WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Everson Griffen's Impact 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:08.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:19.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:22.720 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World a course at 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:35.040 the Star in Frisco to the sack Bow Scot Day heard. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.360 It's been seventy two days since we've been on air. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:43.000 The first seventy days there's not a whole lot that 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.200 changed for the Dallas Cowboys, But the last seventy two hours, 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.360 oh my gosh, we've got a lot to talk about 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.560 as the podcast make their triumphant return to Dallas Cowboys 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.800 dot Com. Welcome back, everybody. If you're like we are, 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.360 we are so pumped up to bring you Cowboys Talk 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.560 here in training camp twenty twenty as the football season 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.040 right now is happening and there's a lot going on 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.400 leading up to that point. Welcome back in everybody. This 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:13.080 is Talking Cowboys. Kyle Yeoman's alongside Heckma Harrison, Rob Phillips 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.960 and former Dallas Cowboy Isaiah standbacking. Guys. It's so good 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.280 to be back with you. I can't tell you how 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.679 much I missed you over the last seventy two days. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.479 But it's also just compounded itself in the past couple 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:31.120 hours because it's just it's so much excitement around not 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.880 only training camp happening, But guys, the Cowboys got Everson Griffin. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.640 I don't know if you saw that news last night, 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:41.280 but they that up. You didn't, Well, good thing. We're 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.200 going to talk about it over the next hour. But 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.640 Rob kind of break this move down. But the Cowboys 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.560 go out and get one of the best pass rushers 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.600 on the market. Yeah, this one came as a bit 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.560 of a surprise, did I mean it's it's a reported 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.960 one year deal for about six million bucks. And Griffin's 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.440 been on the market for a while as a free 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.320 agent to aid avoided his deal with the Vikings earlier 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.960 this offseason, became a free agent, and then the pandemic hits, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.519 and because of Cota, calls around the league that you know, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.960 you can't have free agent visits, you can't have physicals, 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.880 And he's been out there rumored to maybe go back 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.320 to Minnesota, maybe Seattle. But this is a big stroke 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.120 by the Cowboys in terms of getting some big time 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.960 defensive line depth, a guy that can help fit right 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.919 in at right defensive end seventy four and a half 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.119 career sacks had eight sacks last year. Guys, this reminds 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.760 me a lot of getting Robert Quinn last year, a 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.359 guy in his early thirties on a contract that's not 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.200 hamstringing the salary cap and all of a sudden he 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:43.440 can really help you. Hey, mom, Hey, you guys are 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.399 being way too cool about this. Okay, I'm a say 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.560 you've been missing, you know in action. We're waiting to 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.880 get back to talk football. But listen, I'm a good 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.320 like everybody else is doing on all the other networks, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.519 and they have something to say. They say, listen first, 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:03.239 all right, this is exactly what we needed. This is 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.919 the piece. And it's not to say that Alda Smith 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.840 isn't gonna give us any production. But guys, if you 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.560 think about where Mike Nolan is right now and at 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:17.200 the Star, he has got to be kicking himself with 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.520 all of the guys that he can put in this rotation. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.200 I mean it, just pick somebody, you know, and ever 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.400 Everson Griffin. Look, and they're gonna be the pundits that say, oh, 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.040 we're getting a little older, and I know you're older 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.840 as far as the lineup is concerned. When you look 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.200 at McCoy PO and guys like that. They're in their thirties. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.760 But guys, this is a This is a group of 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.240 guys that have all individually lit it up in the league, 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:47.520 from Tank to PO, to McCoy and now to Everson Griffin. Hey, 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.640 Pro Bowl of All Pro, all of those things we 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.960 have on our front on our front line. Man, did 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.800 we get thick or what? Okay? Champ, come on, man, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.880 you you come off? Hey, I know you got something. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:09.040 Sam Well, I know, man, look at here. All I'm 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.720 gonna say is my no. One he right now, he 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.440 is in a Lego factory and he's a master builder 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.840 because he has all the pieces that he absolutely needs 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.160 to put together a heck of a defense. These guys 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.160 are going to be a probe, all right. Anybody who's 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.040 on the opposite side of the ball does not want 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.160 to deal with these guys. We talked about it prior 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.640 to the break, but we're back now. These guys have 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.880 even and they've improved even more. Right, these guys have somehow, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.000 some way went out and found another pro bowler to 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:40.839 add onto this already ridiculous defense, this already amazing front seven. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.080 And we're gonna pair that up with the secondary that 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.280 we have. Right that now we really said doesn't need 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.240 to have a whole lot of coverage ability, but now 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.040 we're just gonna improve it that much more, right by 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.000 adding to this guy Griffin, who's a physical specimen six 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.800 four two eighty pounds runs of four to six. He's 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.239 the only person aside from Aaron, over the last sixty 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.320 years it has fifty five plus sex and you've got 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.279 to add this guy to this one. They're cheating. Think 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.599 about this. Think about this. Three years ago, he signed 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.800 an extension worth almost sixty million bucks. Okay, but he 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.240 decided to avoid it because he hit certain incentives with 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:19.799 the Vikings, and the Cowboys get him for six million bucks. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:24.440 I mean, look, that is front office gold right there. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.000 I mean, this guy can really come in and help them. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.159 And what Heckma said earlier about and Isaiah. Two guys 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.240 that they've added that have been productive in the league 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:37.280 five Pro Bowlers previously. For these guys that they've made 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.960 Pro Bowls in the past, five of them. And Gerald 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.320 McCoy's prob I think he's the highest paid that they've 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.360 added at three years and eighteen million bucks. They're adding 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.080 talent guys, yes, that are in their thirty some of them, 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.880 but that don't Hamstringer cap and half. Familiarity with guys 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.760 on the coaching staff, Jim Tomsula without his death, George Edwards, 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.480 who's their new senior defensive assistant, Everson Griffin for six years. 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.600 So when you're talking about stepping into a training camp 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:04.920 where you don't have a lot of time to work 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.760 on the field, at least there's familiarity with the guys. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.800 They know what they're getting and they know exactly what 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.800 they're getting with Griffin. And the thing that makes it 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.000 most exciting because of the signing, it's because it's the 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.840 cherry on top. It's not the pie, it's not the 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.080 whip cream. It's the nice little cherry that's placed on top. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:23.840 Because you made all the moves you did in the 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.080 off season. You added Gerald McCoy, you added Dontari Poe, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.280 you added Alden Smith. Hopefully you get Randy Gregory back. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.320 But the big question going into this off season was 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.560 how do you beef up the middle of the defensive 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.400 line and how do you replace Robert Quinn. Well, you 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.160 upgraded the defensive line in the middle of it right 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.880 in that interior with Dontari Poe, with Gerald McCoy, and 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.159 then Neville Gallimore in the draft. Then you turn around 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.920 and you add a guy like Everson Griffin to replace 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.680 Robert Quinn. And for those of you who may not 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.360 think he's an upgrade, let's look at this. Last year, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.600 Griffin had seventy pressures. Quinn, who was arguably the best 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.400 pass rusher on the Cowboys last year, had fifty seven, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.920 so thirteen more than Robert Quinn did. And when you 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.320 talk about run defense, run defense wise, Griffin had a 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.920 sixty three percent or not percent but grade at his 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.800 run defense compared to Robert Quinn, who was at a 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.360 fifty three, so ten points higher. So at least as 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.120 of last year. And if you're watching the film and 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.360 you get a little bit of twenty nineteen Everson Griffin, 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.160 there's no reason not to be excited about this. But heckmon, 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.000 whenever you talk about the size and the speed and 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.960 his ability, what does he bring to this defense that 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.200 they didn't already have previously? Well, well, first of all, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.680 all respect to Robert Quinn and what he did eleven 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.480 sacks and even missing four games last year. I mean you, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.000 he had a monster season. But when you talk Everson 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.440 Griffin and Robert Quinn, it's like talking about two world 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.320 class fighters in different weight classes. It's just different, right. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:55.320 And the deal is is that Everson Griffin's catagorically way 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.720 better against the run than Bobby Robert Quinn ever was okay, 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.720 And so that's what you're getting the amount of moves 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.040 that Everson Griffin has from the outside. Now, we gotta 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.360 talk about technique because the word of twenty twenty is 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.600 gonna be hybrid. And what you can do with Everson 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.280 Griffin his ability to rush from the outside, but also 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.520 because of this size, he can move in. You also 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.720 have the personnel to move guys like let's say Bradley 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.120 and I. He can also move inside. And let's not 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.680 forget about Crawford and the tweeters and the guys that 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.680 you have and certain and I'm just talking about the 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.280 chess game of football and what they're gonna be able 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.960 to do. And so Everson Griffin just gives this defense 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.120 a plethora of different schemes that they can play. And guys, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.160 let's talk about the competition that's gonna be on this 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:47.640 defensive line. When the Cowboys go ones versus ones, twos 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.800 versus twos, My god, man, let's go gold line. When 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:55.240 they go gold line two or days, you'll talk about 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.679 nothing but pressure. The Cowboys are cooking with Chrisco or man, no, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.160 the cow wasn't with with Lord. All right, Lord, all right, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.120 that's what we are right now. And you gotta see it. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:11.719 You're not even a football person if you can't see that. Man, 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.959 We've got legos in cooking and white classes. It's all 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.200 over the place. But you mentioned kind of the battles 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.720 of the offensive line versus the defensive line. They've had 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.360 their battles in the past, and Everson Griffins will won 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.120 a couple of those battles against Tyrant Smith. And just 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.920 a reminder, those two were teammates at USC back in 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.760 the day. Well, Everson Griffin got the best of Tyrant 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.360 Smith this past season. Actually had a sack in that 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.959 ball game, and he had two sacks against Also new 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.120 teammate came Irving whenever they played the Chiefs last year 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.560 as well. But I rewatched that Spinn move last night. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.920 I rewatched that Spinn move they made on Tyrant. That 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.920 was nice. That was nice, And that's that's the thing. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.360 That Robert Quinn brings or not Robert Quinn, excuse me, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.319 Everson Griffin brings to the table. Is is he brings 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.760 so many different moves and he brings that arsenal that 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.760 you want from a pass rusher that maybe you wouldn't 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.439 have had from maybe a Tyrone Crawford on the edge 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.280 or whoever was going to be there. But you mentioned competition, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.199 heck bun and I think there's a lot of tough 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.120 decisions that are about to be made on this defensive line. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.960 And Rob you can speak to this though, But if 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.679 if Mike McCarthy goes to where he wanted to be 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.880 with the six defensive ends and the four interior guys, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:28.600 you got Tank, Griffin, Smith, a Ni Armstrong, maybe Crawford 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.199 on the edge, and then who do you put in 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.760 the middle, Gerald McCoy, Poe, Gallimore, Hill there even and 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.679 then if Gregory's in the mix, then you're gonna have 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.840 to cut one of those names. Yeah, you're right, there's 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.959 there's a lot of competition. I think they got to 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.640 figure out somebody to back up Tank on the left 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:48.840 spot because I think Alvin Smith and Griffin have played 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.400 the right end spot. I think are probably more comfortable there. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.160 They need some depth there. Maybe an I can keep 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.559 over to that side. But you mentioned the depth inside 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.559 Poe and McCoy, and I'll flip around to what Heckma said. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.280 You could kill McCoy out outside too. He can play 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.599 out in whatever you need. It's really good competition. Some 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.959 of those younger defensive ends, it's gonna be harder on them. 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.240 Just remember though, the NFL is allowing sixteen practice squad spots, 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.760 so you know you can still keep rights for guys 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.800 if they pass waivers if you're not able to keep them, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.600 and the way things are structured, let's just be honest. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.000 No in person work so far, it's gonna be harder 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.439 for younger guys to stand out. And it makes the 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.640 Griffin signing to me even better because there's a guy 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.480 that has played for someone on the staff. They know 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.600 what they're getting and from when I heard about him 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.439 last night, his dates absolutely love him. He was a 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.160 leader in Minnesota, and I think he's gonna fit right 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.719 in as a guy, you know, a vocal presence and 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:49.680 a guy that really has has the respect of his teammates. Isaiah, Yeah, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.160 I think I totally agree with you. Man. And the 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.160 thing here is you guys keep attesting to it, and 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.280 you guys keep talking about the versatility. You guys keep 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.160 talking about their ability to be able to change things 0:11:58.280 --> 0:11:59.920 up on that side of the ball. We already know 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.839 of the defensive coordinator likes to mix things up, he 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.840 likes to bring pressure. What this signing allows for, right, 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.520 You guys gotta remember we have two guys that are 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.440 on the pucklist right now, So there's gonna be an 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.240 ability for guys to be able to get in there, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.280 get reps, get games underneath their belting for us to 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.520 be able to use those first games as film study. Right, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.120 we get to use those as film said, to be 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.920 able to get it to find out Ken Gallimar play right. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.839 You know, how are these guys that are feeling on 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.880 the inside, how's that they're gonna do right? Being able 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.839 to rush on the outside against some real competition. So 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.800 we're gonna get a good look at these guys early 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.640 on in the season, and then when everybody is healthy, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.640 they're gonna be able to mix and match. I really 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.559 don't believe that they want guys playing one position. We 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.640 have enough talent on this side of the ball now where. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.800 I think he wants guys coming from all over the place. 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.920 I think every time the offense comes up to the 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.280 line of scrimmage, I think he wants them trying to 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.839 figure out, Okay, who's where. And when you're able to 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.120 do that, you're able to take the offense's mind off 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:50.959 of being able to execute and put their mind on 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.360 trying to figure out exactly what you're doing. That's a 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.080 great point, Isaiah, because every time Mike McCarthy has been 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.559 asked about Cheeto or guys on the d line, or 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.000 even on offense, he was asked about guys on the 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.920 offensive line, he talks about position flex, posive flex, can 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.719 you do more than one job? And that kind of 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.959 speaks to the competition. They what how much can you 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.959 do to contribute to our team? And heckmon was kind 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.000 of talking about that whenever he went into the hybrids talk. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.520 And that's what Mike Nolan brings on the defensive side, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.839 and I think Mike McCarthy wants that to kind of 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.640 transfer over to the offensive side. He's gonna you're gonna 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.160 see that in the wide receiving corps. You're gonna see 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.840 it with Maury Cooper and Michael Gallup and Ceedee Lamb, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.079 all three of those guys who are going to have 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.160 a couple snaps in the slot or they may have 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.679 significant time in the slot. But staying on the defensive sideheck, Moe, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.679 whenever you have a guy like Evers and Griffin who 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.679 can play inside, outside, left or right, and then he 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.920 could maybe even go back in coverage if you really 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.199 needed him to because of the speed that he has. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.480 What kind of flexibility did that open up for not 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.840 only the defensive line, but the front seven as a whole. Yeah. 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.600 Like I said, it's it's all about the chess game 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.760 of football, you know, not tipping your hand. That's the 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.560 thing that you know if if a team can knows 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.680 what you're going to, they're gonna pick you apart. Everson 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.800 Griffith gives the Cowboys that confidence to be able to 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.800 disguise things on the back end. Look at what this 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.559 is gonna do for our secondary that's already you know, Look, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.600 we lost guys to free agency, guys that are now 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.560 we're looking to repurpose and Cheeto Woozier and we're thinking 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.360 about maybe he's a safety. All of those things are relative. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.120 When you shore up your front line. It makes everything 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.400 that you do that much easier, and so also I 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.720 mean not getting ahead of ourselves, but what it does 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.640 for the linebackers, you know, just being able to have 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.960 that girth up front, knowing that your linebackers can easily 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.440 move to the ball, you know, having guys like Done 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:49.440 Terry Poe, now Woods and also McCoy. Look, man, it's 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.600 it's just you know, it's just gonna make us that 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.440 much better as we go along as a team. Rob, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.120 I don't know how you guys feel about the chicken 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.880 or the egg thing with how what's more important pressure 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.240 or coverage on the back end. I've always been a 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.920 front seven, get sacks, get pressure guy, and that, to 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.800 Heckma's point, that helps your secondary. I truly believe if 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.600 the Cowboys can get just in the top ten, top 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.440 half of the takeaway market this year, they're gonna win 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.000 so many football games. They have such an opportunity to 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.400 do that because with the pressure up front, if they 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.359 can if they can build some leads and also defensively 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.160 give some extra possessions to an offense that has just 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.520 a ridiculous amount of options, this team is going to 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.480 be in really good shape, and I think adding a 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.320 guy like Everson Griffin gives you more of an opportunity 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.760 to do that because he is a pressure player and 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.920 he can still do it even at thirty two years old. No, Rob, 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.360 I like what you just said because I think when 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.840 you talk about it in terms of, you know, what's important, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.560 the chicken out of the egg, that's a valid point. 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.680 And I think that the NFL is starting to look 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.360 at those things and how teams that are built struly 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:04.680 from the outside and help your pass rush. When when 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.880 Treyvon Diggs is giving a quarterback fits and having to 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.760 look out there and say, okay, oh, I need to 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:14.400 hold this ball because he's pressing, that gives Everson Griffin 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.880 and our guys internally at the line more opportunity to 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.480 get those sacks. So, I mean, all of those things 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.040 are relative, and that's why you know, obviously football is 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.640 the ultimate team sport. But you're right having those having 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.120 that out on the outside be impactful to make a 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.040 quarterback second guests. Man, I'm telling you, these are things 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.800 that are all going to make the Cowboy's defense that 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.560 much more formatable. And honestly, you know, teams always play 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.120 a mix usually of man and zone and coverage, right, 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.240 but they've added guys that can play that press man 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.040 where you're up on the line of scrimmage. You've got 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.360 to have pass pressure, pass ross pressure to be able 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.880 to do that to not hang your corners out to dry. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.640 And that's that's again that's why this is another another 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.160 reason why this is such a big move, an exciting move, 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.120 because it really shoes up your your depth in your 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:06.119 pass rush. I think it also frees up the secondary 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.560 like Hekma was saying, but it also it just solidifies 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.639 one of those other positions of need. And we were 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.600 talking on the Training Camp kickoff show a couple days 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.680 ago with Bucky Brooks and we asked him who's the 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.639 biggest impact player, who's the under the radar guy that 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.680 you're looking at, And he came out and he said, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.119 I don't have a specific guy. It's whoever starts at 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.440 right defensive in it opens up tank Lawrence. And that's 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.200 the specific side of the this edition that makes me 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.880 so excited is because you can't necessarily double team both 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.320 those guys. And then we're going to talk about the 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.200 linebackers a little bit later on in the show. So 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:44.040 I'll save the how it opens up the linebackers for 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:48.320 the third segment. But it's just it's the perfect move 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.040 for Mike Nolan to have so many guys who can 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.520 do so many things, and then turn around and it 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.960 opens up tank Lawrence. What kind of season is he 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.320 going to have Isaiah that he hasn't had in the past, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.120 just because he has a guy on the other side. Yeah, freedom, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.520 Right when whenever I can tell you, as a former player, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.560 whenever you have guys around you that can make plays 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.879 and the pressure is no longer on solely on you 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.960 to be that guy to have to generate plays left 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:14.879 or right all the times. Right when you have sixty 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.560 snaps a game, if you have five great plays, that's 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.679 a great day. Right Now, you're taking somebody who who 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.240 doesn't have to have it on that pressure on him. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.040 He has other Pro bowlers around him, he has other 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.600 guys that can make plays. It's gonna free him up. 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.320 And you feel like you're a kid in a candy store. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.359 You feel like you're playing with your brothers, like you're 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.119 just playing some street ball. These guys are gonna have 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.320 a heck of a time out there together. And I 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.520 guarantee you that you're probably gonna see Law have one 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.200 of his best seasons, if not his best season he's 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.160 ever had. Isaiah, and I want to add I want 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.040 to add to that by the fact that you've been 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.119 a former player, as you know, being fresh is the thing. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.800 So when you take Tank from let's say fifty eight 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.240 snaps down to forty snaps, absolutely, I mean he is 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.399 like Usain bolt out now because because he's that fresh 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.399 coming off of the edge. The other thing too, is 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.920 he's got now everybody's offseason has been a little different, 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.440 but he didn't get to train like he wanted to 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.000 last year coming off the shoulder surgery that he had 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.960 in April, and I think it affected him early in 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.440 the year at least in terms of RUSS technique, all 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.359 those things. He doesn't have that issue this year and 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.600 he should be better for that should be and I 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.359 think it's gonna make a big enough impact. And one 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.880 final thing before we end up, I guess going into 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.879 this first break in this next segment, but the fact 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.040 that the off season has been what it has been. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.520 Whenever you get a new head coach like Mike McCarthy, 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.320 you're able to have the draft that this front office 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.360 has had, and then you're able to have a free 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.439 agency period where you add so much talent, the expectations 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.480 are going to be high. But it doesn't always happen 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.520 like this. It doesn't always happen as a Cowboys fan 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.399 to where oh, this is our year. You hear that 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.920 all the time year to year, and sometimes it's a 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.840 little bit facetious. It may not be exactly what you're 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.480 saying it's going to be. But this year's it just 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.159 feels a little bit different because you're not always is 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:01.760 going to be on the same page as a fan 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.560 base and as a front office. And Jerry came out 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.320 yesterday in the press conference, it said, it's about our fans. 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.920 Oh it's it's most important thing is our fans. They're 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.720 doing that right now. They're showing it that actions speak 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.320 loud of their words, because the fans are calling for, hey, 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.360 let's get a receiver at seventeen. If somebody falls, well, 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:23.840