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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, October twenty six, twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: Season thirteen, episode number sixty two. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of The Break. I am Derek Eagleton, and we are
Speaker 1: alive from s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk some Cowboys football today, as we do every day. Today,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Washington Redskins defense versus the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Dave will have a great scauting report for us.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Amber and Nick are gonna tell you guys
Speaker 1: some things that we should be concerned about with regards
Speaker 1: to this Washington Redskins defense. And I'll just steer the
Speaker 1: ship here and just like these guys shine as I
Speaker 1: do every day. How's everybody this morning? Lovely? So great? Derek,
Speaker 1: I love awesome. That was awesome I'm freaking great good.
Speaker 1: I love that. Thank you, cool brisk energy, breeze in
Speaker 1: the air. Got to go up to not Washington but
Speaker 1: Baltimore for a football game. Yeah, it's gonna be cold
Speaker 1: tomorrow though. LSU can't lose this weekend because they're on
Speaker 1: a buy Life is good. Oh y'all want to buy two.
Speaker 1: We want to buy two. So that's good. So I
Speaker 1: love those weekends. Life's is good, Nick, I'm fine. S
Speaker 1: Throwback Thursday. You know what today's strowback Thursday is what
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on the site. The nineteen ninety nine
Speaker 1: game between the Redskins and the Cowboys. It was my
Speaker 1: very first game to be an employee with the team,
Speaker 1: and uh, down twenty one in the fourth quarter, I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, this is this kind of sucks actually, but
Speaker 1: then Emmett Michael Troy rockets smile brought him back for
Speaker 1: the longest or the best comeback in Cowboys just play
Speaker 1: action pass. I remember the rocket pass. But yeah, yeah, come,
Speaker 1: I can watch the throwback Thursday when it goes on
Speaker 1: the site maybe in the next hour or so. Good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was, it was the best one. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what if all games are like this, it'll
Speaker 1: be awesome. So they won the first road game. They
Speaker 1: went one and seven on the road that year. That
Speaker 1: was that was the win. So good one. I don't
Speaker 1: want to jinx myself or the team here, but the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are six and two against Washington since I started
Speaker 1: working here. Best record against the division foe. What was
Speaker 1: what was there? It seemed like that Cowboys had gotten
Speaker 1: into record territory there in the early two thousands. It
Speaker 1: was about number of wins that they had in a row.
Speaker 1: It was about thirteen in a row. Was that a record?
Speaker 1: I don't know what the record is. I mean maybe,
Speaker 1: but I know it all. It ended in two thousand
Speaker 1: and two on Emmett's last game with the team, Campo's
Speaker 1: last game as the coach and six guys miss curfew.
Speaker 1: Then before like wasn't didn't go well well, you kind
Speaker 1: of could predict that was going to be the outcome.
Speaker 1: Carcels had already been rumored like this is not just
Speaker 1: rumored like it was pretty much we do good games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one thing about Cowboys Redskins, it doesn't matter. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter about records. Now, this one's a good one. They're
Speaker 1: both three and three. But over the years we've seen
Speaker 1: the bad Redskin teams. And two thousand or ninety five,
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys won the Super Bowl, they got swept
Speaker 1: by the four and twelve Redskins. And when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were one and fifteen, of course they beat the Redskins.
Speaker 1: So this game is always a good one, doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what the records are. Amber, how are you this morning?
Speaker 1: Moivia and Derek fel Lavide? Is that life? Living life?
Speaker 1: Happy about life? Yeah? Context context clothes means happy. And
Speaker 1: I've been watching Narcos, so I've been getting better at
Speaker 1: kind of picking up them. How great is the intro
Speaker 1: song on that show? It is great. The whole show.
Speaker 1: The whole show is really good. It's really great. It
Speaker 1: became one of my favorites in a matter of the
Speaker 1: first season, and that's on seasons this season three. That
Speaker 1: did they just did. Yes, that's why Orlando keeps telling
Speaker 1: me Scandrick every time he sees me. He's like, Amber,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on Narcos, You're gonna be on Narcos.
Speaker 1: I'm like, just stop, just because I speak Spanish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then he got into a very weird conversation because
Speaker 1: which conversation. Shocking, you'll have this not weird shocking, well
Speaker 1: surprisingly kind of started by me and it just turned
Speaker 1: into a very awkward, uncomfortable conversation. Inappropriate I could just imagine, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was my fault. You let him down the
Speaker 1: path and then was like, oh, what did I do? Whatever?
Speaker 1: I thought he was going a certain way with it,
Speaker 1: so I got a little defensive and he wasn't talking
Speaker 1: about a specific thing and I thought he was. So anyways,
Speaker 1: it was just a weird interaction there, and I want
Speaker 1: to keep it very Yeah, I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go into detail because I really don't
Speaker 1: want to have that conversation on there. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and talk some football. Let's talk about injuries
Speaker 1: as we do when we get started here. There were
Speaker 1: four players from the Cowboys that did not practice yesterday, Cheeto,
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey, Tyren Smith, Kyle Wilbur. All of those except
Speaker 1: for Kyle Wilbur, were kind of predicted. They were predictable.
Speaker 1: They've even either been injured or are injured currently. Kyle Wilber, though,
Speaker 1: the knee injury, how serious is this? Is this something
Speaker 1: that could threaten him playing? This week or is this
Speaker 1: just a situation where again it's precautionary. I think it's
Speaker 1: probably a little bit of both. He's got he's got
Speaker 1: a pretty good limp on him. I've seen him a
Speaker 1: couple of days now this week. I'm guessing he did
Speaker 1: it during the game. It's his I think it's his
Speaker 1: left knee. Hard for me to say, I'm I lean
Speaker 1: more toward like this is probably something he can gear
Speaker 1: up for though, Like I'm not ruling him out yet,
Speaker 1: but as usual, we'll see what practice looks like the
Speaker 1: next two days. But he's got a pretty good hitch
Speaker 1: in his giddy up just moving around the facility right now,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I Mean, I think we say this
Speaker 1: every week, but when you're talking about injuries, you got
Speaker 1: to see what happens on, you know, Thursday, because if
Speaker 1: they've missed more than one day of practice, then I
Speaker 1: think it's significant. If they're just trying to give them
Speaker 1: some rest to heal up, then that's one thing. But
Speaker 1: but if he goes into this day and doesn't practice
Speaker 1: or is limited, then I think you're going to start
Speaker 1: looking at linebacker. Continues to be a situation for them
Speaker 1: because Justine Durant limited with his ankle. It's an ankle, right, yes, no,
Speaker 1: it's a growing right. Oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, justin
Speaker 1: Durant's limited. Kyle did not practice, And so you know,
Speaker 1: obviously Hitchins and Lee are fine, but you know, just
Speaker 1: linebacker has been an injury concern for them all year long.
Speaker 1: If you're going to have injured linebackers, you'd prefer it
Speaker 1: be anybody but Lee and Hitchens. I mean, yes, seeing
Speaker 1: how that happens, those two guys obviously, and that's the
Speaker 1: guys that are the front line guys. Those guys you
Speaker 1: want healthy, but you know, I mean, you typically need
Speaker 1: like six or seven, and it seems like they've never
Speaker 1: had more than about four healthy at any given point
Speaker 1: this year. So that's something to keep an eye on,
Speaker 1: all right, the it doesn't really seem like there's anything
Speaker 1: else really that's new Cheeto at this point. Is there
Speaker 1: anything we're hearing about him that suggested maybe this could
Speaker 1: be the week where he at least not even not
Speaker 1: even talking about plays, but at least maybe works back
Speaker 1: into practice a little bit. I don't like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal when Tyron Smith is a
Speaker 1: d NPR. I mean, you'd prefer he'd be healthy, but
Speaker 1: you're just like, whatever, he'll get ready. But this guy's
Speaker 1: a rookie. He hasn't really played significant snaps since Denver.
Speaker 1: Like I know, he gave it a go against Green Bay,
Speaker 1: but it didn't didn't last very long. So I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not he's not in that class of
Speaker 1: player that I think of as like, well, he didn't
Speaker 1: practice Wednesday, but he'll get it going like if he
Speaker 1: was if he sat out completely yesterday, which he did.
Speaker 1: That leads me to believe that this is another week
Speaker 1: where you probably shouldn't expect to see him. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have played what ten games since the preseason? Oh,
Speaker 1: how many games? Has he finished? Two? I feel like
Speaker 1: he played the first game, he finished the Giants game.
Speaker 1: And what about in the preseason Hall of Fame I
Speaker 1: thought he got hurt. No, he finished the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame game, and he got hurt in the Rams game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Urton he didn't play the Rams game. Whatever.
Speaker 1: But so he's finished two two games him, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm sure that the training staff's just
Speaker 1: scratching their head on this one, Like you know, how
Speaker 1: do you handle this one? Because he is a young
Speaker 1: guy and he's a rookie and he's trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: all right, what how do we manage this? And it's
Speaker 1: just gone back and forth, and I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: everything they do is very cautious, but I just feel
Speaker 1: like almost getting close to just shutting him down. But
Speaker 1: like like you keep saying, if he can just practice,
Speaker 1: it'll mean you don't need the roster spot right now,
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not the number one priority. I think
Speaker 1: if you needed a roster spot, I think you could
Speaker 1: go killing Moore first, probably go a couple other spots
Speaker 1: before you need cheat. Yeah, I don't think it's hurting
Speaker 1: the team to be carrying him like this. It's just
Speaker 1: obviously frustrating. But your second, you know, top number sixty
Speaker 1: draft back. But if he keeps, if this keeps happening
Speaker 1: and you want to put Rico on the roster, I
Speaker 1: could see where that they could, which I believe you
Speaker 1: can do after this game. After this game, he could
Speaker 1: move up. Has he started practicing yet, No, so it's
Speaker 1: not likely they move him up this week. I don't
Speaker 1: count on it, but it is possible. But he's just
Speaker 1: I mean, he's working out with the strength staff. He's
Speaker 1: doing very basic stuff. He hasn't put on a uniform
Speaker 1: explaining me the rules there. Do you have to make
Speaker 1: a decision on him at a certain time or is
Speaker 1: it just he is eligible for a decision and you
Speaker 1: can ride that till. They could wait until week fifteen
Speaker 1: and say now we want to make him active. He's
Speaker 1: injured injured reserve is you could just be on it.
Speaker 1: I r all, there's two guys that you can bring
Speaker 1: back after eight weeks. So what I'm saying when you
Speaker 1: as far as the eight weeks, do you have to
Speaker 1: bring them back at eight or you can just bring
Speaker 1: anytime after eight weeks? I think you can just bring
Speaker 1: him back. I believe this. Um didn't they do this
Speaker 1: with Chaz Green? Maybe that was pop. I don't know,
Speaker 1: no one. When you make different When you make that decision,
Speaker 1: it activates a three week practice window where he can
Speaker 1: practice before you have to decide if you want to
Speaker 1: put him on the roster at all. But there's no no,
Speaker 1: they don't have to do that next week. They can
Speaker 1: they can wait, they can wait. It doesn't they're not
Speaker 1: forced to make a decision next week. They can wait
Speaker 1: and at whatever point they choose to, if they choose
Speaker 1: to make a decision, then they can do that. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: got it. Okay, they don't, they have time, they don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything, right, Yeah, but if they wanted to,
Speaker 1: they can do it at any point after he served
Speaker 1: basically eight games of being on injured reserve. We got it.
Speaker 1: See w Yeah, Yeah, it took me a second. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to um let's get to the Redskins. Dave,
Speaker 1: are you ready with a scout of your port on
Speaker 1: these Redskins? Um? Yeah, I can do what I can.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Red Skin's defense. Tell me, tell
Speaker 1: me about this defense. Some of the players that are
Speaker 1: names that we should know and be prepared to watch
Speaker 1: this Sunday. You know what's funny is you would think
Speaker 1: that you're like super duper familiar with these guys because
Speaker 1: they're a division opponent. You play him twice a year,
Speaker 1: and to some degree that's true. I mean, you got
Speaker 1: a lot of you got a lot of familiar faces here. No, actually,
Speaker 1: I completely take that back. You really don't. That's my point.
Speaker 1: I guess you got you got Ryan Kerrigan. Everybody should
Speaker 1: know him. He's good. He's you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: got sixty three career sacks for them. He's their first
Speaker 1: round pick. He's been there for five or six years.
Speaker 1: And then I mean there are guys that have been
Speaker 1: there for a couple of years. You know. Preston Smith
Speaker 1: is a guy that you should know. He's in his
Speaker 1: third year. He's there leading pass rush right now. He's
Speaker 1: got four and a half sacks. Big guy out of
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Mason Foster has been there for three years.
Speaker 1: Who am I forget? Ziggy Hood has McClain, well, Terrell McClain,
Speaker 1: you know, because he's a cowboy, but this is his
Speaker 1: first year, and I guess that's are you're talking about
Speaker 1: guys that have been with the Redskins that you've used
Speaker 1: to see play again. Yeah, like you know, like D'Angelo
Speaker 1: Hall is, like we've been playing this guy for years.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of those guys out here though.
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, Josh Norman, he's in his second
Speaker 1: year with the team. Um Bashad Brelan's been there for
Speaker 1: a little while. But you know, like I said, Preston
Speaker 1: Smith is relatively new. Stacy McGee and Ziggie Hood or
Speaker 1: relatively new faces. Um one of their defensive ends who's
Speaker 1: actually having a heck of a year's matt ianitis. I
Speaker 1: think I'm pronouncing that right. He's only in his second year.
Speaker 1: Ryan Anderson is a twenty seventeen draft pick from Alabama.
Speaker 1: This year, Uh, same thing. Monte Nicholson actually has taken
Speaker 1: a starting safety job as a rookie fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: Um Kendall Fuller's your primary nickelback and he's in his
Speaker 1: second year. So, like, like I said, like you kind
Speaker 1: of get used to seeing these faces over and over again.
Speaker 1: But I'm watching the tape of the Redskins and I'm like,
Speaker 1: these guys don't look that familiar to me. So that's
Speaker 1: my first impression. My second impression is, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but like when I think of a
Speaker 1: three to four, I think of like super athletic guys,
Speaker 1: even to the point of being like undersized, you know,
Speaker 1: like Von Miller. He's he's obviously he's amazing, but like
Speaker 1: you don't think of him as like this beefy guy,
Speaker 1: right pass rusher. The Redskins are beefy, Like Preston Smith
Speaker 1: and Ryan Kerrigan are your outside linebackers. But I would
Speaker 1: wager that they might be bigger than any of the
Speaker 1: four three ends on this team, Like they're just big dudes.
Speaker 1: And then obviously, if you're gonna play a three four,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of beef in the interior line.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Unitis Ziggie Hood are your primary too,
Speaker 1: down lineman. Terrell mcclan gets in there as well. Tell
Speaker 1: me this, you talked about Karagan in him being a
Speaker 1: beef your guy, but I think I remember seeing this
Speaker 1: more frequently than not. I didn't charge it, so I
Speaker 1: don't know about the numbers, but you did you get
Speaker 1: the impression that Kerrigan's a guy that has his hand
Speaker 1: on the ground more often than not, because it seems
Speaker 1: to me that that's the way even when they only
Speaker 1: have two down line and it seems like he has.
Speaker 1: It almost confused me to the point where I was like,
Speaker 1: is he playing defensive end or outside linebacker? Though like
Speaker 1: these Kerrigan and Smith are both listed. I mean, like
Speaker 1: I said, it's a three four, but they basically are
Speaker 1: down defensive ends in my I mean, like they do
Speaker 1: do the stand up stuff, but they get down on
Speaker 1: the ground just as much as anybody that plays for
Speaker 1: this team. I think at least that's what I saw. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then again, two names that I recommend you know
Speaker 1: are Zach Brown and Mason Foster well positions linebacker, interior linebackers. Um,
Speaker 1: they're you're leading tacklers again, Like this is just a
Speaker 1: really physical and not at all undersized defense. I guess
Speaker 1: that's really what I came away with having watched them.
Speaker 1: DJ Sweringer is a really physical safety. I also think
Speaker 1: he's pretty bad at his job, Like he's just this
Speaker 1: last week he got abused. He's not great in coverage,
Speaker 1: like he's the quintessential I'm gonna lay this guy out.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, he's three steps behind me. Did you say
Speaker 1: Roy Williams? Sorry, yeah, yeah, there's just something to that.
Speaker 1: Just just to further approve my I didn't have this
Speaker 1: written down, but I just looked it up. Preston Smith
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's teammate out of Mississippi State, UM arguably their
Speaker 1: best defender in my opinion. He's six six, two seventy like,
Speaker 1: but he's an out outside linebacker. Yeah, and that is
Speaker 1: a huge linebacker. He's an outside linebacker. He's a big guy. Um,
Speaker 1: so I see, you know, and I remember talking about
Speaker 1: this with the Rams too, Like they run a three four,
Speaker 1: but I regular regularly was seeing as many as four
Speaker 1: and five guys down on the line of scrimmage. They
Speaker 1: play a lot of single high I think obviously when
Speaker 1: when Josh Norman is in there, they trust him to
Speaker 1: play a lot of man. But Shad Brelan also not
Speaker 1: to the extent as Norman. I think like he's the
Speaker 1: guy that you would think you can take advantage of
Speaker 1: if they are gonna play man, and then they bring
Speaker 1: one of their safeties down. Kendall Fuller's out there a lot,
Speaker 1: So like like every three four is like a little
Speaker 1: bit of a different iteration of each other, And this
Speaker 1: one to me just looks bigger and physical, and it
Speaker 1: looks like I don't think about tweeners when I see
Speaker 1: this defense. I'm just like, these are big, physical guys
Speaker 1: and they just happen to play a three four. So
Speaker 1: here's a question for you. You look at the statistics
Speaker 1: of this defense and the kind of middle of the
Speaker 1: pack in a lot of categories, but one thing that
Speaker 1: stood out was their points allowed per game. They're twenty
Speaker 1: six in the league, giving up twenty four point five
Speaker 1: points per game. I have them at twenty fifth. I
Speaker 1: wonder where, like we're looking at different Maybe I got
Speaker 1: it from Pro Football Focus. I think I got it
Speaker 1: from NFL. It doesn't matter either way. There's somewhere in
Speaker 1: that range, given about twenty four points a game. That
Speaker 1: being said, what what have teams done? And I know
Speaker 1: specifically last week in Philadelphia they were able to score
Speaker 1: a lot of points. What do you think teams have
Speaker 1: done when they've been successful against this def what's the
Speaker 1: key to neutralizing this defense and being able to take
Speaker 1: advantage of them? Well, it's fun like you. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're middle of the pack across the board, they're twelfth
Speaker 1: in yards per game, They're they're nineteenth against the past,
Speaker 1: which isn't great but isn't terrible. But I do think
Speaker 1: there's wins to be had against the secondary, especially you know,
Speaker 1: just the Cowboys luck that I would guess Josh Norman's
Speaker 1: going to be back for this game. I would bet,
Speaker 1: but without him. And I mean you saw it against Philly,
Speaker 1: like I said Mac Hollins, I mean, Carson Wentz just
Speaker 1: dropped it over their whole defense for sixty eight yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: Chris Chris Clement, I think is Philly's running back again.
Speaker 1: Amazing play by Carson Wentz, but he just beat single coverage.
Speaker 1: So they're ninth against the run. And like I said,
Speaker 1: so they have about as big and as physical affront
Speaker 1: as I think you could expect someone to have. And
Speaker 1: their two middle linebackers make all their tackles. I mean,
Speaker 1: Mason Zach Brown has sixty three through six games, so
Speaker 1: he's averaging ten game and Mason Foster's right behind him
Speaker 1: at fifty three. So they cleaned that type of stuff up.
Speaker 1: And honestly, um, if there's a way I think you
Speaker 1: can take advantage of them, it's probably chunk plays at
Speaker 1: least that's what I've seen. Have they played a good
Speaker 1: rushing team yet? And how did they fear in that
Speaker 1: kind of game Kansas City And I don't have that
Speaker 1: the stats in front of me. Can you check that
Speaker 1: out for US Kansas City? How did they do it?
Speaker 1: I can't get in there rushing versus the yes, But
Speaker 1: what they lost? I mean they lost that game on
Speaker 1: like the final possession of the game. They were They're
Speaker 1: only lost of the year. Can't Oh no, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's Philly. I'm sorry. What if I think about I
Speaker 1: don't know what you're thinking. Go ahead. Yeah, they lost
Speaker 1: to Kansas City basically on the final possession and then
Speaker 1: the famous you know, Kansas City returned the fumbel Ruski
Speaker 1: for touchdown to cover the spread, like on the last
Speaker 1: play of the game. A lot of people were upset,
Speaker 1: But I mean that was a tightly contested game, and honestly,
Speaker 1: considering the way that the Chiefs offense was humming up
Speaker 1: to that point, they played pretty well. I watched some
Speaker 1: of that last night, not the whole thing. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Hunt had one hundred and one yards they're
Speaker 1: given they're they're they're giving up ninety five. Smith had
Speaker 1: fifty six yards rushing, So so they as a team
Speaker 1: probably rushed with somewhere in the range of one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy yards ian guess, yeah, which they're giving up.
Speaker 1: It classic NFL like it reminds me. And obviously you
Speaker 1: can stop the Cowboys. We've seen it happened. The Broncos
Speaker 1: did it very well. But they're giving up ninety five
Speaker 1: yards a game, which is top ten. But I look
Speaker 1: at that and I'm tempted to think if you're allowing
Speaker 1: an average of a hundred, like the Cowboys will go
Speaker 1: over that average. Yeah, and if they had allowed one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two the Redskins, you would think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys should be able to run the ball right the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Chiefs, then you would think that I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad can't throw in Alex Smith's total because if
Speaker 1: there's one, I mean, he's not in. Alex Smith had
Speaker 1: a touchdown too. Rushing touchdown, he's not. He's not twenty
Speaker 1: twelve era Colin Kaepernick. But Dak is running the ball
Speaker 1: better than ever and it is a noteworthy part of
Speaker 1: the offense every game over the last month. So he's
Speaker 1: got three rushing touchdowns in his last four games and
Speaker 1: one hundred and four yards over his last three. I think,
Speaker 1: so I would say you should expect to see that
Speaker 1: and with a you know, not trying to. I think
Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan and Preston Smith are awesome, but like with
Speaker 1: a big, physical front like this, maybe you can take
Speaker 1: advantage of that with some misdirection type stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can get outside of that, if they crash
Speaker 1: down like they're not the type of guys that are
Speaker 1: going to run you down in the backfield on a misdirection.
Speaker 1: So all right, so here's gonna be. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, I want Amber and
Speaker 1: Nick to tell us about all those things that Dave
Speaker 1: kind of laid out. What's the one thing that you
Speaker 1: think should be the biggest concern for the Cowboys facing
Speaker 1: this Ridskins defense. We'll do it when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is the second segment of the Break
Speaker 1: Life from SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: versus Redskins. The day we're focusing in on the Redskins
Speaker 1: defense and the Cowboys offense. They gave a scouting report.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get to Amber and Nick and they're
Speaker 1: gonna give us at least one thing that you noticed
Speaker 1: about this particular defense that stands out to you, or
Speaker 1: maybe even a concern that you might have specific to
Speaker 1: one thing about this defense, Am Let's start with you. Honestly,
Speaker 1: there's nothing that really worries me about their defense right now,
Speaker 1: aside from the fact, I mean you talked about the
Speaker 1: run defense. That would be the one area that stands
Speaker 1: out to me. But even then, they're supposed to be
Speaker 1: ranked amongst the top ones in the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: but their stats don't prove so, or at least they
Speaker 1: haven't really been doing that too well. They do tackle
Speaker 1: really good, and I'm just really interested to see how
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to be able to manage that,
Speaker 1: if their O line is going to be able to
Speaker 1: keep that job going, how well they did against the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, if they're gonna be able to be
Speaker 1: in sync, do you open those right holes in spaces
Speaker 1: for k and Zeke being able to carry that away
Speaker 1: once again and have a great game. So that's that's honestly,
Speaker 1: they do one thing. I'm just I'm not worried, but
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how they're gonna go up against
Speaker 1: each other. All right, Nick, you know one thing that
Speaker 1: they are really bad at um is scoring at the
Speaker 1: end of half of the two minute defense, and so
Speaker 1: one that's one thing that I'm kind of wondering about
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys having an issue at kicker. Let's see
Speaker 1: how good the new gen is and how what his
Speaker 1: range is like. But if you go back to the
Speaker 1: six games that they've played, they've given up fifty one points.
Speaker 1: That's the average is twenty four. They're they're they're the
Speaker 1: worst in the final two minutes of scoring. The Redskins defense.
Speaker 1: The Redskins defense, they gave up two scores to Philly
Speaker 1: this last game. They gave a field goal in the
Speaker 1: first game, they field goal in the Rams game, a
Speaker 1: field goal drive against KC but they missed the field
Speaker 1: goal and then the Niners scored on the last play
Speaker 1: of the half there. So they're averaging fifty I mean there,
Speaker 1: given up fifty one points there. And in the two
Speaker 1: minute defense they're also the worst. So you wonder about that.
Speaker 1: You know that Dack's really good at two minutes, and
Speaker 1: you know Romo was really good at it two They've
Speaker 1: always have something going there. But with the kicking situation
Speaker 1: the way it is, you know, and they probably feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. Real they wouldn't assign nu gym, but
Speaker 1: you wonder if they can take advantage of that with
Speaker 1: with you know what kind of range they need to
Speaker 1: get in for him. As we talked about yesterday, it
Speaker 1: seems like he's been even last year when he had
Speaker 1: the struggles at the extra point, he's been pretty consistent
Speaker 1: forty nine and less. That just does change things from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of that long range field goal. So now
Speaker 1: you do need those couple extra yards to kind of
Speaker 1: get you down in the mid forties where I'd probably
Speaker 1: feel a little more comfortable in putting him out there.
Speaker 1: Where with Dan Bailey, if you get to fifty two
Speaker 1: fifty three, you're like, hey, let's give it a shot,
Speaker 1: and we feel pretty good that he's gonna make it.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the half, you know, your
Speaker 1: range is a little bit different because if you miss,
Speaker 1: what happens, it's not that big a deal. Now, if
Speaker 1: the run defense is able to kind of stop the
Speaker 1: run the Cowboys running game a little bit and kind
Speaker 1: of Forrest Dad to throw the ball more, are you
Speaker 1: guys feeling very comfortable with the whole day connecting better
Speaker 1: with the receivers right now? The big thing for I,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think back to last year, this
Speaker 1: was the game and it was only week two, but
Speaker 1: like Dez sort of got on track in this game
Speaker 1: after he had similar struggles against the Giants where they
Speaker 1: targeted him like nine times for eight yards or something
Speaker 1: like that, and then he had one hundred yard day
Speaker 1: against mainly against Breylon, which is my point. I mean,
Speaker 1: they play a lot of man, but you can take
Speaker 1: advantage of it to a degree. I think over the
Speaker 1: I mean, Dez has yet to have a one hundred
Speaker 1: yard game, but I think their their connection has been
Speaker 1: better over the last two or so games to the
Speaker 1: point where it's not something that worries me that much.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at Josh Norman, if he's
Speaker 1: healthy and ready to play, what they did to Oakland
Speaker 1: back in I think Week three that was domination right there.
Speaker 1: And Oakland's got a really good passing game with two
Speaker 1: good receivers and they shut them down. So you know
Speaker 1: that they can do that. I don't. We talked about
Speaker 1: his his injury ribs. I don't. I have a hard
Speaker 1: time thinking he's gonna miss the game. But but you know,
Speaker 1: he was limited last week. I think it'll be he's
Speaker 1: limited this week. They haven't really practiced yet. We'll see. Well,
Speaker 1: they had seventeen guys on the injury report a lot.
Speaker 1: Now that that was an approximation. Yeah, they didn't practice,
Speaker 1: but if they did practice, that's what it would have been.
Speaker 1: So seventeen guys. I have a hard time seeing him play,
Speaker 1: you think, I think just because if you're arguing with
Speaker 1: you again, no, no, no, no, no, I just say,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking in the way like if you know,
Speaker 1: we know the whole drama with Dez and all that,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, if you're not fully one hundred percent, are
Speaker 1: you really going to put yourself out there to go
Speaker 1: up against Dez and give the chance to maybe not
Speaker 1: be able to perform at your highest level? And now
Speaker 1: you're you know, but the issue is it's it's ribs.
Speaker 1: It'd be one thing if his ankle or knee where
Speaker 1: he couldn't run, he can run, and so then it's
Speaker 1: a matter of probably it's more about pain tolerance, and
Speaker 1: you would think that if that's the situation, and if
Speaker 1: they can give him something that helps deal with the pain,
Speaker 1: then he probably feels like, I can still run, so
Speaker 1: I can still cover. And that's the part where I think,
Speaker 1: if he can get out there and go even if
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to deal with some pain. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to miss this opportunity to matter. Yeah
Speaker 1: I haven't. I have not, But I saw Tony Romo
Speaker 1: play a lot sooner. He really sucking. I've heard that too,
Speaker 1: chasing wide receiver. Okay, so let me ask you. Do
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna sit out because of broken ribs
Speaker 1: after three weeks. I'm not saying he will never, but
Speaker 1: it's a possibility. I'm saying if he's not, he would
Speaker 1: not put himself out there and be embarrassed in front
Speaker 1: of death with this, with this matchup, there's something to
Speaker 1: be said for that. Yeah, they have a commercial to
Speaker 1: get yes, their hatred because Duke wants to play against Dez,
Speaker 1: because that's like they have that right. But but the
Speaker 1: point is is that if Dez tortures him because he
Speaker 1: really can't run and jump like he wants to do,
Speaker 1: you think anyone's gonna care other than him that he had?
Speaker 1: No one cares about that. No. But also is you
Speaker 1: are people gonna say, yeah, you got you have broken
Speaker 1: riffs so you can't play? Huh you missed two others.
Speaker 1: I mean this was supposed to be like a four.
Speaker 1: I thought this was supposed to be the last game
Speaker 1: of his of the time that he would have to
Speaker 1: be out. I thought two to four weeks, yeah, and
Speaker 1: this was gonna be the fourth game supposedly, is it though?
Speaker 1: That's what at the time it happened. I remember because
Speaker 1: I tweeted it. It was like the timetable. This was
Speaker 1: the back end of the timetable and he would be
Speaker 1: back the game after the counter hurt in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I don't remember which game it was. He's missed two
Speaker 1: so they had to buy in there. Okay, So Jay
Speaker 1: Gruden says he should return to practice this week. They
Speaker 1: didn't practice yesterday, but he thinks he's gonna practice, and
Speaker 1: the question will be is he if he's gone, can
Speaker 1: I go back though I'm sorry, glad if he was
Speaker 1: limited last weekend in practice this week he'll probably play. Okay.
Speaker 1: Can I go back to that original question that you
Speaker 1: had about the about the you know what how they kin? Yeah,
Speaker 1: connecting on those plays. I actually think one of the
Speaker 1: they've mentioned that they play a lot of man and
Speaker 1: if you watch that Philly game, one of the things
Speaker 1: that you notice is they are most of their big
Speaker 1: plays came on plays where there was pressure and then
Speaker 1: Wentz would escape the pressure and then he would throw
Speaker 1: the ball down field. When you're playing man, it kind
Speaker 1: of leaves your cornerbacks in those kind of vulnerable situations
Speaker 1: because the play gets extended and it's hard to keep
Speaker 1: up with your man wants to play extends, And so
Speaker 1: if you look at it from that perspective, I think
Speaker 1: they're created some good opportunities for the Cowboys because Dad
Speaker 1: can allude pressure. We know that, We've seen that a lot.
Speaker 1: Dak makes some of his best throws when he's on
Speaker 1: the run, and it gives the cornerbacks a little more
Speaker 1: time to be able to now break off their routes
Speaker 1: and may create some separation because they can just kind
Speaker 1: of get away from a defender who's just having a
Speaker 1: cover for too long. So I think when you look
Speaker 1: at it from that perspective, it could create actually some
Speaker 1: good opportunities for the Cowboys. They maybe they haven't been
Speaker 1: presented with as much to this point, but we'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with I mean, well said Derek. I don't
Speaker 1: want me to argue with you. Sure, that's what you
Speaker 1: usually do. I guess I was just waiting out infecting
Speaker 1: something idiot. I hate that idea. I was going by
Speaker 1: not necessarily about the defenders. It was more, you know,
Speaker 1: being in sync with the receivers, and like Dave said,
Speaker 1: we have seen them getting better in the past couple
Speaker 1: of games. So I was just checking with you guys.
Speaker 1: I will say I will say this. You know, we
Speaker 1: had a caller on Monday that was mad that Terrence
Speaker 1: didn't have a good or maybe it was a tweeter
Speaker 1: that was mad that Terrence didn't have a good game.
Speaker 1: They called in. I still don't care. But if the
Speaker 1: Redskins are taped capable of taking away days or limiting him,
Speaker 1: that's when that matters. I mean, you look at the
Speaker 1: stat sheet last week. Terrence zero catches on three targets
Speaker 1: and Cole Beasley had one catch for twenty four yards.
Speaker 1: And again, that doesn't bother me at all because everything
Speaker 1: else was humming. But if everything else isn't clicking like that,
Speaker 1: then that's when you need those guys to be able
Speaker 1: to win their matchups. All right, we're gonna get some questions.
Speaker 1: Call us the numbers in two one four eight seven
Speaker 1: two twenty one O two. Again it is two one,
Speaker 1: four eight seven two twenty one oh two or hit
Speaker 1: us on Twitter at Cowboys Break. Let's start first with
Speaker 1: a question from Twitter on you took me out? You
Speaker 1: caught me out of him? People are just still talking
Speaker 1: about things we are definitely not discussing right now. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: just comments on Death and Norman, like what like, what's
Speaker 1: the what's the general telling. Do people think that he's
Speaker 1: actually going to play this weekend? Yeah? People, I think
Speaker 1: he will go up. I mean right now, from what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing is they think Norman is too prieful to
Speaker 1: be out of the game and I'll go in there
Speaker 1: and face Death us one on one, So that that's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see. But again, aside from from that,
Speaker 1: what would be your biggest matchup here, either either side
Speaker 1: of the ball, offense or defense? What would be your
Speaker 1: biggest matchup? Well, woman's back. Yeah, well, okay, we talked
Speaker 1: about him. But I still like the Byron Jones or
Speaker 1: um Heath going up against the tight ends. I think
Speaker 1: that that both Davis and Jordan Reid are playing really
Speaker 1: well and they don't have to be playing well Like
Speaker 1: that's a good matchup for anybody with a good pass
Speaker 1: catching tight end. Just wait till Philly you know comes
Speaker 1: in with arts like that, that's going to be a problem.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of hurts. Yeah, So I think I
Speaker 1: think it'll be. I think the tight end is going
Speaker 1: to be the issue there for the Cowboys. They got
Speaker 1: to make sure to get that stopped. Well, here's one
Speaker 1: of all. It's not regarding this specific, but it is
Speaker 1: regarding Kellen Moore. Are the Cowboys planning to groom him
Speaker 1: as a coach or something or why else have they
Speaker 1: not tried to cut him? Like? Why are they still
Speaker 1: keeping him around? There's only so many ways we can
Speaker 1: say this, and that's because they don't want to basically,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, like I'm I think we're all at
Speaker 1: the point where we think that that would not be
Speaker 1: a big deal, especially if you're willing to make Cooper
Speaker 1: rush your back up and actually have him be one
Speaker 1: play away, which he was against San Francisco. But I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys like having that safety net for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Enough key people there trust that he's good for the
Speaker 1: quarterback room and he's capable of doing the job. And
Speaker 1: not very many people agree with them, and that doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter because they're the ones that make the decisions.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what else we can say about that,
Speaker 1: And I get that it's frustrating, but it is what
Speaker 1: it is. But that's the point, Like fans, it's not
Speaker 1: that big a deal. He's not gonna see the feel
Speaker 1: and right now, I don't think it's messing with your
Speaker 1: fifty three, like I don't think there are guys that
Speaker 1: have been cut that well, probably he should have been
Speaker 1: cut instead of this goes sorry, Nick, go ahead. I
Speaker 1: was just saying, when you think about, like before paring
Speaker 1: down the roster like we do in training camp sometimes
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there and you're like, all right, I
Speaker 1: got the sheet, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go three quarterbacks. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go four tailbacks and a fullback. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: on six receivers. How many tight ends of them? Three?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go two kickers too. You're like, wait, wait
Speaker 1: a second here, like this this doesn't work. I got
Speaker 1: give what's what's going on? And it's not like it's
Speaker 1: really that bad. On the other end, it's just a
Speaker 1: little bit thinner at at defensive end or the defensive line.
Speaker 1: Right now, I guess you'd say a little bit thinner
Speaker 1: at offensive line, but nothing too bad that's hurting them.
Speaker 1: It's said from the I get it from the outsider's perspective,
Speaker 1: because again, is he lighting the world on fire? No,
Speaker 1: but Demantre Moore gets into the game and has at
Speaker 1: least made an impact in a handful of situations. He
Speaker 1: had five tackles, he has a few hurries. We have
Speaker 1: discussed already that that move was probably more than just
Speaker 1: about football. But from the outsider's perspective, where you're just like, well,
Speaker 1: like Demontre Moore, like he tackled Carson Palmer that one time,
Speaker 1: what's Kellen Moore done? Like, I get it, But like
Speaker 1: I said, it is what it is, you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to like justify it the moment.
Speaker 1: I could do that, but I don't want to. You
Speaker 1: just sometimes you just have to say, well, nobody but
Speaker 1: those people actually gets to make the call, and that's
Speaker 1: what they want to do. The moment that they cut
Speaker 1: a player that I think they really want to keep
Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore is still on the fifty three, that's
Speaker 1: the moment when I think it becomes an issue. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's been that yet. That's why I'm saying
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's a big deal yet. And
Speaker 1: again I get your point. And if you don't like,
Speaker 1: if you don't buy that there, if you believe that
Speaker 1: that was just a football decision with Demontre more than yes,
Speaker 1: you have absolutely every right to be saying that was
Speaker 1: a add move instead of Kelly Moore. I just don't
Speaker 1: happen to believe that, right, Okay, sample man says he
Speaker 1: has a crazy thought for you guys, Oh what a
Speaker 1: crazy thought? Okay, sorry thou That's two completely different things.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that desk could do some damage
Speaker 1: in the slot? What would be the positive versus negatives?
Speaker 1: He does play in the slot, so having him, well,
Speaker 1: I think he's Yeah, he's moved. I think he's moved
Speaker 1: around more this year than most other years. Um, which
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an interesting matchup for that to happen.
Speaker 1: And that's it's like the it's so cliche at this point, like,
Speaker 1: well is Norman going to travel with him? And blah blah.
Speaker 1: I mean you could move him to try to get
Speaker 1: him better. I mean, he he makes good plays out
Speaker 1: of the slot. I don't. I don't really. I think
Speaker 1: it makes a difference if you're moving him to scheme
Speaker 1: him away from a better corner. But I would imagine
Speaker 1: that Norman would just go with him if it were
Speaker 1: to happen. But I think that's where the issue is,
Speaker 1: is that if you're just going to play regular defense
Speaker 1: and you put him in the slot, then you know,
Speaker 1: they don't change what they do. But if Norman has
Speaker 1: to go in there, I'm not saying he's not comfortable
Speaker 1: in there, but but you know, it's slot is a
Speaker 1: tougher situation. So, um, I think you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: Dez really beat Norman in some plays. We've seen Norman
Speaker 1: gets the best of them. It's a really good health
Speaker 1: I don't know healthy, he's the right word. It's a
Speaker 1: good matchup. It's not healthy. I mean, yeah, there's nothing
Speaker 1: healthy about that relationship. No, it's it's not it's it's
Speaker 1: healthy competition, but it's not a good relationship. Um. I
Speaker 1: think there's mutual respect there. I mean, there has to, um,
Speaker 1: But but I don't think. I don't think they hate
Speaker 1: each other the way that it's kind of nah. I
Speaker 1: think it's a part of the game. It's a part
Speaker 1: of the fun for them. Yeah, I think it's just
Speaker 1: two guys. He knows this. One of Deza's worst plays
Speaker 1: he's ever had was because of Josh Norman, and he
Speaker 1: can never do that again. Like if there's an interception
Speaker 1: that's thrown and they're running into the end zone and
Speaker 1: he stops on the play because he wants to bark
Speaker 1: and get into Norman's face, that's unacceptable. And so he
Speaker 1: can't let Norman or any cornerback get him out of
Speaker 1: his game. And hopefully, you know, and if I'm Josh
Speaker 1: Norman and you know that, and you know that, you're
Speaker 1: going to be getting in his face because all it
Speaker 1: has to do is hit him and push them back
Speaker 1: or you know, get distracted. All right, we're gonna take
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Speaker 1: take over the read them again. I got him back. Awesome,
Speaker 1: Thank you. If you do a bad enough job with something,
Speaker 1: somebody won't ask you to do it again. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Oh no, I will ask you to
Speaker 1: do it again. I'm just gonna give you a little
Speaker 1: while to try to write something. Dishes uh, stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: into some questions. The numbers two one, four, eight seven
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Speaker 1: from Ken and Louisiana. Ken, what up, good morning? How
Speaker 1: are y'all doing great? Are you? I'm trying. Thanks for
Speaker 1: taking a call. I got a quick question on what
Speaker 1: the stave if y'all know what the status is on
Speaker 1: Landy Gregory and will he be brought back next year
Speaker 1: or will he be cut? And I'll hang up with
Speaker 1: the y'all's answered, all right, Thanks for the call. Randy
Speaker 1: can was gonna make that drop up? Who are you?
Speaker 1: How are you there? It is Randy Gregory is actually
Speaker 1: eligible to apply for reinstatement to the NFL on November
Speaker 1: the sixth. I thought you say, now that, well that's
Speaker 1: eight that's a week from now. Yeah, that's the Monday
Speaker 1: after the Chiefs game. Um. Actually, Charles Robinson of Yahoo
Speaker 1: dot com wrote a whole update about this. You can
Speaker 1: get a little more information about it if you want it. Um,
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound likely that he's gonna get reinstated, but
Speaker 1: really just I think the NFL has concerns about like
Speaker 1: his overall readiness and whether they're ready to pull the
Speaker 1: trigger on that end. Does anybody know what he's been
Speaker 1: doing during this time? Actually there's whispers. I mean, I
Speaker 1: haven't talked to him, I haven't seen him. He's not
Speaker 1: allowed at the facility. I was going to say even
Speaker 1: if he was reinstated on November six, he still isn't
Speaker 1: allowed back at the facility until January. I don't know
Speaker 1: the dates playing. He's not playing for Reinstate. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're able to come back and play no hestate.
Speaker 1: It just means he's spend he's suspended for a calendar year,
Speaker 1: which means January. Uh. Reinstatement just means once the suspension
Speaker 1: is served, like he can what's the word, work back
Speaker 1: into the structure of the team. Um. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not an expert on how all that works.
Speaker 1: But I don't get the feeling that he is going
Speaker 1: to be granted reinstatement. We'll see um again, you know.
Speaker 1: All credit to Charles Robinson because he kind of he
Speaker 1: seems like he's checked in on that. It sounds like, uh,
Speaker 1: he got a job at least for a little while,
Speaker 1: and he's kind of trying to structure his life. What
Speaker 1: it doesn't say, um just it sounds like he's putting
Speaker 1: in an effort based on that, for whatever that's worth.
Speaker 1: Um so what no job, though, he's a big guy's
Speaker 1: kind of gonna stand out pretty much anywhere where he
Speaker 1: has a job. People need people need jobs. Man, you
Speaker 1: absolutely do need a job. Here's I don't think he
Speaker 1: played for the Cowboys ever. It sounds like there are
Speaker 1: reasons to feel positive that maybe something good will come
Speaker 1: of this, but it's far too early for me to
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, like he's coming back, Like I
Speaker 1: would still bet against it. When's the last time he
Speaker 1: played a game? January of last year? January of two years?
Speaker 1: Day game? He played it? How before that? So okay,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a full totality of like how
Speaker 1: long he's how much time he's played in his career.
Speaker 1: When was the last time he's playing regularly? I should
Speaker 1: he played like the last two or three games the
Speaker 1: last season, yep, okay before and fill it. And then
Speaker 1: he was out all year and writing his rookie year fifteen,
Speaker 1: So he'll play two games out of a possible thirty
Speaker 1: right for two years. So here's that's my point. This
Speaker 1: is not to me. This is not about him being
Speaker 1: him getting to a point in his life, which I
Speaker 1: hope he gets to a point in his life where
Speaker 1: he's able to get past whatever these things are that's
Speaker 1: keeping him from football. The fact is, though, when you
Speaker 1: spend that much time away from football and not playing football.
Speaker 1: To me, it's hard to see scenarios where that turns
Speaker 1: out good for a player, Like it's it's rare, and
Speaker 1: I can't think of one off rand. I'm sure somebody
Speaker 1: has done it, but it's rare when a guy's been
Speaker 1: out that long and away from football that long, that
Speaker 1: he comes back and he becomes a productive player in
Speaker 1: the NFL. But do you even want him back? Sure
Speaker 1: he would, yeah, I mean I wouldn't. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't subscribe to that. Like, like, the big thing
Speaker 1: for me with Randy Gregory is I always got the
Speaker 1: impression that he was a good dude who his heart
Speaker 1: was in the right place, and he's got way too much.
Speaker 1: He's got a variety of issues, and I mean that
Speaker 1: stems back that there's more to it than that, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got he's got problems that he's working
Speaker 1: through and I'm not you know, to some degree, it's like,
Speaker 1: this is your job. I deal with it. I get that.
Speaker 1: But he's not a jerk, for lack of a better term,
Speaker 1: like he's he's a good dude and his heart's in
Speaker 1: the right player I don't hold this against him, and
Speaker 1: right now he's not costing the Cowboys any money or
Speaker 1: a roster spot, So there's no harm in seeing how
Speaker 1: this shakes out. And if he gets reinstated and you
Speaker 1: know it is clean and on the straight and narrow
Speaker 1: and everything, I don't have a problem with that at all.
Speaker 1: And at that point, if he burns you again, then
Speaker 1: his contracts up anyway, and then you can kind of
Speaker 1: wash your hands of it. You know, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really interesting, is if you know, there's been more and
Speaker 1: more talk here in the last year from I've heard
Speaker 1: Jerry talk about it. I've heard NBA commissioners talk about it,
Speaker 1: about the possibilities of taking marijuana off the band list
Speaker 1: in both those sports, in football and in basketball. It
Speaker 1: will be very interesting if within the next two, three,
Speaker 1: four five years for the NFL and then you have
Speaker 1: the next CBA discussions, if it becomes a situation where
Speaker 1: marijuana is no longer on the band list and guys
Speaker 1: like him, guys like the receiver that was in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: You know, there's guys that who showed some promise, and
Speaker 1: I think Gordon obviously had a lot more skins on
Speaker 1: the wall up your time he played than then did
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. But if those guys are well beyond their
Speaker 1: their times when they could have played football, and then
Speaker 1: the thing that kept them front football is no longer
Speaker 1: a problem, that's gonna feel really tough for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but it's easy to say that. But
Speaker 1: you can go back and also say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was marijuana that kept them out, you know,
Speaker 1: that was that was banned. You couldn't It wasn't Football
Speaker 1: wasn't important enough to stop it. Matt might have been
Speaker 1: your vice there, but maybe it would be something else then,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's their personalities that that's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well then I got to do another thing. You know.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's just something that prevents them from wanting to
Speaker 1: play and wanting to be great. Maybe you know, you
Speaker 1: don't know that, man. Maybe I don't know that either.
Speaker 1: So um, I think it's easy to say, oh, man,
Speaker 1: it's too bad Josh Gordon and Randy Gregory. That just
Speaker 1: change the law and now you're thirty years old and
Speaker 1: you probably can't play it. Man, that's bad. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because maybe they would never have done the things necessary
Speaker 1: to play. I mean, I kind of agree. I guess
Speaker 1: with Amber on that I don't think I would bring
Speaker 1: him back. I mean, if you bring him back, then
Speaker 1: just quit saying the stuff about the right kind of guy,
Speaker 1: because I don't think he is the right kind of guy.
Speaker 1: If you can't get yourself able to play, and if
Speaker 1: you haven't, if you have an illness, you have an illness.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you're the right type. However, if
Speaker 1: he gets himself play, if he gets himself corrected, if
Speaker 1: he if he figures out this whole thing, then why
Speaker 1: can't he become the right kind of guy? I think
Speaker 1: that's I think that's a little bit and I don't
Speaker 1: want to say judgmental, because yes, he hasn't done the
Speaker 1: right things to this point, but if he does work
Speaker 1: himself back to that point and he I mean that
Speaker 1: to me, is the right kind of guy. If you've
Speaker 1: had a problem, you've had a continuous problem, and somehow
Speaker 1: you figure out a way to rectify that problem, that's
Speaker 1: the kind of guy you want. You want a guy
Speaker 1: that can identify his own issue and say, hey, I
Speaker 1: gotta do something different and eventually make that change to
Speaker 1: do something. Yeah, but the thing about it is you
Speaker 1: watch the baseball game last night. You don't get six
Speaker 1: strikes before you get three and then you're out. I
Speaker 1: mean that's like, this is one of those things where
Speaker 1: to be suspended for a year means I believe you
Speaker 1: have to fail six drug tests, right, But he doesn't.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that he deserves this opportunity. I'm
Speaker 1: saying if you happen to give it to him, like
Speaker 1: David saying, it doesn't cost you anything, you want to
Speaker 1: take a look and it turns out that he actually
Speaker 1: has some skill and can play, why not? You know?
Speaker 1: And here the other thing is, again he's a sunk
Speaker 1: cost at this point, you know, like you're not looking
Speaker 1: at him as the cornerstone guy that you drafted him
Speaker 1: to be. At this point, it's just gravy. Like I said,
Speaker 1: he's not hurting you to have right now, and if
Speaker 1: you want to bring him back, it's like you already
Speaker 1: lost him, you know what I mean. And now, I mean,
Speaker 1: if he can get right and whatever, that's great, but
Speaker 1: it's not like you're looking at him with like hope
Speaker 1: and optimism that he's going to carry your pass. Rush's
Speaker 1: just like, well, yeah, nobody's gonna care if we have
Speaker 1: to cut this guy, and maybe he'll grow in something.
Speaker 1: And I've always thought right kind of guy was bowl Anyway.
Speaker 1: I think it's really all about how well you play football,
Speaker 1: and if he can help your pass rush, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Um well he's he's had a few chances. Sure, still
Speaker 1: messing up, messing up? I see it. Like the team,
Speaker 1: they have plenty of players to deal with. Do you
Speaker 1: want to keep dealing with someone that gives you issues?
Speaker 1: Like you have too many guys that you're taken care of,
Speaker 1: and it's like an ex one of your exes keep
Speaker 1: doing the same crap over and over. You get rid
Speaker 1: of them. Do you want to bring him back around? No,
Speaker 1: you're done, You're moving on. Okay, bye, good to know you.
Speaker 1: Let's see you bye next you move on. Got a
Speaker 1: good point, that's not that's that's not a bad point
Speaker 1: at all. Analogy I whatever, I'd still do it. You're
Speaker 1: a glinn for punishment. I mean I am as once
Speaker 1: I've invested time in you, I just feel like I
Speaker 1: got to get something back. Self loathing is a big
Speaker 1: part of my whole stick, So I'm fine with that's
Speaker 1: your aura? Like, just what you do. That's really a
Speaker 1: bad Why it is, it's not, it's not I like,
Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, I thought it's perfect. Well just
Speaker 1: to okay, what say well, I mean like you've been
Speaker 1: bashful to say what you want to say in the past. No,
Speaker 1: but I just mean, okay, So I just don't think
Speaker 1: it's a great comparison. You're saying that, Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Well you'll be fine, you can move on. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: been looking for a pass rush sure, since the Marcus
Speaker 1: weare for like the last like six or seven years now,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to find a I mean, so it's
Speaker 1: harder to just say, well, just move on. You really
Speaker 1: want to deal with him. They do need him that
Speaker 1: they need a player like him. But that goes back
Speaker 1: to the point I made. If he set out this long,
Speaker 1: what's the likelihood that he's going to be that player?
Speaker 1: So you're not really getting the player you thought maybe
Speaker 1: you could get when you drafted him in the second round.
Speaker 1: Like that, that's gone like days, that's a sunk cost.
Speaker 1: At this point, you're not getting that guy. I don't
Speaker 1: think now. If he does, it'll be against all of
Speaker 1: what's happened to this point with guys that have been
Speaker 1: out that long. But you know, hey, all I'm saying
Speaker 1: is is the Cowboys have showed desperation to get a
Speaker 1: defensive end. They were desperate in the draft to trade
Speaker 1: a two and a three to move up to get
Speaker 1: de Marcus Lawrence. They were desperate to get a guy
Speaker 1: that no one in the league would touch or will
Speaker 1: has touched since, and that's in Greg Hardy. They were
Speaker 1: desperate to get a guy that no one was touching
Speaker 1: in the draft and Randy Gregory. So they've been desperate.
Speaker 1: And so that's why I think for you to say
Speaker 1: say it like that, like move on, Yeah, okay, but
Speaker 1: you said it yourself earlier, you said you wouldn't want
Speaker 1: him back. I mean, he gets to a point that
Speaker 1: you right, I got that they need that, they need
Speaker 1: that pass rush, but at what costs, Like do you
Speaker 1: want to deal with I don't know. I wouldn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't bring him back either,
Speaker 1: But I'd say that comparison seems different for you to
Speaker 1: say move on from an actually just find someone else.
Speaker 1: When the Cowboys have been trying, they've been scraping the
Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel really to try to find that Hell,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I didn't think any of us
Speaker 1: planned on spending fifteen minutes on Randy Gregory. But bottom
Speaker 1: line is, I would say there's there. I would bet
Speaker 1: against him playing a significant role for the Cowboys at
Speaker 1: any point going forward. But keep your ear to the
Speaker 1: ground on that, because I feel like there's at least
Speaker 1: some rumbling of optimism that something could be there. And
Speaker 1: the one thing that we do know about this organization
Speaker 1: and particularly Jerry, is that when it comes to players
Speaker 1: that have had issues, if there's an opportunity to bring
Speaker 1: them back into the full, Jerry will look for that
Speaker 1: opportunity to bring them back in the fold that's been
Speaker 1: something that's been a repeated thing, and get him a job,
Speaker 1: no matter how many issues the guy has had, him
Speaker 1: a job doing something, even yeah, I mean playing There
Speaker 1: are number of guys in this building, whether they're playing
Speaker 1: football or whether they're working just in the building, who
Speaker 1: have had a lot of issues, not just one like
Speaker 1: you said, Nick, they're the six strike guys that have
Speaker 1: that have jobs in this building. So whether they bring
Speaker 1: him back and they try him out to see if
Speaker 1: he can play anymore and ultimately can't or whether they
Speaker 1: think they can get something out of him. History suggests
Speaker 1: that in some respects, if he can get his life together,
Speaker 1: there will the door will be open here for him
Speaker 1: to be able to be a part of this organization. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's such a head scratcher because he's one of
Speaker 1: the the smarter guys in there. He's more intelligent guys.
Speaker 1: And you just wouldn't think han a guy that's that's
Speaker 1: that's smart, that intelligent, that either he's making bad decisions
Speaker 1: or you just can't help himself, because I know that
Speaker 1: that is considered an illness and no's all And there's
Speaker 1: there's some good guys in this building who have had
Speaker 1: similar types of issues. And I think about the documentary
Speaker 1: you guys did on leon Lett and some of the
Speaker 1: issues he had around drugs. And he's a good guy
Speaker 1: and he's doing a great job at the job that
Speaker 1: he's given at this point in his life. He had
Speaker 1: to work past those things. And Nate Newton's another Nate
Speaker 1: works on our staff. And Nate had to work through
Speaker 1: some things that he got himself into. He'll tell you
Speaker 1: he got himself into those situations, but he got past
Speaker 1: it and now he's on a productive path. So I
Speaker 1: just don't like the idea of throwing guys away. And
Speaker 1: I think i'm agreeing with you, Dave, that I give
Speaker 1: him a chance and let's just see, right if he doesn't,
Speaker 1: if he's not ready to play, find a job for
Speaker 1: him here if you want to do that, or just
Speaker 1: say goodbye. But either way, I think he you know,
Speaker 1: you can give it a shot and just see what happens.
Speaker 1: We're thinking of your Randy. We will see, all right, guys,
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us back tomorrow. We'll get you guys
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Speaker 1: little seat or no tomorrow during the show. Till then
Speaker 1: for Nick even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton.
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