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Speaker 1: All right, here we go with a week ten prime

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Speaker 1: time edition of Between the Horns, presented about your southern

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Speaker 1: California Toyota dealers. I'm JB Long, joined by a couple

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Speaker 1: of Instagram fitness influencers, Stu Jackson and Maurice Jones Drew,

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Speaker 1: both throwing it around.

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Speaker 2: Alright, I just got to fifty k to fifty k

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: What your followers? Yeah, blowing up because of that incline

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Speaker 1: bench flex on them. Do you see Stu's post this morning?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: What times?

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Speaker 3: Do?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Six? So six?

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Speaker 1: Gotcha? Six oh six dead lifts?

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Speaker 2: What I gotta go, surprise, Let me go get, let

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Speaker 2: me go, get in the gym. I'm tripping fresh off

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Speaker 2: of flight right now.

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Speaker 1: We begin this episode by saying happy birthday to Marissa Daily,

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Speaker 1: the VP and GM of RAMS Studios. All she asked

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Speaker 1: for was a three game winning street to get back

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Speaker 1: to five hundred. So happy birthday, Marissa.

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Speaker 4: There it is.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what the Rams can do to build from here.

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Speaker 2: I love that Happy birthday, and that might be the

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Speaker 2: best gift that you've probably got in all year.

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Speaker 1: Well, now, I think she wants a Monday night football victory,

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Speaker 1: so let's see what the Rams can do to deliver

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Speaker 1: in prime time against the Miami Dolphins. But first your

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Speaker 1: reflections on the win that was a defensive driven performance

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Speaker 1: and overtime walk off thriller in Seattle.

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Speaker 4: I think for me it was just like you mentioned,

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Speaker 4: you know, defense driven fourth straight game that the defense

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Speaker 4: that they were able to make, really the plays that

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Speaker 4: were made by the pressure that was brought and created.

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Speaker 4: That's something that's been consistently showing up really over the

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Speaker 4: last three weeks. Now you're starting to see it translate

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Speaker 4: not only into scoring opportunities for the defense, but even

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Speaker 4: from a complimentary standpoint, the offense is starting to take advantage.

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Speaker 4: Obviously we saw that even just with the fourth down

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Speaker 2: Well, what I thought was the improvement that you saw

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Speaker 2: from week one till last week right to week nine

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Speaker 2: being over time. In week one, Lions run right down

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Speaker 2: they test your run defense, and you go out and

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Speaker 2: you stop one of the top backs in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and Kenneth Walker on fourth and one. You probably knock

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Speaker 2: to see that the offense kind of mature throughout the course.

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Speaker 2: Right, it was the defensive battle early on, and I

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Speaker 2: But to keep working through those things and then figuring

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Speaker 1: Scruws, louse. You guys got to help me. What's wrong

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Speaker 1: that win, really than when we left Seattle. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: I would say, you gotta think Seattle had lost what

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Speaker 1: Three in a row at home. Now, yeah, three in

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Speaker 2: Home, So you lost three in a row at home,

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Speaker 2: and this was like, gotta have it for them, right.

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Speaker 2: They were out there selling out, dudes were doing everything,

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Speaker 3: And you're able to withstand.

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Speaker 2: Now, on the other side, the defense has dominated that

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things for me. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: No, that that wasn't the best.

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Speaker 2: But I think offensively, for me, it was that defense

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Speaker 2: because he's under he's under a lot of pressure right now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know the Seahawks self inflicted mistakes though, and

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Speaker 2: This game should have been over the third quarter. If

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Speaker 1: But I think the Seahawks feel that way too. I

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Speaker 3: Have blown them out, No question, I agree.

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Speaker 1: And the Seahawks if they make a different fourth down

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes you rather be lucky than good, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I need this show for you guys

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Speaker 1: to get me right before Monday night football. And don't

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Speaker 1: it's times due for this offense to get on a

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I don't think you can have the sloppiness that

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Speaker 2: Always, well, I thought Sean said it best atink in

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Speaker 1: Can cover that you Almo's put him on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was unbelievable. And then to walk off do

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Speaker 2: Treg Willen is one of the best cover guys in

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Speaker 1: It just feels like now's the time. This is the

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Speaker 1: The front line guys, especially the offensive guys, got to

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Speaker 4: Well, we were talking about Jackson Smith and Jigba earlier

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Speaker 1: My list was tamping out explosives, clean up the screen game.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's it's hard. You just have

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Speaker 1: They've generated less rushing yards than expected. An almost seventy

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Speaker 3: Right, all right?

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Speaker 3: Yes, please, let's get positive.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is something that you studied too

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you look at just what they were able

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 2: look at how they've schemed this roster up, how they've

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Speaker 2: have an opportunistic defense on an explosive defense, you're going

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Speaker 3: That's tough to do.

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Speaker 2: But I will take scoring or getting takeaways, which we

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Speaker 2: They're all going after the ball, stripping at it, but

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Speaker 2: That's a defense that's turnover aware. They want to get

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Speaker 3: And so to me, you have to.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's when the Rams go

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Speaker 1: Their pressures, their sacks, their takeaways have been featured in

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Speaker 3: You got to try to win quickly. And then on

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Speaker 2: And that's what they do. Like, look the Dolphins. I

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Speaker 4: improving the team and where you want to get better

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Speaker 4: in certain areas like that's where you're going to have

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Speaker 4: those additions or acquisitions. Just with the way the roster

443
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Speaker 4: is set up, and I'm sure with you know, cap

444
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Speaker 4: constraints and things like that you're currently operating under. You're

445
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Speaker 4: just waiting for guys to get health at this point,

446
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Speaker 4: and then once they get healthy, that's when you can

447
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Speaker 4: truly be you know, this team can truly be the

448
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Speaker 4: best version of itself, kind of like what we talked

449
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Speaker 4: about with you know, the offensive line getting healthier earlier

450
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Speaker 4: and how much closer that's going to look to the

451
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Speaker 4: unit that we saw, you know, throughout training camp and

452
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Speaker 4: at the beginning of the season. You know, that's kind

453
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Speaker 4: of similar to how I feel with just staying pad

454
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Speaker 4: at the trade deadline and not necessarily making any moves

455
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Speaker 4: or bringing anybody in.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that offensive line and how

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Speaker 1: it might look Monday night in just a second. But

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Speaker 1: because I started this week by saying, am I ever

459
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Speaker 1: glad the Rams traded that second round pick to make

460
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Speaker 1: sure that Braden Fisk is in LA for the next

461
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Speaker 1: four years? Like that looks like a really good decision

462
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Speaker 1: right now, and I wouldn't change it for the world.

463
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Speaker 1: But knowing you don't have a second coming up in

464
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Speaker 1: April probably makes you a little reticent to get active

465
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Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. You don't want to give up

466
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Speaker 1: necessarily a first and then have to wait until day

467
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Speaker 1: three or day two to make a pick round three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say this.

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Speaker 2: You know the Rams always they're in the now right

470
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Speaker 2: where a lot of teams there were teams selling. I

471
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Speaker 2: think there were teams obviously buying that are trying to

472
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Speaker 2: live in the now like the Commanders, And I think

473
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Speaker 2: still hit it right on the head where you had

474
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Speaker 2: so many guys out, I mean, I mean you just

475
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Speaker 2: called the second second. Was it the second game of

476
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Speaker 2: the season. I think it was Rob Havenstein was the

477
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Speaker 2: only starter that was out there, Like, so you had

478
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Speaker 2: so many guys out in that situation, it was kind

479
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Speaker 2: of like, all right, but they're in the now. And

480
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Speaker 2: what I mean by the now is they went out

481
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Speaker 2: and made a move last year to get a guy

482
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Speaker 2: that they believe can impact this this roster. Today he's

483
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Speaker 2: doing that And I don't think there was a guy

484
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Speaker 2: that they could have went and got for a third rounder. Right,

485
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Speaker 2: maybe you could have win and got Marshawn Lattimore if

486
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Speaker 2: you wanted to, Like maybe, right, but are you willing

487
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Speaker 2: to give up a Day three pick when you literally

488
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Speaker 2: have young guys over here, undrafted guys playing exceptionally well,

489
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Speaker 2: Like no, like it kind of is what it is.

490
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Speaker 2: Are you going to give to go get a passers?

491
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Speaker 2: Are you willing to give up you know, multiple picks?

492
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Speaker 2: I think the Rams are kind of out of the

493
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Speaker 2: f M picks error and then to more are like

494
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Speaker 2: we're going to build young and and develop.

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Speaker 1: All right, So if their acquisitions at the trade deadline

496
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Speaker 1: are Joe Opum, Jonah Jackson, Steve Avula, how close are

497
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Speaker 1: those individuals stood a plane knowing that Rob Havenstein will

498
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Speaker 1: not go at right tackle against Miami.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Sean McVay said this week that Jonah's expected

500
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Speaker 4: to be ready to go, so that's a good sign.

501
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Speaker 4: And then Steve, they're going to monitor him throughout the

502
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Speaker 4: week before making a determination. But there is still a

503
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Speaker 4: possibility that Steve could also play. So Jonah for sure,

504
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Speaker 4: and then we'll see what happens with Steve. But you know, Maurice,

505
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Speaker 4: you and I were talking about this earlier. I mean

506
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Speaker 4: that presents a really fascinating problem the blessing you were

507
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Speaker 4: talking about earlier, as far as you know, what does

508
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Speaker 4: that picture look like now for the offensive line, depending

509
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Speaker 4: on who all you have available?

510
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Speaker 3: I mean, how would you line it up?

511
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Speaker 1: Like, let's say, best case scenario, everyone except Rob is is.

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Speaker 3: Up, Joe's at right tackle.

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Speaker 2: Then I would go back to my starting is Steve

514
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Speaker 2: Avole at center and Jonah Jackson had left guard, and.

515
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Speaker 3: We'll go over there.

516
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Speaker 2: As much as I would love to keep both Limmer

517
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Speaker 2: out there, who's done an awesome job, I think that's

518
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Speaker 2: your question mark, Like do you keep him out there

519
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Speaker 2: and you keep those guys around him, or do you

520
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Speaker 2: put the guys in from training camp and you let

521
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Speaker 2: those guys go to work.

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Speaker 1: What an awesome problem to have, right, Like, if your

523
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Speaker 1: backups on Monday are Joe Noteboom Bow, Limmer, and Justin Dietitsch,

524
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Speaker 1: guys who have all had good starting experience. Now, I

525
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Speaker 1: think that's a great place to be.

526
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Speaker 2: Oh, dude, Champagne problems to have offensive linemen that have

527
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Speaker 2: had over, you know, hundreds of snaps. Yeah, starting to

528
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Speaker 2: be sitting on the bench just in case, Like you're

529
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Speaker 2: comfortable if something were to happen to put a guy in,

530
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Speaker 2: you may even throw an extra guy out there. Sure, Like, Hey,

531
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Speaker 2: let's go six linemen in this situation, like we've seen

532
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Speaker 2: the Rams do in the past.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to run gay that one because you paid

534
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Speaker 1: them too, because they are who you set out to

535
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Speaker 1: have in the middle. I think the first available big

536
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Speaker 1: body goes back in. It looks like that's gonna be Jonah, Right,

537
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Speaker 1: you said, Stu. I think you probably put him right

538
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Speaker 1: back in at center, because that's the decision you made

539
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Speaker 1: at the end of the summer that that's the best configuration.

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Speaker 1: And Bo's played great. I think he's given you good

541
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Speaker 1: physical elements, but it seems like the piece that they

542
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Speaker 1: haven't yet touted. Is just like total situational mastery on

543
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Speaker 1: your p's and q's with your pass pro There have

544
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Speaker 1: been some breakdowns there, and I'm not sure that's his

545
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Speaker 1: problem necessarily, but I would give Stafford all the mental

546
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Speaker 1: breaks you can by putting your best center back in

547
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Speaker 1: as soon as possible.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, you.

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Speaker 1: Do, Okay, Yeah, and then Nopum's he's a great reliever.

550
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not how you designed it to be

551
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Speaker 1: based on what you signed him for this contract, But

552
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Speaker 1: I love Joe Nopum backing up multiple positions, and I'm

553
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Speaker 1: not sure I would mess with that. You think Warre

554
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Speaker 1: mc clennon was good enough coming off the bench in

555
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Speaker 1: Seattle to warn another start potentially.

556
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Speaker 4: I mean I think so, but that's just based on

557
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Speaker 4: what I've seen as far as just practices games. Right

558
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Speaker 4: tackle to me is where he looks most comfortable. Okay,

559
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Speaker 4: you know he has gotten reps with other positions too,

560
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Speaker 4: But ultimately, I think the what you're weighing if the

561
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Speaker 4: RAMS coaching staff is do you do you like the

562
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 4: upside with Warren Moore and do you feel more comfortable

563
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Speaker 4: with that based on what you've seen from him recently

564
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Speaker 4: or if you're going for continuity and experience, you know,

565
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Speaker 4: do you do you want that which you have in

566
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Speaker 4: Joe No Boom out there to give more comfort for

567
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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford? Well?

568
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Speaker 2: Also, I believe who you're playing too, right, Like, is

569
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Speaker 2: he really good against explosive passers like Trop Robinson?

570
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Speaker 3: Is that is that?

571
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Speaker 2: We saw him play left tackle in Arizona, which was

572
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Speaker 2: a fish out of water kind of thing, but he

573
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Speaker 2: was he He got beat three ways in that game. Right,

574
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Speaker 2: So you have two explosive guys coming off. You got

575
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Speaker 2: guy that Dolphins have some guys that can rush, so

576
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Speaker 2: you just got to kind of see how you do it,

577
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Speaker 2: or do you have is he going against Ogba who's

578
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Speaker 2: more of a physical guy, and if you like that matchup,

579
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Speaker 2: do you put him there?

580
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Speaker 3: Like?

581
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Speaker 2: And I think that's where the Rams have to decide.

582
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Speaker 2: Do you like No Boom at right tackle? You're going

583
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Speaker 2: to put him at guard? And if you are going

584
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Speaker 2: to put him a guard, do you like that matchup

585
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Speaker 2: with this guy?

586
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

587
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Speaker 1: And how do you want to beat that?

588
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 3: Yeah? How do you want to beat that?

589
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: Fits into that game plan exactly? Or maybe it's just

590
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Speaker 1: the luxury of you know what, we can give Steve

591
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: six more days and maybe that's the most important thing

592
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: for his health in his twenty twenty four is that

593
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Speaker 1: we don't have to play him on Monday night if

594
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Speaker 1: he's not quite ready. I don't know if he has

595
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Speaker 1: or reason. I'm just saying those are the built in

596
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Speaker 1: luxuries that you've afforded yourself. And I will say this too,

597
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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, I think has done a masterful job protecting himself.

598
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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's not like there haven't been free rushers coming at

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. It's not like he hasn't been under duress,

601
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Speaker 1: but he's been sacked what once since the bye and

602
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Speaker 1: that was Max Crosby. M hm Is that right? I

603
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Speaker 1: mean he's dirting it when he needs to, he's playing quick,

604
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Speaker 1: he's throwing the incompletions he needs to to just survive

605
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Speaker 1: to face another down.

606
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Speaker 3: He took a nasty hit in Seattle.

607
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Speaker 1: But I think, oh, he was just trying to get

608
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Speaker 1: the roughing, That's.

609
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Speaker 3: What I said.

610
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Speaker 2: I think you were talking more like he you know,

611
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Speaker 2: he has some acting classes. He's been in La found

612
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Speaker 2: a way to you know, sell a little bit.

613
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Speaker 1: But it was it was great to see a flag

614
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Speaker 1: in the pocket, finally officially protecting Matthew Stafford. Wasn't it

615
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Speaker 1: all right? Can we take a lap around the NFC West,

616
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Speaker 1: because I think this is a fascinating time to look

617
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Speaker 1: at the division with the Cardinals on top at five

618
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Speaker 1: and four, Rams and Niners tied at four and four,

619
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Speaker 1: with LA having the head to head, and then the

620
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Speaker 1: Seahawks on there by bringing up the rear at four

621
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Speaker 1: and five. I would make the case that there are

622
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Speaker 1: the two most important games of the season for the

623
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Speaker 1: Rams playoff chances being played on Sunday while the Rams

624
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Speaker 1: are preparing for Monday Night football. Damn crazy. The team's

625
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: directly behind them in the standings. San Francisco going to

626
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Oh, so the Bucks have lost three in

627
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Speaker 1: a row. They're going into their by first all, let

628
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Speaker 1: me ask why did they not go for two at Arrowhead?

629
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Speaker 2: So I had a coach texting that literally right when

630
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Speaker 2: that happened, like, why didn't you go for two?

631
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Speaker 3: Coaches? And it's older coaches go by older rules, right.

632
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Speaker 1: I thought the old rule was go go for the

633
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Speaker 1: win if you're on the road.

634
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Speaker 2: Now, if you're a defensive coach, oh, you believe in

635
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Speaker 2: your defense. And that's Todd Bowles. He's always been that way.

636
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Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. It's good for the

637
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: Rams that they lost that game, no question, but that

638
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Speaker 1: was a you're gonna get Patrick Mahomes a chance on

639
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: his home field and overtime. Okay, Anyways, Kyle Shanahan gets

640
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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey back, and they have been a buzzsaw after

641
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: the bye in recent years sixteen and two since twenty

642
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: twenty two after their bye, look out nervous.

643
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Speaker 3: McCaffrey looks really good. I was.

644
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in I live in the Bay Are,

645
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: so that's always what's on the news about what's going

646
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: on with them, and watching some of their practice clips

647
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: and him bouncing around and he wasn't moving like that

648
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: like a month ago.

649
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: He was.

650
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: He was in some pain. So to see him bouncing

651
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: around and they still have some issues up their offensive

652
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: that they have to deal with, but having him back

653
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: cures a lot of their their their they're woes.

654
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: But for Baker, it's now or never. I mean, you

655
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: can't go into your by losing four in a row.

656
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: But you can, I really feel like you can. He

657
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 3: doesn't have anybody, man.

658
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: I think Atlanta's good enough in that division now, and

659
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: there's so much competition on the NFC bubble. I think

660
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: this is a must win for Tampa Bay.

661
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: I just don't know how they win with no like

662
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: you don't have Mike Evans, he really is out there with.

663
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: Or Chris Godwin.

664
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying, go the Bucks are

665
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna go do it. I'm just saying if not, yeah,

666
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: they might be done. They may be done. Get to

667
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: the Cardinals next. They traded for a pass rusher Bearing

668
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: Browning from the Broncos. They've won three in a row

669
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: and they have one more game before they're by and

670
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: against Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

671
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

672
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: So you you said this before, like Arizona kind of

673
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: I think you said you were worried about them, or

674
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: they're a year away.

675
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying I've been saying since the spring. That's

676
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: the problem.

677
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: That's that's what you were saying. Yeah it was last year.

678
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: We're saying like they're a year away.

679
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they're here now, they're here, and it's it's

680
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: because they're willing to go thirteen personnel and get money

681
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: with you it's literally what it is. They're willing to

682
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: get money and then break out in other things and

683
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: throw the ball. But the fact that they're they'll go

684
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: thirteen personnel and they'll run James Connor down the middle

685
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: is like unbelievable. And then the Bear they just beat

686
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: the Bears up, like they just beat them up physically.

687
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: You got to get this one from the Jets, That's

688
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you could look back and this

689
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: could be a tipping point game for the Rams in

690
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: their playoff chances, whether or not Aaron Rodgers is truly

691
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: back from the darkness with this roster they turn it around.

692
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the with every team being a half

693
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 4: within a half game of each other, right, I mean,

694
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: and especially with the Niners getting healthier and what the Seahawks.

695
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: How competitive The Seahawks made this game this past Sunday,

696
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: And like we've mentioned, with what Arizona's doing, I mean,

697
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: the Margins are getting much much thinner from a air standpoint,

698
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: a mistake standpoint, the rest of the season.

699
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: As for Seattle, I want to follow up on the

700
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: point you made last week, which is, if you have

701
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: a chance to throw dirt on arrival, you better do it,

702
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: and the Rams did, and now Seattle's lost five of

703
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 1: the last six. They go into the buy and then

704
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: they go at the forty nine ers home to Arizona,

705
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: coming out of their by at the Jets at Arizona

706
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: home to Green Bay, home to Minnesota. The Seahawks might

707
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: be done. That's a rough might be done.

708
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: That's a rough run.

709
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: In fact, the Rams might be rooting for Seattle as

710
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: kind of like a spoiler, like beat our competition between

711
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: now and week eighteen when they come to so far.

712
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 4: Well, and is that the Cardinals too, that have the

713
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: bulk of their NFC North slate still to come to.

714
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everybody still got some out there. But

715
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: Arizona is definitely playing a fourth place schedule, which is

716
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: part of the reason why they're dangerous. And I think

717
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: this is a high, high leverage game against the Jets.

718
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: The easiest path to me to the playoffs is winning

719
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: the division, being better than those other three, and that's

720
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: why we spend some time on it here. But I

721
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: will say the NFC playoff bubble is thinning out like

722
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: working from the bottom up. Tell me if you agree.

723
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: The two and seven teams are out out right Giants, Saints, Panthers,

724
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: they have any oxygen left?

725
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: Saints possibly with the firing of your coach. Possibly, But

726
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be more of a spoiler. Yeah,

727
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: those are knocking teams down for you. As you're going,

728
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: like they play Atlanta this weekend, that may be okay,

729
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: team they get.

730
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Like a dead bounce kunt of deal. Yeah, how about

731
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: these teams falling out? The three and five Cowboys without

732
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: Dak and the Seahawks team.

733
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Speaker 3: We just mentioned.

734
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would say the Cowboys especially. I mean

735
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: they're still trying to figure out if they're going to

736
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: put Dak on ir because of that hamstring injury he

737
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 4: suffered last week. But if that ends up being the

738
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: case where he shelved for a minimum of four weeks,

739
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: that obviously makes things very very challenging for them.

740
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: Seattle's funny to me because if they get DK back

741
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like they can be dangerous. I

742
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: felt like not having him really expose some different things

743
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: for Gino, not being able to have a guy he

744
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: gets to get the ball out too quick. But Tyler

745
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: Lockett still making plays. Obviously JSN had a big day.

746
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: But if you get DK back now he has a

747
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: guy that he can get the ball to. You get

748
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: some of those linemenback for him, you may have a chance.

749
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: I guess that was the point I was making, is

750
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: it's win win. If they get dangerous, good for them,

751
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: because they're going to start stacking l's on your division

752
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: rivals and those teams from the north right, and you

753
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: already have the head to head against them and a

754
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: big swing Week eighteen at home at SOFI Stadium against

755
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. So if we cross out the Cowboys and Seahawks,

756
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree. You're basically

757
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: looking at eleven teams for seven spots, and one of

758
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: those teams right now ahead of the Rams is a

759
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears unit that is in a world of hurt.

760
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: And they better smoke New England at home this week

761
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: because look at their remaining schedule, Packers, Vikings at Detroit,

762
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: at San Francisco at Minnesota, Detroit, Seattle at green Bay.

763
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's east stick of for him.

764
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: Then, okay, you can wipe them off this. They have

765
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: a lot of turmoil, but yeah, it's going down. That

766
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: hail Mary like is gonna affect him for the next month.

767
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: That's lingering. Yeah, okay, all right, back to the Dolphins.

768
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: I cannot get a read on this team. I'm confused,

769
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: are they do? Are they done? What are they What

770
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: are the Miami Dolphins at two and six.

771
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: I think they're still trying to find their way and

772
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: get back into a rhythm, especially offensively. I mean, like

773
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: Maurice mentioned earlier, you know, putting up twenty seven points

774
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 4: against the Bills in Buffalo was the closest I think

775
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 4: we've seen this offense look to, you know, what We've

776
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: been accustomed to it looking like with Tua manning the offense,

777
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: but it looks so different when he wasn't out there.

778
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 4: I mean, they just straight up could not run that offense,

779
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: no matter which backup they tried, no matter who they

780
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: signed off the practice squad, it just was not the same.

781
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: And so, you know, maybe with their performance last week

782
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: there they'll be closer to, you know, the team that

783
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: everybody was expecting and that everybody saw earlier in the season,

784
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: but certainly still having still having some struggles and I

785
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: think trying to find their way here.

786
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime your quarterbacks out for what like six weeks

787
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: or whatever it might have been that's always gonna be tough.

788
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: The thing is when he came back, like you have

789
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: to hear how the players talk, right, all the receivers

790
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: are like, thank god we're back right, Yeah, like like

791
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 2: we can go now where we're good. Put me in fantasy.

792
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: As Tyreek said, he can play me now. Yeah, I

793
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: told you, guys have been to me. You can play

794
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: me now. Which is scary because now if they get

795
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: a passing game going, you still have most or you

796
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: have hn who can run the ball, and these are

797
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: like they got a track team, right, everybody's four to

798
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: or faster. Waddle is making plays and our old fan

799
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: Obj is still there, right, Odell's there who can show up?

800
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: So they have weapons as they think. I think it's

801
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: the same thing as the Rams. The Rams got Cooper,

802
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Cup and Pook and the kulback. You saw the offense

803
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: open up, right, and then you saw the offense kind

804
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: of sputter a little bit. The question is do the

805
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: Dolphins sputter this week or do they keep getting better

806
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: as they go.

807
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: That's a tough part what Miami team is going to

808
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: show up because the second week in a row, you're

809
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: playing a desperate opponent. Desperate like, they can't go to

810
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: two and seven then it's lights out. But if they win,

811
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 1: then they get I think the Raiders and the Patriots next.

812
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: They can go from two and six to five and

813
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: six and right there and no time. No time.

814
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's but I think that's great for

815
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: the Rams though, because when you play a desperate team,

816
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: you see everything, which is what the playoffs. That's what

817
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs would come, right, So you're getting playoff caliber

818
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: games in the middle of the season.

819
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: I think that's why, though, this is the moment where

820
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: the Rams offense needs to arrive, needs to show up

821
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: because you very well may need to score thirty or

822
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: more points to win this game. Does it have that

823
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: feel to you?

824
00:34:53,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just feel like I have to say this.

825
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: Do the Rams.

826
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: Said like they're playing the same defense they played with

827
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald with the corners are always.

828
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: Off, backed off, playing soft coverage.

829
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: This isn't the game to do that. This is the

830
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: game where you tighten the coverage up a little bit

831
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: on the outside, you force you put your hands on

832
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: those smaller guys as they're running around. You try to

833
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: reroute them just to slow them up, and you carry

834
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: with them to.

835
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Is lethal over the top, though downfield he is. He's accurate.

836
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: Oh he's very accurate, but he lets that ball go early.

837
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: It's not like he's he has a Josh Allen Bazooka

838
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: arm where he could throw it late and I think

839
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: it's going to be up in the air before. So

840
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: you got a chance to go get if you have

841
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: a guy back then as willing to go get it.

842
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: Look, I think there are two most recent losses are

843
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: actually their biggest claim to fame. Right They've had walk

844
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: off field goal losses the last two weeks against division

845
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: leaders in Arizona and Buffalo playoff teams if the season

846
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: were to end right now, I think that's more indicative

847
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: of who they are Stu than whatever existed before.

848
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 4: Well, in that walk off or the game winning field

849
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: goal that the Bills had last week, that was I

850
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: mean it was a sixty one yarder, but that was

851
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: set up because of a penalty, So I mean that

852
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 4: to me, that they were a penalty away from potentially

853
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: winning that game to me, so you know, they could

854
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: they could just as easily be going into this this

855
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: Monday night football matchup three and four.

856
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: So we kind of talked about the confusion in terms

857
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: of what are they on offense? How about on defense?

858
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Because they profile as a bad defensive team and I

859
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: know they're getting healthy on that side of the ball,

860
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: so it could look different this week. But I see

861
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: strength against strength in terms of the one thing they

862
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: can do is take away opposing receivers and that's clearly

863
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: where the Rams operate, That's where they live.

864
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's it's Jalen Ramsey versus Cooper Cup or

865
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: Pooka Nakua. Like they're gonna put their best guys on

866
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: your guys, and you're gonna have to hear Jalen talk.

867
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: He's gonna say he knows all your stuff. Like you're

868
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: gonna have to be able to manipulate him. But when

869
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: you watch the Arizona Cardinal they played him, Marvin Harrison

870
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: Junior had a day.

871
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: He was all over Jalen.

872
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: Right, And so I'm not saying that we have him

873
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: that stylar or cer on our team, but that to

874
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: show you that Jalen he'll give it, he'll give up

875
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 2: some and so you have to be able to take

876
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Speaker 2: your shots and your chances at him.

877
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Speaker 1: This is where I come back to the tight end position,

878
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: because when I see what those two teams did, the

879
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals and the Bills who led them in targets. Trey

880
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: McBride eleven targets, nine catches, Dalton kincaid ten targets, only

881
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: four catches. But like, what are opposing offensive coordinators doing

882
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: against this Miami defense using that tight end room?

883
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't think their off ball linebackers

884
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: aren't aren't the best.

885
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: They're there. Look, you said it best.

886
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: Their corners, their safeties, that's where they spent their money,

887
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: and their pass rushers, right, that's what they spent their money.

888
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: Their off bill backers don't cover that well. And then really,

889
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: if you go back to that Cardinals game, McBride, he

890
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: beat one of their safeties I forget the name and

891
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: the number, but on a corner route that was wide open,

892
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: like on a fourth down they got to have it.

893
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: At the end of the game.

894
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: He ran a nasty corner round, which is by itself right,

895
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: and so there's opportunities there for you to do it.

896
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: I think I think is that going to be DeMarcus

897
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: Robinson or is that going to be another receiver to

898
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Speaker 2: to at?

899
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: Well? Are you going to trust the tiding position to

900
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: go out there and make that play.

901
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: Or is this the night that you put one of

902
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: those like sledgehammer games like we've seen McVeigh do against

903
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots in years past at Sofi Stadium

904
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars, where it is a Kyron Williams,

905
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: Blake korham Knight start to finish. Yeah, and you slow

906
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: down the Dolphins offense by keeping them on the sideline.

907
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: I will say, especially if Jonah's back and with what

908
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: he can do in the run game or what you

909
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: expect him to do in the run game, this would

910
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: be as good of a game as any did to

911
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 4: test that out.

912
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's finish this edition between the Horns as

913
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Speaker 1: we always do with our keys to victory. Who wants it?

914
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: I'll go with capping explosive pass plays. I know, that's

915
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: what I mentioned already with one of the things that

916
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 4: need to improve the most, you know, over the second

917
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 4: half of the season. But you know we've talked about

918
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell and just how lethal that

919
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 4: passing game is so much. Really it starts with I mean,

920
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: they've got speed all over at this skill positions, at

921
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: running back as well. But really, to me, if you're

922
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: going to win this game, you need to not get

923
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: beat over the top by either of those guys and

924
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: and really mitigate the impact their speed can have as

925
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: far as the damage that they can do against the

926
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Speaker 4: posting secondaries.

927
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: Dominate the line of scrimmage.

928
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: I think if you're the doll, if you're the d line,

929
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: you have to force uh to a tongue I low

930
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: to be one dimension. You can't allow him to have

931
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: a running game because the playoction pass where they get

932
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: you every time, right, and it's different versions of their

933
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: play action pass.

934
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: They'll boot, they'll drop back.

935
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: If you can stop the running game and force them

936
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: just a Joe straight drawback, now you have them where

937
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: you want them. Right, he's in the pocket. He's not

938
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: gonna be as mobile as you want him to be.

939
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to throw in the tight windows. And

940
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: then offensively, it's protecting Stafford right and being able to

941
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: run the football. You have to again dominate that line

942
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. I felt like last week offensively, you saw

943
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: some leakage in the in the in the protection. It

944
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: wasn't many holes in the running game. The line of

945
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: scrimmage was kind of Seattle did a great job of

946
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: really manipulating some of their the Rams protections and blocking

947
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: s game. Getting guys through suren that up and being

948
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: able to be balanced is gonna make the Rams that

949
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Speaker 2: was more dangerus.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask, because of the two points you just made,

951
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: how much can a true home field advantage play into that?

952
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: Because I think I hope my dream for Monday night

953
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Speaker 1: is that this is the best Rams home crowd of

954
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: the season.

955
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one, just a snap count is gonna

956
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Speaker 2: be huge. But I also think making plays right against

957
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: Minnesota as loud as is seen for Minnesota. When the

958
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Speaker 2: Rams were making plays, that thing was it was jumping

959
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: in there, it was loud, right, and so making plays early,

960
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 2: getting that momentum is gonna be huge in this game.

961
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: I just want Stafford to be able to utilize his

962
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: cadence right to comfortably be able to check to runs

963
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: when he wants to. And then I want Jared Verse

964
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: to have a full blown silent count get off right,

965
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: especially coming off the game where you get all those

966
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: neutral zone infractions, like it would be nice to have

967
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: the offense operate in a library and the defense to

968
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: operate in the Storm.

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00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: No question, I think it would be great.

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Speaker 1: I think my keys gonna be handling quick game because

971
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: of all the reasons we talked about. Two has got

972
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Speaker 1: the quickest time to throw in the league. This is

973
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Speaker 1: not Rock Purty, this is not Geno Smith. He's not

974
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Speaker 1: gonna lead the NFL in passing or and drop that game.

975
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to disrupt him and disrupt their offense

976
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: in different ways. Like you talked about the other strengths

977
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: of this defense, which I believe they're there, if they're

978
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: not just a pass rushing front like early down defense

979
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Speaker 1: from Jared Verse. This is the time to focus on that,

980
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: to see that, to feel him impact that edge in

981
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: a different way than just puncturing a pocket.

982
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 3: I just braid and fist.

983
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: Might have won the quickst I've ever seen in the NFL,

984
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's gonna be fast enough,

985
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, Like he won quick

986
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: in Seattle.

987
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: And I don't want to name names, but if that

988
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: right guard for Seattle wants to play for anyone else

989
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: on the Rams schedule this.

990
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: Year, please be your guest. Yeah, we'll put the trade

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Speaker 3: deadline back a co all right.

992
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: That was fun. Thank you m j D. Thank you Stu.

993
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: I know you're pulling double days, so we'll let you

994
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: get back to the gym. What's that biceps after lunch?

995
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: That's right.

996
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: We wrap up this week ten edition of Between the Horns,

997
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Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California toy, The Dealers, with an

998
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: invitation to join us in Inglewood on Monday Night under

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Speaker 1: lights Rams and Dolphins week ten. Let's make sure they

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00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: have that great home field advantage.

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Speaker 3: I'm JB.

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Speaker 1: Long and we'll see you next week on Between the Horns.