WEBVTT - Hour 1 – Jerome Bettis, Grant Hill

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Made it to a Thursday, Another beautiful day here in Tahoe,

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<v Speaker 2>and the temperature swing is unbelievable. We get here upper

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<v Speaker 2>thirties to start the morning at around four thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>to forty five. It'll probably be in the eighties in

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<v Speaker 2>about three hours from now. But another gorgeous day and

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<v Speaker 2>proud to be here. American Century Golf Tournament and among

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<v Speaker 2>the luminaries stopping by, Jerome bettis grand Hill, Bence Carter,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Ryan, the Miz. The wrestler is going to stop by,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means Pauli is going to want to wrestle

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<v Speaker 2>the Miz. It always goes wrong when you do this,

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<v Speaker 2>It always goes wrong. Matt Ryan and the Saturday Night

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<v Speaker 2>Live host Colin Jost will join us as well. Glad

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<v Speaker 2>Eight seven seven three D Show operator Tyler is sitting by.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll take your phone calls. Summer League. It starts tonight

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<v Speaker 2>and it's Cooper Flag and Marvin just told me the

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<v Speaker 2>tickets are going for twenty five hundred dollars to see

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm hearing that resale price. I'm on a ticket

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<v Speaker 3>website right now. It says nine hundred and ninety nine dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm seeing is the highest right now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>on a ticket website. Okay, Paul, he's not buying this.

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<v Speaker 4>Now buying it.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw this headline the other day and it felt

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<v Speaker 5>like a boosted up headline, not real what the ticket

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<v Speaker 5>prices are.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he's also going against Brownie.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yes, so I've retracted it.

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<v Speaker 2>You maybe that's why these tickets are going for whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they're going for. But Cooper Flag makes his Summer League debut.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I don't think he'll win Rookie

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year because I don't think there's a second,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's really a candidate that's that close to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just wonder how he fits in with Dallas,

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<v Speaker 2>what they ask him to do, because it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>some of these other are going to put up decent numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Ace Bailey might put up good numbers for a team

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<v Speaker 2>that may not win twenty games in Utah. Dylan Harper

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<v Speaker 2>may put up some good numbers, even looking back at

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<v Speaker 2>your guy who won the Rookie of the Year for

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<v Speaker 2>San Antonio. Yeah, I mean there were good numbers. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not great numbers, and I wonder what we're going to expect.

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<v Speaker 2>What is fair for Cooper Flag these numbers for his

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<v Speaker 2>rookie year for a team that's got veterans there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Marvin, So if Cooper flag average is maybe thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>and a half points on a team that is fourth

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<v Speaker 3>in the Western Conference, is that a no brainer?

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<v Speaker 2>Hit the odds for him? According to DraftKings, overwhelming to

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<v Speaker 2>be the rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 4>But like VJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Edgecombe, he's already proven well summer league that he can

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<v Speaker 2>put up some pretty good in my.

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<v Speaker 4>Badly now I got hit it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to criticize myself for being critical of other

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<v Speaker 2>people who late in the summer league.

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<v Speaker 4>Strike that from the records.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Western, Yeah, already the pole question, Player of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>stat of the day. Last night we had all the golfers,

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<v Speaker 2>all the celebrities got together. It was a pairings party.

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<v Speaker 2>So you find out who you're going to play with

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<v Speaker 2>in the event, and you know you're seeing all walks

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<v Speaker 2>of life in there. You know, there's an a Casornstams

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<v Speaker 2>right there. Actor Jack Wagner's right there. There's Brian Baumgardner,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin from the Office, Rob Mackilly well Rob mack I

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<v Speaker 2>think he changed he shortened his name always Sonny in Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 2>all of these people are just kind of mingling about. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry saw Steph Curry. Marvin was fanboying and Steph

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<v Speaker 2>was seated, and you know he's just sitting there chilling,

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<v Speaker 2>having a drink, and I just thought, let me just salo,

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, uh, hey, and he looks up and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, oh, man, let me get up, give you

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<v Speaker 2>some a hug.

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<v Speaker 4>Marvin's like he's given you a hug, like he.

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<v Speaker 6>Stood up for you.

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<v Speaker 3>There were some there was some MVPs that he just

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<v Speaker 3>stapped up and didn't get up for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know, he said, hey, We've had him

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<v Speaker 2>on since his junior year. I think of Davidson, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a long relationship there. I was always a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan of his father, Dell when he played in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you want to look at boy band craziness,

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry walking around when he's playing golf. It was

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<v Speaker 2>crazy yesterday, crazy and Pauline and I were talking like,

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<v Speaker 2>who is the most popular person here? You know, Charles

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<v Speaker 2>Barkley walks into a room. Everybody knows Charles Barkley. But

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin brought up a great point. Steph brings out the

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<v Speaker 2>eight or nine year old who has a jersey on.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not seeing that with Charles and watching Steph walk

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<v Speaker 2>around yet. I mean trying to walk around yesterday and

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<v Speaker 2>play golf, and he's a great golfer and you know

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to be out there playing and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on winning this thing. But the number of people

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<v Speaker 2>following him was incredible. Yeah see, and I mean this

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<v Speaker 2>is basically his backyard. There were only a couple hours

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<v Speaker 2>from their home base.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Yeah, Paully and Steph Curry.

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<v Speaker 5>He can't stop because there's kids and once they stop,

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<v Speaker 5>it's over.

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<v Speaker 6>So security is trying to get him to the first tee.

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<v Speaker 5>He's walking right past our set and we casually invited

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<v Speaker 5>him on the show and his people said he can.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got a tea off maybe tomorrow. But as we

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<v Speaker 5>walked around the other side, we have two porta potties.

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<v Speaker 5>There are porta potties by the way, and I walked

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<v Speaker 5>around just to say thank you to Steph Curry's guy,

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<v Speaker 5>and I look, I don't see, and as I go

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<v Speaker 5>towards the porta potty to use it, Steph's coming out

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<v Speaker 5>of the porta potty.

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<v Speaker 6>So I followed up.

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<v Speaker 7>Steph.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I told Paulie. I said, he's got a tea off

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<v Speaker 2>at a certain time. It's a shotgun start. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to sound a horn's he's gonna take a whiz and

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<v Speaker 2>then he's going to go to the tea. And Poulie goes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you never know, I'm just gonna walk out there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I look out over my shoulders the porta potty and

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<v Speaker 2>Paulie I.

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<v Speaker 5>Did not know he was in it. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 5>I would not stock porta potty stock not anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we had the incident with Ray Romano, and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>But if Steph uses our porta potty, shouldn't he stop

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<v Speaker 5>by the show?

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<v Speaker 6>Is that possible?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so, I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I would have been fine trying to enforce that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so you know, we saw Steph saw Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a lot of fun because people are

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<v Speaker 2>relaxed in there and you're just having a cocktail and

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<v Speaker 2>just different people mingling.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Seed, it was the craziest room.

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<v Speaker 8>We've done a lot of really cool things, like doing

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<v Speaker 8>this show, right, We've had a lot of really great opportunities.

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<v Speaker 8>That was one of the craziest rooms I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 8>in my whole life, where it would be Alfonso Roberto

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<v Speaker 8>talking to you know, like Albert Poolholes and Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 8>and you're like, oh my god, and that's Stephen Curry

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<v Speaker 8>walks in and Miles Teller is standing over here. You're like,

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<v Speaker 8>what the heck is and.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody was just chill.

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<v Speaker 8>They're having like a sandwich and drinking a beer and

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<v Speaker 8>it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of fun. So it's awesome. We got

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<v Speaker 2>a great guest list today, and any changes to that,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll let you know where. You know where we're situated

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<v Speaker 2>just right off of the driving range, and we may

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<v Speaker 2>get some people showing up prior to teeing off today.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the fun part of this all right, So

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<v Speaker 2>poll question today, Yes, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>The other funny thing is we're such dopes. Me Marvin

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<v Speaker 5>and a seat are sitting there and we're commenting on

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<v Speaker 5>different celebrities. We say, oh, there's Miles Teller. We've never

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<v Speaker 5>seen him before, and that hissed me. Goes, Hey, Colin

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<v Speaker 5>Jos from senem like, yeah, yes, he's kind of jacked.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, dude, Colin Jos is in great shape. Man,

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<v Speaker 6>he's he's gotten big. Then we had a debate.

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<v Speaker 5>See, he goes, if I were that famous and mary

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<v Speaker 5>to Scarlett Joe Hanson, I'd put my feet up and

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<v Speaker 5>just have a belly.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, I'd be jack too. I'll just work out

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<v Speaker 6>and stay in shape.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think I'd let myself go just because

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<v Speaker 2>I got Scarlet Joe Hanson as my wife.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I'm just saying that is it's like, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>like you're on SNL and you got a really hot wipe,

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<v Speaker 8>you got to stay in great shave like not really

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<v Speaker 8>yeah you actually no you don't. It turns out no,

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<v Speaker 8>you do not good debate. There are plenty of gorgeous

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<v Speaker 8>women and you're like, really, wow, that dude man keeps

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<v Speaker 8>up in shaving.

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<v Speaker 6>H I don't have to looks like the normal SEC couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Like man, how did he get her.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we went to that party after the party. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>it was more the one with the crazy room. The

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<v Speaker 8>awesome room was like just players basically. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 8>there was something where I think it was players and

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<v Speaker 8>families and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I bet you sixty percent of that crowd went to

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<v Speaker 8>an SEC school. I bet you just looking at there

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<v Speaker 8>was like, oh look there's an old miss Polo shirt

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<v Speaker 8>and that's an LSU one. And that's what I bet

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<v Speaker 8>you at least half of that crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the punky QB. Jim McMahon owned him a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, got to talk to him. He's had some

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<v Speaker 2>health issues, but he is still Jim McMahon. He you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the golfer that he once was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a really good golfer. I played a round of golf

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<v Speaker 2>with him probably twenty years ago. It was him and

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<v Speaker 2>Bo Jackson and Mac is just a he's a funny guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he plays barfoot. They make him wear his shoes

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<v Speaker 2>when he teas off, and then he takes off his

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<v Speaker 2>shoes and then he plays, and then when he gets

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<v Speaker 2>ready to come back to the eighteenth hole, they have

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<v Speaker 2>him put on his shoes. But he plays barefoot. And

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<v Speaker 2>I ran into his son. His son should be jacked

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<v Speaker 2>because he carries Jim McMahon's golf clubs, and Jim McMahon,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, his poor son. There's usually eight or nine

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<v Speaker 2>beers in the golf bag with ice to start his round,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he makes the turn and adds eight or

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<v Speaker 2>nine beers and ice at the turn. So I saw

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<v Speaker 2>his son, and I was out here in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and six playing. I said, you should be in better shape,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, what do you mean. I go, you

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<v Speaker 2>carry your dad's clubs with all that beer in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, no, we got a designated beer carrier

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<v Speaker 2>this year. He goes, I'm not going to carry the beer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm carrying his clubs. So it was fun last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Now these guys claim that I had an awkward momento.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, and I certainly don't want to start anything

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<v Speaker 2>with this. I didn't intend to start anything with this.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, I've got the dan Etz.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Fritzy's not here, he's still in London. So it's Marvin,

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<v Speaker 2>it's PAULI m Seton, and all of a sudden, Marvin

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<v Speaker 2>and Mario, who's the director of the show the Eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and Ears of the Show goes man, you just just

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Clemens.

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<v Speaker 4>I go, I didn't even see him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now his wife said hello, but I didn't even think

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<v Speaker 2>to go, where's your husband? Because it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is Debbie Clemens.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>And she goes, It's been a long time? Okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, I don't realize that Roger

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<v Speaker 2>is right next to me. Is that how is this

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<v Speaker 2>this affair? Say according to you? Yeah, okay, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. Tell me then what happened?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, we're getting ready to leave this party. He said,

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<v Speaker 5>let's roll, and the guys were with you. I was

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<v Speaker 5>about ten feet behind you, trying to get one more

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<v Speaker 5>plate of food. I see you walk up to a

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<v Speaker 5>couple of people and you are shoulder to shoulder with

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<v Speaker 5>Roger Clemens, the Rocket, but you're facing two different directions.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh, this is cool. Dan's gonna catch up

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<v Speaker 5>with Roger Clemens. We haven't had him on in a while.

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<v Speaker 5>You haven't seen him in a while, and I mean

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<v Speaker 5>a while. And as I'm walking up you go you

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<v Speaker 5>start taking off like that's weird. They didn't talk at all,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's what I thought. Like I thought you saw

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<v Speaker 5>each other and didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk, I would have said a low to him.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think you saw each other, and I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>If you said, what did he have on? I can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what he had on I have. I have

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<v Speaker 2>no clue.

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<v Speaker 5>He had a shirt on that actually said rocket Clemens

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<v Speaker 5>on it. It's like a golf brand.

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<v Speaker 7>Ass.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh you're.

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<v Speaker 7>He's not lying.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a polo shirt. It says the rocket and a

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<v Speaker 6>picture of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have no beef with Roger Clemens. He might

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<v Speaker 2>with me, but I don't have any beef with him.

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<v Speaker 2>But these guys were like, I don't even think of you.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even register to base. Oh be all the

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<v Speaker 2>way back to the hotel, I got. These guys are

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<v Speaker 2>going man, man, that was weird. Man Like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>then you got a beef. I have no beef with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see him. If I see him today, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, hey, Roger, how are you sorry?

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<v Speaker 4>I missed you last night?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>But then what if you see him today and he

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<v Speaker 2>ignores you? Then I would and I guess he has

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<v Speaker 2>every right to. Then if he thought that I was

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<v Speaker 2>slighting him. I would like to publicly say I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>intend to slight him. I don't think it bothered him

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<v Speaker 2>last night that I didn't, you know, address him.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 6>What if he.

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<v Speaker 8>Comes here and stands over on the putting green and

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<v Speaker 8>stands shoulder to shoulder with you the whole time and

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<v Speaker 8>acts like he doesn't notice that you're there, I would

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<v Speaker 8>love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Paul, Roger Clemens is in the first group teeing

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<v Speaker 5>off today, the very first.

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<v Speaker 6>He should be out early on the range.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, all right, Roger, keep an eye on him.

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<v Speaker 6>He's golfing with Carson Dally and Colin Jos de jacked.

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<v Speaker 6>Colin Joe's okay, all right, all right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I always tell Paulie I said, just remind me if

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a beef with anybody or somebody doesn't like me.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, I don't think that there's anybody here that

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<v Speaker 2>I really have an issue.

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<v Speaker 6>I got to bully myself a little here.

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<v Speaker 5>If I was with you in the group, I probably

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<v Speaker 5>would have said say hi to Roger, but I was

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<v Speaker 5>getting some mahima I takos, I know.

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<v Speaker 6>What you were.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The damn food truck guy comes out and goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I got your food, and Paul He's like, okay O,

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer Grant Hill will stop buy in about

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<v Speaker 2>who's doing the honors today?

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<v Speaker 4>Seaton?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I believe I am. Okay, which school are

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<v Speaker 8>you going to? This is based off of our guest

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<v Speaker 8>list today.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Harvard, Duke, Notre Dame, Boston College, North Carolina, Miami University.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the one in Ohio. Yes, that's the Miami right.

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<v Speaker 8>So Colin Jos went to Harvard Duke is Grant Hill obviously,

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<v Speaker 8>Bussy is a Domer VC is Matt Ryan, Vince Carter,

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<v Speaker 8>North Carolina guy, the miz Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Okay, I would probably I'd be a Domer I

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<v Speaker 2>think really, yeah, I think i'd do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd wake up the echoes.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, now you're not playing, you're just going.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh where am my social life is what we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about here?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean, well, Harvard is a hell of a

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<v Speaker 8>school to go to, right, It's great campus confirm confirmed.

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<v Speaker 6>Well these days it's take a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Of that's true public. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's still actually a great institution, Duke. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>there's a few places better to go watch college basketball, right.

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<v Speaker 8>Notre Dame is Notre Dame. It's great, Boston College, underrated, great.

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<v Speaker 4>City, maybe the best college city in America.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what, if you don't like Notre Dame, you're

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<v Speaker 8>going to b C one hundred, North Carolina. Same thing

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<v Speaker 8>as Duke, right, yeah, and that is great basketball all

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<v Speaker 8>in Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>I get to see Bill Belichick, you do, Yeah you

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Hudson. Yeah, accurate, Yeah, accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>I get to wear the Jordan brand.

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<v Speaker 8>Dude, that's sick. I would go to a school just

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<v Speaker 8>because they're like, oh wait, I could wear the Jordan brand,

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<v Speaker 8>and I signed there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, kids used to sign because that was an Adida

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<v Speaker 2>school or a Nike school. They went because of the

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<v Speaker 2>shoes that you're going to wear.

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<v Speaker 8>Not because their coaches from high school made them go.

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<v Speaker 8>Because of course, I mean, I mean, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 8>just because they wanted to wear Adida that they were

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<v Speaker 8>getting kickbacks.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerome vettis the bus. He stopped by yesterday after the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We sat down and talked to him, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of surprised at his physique. He almost looked like

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<v Speaker 2>a mini bus, and I said he might be losing

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<v Speaker 2>that great nickname of the bust. Okay, what's your weight

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<v Speaker 2>compared to when you when you played?

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<v Speaker 10>Right now, I'm still twenty pounds over when I played.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, so you're ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Was big old shorter pads on, so it make you

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<v Speaker 7>They make you look like you a lot bigger than

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<v Speaker 7>you really are.

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<v Speaker 10>But now there's it's all stomach.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you pick shoulder pads to make you look bigger?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 10>I needed them because I was doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of heavy lifting, so the little bitty shorter

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<v Speaker 10>paths didn't work for me. I needed to have some

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<v Speaker 10>shoulder pads that actually worked a lot of these players.

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<v Speaker 10>Nowadays the paths don't even work. I needed some functional

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<v Speaker 10>short pass because there were guys bigger than me trying

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<v Speaker 10>to take me out.

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<v Speaker 7>So I needed some real shoulder pads.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but explain to me that nobody has pads anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>small shoulder pads. You might have a mouthpiece, You might

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<v Speaker 2>not like what what's going on?

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<v Speaker 10>It's you know, it's about speed now, I think that's what.

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<v Speaker 10>Everybody's trying to get as much speed as they can.

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<v Speaker 10>So the big guys are wearing little pads, uh, and

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<v Speaker 10>little shorter pads so that they can be quicker and faster.

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<v Speaker 10>And then the fast guys are wearing nothing, no, no pads,

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<v Speaker 10>no nothing.

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<v Speaker 7>Very they want to be as quick as they can

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<v Speaker 7>possibly be.

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<v Speaker 6>And I've done that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you get if they hit you, period, you hurt.

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<v Speaker 10>Right now, these guys are trying not to get hit

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<v Speaker 10>at all, but if you get hit, it's going to hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the worst place that you got hit?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 10>I got hit in the quad and it split my

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<v Speaker 10>quad and it split it vertically, so so the muscles

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<v Speaker 10>kind of went that way. They didn't, it didn't tear,

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<v Speaker 10>they tore apart. It was a you know what, we're

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<v Speaker 10>playing Jacksonville and I don't I don't remember who hit me.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it was one of those hits.

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<v Speaker 10>It didn't seem like much, right, you get hit and

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<v Speaker 10>you know, you get up to and then you say ooh,

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<v Speaker 10>and then the day after you saying, oh, we got

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<v Speaker 10>a problem because this.

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<v Speaker 7>Is not this is not working that well and that

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<v Speaker 7>and that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you could and you could run like Derrick

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<v Speaker 2>Henry or Barkley, who would you want to run.

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<v Speaker 10>Like Squon Barkley because once he leaves, he's gone.

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<v Speaker 4>But Derrick Henry doesn't get caught, well, he couldn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Get caught very often.

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<v Speaker 10>But quin is gone once he he is gone. And

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<v Speaker 10>and what I just I just love the way he plays.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, Dereck Henry is a throwback. He could have

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<v Speaker 10>played in any era, right, I mean he's playing in

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<v Speaker 10>this era. He could have played in the air.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 10>Is just it's just fun because he he does some

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<v Speaker 10>things that I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>Think any other human can do at times.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, to see that run that he had that

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<v Speaker 10>he jumped, it was just you had to rewind it

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<v Speaker 10>because I was like, are you serious.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I've seen a lot of.

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<v Speaker 10>Great runs in my lifetime, but I think that was

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<v Speaker 10>the single most most athletic run from a running back

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<v Speaker 10>that I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, your longest run from scrimmage?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 10>From scrimmage? Yes, it was, I was. It was my

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<v Speaker 10>rookie year, I think, yeah, it was. We played we

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<v Speaker 10>were playing New Orleans, and I think it was seventy

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<v Speaker 10>seventy one.

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<v Speaker 7>Seventy one. I'm cheating myself, man, I can't cheat my yard.

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<v Speaker 6>I like how you acted like you didn't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I knew, I knew, I remember it, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought it was seventy Honestly, did.

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<v Speaker 4>You get no?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah take that. Take that Barry Sanders? Can

0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 2>you explain? Can you explain Barry Sanders? And let's say

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.120
<v Speaker 2>nobody saw Barry Sanders, and you're gonna say, hey, there's

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<v Speaker 2>this guy.

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<v Speaker 10>It's one of those you say, well, he does, he goes,

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<v Speaker 10>he'll stop.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't then, and then.

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<v Speaker 10>After all of those who say it is a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 10>it's a touchdown, it's a touchdown. But I can't really

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<v Speaker 10>tell you how he got there. He went one place,

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<v Speaker 10>he transformed to another place and ended up in the

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<v Speaker 10>end zone. I can't tell you how he got there

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<v Speaker 10>because people he did something special and it was special,

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<v Speaker 10>but I don't know what he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer Drome bettis joining us here Lake Tahoe.

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<v Speaker 2>The Steelers let Najee Harris go, and it always feels

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<v Speaker 2>like that offense is predicated on having a good running

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<v Speaker 2>back there.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know, they they went away from Naji.

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 7>I was a big fan of Naji Harris.

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<v Speaker 10>I saw him develop every single year and was impressive.

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<v Speaker 7>But team no, No, they're going to run the football.

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<v Speaker 10>They drafted young kid from Iowa who's really really good

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<v Speaker 10>running back.

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<v Speaker 4>You bring Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, you're still going to throw the football, but you're

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 10>still going to have to.

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<v Speaker 7>Run the football.

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 10>If you ask Aaron Rodgers, throw the ball forty times,

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 10>that's a mistake, And Aaron would tell you that's a mistake.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think he wants to throw the ball forty

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<v Speaker 10>times at forty years old, right, So he wants a

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 10>running game too, because now if he can throw between

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<v Speaker 10>twenty five and thirty balls, a game that's meaningful touches,

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 10>and so I just think they have got to run

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 10>the football because what you don't want to do is

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 10>have him running around in the pocket at forty forty

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 10>years old and taking those hits. You want them to

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 10>play action. And I think that's when Aaron Rodgers at

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 10>his best play action. He's moving, he's getting the ball out,

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 10>he's you know, quick in the huddle, out of the

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<v Speaker 10>huddle runner. So I think running the ball is a

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<v Speaker 10>big part of what they need to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you rather play for Marcus Freeman or Mike Thomlin, Oh.

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<v Speaker 10>Man, that's tough. Well, I'll tell you this. I would

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 10>say Mike Tomlin as a as an adult, right, as

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 10>a guy who's a veteran guy. If I was a

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 10>college player or a rookies first second year, I would

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<v Speaker 10>want to play for coach Freeman.

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<v Speaker 4>You freshman, he's there as a freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>And and I think it's two totally different types of coaches.

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<v Speaker 10>One he's you know, he's been there, he's done that,

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<v Speaker 10>he knows how to reach you. And the other guy

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 10>is a young coach. He's got energy and you know,

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.400
<v Speaker 10>he's you think he may be one of the players.

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<v Speaker 2>He's built something special there. He's tapped in to the

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<v Speaker 2>second generation of of NFL players.

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<v Speaker 10>He has and and and I think part of that

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<v Speaker 10>is NFL players understand the benefit of the educational side

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 10>of it, and they say, hey, if we if I

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<v Speaker 10>can get my son there, that'd be a great win

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 10>for me.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, you know, it's a little.

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<v Speaker 10>Different because you know the guys are transferring and moving around,

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 10>but you know they they want to they want to

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 10>try to get there because I think Coach Freeman he

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 10>resonates to those fathers of players who played. You know

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 10>I played, and you know a lot of other different

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 10>guys they played, and so now their sons are going

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 10>through it, and we know the questions to ask, and

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 10>we know what looks genuine. And when you look at

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.360
<v Speaker 10>Coach Freeman, you see that's genuine.

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 4>How's your golf kin, it's you know.

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<v Speaker 10>It's good until until put the lights on.

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<v Speaker 7>Until the lights come on, it's good until they line

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<v Speaker 7>up all the people on.

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<v Speaker 10>The fairway, and it's like, okay, uh no, but it's

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 10>it's it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>More nerve wracking playing in the super Bowl or playing

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 2>in this celebrity event.

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 7>Oh, this celebrity event way more nerve racking.

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 10>The super Bowl is only nerve wracking in pregame because

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 10>you know, you come out for the pregame and it's

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 10>you know, it's so much energy. It's so much energy, right,

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 10>and so you're seeing, you know, all these people and

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 10>people on the sidelines, you know, celebrities and this that,

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 10>and so you're seeing all these people as you're trying

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 10>to warm up, you know, and so people are talking

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 10>to you, and so you don't really get a chance

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 10>of warm up the way you did. But you warm

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 10>up and warm up twice. In the super Bowl. You

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 10>come out an hour and a half before. Then you

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 10>come out about thirty minutes before, so you so it's

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 10>it's a lot different. But here, uh, you know it's

0:26:58.520 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 10>just you.

0:26:59.080 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 6>And that ball.

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<v Speaker 10>Man. Hey, you start talking yourself, come on, do to rizing.

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 10>Go in the hole, Please go in the hole. Then

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 10>you start begging, please go in the hole.

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<v Speaker 4>Great to see it bout saying thanks for stopping on, thanks.

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<v Speaker 7>For having me. It's always great.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 4>WAP starting to get busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Here on a Thursday, Thursday morning here in Lake Tahoe,

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 2>golfers are ount ready to have their morning round.

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<v Speaker 6>What Paulieu to your left of the driving range is

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<v Speaker 6>the great Roger Clements.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, just throwing it out, Davy. He'll stop over and

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 2>say hello to me. Maybe it's an open invitation. You

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 2>guys are making this a beef. There's no beef between us,

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 2>not on my hey. I mean, you're making it seem

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<v Speaker 2>like I Mike Piazza.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 6>Was an awkward non encounter.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes it was, but it was my whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the NBA Hall of Famer Managing Director of

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>USA Men's Basketball, and we have named him the most

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Valuable Celebrity after last night we make way for the

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer. Grant Hill joined this on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why we're giving him the most Valuable Celebrity

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>the MVC is Grant actually initiated DAP with the Danettes.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>It did no other celebrity, no other celebrity gave DAP

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>to the Danettes last night with all the room full

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>of celebrities and mister nice guy, gr nicest guy in

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the room, you know, and let me start there, because

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 2>you are one of the nicest people I've ever met.

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>But I wonder, you know, guys talk about turning it

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>on in a killer instinct when you get on the floor.

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>If people meet you, you are You're one of the

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>nicest people and respectful people I've ever met in this business.

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<v Speaker 4>But could you always turn it on?

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Did you have that in your head that I'm going

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>to go out and kill you once I get on

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the floor.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, I think I'm a good person,

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 11>a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I did dapt these guys.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 11>Up fans of theirs, and I saw damn and I

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 11>went over and adapt you guys up.

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<v Speaker 6>You did so.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, but now you have to I mean, you don't

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 11>get to the NBA, you don't get to that level

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 11>All Star all NBA if you don't have a competitive streak.

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 11>And so, if anything, I think people sometimes can mistake

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 11>kindness for weakness. And so, but when we got between

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 11>those lines, you know, you had to put on almost

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 11>like you had to become a character. You know, you

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 11>had to put on a different personality. And so it

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 11>allowed me to, you know, go at guys and not

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 11>be nasty, you know, be a competitor, have sportsmanship, but

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 11>you're out there to win and compete, and then after

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 11>the game, whatever happens happens. But you know, I was

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 11>missed a nice guy. And you know they ran with

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 11>that in the nineties, and and you know, my wife

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 11>Will said, You're not always nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Compare your encore demeanor to Jordan and Kobe.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean, you know, I think for me, you

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 11>gotta be authentic, and you gotta sort of those guys

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 11>I think were assassins. You know, I remember vividly twenty twelve.

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 11>I'm in Las Vegas and I'm a free agent my

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 11>last year, about to be forty years old, and I

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 11>went to the USA basketball practice and it was a

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 11>twenty twelve team getting ready and the Lakers were sort

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 11>of recruiting me. I ended up signing with the Clippers.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 11>But I was talking to Kobe before practice and the

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 11>intensity in his face and talking about I'm about to

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 11>go out here and kill like he was. And I'm thinking,

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 11>this is, like, this is the same can practice on

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 11>day two and and like it was, it was, but

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 11>he was he was, that was him and and so

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 11>you know, and and then you look at Michael. You know,

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 11>Michael brought that Michael would manufacture things. But you know,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 11>I didn't go that far, you know, but I still

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 11>look I went out there, and you know, I think

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 11>if you ask the people who I played against, they

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 11>would tell you I was coming at them. And I

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 11>didn't really shoot a lot of jump shots. I'm coming

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 11>right at you, going at you know. And and that

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 11>was the mentality. And you know, I remember, I remember

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 11>my rookie year, we played the Knicks and I went

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 11>I went down. I was going one on one with

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 11>Anthony Bonner. Uh and I get by him and and

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 11>Oakley files me and I fall down, and you know,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 11>and I go to the free throw line to shoot

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 11>free throws. Next play, I go to the hole. This

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 11>time Bonner files me, but then Oakley foiules me again

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 11>and and then I fall down. And it was like,

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 11>I like, you got heart and he I was like,

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 11>I just couldn't shoot. So that was I had no

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 11>other option. I had to go in there.

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 11>But like I went at was like you know, I

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 11>mean I didn't it was always respectful. I didn't you know,

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 11>I know who oak is, but I wasn't going to

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 11>back down. And uh, and so I felt like I

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 11>felt like I won some some respect from him as

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 11>a rookie, which was hard to do.

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Pierce, let me know, tell me if I got this right.

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>You made him cry. His rookie year almost made him cry.

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 4>What happened?

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I don't remember.

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 11>You know, he told the story a few times where

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 11>his rookie season in Boston we played the Pistons, and

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 11>I guess, you know, he said, I had all, you know,

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 11>scored a bunch of points assist and just kind of

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 11>went at him every possession. And you know, I think,

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 11>I think the mindset then, I guess he came in

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 11>maybe ninety eight, ninety nine, the lockout season probably was

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 11>his first year. When you got a talented wing player

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 11>who's coming in as a top pick and you see

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 11>them for the first time, you want to go at

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 11>them and send a message. And that's just like, okay,

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 11>if I can, If I can go at them and

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 11>punish them the first time I see them, they're always

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 11>going to remember that.

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 6>And clearly he still does.

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 11>And so I don't remember the game, but I remember

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 11>like thinking like that, you know, Sharif abdor Raheem when

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 11>he came in, like guys that came in after me. Oh, yeah,

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 11>fresh meat. I'm going at them. And so look, I

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 11>love Paul, I love this game. I think he's an

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 11>underrated guy. I don't think people fully appreciate it.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Didn't he say he's the best pure scorer in the

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 4>in NBA.

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 11>History That I don't agree. No, But but I'll say this,

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 11>and I think people need to understand this, Like to

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 11>be great, to be a top ten, top twenty, like,

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 11>you have to have a delusion confidence and a delusional

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 11>belief in who you are and what you can do.

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<v Speaker 6>And so I told I said this before.

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<v Speaker 11>I think we were I think we were at the

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<v Speaker 11>final four in Minnesota, and I talked about going against Jordan,

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 11>and like you always felt that you were gonna win.

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<v Speaker 6>You have to believe. You have to believe, Like now,

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<v Speaker 6>we didn't win.

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<v Speaker 11>We didn't win much at all back in the nineties

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 11>against the bull, But you thought you were as good

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<v Speaker 11>as Jordan.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, And that's just part of being a competitor.

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<v Speaker 11>And you know, there were some moments where I was

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 11>able to go at them, and there are a few

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 11>times we beat them. They beat us more times than

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 11>we beat them. But you have to believe that, you

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 11>have to believe in yourself. So I don't agree with Paul,

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 11>but I understand sort of the mindset and where he's

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<v Speaker 11>coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Grant Hill, the Hall of Famer managing director of

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>USA men's basketball. What advice would you give Cooper flag?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 11>Wow, I think he's in a great spot. First of all,

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 11>I love Dallas. I love that he's got some good

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 11>talented players around him. And I went to a twenty

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 11>win team my rookie year and four years at Duke,

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 11>where you know it's about winning championships, and now you

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 11>go into an environment you just pick up bad habits.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you even lose twenty games in your career?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, that's a good question. I'm not sure that

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 6>that's that's a great.

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<v Speaker 11>Question because it's, oh, it just but what ends up

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 11>happening is that you become you start to settle in

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 11>to losing habits. And so just one year in a

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 11>bad environment, went from twenty wins to twenty eight.

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 6>My rookie year, big improvement.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:44.919
<v Speaker 11>But then when Doug Collins came in the next year,

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 11>he changed the culture and it was painful.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 6>But so losing is just tough.

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 11>So for him to go to a team that has

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.919
<v Speaker 11>been to the to the to the finals. That has

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 11>playoff expectations. I know Kyrie's out, we don't know if

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 11>he'll be out all season or not. It's a great environment.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 11>You know, Cooper's handled the pressure so well. It's remarkable

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 11>at a young age. How he You know, last summer

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 11>we brought him in and I was I was a

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 11>little worried that it might be too much for him.

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<v Speaker 6>But let's see, let's see, let's see what happens.

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 11>You know, everyone predicted he would be the number one

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 11>pick this year, and we brought him in with the

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 11>select team last summer and day two he was one

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 11>of the best players on the court and had no fear.

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:29.720
<v Speaker 6>He was going at these guys.

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 11>Now, I will say they didn't really know his game

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 11>and they didn't have the scouting report on him. So

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 11>I want to qualify things by saying that. But hey,

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 11>just go out there, compete, have fun. The weight of

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 11>the world's on your shoulders. You've got a great coach

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 11>and Jason Well, I think will utilize him, put the

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 11>ball in his hands, take advantage of his versatility.

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 6>So I'm excited to see what he can do.

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 11>But I think if he can, I think he's in

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 11>a great spot and he's got a chance to be

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.280
<v Speaker 11>on a winning team his first year, which is important

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 11>for a rookie.

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 2>We talk about the Hall of very Good. Not everybody's

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Famer, Yeah, but there are certain guys

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 2>that we put in the Hall of very Good, like

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Jamal Crawford all of very good.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah no, well, I mean, I mean he might be

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 11>the Hall of very very very good and yeah, yeah,

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 11>no Jamal. So Jamal is one of my favorite and

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 11>he knows that he's one of my favorite players. I

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 11>always say, Jamal's your favorite player's favorite player, Like he's

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 11>that guy.

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 6>He's the guy that you know KD Lebron Staff.

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 11>I mean, like guys like that they see him like man,

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 11>he is just unreal. And we played together my last

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 11>year and the Clippers, well he played, I was on

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 11>the bench. I was watching, but we sat together on

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 11>the plane and like this guy, he was like studying basket.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 11>He would go and look up clips on YouTube and

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 11>talk about games I played in in the nineties and

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 11>certain moves that I did, and we talked about like

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 11>he liked to go left pulling up. He's like, you

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 11>know what you inspired me? I got to work on

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 11>going right. And he's six man of the He's in

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 11>his prime at this time. He's already had multiple fifty

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 11>point games. But just you know, one day he comes

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 11>in with the Slam magazine when I'm on the cover.

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 11>He went online and bought it, and like he is

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 11>a basketball junkie, great talent, but just a real student

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 11>of the game.

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>So I have the utmost respect all of very very good.

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Anybody else in that hall of very very good. Now

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to make the Hall of Fame.

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, you know my class.

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 4>Glenn Robinson, Yeah, he should have been.

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 6>I mean, he he man, he was so good.

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>He came in and he I thought he was going

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 2>to change the game, being that tall, being able to

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 2>shoot deep. They gave him a hundred million dollars and

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 2>just never quite lived up till I think what people thought.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, yeah, look, I know I went against him.

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 11>I had to guard him, and he was as good

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 11>a player in my heyday when I was, you know,

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 11>in Detroit and healthy before I got hurt. Man, he

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 11>was a bucket one dribble, pull up high release. You know,

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 11>his name was appropriate. He was a dog like he

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 11>was and so you talked to small forwards from like

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.760
<v Speaker 11>jam Jamal Mashburn is another one from my era, but Mashburn, Pippin,

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 11>you know, you go down the line.

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 6>Guys. They had the utmost respect for Glenn Robinson.

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>There's a there was a highlight they showed last night

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>at the the get together where you cross over Scottie.

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Don't you go in and dunk?

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 6>What did that a few times?

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 4>It would have been nice if they showed you doing

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:47.280
<v Speaker 4>it against Jordan?

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, yeah, you know, I got joined a.

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 6>Couple of times.

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 11>I got Jordan. No, I had a tip dunk on Jordan.

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 11>So so I was on the break oist. I remember

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 11>the game. It was on NBC. It was on NBC.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 11>I remember we played It was one of the times

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 11>we beat them. We played them. It was the ninety

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 11>seventh season. It was maybe March or April of ninety seven,

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 11>towards the end of the season. And yeah, I had

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 11>a triple double. I think I got like a thirty

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 11>point triple double. I threw it ahead the oldest stor up.

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 11>He went in for a layup, he missed it, and

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 11>Jordan was there and I came and and kind of

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 11>I jumped over Jordan and dumped it and this footage

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 11>you can find it, you can't find it. But yeah,

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 11>so that was you know, that was the only time.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 11>But nah, I mean Jordan's man, he was, you know.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 11>And we get into this debate and I and I

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 11>hate the debate. Now I'm going to say who my

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 11>favorite is. But I hate the debate because it kind

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 11>of pits guys and generations against one another.

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<v Speaker 6>And here's the thing, Dan, You look at football, they

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 6>celebrate you know what.

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to wait to have you tell this story.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh man, okay, alright, alright.

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 2>So the next time I see you at another celebrity event,

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna tell me who you think the greatest player is.

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>He's grand Hill, the Hall of Famer. Hey, great to

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.280
<v Speaker 2>see you again. And most valuable celebrity.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll take a break. We're back after this.

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<v Speaker 6>The day is