1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Doug Otleeb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Easter twelve, two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: local station for the Doug Gottleib Show at Fox Sports 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching apps car. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: As the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words, 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: and you better be listening to what the Miami Dolphins 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: are trying to tell you. Welcome in, it is a Thursday. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: He is erin Torres. I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug. 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Today's show is brought to you by learn to Skate USA. 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Every Olympic dream starts with a first glide. Through learn 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: to Skate USA, kids build confidence, strength, and enjoy on 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: the ice. Learn to Skate USA offers programs for skaters 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: of all ages and abilities. To find a program near 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: you at learn to Skate USA dot com. Erintorres. How 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: is your Thursday going? On Thursday's great? How is your 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: Thursday going? 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 3: Dan Buyer? 20 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: So far, so good? And I hope people are probably 21 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: tuning in saying, wait a second, where's Doug? We heard 22 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: what Doug said last night in Green Bay after his 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: Phoenix picked up a huge non conference win against U 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: SEE Santa Barbara. Pretty good win in college basketball, right, 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: I mean, when you're a mid major you're trying to 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: make your up way up through the Horizon League. A 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: nice win against an eight and three UCSB team. It's 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: pretty good. 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 4: Erin Torres, Yes, it unbelievable win. I know Doug was 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: a little bit emotional after the game, yes, And what 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: you know, I'll give you the floor. You know Doug 32 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 4: as well as anybody in this business, and I know 33 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: I know Doug will be speaking for himself soon. 34 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: And Doug's going to be in tomorrow, so we all 35 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: know the news and we'll let Doug speak for what 36 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: Doug has to say and what he said last night. 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to put any words in his mouth. 38 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: But after the win, the big win that they got, 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Doug made an announcement and he will deal with that tomorrow. 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: So we're all aware. Doug will be on the Doug 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show tomorrow. You don't have to worry about that. 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: But it's erin Torres and myself today hanging out here 43 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. So but a great win for 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: Doug going to focus on basketball. We're going to focus 45 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: on this show today and let Doug say everything that 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: he needs to say and wants to say and deserves 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: to say. Coming up in tomorrow's show. A lot of 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: people are talking about the Miami Dolphins speaking of having 49 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: something to say, and I think Aaron that the message here, 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: the message is being lost. The message that we have 51 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: heard out of Miami this week is that's it for Tua. 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: Tua's run is over. Told you to a stinks Tua 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: was never good. And I think this message is actually 54 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: clouding what is going on in Miami. And this all 55 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: stems from the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel announcing that on 56 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: Tuesday they were going to evaluate the quarterback position, and 57 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: then yesterday announcing that seventh round pick quin you Weers 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: would end up replacing Tua, with Tua being demoted down 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: to number three for the game this Sunday against the 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. It's all been about Tua, Tua, Tua's benching, 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: but I just think that there's more to that. So 62 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: when you hear the news about Tua being benched, what 63 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: was your knee jerk reaction to the move from Miami. 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think coming off of Monday night, 65 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: it was a debacle. And I'll be honest when when 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 4: I did hear it, I thought, you know, not good 67 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: for Tua. And I do think there's a little bit of, 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 4: you know, people that never believed in him taking victory 69 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 4: laps or whatever. And I do think it's a great 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 4: point by you. We all have to take a step 71 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: back and say, wait a second. Now, this team started 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: one in six, gave up thirty plus points in each 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: of its first three losses, and oh, by the way, 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: was eliminated from the playoffs over the course of these 75 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: past couple of days with the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, 76 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: and so you know, it does feel like Tua has 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: become this blanket conversation without the context of they've been 78 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: eliminated from the playoffs. And I'm not saying he's having 79 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: a season like Josh Allen, like whomever, but he is 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: not the sole reason that they are in this position, 81 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: sitting at six and eight going into the final two 82 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: weeks of the regular season. So it has been interesting 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: I final three weeks of the regular season, I apologize, 84 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: but it has been interesting to see the narrative and 85 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: the conversation given the fact that this is an organization 86 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: that fired its GM that we thought for a long 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: time would be firing its head coach. Although I think 88 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: we both know where that's going and we could continue 89 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: that conversation. I yeah, I just it has become interesting 90 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 4: how it has become a to a conversation as opposed 91 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 4: to say, a bigger picture Dolphins conversation. Over the last 92 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: couple of days. 93 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: The Miami Dolphins have basically put this all on to 94 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: his shoulders. They got dominated by the Steelers on Monday night. 95 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: There was some curious play calling, so much so that 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: Troy Aikman said it in the broadcast of this team 97 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: didn't seem to be in a hurry for anything, and 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: now they're in a hurry with two minutes left in 99 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: the game that they were completely out of Steelers scoring 100 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: on consecutive possessions, racking up adding to their lead over 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. So it wasn't like the defense was doing 102 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: their part. But this all just piles on Tua And 103 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: that's what the Dolphins want you to believe and want 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: you to see. This is the fact the Dolphins, while 105 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: they may be done with Tua tongue of Ailoa are 106 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: also tanking on this season for the final three weeks 107 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: of the year. Now, there's only so much you can tank. 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: They're not going to get the first overall pick. They 109 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: have too many wins already for that. But it is 110 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: no coincidence, no coincidence whatsoever, that the Miami Dolphins are 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: making a change at quarterback hours after they were eliminated 112 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: from postseason competition. It was a long shot anyway, Aaron. 113 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: But if you go back to Monday night and you 114 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: evaluate where the Miami Dolphins were in that game against 115 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, where their playoff hopes were still alive 116 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh did not have TJ. Watt in the game 117 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: that they needed the most to win the season. They 118 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: started to a tongue of by Law, and Tua went 119 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: twenty two of twenty eight for two hundred and fifty yards, 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: two touchdowns and an interception. That's the stat line. He 121 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 2: wasn't fourteen of thirty three for one hundred and eighteen 122 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: yards in three interceptions. He's thrown a lot of interceptions. 123 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: He's actually leads the league in interceptions with fifteen of 124 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: them this season. This season, but if you were to 125 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: bench him and you felt that there was a better 126 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: option or something that you wanted to improve on, you 127 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: would have done it before this, and they didn't. And 128 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: so I think that the narrative that we have heard 129 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: all week long, and by the way, Mike McDaniel is 130 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: going to stay as head coach. There is no way 131 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: he is going to be fired GM Chris Greer was ousted, 132 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: the Dolphins went on a run. The word, the narrative 133 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: out of the Dolphins locker room was that the players 134 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: like Mike McDaniel. That's what this move is also about. 135 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel is getting a head start on twenty twenty 136 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: six and all of the signs that lead up of 137 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: what the Dolphins did with this decision, even to Zach Wilson, 138 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: who even told reporters yesterday that he was confused a 139 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: bit by the decision, didn't necessarily understand on why they 140 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: were going with Quinn yours instead of him. If Zach 141 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: Wilson was your best way to he's been your second 142 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: quarterback all season long. Now you're going with a seventh 143 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: round pick of a quarterback, and you were sitting there 144 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: saying that this our this is our best option. We 145 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: want to look at stuff. No, this is tanking. This 146 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: is tanking. If you want to put two on the 147 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: shelf because you don't want him to get hurt, that's fine, 148 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: but don't put it all on to his shoulders. The 149 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins are completely covering up what the real story is, 150 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: and is that they're not trying to win these final 151 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: three games of the season. 152 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: No. One hundred and as far as Zach Wilson's concerned, 153 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: I could tell him very easily why they're not going 154 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: to him. It's because he probably gives them a better 155 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: chance to win than a seventh round quarterback that has 156 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: never started a game before. And and yeah, it is. 157 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: It is just a very interesting situation. And to your point, 158 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: it is interesting how it has been framed publicly. And 159 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: I do wonder if it's you know, Mike, Mike McDaniel 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 4: trying to say face a little bit knowing that he's 161 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: coming back next year. I don't know exactly why, but 162 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: it just has been interesting. And again I go back 163 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: to what I said a half a second ago. I 164 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: don't know if it's just because Tua has essentially been 165 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: a lightning rod really since draft. I mean Dan, it's 166 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: easy to forget, like we know about the tank for 167 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 4: Tua stuff early in his Alabama career he was coming 168 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: off major hip surgery, of will he ever play football again? 169 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 4: Was a conversation that people were having, maybe not the 170 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: night of the draft, but probably a couple months before 171 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 4: the draft. And I only bring that up to say 172 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: that it does feel like there have been a lot 173 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: of people circling the wagons waiting for this moment where 174 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: Tua gets benched to say, wow, I've been telling you 175 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 4: since he was at Alabama. Hey, you can't try to 176 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: get And it's like one thing doesn't necessarily have anything 177 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: to do with the other, but they are being framed 178 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: that way. And so to your point, I think it's 179 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: a great question for First of all, to your point, 180 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: I think if you watch the game on Monday night 181 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: versus the stat line, like you don't realize that the 182 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: statlight was actually a lot better than you remember it 183 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: from watching the game. But then two, to your point, 184 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: if somehow the Dolphins were mathematically still in the playoff hunt, 185 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: still mathematically able to conceivably make the playoffs, he is 186 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: probably your starter this week, but he gets benched, and 187 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: then again to what you've said a couple times, is 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: the spotlight instantly turns to blame to a it's all 189 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: his fault. You gotta get rid of him. You'll never 190 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: get over a certain hump with him as your quarterback. 191 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: It has been fascinating to see how all of that 192 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 4: and all of those narratives have shifted. 193 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: He becomes the easy scapegoat and the reason that they're 194 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: benching him. And I know that this contract is an 195 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: enormous out tross, but this is why you're also not 196 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: playing him the final three games. If it really was 197 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: a demotion, he would probably be actually the backup quarterback. 198 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: Let Quinn you were start, and if something goes wrong 199 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: then you have two in. But no, they're gonna put 200 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: him at the emergency quarterback in case something does happen 201 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: with Quinn e yours or Quinn yours is awful, then 202 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: you got to put a different quarterback in, and you 203 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: put Zack Wilson in so then Tua doesn't get hurt 204 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: like it's the Dolphins are just piling on. They're completely 205 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: piling onto the narrative of everybody now taking their victory lap. 206 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: About to your point, Aaron, whether it was in the 207 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty draft or whether it was throughout, and I agree, Look, 208 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: Tua maxed out. He maxed out with their playoff game 209 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: that they had in Kansas City when it was like 210 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: zero degrees. That's as good as it was going to 211 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: get for the Dolphins, and it's probably gonna be as 212 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: good as it's going to get for Tua as a 213 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: starting quarterback. But that doesn't mean Tua deserves to have 214 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: this whole entire narrative poured on his shoulder of what 215 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: the Dolphins are trying to do for these final three 216 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: games of the season, which I think is kind of 217 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: crappy for a team to do, especially if he thought 218 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: he was good enough to be your starting quarterback on 219 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: Monday when it was a Musk must win game against 220 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: an AFC foe. This is what two I had to 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: say when he talked about the news that he wasn't 222 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: going to be starting in Week sixteen. 223 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 5: Naturally, I'd say, I'm disappointed. I think it's normal. It's 224 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 5: a normal human emotion, you know. Outside of that, I 225 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 5: got to do my part. My road here right now 226 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 5: is to help whoever the quarterback is going to be 227 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 5: for this team, to lead this team help in whatever 228 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 5: way I can, you know, to help the team win. 229 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 5: Win this game on Sunday. 230 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 6: Why do you think this has happened? 231 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: I would say the biggest thing, and it's being honest 232 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: with myself as well, had been my performance. I haven't 233 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 5: been performing up to the level and the capabilities. 234 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: That I have in best. Oh boys, he's covering for him, Aaron. 235 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: That's why you say. If I got to say it 236 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: and then he's like he's holding it off of it, 237 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: I got to be honest with myself. He's lying to himself. 238 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: Maybe he hasn't been great, but he doesn't be deserved 239 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: to be demoted to third string quarterback for the Miami 240 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: Dolphins for the final three games of the year. That 241 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: not only matter when it comes to draft position. 242 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: The other thing I will say, Tua is not afraid 243 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: to throw a coach under the bus if he feels 244 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: so inclined. Look at his comments on Brian Flores. So 245 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: I think there's probably part of it that, Hey, we're 246 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 4: six and eight. You know, we obviously made the playoffs 247 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: two years ago. We haven't really built off of that. 248 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: But I do think there's something too. You can be 249 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: honest and say my play hasn't been good enough, while 250 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: also acknowledging that your play not being good enough is 251 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: also not the sole reason that the entire organization is 252 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 4: in the current spot that they're in, if that makes sense. 253 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: Two also talked about his future in Miami after this season. 254 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: Do you think we've played your last time with the Dolphins? 255 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 5: I'm not too sure. I can't predict the future. I can't, 256 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 5: you know, predict any of that. So it is what 257 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 5: it is. And as I said, got to help out 258 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: Q Gott, to help out Zach. Whoever the starter is 259 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: or is going to do what I can to help 260 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 5: them in that row and help them the. 261 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: Team in games. I actually think he's being a team players. 262 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: Who the starting quarterback is, it's why, yeah, right, he 263 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: said Q first, And if you didn't know at that time, 264 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: if they didn't tell you who they were gonna go with. 265 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know what the timeline of the announcement 266 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: into a speaking, but at first he said he didn't 267 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: know who it was, and then he mentioned the seventh 268 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: round pick as the quarterback instead of the the actual 269 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: number two that's been backing them up the whole time. 270 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: He's in on it. He's covering for them. It's too 271 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: bad the Dolphins couldn't do the same for Tula. 272 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: Now and it is it is disappointing to see the setup, 273 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 4: to see everything and the way that it has it 274 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: just I'll say this is I did think overall, he 275 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: handled that about as well as you possibly could have. 276 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: To your point, is he covering for the franchise a 277 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: little bit? Is he maybe defending or protecting some people 278 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: that he shouldn't. Maybe, But at the same time, you know, 279 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: I do think that he handled that up about as 280 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: well as he could. 281 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb. 282 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: Today find Aaron at Aaron Underscore Torres on Nex. You 283 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: could find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Have you 284 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: heard about trainer games? Add this to your bingch list. 285 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: Ten athletes go head to head for the chance to 286 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: win an iFIT trainer contract with two hundred and fifty 287 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, streaming on Prime Video starting January eighth. While 288 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: we have got Week sixteen actions, tonight, Dolphins have the Bengals, 289 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: by the way, nice soft launch because the Bengals, we 290 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: know how bad their defense is. So Zach Wilson actually 291 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: may have success against the Bengals if he were to 292 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: play them, and they may actually win the game. So 293 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: they're going to Quinn yours and I'm a Quinn yours. 294 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: I like Quinn yours erin sure, I do. I just 295 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: don't think that unless you're trying to make this into 296 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: some magical brock Purty seventh round pick situation, which it's not. 297 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: I just don't under understand the reason going to the 298 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: rookie aside from trying to lose games, and Tuus should 299 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: know that this was his last game in Miami. Like 300 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: that's my only takeaway with all of this is if 301 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: now you're playing against the worst defense in the National 302 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: Football League and you can't have too good a quarterback 303 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: play if you want to win that game. 304 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: So I'm actually really torn because on the one hand, 305 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: I do think we kind of know what Zach Wilson is, 306 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 4: and you know, I think we all know what Zach 307 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 4: Wilson is. And I do think there's something to give 308 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: the seventh round picks some game experience to see if 309 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: he can elevate and do whatever. But so I think 310 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: there's something to give Quinn Ewers the opportunity to genuinely 311 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: see if there is anything there. We know he was 312 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: a former five star, you know, maybe there is something there. 313 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: The counter to that is also kind of the undertone 314 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: of this whole conversation, which is you're trying to get 315 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: the worst draft spot as possible, and the upside of 316 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: what Zach Wilson could be against the worst defense in 317 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: the league, to your point, is probably enough to get 318 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: a win. And so I do think there's a small 319 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: element of is there anything here with Quinn Eewers, But 320 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: I think it's more about losing games, protecting draft picks, 321 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. 322 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 323 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 7: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 324 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 325 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: A guy who's not going to go on strike because 326 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: he's always working in the NFL season. Is Adam Kaplan 327 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: joining us now host of the Inside of the Birds podcast, 328 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: our NFL inside or find him on Kaplan on ex 329 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: at Kaplan NFL also on sports Grid. All right, Adam, 330 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: we were just talking about the Tua situation in Miami. 331 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: I think that the Dolphins are taking a convenient approach 332 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: to pour everything on Tua when they're trying to lose games. 333 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: Why did they turn to Quinn youwrs and not Zach 334 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: Wilson in this situation. 335 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 8: Well, because Quinn Yours was drafted by them, and Quinn 336 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 8: Yours is a guy I know for fact, they had 337 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 8: a higher grade on than he was drafted. And when 338 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 8: you're eliminated, the term is evaluation mode. They're in evaluation mode. 339 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 8: They don't need to valuate Zach Wilson. They know what 340 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 8: he is. And it's actually a very simple decision for them. 341 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 8: They were cut. The way I understand it is they 342 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 8: got progressively fed ups. Not as strong is not a 343 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 8: fair word. They they got frustrated with with Tua. And 344 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 8: remember that the general manager of drafting was fired, Chris Greer, 345 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 8: and they have no allegiance to the player now. Unfortunately, 346 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 8: because his contract structure, it's gonna be very hard to trade. 347 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 8: It's just they're gonna almost certainly have to eat some 348 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 8: of the money of the fifty four million that's fully 349 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 8: guaranteed next season, and there's a there's some trigger points 350 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 8: for future seasons, so they're gonna have They're gonna have 351 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 8: to They're gonna basically have to move on from them 352 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 8: one way or the other. The last thing they want 353 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 8: to do is cut them because they're gonna owe them 354 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 8: that money. But sure effect the matter is, guys, it 355 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 8: hasn't worked. And yours is a guy that dropped in 356 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 8: the draft, had a big injury history unfortunately. But I 357 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 8: know for fact that they're very high on this player 358 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 8: and they're gonna want to take a look at him 359 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 8: because there's there's nothing to play for other than evaluation. 360 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and I I understand that portion of it, 361 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: But what does it say about the NFL? What does 362 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: he even say about the Dolphins? Like if Tua was 363 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: so bad, why don't they go to Zach Wilson earlier? 364 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: While they still like playoff hopes. That's the point that 365 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: I that's. 366 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 8: Harder because they're on a roll because remember they Dan, 367 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 8: they kind of sort of turn their season around, right, Yeah, 368 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 8: I know last week was bad, but they started to 369 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 8: getting you know, they got they won four in a 370 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 8: row with that quarterback and with tuaus So and they 371 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 8: had a bit huge win where they blow out Buffalo, 372 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 8: which was shocking. 373 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why their messaging Adam doesn't make any 374 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: sense like it does but it doesn't. And I just 375 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: I feel like they're really doing to a dirty by 376 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: piling this all on him. McDaniel's words after the game, 377 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: we have to evaluate the Yeah, I was just gonna 378 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: say the evaluating of the quarterback portion of it. To me, 379 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: it was just it's easy because everybody piles onto it, 380 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: and I just feel that it's unfair to him that 381 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: the Dolphins are doing this when they have ulterior motives 382 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: in all of this, including to your point, the evaluation period, 383 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: which I don't think is lost on anybody, but it's 384 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: also then reflects on where where are we in the NFL. 385 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: If teams are just throwing away weeks at the end 386 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: of the season, and you know in week sixteen, I'd 387 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: get week seventeen and week eighteen, but you know, come on, 388 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: I just don't like it. 389 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 8: I would add to this. So when Mike McDaniel after 390 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 8: the if the press conference, if they lost us the Steelers, 391 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 8: I mean, he was asked the direct question, is too, 392 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 8: is still your starter? And he could have said, yeah, 393 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 8: he's our starter, but he's got a play better we 394 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 8: have when we have to coach better, which is the 395 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 8: typical coach speak. I didn't say that, it's like we're 396 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 8: evaluating everything. I was like, Wow, he didn't back them. 397 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 8: That's not good. That when you have a chance to 398 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 8: back him after a loss and you don't, you're opening 399 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 8: a major cannon worm. So on your point, Dan, that's 400 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 8: where it really started. But I know behind the scenes 401 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 8: they've been frustrated because he's never really been able to 402 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 8: play consistently good enough football. I know they've been the 403 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 8: playoffs with him but really never advanced at all. And 404 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 8: the GM who decided to take him over Justin Herbert 405 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 8: was fired, and that's you know, that's kind of where 406 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 8: it is. 407 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: Let me ask you a dumb question, Adam. The presumption 408 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: then would be that they would draft a quarterback. And 409 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: the only reason I ask is because it feels like 410 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 4: there aren't does feel like a great quarterback draft. And 411 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: then on top of it, they're obviously not going to 412 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: be in position to get the one to two guys 413 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 4: that people believe are difference makers, but they would still, 414 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 4: you know, hope to find the right guy at pick twelve, 415 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 4: thirteen fourteen wherever they end up drafting. 416 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 8: Well, we don't know about that. We don't know anything 417 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 8: about the draft yet because the terms of who's available 418 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 8: that that'll we won't know until January fifteenth, when is 419 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 8: the that the unaclassman can declare. So that's off the 420 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 8: table for now. What they can do, and everything I've 421 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 8: been told is that mac Jones is going to have 422 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 8: a very big market. There will be multiple teams involved. 423 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 8: His tape was really good filling in now, they could 424 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 8: take that on your on your point your question, Aaron, 425 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 8: they could take that route, the free agent route, but 426 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 8: the free agent group overall is bad. They could trade 427 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 8: the trade route. Kirk Cousins could still plays look better lately, 428 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 8: but that he's got a big cash number that's unattenable. 429 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 8: You're not going to want to take his contract and 430 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 8: he's over player, and then you look to see who's released, 431 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 8: trade market or draft as you're pointing out, but we 432 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 8: have to see who comes a well. But first they're 433 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 8: in a tough way, there's no question. It just depends 434 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 8: on what the draft looks like. On the surface in 435 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 8: terms of upper senior class it's bad, but underclassmen it 436 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 8: looks like it's got a chance to be good depending 437 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 8: on who declares. 438 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 2: Adam kaplan our nfl In said, are joining us here 439 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. He's heroin Tores. I'm Dan byer 440 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: in for Doug Gottlieb today on Fox Sports Radio. What 441 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: about the Joe Burrow situation because he hasn't been helping 442 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: himself over the last couple of weeks, frustrated talking about retirement. 443 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: So is he frustrated with the Bengals. He's just frustrated 444 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: with football. What's the deal with Burrow losing? 445 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 8: No, he's frustrated with losing. I know I have a 446 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 8: decent insight on what's going on there. He's frustrated that 447 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 8: they can't win. He's never got to say anything about 448 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 8: their defense. Their defense most weeks is non competitive. It 449 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 8: was terrible. It was actually worse last season under lou 450 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 8: Ana Roumo is doing a good job with the Colts. 451 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 8: And this is I remember, you know, I don't know 452 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 8: if I told you this when I talked to Carl Pickens, 453 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 8: the former Bengals receiver who forfeited part of signing bonus 454 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 8: his last contract because he asked out. He wanted out, 455 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 8: he didn't care. He just couldn't take coming in the 456 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 8: building anymore and would he would end his career with 457 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 8: the Titans. But it's tough man. It's tough when you 458 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 8: know you don't have a chance to win. This is 459 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 8: what Carl told me. It's really hard to go into 460 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 8: work and he's frustrated they're not trading him. Like the 461 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 8: trade deadline. I mean, they'd be able to trade is 462 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 8: in March, in the middle of March. But Aaron just 463 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 8: talked about it. I mean, it's just we were talking 464 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 8: about this a minute ago. That quarterback for agent class 465 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 8: isn't very good other than mac Jones, there's really nowhere 466 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 8: to go. And what I felt when they resigned to Higgins, 467 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 8: I was really surprised by that. Not that he's a 468 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 8: good player, but you're putting your resources totally on offense 469 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 8: and the A they don't draft well on defense, well enough, 470 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 8: they've done awfully in free agency on defense, and they 471 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 8: have a bad roster that's on defense. They have a 472 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 8: really bad roster dan and it's hard. It's hard to 473 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 8: get out of that. You can't do it one year, 474 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 8: by the way, it takes some time. 475 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 4: Let me ask you about another quarterback, Patrick Mahomes obviously 476 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 4: very unfortunately. Yeah, well I was gonna ask you know, 477 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: he he obviously he's a competitor and he's great at 478 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 4: what he does, and he says he wants to be 479 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 4: back week one. But we can see that this Chiefs 480 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: team has a lot of work to do. Like one, 481 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: I don't even know. I'm not asking to play doctor here, 482 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: but does it make sense to just almost use next 483 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: year as kind of a reset year? I know with 484 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: Andy Reid you're never going to really bottom out. 485 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 8: But yeah, they're not going to do that. But yeah, well. 486 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: Go ahead, explain why they wouldn't. 487 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 8: They're not They don't think they're in the rebuild. But 488 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 8: I would tell you if everyone I've talked to in 489 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 8: the last two three weeks. I do radio every Thursday 490 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 8: on WHB in Kent City, and you know, we actually 491 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 8: spend twenty minutes on this today. My whole segment was 492 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 8: based on this. What do they do next year? The 493 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 8: roster's not very good. I think that comparatively to what 494 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 8: it's been. Their offensive line was not as good as 495 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 8: they thought it would be. They spent a lot of 496 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 8: resources on it. It didn't work out. 497 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 498 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 8: The one thing one of the things I was told 499 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 8: Aaron going to the season, they wanted to bring back 500 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 8: vertical passing game. This is a big thing for them. 501 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 8: Never happened with Hollywood Brown and Worthy who they you know, 502 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 8: they made the trade in last year's draft to gill 503 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 8: get him with Buffalo, believe or not, of all of 504 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 8: all teams to make a trade with, and that has 505 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 8: not worked out yet. He's been okay, but they're not 506 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 8: getting the explosives with him. Their defense, they lack pass rushers, 507 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 8: really not very good. Their cornerback group other than McDuffie's 508 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 8: really bottom five the roster, guys, I mean, it's just 509 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 8: not good enough. It's a it's a probably a bottom 510 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 8: half of the NFL roster, believe or not, spite them 511 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 8: making the Super Bowl last season, and they also have 512 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 8: gotten older and Aaron, it's a it's a they don't 513 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 8: run the ball well. By the way, average perplay is 514 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 8: not good. They're they're they're actually outside the top ten. 515 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 8: Season they were in top three, and yards per play 516 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 8: is one of the one of the evaluation numbers that 517 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 8: clubs use. Through six years, there were no less than, 518 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 8: no lower than top three. So everything's dropped off. Guys, Yeah, 519 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 8: this is this is not good. They what they need 520 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 8: is a major retool. And John Schneider, the GM told 521 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 8: me that one when why had asked him in his 522 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 8: office many years ago. We were sitting down and talking 523 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 8: about football and everything and said, hey, you know, I 524 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 8: don't know you got this is after legion of boom. 525 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 8: You guys in the rebuild. It goes No, we don't 526 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 8: believe that. We believe in retooling the roster while trying 527 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 8: to win, and that's that's what the TEPS are going 528 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 8: to try. 529 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: To do here. Well, Seahawks are playing their biggest game, 530 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: I think in since Super Bowl forty nine tonight against 531 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: the Rams. Just a side note there, Adam Kaplan joining 532 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's going to have 533 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: so much to say with the NFC, but I want 534 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 2: to ask you about something that you just said to 535 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: Aaron And don't mean to put you on the spot, 536 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: but I think it's we look at the NFL when 537 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: you talk about best rosters available, the Eagles were always 538 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: the team for best roster in the NFL, the Philadelphia Eagles. 539 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: If Philadelphia is the best in the league and best 540 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: in the NFC, and it's not the Chiefs, and I 541 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: know Buffalo is complaining about their roster and what they 542 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: have around Josh Allen in the AFC. Who has the 543 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: best roster in that conference? 544 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 8: Oh boy, is the NFC player for the first time? Yeah, well, 545 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 8: I would say Denver. And as a matter of fact, 546 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 8: with Denver, their offensive talent is way better than their 547 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 8: like their numbers would show. And obviously both bo Nicks 548 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 8: has been up and down. Yeah they do. I would 549 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 8: say that without a shadow of doubt. They do. And 550 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 8: they've got the best and Sean I mean, I mean 551 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 8: when you look at Sean Payton, he's done a phenomenal 552 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 8: job there. Yeah, Denver has the best roster now. And 553 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 8: not only that, I would say in the National Football League, 554 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 8: Green Bay, you take Michael Parsons out there, out of there, 555 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 8: the equation it's completely different. They're not a lock to 556 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 8: make the playoffs. They should make it, but they're not 557 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 8: a lock. Phillies, their roster's not close to last year 558 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 8: they had. They lost five starters on defense, and it's 559 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 8: although although they've kind of retooled. They had the trade 560 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 8: deadline move and Jalen Phillips has been really good and 561 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 8: they're they're they're now pois probably to make a little 562 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 8: bit of a run here. Their schedules really good, but 563 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 8: it's Sky's I'm telling you, and you're a Seahawks fan, 564 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 8: Dan Ronald doesn't implode, and I know he had four 565 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 8: picks the last time they played the Rams, but they 566 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 8: should be a little bit better on offense. You'd expect him. 567 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 8: If Sam doesn't implode, they're capable of making run for 568 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 8: the NFC. This is a good year just to get in. 569 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and tonight is so much implications and it's not 570 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: done if the Seahawks were to win. But if the 571 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: Rams win this, the Rams are in a really, really 572 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: good spot over the final two weeks of the season. 573 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: So all right, Adam, we appreciate the time. Can't wait 574 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: to talk to you on Sunday when I team up 575 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: with Carrie Roads, and we'll talk to you again here 576 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: on Fox Pouts right. Thanks, Yes, Adam Kaplan our NFL 577 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: inside Our co host of the Inside the Birds podcast. 578 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 2: Find him on x at Kaplan NFL. 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That 588 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: was the Memphis Grizzlies topping the Minnesota Timberwolves on the 589 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: Grizzlies Radio Network one sixteen to won ten in W 590 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: in action last night as the Grizzlies end up getting 591 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: the w over the Timberwolves. He is Aaron Torres. I'm 592 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: Dan Beyer. I do think tonight's game is the biggest 593 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: for the Seahawks since Russell Wilson threw the interception of 594 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: Malcolm Butler on the one yard line. There there were 595 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: there were years and even Adams said that John Schneider 596 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 2: and the Seahawks were in this reload mode, but they 597 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: were never the contender that they were. There was a 598 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: game about six years ago where they played the forty 599 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: nine Ers in the final week of the season, and 600 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: if the Seahawks won, the forty nine Ers wouldn't have 601 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: been the number one seed, But it doesn't mean that 602 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: the Seahawks would have been the number one overall seed. 603 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: That would have gone to Green Bay. But if you 604 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: win tonight, it really opens things up in the NFC. 605 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: Watch the forty nine ers would have life the Seahawks 606 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: in forty nine ers are on a have a date 607 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: in week eighteen, but a huge, huge game in the 608 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: NFL tonight with the Ramsom Seahawks. 609 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, all I'll say really quick is knowing this game 610 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 4: was this evening, I was excited to be working with 611 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: you today, knowing your history with the Seattle Seahawks. 612 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: My only real take. 613 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: So I have been a Sam Donald critic for most 614 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: of his career, right up until that Sunday night game 615 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: against the Commanders a few weeks ago, when every time 616 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: I looked up, guys were running eighty yards down the 617 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: sideline untouched, and I was like, this team's awesome. They're 618 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: fun to watch. And so I got really into the 619 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: Seahawks and started believing in Sam Donald. And then, to 620 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: Adam's point, he had the disastrous game a few weeks 621 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 4: ago at so far, so I'm excited. I'm cautiously optimistic. 622 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 4: Adam brought up Sam Donald's, you know, lack of success 623 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: in these super high profile games, even though he has 624 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: had a lot of regular season success. 625 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 8: The last few years. 626 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: So as somebody with kind of no skin in the game, 627 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: I'm just excited to watch see if Sam Darnold can 628 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: get that pseudo monkey off his back, pick up a 629 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 4: big win, and then to your point, if he does, 630 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 4: everything's on the table, from a number one seed, a 631 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: deep playoff runt, all that good stuff. 632 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: He is aeron Torres. I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, 633 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: Week sixteen, kicking off tonight in Seattle between these Seahawks 634 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: and the Rams. 635 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 636 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 7: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 637 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer. He 638 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: is Aeron Torres, in for Doug Today. Doug will be 639 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: with us tomorrow here on Fox Sports Radio. Hit Aaron 640 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: up at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me at 641 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: Dan Byer on Fox. Jason Stewart's our executive producer, Iowa 642 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: Sam our technical producer, and at the news desk. Because 643 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: I was a low and Crown and he's got a game. 644 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 7: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 645 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 9: Friend Sesame Street helped raise all of us. Now it's 646 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 9: our turn donate this holiday season at sesame dot org. 647 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: Because the world. 648 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 9: Needs sesame and Sesame needs you. We need a game 649 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 9: to play. 650 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 7: I feel a draft. 651 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 9: Okay, gang, We're gonna draft teams that you most like 652 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 9: to win the college football Playoff. The number one pick 653 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 9: goes to Dan, followed by Aaron Torres, Iowa, Sam, Isaac 654 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 9: Loewen something or other can't stand that guy, then Jason, 655 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 9: and then back around and with the number one pick 656 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 9: teams we most like to win the college football Playoff. 657 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: I give you Dan Byer. 658 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know, if I was choosing with my heart, 659 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: you know, or I would go. But I will say this, 660 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: this pick is up for trade. If someone has a 661 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: sure fire number one that they would like to take, 662 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: I would offer this up for trade. If anyone is interested. 663 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 8: I'll trade. 664 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Aaron Torres, you and I will flop 665 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: one and two and then maybe nine and ten. Does 666 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: that sound good? 667 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 6: Yeah? 668 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 4: I don't think the ten team can win it, so okay, 669 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: so it's a good trade for me. Uh, I'll go 670 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: to Georgia Bulldogs. 671 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 6: Good pick. 672 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm with you. I think Ohio State, to 673 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 4: their credit, is a year ahead of schedule, first year 674 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: starter Jeremiah Smith back whatever. 675 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 8: Georgia. 676 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: Not only have they gone through a gauntlet, beat Ole, Miss, 677 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: beat Tennessee, et cetera, they're peaking at the right time, 678 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: dominating Texas a few weeks ago, dominating Alabama in the 679 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: SEC Championship game. I don't know if they will win it, 680 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: but I do think to me, I don't feel comfortable 681 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: picking anybody else, so I will gladly take that trade 682 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: and take Georgia with the number one overall pick. 683 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm sitting there at number two. I listen, 684 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: I could be the wheeler and dealer and continue to 685 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: trade check. 686 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: Just keep trading him. Is the less sneed of today. 687 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: Are you gonna get a first overall pick in next 688 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 4: year's college football? 689 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 690 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: You got to get something extra thrown in, Dan. 691 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: That's right. I just don't maybe a tailgate food. 692 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 9: That's what I would do if I was making a trade. 693 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 9: I'd like throw in a tailgate food at one of 694 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 9: these stadiums. 695 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: Like I just feel really good about Notre Dame next year, 696 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 4: So I'm just lining it up for that a futures pick. 697 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: You know what, we'll go off the board. Give me 698 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: Oregon at two, all right, Yes, getting momentum from a 699 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: game on the first weekend and then carrying it through Iowa. 700 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 9: Sam comes next, and again Iowa is not necessarily a 701 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 9: candidate for this game. 702 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: Sorry. 703 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 10: So they'll be taking on Vanderbilt in the relayah Quest 704 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 10: Bowl formerly was it dan the Outback Bowl? 705 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 8: Yes, so yet another appearance. 706 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 10: For Kirk Farns the Hawkeyes in the out Back Bowl 707 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 10: now the la Quist Bowl. Anyway, I'm getting off I 708 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 10: digest here. I'm gonna take Texas Tech and they're really, really, 709 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 10: really good defense. Give me Texas Tech Red Raiders. 710 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 9: So none of y'all picked Indiana and they're the one seed, 711 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 9: all right, what can I say? I'm gonna go with Indiana. 712 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 9: Next two picks belong to Jason Stewart. 713 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 6: So in is something going on here? What's going on? 714 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 6: So the the odds on favorite to win is available 715 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 6: with pick five. 716 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: You guys all. 717 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 10: Avoided Indiana is the shaduor Sanders of this draft. 718 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 6: It feels dirty, but I guess I'll do Ohio State 719 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 6: since they're the odds on favorite to win. And then 720 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 6: I'm going to go with the team that I'm rooting 721 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 6: for ole Miss. I don't know if you guys heard, 722 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 6: but they lost their their head coach and they gained 723 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 6: a fan and me ole Miss with the six pick. 724 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 9: I wouldn't say they lost their head coach as much 725 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 9: as the head coach lost them. Okay, this is we're 726 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 9: now down to what ten? 727 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: Nine, eight? 728 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 9: We're now in a seven pick? What the heck? I'm 729 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 9: gonna really go outside the box and go Miami of Florida, 730 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 9: like that kind of a sleeper for that role. 731 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 3: So Sam, you're next. 732 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 10: Okay, you know what, I'm gonna go with Oklahoma. I'm 733 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 10: gonna go with Oklahoma just because they get to host 734 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 10: this game in Norman. I feel like Alabama's got some 735 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 10: running the ball issues. I'm gonna go with the Sooners. 736 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 10: Give me the Sooners. 737 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 9: And now, as a result of their stunning trade, they 738 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 9: even scooped WOJE on it with the ninth pick, Dan. 739 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 2: Byer, Okay, so Isac, who was your first pick? 740 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 3: I can't remember? No, My first pick was Indiana? 741 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: Okay? Indiana, all right? Matthew Texas Tech okay? Alabama? 742 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 9: Alabama, Alabama okay. And with the final pick, Aaron Torres 743 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 9: among those on the board. According to my computer like mind, 744 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 9: we got Texas A and M. James Madison and Tulane. 745 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 4: Well they're at home this weekend. Favored this weekend, I'll 746 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 4: take the Texas A and M. 747 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 9: Maggie's all right, there we have it. These will be 748 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 9: locked in and filed away for New Year's There is 749 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 9: your college football playoff draft. 750 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 8: Game. 751 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 7: This is game time on the Gottlieb Show. 752 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: I thought maybe you would go number one with Georgia. Aaron. 753 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm just glad that you were a wheeler and dealer 754 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: that I was able to at least get a little 755 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: bit more value. And Sam with the Texas Tech surprised 756 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 2: me a little bit. 757 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 4: I thought about going with Texas Tech at number two. 758 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: If I had stayed in that spot, I don't know 759 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 4: that I would have. I probably would have gone with 760 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: J Stew's Ohio State Buck guys, who I know you adore. 761 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, I Texas Tech's interesting. I think a lot 762 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 4: of people are sleeping on. 763 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 10: I do think Georgia is the strongest pick because they 764 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 10: got the Alabama monkey off their back because they lost 765 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 10: it home. Then they just walloped him in the championship game. 766 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 10: And I saw a video of like Kirby Smart could 767 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 10: be heard from the parking lots yelling at his team. 768 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 10: They're gonna they're gonna be ferocious during this playoff. 769 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: I think that they turned the volume up. Yeah, maybe 770 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 2: a little for that was refect, but yeah, yeah, I 771 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: saw that too. I left. At first, I thought the 772 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: guy was in traffic, so I thought, like Kirby Smart 773 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: was yelling on the phone or something, or like threw 774 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: a car. And then I realized, oh, he's sitting outside 775 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 2: the practice facilities and and and chewing someone out. He's 776 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: er Torres. I'm dan byer In for Doug Gottlieb. We 777 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: throw it back on a Thursday all the way to 778 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: this year. That's next