaker 2: I start today? Honestly, I'm not sure. Gotta go. I 90 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:39,879 Speaker 2: I have to watch the film. You know, the guys 91 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:40,959 Speaker 2: were ready in the locker room. 92 00:03:40,999 --> 00:03:42,559 Speaker 3: I felt like the guys were ready to go, and 93 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:44,199 Speaker 3: they went out there and then started fast. Now we 94 00:03:44,239 --> 00:03:45,639 Speaker 3: gotta do the same thing in the second half and 95 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:46,799 Speaker 3: put him together a. 96 00:03:46,839 --> 00:03:49,039 Speaker 2: Score thirty points and the straight games. 97 00:03:49,279 --> 00:03:51,239 Speaker 1: H What would you describe as kind of the pillars 98 00:03:51,279 --> 00:03:53,519 Speaker 1: or your defensive game playing here today? 99 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:54,039 Speaker 2: Uh? 100 00:03:54,079 --> 00:03:55,959 Speaker 3: For our game plan, you know, obviously it starts with 101 00:03:55,999 --> 00:03:58,999 Speaker 3: the quarterback and then saying that, you know, we felt 102 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:02,199 Speaker 3: pretty good about the game plan and you know, I'm 103 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:03,799 Speaker 3: not really sure as far as points, but you know, 104 00:04:03,839 --> 00:04:06,279 Speaker 3: when it we talk about complimentary football and the offense 105 00:04:06,359 --> 00:04:07,879 Speaker 3: being able to put together those long. 106 00:04:07,799 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: Jobs also helped us out. So it all ties in together. 107 00:04:11,359 --> 00:04:14,479 Speaker 2: Learn uh lesson learning days today for your rookie quarterback 108 00:04:14,519 --> 00:04:16,319 Speaker 2: with the the battle and then just kind of the 109 00:04:16,359 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 2: mistakes and everything that he can learn from today. 110 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:20,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what makes Drake a a a very good player, 111 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: a special player. His mentality of learning from his mistakes 112 00:04:23,039 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: and he's not a repeater of guy as I've said before. 113 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 3: And uh wo'ld aokward to getting back out on the 114 00:04:26,799 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: practice field getting better. 115 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:29,879 Speaker 2: Two games left to get this season just perf you 116 00:04:29,919 --> 00:04:33,518 Speaker 2: say so funny, Oh, I've learned a lot. 117 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:35,398 Speaker 3: I've learned a lot, not only about this team but 118 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: also about myself. And we'll continue to push forward and 119 00:04:37,919 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: we'll get better. As I said earlier, Look, the standard, 120 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:42,959 Speaker 3: the expectations still remain hot no matter what you know, 121 00:04:43,119 --> 00:04:45,118 Speaker 3: where we play, who we play, it doesn't matter. You know, 122 00:04:45,239 --> 00:04:47,079 Speaker 3: the expectations that we're gonna go out there and win 123 00:04:47,119 --> 00:04:49,398 Speaker 3: football games. What did you see from Kashaw duty Obviously 124 00:04:49,438 --> 00:04:52,238 Speaker 3: that we started off with apologizing for some of the 125 00:04:52,318 --> 00:04:55,878 Speaker 3: comments seem like what comes back? Yeah, you know, just 126 00:04:56,078 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: you know, apologize like a man and move forward, move on. 127 00:04:59,678 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: You have mentioned before that by the end of the season, 128 00:05:02,958 --> 00:05:03,519 Speaker 2: you guys will. 129 00:05:03,438 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: Hope it to be a really tough team to play against. 130 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:08,558 Speaker 2: With that in mind, you reflect on this game's closer game. 131 00:05:08,599 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: Who a lot of people are expecting? How do you 132 00:05:10,599 --> 00:05:11,399 Speaker 2: how do you think about that? 133 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:13,878 Speaker 3: We'll never get into the expectations of people outside of 134 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: our building. For me, I think these guys that they 135 00:05:16,719 --> 00:05:18,519 Speaker 3: have the mindset to go out there and be physical 136 00:05:18,678 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 3: at you know, great mental toughness and try to win 137 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:21,238 Speaker 3: football games. 138 00:05:21,558 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: Were they the tough team that you've been hoping? 139 00:05:25,558 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 3: Look, we got a bunch of tough guys in there, 140 00:05:27,318 --> 00:05:30,518 Speaker 3: and I, you know, I don't question that. Again though, 141 00:05:30,719 --> 00:05:32,638 Speaker 3: we want to win football games and that's why we're here. 142 00:05:33,078 --> 00:05:35,959 Speaker 1: Kind Of following up with what Phil said, coming to 143 00:05:36,039 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: this week, it was kind of a lot. 144 00:05:37,599 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: Of questions going on around the team and everything else. 145 00:05:39,479 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 1: You're fourteen point underdog, should come in here against a 146 00:05:41,599 --> 00:05:44,518 Speaker 1: team that's you know, playing for everything, you're three and eleven. 147 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:46,558 Speaker 1: Just kind of your thought on what they brought to 148 00:05:46,599 --> 00:05:48,879 Speaker 1: the table today, especially in that first half. 149 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: And then I'm very proud of these men. 150 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:52,439 Speaker 3: You know, they came out here, they played hard, and 151 00:05:52,519 --> 00:05:55,438 Speaker 3: unfortunately unfortunately didn't walk away with a win. 152 00:05:55,999 --> 00:05:58,199 Speaker 1: And what do you look at that play that ended 153 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: up be the throw half line and the touchdown football 154 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: Club for Drake? 155 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: Should he have seen the defender looks like he played 156 00:06:05,318 --> 00:06:06,639 Speaker 2: and even if he had caught it from mind that 157 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: he would attacking him a lot. Should Drake be throwing 158 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 2: it and complete that? 159 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,238 Speaker 3: Look, that's another one. I have to go back, you know, 160 00:06:12,318 --> 00:06:14,639 Speaker 3: to the film to watch it. I'll answer for you tomorrow. 161 00:06:14,799 --> 00:06:16,399 Speaker 2: But you learned about your team to day. 162 00:06:18,159 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 3: Not much that these guys have been coming to work 163 00:06:20,359 --> 00:06:23,199 Speaker 3: every single day, regardless of what the record is, as 164 00:06:23,239 --> 00:06:26,199 Speaker 3: true professionals, and I appreciate that and look hopefully at 165 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,639 Speaker 3: least to some wins here in the last couple of weeks. 166 00:06:27,678 --> 00:06:30,878 Speaker 2: And the sideline did an even pictures are kind of close. 167 00:06:30,919 --> 00:06:32,878 Speaker 2: You'd look through there. What did you see from your 168 00:06:32,919 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: run the defense today? Look again, you know, the big 169 00:06:36,678 --> 00:06:38,319 Speaker 2: run hurt us and we just got to do a 170 00:06:38,359 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: better job tackle. I guess got there the four yard line. 171 00:06:40,719 --> 00:06:42,118 Speaker 2: I think it's in their nine places to get in 172 00:06:42,198 --> 00:06:44,879 Speaker 2: so and so frustrating the situation to say what is 173 00:06:45,198 --> 00:06:45,639 Speaker 2: better here. 174 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: In the last two games to you don't be better 175 00:06:48,039 --> 00:06:50,079 Speaker 3: at that listening, But there's a little bit frustrating. But 176 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:52,238 Speaker 3: as you've watched around the league, you know there have 177 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,878 Speaker 3: been times where you know, guys run it there, don't 178 00:06:54,958 --> 00:06:56,519 Speaker 3: run it. But we had to get the ball in 179 00:06:56,558 --> 00:07:01,758 Speaker 3: the ends, one through the air, and that was the decision. Good, 180 00:07:02,159 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: Thank you guys, appreciate it. 181 00:07:04,678 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John Rook as he brings you all 182 00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:10,919 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 183 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:13,999 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 184 00:07:13,999 --> 00:07:16,039 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 185 00:07:16,078 --> 00:07:18,199 Speaker 1: state of the team. But where the Patriots are concerned, 186 00:07:18,519 --> 00:07:20,759 Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done and let's get it 187 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:22,639 Speaker 1: done right and then we can. 188 00:07:22,599 --> 00:07:23,759 Speaker 2: Worry about versatility. 189 00:07:23,919 --> 00:07:26,199 Speaker 1: Am I lying to anybody here? Let's just get one 190 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: thing done. Let's get one thing done right, and then 191 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:31,599 Speaker 1: we can move along. That's kind of my biggest thing. 192 00:07:31,719 --> 00:07:34,279 Speaker 1: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.