WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Scouting The Redskins Defense 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.280 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:11.200 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.520 ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.880 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:26.040 Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.480 Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, October twenty six, twenty seventeen, 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.360 Season thirteen, episode number sixty two. Welcome to another edition 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.120 of The Break. I am Derek Eagleton, and we are 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.400 alive from s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.800 gonna talk some Cowboys football today, as we do every day. Today, 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:47.839 we're talking about the Washington Redskins defense versus the Cowboys offense. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.680 I'm sure Dave will have a great scauting report for us. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.000 I'm sure Amber and Nick are gonna tell you guys 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.800 some things that we should be concerned about with regards 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.160 to this Washington Redskins defense. And I'll just steer the 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.120 ship here and just like these guys shine as I 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:06.759 do every day. How's everybody this morning? Lovely? So great? Derek, 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:11.360 I love awesome. That was awesome I'm freaking great good. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.520 I love that. Thank you, cool brisk energy, breeze in 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.039 the air. Got to go up to not Washington but 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:22.360 Baltimore for a football game. Yeah, it's gonna be cold 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.080 tomorrow though. LSU can't lose this weekend because they're on 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.560 a buy Life is good. Oh y'all want to buy two. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.280 We want to buy two. So that's good. So I 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:35.400 love those weekends. Life's is good, Nick, I'm fine. S 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.840 Throwback Thursday. You know what today's strowback Thursday is what 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.360 it's gonna be on the site. The nineteen ninety nine 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.240 game between the Redskins and the Cowboys. It was my 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.120 very first game to be an employee with the team, 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.240 and uh, down twenty one in the fourth quarter, I thought, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.520 you know, this is this kind of sucks actually, but 0:01:53.560 --> 0:02:00.400 then Emmett Michael Troy rockets smile brought him back for 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.440 the longest or the best comeback in Cowboys just play 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.600 action pass. I remember the rocket pass. But yeah, yeah, come, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.720 I can watch the throwback Thursday when it goes on 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.720 the site maybe in the next hour or so. Good one. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.640 Yeah it was, it was the best one. I thought, 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.639 you know what if all games are like this, it'll 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:17.360 be awesome. So they won the first road game. They 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.000 went one and seven on the road that year. That 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:25.519 was that was the win. So good one. I don't 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.080 want to jinx myself or the team here, but the 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.160 Cowboys are six and two against Washington since I started 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.760 working here. Best record against the division foe. What was 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.280 what was there? It seemed like that Cowboys had gotten 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.679 into record territory there in the early two thousands. It 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:42.880 was about number of wins that they had in a row. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.440 It was about thirteen in a row. Was that a record? 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.640 I don't know what the record is. I mean maybe, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.239 but I know it all. It ended in two thousand 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:54.519 and two on Emmett's last game with the team, Campo's 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.880 last game as the coach and six guys miss curfew. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.839 Then before like wasn't didn't go well well, you kind 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:02.639 of could predict that was going to be the outcome. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.120 Carcels had already been rumored like this is not just 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:09.040 rumored like it was pretty much we do good games. Yeah, 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.600 one thing about Cowboys Redskins, it doesn't matter. It doesn't 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.320 matter about records. Now, this one's a good one. They're 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.800 both three and three. But over the years we've seen 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.520 the bad Redskin teams. And two thousand or ninety five, 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.640 when the Cowboys won the Super Bowl, they got swept 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.760 by the four and twelve Redskins. And when the Cowboys 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.079 were one and fifteen, of course they beat the Redskins. 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.040 So this game is always a good one, doesn't matter 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.080 what the records are. Amber, how are you this morning? 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:39.839 Moivia and Derek fel Lavide? Is that life? Living life? 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:45.320 Happy about life? Yeah? Context context clothes means happy. And 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.760 I've been watching Narcos, so I've been getting better at 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.760 kind of picking up them. How great is the intro 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:52.839 song on that show? It is great. The whole show. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.640 The whole show is really good. It's really great. It 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.440 became one of my favorites in a matter of the 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.200 first season, and that's on seasons this season three. That 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.280 did they just did. Yes, that's why Orlando keeps telling 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.200 me Scandrick every time he sees me. He's like, Amber, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.960 You're gonna be on Narcos, You're gonna be on Narcos. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.520 I'm like, just stop, just because I speak Spanish. Yeah, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.840 And then he got into a very weird conversation because 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.720 which conversation. Shocking, you'll have this not weird shocking, well 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.359 surprisingly kind of started by me and it just turned 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:30.160 into a very awkward, uncomfortable conversation. Inappropriate I could just imagine, right, yeah, yeah, 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.400 but it was my fault. You let him down the 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.400 path and then was like, oh, what did I do? Whatever? 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.600 I thought he was going a certain way with it, 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.479 so I got a little defensive and he wasn't talking 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.240 about a specific thing and I thought he was. So anyways, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.440 it was just a weird interaction there, and I want 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.320 to keep it very Yeah, I don't want to. I 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.320 don't want to go into detail because I really don't 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.320 want to have that conversation on there. All right, let's 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.080 go ahead and talk some football. Let's talk about injuries 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.640 as we do when we get started here. There were 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.000 four players from the Cowboys that did not practice yesterday, Cheeto, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.960 Dan Bailey, Tyren Smith, Kyle Wilbur. All of those except 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.080 for Kyle Wilbur, were kind of predicted. They were predictable. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.560 They've even either been injured or are injured currently. Kyle Wilber, though, 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.200 the knee injury, how serious is this? Is this something 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.080 that could threaten him playing? This week or is this 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:26.200 just a situation where again it's precautionary. I think it's 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.240 probably a little bit of both. He's got he's got 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.000 a pretty good limp on him. I've seen him a 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.800 couple of days now this week. I'm guessing he did 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.960 it during the game. It's his I think it's his 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:41.680 left knee. Hard for me to say, I'm I lean 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.680 more toward like this is probably something he can gear 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.920 up for though, Like I'm not ruling him out yet, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.960 but as usual, we'll see what practice looks like the 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.960 next two days. But he's got a pretty good hitch 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.520 in his giddy up just moving around the facility right now, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.440 that's for sure. I Mean, I think we say this 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.840 every week, but when you're talking about injuries, you got 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.760 to see what happens on, you know, Thursday, because if 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.840 they've missed more than one day of practice, then I 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:08.640 think it's significant. If they're just trying to give them 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.440 some rest to heal up, then that's one thing. But 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.840 but if he goes into this day and doesn't practice 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:15.719 or is limited, then I think you're going to start 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.840 looking at linebacker. Continues to be a situation for them 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:24.719 because Justine Durant limited with his ankle. It's an ankle, right, yes, no, 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.679 it's a growing right. Oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, justin 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.960 Durant's limited. Kyle did not practice, And so you know, 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.640 obviously Hitchins and Lee are fine, but you know, just 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.680 linebacker has been an injury concern for them all year long. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.960 If you're going to have injured linebackers, you'd prefer it 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.559 be anybody but Lee and Hitchens. I mean, yes, seeing 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.720 how that happens, those two guys obviously, and that's the 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.600 guys that are the front line guys. Those guys you 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.440 want healthy, but you know, I mean, you typically need 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.560 like six or seven, and it seems like they've never 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.920 had more than about four healthy at any given point 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.040 this year. So that's something to keep an eye on, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.440 all right, the it doesn't really seem like there's anything 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.480 else really that's new Cheeto at this point. Is there 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.440 anything we're hearing about him that suggested maybe this could 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.320 be the week where he at least not even not 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.800 even talking about plays, but at least maybe works back 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.320 into practice a little bit. I don't like, you know, 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.920 it's not a big deal when Tyron Smith is a 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.200 d NPR. I mean, you'd prefer he'd be healthy, but 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.600 you're just like, whatever, he'll get ready. But this guy's 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:28.400 a rookie. He hasn't really played significant snaps since Denver. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.600 Like I know, he gave it a go against Green Bay, 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.600 but it didn't didn't last very long. So I mean, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.400 you know, he's not he's not in that class of 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.840 player that I think of as like, well, he didn't 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.200 practice Wednesday, but he'll get it going like if he 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.440 was if he sat out completely yesterday, which he did. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.920 That leads me to believe that this is another week 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.480 where you probably shouldn't expect to see him. I mean, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.880 the Cowboys have played what ten games since the preseason? Oh, 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.080 how many games? Has he finished? Two? I feel like 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.480 he played the first game, he finished the Giants game. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.679 And what about in the preseason Hall of Fame I 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.760 thought he got hurt. No, he finished the Hall of 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.480 Fame game, and he got hurt in the Rams game. Yeah, 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.360 and then Urton he didn't play the Rams game. Whatever. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:21.160 But so he's finished two two games him, I mean, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.600 and I think I'm sure that the training staff's just 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.120 scratching their head on this one, Like you know, how 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.200 do you handle this one? Because he is a young 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.040 guy and he's a rookie and he's trying to figure out, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.360 all right, what how do we manage this? And it's 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.439 just gone back and forth, and I mean, I'm sure 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.040 everything they do is very cautious, but I just feel 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.680 like almost getting close to just shutting him down. But 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.280 like like you keep saying, if he can just practice, 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.600 it'll mean you don't need the roster spot right now, 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.240 He's not. He's not the number one priority. I think 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.440 if you needed a roster spot, I think you could 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.920 go killing Moore first, probably go a couple other spots 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.880 before you need cheat. Yeah, I don't think it's hurting 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.080 the team to be carrying him like this. It's just 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:09.280 obviously frustrating. But your second, you know, top number sixty 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.720 draft back. But if he keeps, if this keeps happening 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:16.440 and you want to put Rico on the roster, I 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.800 could see where that they could, which I believe you 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.600 can do after this game. After this game, he could 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.679 move up. Has he started practicing yet, No, so it's 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.079 not likely they move him up this week. I don't 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.080 count on it, but it is possible. But he's just 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.280 I mean, he's working out with the strength staff. He's 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.880 doing very basic stuff. He hasn't put on a uniform 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.040 explaining me the rules there. Do you have to make 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.000 a decision on him at a certain time or is 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.240 it just he is eligible for a decision and you 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.679 can ride that till. They could wait until week fifteen 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.640 and say now we want to make him active. He's 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.319 injured injured reserve is you could just be on it. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.000 I r all, there's two guys that you can bring 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.199 back after eight weeks. So what I'm saying when you 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:57.680 as far as the eight weeks, do you have to 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.760 bring them back at eight or you can just bring 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.520 anytime after eight weeks? I think you can just bring 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.760 him back. I believe this. Um didn't they do this 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:10.480 with Chaz Green? Maybe that was pop. I don't know, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.160 no one. When you make different When you make that decision, 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.280 it activates a three week practice window where he can 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.199 practice before you have to decide if you want to 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:23.160 put him on the roster at all. But there's no no, 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.120 they don't have to do that next week. They can 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.760 they can wait, they can wait. It doesn't they're not 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.800 forced to make a decision next week. They can wait 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.880 and at whatever point they choose to, if they choose 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:32.800 to make a decision, then they can do that. Absolutely, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.800 got it. Okay, they don't, they have time, they don't 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.400 have to do anything, right, Yeah, but if they wanted to, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.400 they can do it at any point after he served 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.880 basically eight games of being on injured reserve. We got it. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:49.400 See w Yeah, Yeah, it took me a second. Okay, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.840 all right, let's get to um let's get to the Redskins. Dave, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.040 are you ready with a scout of your port on 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.920 these Redskins? Um? Yeah, I can do what I can. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.600 Let's talk about the Red Skin's defense. Tell me, tell 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.680 me about this defense. Some of the players that are 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.200 names that we should know and be prepared to watch 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.400 this Sunday. You know what's funny is you would think 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.240 that you're like super duper familiar with these guys because 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.719 they're a division opponent. You play him twice a year, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.320 and to some degree that's true. I mean, you got 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.800 a lot of you got a lot of familiar faces here. No, actually, 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.240 I completely take that back. You really don't. That's my point. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.439 I guess you got you got Ryan Kerrigan. Everybody should 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.160 know him. He's good. He's you know, I think he's 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.280 got sixty three career sacks for them. He's their first 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.280 round pick. He's been there for five or six years. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.640 And then I mean there are guys that have been 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.320 there for a couple of years. You know. Preston Smith 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.360 is a guy that you should know. He's in his 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.880 third year. He's there leading pass rush right now. He's 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.719 got four and a half sacks. Big guy out of 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.960 Mississippi State. Mason Foster has been there for three years. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.760 Who am I forget? Ziggy Hood has McClain, well, Terrell McClain, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.400 you know, because he's a cowboy, but this is his 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.720 first year, and I guess that's are you're talking about 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.600 guys that have been with the Redskins that you've used 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:08.000 to see play again. Yeah, like you know, like D'Angelo 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.600 Hall is, like we've been playing this guy for years. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.480 There's not a lot of those guys out here though. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.160 I mean, all right, Josh Norman, he's in his second 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.280 year with the team. Um Bashad Brelan's been there for 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.920 a little while. But you know, like I said, Preston 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.319 Smith is relatively new. Stacy McGee and Ziggie Hood or 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:30.120 relatively new faces. Um one of their defensive ends who's 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:33.080 actually having a heck of a year's matt ianitis. I 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.600 think I'm pronouncing that right. He's only in his second year. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.079 Ryan Anderson is a twenty seventeen draft pick from Alabama. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.280 This year, Uh, same thing. Monte Nicholson actually has taken 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.600 a starting safety job as a rookie fourth round pick. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.600 Um Kendall Fuller's your primary nickelback and he's in his 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.280 second year. So, like, like I said, like you kind 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.760 of get used to seeing these faces over and over again. 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.560 But I'm watching the tape of the Redskins and I'm like, 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.320 these guys don't look that familiar to me. So that's 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:07.560 my first impression. My second impression is, I don't know, 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.400 maybe I'm wrong, but like when I think of a 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.880 three to four, I think of like super athletic guys, 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.800 even to the point of being like undersized, you know, 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.600 like Von Miller. He's he's obviously he's amazing, but like 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.480 you don't think of him as like this beefy guy, 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:27.720 right pass rusher. The Redskins are beefy, Like Preston Smith 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:31.440 and Ryan Kerrigan are your outside linebackers. But I would 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.960 wager that they might be bigger than any of the 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.600 four three ends on this team, Like they're just big dudes. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.440 And then obviously, if you're gonna play a three four, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.480 you got a lot of beef in the interior line. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.120 Like I said, Unitis Ziggie Hood are your primary too, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.280 down lineman. Terrell mcclan gets in there as well. Tell 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.360 me this, you talked about Karagan in him being a 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.600 beef your guy, but I think I remember seeing this 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.920 more frequently than not. I didn't charge it, so I 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.040 don't know about the numbers, but you did you get 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.280 the impression that Kerrigan's a guy that has his hand 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.400 on the ground more often than not, because it seems 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:06.960 to me that that's the way even when they only 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.800 have two down line and it seems like he has. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.520 It almost confused me to the point where I was like, 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.520 is he playing defensive end or outside linebacker? Though like 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.320 these Kerrigan and Smith are both listed. I mean, like 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.600 I said, it's a three four, but they basically are 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.000 down defensive ends in my I mean, like they do 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.160 do the stand up stuff, but they get down on 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.560 the ground just as much as anybody that plays for 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.680 this team. I think at least that's what I saw. Yeah, 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.280 and then again, two names that I recommend you know 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:40.720 are Zach Brown and Mason Foster well positions linebacker, interior linebackers. Um, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:45.240 they're you're leading tacklers again, Like this is just a 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.560 really physical and not at all undersized defense. I guess 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.000 that's really what I came away with having watched them. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.920 DJ Sweringer is a really physical safety. I also think 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.440 he's pretty bad at his job, Like he's just this 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.520 last week he got abused. He's not great in coverage, 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.360 like he's the quintessential I'm gonna lay this guy out. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.120 Oh wait, he's three steps behind me. Did you say 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.080 Roy Williams? Sorry, yeah, yeah, there's just something to that. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.640 Just just to further approve my I didn't have this 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.520 written down, but I just looked it up. Preston Smith 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.240 Dak Prescott's teammate out of Mississippi State, UM arguably their 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.880 best defender in my opinion. He's six six, two seventy like, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.200 but he's an out outside linebacker. Yeah, and that is 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.640 a huge linebacker. He's an outside linebacker. He's a big guy. Um, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:37.120 so I see, you know, and I remember talking about 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.600 this with the Rams too, Like they run a three four, 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.920 but I regular regularly was seeing as many as four 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.000 and five guys down on the line of scrimmage. They 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.040 play a lot of single high I think obviously when 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.200 when Josh Norman is in there, they trust him to 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:55.120 play a lot of man. But Shad Brelan also not 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.240 to the extent as Norman. I think like he's the 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.240 guy that you would think you can take advantage of 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.640 if they are gonna play man, and then they bring 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.360 one of their safeties down. Kendall Fuller's out there a lot, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:10.000 So like like every three four is like a little 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.200 bit of a different iteration of each other, And this 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:16.280 one to me just looks bigger and physical, and it 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.800 looks like I don't think about tweeners when I see 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.760 this defense. I'm just like, these are big, physical guys 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.360 and they just happen to play a three four. So 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.280 here's a question for you. You look at the statistics 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.960 of this defense and the kind of middle of the 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.840 pack in a lot of categories, but one thing that 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:34.280 stood out was their points allowed per game. They're twenty 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.760 six in the league, giving up twenty four point five 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.400 points per game. I have them at twenty fifth. I 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.440 wonder where, like we're looking at different Maybe I got 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.640 it from Pro Football Focus. I think I got it 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.120 from NFL. It doesn't matter either way. There's somewhere in 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.920 that range, given about twenty four points a game. That 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.520 being said, what what have teams done? And I know 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.040 specifically last week in Philadelphia they were able to score 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:57.920 a lot of points. What do you think teams have 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.680 done when they've been successful against this def what's the 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.840 key to neutralizing this defense and being able to take 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.400 advantage of them? Well, it's fun like you. I mean, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.600 they're middle of the pack across the board, they're twelfth 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.320 in yards per game, They're they're nineteenth against the past, 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.280 which isn't great but isn't terrible. But I do think 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.320 there's wins to be had against the secondary, especially you know, 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.719 just the Cowboys luck that I would guess Josh Norman's 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.200 going to be back for this game. I would bet, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.040 but without him. And I mean you saw it against Philly, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:31.320 like I said Mac Hollins, I mean, Carson Wentz just 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.400 dropped it over their whole defense for sixty eight yard touchdown. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.800 Chris Chris Clement, I think is Philly's running back again. 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.240 Amazing play by Carson Wentz, but he just beat single coverage. 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.680 So they're ninth against the run. And like I said, 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.280 so they have about as big and as physical affront 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.159 as I think you could expect someone to have. And 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.760 their two middle linebackers make all their tackles. I mean, 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.040 Mason Zach Brown has sixty three through six games, so 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.840 he's averaging ten game and Mason Foster's right behind him 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.840 at fifty three. So they cleaned that type of stuff up. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.240 And honestly, um, if there's a way I think you 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.760 can take advantage of them, it's probably chunk plays at 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.639 least that's what I've seen. Have they played a good 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.800 rushing team yet? And how did they fear in that 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.880 kind of game Kansas City And I don't have that 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.159 the stats in front of me. Can you check that 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:23.680 out for US Kansas City? How did they do it? 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:28.320 I can't get in there rushing versus the yes, But 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.240 what they lost? I mean they lost that game on 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.280 like the final possession of the game. They were They're 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.439 only lost of the year. Can't Oh no, no no, no, no, 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.159 it's Philly. I'm sorry. What if I think about I 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.399 don't know what you're thinking. Go ahead. Yeah, they lost 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.920 to Kansas City basically on the final possession and then 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.280 the famous you know, Kansas City returned the fumbel Ruski 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.040 for touchdown to cover the spread, like on the last 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.480 play of the game. A lot of people were upset, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.600 But I mean that was a tightly contested game, and honestly, 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.520 considering the way that the Chiefs offense was humming up 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.600 to that point, they played pretty well. I watched some 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.560 of that last night, not the whole thing. Yeah, so yeah, 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.960 I mean Hunt had one hundred and one yards they're 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.719 given they're they're they're giving up ninety five. Smith had 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.920 fifty six yards rushing, So so they as a team 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.800 probably rushed with somewhere in the range of one hundred 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.280 and seventy yards ian guess, yeah, which they're giving up. 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:23.040 It classic NFL like it reminds me. And obviously you 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.680 can stop the Cowboys. We've seen it happened. The Broncos 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.720 did it very well. But they're giving up ninety five 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.680 yards a game, which is top ten. But I look 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.600 at that and I'm tempted to think if you're allowing 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.800 an average of a hundred, like the Cowboys will go 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.840 over that average. Yeah, and if they had allowed one 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.520 hundred and seventy two the Redskins, you would think the 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.000 Cowboys should be able to run the ball right the Chiefs, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.240 I'm sorry, Chiefs, then you would think that I'm glad. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.879 I'm glad can't throw in Alex Smith's total because if 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.199 there's one, I mean, he's not in. Alex Smith had 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.240 a touchdown too. Rushing touchdown, he's not. He's not twenty 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.200 twelve era Colin Kaepernick. But Dak is running the ball 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.359 better than ever and it is a noteworthy part of 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.200 the offense every game over the last month. So he's 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.280 got three rushing touchdowns in his last four games and 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.160 one hundred and four yards over his last three. I think, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.080 so I would say you should expect to see that 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.880 and with a you know, not trying to. I think 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.280 Ryan Kerrigan and Preston Smith are awesome, but like with 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.720 a big, physical front like this, maybe you can take 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.919