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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frattle. We are

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Speaker 2: Comedy Alive from the Fox Sports Radio compound here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas, and we'll take you up to three am Pacific,

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Speaker 2: six am Eastern. I think I've probably got about eight

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Speaker 2: into four. We're gonna get to all of it. Any

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Speaker 2: big stories that I might have missed. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: let me let me just start by saying this, We've

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Speaker 2: got some good news and we've got some bad news. Well,

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Speaker 2: the good news is, you see, the biggest saga facing

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Speaker 2: America since John Benet, Ramsey, Tanya Harding and the Lindberg

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Speaker 2: Baby has in fact now been reconciled. Shudor Sanders was drafted.

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Speaker 2: Now let me start by saying, I like Shdoor Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's going to translate to the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and I'll bring plenty of receipts. I covered the Lions

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Speaker 2: for fourteen years ten in an official capacity, covered drafts

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Speaker 2: pre and posed for tenn I saw a lot, talked

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Speaker 2: a lot, and yes, I've been talking a lot to

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Speaker 2: a lot of people, not just this week, but for months.

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Speaker 2: Sanders did have to wait five rounds before getting drafted.

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Speaker 2: You know how they do those winners and losers draft articles.

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Speaker 2: What if Sanders falls into both categories, and I'll explain

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Speaker 2: the good dudes again again. He had to wait five

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Speaker 2: rounds before getting drafted, And the irony is he's not

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Speaker 2: in a bad spot all things considered. He's got a

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Speaker 2: realistic chance to make a name for himself with the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Will he beat out Joe Flacco? No, he will not

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Speaker 2: beat out Joe Flacco. Will he beat out Kenny Pickett? No,

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Speaker 2: he will not beat out Kenny Pickett. Deshaun Watson at

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Speaker 2: this point, you might as well just trade Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 2: for a horse and did shoot the horse. I don't

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Speaker 2: really mean that I'm doing radio, Okay, I don't really

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Speaker 2: mean that. Horse lovers. I love horses. I love mister Red,

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Speaker 2: I love the mall. Okay, work with me. We're just

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Speaker 2: having a little fun here on a Saturday night, Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: depending on where you may be listening. So, Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 2: I think in Shudoor Sanders will ballot out for some

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Speaker 2: sort of role on that team. But in the best

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Speaker 2: case scenario, Sanders somehow finds his way in the field

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Speaker 2: this year, maybe even starts a game. We'll see the

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Speaker 2: worst case scenario, they're not gonna cut him, but he

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Speaker 2: might be on the bench, but he'll get to learn

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco knows a thing or two. Okay, laugh, clown laughed,

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco can play. The likelihood though, of a you know,

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Speaker 2: a guy like Joe Flacco make it to the entire

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Speaker 2: season without so much as a hangnail is not likely.

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Speaker 2: So Sanders is gonna get a chance, which is all

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Speaker 2: you can ask for in life, an opportunity, and you

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Speaker 2: make the most of your opportunity, which he said he

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Speaker 2: would do. Now the bad news, Yes, the good news

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Speaker 2: Shodor Sanders was drafted, But the bad news is he

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Speaker 2: basically lost out on about thirteen million dollars. See if

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Speaker 2: Shador Sanders had been taken in the first round, let's

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Speaker 2: say what the twenty first pick, he would have gotten

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Speaker 2: a rookie contract with about eighteen million dollars. Instead, he

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Speaker 2: getting a four year deal that's worth roughly five million,

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Speaker 2: which is a million less than he made his nil

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Speaker 2: deal last year at Colorado. Also, he got drafted. You

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Speaker 2: tell me, you tell me if this is a feel

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Speaker 2: good moment, it is, but it is it. He got

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Speaker 2: drafted by a team that passed him over six times

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Speaker 2: before they actually decided to take him. All right, that happens, well,

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Speaker 2: does it? But that wouldn't be the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: And still not the end of the world. Wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: so bad if he'd been the only quarterback the Browns drafted.

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Speaker 2: But hell, they actually took one before, when they selected

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel lot of Oregon at ninety fourth overall. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why everybody's been pissing all over Dylan Gabriel today.

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Speaker 2: He's small. No, he's not. He's a good player. He's

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Speaker 2: He went into ann Arbor and picked apart that Wolverine defense.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Shudor Sanders would have done that. So

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Speaker 2: Browns have. What are you gonna do? I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: Who else would you rather have than Cleveland on Hard Knocks?

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Speaker 2: All right, I've said my piece. Well let's get to

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Speaker 2: the elephant in the room. Why the slide? All right?

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Speaker 2: I live in Vegas. I know a year last year,

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Speaker 2: odds on favorite to be the first player picked overall.

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Speaker 2: Why that I meant nothing that in fifty cents, I'll

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Speaker 2: get you a cup of coffee Crystal Burger. That's a

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Speaker 2: And look, if someone's got better data than me, feel

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Speaker 2: free to tweet, aut in he or whatever, do whatever

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Speaker 2: What if I told you I was told by a

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Speaker 2: these pre workouts and et cetera. That again, that in

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Speaker 2: and of itself doesn't matter. He could still be a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback. I'd run a four eight to forty.

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Speaker 2: But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Why the slide?

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Speaker 2: This is the story. What in the hell happened here

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Speaker 2: that caused everybody, from mel Kuiper to the to President

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Speaker 2: Trump to lose? Everybody weighted on this is if it

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Speaker 2: was some god given right that Shudor Sanders has to

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Speaker 2: said it, another person repeated it. The notion he was

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Speaker 2: ever going to be drafted second or third overall is preposterous.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. There are objective truths and there are personal feelings.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna deal with facts tonight, not feelings. And let

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Speaker 2: me get something else off my chest while I'm at it,

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Speaker 2: because there was so much michigas after Friday's draft, when

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Speaker 2: but Friday, oh my god, the teeth gnashing there must

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Speaker 2: be conspiracy. There must be collusions. Well, Sue, let's call

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Speaker 2: Johnny cochrane. We can't have this. He's got a god.

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Speaker 2: They've been right to be drafted high. We all said

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Speaker 2: Sanders would be a top ten selection. Again, I'll repeat

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Speaker 2: where Sanders, Shiloh Sanders, Dion Sanders, Deon Sanders, Junior Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 2: PR team. You know, Chador had opportunities at the Shrine

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Speaker 2: and he opted against both. You know what, you don't

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Speaker 2: hide strength in life. Instead, he was claiming his college

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Speaker 2: tape was all NFL teams needed to see. Now, one

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Speaker 2: of the things they kept coming up last night was, oh, Hooker,

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Speaker 2: thirty two teams passed at him three rounds in a row. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw my first flag. Thirty two teams did

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Speaker 2: take a closer look, at least twenty of those thirty

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Speaker 2: two teams were not in the market for a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Not up in here, not here, no way. Maybe twelve,

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Speaker 2: twelve teams passed on them the first three rounds, the

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Speaker 2: not thirty two. So lose that narrative because it's false.

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Speaker 2: It's playing fast and loose with the truth. One team

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Speaker 2: passed on them six times, they ended up drafting them.

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Speaker 2: The second thing is, and this was coming out of

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Speaker 2: but these are guys I think to do a clean

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Speaker 2: it's personal, Well now it's personal. Yeah, it must say

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Speaker 2: it's personal. Hello, it's always personal. As someone who covered

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Speaker 2: foot Look, you have no idea to scrutiny they put

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Speaker 2: these guys through. You know, Shdarra Sanders may never start

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Speaker 2: a game in the NFL. He's gonna get five million bucks. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the one Am hour, I'm going to share with you

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Speaker 2: exactly how the NFL evaluates draft prospects. And a lot

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Speaker 2: of it is scouting in film reviews. A lot of

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Speaker 2: it's the combine which he led them not to go

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Speaker 2: to Schador character background and say and I know, shoot,

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Speaker 2: door has never been in trouble. Whoop? Do you damn?

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Speaker 2: Is that the new standard? Well, it has never been

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Speaker 2: to go back to what I said. It's always personal.

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Speaker 2: It's always personal. You get to know these guys and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you how personal it is. I believe it

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Speaker 2: a defensive player. Wait for it, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 2: the reason. This is the level of scrutiny. And while

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Speaker 2: it's always personal, the Lions passed on in the two

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Speaker 2: because the player had wait for it, bad breath, true

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Speaker 2: down that road. So the truth of the matter is

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Speaker 2: in the first place. The only people are not in cake.

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Speaker 2: That's bad English. The slide happened because the notion that

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Speaker 2: he would be a top five or top ten. Nobody

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Speaker 2: I talked to connected to the NFL who didn't have

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Speaker 2: an agenda did not great him as a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: And if you've listened to my show the last six weeks,

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Speaker 2: I've said that. I've said, look, he didn't have that

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Speaker 2: one elite tool, he doesn't have that one superpower. There

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Speaker 2: are a lot of other things I'm not going to break.

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Speaker 2: And you know what he's going to get on the field. Good.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he got drafted. Don't tell me, show me

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Speaker 2: all right. Shador thought all NFL teams needed to see

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Speaker 2: was his college table. Turned out it wasn't. And frankly,

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Speaker 2: I will say this about Shudor his approach to the

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Speaker 2: pre draft process should be a lesson and what not

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Speaker 2: to do for future quarterbacks. You know, by the way,

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Speaker 2: for those who thought the NFL was teaching Shudor a lesson,

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Speaker 2: now they don't teach lessons. They want too busy trying

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Speaker 2: to win games. If you think there was collusion, if

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Speaker 2: These owners can't agree where to go for lunch, much

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Speaker 2: less have somebody dictate, dictate one of these guys dictate

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Speaker 2: or who not to take. Okay, this though, should be

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Speaker 5: a trickle down effect that because of the fact that

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Speaker 5: rightfully so, he was gained a lot of the defensive

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Speaker 5: emphasis the Warriors had to play and b I think

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Speaker 5: the Rockets made the calculation that, you know, what are

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Speaker 5: the percentages, what are the odds of putting one defender

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Speaker 5: on Steph Curry and how much held defeat them versus

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Speaker 5: darn some of his team it's to make open shots. Now.

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Speaker 5: You know, they rose to the moment, but I think

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Speaker 5: they calculated that if they didn't put enough defensive pressure

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Speaker 5: on Steph, maybe he goes off for fifty plus. But

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Speaker 5: you know, the Warriors, to their credit, they rose to

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Speaker 5: that moment. And it also illustrated something that if Jimmy

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Speaker 5: Butler is back now they're even more dangerous because Steph

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Speaker 5: Curry was having this kind of you know, benefit of

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Speaker 5: not always having to carry the workload. The fact that

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Speaker 5: Jimmy's getting free throws the faculty's game to the rim.

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Speaker 5: It's additional scoring punch. It's also freeing help, freeing him

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Speaker 5: up for more open looks. But with or without Jimmy,

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Speaker 5: maybe that can still be a benefit that Steph can

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Speaker 5: enjoy because his other teammates arise at the moment. As

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Speaker 5: we saw in this regular season, that wasn't always sustainable,

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Speaker 5: hence why the Warriors got Jimmy Butler. But in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: you know, sometimes it's rhnalin rush and those battle tests

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Speaker 5: and moments bring out the best and players, and we

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Speaker 5: saw that in Game three for the Warriors, tied.

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Speaker 2: With Mark Medina Medina Magic. Every Saturday night here on

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, All Things NBA, Marcus Are, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, NBA Guru. All right, let's jump to the

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Speaker 2: tea Wolves and Lakers. This is just absolute much must

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Speaker 2: watch TV for me on Sunday, and I want to

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Speaker 2: give you two areas of concern for the Lakers while

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Speaker 2: making no prediction about Sunday's game. We talked about this

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Speaker 2: when we signed off last Saturday. There's some carryover things

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned about if you're a Lakers fan. The Wolves

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Speaker 2: dominated points in the paint Friday Night, fifty six to

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Speaker 2: twenty six. They only had eleven turnovers to the Lakers nineteen.

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00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: They doubled on fast break points. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: what's the latest on Luca and the stomach flu because

464
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Speaker 2: clearly it was bothering him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, a few things unpacked. What you asked about

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Speaker 5: Luca doctors. He's going to play now, does that mean

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Speaker 5: he's going to be effective? We don't know. He wasn't

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Speaker 5: effective in games. He gut it out and try to compete,

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Speaker 5: but he didn't shoot the ball well. Seventeen point six

470
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Speaker 5: or sixteen shooting. Yeah, he had eight seven rebounds. They

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Speaker 5: also had five turnovers. He was feeling so ill that

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Speaker 5: he couldn't even start the second half, and so you

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Speaker 5: would think having an extra day to recover, you know,

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Speaker 5: do whatever you needed to do to get this bug

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Speaker 5: out of your system. He'll do. But that's not a guarantee.

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Speaker 5: The other part I think is even more troubling because

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Speaker 5: that's been beyond one game. The defensive issues. They haven't

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Speaker 5: been able to defend on the perimeter, they haven't been

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Speaker 5: able to defend in the paint, they haven't been able

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Speaker 5: to take care of the ball route and that has

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Speaker 5: resulted in the world's getting easy baskets, and you and

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Speaker 5: I have discussed the Lakers here. I have multiple times

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Speaker 5: about their defense. I always thought that their defense wasn't

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Speaker 5: sustainable because they're getting by on effort more than talent

485
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Speaker 5: post Andy Davis. But I think the disappointing thing with

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Speaker 5: the Lakers so far in the playoffs is, I want

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Speaker 5: to be clear, they are. It's not like they're not

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Speaker 5: giving effort, but I don't see the same kind of

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Speaker 5: focused intensity that they had in the regular season when

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Speaker 5: it comes to defense. And usually it's an other way around,

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Speaker 5: where in the playoffs you start dialing up as far

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Speaker 5: as attention to detail, and I just haven't seen that defensively,

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Speaker 5: and that's really what's going to make or break whether

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Speaker 5: they can get in the first round, because we've seen

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Speaker 5: Lebron James, even at forty years old, he's going to

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Speaker 5: have good nights, but that's not enough if they don't

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Speaker 5: defend well.

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Speaker 2: Mark. There's another aspect of this series I want to

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Speaker 2: put on the table that I don't think is being

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Speaker 2: talked about. The first two games, both teams had three

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Speaker 2: days rest, and then they had three days rest between

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Speaker 2: Games two and three, but all of a sudden you

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Speaker 2: got Friday night, and Game four is a quick turnaround,

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00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: you get a two thirty local tip time on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Here's the question, how much gas in the tank did

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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, Luka Doncic and Lebron James burn up on

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Speaker 2: Friday night? And how much do they have left? They

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00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: all played more than forty minutes. And to your point

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Speaker 2: about Luca, it wasn't just his offensive numbers. You could

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Speaker 2: see he was really sick. I watched you moving without

511
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Speaker 2: the ball. He looked like he was running in quicksand so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot's unpacked there. But your thoughts, and I'm going

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Speaker 2: to ask for a prediction on who you think prevails Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as far as you know the quick turnaround, I mean,

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Speaker 5: Aunston Reeves is a young player, so you know whether

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Speaker 5: he performs well or he struggles. I don't think it's

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Speaker 5: going to have to do with the fact that he's

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Speaker 5: fatigued or not. It's just that he's got to be

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Speaker 5: more consistent. It's an execution thing. I think the short

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Speaker 5: turnaround is more of a concern with Lebron James and

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Speaker 5: Luka doncicch for Luca because of what I was mentioning,

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Speaker 5: he still hasn't fully recovered from his stomach bug. You know,

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Speaker 5: as we could probably all attest. Sometimes all it takes

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00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 5: is a day for everything to get out of your system.

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Speaker 5: But it's also not guaranteed. With Lebron James, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's always day to day. I mean, he is very

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Speaker 5: capable of having the kind of knights that he had

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Speaker 5: in Game three, where he's getting thirty eight points, ten rebounds.

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Speaker 5: Forces define father time, but father time also has a

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Speaker 5: way of knocking on the door at the most inopportune moments.

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Speaker 5: And so I think it's also very telling that ever

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Speaker 5: since the playoffs started, when reporters have asked him how

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 5: is he feeling, you know, with his health and overcoming

534
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: the left growing injury late in the season, all he

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Speaker 5: says is I'm available. You know what that means, Bernie,

536
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Speaker 5: He's at fully one hundred percent. He's just getting by

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00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 5: because that's what he does. So yeah, it's very much concerning.

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Speaker 5: And so what my prediction is is I think the

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00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: Worlds are in control of the series, and I think

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Speaker 5: that they will win Sunday. I thought that I thought

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Speaker 5: that whoever won Game three would wind up winning the series,

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Speaker 5: and here we are, so anything can happen here. I

543
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: could be proven wrong, but so far the Wolves are

544
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 5: showing a lot more positive trends than the Lakers are.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Lebron's being fitted for a cast. Remember that series

546
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: a few years ago when they lost, and all of

547
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: a sudden, he's at a press conference with a cast.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I have to take my gratuitous shot at

549
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Speaker 2: Lebron every time we talk.

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Speaker 5: No, I expect your Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I don't forget to try to semi boneless spaghetti. I'm

552
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Speaker 2: near all week. Look, you've had your finger on the

553
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Speaker 2: pulse of this team all year, and the one thing

554
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Speaker 2: you said is it's fluid. So what it surprised me

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Speaker 2: if the Lakers came out on Sunday and flex the

556
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: muscle in one by eight. No, it wouldn't. There's just

557
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: some troubling signs, so Sunday would be a referendum. And

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have one last question on the Lakers that

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00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: might bring down the house. But first I want to

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Speaker 2: switch gears, uh and put a Kappa on Nico in Dallas?

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Speaker 2: Why did he have this press conference and say, gee,

562
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Speaker 2: I didn't really realize how much I love Luca. Look

563
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: all he's got to say is one thing I was

564
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: talking about, Buddy Jay ship about this. Just tell the truth.

565
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: I did not want to pay this guy three undred

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Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars. That's my right. This is my team,

567
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Speaker 2: this is how we roll. I've been with him three

568
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: or four years, all due respect, God bless him. I

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00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: don't want to pay him three hundred and fifty million.

570
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: End the story. But he keeps on dragging this out

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Speaker 2: and dredging it up, and I don't know what fruitful

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Speaker 2: purpose it serves. Am I reading that wrong?

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Speaker 5: You're reading some things right. I think you're reading something's wrong.

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Speaker 5: As far as like why he had this press conference, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: teams typically always the front office always has ended the

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Speaker 5: season media availability, so that's nothing different. I think the

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Speaker 5: more puzzling part is the previous press conference he had

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Speaker 5: before the season even ended, on the eve of their

579
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: playing tournament, where they had all these weird parameters of

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00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: no cameras allowed and initially no recording devices allowed. At

581
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Speaker 5: least later on the recording devices were allowed. You know,

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Speaker 5: the thing that was really foot in the mouth is

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Speaker 5: what you were saying that, you know, Nico admitting Oh,

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Speaker 5: he had no idea that you know there would be

585
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 5: such a negative backlash among fans. I mean, how can

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00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: you not realize that a homegrown NBA superstar is going

587
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 5: to be beloved. That's number one. Number two though, the

588
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: idea of just saying it's just fessing up and now

589
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: we don't want to pay him, I think that that

590
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 5: can also wreak bad optics that you know, this team

591
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 5: is cheap and they don't want to spend blah blah blah.

592
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 5: All they need to do is think and concede that

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Speaker 5: Luka Doncis is a great player and there are a

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Speaker 5: lot of tough decisions to be made, but they felt

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00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 5: that short and long term this was the best decision

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Speaker 5: moving forward and leave it at the end of that.

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Speaker 5: They don't need to get into the negative parts of

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Speaker 5: his conditioning on or off the record, or even defend

599
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 5: the trade now because the injuries are the injuries that

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00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 5: he should just say, we may what we felt was

601
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Speaker 5: the best decision at the time, and obviously it's been

602
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 5: tough now, but we feel that long term it's going

603
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: to play out to our advantage and that's all he

604
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 5: needs to do. He shouldn't get into we don't want

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00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: to pay him because that just looks bad to the

606
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 5: paying customers about Hey, this organization doesn't want to spend money.

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Speaker 2: And I've certainly in my years in Detroit and need

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Speaker 2: heared you covering U and OV covered many of those

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Speaker 2: end of the season press conferences. I just think, how

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Speaker 2: about looking forward instead of backward and stop regurgitating this Mark.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to save my Lakers question for next week.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty powerful. Let's see if they win this series

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00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: or not, and it'll have more context. But already looking

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Speaker 2: forward to next week.

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Speaker 5: Mark, all right, Bud, looking forward to it. I'm sure

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Speaker 5: we'll talk about Bronnie James as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, an omission, an air of omission on my part.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bud, have a good week, have a good

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00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to analyze anymore. We can touch on

646
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: it and why the slide so on and so forth.

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00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: But if you saw mel Kiper globalistic, it's not the

648
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: first time I has done this. He believes in his observations,

649
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: in his research, and he stands by them. And so

650
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: now this is the question I'm putting out to the callers,

651
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: because Chador has a real opportunity to redeem himself, as

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00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: it were. Incredibly, he's now joined the likes of Brett

653
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: Favre and Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady and Dan Marino

654
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: who five other quarterbacks are drafted ahead of him as well,

655
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: and the legendary Warren Moon, who, for my money, had

656
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: the greatest injustice in the history of the NFL imposed

657
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: upon him in nineteen seventy eight. Absolute crime. And someday

658
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: I'll tell the story on the air. But what a joke.

659
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is all those players were

660
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: passed over or delayed their their selections were delayed, and

661
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: mel Kiper said, they all went on and proved him wrong.

662
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: Fall Farv won a Super Bowl, Rogers won a Super Bowl.

663
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: Brady I think he won a Super Bowl. They didn't

664
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: have to check. Dan Marino got through Super Bowl. But

665
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: you know, redefined passing in the NFL in the eighties,

666
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: and of course Roar and Rune legend. Okay, and they're

667
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: not the only ones that were overlooked as it were,

668
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: or passed over or slid in the draft. So do

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Speaker 2: you expect shoudor Sanders to take this torch and carry

670
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: it and join the likes Afar, Rogers, Brady Marino, et cetera,

671
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: Warren Moon and prove whatever dowters he had wrong, get

672
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: Cleveland to the playoffs, whatever the case may be. He

673
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: doesn't have to win a super Bowl to redeem himself.

674
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: Let's just see what kind of career he has. But

675
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is the way this happened today,

676
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: slid all the way to one forty four, by the way,

677
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: in the odd in the odd coincidence, Sam Howell was

678
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: also drafted one forty four. Who just acquired him well,

679
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: a team that needed a quarterback Minnesota. I'll be damn

680
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: can't make this stuff up. So I want to hear

681
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: from you on Shudor. Okay, will he? Will he come

682
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: back and have the last laugh? As mel Kuiper said,

683
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: We've got people tweeting people are gonna regret not taking Shador.

684
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: Let's see if they're right. I want to hear from

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00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: the callers eight seven, seven, nine to nine on Fox

686
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: eight seven, seven, nine, nine, sixty six, three sixty nine.

687
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: What kind of career do you predict for Shador Sanders.

688
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be another Brett Favre or is he

689
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: gonna be Giovanni Carmazzi? Google it. The second thing is

690
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: it was Dion really the reason teams avoided him. I'm

691
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: not buying that these are NFL franchise I'm not worried

692
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 2: about Dion now. One of their issues is the only

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00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: coach Shoodor's ever played for is Dion. He didn't have

694
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: to beat anybody out in high school, he didn't have

695
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 2: to beat anybody out at Jackson State, and he didn't

696
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: have to beat anybody out of car Colorado. Be a

697
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: little different in the NFL. Now, he did have one

698
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 2: scholarship offer to Florida Atlantic, intended not to go elected,

699
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: not to go Okay, so look, you know where I'm

700
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: going with this. Will as mel Kuiper said, should or

701
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: prove his doubters wrong. You know where I'm going with that. Also,

702
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: as part of the reason for this slide was it Dion.

703
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm not really buying that it might have been a

704
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: factor for some teams that I'm having a hard time

705
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: and part B why not his partner in Colorado, Travis Hunter.

706
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Speaker 2: Will they allow him to go both ways? In Jacksonville?

707
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Should they allow him to go both ways? I say yes?

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00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: How does it manifest itself as a practical matter. You're

709
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: not going to play one hundred and sixty snaps, that's stupid.

710
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna be logistical issues because every week in the

711
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: NFL you install a new defensive game plan and his

712
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: scheme with different personnel groupings. He's gonna have you. He

713
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: can't climb two mounds at the same time. But I

714
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: would playhim full time on defense, and then I would

715
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: create and packages for him on offense. You know, maybe

716
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: get on the field sixteen to twenty snaps on offense.

717
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: That the way you're getting the best of both worlds. Hey,

718
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: late in the game, you got to move the change.

719
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: You're in the red zone. I'll tell you what you're

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00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: on offense, chardor check that Travis would be nice to

721
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: have in the field, wouldn't instead of standing on the sidelines. Meanwhile,

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00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: maybe you're trying to hold a three point lead late

723
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: in the game and third and seven I think you

724
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: want Travis locking down one of their best receivers. So

725
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the shaudor Travis show tonight. Will Shudorf Sanders,

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00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: as mel Kiper said, redeem himself and have all these

727
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: teams regret not taking What kind of careers are you

728
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: gonna have? Also? Was Dion really part of the reason

729
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: or the reason? Chador fell? I want to get your

730
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: thoughts and will Travis get to go both ways in

731
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: the NFL? I say they should let them how they

732
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: do it, that's a different story. Eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 2: nine on Fox eight seven seven nine to nine six

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Speaker 2: six three six y nine. The callers, you've been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it again tonight. Dial them up. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frauler Show that our Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: a either that sensational or that polarizing, however you want

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Speaker 2: to characterize it. Tonight might be one of those nights,

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Speaker 2: so we do want to hear from all of you. Yep,

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Speaker 2: we go. You know it's going to be a rockets

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Speaker 2: be in that hour when Jim from Massachusetts leads us

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Speaker 2: off with a Ricky Henderson lead off home run. Jim,

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Speaker 2: you've got the floor. You know where to take it.

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Speaker 5: Bernie my man. Hey, the thing with Shaka.

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00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 6: You know, hey, he got drafted where he got drafted.

761
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people, you know, up front offices,

762
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 6: it's not about Dion because a lot of them weren't

763
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Speaker 6: around when.

764
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 5: Dion was around.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think it has so much to do

766
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 6: with his dad I think they got the drift on Shaka,

767
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 6: that he's a little bit of a head case, you know,

768
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 6: a little bit of privilege and in that and they

769
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Speaker 6: just didn't want to invest the money in the early

770
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Speaker 6: rounds to pay him and see if he becomes a

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Speaker 6: star in the later rounds. Now, you look, it doesn't

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Speaker 6: matter when you got drafted.

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00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 5: You got drafted.

774
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's the reason I sayed, right.

775
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 6: The reason I say that is like, look at Mike Piazza.

776
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 6: He got drafted two hundred and sixty seventh so baseball

777
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 6: and he's in the Hall. You know, it's all about

778
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 6: what you make. You get the opportunity, Let's see what

779
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 6: you make.

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Speaker 7: Make it up.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think Dion will Or with Holmia

782
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: there's a Freudian slip. What do you think shud Or

783
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: will do with his opportunity, As mal Kiper said, will

784
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: he prove teams wrong? Will he make teams regret not

785
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: taking him? Will he get Cleveland to the Promised Land?

786
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 6: I think I think he'll be a decent quarterback. I

787
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 6: think he'll he'll show teams that they missed on him.

788
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 6: But Bertie football is the is the worst of all sports.

789
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 6: I mean, your career could be over in practice in

790
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 6: one play. So it's you know, all those guys they

791
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 6: just roll the dice. But I just think that he's

792
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: just a little bit too much of a head case.

793
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Speaker 6: He grew up in privilege. I mean, there's nothing wrong

794
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Speaker 6: with that, but I just I think that's what turned

795
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 6: most of the franchise in the way. But like you said,

796
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 6: there's only ten teams out of thirty two looking for

797
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Speaker 6: a quarterback. So you know, we'll say, you know, it'll

798
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Speaker 6: be it'll be a good story, you know.

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Speaker 2: A great story. By the way, real quickly. Will Jacksonville

800
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Speaker 2: let Travis play both ways?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I think you had the best analogy on that.

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00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 6: I think defense wins games. I think that's where they're

803
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 6: gonna play him, and when any of those receivers need

804
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 6: a spot breath, you know, they're gonna pop him in

805
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 6: there and he's gonna make some place. You know. I

806
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 6: think that that was the that was the best steel

807
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 6: in the draft, moving up and doing that. I don't

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Speaker 6: know what Cleveland has in the front front office. I mean,

809
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 6: those got Jacksonville got in the front office. But I

810
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 6: think that was a diamond in the rough they got there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know all right, Bell, all right, Jim, appreciate

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Speaker 2: you as always. Stephen, Kansas City. Welcome back in, Buddy,

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Bernie Frader Show.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Bernie, good to talk to you to night.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 8: I mean on this subject, there's probably gonna be movies

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Speaker 8: and TV shows and magazine.

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Speaker 5: Articulture written about this.

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Speaker 8: Here's what I what I think happened is that I

820
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Speaker 8: think that the old man has nothing to do with Dion.

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Speaker 8: I don't think Dion even cares. I mean, I honestly,

822
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Speaker 8: he always had a wink in his eye with the

823
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 8: swag and everything, and people people loved him for it.

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Speaker 8: You can tell by those commercials with Nick Saban he's

825
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 8: still he's still popular. That what happened was is I

826
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 8: think the kid thought that he could go to Pittsburgh

827
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Speaker 8: or Cleveland or somewhere better if he kind of, you know,

828
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 8: went to that interview and then showed him up a

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Speaker 8: little bit, and and we find out what happens when

830
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 8: you don't present yourself, you know, truthfully, or will blow

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Speaker 8: him off or whatever. The kid learned a valuable lesson,

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Speaker 8: and I think he's I think he's taking it. He's

833
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 8: taking it well. Now he may not ever be a great,

834
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 8: a truly great, great player. But this may be more

835
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Speaker 8: valuable than than any sort of millions. You know that

836
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 8: that sort of like stay stay humble etho, that anybody

837
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 8: can be knocked down, anybody doesn't matter who you are,

838
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 8: who your daddy is. Anybody can be can be knocked

839
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Speaker 8: down and knocked down a few pegs. And I think

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Speaker 8: that's exactly what happened today.

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Speaker 2: Or all right, So the bottom line is real quickly,

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Speaker 2: do you think he goes on as mel Kiper said,

843
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Speaker 2: does your door go on to you know, make many

844
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Speaker 2: teams regret not taking him.

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Speaker 8: I think he's a he's a he could be a

846
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 8: good quarterback. He could be an average quarterback. I just

847
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 8: don't want him. I just I think this is great.

848
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Speaker 8: I mean, I think this is all these all these

849
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 8: pundits are acting like this is this is terrible. I

850
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 8: wish they would have done this to Eli Manning when

851
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Speaker 8: he pulled the pulled that big move with his dad.

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Speaker 8: I wish they would have done the same thing. You

853
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 8: gotta you gotta knock these kids down a few pigs

854
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 8: when they get in the league, and the NBA makes

855
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 8: them carry luggage. So so I mean I'm all for

856
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 8: I'm all for this, and and let me tell you

857
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 8: about Travis Hunter. I mean, the rumor was in Colorado

858
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 8: spring game. This guy is going to change football forever.

859
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 8: So so just just keep it. Keep an eye on

860
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 8: this guy. He is he is, he is fantastic. I mean,

861
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 8: I think it's it's going to be something completely unexpected

862
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 8: for most people to see a real a real two

863
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 8: way player. It's kind of ironic that his coach was

864
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 8: was Prime Time. But yeah, I've got nothing against the kid.

865
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 8: I think Shador is a nice is going to be

866
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 8: a perfectly nice young man. But sometimes it's just good

867
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 8: to slap these kids down a few notches. You know.

868
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 8: It makes them keep the humble, keeps some, keep some

869
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 8: better personal. I mean, swag does not get you in

870
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame. You know, that's just that's just

871
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 8: how most old guys will see it. You know, that's

872
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 8: why this is such an interesting topic, because you know,

873
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 8: it's sort of new generation versus old generation. I think

874
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 8: the old the old generation one today.

875
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for checking in, buddy, I always appreciate

876
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: your perspectives. I don't believe that the NFL had intended

877
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: to slap him down or teach him a lesson. They

878
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: got bigger fish to fry than that. I think that

879
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: ended up being somewhat the byproduct, and this could be

880
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: a blessing in disguise. Look when you go to a team.

881
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: I've said this about Dan Moreno. He benefited tremendously from

882
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: being taken six in nineteen eighty three because he went

883
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: to a team, the Miami Dolphins, who'd been in the

884
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: Super Bowl the year before, so she was surrounded by

885
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: a great roster. He went to play for John don Shula,

886
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: a true quarterback whisperer, and because he fell so far,

887
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: the expectations were much lower and he set the world

888
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: on fire. So let's see if Shaduur has a similar career.

889
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 2: Tony and Los Angeles. Welcome in, Tony. How you doing, Buddy?

890
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 10: Hey Bernie. If the Pac twelve had stayed intact, Shadur

891
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 10: would have been exposed against Oregon, Washington and Utah and

892
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 10: maybe someone else. And if he had gone to the

893
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 10: Big Ten with the big the teams that went to

894
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 10: the Big Ten, he would have been really exposed. So

895
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 10: who were the best teams that he played against last year?

896
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 10: And how well did he do against him.

897
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: No, you're no argument, no argument. Oregon spanked him. I

898
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: mean North Dakota State could have beat him by you

899
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: pushed him around the field, Kansas State. I've had some

900
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: of those same thoughts, Tony, So is that is that

901
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: your way of saying, I want to steal your thunder?

902
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Keep?

903
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 10: How many of how many of those teams have NFL

904
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 10: level defensive players that are gonna go like, hardly any

905
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 10: compared to Oregon, Washington, Utah and Big ten defensive.

906
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: Players, Tony, if if, if you've listened to my show,

907
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: particularly the past six weeks, I've said this objectively, not subjectively,

908
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 2: because I don't care about shoot or Sanders. If succeed,

909
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: If he succeeds, wonderful, that's good for our business. If

910
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: he fails, he joins the other trash heap of a

911
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: thousand stories from the Naked City. I have said for

912
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: weeks I wouldn't grade him as a first round pick

913
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: for multiple reasons. Tony, you got the floor? Is he

914
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: gonna prove everybody wrong or not?

915
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 10: I think the fix was in the Cleveland owners told

916
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 10: everybody off Sanders. We want him, and we're gonna wait

917
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 10: a long time. So we don't have to pay him

918
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 10: luck because he makes a lot of niol.

919
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: More are too smart for that man. There is no

920
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 2: there's no collusion in the NFL. These guys can't even

921
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: agree to go for a lunch. Okay, I don't mean

922
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: to shoot shoot you down there, big fel. I love

923
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: their calls, all right, Travis Hunter? Is he gonna play

924
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: both ways?

925
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 10: I would I would say yes.

926
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: I would say, hey, Tony, listen, I really appreciate you

927
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: checking in and good on you. You brought up a

928
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: lot of good context and perspective. You gave it some

929
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: texture because who you play against in college. I defended

930
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson to the hill several years ago when he

931
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: came out of Louisville. Go back and look at the

932
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: box scores when he played you SEC defenses like yeah,

933
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: let's you, et cetera. He did great. I defended the

934
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 2: hell out of Lamar Jackson when other people were on him. Christopher,

935
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: North Carolina Joint. Just welcome in, Christopher.

936
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 11: Good evening, Bernie. I wanted to start with one topic

937
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 11: first and then tackle the second.

938
00:49:59,400 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

939
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 11: Chris shout out to the USA women winning the gold

940
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 11: against Canada six four in over time four to three.

941
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 11: Go women, Thank you very much.

942
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 2: So forgot to tell them. Come on, man, you can't

943
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: purry the lead there, big fella. If you're gonna break news,

944
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: what tell them which sport it was?

945
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 7: Hey?

946
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 11: This was in the hockey tournament for USA women in

947
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 11: the IATTL as it deals with women hockey as they

948
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 11: get ready for the Olympics.

949
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: Go all right, let's get let's get the Chador and Travis,

950
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on those two?

951
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 11: This one Shaudor last week, Like I said, this proved

952
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 11: one thing Schauduur was fake. Why because he wasn't able

953
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 11: to prove what he could do in college. This is

954
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 11: where they think that this is going to be the

955
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 11: next Tom Brady. It's not. And there's one good reason

956
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 11: why Where did he go? He went to Cleveland. Cleveland

957
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 11: is not a quarterback whisperer. There is no quarterback whispering Cleveland.

958
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 11: Where is he having the best opportunity it would have

959
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 11: been with a quarterback whispering team. He's not going to

960
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 11: do anything in Cleveland going to be a Scott Mitchell.

961
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 11: He's going to stumble and bumble around the league, and

962
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 11: he's not going to be anything other than mediocre. Think

963
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 11: about it. He really doesn't have the skills. He pretended

964
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 11: to be something he's not. He advertised something he won't be.

965
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 11: And until he can prove three things, read defenses, read whiteboards,

966
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 11: and understand the complexity of the NFL, he is going

967
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 11: to be a third string quarterback.

968
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: Interesting. I appreciate a strong opinion, Christopher. That's what we

969
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: want here. We don't always have to agree. Listen, you

970
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: may well be right. And as many of the folks

971
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: I talk to in the past few months, for what

972
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: it's worth, facts not feelings, she do or didn't do

973
00:51:54,440 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: well on the whiteboard part of the interview again, he's

974
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 2: now stepping into a new situation. What's passed has passed

975
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 2: as we go forward. I don't want to hear legendary.

976
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: Don't tell me, show me, show me. Robert and Arcadia.

977
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Bernie Frattleshiew. How are you.

978
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 12: Hey, I'm doing well.

979
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 13: I just want to speak towards Shador.

980
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 9: Now.

981
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 13: The last time I seen a quarterback kind of like this.

982
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 13: His name and you mentioned him before is Lamar Jackson

983
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 13: went to a program like this that's not knowingly to

984
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 13: be one of the top tier ones and brought him

985
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 13: to something. Now, he's not one of the top tier,

986
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 13: don't get me wrong, but to put him in the

987
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 13: fifth round, now that's just really breaking him down when

988
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 13: you think about what he has looked up to and

989
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 13: even sought, you know, grades like Tom Brady and such

990
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 13: to really learn, and what he just trusts his dad

991
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 13: and what he has done right, So that preaches a

992
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 13: lot of coachability.

993
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 12: Now.

994
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 13: I see all the other stuff about him having a

995
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 13: big head, but I would love a competent quarterback in

996
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 13: my opinion. So with that being said, and the tools

997
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 13: that he has around him and such, and him being

998
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 13: able to scramble and still make plays with big players

999
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 13: and such too, why can't that translate? So I don't

1000
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 13: really see where all this extra hype is and this

1001
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 13: generational type of feel too. But overall, I think that

1002
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 13: this is a good pick for Cleveland and this type

1003
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 13: you're playing with house money at this point.

1004
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 7: But I don't know.

1005
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 13: If he's going to be a great or amazing or

1006
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 13: something along those lines. But a lot of people in

1007
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 13: the top ten picks at the QB don't pan out

1008
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 13: in that type of way. But somebody that's able to

1009
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 13: show you this scrambling ability, still able to make big plays,

1010
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 13: and has this type of likability he's gonna sell tickets, like,

1011
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 13: come on, you're just letting this pass by. I feel

1012
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 13: like it's slept through a lot of team pools fingertips

1013
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 13: when you talk about Travis Hunter. To answer that question,

1014
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 13: I believe that he'll be a two way player, and

1015
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 13: it just kind of depends on his durability. If it

1016
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 13: lasts long, then he'll stay a two way player. But

1017
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 13: if it continues to just hit on him and he's out,

1018
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 13: they're going to continue to just have him as a

1019
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 13: wide receiver. Feel like it's a bigger impact on the game,

1020
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 13: especially nowadays, and plus he'll get all that money as well.

1021
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Robert, appreciate your thoughts to don't

1022
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 2: be a stranger on the Bernie Fatis are just getting

1023
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 2: started in the midnight hour, Harold, Rick, Jerome and Hugh

1024
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: you are up next in that order. Don't go away.

1025
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: Be patient. We're going to get to all you. No

1026
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: one is getting turned away, even if we spill into

1027
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: the one o'clock hour. A really good call so far

1028
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: and thoughtful, and I'll read some tweets later, but I

1029
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: think the opinions are varied as well they should be,

1030
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,480
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1040
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1042
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1048
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Speaker 2: Hour continues to go back out to the phones. Were

1049
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: joined by Harold in Los Angeles. Harold thanks for hanging on.

1050
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: What do you got for us tonight? Buddy? Hello, Hello, Harold,

1051
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: you're on the air.

1052
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Speaker 14: He man, what's happening Listen?

1053
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 12: I want to just offer alternative perspective on a whole

1054
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 12: shdul Santa situation. You know, I know this young man

1055
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 12: who was raised Bob good Man in prime, but with

1056
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 12: the media and a lot of the morning hosts and

1057
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 12: other people made this whole draft situation what it was.

1058
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 12: Maybe the kid got a little legal, little swag, a

1059
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 12: little flow, little attitude. Maybe he didn't he cutally performed

1060
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 12: at a high level. But coming into this draft, all

1061
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 12: the media voltures took this kid and then there's a

1062
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 12: big jig Cower babel for him and put him right

1063
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 12: on top of it. So when you're a young man,

1064
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Speaker 12: it doesn't matter who your daddy is or how much

1065
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 12: you getting paid nil. They definitely put him in a

1066
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 12: precarrious situation. And then for the NFL, after all, hypocritical

1067
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 12: and that is the worst group of people on the planet,

1068
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 12: given what they've hidden and the scammers that they do

1069
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 12: all the time, to all of a sudden masquerade as

1070
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 12: though they are the paragons of virtue. We're gonna teach

1071
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 12: his kid. You know what the straighter now is, it

1072
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 12: just doesn't it just doesn't ring right. And I just

1073
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 12: think he's a young man maybe kind of you know,

1074
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 12: they don't the spylight for him. They showing on him,

1075
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 12: and then they were just waiting for him to make

1076
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 12: a mistake and hopefully he'll go in the NFL and

1077
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 12: take care of some business.

1078
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: Harold. I appreciate your perspective, thoughtful, and I would say

1079
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: this that there's no question the media was culpable and

1080
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: the media was complicit in allowing this group think echo

1081
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: chamber narrative to to erode what you know, Chador's reputation

1082
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: may or may not be, but it's what I call

1083
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: them Michael Jackson syndrome. Harold. The media can prop you

1084
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: up and take you down. Going into the year, some

1085
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: people had him as the number one player picked overall.

1086
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: So it's a bit of a double ed sword. But

1087
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 2: I think the larger issue here is what's going to

1088
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: rise to the surface. And he was raised by a

1089
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: good man, I like Dean Sanders. I think he's everything

1090
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: he's touched has been successful. Now we'll see what Shador

1091
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 2: can do on his own. Now it's no longer show me,

1092
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: tell me you follow me.

1093
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 7: That's what I call the laffin.

1094
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 12: But I would just say this, you know everybody then

1095
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 12: what misses you? And you could be a sposed as

1096
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 12: it is, you could be a cost co executive, whatever

1097
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 12: it is. You know, everybody wants this kid to come

1098
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 12: in and interviewing like he's trying to get into law school, right,

1099
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 12: And the bottom line is if I'm a team and

1100
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 12: I have a young man come in and I know

1101
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 12: the kid is not that interested in playing for me

1102
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 12: for whatever reason, right, I want to know as an

1103
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 12: employee comes to having an interview, maybe there's some information, right,

1104
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 12: Like most people aren't forced into job interviews. When you're

1105
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 12: going through the draft for better for worse. You got

1106
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 12: to talk to all these teams and maybe there's a

1107
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 12: team that you're not really down with. Maybe they're not

1108
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 12: down with you, so to me, kind of like going

1109
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 12: out on the day. That's where the illogic of it

1110
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 12: just comes into play. Instead of trying to throw this

1111
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 12: poor kid under the bus. Okay, maybe he didn't comport

1112
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 12: himself with the highest degree of whatever they consider professionalism

1113
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 12: to be. For a nineteen twenty one year old man,

1114
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 12: so be it. But you want to know the straight truth,

1115
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 12: and again call him. Made a good point by Eli.

1116
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 12: Oh you look at Kobe's the greatest basketball player all

1117
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 12: the time. Like some people just don't want to go

1118
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 12: to certain places. And if I'm the employer, I would

1119
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 12: rather know that sooner than later.

1120
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, thanks, Harold, don't be a stranger.

1121
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: Look again, it's all gonna come out in the wash

1122
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: when he gets on the field. And I will stick

1123
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: to this though. I do not think that missing the

1124
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: Shrine Bowl and the combine and saying just look at

1125
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,959
Speaker 2: my film, that's enough may have been the smartest play,

1126
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: but the rest of it is all subjective. And listen,

1127
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of guys supporting him to shudor

1128
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: does so. Now again, let's just get on the field

1129
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: and play ball. Rick and Louisiana Joint. Just Rick, welcome

1130
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: into the Bernie Fradershaw. How are you?

1131
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 15: I'm all right you thanks for taking a call.

1132
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, again, I'm going.

1133
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 7: To do all three first.

1134
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 15: I do believe that is gonna do well. But it

1135
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 15: is a team sport, so he can't do it all

1136
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 15: by himself. I mean, he's got to have an offensive line,

1137
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 15: he's got to have receivers, and he's got to have

1138
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 15: a running back that's gonna offset some of that. So

1139
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 15: I think that that they have a love, that they

1140
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 15: have a Cleveland has a challenge too to make sure

1141
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 15: that you know, he's protected to a certain you know,

1142
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 15: a certain degree. So I will say, if he gets

1143
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 15: the protection he need and have the receivers in the

1144
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 15: running game, I think he's gonna do well.

1145
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 8: Uh.

1146
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 15: Secondly, as far as you asked the question about Dion,

1147
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 15: I will say this much. I think that, you know,

1148
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 15: with lebron the way he did his son, Bronian was

1149
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 15: able to get him in. I do think there is

1150
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 15: some fear out there. That's what I took it as

1151
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 15: a fear because I think there was some that said,

1152
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 15: you know, I really don't want to deal with that,

1153
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 15: because I don't want to deal with Dion because it's

1154
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 15: his son, and you can't you can't blame them for

1155
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 15: him to speak up for his son. If things get

1156
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 15: you know, go disarray and they ask the question, well,

1157
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 15: why is he not playing? Well, You're not fully utilizing

1158
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 15: which kind of leads me to the third thing, and

1159
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 15: that is do you think they're gonna use Travis Hunter

1160
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 15: if they're smart.

1161
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 7: They will.

1162
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 15: When Dion played, Dion was primarily defensive back, but he

1163
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 15: also would line up on third down, well, wide receiver.

1164
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: You know what. And Rick in nineteen ninety six he

1165
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: started sixteen games.

1166
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 15: On offense, right, and it was also punk return.

1167
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: That's right, killer punk returner.

1168
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 15: So if they're smart, they should be utilize them. But

1169
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 15: to play like he did in college and have him going,

1170
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 15: you know, defensive back and wide receiver the whole game,

1171
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 15: now that that's too much in my opinion and pro.

1172
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: All right, thanks very appreciate your thoughts today, ladies and gentlemen.

1173
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: Boys and girls, please turn your hymndals to page twenty,

1174
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: as we now welcome in the comedic stylings of Jerome

1175
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: and Charleston. Jerome, I was hoping you'd call him the night.

1176
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

1177
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 7: You know, very few people could get away with with

1178
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 7: giving me the business like you. But I accept that

1179
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 7: from you because I like you, buddy, and you're good enough,

1180
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 7: smart enough, and Doug under people like you.

1181
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: You sound like that Saturday Night Live skidmer with Al Franklin.

1182
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: Go ahead, d take the floor man. You got the

1183
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: floor like that.

1184
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 7: Like like you like George business arm he's all in

1185
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 7: the master rage.

1186
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 2: I George bad.

1187
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 7: That's a bad look to root for someone's kid, to feel,

1188
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 7: you know, I want for the best, but because yeah, hey, look,

1189
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 7: you know you could do a lot worse than a

1190
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 7: Rome Madelan Dion because I hear him talk about how

1191
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 7: he grew up and everything, and I loved beyond man.

1192
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 7: He told his mom when when he started making money

1193
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 7: back in like in the eighties or something. He goes,

1194
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 7: you're not walking no more. I'm taking care of you

1195
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 7: for not on. I love that man because it makes

1196
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 7: me tick up my own mom. And it's just like

1197
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 7: I told you. There's this this lady in Colorado, like

1198
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 7: you say, fond of us. She's like one hundred years old.

1199
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: He loves yeah you he saything bad about Dion as

1200
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, you know what, you know what, Jerome,

1201
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: you always come through.

1202
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 15: Uh.

1203
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: I think the first time that she door takes the field,

1204
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: the loudspeakers should be blurring. Give me the Night by

1205
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 2: George Benson. What do you think?

1206
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 7: Hey you I'm there, baby, Hey give me a whole

1207
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 7: George Benson concert. I know I don't know one song

1208
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 7: will make me happy. That'd just be like the appetier.

1209
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 7: Give me the whole give me the whole concert. Hey, hey,

1210
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 7: by the way, tell them you know, as far as

1211
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 7: Erican goes, you ever hear some of the stories about

1212
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 7: Live Bird or Tom Brady. You want to hear about

1213
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 7: Akin Well, library told h doctor j somebody better get

1214
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 7: this old man off of me. And then I'm so

1215
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 7: mad he wanted to kill him.

1216
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: Got to be careful, all right, real quickly, just got

1217
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: a few seconds. Do you believe Shador will will redeem

1218
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: himself as it were in the National Football League.

1219
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 7: It's like something I told myself when I was eighteen,

1220
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 7: trying to get into the acceptance of the military. As

1221
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 7: is to be. It's up to me. This is all

1222
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 7: in your hands, man, the how do you want the father?

1223
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 15: You go?

1224
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 7: So we Hey, the story's not written yet, but we

1225
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 7: would have to sit back and waiting.

1226
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 15: Street.

1227
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: All right, you're gonna be along for the ride with

1228
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: all of us, Joe. We want to hear from you.

1229
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 16: Man.

1230
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna be our Shador correspondent. Great stuff, Jero, Maan,

1231
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: I's always appreciate you, man, appreciate the vibe a lot,

1232
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: and props to spox Weed, who reminds me was, of

1233
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: course Stuart Smally. I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and

1234
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: god darn it you like me. That was a I'm

1235
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: not really an Ol Franken fan, but that was a

1236
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: funny damn skit u Hugh on the five free we

1237
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 2: assuming you are still on the five Freeway. Good evening,

1238
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 2: you are you?

1239
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 5: Wow?

1240
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 17: Bernie, I just I'm just crying over Jerome Man. I

1241
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 17: think I've followed him before a couple of times, and man,

1242
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 17: he just puts me in the right spot.

1243
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's your opening act man. And as you'll notice,

1244
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: I didn't call anybody a choker tonight. So we're off,

1245
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: do we can start?

1246
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 7: You're a good listener.

1247
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 17: Okay, So no, I'm not on a five tonight, Bernie.

1248
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 17: I'm on the little known Glendale Freeway. That's the two

1249
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 17: in LA, the two for Sadur Sanders. Oh look at you,

1250
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 17: Look at you?

1251
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 7: Yeah? Where do we begin?

1252
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: There's so many Well let's just let's just dive right

1253
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: into it. Do you think she door is going to,

1254
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: in the words of mel Kuiper, make a lot of

1255
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: people regretting not taking them allah, the Brett Farres and

1256
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers and the Tom Brady's, et cetera.

1257
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 17: That's irrelevance.

1258
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 6: You know, the topic that you had a couple of

1259
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 6: weeks ago. Is he a culture builder?

1260
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: You can build all the coach you want if you

1261
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 2: don't win games.

1262
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 17: Well look, okay, so I'm not even talking football.

1263
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 6: We're talking culture building.

1264
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 17: The one hundred and forty fourth pick the National Football

1265
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 17: League have the entire sports talking world going after it.

1266
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 7: He's building.

1267
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 17: It's beyond football. The guy can build culture.

1268
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 11: So okay, can he go perform on the field?

1269
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 5: We're going to find out.

1270
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 7: And as I've said all along.

1271
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 17: Since the first time I called in and you had

1272
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 17: an ongoing shador and be on topic, how are they

1273
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 17: going to do a part for one another when it

1274
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 17: comes to being on the field?

1275
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 6: Right?

1276
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 7: It's just such a fascinating story.

1277
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 17: So, okay, why did he get Why did he fall

1278
01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 17: down so far?

1279
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: I think I explained it pretty well in my opening monologue.

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01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 7: Okay, so I have I have my.

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01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 6: Own way of looking at it.

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01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 17: You know, a Hard Knocks had a wasn't able to.

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01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 3: Have any buddy agree to be on Hard Knocks this

1284
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 3: football season I know, I think, I think, I think

1285
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 3: all the teams are so like, no, no, no, no no,

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01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: we don't want cameras, we don't want extra exposure, we

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01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 3: don't want inside stuff going on.

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 15: And that's what he that's what.

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01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: Shador would bring.

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01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 17: You know, he's he's, he's, he is a multi media

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01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 17: sensation already before even getting into the NFL.

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01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 8: And I think teams are like, well, no, we just

1293
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 8: don't need all those eyeballs.

1294
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 17: We're just trying to win games, right, So that just

1295
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 17: makes it all more fascinating.

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01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 18: Here's another take.

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01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 17: The Cleveland Browns are so well set up. They've got

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01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 17: how many chips to trade at the quarterback position?

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01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: Right, well, as long as they execute and get the

1300
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: kind of capital they need.

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01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 17: Well, okay, I mean that's all theiretical right now.

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01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: Man, that's not.

1303
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 8: For sure, that's for sure.

1304
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 17: Nobody, nobody knows where it's going to goat. Nobody knew

1305
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 17: Tom Brady's going to be the goat when he got picked.

1306
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 8: In the sixth round Montana and the mid rounds and

1307
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 8: all that.

1308
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 17: Stuff, right, So that's all kind of like who the

1309
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 17: heck knows?

1310
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 7: But man, are we all going to be watching? And

1311
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 7: I think that's what it's all about.

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: All right, Look, pal, I got it. Listen, great calls

1313
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 2: always you look forward to you every Saturday night. I

1314
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: got to get to the rest of these calls. Thanks

1315
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: so much, appreciate you.

1316
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 5: Man.

1317
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, the leprecaun in Boston is back. You're gonna

1318
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: be a regular Mike.

1319
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 14: I don't think i've called you before, have I?

1320
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you have, you have. You're welcome. You're welcome.

1321
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: Let's hear what you got.

1322
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 5: I'm not a choker, no, no, nor.

1323
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: Whatever you accuse you of being one.

1324
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 14: Go ahead, Well Lorena would, but Tom Brady and Larry

1325
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 14: Burning like somebody mentioned them on the previous call. So

1326
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 14: but he decided, and Travis Hunter will be a fantastic player,

1327
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 14: but they kind of have to let him do the

1328
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 14: two ways thing.

1329
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: Because I think, so.

1330
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 12: That's what I might think.

1331
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 2: You think Shudor will have success in the National Football League.

1332
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 14: Well, as I said, pride comes before a fall, and

1333
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 14: Rome wasn't built in a day. And the media was

1334
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 14: definitely the blame because they had him hyped up with

1335
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 14: that big party.

1336
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: With all the you're not wrong, and that's the reason

1337
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: he slipped, because who in the hell besides his own

1338
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: camp and a few people said he was going to

1339
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: be a top five pick. Nobody I talked to in

1340
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 2: NFL circles go ahead, Well a.

1341
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 14: Year ago they did, but then.

1342
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not the NFL people.

1343
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 14: No, so they hiped him up and back. He said,

1344
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 14: the media drives him down, and he dropped like a

1345
01:09:59,120 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 14: light balloon.

1346
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 2: Basically, well, go ahead, He's not the first one. Listen,

1347
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 2: I have a time crunch Mike real quickly. Anything else he's.

1348
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 14: Like, he reminds me of lebron and Bronnie as well

1349
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 14: similar And to be honest, I think the past's got

1350
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 14: a great pace in number four Will Campbell and that

1351
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 14: comments the Clippers in Genver game was pretty brilliant.

1352
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, I appreciate hearing from you. Mike. No,

1353
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: you're not a choker. We do this every Saturday night.

1354
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: The midnight hour is continuing Umberto and Manuel up next people.

1355
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: You don't want to miss that, of course. And as

1356
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,839
Speaker 2: you know we're talking about Shador. Will he have success

1357
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 2: in the National Football League and live up to mel

1358
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 2: Kuiper's belief and Shad Travis Hunter played both ways in

1359
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,200
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Speaker 2: all of you. You dial in, You take the time

1367
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: to call in, Mberto, Manuel, Bryce, We're gonna get to

1368
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: all of you. I appreciate your patience. I'm Bernie Fraddle.

1369
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 2: We are coming to your line from the Las Vegas

1370
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Compound here tonight. Keep it locked you

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01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: listen to the Midnight Hour the Bernie Frattles Show on

1372
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the Bernie Fraddle Show,

1373
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. The Midnight Hour continues. Umberto San Diego,

1374
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: Waena Snowches, how you doing?

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01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 19: Umberto Berto come starts, Bernie, Will you be any two

1376
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 19: movie and listen listening to your show amazing as always

1377
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 19: and have Regarding the point that you have with Travis Hunter,

1378
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 19: he's going to be jat Wars, so he has to

1379
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 19: pick his spots. He wants to be great. I think

1380
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:09,839
Speaker 19: you cannot play both ways all downs. So I remember

1381
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 19: Dion Sanders was great cornerback in a good receiver when

1382
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 19: he played offense. So it'll be interesting to see how

1383
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 19: the Jaggers use him. So the kid can be at

1384
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 19: one hundred percent for every single play according to the

1385
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 19: downs or whatever. But yeah, that's something that the NFL

1386
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 19: is different than college and he's going to find that

1387
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 19: out in the first few games.

1388
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: I think, no, I'm an agreement. Look, he's a special talent,

1389
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: and I think you know, on offense, you know, if

1390
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 2: it's the fourth quarter, you need to get some points

1391
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: on the board to move the change, you're in the

1392
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 2: red zone. You might want him on the field on offense.

1393
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 2: As far as defense, you probably I think you want

1394
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: him their full time and then pick your spots for

1395
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: some offensive packages. All right, is shedor going to do

1396
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: what mal Kuiper says and make people regrets not taking them.

1397
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 19: Well, the drawback on that is he's in the Browns,

1398
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 19: one of the most dysfunctional organizations there are. They make bad,

1399
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 19: choicest people don't forget. They run Baker Mayfel to the ground.

1400
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 15: They did not give him respect. I don't know.

1401
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 19: I don't trust the organization. I think the kid has

1402
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 19: the tools, he can be really good, but unfortunately he's

1403
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 19: in that organization, the same organization that paid Deshaun Watson

1404
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 19: a lot of money for nothing. So that's the only

1405
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 19: drawbot the kid. I think it'd be great, but I

1406
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 19: think he's in the wrong.

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01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: Place all right, And Bertel appreciates you as always, I

1408
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: would humbly remind of the folks Baker Mayfield joined that organization.

1409
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 2: They were one in thirty one, two years on Hugh

1410
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 2: Jackson and got them to the playoffs the second year.

1411
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: Now I realized they ran Baker out of and all

1412
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 2: that stuff. And you're not wrong about Cleveland's history. Bernie

1413
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: Coosar had a run there, and Fernis Boner doesn't drop

1414
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: the ball in the goal line and go to the

1415
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: super Bowl. But it's inarguable the Cleveland franchises. I don't

1416
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: know if it's cursed or what. So your points, we'll

1417
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 2: take it in. Bertel, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

1418
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 2: we welcome in a man who makes time for us,

1419
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,959
Speaker 2: and we are eternally grateful. Say hello to Manuel and Guardina,

1420
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: Well what's up?

1421
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 9: Buddy Burn Baby Burn faction came in the chain reactions. Bernie,

1422
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 9: great show as usual. I want to thank you personally

1423
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 9: for giving us a boy and for always covering all

1424
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 9: the bases in such a professional fashion. Now let's get

1425
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 9: down to business. Chadure Sanders. Okay, so I'm not a

1426
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 9: Chadur hater, But last I checked, the guy didn't win

1427
01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 9: his division. Guy didn't win a national championship. Everybody was

1428
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 9: up in arms there. He had his jersey retired. So

1429
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 9: why is it such a big deal to everybody that

1430
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,879
Speaker 9: the guy fell in the draft.

1431
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 7: It happens.

1432
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 9: You know, I take the same stance with him as

1433
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 9: I take with my Lakers. Don't talk about it.

1434
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 16: Do it.

1435
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 9: Show me on the fields, on the court how anybody

1436
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 9: could sit there and blabber blabber, talk crap, But do it.

1437
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 9: Put your money where your mouth is.

1438
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 5: Okay.

1439
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 9: As far as Travis Hunter generational talent, and that's another thing,

1440
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 9: is he going to have somebody like that to throw with.

1441
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 9: We saw what happened to Johnny Manziel all of a

1442
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 9: sudden when his receiver went to Tampa Bay and became

1443
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 9: Hall of Famer. Johnny Manziel started calling himself, Billy and

1444
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 9: started going to your town, you know what I mean.

1445
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 9: So everything you know, we got.

1446
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 7: To see it.

1447
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 9: Man, I'm tired of all this. I think Travis Hunter

1448
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 9: is going.

1449
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 16: To be great.

1450
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 9: But like Umberto was saying, man, this ain't college.

1451
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 7: Man.

1452
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 9: We've seen the best of the best, you know, be

1453
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 9: able to go both ways a little bit here and there,

1454
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 9: guys like Mike Grable, guys like Charles Woods, Deon Sanders,

1455
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 9: but they pick and choose their spots. Like m Berto

1456
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 9: was saying, is st anc two a my friend?

1457
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 2: Great stuff as always? Man, Well, I want to give

1458
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 2: you some props too, because let's be honest here, let's

1459
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 2: keep it real. When they got on the field against Nebraska,

1460
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 2: they got humbled. Same with Kansas State. Kansas BYU did

1461
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: not farewell against the bigger boys. And I'm gonna correct respectfully,

1462
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: Ryan Clark. After the Nebraska game, a reporter said something about,

1463
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 2: you know, Schudoor Sanders in his rough game, and he

1464
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: looked at the reporter if if I've got this correct,

1465
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 2: and said, how many times was Dylan Royola sacked? So

1466
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 2: he did have some instances where perhaps they have followed him.

1467
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world again. He's going

1468
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: to get on the field in July and we're going

1469
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: to see where we go from there. All right, Bryce

1470
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: from Texas, it looks like you got the last word tonight.

1471
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 2: One of your thoughts on these issues as.

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01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 18: A Brown fan. I can go on way too long

1473
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 18: about this, but I'll try to make it as short

1474
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 18: as possible. I'm not going to talk about Travis Hutter. First,

1475
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 18: I opened for manwell last week. I appreciate him returning

1476
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 18: the favor and opening for me tonight, Thank you. Second,

1477
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 18: I think that the Shador standers him getting drafted in

1478
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 18: the fifth round is not as big of a deal

1479
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 18: as everybody's pointing out to be. Will Howard also fell

1480
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 18: to the fifth round here and won a national title.

1481
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 18: But I think Shador felt because of his dad, and

1482
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 18: it's not because of his loud mouth or the attitude.

1483
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 18: I think it's because he's been shielded by his dad

1484
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 18: being his only coach all his life. We don't know

1485
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 18: what Shudor is going to do with a new coach.

1486
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 18: Can he learn a new system, can he learn a

1487
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 18: new scheme or whatever. I think that's the thing that

1488
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 18: hurt him. Now, going to my lovely Browns. The Browns

1489
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 18: are like the girl who keeps getting into bad relationship

1490
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 18: after bad relationships, starting way way, way way back. You

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Speaker 18: can go through Johnny Manziel, you can go through Josh Gordon.

1492
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 18: We just like to have bad relationship to get beat

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01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 18: up on. And so if we're going to get beat

1494
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 18: up verbally by somebody, who better than Dione Sanders and

1495
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 18: his son. But the good news is this is a

1496
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 18: match made in heaven because the bar for the shered

1497
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 18: door Sanders is very low, and he only has to

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01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 18: meet one number, and that's ten.

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01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 6: He only has to have.

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Speaker 18: Ten starts to be considered a success in Cleveland, because

1501
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 18: that's above average every other starter in the last ten

1502
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 18: years in good stuff.

1503
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 2: Hey, Bryce, you're on a good rule. I want to

1504
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 2: ask you a question. I got about twenty seconds, and

1505
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to cut you short. If you have

1506
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 2: more thoughts, I'll make you the last call over. If

1507
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: you're going to hang on after the one am, you

1508
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,480
Speaker 2: want to hang on and finish the rest of your thoughts,

1509
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: I'll hold on. Okay, We'll continue you. Because he's given

1510
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: some good statistics and as to what the measure of

1511
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 2: success might be in Cleveland, because he's bringing up a

1512
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 2: good point. Maybe we need to grade this on the curve,

1513
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: you know, not coming to go to a super Bowl

1514
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 2: or anything like that. Maybe you grade this on the

1515
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 2: curve compared to other ones. Keep it locked. This is

1516
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show. The men that I will continue

1517
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 2: ever so quickly coming up.

1518
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1519
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frattle Show

1520
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frattle. We

1521
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 2: are company line for the Fox Sports Radio compound here

1522
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Take and you have to three am Pacific,

1523
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: six am Eastern. Callers have been fantastic. H And by

1524
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 2: the way, I want to remind everybody that the draft

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Speaker 2: coverage on Fox Sports Radio is brought to you by

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Speaker 2: dot com. That's shipstation dot Com Code. Just go back

1529
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 2: to Bryce in Texas. Finishing up to Ben that hour

1530
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 2: calls I brought you had kind of an interesting angle

1531
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: and if I follow you correctly, you're sort of gradingess

1532
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: on a curve because if you look at the Cleveland

1533
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who had like forty of them in the past

1534
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: thirty years. Shod door success will be relative when you

1535
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 2: compare it to what they've had. You know, I don't

1536
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 2: want to put wars in your mouth, but continue on

1537
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: with your point.

1538
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 18: No, that was absolutely where I was going with this.

1539
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 18: I think we're so caught up on how well Baker

1540
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 18: Mayfield did in Baker Mayfield's greatest achievement in Cleveland was

1541
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 18: his longevity.

1542
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 12: That was it.

1543
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 18: Did you go back and look at his numbers? He

1544
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 18: had one foloid year, but his last few years there

1545
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 18: were pretty bleak throughout the league. I mean it was, Oh,

1546
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 18: I just had him pulled up. But I think his

1547
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 18: last year he had like twenty two touchdowns twenty one interceptions.

1548
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 2: He did win a left game, did he not? Bryce

1549
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: He did win a playoff game.

1550
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 18: He did win a playoff game against the team that

1551
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 18: had a backup quarterback.

1552
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they went into Pittsburgh. I think the game

1553
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: was played in Pittsburgh if I'm not mistaken.

1554
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think it was a good.

1555
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 2: So the bottom line is, do you think Schador will,

1556
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 2: in the words of Mel Kuiper, create a situation where

1557
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: other teams regret multiple teams regret not taking them.

1558
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 18: I don't think the other teams regret not taking him,

1559
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 18: But I think the Browns made a good choice.

1560
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 2: He could sit behind Joe.

1561
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 18: Blacko for a year and learn from him and then

1562
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 18: be set to have a long, longer sit in Cleveland

1563
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 18: than what people are expecting that and so you expect.

1564
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 2: Him to beat out Dylan Gabriel then, because look what

1565
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: it's going to be like. I don't know what the

1566
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: hell they're gonna do with the Sean Watson, but Flacco's

1567
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: going to make the team, and Kenny Pickett's going to

1568
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: make the team, and they're not going to carry four quarterbacks.

1569
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: You can't do that on a fifty three man roster.

1570
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: One of them he'll be on a scout team or

1571
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 2: he'll be on the h but they don't call it

1572
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 2: the taxi squad anymore. But you know where I'm going,

1573
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 2: all right? Anything else?

1574
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 10: Uh No?

1575
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 16: So that was all.

1576
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 18: I didn't want to thank too much time and not

1577
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 18: use all my time on that.

1578
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,919
Speaker 2: All right, sounds good. I think it's a good perspective.

1579
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: All the callers just simply outstanding tonight, thoughtful, Okay, in

1580
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: terms of well, you know, what are they going to

1581
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 2: surround you do or with if he gets his chance.

1582
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,879
Speaker 2: If he earns his chance, those are all fair points.

1583
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: Or on the other hand, sometimes you've got to be

1584
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 2: the guy to lift the team above you. That was

1585
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: always my beef with Matt Stafford Detroit. People think I'm

1586
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: a Stafford hater. No I'm not. I just got tired

1587
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: of the fact they said he never had anything to

1588
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: work with in Detroit, where that's not true. Yes, for

1589
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 2: the twelve years he was there, he didn't. But of

1590
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: the twelve years he didn't, but four of me did,

1591
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: and and he fumbled it. I mean, in the twenty

1592
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: fourteen team in Detroit had the number three ranked defense.

1593
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 2: You had in Dominican Sue, you had Calvin Johnson. They

1594
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 2: won twelve games that year, they went to the playoffs.

1595
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 2: He had Dallas beating the road, and Stafford turned the

1596
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 2: Bowl over twice in the fourth quarter. I know you're

1597
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: tired of hearing that story. My listeners are particularly tired

1598
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: of hearing this story. But it's the truth, all right.

1599
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 2: So look, part of it's predicated on who they surround

1600
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: him with. I want to see if his game translates.

1601
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm just one hundred percent sure I think you put

1602
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: him on the field with NFL at NFL speed, He's

1603
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: got to ramp it up quite a bit more than

1604
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: you realize. I'm not saying he can't. I look, and

1605
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: I want to get to some of the tweets I

1606
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 2: wasn't able to get to earlier Homeward nineteen sixty seven,

1607
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: said Bernie. The question on Shodor Sanders is will the

1608
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: Browns give him a fair shot? They have few or

1609
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 2: four qbs and drafted Dylan Gabriel. The Browns weren't exactly

1610
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: high fiving each other when they drafted them. Well, that's true.

1611
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: That's a visual that's going to hang around a long time,

1612
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 2: kind of like Laramie Tunsel's a mask back in the

1613
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen draft. I mean, these things stick. But if

1614
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 2: Shodor has success, no one will care. But boy, if

1615
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: you saw that draft room, my goodness, gracious, look like

1616
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: some you know, they all just smelled a bad fart

1617
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: and he can wouldn't get off there. You know, it

1618
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 2: just it wasn't a good look. Okay, let's maybe we

1619
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: don't read too much into it. Spoxwed says, I think

1620
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Schador sliding in the draft will be a blessing in disguise,

1621
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: it very well could be. It's a real come down

1622
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: for him. The chip on his shoulder he's going to

1623
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: have will be the best fuel to be the best

1624
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: he can be. He'll get a chance to play in Cleveland,

1625
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: and he mel may indeed be a profit. Well, that

1626
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: may very well be true. I said this many years

1627
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: ago that when Dan Marino in the nineteen eighty three draft,

1628
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: you know, which was the best quarterback draft of all time.

1629
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: Marino was the sixth quarterback picked overall, behind guys like

1630
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: you know, Kenny O'Brien and Todd Blackledge. But he went

1631
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: to Miami, who had been in the Super Bowl the

1632
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: year before. He was coached by Don Shula, a Hall

1633
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: of Fame coach, and when he was coach of all

1634
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 2: time and a quarterback Whisburg. And because he fell, the

1635
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: expectations and pressure was not the great and Marino let

1636
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 2: it up, he didn't win a Super Bowl. I get it,

1637
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: all right, So I think it is a blessing in disguise.

1638
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: This is not a bad spot. It's what you make

1639
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: of it. It's what you make of it, you know.

1640
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw went to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Look, look, at

1641
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: what they were before he got there. So and I

1642
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: could name other examples. Here's a chance for Chador to

1643
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: take a blank canvas and pain paining a masterpiece. Cowboy

1644
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: Drew says, a lot of teams will will regret not

1645
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 2: taking Sanders. May well be right, We've got to let

1646
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: this play out. Have you have you ever a little

1647
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: later in the show, by the way, I'm gonna do this.

1648
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the top quarterbacks who were drafted

1649
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: specifically in the fifth round, and we're gonna go back

1650
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: a long way and there's some good names in there,

1651
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: more than you think. So you know, whoever said it's

1652
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: not you know where you're drafted, it's you know that

1653
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: you're drafted and what you do with it when you

1654
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: get there. And those are facts. But did you ever

1655
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: wonder what teams do, how they havevaluate NFL draft prospects.

1656
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: It is incredibly thorough, incredibly they evaluate. I mean, it's

1657
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 2: a multifaceted process. Okay, obviously it starts with scouting, but

1658
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: then there's testing. You know, you go through the the

1659
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 2: the measurables, you go through the you know, the traits,

1660
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 2: and then you look at what their performance. You analyze film,

1661
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: you look at their character assessments, They put them through

1662
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 2: various testing, They analyze their college games, and then they

1663
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 2: conduct interviews not just with the you know, the player

1664
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: that they may or may not draft, but with coaches.

1665
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 2: They talk to other coaches, They talk to players to

1666
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 2: assess their strengths and weaknesses. The beauty of it is

1667
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: and this is why the NFL Scouting Combine can be

1668
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 2: very valuable. It provides a centralized platform for a lot

1669
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 2: of evaluations, physical testing, medical evaluations. It allows teams to

1670
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: sort of validate and confirm whatever their scouting judgments are.

1671
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: It gets use them an opportunity to gather a lot

1672
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 2: of crucial medical information. Also, you get a chance to

1673
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 2: talk face to face background character, off field conduct. Chador

1674
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 2: chose not to attend the combine, and see that's where

1675
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: the BS meter hit me, because if you really thought

1676
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: he was going second or through overall, I mean he

1677
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 2: was wearing New York Giant cleats what two or three

1678
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: months ago, and you know someone asked me you going

1679
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: to the combin. He goes, now we know where we going. No,

1680
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: he thought he was going to New York. I think

1681
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: I think he wanted to go to New York. Fortunately,

1682
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: New York wasn't interested in him. Maybe he might have

1683
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 2: benefited from going to Combine. We'll never know. I realized

1684
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 2: that if you really know where you're going, and you know,

1685
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter didn't need to go to the combine. Okay,

1686
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 2: he couldn't improve his stock, neither would have cam Ord.

1687
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: But someone like Shador he misread the room, I think.

1688
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: But again again, this is all going to start up

1689
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: again in July, and he's gonna get on the field.

1690
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 2: The evaluation process starts to go to you know, skew downward.

1691
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: From there, you start with scouting and film review. Okay,

1692
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 2: scouts have already attended a lot of the college games

1693
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 2: that Shudor played in. They observe them in their natural environment.

1694
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 2: That's what they're there for, and they are allowed, you know,

1695
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 2: they were able to assess their skills and decision making

1696
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: abilities in a game setting and game speed. Then they

1697
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 2: take that and they'll make they'll take film from that,

1698
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 2: and they'll go back and watch the game tape to

1699
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: reanalyze and play backup players performance in various scenarios. And

1700
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 2: there's when they'll start to identify strengths and weaknesses. Now,

1701
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: the great Bill Walsh used to say, don't tell me

1702
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: what a quarterback can't do, tell me what he can do.

1703
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: And then again you're back to interviews, coaches, players, people

1704
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: who are involved in the player's program. They want insights

1705
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 2: into their what you know doesn't show up on the newspaper.

1706
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: And you know where we're going with that. Okay, again,

1707
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: I want to repeat the combine. The combine serves as

1708
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: a standardized platform. Everybody's on an equal footing. There you

1709
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 2: got agility drills, strength tests, medical evaluations, physical tests, and

1710
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 2: again it's used to sort of confirm or validate a

1711
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 2: scout's judgment and impression and try to get a deeper

1712
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 2: understanding of what you'd beginning, what is this player's real capabilities?

1713
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 2: Again along with medical assessments. And finally, this is important.

1714
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I know Ryan Clark said, here's

1715
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 2: a kid who's never been in trouble. Yeah, it's true,

1716
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 2: best of my knowledge, he's never been in trouble. So

1717
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 2: what is that your base? You've never been in trouble?

1718
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 2: Whooped the damn do? You're not supposed to be in

1719
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 2: trouble now? I know Baker Mayfield got in trouble, and

1720
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: that seemed to really bother Ryan Clark that he still

1721
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 2: got drafted high. Ryan Clark made sure to point that out. Now,

1722
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm not for, you know, condoning what Baker Mayfield did.

1723
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 2: He got tackled by that cop. You've seen the video.

1724
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, you know, but he's turned out pretty good

1725
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: in the NFL, hasn't he like what he's done in

1726
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. So again, here's a chance to wipe the

1727
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 2: slave clean. And I'm not saying Shoot Door did anything wrong.

1728
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 2: I could rub some people the wrong way. I just

1729
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 2: I mean, human nature is human nature, and people are

1730
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: going to form impressions based on the impressions you give off.

1731
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 2: If you're driving a Rules Royce on a college campus,

1732
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: you're giving off a certain impression you just are, all right.

1733
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 2: I don't give a damn what he drives. Again, I

1734
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 2: covered the NFL. They just want to win. If this

1735
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: kid can get on the field and help them win,

1736
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 2: that's all that's gonna matter. The rest is Michigas take

1737
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 2: it down river with you. It doesn't matter, all right.

1738
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: But character and background assessments. People look at their own

1739
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 2: they look deep into a player. They'll look into his

1740
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 2: work ethic. I have no reason to believe that Door

1741
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: Sanders does not have a good work ethic. His character,

1742
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,759
Speaker 2: I know nothing about him. Seems like a decent chap.

1743
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 2: Seems like he's very full of himself. He inherited that

1744
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 2: from his dad. His dad could back it up. His

1745
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: dad played Major League Baseball. He was a good player.

1746
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 2: His dad played in the NFL, played the Super Bowl,

1747
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 2: play in the World Series. He ain't his dad. I

1748
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 2: think if he ain't shoot Door Sanders, he's his dad.

1749
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 2: Tell me why you think that? In a thousand wards

1750
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: or less come on attitude, I don't think she Door

1751
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 2: has a bad attitude. He has at attitude. Depending on

1752
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 2: your personal subjective feelings, you might think he's cocky. You

1753
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 2: might think he's as confident. Does he have leadership qualities

1754
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: he appears to, But you don't exist. You know, you

1755
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 2: don't express that leadership in an NFL locker room by

1756
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: talking and going raw raw. That'll last about ten seconds.

1757
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 2: You get on the field and you make place. After that,

1758
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 2: all the background checks, interviews, coaches, teams, et cetera, family background,

1759
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 2: academic performance convinium. Let me try that to get an

1760
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 2: English community involvement. Those are all considered as factors in

1761
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 2: a player's overall evaluation. So I'm gonna go back to

1762
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 2: what I said at the top of the show, why

1763
01:31:52,840 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 2: did he slide? Why did you door slide? Because the

1764
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: only people who really believed he would go second or

1765
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 2: third overall or ninth or certainly not past twenty first

1766
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 2: were his agents and his PR team and his holm

1767
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 2: Shpooka of the Sanders team Sanders, Shiloh Sanders, Dion Sanders Junior,

1768
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders, Shador Sanders, and his posse and his PR team,

1769
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 2: And that's spilled into the media. They said it. They

1770
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 2: created that expectation. Nobody I know that I talked to

1771
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: that has NFL experience and NFL inside or not, he's

1772
01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 2: had him as a first round draft choice. There's no

1773
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: crime against that. I guess later in the show, I'm

1774
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,799
Speaker 2: gonna give you a lot of the fifth round choices

1775
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 2: who are a lot of games in the NFL. All right.

1776
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 2: I also want to say that I don't think his

1777
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 2: approach to the pre draft process was serving him well.

1778
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: And it might be a primer and a cautionary tale

1779
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: and what not to do if you're a future quarterback.

1780
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: Don't you to declare yourself something you aren't and hoping

1781
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: he nobody checks you out. The reality here is Sanders

1782
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 2: is a good football player. He appears to be a

1783
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 2: quality prospect, someone who could eventually turn into a functional

1784
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 2: starter in the NFL. Again, as one of the earlier

1785
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 2: callers said, he's got to be surrounded by talent and

1786
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: a good offensive line, but they're still he has to

1787
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: get on the field and prove against NFL players that

1788
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 2: he has the arm talent. Those wins he threw in

1789
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 2: college aren't going to close in the NFL. They're not

1790
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 2: going to be as wide. He's got to prove he's

1791
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 2: got pocket processing ability in general proclivities to play the position.

1792
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 2: He can't just take off a run. He can't hold

1793
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 2: the ball for three seconds. He can't get sacked like

1794
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 2: he did at Colorado. And also, I think that the

1795
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 2: perception that Shudor was a little overconfident for his own

1796
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 2: good is accurate. It's it's spot on. It's just spot on,

1797
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 2: as simple as that. So there you have it all good.

1798
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 2: He gets a chance to prove himself. I think the

1799
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: great story would be I really do. I think the

1800
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 2: great story would be that Schador leads he somehow finds

1801
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: his way in the field, becomes a starter, and leads

1802
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 2: the Brons to the playoffs. That would be a story

1803
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 2: ridding for him to fail as a fool's Errand as

1804
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,679
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I want to take two seconds

1805
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: to call out these knuckleheads from University of Mississippi. What

1806
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 2: were you thinking finding the number? Somebody must have leaked

1807
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 2: that number because the NFL has a documented base of

1808
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 2: phone numbers for all these guys that don't know who

1809
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 2: to call, and they call him, and I mean, this

1810
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 2: is this young man's life, and you pull that crap.

1811
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 2: I hope these kids are in trouble for what they did.

1812
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm serious. If you didn't hear about it,

1813
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 2: they pulled a prank. They called Shador Sanders and pretended

1814
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: they were the New York Orland Saintsans and you've been

1815
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 2: drafted by the Saints. I don't have any other details

1816
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: past that, but apparently it did happen. I think Chador

1817
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 2: was kind of street smart enough to figure out and

1818
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 2: feel right about this call. But regardless, that's beyond malicious,

1819
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: completely unnecessary, and is beyond me why someone would have

1820
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 2: to drum up something like that, I'm not going to

1821
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: be doing my brand new Fool segment tonight because I

1822
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 2: got a guest at two am. But your brand new fools, Okay,

1823
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 2: that's what you are. By the way, Shortly after the show,

1824
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 2: the podcast will be going up. If you missed any

1825
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Speaker 2: Frattle Show wherever you get your podcasts. You see tonight

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Speaker 2: show posted right after we get off the air coming up.

1831
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 2: What the hell, let's talk about some winners and losers

1832
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 2: in draft as it were. I see that in a

1833
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 2: colloquial sense because we always do this, right, Who were

1834
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 2: the winners and losers? And yes, it's not credit to

1835
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 2: Nick Right who said, fooy on, all you people who

1836
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: beneath you to give draft grades two days after the draft. Well,

1837
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 2: you certainly can give draft grades. I mean, the Lions

1838
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 2: every year would need offensive linemen, and Matt Millan would

1839
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 2: draft a wide receiver. He got an f built a

1840
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 2: team from the periphery. Didn't work, did it?

1841
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 17: So?

1842
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 2: You can draft, you can give grades. I'm not gonna

1843
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 2: give grades, but I'm gonna look at some of the

1844
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 2: notables right players who were drafted. It seemed to be

1845
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 2: a bullseye for the teams that drafted him and others

1846
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: not so much. I'm Bernie fraddlework company line for the

1847
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Speaker 2: They were back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

1855
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 2: comingy live from the Las Vegas compound of Fox Sports Radio.

1856
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 2: Take you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. Again, Hey,

1857
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 2: Laurel and Harty, Welcome and thank you to all the

1858
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 2: great callers during the midnight hour. This Shudor story is

1859
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 2: simply going to have legs for the remainder of this

1860
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 2: season and beyond. I want to remind everybody, by the way,

1861
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 2: for the best pregame show every weekend, be sure to

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01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:30,960
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Well, I

1868
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,799
Speaker 2: believe it or not, there are other stories surrounding the draft,

1869
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 2: so let's get to the ones that really caught my eye.

1870
01:37:55,600 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 2: Let's again, I think Schudor's story is probably near the top,

1871
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 2: if not at the top, but give it up to

1872
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 2: Jaggs general manager. James Gladstone, thirty four years old, his

1873
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 2: first ever stint as an NFL general manager, pulls off

1874
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 2: the most notable, perhaps stunning in some people's eyes move

1875
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 2: of the night, right out of the geat when he

1876
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 2: made a deal with Cleveland that moved Jacksonville from the

1877
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 2: fifth pick to the second overall pick. The Browns got

1878
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 2: the fifth pick in the first round. They did great

1879
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 2: with that pick, by the way, Mason Graham's a stud.

1880
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: They got the thirty sixth overall pick in the second round,

1881
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 2: the one hundred and twenty sixth overall pick in the

1882
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,560
Speaker 2: first round, pick that the Jags would have had in

1883
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth The Jags got that second overall pick,

1884
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 2: the one hundred and fourth pick in the fourth round,

1885
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 2: and then a sixth round pick, the two hundred pick.

1886
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: And what did they do with that pick? Well, you

1887
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 2: know what they did. They used it on Travis Hunter.

1888
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 2: Now I realized they paid a hefty price to make

1889
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 2: the deal happen. But Travis Hunters a generation player. He's

1890
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 2: gonna put butts in seats and he's the type of

1891
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 2: guy who can can really change a culture by what

1892
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 2: he does. He's just electrifying some of the plays he made.

1893
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 2: If you remember the very first game against North Dakota

1894
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 2: State last August twenty ninth National TV game standalone game Colorado.

1895
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 2: Early on, North Dakota State took a three to nothing lead.

1896
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 2: Just a few minutes later, Travis Hunter caught a sixty

1897
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 2: two yard touchdown pass, just electifying, electrifying, And you know

1898
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 2: he helps Jacksonville plug two big needs. Jacksonville had a

1899
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 2: need at receiver and they haven't need a corner. They

1900
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: fell two needs with one player two birds one stone.

1901
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 2: So the fact that this guy had the cajones to

1902
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 2: make him move that quickly that early. And I know

1903
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 2: he was criticized for the amount of capitally gave up,

1904
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: but guess what you gotta give to get sometimes in

1905
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 2: this league. And I think you have to give him

1906
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 2: an a g not only for that pick, but for

1907
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: the picks that followed also because after that they got

1908
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 2: a cornerback Caleb Bransaw and Wyatt Mileham in the third round.

1909
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 2: They also got Virginia running Tech Vishultoton and these guys

1910
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 2: can all play. Okay, these are guys that are gonna

1911
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 2: get on the field this year.

1912
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:20,759
Speaker 6: This year.

1913
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 2: Jacksonville serve notice. And if Trevor Lawrence can somehow start

1914
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 2: to reach the potential everybody thought he had, the Jacks

1915
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 2: could be good. And they're in lines by the reason,

1916
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 2: I think the shador was that rated highly. In my boat,

1917
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 2: he's not gonna get on the field this year. He might,

1918
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 2: he's not gonna help Cleveland win this year. If he does,

1919
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 2: he does, I'll eat my words. But I don't see

1920
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 2: that happening. And from all the years I covered the

1921
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 2: draft with the Lions, you got that first round pick

1922
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 2: much less top ten pick. You have to say to yourself,

1923
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 2: this guy's starting day one, and we can plug him

1924
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 2: into our lineup the next five years and look for

1925
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 2: him to make at least Pro Bowls three of those

1926
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: five years or all Pro. That's the way it is now.

1927
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 2: Cam Ward obviously gets no mention, very little. After taking

1928
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 2: Ward with the first overall pick, the Titans did their

1929
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,759
Speaker 2: best to try to surround him with a few weapons,

1930
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: and in the fourth round they got a couple of

1931
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 2: good receivers to Marry d k and the leak CanYa Manner,

1932
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 2: and a tight end named Gunner Helm. Those three guys, okay,

1933
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 2: they became Tennessee became who think they are? Matt Millen,

1934
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 2: the first team in seventeen years to draft three pass catchers,

1935
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 2: three receivers in the single round. Now they're all gonna

1936
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 2: play though. They are all gonna help this Titans team. Okay,

1937
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 2: And by the way, they also the Titans after the

1938
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 2: draft went out and signed cam Ward's number one target

1939
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 2: last year at Miyami xavier 'strepo. He's an undrafted free

1940
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 2: agent and look Ward mentioned he wanted to play with Rastrepo,

1941
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 2: and he Titans got the message, so they were helping him.

1942
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 2: I think the Titans will be improved and we'll see

1943
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 2: how cam Woord does. He's got a lot on his

1944
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 2: shoulders to who much is given, much is expected. But

1945
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 2: Cam Woard, you gotta love his story. Wasn't recruited out

1946
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 2: of high school, went to Incarnate Word, made a name

1947
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 2: for himself, ended up in Washington State and that police

1948
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 2: did very well and ended up in Miami and he

1949
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: made a lot of big time throws this past year,

1950
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 2: big time. How about the Ohio State Buckeyes. Did anybody

1951
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 2: notice the year national champion Ohio State Buckeyes had a

1952
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 2: total of fourteen players taking in the draft. That's tied

1953
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 2: for the second most by any school for the first

1954
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 2: seven rounds of the draft. And Amika Abuca was the

1955
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 2: first Buckeye to go off the board as well. He

1956
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 2: should have one of the best receivers. He's going to

1957
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 2: step right into the league, be a target for Baker Mayfield.

1958
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 2: With nineteenth overall, the guys a stud and you talk

1959
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 2: about character checks every box and then Will Howard even

1960
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: finally you know, one hundred and sixty six picks, he

1961
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 2: was a hundred and eight fifth pick overall. Will Howard

1962
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 2: became the final Buckeye to go off the board. And

1963
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 2: who was you drafted by the Steelers. The Steelers did

1964
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 2: draft the quarterback, you know, they passed on Chaudor five times,

1965
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 2: but they finally drafted a quarterback in Will Howards. Something

1966
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on, you know. Robert Salah clearly

1967
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,759
Speaker 2: was not the problem in New York for the Jets.

1968
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 2: He'd been away from San Francisco for five years and

1969
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:41,600
Speaker 2: he was a phenomenal defensive coordinator and he's back with

1970
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. And the forty nine Ers said, Robert,

1971
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 2: we want you back. We're glad to have you back.

1972
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna draft defensive guys. And the Niners used their

1973
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 2: first five picks in the draft on defensive players, just

1974
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 2: a second time in history that they've done that. But

1975
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 2: these are guys you're gonna hear about. Michael Williams, Alfred Collins,

1976
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 2: Nick Martin Upton Stout out of Western Kentucky's a little guy,

1977
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 2: one of the hardest hitters in the draft. CJ. West.

1978
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 2: The Niners aren't dunnies. Okay, they cleaned some house, cleared

1979
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 2: some cap space. Not one hundred percent sure what they're

1980
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 2: gonna do with Brock Prody. But that's this NFC West

1981
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 2: is a very winnable decision. I know everybody wants to

1982
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 2: crown the Rams. Seattle'll have a say in that. Even

1983
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 2: in Arizona got a little better. But don't go to

1984
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: sleep on the Niners. I think Robert Salla is looking

1985
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:34,560
Speaker 2: at chops at the idea of playing Michael Williams and

1986
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 2: Nick Bolsa together, a couple of great, great pass rushers. Remember,

1987
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 2: the Niners lost a bunch of key defensive players this

1988
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 2: past season. Javon Hargrave, Leonard Floyd, Dre Greenlaw, Javarius Ward. Look,

1989
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 2: that's just the way it is, all right. We all

1990
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 2: paid close attention, on least some of us did, to

1991
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, because Tom Brady was extremely active in terms

1992
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 2: of his influence and input and decision making with the draft.

1993
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 2: This was his first draft, and it's really sort of

1994
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 2: interesting if you look what Brady did. Maybe he's looking

1995
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 2: for another guy below the radar, like he was in

1996
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 2: the sixth round of the draft. And this may or

1997
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 2: may not be a coincidence. Probably not. The Raiders took

1998
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks in the sixth round. Now I'm not that

1999
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 2: familiar with Montana State's County im a lot. I think

2000
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 2: he's a Julian Edelman type, but I'm very familiar with

2001
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 2: North Dakota State's cam Miller. Cam Miller was outstanding at

2002
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 2: North Dakota State. He put up huge numbers. I will

2003
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:48,759
Speaker 2: tell you against Shador Sanders Colorado team on that Thursday

2004
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 2: night to start the season, he gave them everything that

2005
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 2: Colorado could handle. All right, I mean I love this pick,

2006
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 2: cam Miller, And on that night against Colorado, he was terrific.

2007
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 2: He threw for two undred and seventy seven yards in

2008
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 2: a touchdown. He also ran for eighty one yards and

2009
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,480
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, averaged over five yards of cary against Colorado.

2010
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 2: By the way, Chador ran for seventeen yards at night,

2011
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 2: averaged about two yards of carry. Yeah, I know, Colorado

2012
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 2: won thirty one twenty six and Sudor threw for about

2013
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 2: four hundred. But cam Miller caught my eye quite a

2014
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 2: bit that night, and they also won the national championship.

2015
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 2: But this is a guy that can really play. I

2016
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 2: think Tom Brady and it'll be curious to see because

2017
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 2: cam Miller runs so well. I mean, he ran for

2018
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 2: like twenty three hundred yards and forty touchdowns in his career. Look,

2019
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 2: he's got Chip Kelly. I think he makes a team.

2020
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 2: We'll see what he does. It'll be interesting to see

2021
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 2: what he does. I'm not sure what this allot kid

2022
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 2: will do out of Montana. But Brady's not an idiot.

2023
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 2: I understand there's a talk that they'll switch him wide

2024
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 2: receiver because he's that athletic. But if you look at

2025
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 2: every one of the Raiders picks that Tom Brady and

2026
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 2: his former Michigan teammate who's now the GM and for

2027
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 2: the Raiders John Spytech made, they're all damn good picks.

2028
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 2: If you follow your football, they're all damn good picks.

2029
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 2: I think the Bears offense got better, man, I don't know.

2030
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,719
Speaker 2: They say they're the best team in the NFC North.

2031
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 2: That's an exaggeration, but if you're being honest, you're gonna

2032
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 2: have to take notice of this team, especially on offense.

2033
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 2: They're starting to turn some heads. Okay, Colston Loveland on

2034
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 2: a Michigan They got him in the first round, temph

2035
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 2: overall pick. He was actually drafted, you know, ahead of

2036
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 2: another damn good tight end in the in the draft,

2037
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 2: and he's compared, you know, favorably to guys like Brock Bowers,

2038
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 2: and that's why the Bears took him. But they also

2039
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 2: selected Luther Burden a third and you got Ben Johnson

2040
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 2: and Caleb Williams. So I thought progressed quite nicely in

2041
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:05,600
Speaker 2: his first year. Ben Johnson has the creative mind to

2042
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 2: call plays with these two new weapons. And that's also

2043
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 2: make note of the fact the Bears have already started

2044
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 2: to overhaul their offensive line. They drafted Osi Trapillo out

2045
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 2: of Boston College, who's now a two more offensive players

2046
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 2: at the back end of the draft. And they even't

2047
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 2: have got themselves a running back in the sixth round.

2048
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 2: So from people off talk through, the Bears get very

2049
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 2: high grades for all their picks, and I got to

2050
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 2: believe that Caleb Williams is probably quite pleased with the

2051
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 2: additions that the Bears have made. I'm going to watch

2052
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,560
Speaker 2: the Tyler Shuck situation. That Saints had not taken a

2053
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 2: quarterback in the first two rounds of the draft for

2054
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 2: like fifty years, but that drought ended, you know, when

2055
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,799
Speaker 2: New Orleans selected Shuck with the fortieth overall pick. Very interesting.

2056
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 2: He's walking into what I think is a very friendly

2057
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 2: quarterback situation. Derrick Carr is dealing with his shoulder injury.

2058
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 2: I do not believe he'll start the season. So Shuck

2059
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,759
Speaker 2: is in a quarterback room with Spencer Ratler, Jay Canler,

2060
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 2: Ben Denucci not to be confused with Don Fiducci, with

2061
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 2: the godfather of the Black can So here's the deal.

2062
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,560
Speaker 2: The reason I said Shuck has a favorable situation. I

2063
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 2: saw him in Louisville. He had his moments, but he's inconsistent,

2064
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 2: but he had his moments. I know the Saints fans

2065
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 2: can't be thrilled, nor should they be, because it's a

2066
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 2: completely unknown quantity. And the reality of it is, if

2067
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 2: Shuck can't beat out Ben de Nucci, j Canner and

2068
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler, then he may not be long for the

2069
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:49,680
Speaker 2: Saints world. It's just all there is to doe. But

2070
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 2: the Saints drafted him pretty damn high. And you know,

2071
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 2: I think Kellen Moore knows a thing or two about

2072
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. All right. He's coached DAK and he's

2073
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 2: coached Jalen Hurts, and he did great at Boise State

2074
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 2: and had a cup of coffee in the NFL. And

2075
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 2: I would just say this that Oftentimes what happens on

2076
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 2: draft day looks great and turns out not to be

2077
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 2: so much. And then there are other times where you

2078
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 2: scratch your head and then you look up six months

2079
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 2: later go, oh, that's why they did that. But it

2080
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 2: has to play itself out, all right. So those are

2081
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 2: the things that caught my eye on the positive side

2082
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 2: of the ledger. Coming up, Let's take a look at

2083
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 2: some of the things that caught my eye on the

2084
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:35,559
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2092
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 2: on the draft. I won't call them losers. I'll just

2093
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 2: say these caught my eye for perhaps other reasons. I'm

2094
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,519
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2099
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Speaker 2: MECIUT of Boston and get some of his perspectives on

2101
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:33,640
Speaker 2: the day's events, among other things. And I started my

2102
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 2: show off by saying, hey, with it. You know, some

2103
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 2: good news and some bad news. And you know, no

2104
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 2: one likes if anybody ever hits you with that. You

2105
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 2: just don't like hearing it. It's like the old joke

2106
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 2: about the doctor calls up one of his patients and says, well,

2107
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: I got some bad news and some worse news. He

2108
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 2: what's the bad news? Because you got twenty four hours

2109
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 2: to live? What's the worst news? Oh? I meant to

2110
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 2: call you yesterday. No one likes hearing good news and

2111
01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 2: bad news. So even for Shadoor, yes, it's good news

2112
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 2: that the kid got drafted, even though he had to

2113
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 2: wait and teams. The team that drafted him passed him

2114
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 2: over six times, but he also lost out on about

2115
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 2: thirteen million dollars. See if schdor Sanders had been taken

2116
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 2: in the first round with say the twenty first pick,

2117
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 2: as many predicted, even though Pittsburgh had their eyes on

2118
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 2: the defensive player Harmon for a long time. He would

2119
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,719
Speaker 2: have gotten a rookie contract with about eighteen million dollars. Instead,

2120
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 2: you take it in the fifth room around he'll get

2121
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 2: He'll get a four year deal that's worth about five million.

2122
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 2: Nothing to sneeze at. But I think he made like

2123
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 2: six million of Colorado. And again, I don't care what

2124
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 2: anybody says. If the team that took you passed you

2125
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 2: over six times before they actually decided to take you,

2126
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you dwell on it. There's an old saying.

2127
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 2: You can look back, but don't stare. But you know

2128
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:56,799
Speaker 2: it's the old Heydor. Sorry, we passed on you six times,

2129
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 2: along everybody else. But we want you now though. Really

2130
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 2: all right, h quinn Ewers you if you thought Shador

2131
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 2: Sanders had a painful fall in the draft, well, ladies

2132
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, we give you Quinn yours, the former Texas

2133
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 2: quarterback who should have probably could have maybe should have

2134
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 2: stayed in college one more year. He was projected to

2135
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 2: be a mid round pick, but that even didn't happen.

2136
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 2: He sat on his couch and I don't know what

2137
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 2: he did for three straight days, But finally the Dolphins

2138
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 2: did select him in the seventh round with the two

2139
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty first pick. Now, look of all the

2140
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 2: human beings, who's ever strapped down a helmet in their

2141
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 2: life and shoulder pads and a jockstrap? And it ate easy.

2142
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 2: I don't care what love you play that I only

2143
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 2: played in high school. It's hard. So for whatever quinn

2144
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 2: Ewers did, he's had a ninety nine point nine percent

2145
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 2: of people who whoever put on a pair of pads.

2146
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 2: But it's got a piss off a little bit. For

2147
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,680
Speaker 2: the rest of his life, clinn Ewers is going to

2148
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 2: know that he was drafted behind two kickers and a punter.

2149
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,320
Speaker 2: Two kickers at a punter were drafted before quinn Ewers

2150
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 2: went off the board. Remember it wasn't that long ago.

2151
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 2: I was reporting on the show that he was offered

2152
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 2: a million dollars to skip his senior year in high

2153
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 2: school to go to Ohio State. Didn't work out, turned out.

2154
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 2: I think there was a pervisa in the nil contract

2155
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 2: that he had to start and he didn't. But he

2156
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 2: ended up in Texas and acquitted himself pretty good. I

2157
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:29,560
Speaker 2: would say Quinn Ewers accomplished quite a bit more of

2158
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 2: Texas and Shudorf Sanders did at Colorado, although Shoot Door

2159
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: Center's numbers were good. Everything's relative again, everything, you know,

2160
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 2: every you get. You know, we're like the six degrees

2161
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 2: of Shodoor Sanders. It's just going to wah, it's going

2162
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: to be uh, you know, it's it's what, it's going

2163
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 2: to be, all right. But the good news is for

2164
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 2: Quinn Eures always heading into a quarterback friendly system. You know,

2165
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 2: he's behind Tua. He's going to have to beat out

2166
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, which I do not think he will do

2167
01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 2: if he wants to win the backup job again. Hewers

2168
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 2: was the thirteenth quarterback taken behind two kickers, a punter,

2169
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 2: two FCS quarterbacks, and one of the quarterbacks, Tommy Malott

2170
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 2: has stud out of Montana State probably won't even play quarterback.

2171
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker, oh boy, he had after being just the

2172
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 2: most reliable legendary kicker in the NFL for years. The

2173
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 2: Ravens kind of put Justin Tucker unnoticed by drafting a

2174
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 2: kicker for the first time in Baltimore Ravens history. They

2175
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 2: drafted the guy my good buddy Arnie Spaniard is probably

2176
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 2: familiar with because he went to Arizona. His name is

2177
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 2: Tyler Loop. Now, I am not going to even for

2178
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 2: half a second pretend to tell you that I know

2179
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 2: who the hell Tyler Loop is, all right, but I

2180
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 2: do know this. Tucker is coming off the worst season

2181
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 2: of his career, and he's also facing multiple allegations of

2182
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: sexual conduct along the lines of what Deshaun Watson faced.

2183
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 2: Look anyway, a slice it. Tucker's had a pretty damn

2184
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 2: good thirteen years in Baltimore, pretty memorable thirteen years. I

2185
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 2: remember a Monday night game in Detroit. My god, he

2186
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 2: kicked like a sixty three yarder to beat the line.

2187
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 2: He made so many clutch kicks, but nothing less. It

2188
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 2: came to an end. I think it's coming to an end. Hello,

2189
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 2: Tyler Loop. I have no idea who Tyler Loup is,

2190
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 2: but you're following a legend. How about I have dual

2191
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 2: Carter all right now? For whatever reason, I would have

2192
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 2: thought he wore eleven at Penn State, Michael Parkson's wore

2193
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 2: eleven at Penn State. Michael Parsons continued to wearing eleven

2194
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys, where he's done very well. And I

2195
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 2: would have thought, I mean, dual Carter, it's just a stut.

2196
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I knew he was gonna go, you know,

2197
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 2: very high. I knew he was going to the New

2198
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 2: York Giants. It was the worst kept secret. But he

2199
01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 2: has to wear number fifty six. That number is hired,

2200
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like Shdor Sander's number. Remember this

2201
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 2: is the six degrees of George Sanders tonight, and that

2202
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 2: number belonged to the legendary Lawrence Taylor, who maybe defined

2203
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:13,839
Speaker 2: defense in the National Football League going back six decades.

2204
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 2: There's not a quarterback whoever lined up over center when

2205
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 2: they played the New York Giants. He say's Joe Montana.

2206
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 2: Who The first thing they want to know is where

2207
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 2: the hell is Lawrence Taylor on the field. Well, Lawrence

2208
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 2: Taylor ain't having it. Abdua. Carter says, can I wear

2209
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 2: number fifty six? And Lawrence Taylor says, not up in here.

2210
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 2: He will not be letting Carter wear it. Says, get

2211
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 2: another number, end of quote. I don't care if it's

2212
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 2: double O zero to make it famous. Well, Carter needs

2213
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 2: to maybe see if Warren Moon can go to bat

2214
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 2: for him because Warren mood is allowing cam Ward to

2215
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 2: wear number one, right, I would say the Bengals Charger Sanson.

2216
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 2: Eagles had the Wars drafts just off the top of it. Okay,

2217
01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals got a raw talent, Jamar Stewart, but they

2218
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 2: didn't bother to try to fill many other defensive needs

2219
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 2: like corners, safety, defensive tackle. That's why you're able to

2220
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 2: give grades the next day. Why they would not address

2221
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 2: those needs, I don't know. Okay, by the way, the Eagles,

2222
01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 2: I take that back, I take that back. Howie Roseman

2223
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 2: worked his magic early in the draft. I don't know

2224
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 2: how he gets Jehat Campbell, who's a stud. He gets

2225
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 2: all these Georgia guys. The truth of the matter is

2226
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 2: is that Jihat Campbell probably would have been a top

2227
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 2: ten pick if it hadn't been for injuries. But bet

2228
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 2: against Hollie Roseman at your own risk, because the guy

2229
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,840
Speaker 2: just does magic year after year after year. And so

2230
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 2: you got to give the Eagles a lot of credit.

2231
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: The Chargers, meh. The Saints. Kelvin Banks Junior is a

2232
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:49,960
Speaker 2: good pick, but then what came after that, Well, we've

2233
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 2: already talked about that. So look, here's the beauty of this.

2234
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 2: All these teams have the opportunity to prove us wrong.

2235
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they will, maybe they won't. The NFL Draft has

2236
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 2: become truly an enjoyable event, and now we'll see what happens.

2237
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 2: Won't be longer. We got OTA's in training camp, all right?

2238
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 2: Coming up, Jeff Dawson for BZI, joined us. We'll chop

2239
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 2: it up in the sports world'll keep it locked. You

2240
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 2: listen to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2241
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 1: Listen, Hey, no, Fox Sports Radio.

2242
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frattle Show

2243
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie fraddick Wick.

2244
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,800
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2245
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:28,520
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2246
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:33,400
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2247
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:35,520
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2251
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 2: a gentleman you've heard him on my show many times,

2252
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 2: coming to us from Boston. He's with ECI say hello

2253
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,880
Speaker 2: to Jeff Dawson. Jeff, how are you, buddy? Appreciate you

2254
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 2: getting up early as always.

2255
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 16: Oh, good morning, Bernie. Coffee hot here back east. We

2256
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 16: got about three inches of rain yesterday, sawn Noah's ark.

2257
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:09,240
Speaker 16: But draft is over and we're ready.

2258
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 2: I want to start there. We had a pretty lively

2259
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:16,440
Speaker 2: discussion about three hours ago having to do with Shudor Sanders.

2260
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 2: I would like to ask you to respond to mil

2261
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 2: Kuiper's assertion that Dion did it again. Shudor Sanders will

2262
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:32,080
Speaker 2: in fact make multiple teams regret not taking him. Where

2263
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 2: are you weigh in on the hull Shudor Sanders saga?

2264
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 16: Well, I think the writing was on the wall with

2265
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 16: about seven to ten days to go before the draft,

2266
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 16: and I think a lot of people tuned it out,

2267
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 16: meaning he did not do well in the interview process.

2268
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:55,360
Speaker 16: I guess a little arrogant was to say it lightly,

2269
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 16: so some teams didn't even have them on the board.

2270
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 16: Only a handful of teams, Bernie that actually were in

2271
02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:07,640
Speaker 16: the Sanders sweep stakes, and I think two of them

2272
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 16: just thought that they were bidden against themselves. So has

2273
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:17,400
Speaker 16: a lot of talent, But this year's quarterback class was

2274
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 16: not that great compared to last year and what everyone's

2275
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 16: expected this year next year. Excuse me, So will teams

2276
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 16: regret it on term? Bernie?

2277
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:28,920
Speaker 12: I don't think so.

2278
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 16: I think the fact his skill set plus Dion the

2279
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 16: circus of you know, I think he's right where he

2280
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:41,440
Speaker 16: belongs with the crowded room. He has an opportunity now

2281
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 16: to prove himself what he's worked. And I'm not calling

2282
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:49,760
Speaker 16: him the next Bernie Cosner or Brian Site, but we'll

2283
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 16: be talking a lot about Sanders and his progress all year.

2284
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we certainly will. I'm just not sure if the

2285
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 2: skill set that he has as someone who covered four

2286
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 2: team draft for the Lions, I'm not sure if it

2287
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 2: translates that he can prove me wrong. But I have

2288
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 2: some question marks. Again, he can prove me wrong, but

2289
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 2: we shall see. Also, we discuss Travis Hunter. I believe

2290
02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 2: Travis Henter should go both ways. I think he should

2291
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 2: be a starter on defense and then find some packages

2292
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 2: for him on offense. You know, maybe sixteen twenty snaps

2293
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 2: a game. The thinking is, if you're in the fourth quarter, Jeff,

2294
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 2: and you're in the red zone or you're driving to

2295
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 2: try to score you might want Travis Hunter on the

2296
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 2: field as a wide receiver. He might make a play

2297
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 2: for you, as he did in Colorado. On the other hand,

2298
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 2: if you are holding a lead and it's late in

2299
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and the other team is in the

2300
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 2: red zone, etc. You're gonna want Travis Hunterer on the

2301
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 2: field locking down one of their receivers. Your thoughts on

2302
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:49,560
Speaker 2: whether or not you think Jacksonville will employ him on

2303
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:50,600
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball.

2304
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Speaker 16: Well, they stripped the offense. Ingram is gone, Kirk is gone.

2305
02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:00,400
Speaker 16: They kind of want to move off of have as

2306
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:06,400
Speaker 16: etn So I think the Tarrott or for drafting him

2307
02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 16: was to say, hey, don't you worry. You see where

2308
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:12,680
Speaker 16: our offenses. Well, you're going to play plenty of offense,

2309
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 16: and yes, we're going to give you opportunities on defense.

2310
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 16: I like your thought process there, or Burnie very much.

2311
02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 16: I think offense, the hard part is how many snaps

2312
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 16: a game? I mean, how fresh can you be If

2313
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:32,480
Speaker 16: he's playing both sides full time, I'd say late third,

2314
02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 16: early fourth quarter, he's going to be one tired man.

2315
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:37,960
Speaker 16: But I like the thought process here. We're going to

2316
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:42,839
Speaker 16: use your sixty five percent on offense. Thirty five on defense,

2317
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 16: or you know, maybe move him in on third downs

2318
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 16: or red zones. So whatever keeps him happy, whatever keeps

2319
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:56,120
Speaker 16: the Jaguars movement. But I'm excited to see him, especially

2320
02:03:56,640 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 16: offensively on the Jaguars this year.

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Speaker 2: One of the larger issues is the logistical issue. The

2322
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 2: defensive coordinators each week will install a new game plan

2323
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 2: with different schemes and personnel groupings, and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of film study and a lot of practice time implementing

2325
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 2: those schemes, and you just can't show up when you

2326
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 2: feel like it. I mean, this is a it's like

2327
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 2: two full time jobs. So we'll see. We'll see how

2328
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:26,360
Speaker 2: they navigate through that. Jeff, I want to talk about

2329
02:04:26,360 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 2: the Patriots because look, ever since the former coach who

2330
02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 2: won all those Super Bowls with Tom Brady left the Patriots,

2331
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 2: I still think are in the public eye now. I

2332
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 2: am of the belief the Patriots had a pretty damn

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02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:47,040
Speaker 2: good draft. Will Campbell at LSU. You talked about him

2334
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 2: weeks ago, him or Membu was going to be the guy,

2335
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 2: and there's no question he steps in and has a

2336
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 2: long career. I believe. I love the Treevion Henderson pick

2337
02:04:57,840 --> 02:05:00,120
Speaker 2: I love the Kyle Williams pick the wide receiver to

2338
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 2: Washington State, and then from there they grab some defensive guys.

2339
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 2: It feels like Rabel has his fingerprints all over this draft.

2340
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 2: How do you grade the Patriots draft and can they

2341
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 2: make noise in a division? I wouldn't call it wide open,

2342
02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:19,080
Speaker 2: but I think someone's right there to challenge Buffalo and

2343
02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:20,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to be Miami and

2344
02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be the Jets.

2345
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:27,880
Speaker 16: Well, we are very excited. I'm looking at the draft.

2346
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:33,959
Speaker 16: I was locked in all three days, excited for Vrabel,

2347
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:38,480
Speaker 16: excited for Wolf, and I really wanted to see the

2348
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:40,400
Speaker 16: comparison between last year.

2349
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:44,160
Speaker 9: Wolf was there last year obviously with girod Mayo.

2350
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 16: Now Vrabel with his team, and the difference between last

2351
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 16: year and this year was just eye opening. They had

2352
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:59,600
Speaker 16: a plan, they stuck to it. They're sitting at four.

2353
02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 16: No one wanted to move up. They fell in love

2354
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 16: with Will Campbell. They did extensive research. They went back

2355
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:12,960
Speaker 16: down to LSU late last week. Vrabel and Will have

2356
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 16: a bond. That was their guy. But after that, it

2357
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:21,040
Speaker 16: gets really interested in Bernie is at the second round,

2358
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 16: the thirty eighth pick. A video got leaked out late

2359
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 16: last week with the Chargers and them back and forth

2360
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:34,600
Speaker 16: on the phone and eventually making that trade which the

2361
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 16: Chargers got Lad McConkey and the Patriots fell in love

2362
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:41,120
Speaker 16: with Polk and Baker. They were in that same spot

2363
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:44,880
Speaker 16: this year, Bernie, and if you saw the draft, they

2364
02:06:45,080 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 16: waited to the last handful of seconds to make their pick.

2365
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 16: They were fielding a lot of opportunities for potential trades.

2366
02:06:53,840 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 16: I think it was someone wanted to move up for Henderson,

2367
02:06:57,560 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 16: so they were looking at the BC edge rusher. They

2368
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 16: had a couple of wide receivers on the board, Noel

2369
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 16: and Williams. Rabel went to Ohio State from under Stevens

2370
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:12,720
Speaker 16: I think led the NFL and fumbles both. They took

2371
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:16,280
Speaker 16: their guy with Henderson, they come back with Kyle Williams

2372
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 16: and then they go back on some defense with Wilson

2373
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:25,720
Speaker 16: and they get a center. Big, big draft grated, very

2374
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:30,360
Speaker 16: very high. Now again their kids. The Patriots have a

2375
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 16: lot of holes to Phil Bernie and they need to

2376
02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:40,760
Speaker 16: revamp the whole team. So we're excited. I think I

2377
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:42,840
Speaker 16: don't want to be a Homer, but I drew him

2378
02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:45,520
Speaker 16: in a minus Bernie, fair.

2379
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 2: Enough, And look, I think it's actually good for football

2380
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 2: if somehow the Patriots get back into the mix, and

2381
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:57,280
Speaker 2: it'd be a quantum leap, right, But it's happened before.

2382
02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 2: I mean, Cam Newton took a one in fifteen team

2383
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 2: year before got to the Soper Bowl next year. So

2384
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 2: am I predictat you? No, go ahead?

2385
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:09,440
Speaker 16: It's it's an AFC East that is dominated by obviously

2386
02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 16: the Bills, and then there's a lot of question marks

2387
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 16: and Jets new coach Justin Fields Miami, we know t

2388
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:20,800
Speaker 16: and they income the Patriots. Are the Patriots going to

2389
02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 16: the playoffs? Probably not. But we said the same thing

2390
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:27,600
Speaker 16: last year about Washington, who go from the bottom to

2391
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 16: the top. So you know, a lot of variables, a

2392
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 16: lot of moving parts here, but this team will look

2393
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 16: a lot different than they did last year. Their offensive

2394
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:42,800
Speaker 16: line got better a year older. For May really excited

2395
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:46,240
Speaker 16: to see what Brabel does. You know, seven to eight,

2396
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:51,760
Speaker 16: maybe nine wins, Bernie, But I think very competitive is

2397
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 16: what we're looking at looking for. And as you said,

2398
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:58,240
Speaker 16: six times Super Bowl champs, it'd be nice to be

2399
02:08:58,400 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 16: relevant again, Bernie.

2400
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 2: Let's wrap it up with the NBA playoffs, and I

2401
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:05,920
Speaker 2: want to focus on the Eastern Conference. Earlier with Mark Mnina,

2402
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,320
Speaker 2: we focused on the Western Conference. And the question is

2403
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:12,200
Speaker 2: can Boston repeat? I mean, Sunday night, you got the magic.

2404
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:14,600
Speaker 2: They're looking to go up three games to one, but

2405
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 2: Boston's banged up. You got three starters, Datum, Brown and

2406
02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 2: Holiday are all banged up, suffering some sort of ailment.

2407
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,880
Speaker 2: And if the Celtics want to repeat, you want to

2408
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:29,720
Speaker 2: get this series over with because Cleveland looks to be

2409
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 2: the real deal. Your thoughts on the Celtics quest to repeat,

2410
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,920
Speaker 2: that they have it in them, and how much of

2411
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 2: a threat you believe the Cavaliers are.

2412
02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 16: I think that Cavaliers are definitely a threat. They hold

2413
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:49,080
Speaker 16: the home court advantage. They have beaten the Celtics this

2414
02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:55,720
Speaker 16: year at Boston Garden leading up to the playoffs. Jalen

2415
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:58,720
Speaker 16: Brown to me was not one hundred and I tried

2416
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:02,320
Speaker 16: to tell all the Green nation here, we're got to

2417
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 16: pump the brakes here. We are not healthy. Last year

2418
02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 16: was the perfect storm, Bernie. Every team that we faced,

2419
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 16: their stars were out.

2420
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:12,560
Speaker 7: We were healthy.

2421
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:16,080
Speaker 16: We cruised right through and of course then fac the

2422
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,920
Speaker 16: number five seed with the Dallas Mavericks. This year a

2423
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 16: little different Magic has played well. Uh you know they've

2424
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 16: They've shown flashes. They're just too young right there. Obviously

2425
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 16: looking to win today, get up three to one. Obviously

2426
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:34,200
Speaker 16: you don't want to even the series and come back

2427
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 16: to Boston the best of three after that, I'd expect

2428
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 16: the Celtics to find a way to win today. We're

2429
02:10:40,840 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 16: assuming it's the next Bernie. But Pistons have played very,

2430
02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:48,440
Speaker 16: very well in that series as well. But the Calves

2431
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:53,600
Speaker 16: have looked the part. Expect them to sweep the Heat

2432
02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:57,480
Speaker 16: and then Paces. But we are assuming the Paces. But

2433
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 16: you get Giannis and well, but we've been waiting for

2434
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:05,800
Speaker 16: a while. It's setting up for a Cabs Boston that series.

2435
02:11:05,880 --> 02:11:09,840
Speaker 16: Bernie will go six or seven. Neither team is going

2436
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:12,000
Speaker 16: to run either one of them out of the building.

2437
02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 2: Should be interesting to see. I know the Lakers are

2438
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 2: looking tired already, but I know the NBA would love

2439
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 2: dearly to see a Celtics Lakers finals, although it seems

2440
02:11:21,120 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 2: to like a pipe dream at this point. Jeff, great stuff,

2441
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 2: as always is we get toward the NBA Finals, Boston's

2442
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,000
Speaker 2: around certainly want to get you back on to get

2443
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 2: your thoughts on one other things. So appreciate you as always, Jeff.

2444
02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 16: Bernie, I'll be here for you whatever you need.

2445
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:38,200
Speaker 2: Have a great, great Sunday, Thanks Palace. Jeff Dawson, e

2446
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:41,920
Speaker 2: CI Sports Consultant. It didn't really have a chance to

2447
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:46,360
Speaker 2: get into some of the draft betting scenarios, but it's

2448
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:49,080
Speaker 2: become less and less of an item over over the years.

2449
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:52,720
Speaker 2: We'll get to look ahead some NFL futures in the

2450
02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:54,600
Speaker 2: next few months as we get closer to the season

2451
02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:57,920
Speaker 2: with Jeff. By the way, you can stream this show

2452
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 2: and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty

2453
02:12:02,040 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 2: four to seven in the new and improved iHeartRadio app.

2454
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Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app to stream

2455
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 2: us live. And one of the newest features in the

2456
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Speaker 2: app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio is

2457
02:12:12,800 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 2: one of the presets, just like the presets on your

2458
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 2: radio dial. So be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio

2459
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:21,520
Speaker 2: in the iHeartRadio app and it will always pop up

2460
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 2: at the top of your screen. I want to talk

2461
02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:29,040
Speaker 2: Nil Transfer Portal and the Circle of life. If you

2462
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:34,280
Speaker 2: followed what happened after Nico Yama Liada left Tennessee and

2463
02:12:34,320 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 2: who they replaced him with. If you submitted this as

2464
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:39,880
Speaker 2: a Hollywood script, they'd laugh you off. And by the way,

2465
02:12:40,440 --> 02:12:43,920
Speaker 2: irband Meyer, you owe Tennessee an apology. I'll tell you

2466
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:49,920
Speaker 2: who Tennessee got back and is replacing nico Ah the

2467
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,400
Speaker 2: Circle of Life. You'll see what I mean when I

2468
02:12:52,720 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 2: share the story. I'm Bernie frederwer Kenedy Lyn from the

2469
02:12:56,280 --> 02:13:00,120
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Stick and stay. It's

2470
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:01,800
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2471
02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:05,320
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2472
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:08,760
Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2473
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,960
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

2474
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 4: listen live.

2475
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:17,920
Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

2476
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:21,080
Speaker 2: coming to you live from the Las Vegas compound here

2477
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:24,760
Speaker 2: of Fox Sports Radio. And as I mentioned earlier in

2478
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:26,640
Speaker 2: the show, I was not going to get through tonight

2479
02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:33,400
Speaker 2: without referencing this crazy transfer portal. Not just in men's basketball,

2480
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:37,320
Speaker 2: of which I believe closed last week two fety nine

2481
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 2: players entered the portal. The football portal, though, is the

2482
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,760
Speaker 2: one that really is making the headlines, and I want

2483
02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:47,360
Speaker 2: to revisit his story. We started a couple of weeks ago,

2484
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:50,760
Speaker 2: three weeks ago, and for what it's worth, don't we

2485
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:54,000
Speaker 2: don't have the final numbers on the Football Transfer Portal

2486
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:58,240
Speaker 2: as of yet, but to get some perspective, the first

2487
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:02,360
Speaker 2: year there were like fifteen hundred and sixty one players transferred.

2488
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:05,600
Speaker 2: Then that's morphed into the years at twenty three and

2489
02:14:05,680 --> 02:14:10,879
Speaker 2: twenty four, a total of eleven thousand players eleven thousand

2490
02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:14,480
Speaker 2: over to your span evident to portal. But if there

2491
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:18,760
Speaker 2: was any transfer story that got the raised the eyebrows

2492
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:23,400
Speaker 2: of coaches or administrators or agents or anybody who's a

2493
02:14:23,560 --> 02:14:28,200
Speaker 2: fan or observer of college athletics, If there's any transfer

2494
02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:32,000
Speaker 2: story that got people really buzzing the past few weeks,

2495
02:14:32,640 --> 02:14:37,000
Speaker 2: it was the crazy situation surrounding Tennessee and their former

2496
02:14:37,080 --> 02:14:42,880
Speaker 2: quarterback Nico aama Liava. Now, the rumors were that he

2497
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:46,600
Speaker 2: was holding out for a better deal. All right, he

2498
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 2: was getting two point four million from Tennessee. It was

2499
02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:52,680
Speaker 2: reported allegedly he wanted four million. The kid from Duke

2500
02:14:52,760 --> 02:14:55,840
Speaker 2: got four million, and Carson Beck got ten million. And

2501
02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:58,320
Speaker 2: then of course they denied it, said, no, this isn't

2502
02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:00,640
Speaker 2: a holdout. I was just worried about the the offense,

2503
02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:06,800
Speaker 2: and okay, I don't care what your story is. Nico

2504
02:15:06,920 --> 02:15:10,040
Speaker 2: was a highly recruited quarterback coming out of Southern California.

2505
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 2: He's Peers and he's returned home to Southern California, and

2506
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:17,720
Speaker 2: we'll play for Ucla because remember him and his family

2507
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:20,080
Speaker 2: said they were worried about the offense, So sure, why

2508
02:15:20,120 --> 02:15:24,440
Speaker 2: not leave Tennessee a prolific offensive team and go to Ucla.

2509
02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:26,720
Speaker 2: I believe they ranked one hundred and eighteenth in offense

2510
02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:30,280
Speaker 2: last year. Maybe he can get them to move up

2511
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:33,640
Speaker 2: the ranks. I don't know how much he's making. I've

2512
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:37,880
Speaker 2: heard allegedly it's a less than a million dollars. So

2513
02:15:38,080 --> 02:15:39,880
Speaker 2: for maybe it really wasn't about the money, because he

2514
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:44,440
Speaker 2: left two point four million to get a million. It

2515
02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:47,720
Speaker 2: would have been nice to in the perfect world, he

2516
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 2: stays in Tennessee, has a good year, and he enters

2517
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:52,680
Speaker 2: the draft and he's only twenty years old and the

2518
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:57,680
Speaker 2: world is oyster. He's got NFL potential. Okay, what was

2519
02:15:57,760 --> 02:16:03,080
Speaker 2: bothersim about the ordeal was just a couple of days

2520
02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:06,520
Speaker 2: before the Tennessee Vall spring game. The tension had risen

2521
02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:09,280
Speaker 2: to such a such a level, and it had been

2522
02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:14,320
Speaker 2: simmering that he just up and left and left the

2523
02:16:14,360 --> 02:16:18,720
Speaker 2: team in the lurch and I think the general consensus

2524
02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:23,959
Speaker 2: was that iam Aliava just outplayed his leverage. He overplayed

2525
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:26,880
Speaker 2: his hand instead of returning to Knoxville on what was

2526
02:16:27,080 --> 02:16:29,680
Speaker 2: a pretty lucrative contract, I think two point four million.

2527
02:16:29,720 --> 02:16:31,920
Speaker 2: So now he'll get closer to home and it looks

2528
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:36,119
Speaker 2: like he'll he'll play for UCLA. And by the way,

2529
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:42,080
Speaker 2: that's that whole decision kind of set a domino effect

2530
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:46,760
Speaker 2: happening because on top of Yamiliava and his younger brother,

2531
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:52,120
Speaker 2: Madden Yamiljava via the Arkansas Razorbacks committing to UCLA, a

2532
02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:54,880
Speaker 2: bunch of other quarterbacks changed scenery. And I'm about to

2533
02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 2: get to my point. He see, here's what's funny. Urban

2534
02:16:59,720 --> 02:17:01,800
Speaker 2: Meyer waited in a couple of weeks ago and said, oh,

2535
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:05,880
Speaker 2: Tennessee screwed. They had themselves a good quarterback and now

2536
02:17:06,160 --> 02:17:07,680
Speaker 2: they got nothing. They got a kid on the bench

2537
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:11,200
Speaker 2: through six passes last year. As Lee Corso would say,

2538
02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:16,800
Speaker 2: not so fast. My friend enter Joey Aguilar. Joey Aguilar

2539
02:17:18,400 --> 02:17:23,000
Speaker 2: was matriculating at Appalachian State. He was a starter and

2540
02:17:23,160 --> 02:17:27,240
Speaker 2: and by the way, uh, the u c l A

2541
02:17:27,520 --> 02:17:31,360
Speaker 2: staff really liked him in terms of their Scotty report

2542
02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:34,600
Speaker 2: and for good reason. Now here's the beauty of it

2543
02:17:34,760 --> 02:17:37,240
Speaker 2: and why I referred to this as the circle of life.

2544
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:43,640
Speaker 2: When Nico IAmA Liava entered the NCAA Transfer portal following

2545
02:17:43,720 --> 02:17:45,840
Speaker 2: this dispute over the nideal, a couple of weeks ago,

2546
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:50,320
Speaker 2: folks were wondering who Tennessee would get to take a

2547
02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:53,440
Speaker 2: spot under center because he left some fairly big shoes

2548
02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:59,480
Speaker 2: to fill. Let's be honest, Well, the irony among all ironies.

2549
02:18:00,480 --> 02:18:03,800
Speaker 2: It turns out it happens to be the guy IAmA

2550
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:07,040
Speaker 2: Liava forced out of UCLA when he announced his commitment

2551
02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:10,840
Speaker 2: to the Bruins a couple sundays ago because Joey Aguilar,

2552
02:18:11,600 --> 02:18:18,200
Speaker 2: who transferred from Appalachian State to UCLA once he found

2553
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:22,080
Speaker 2: out that Nico was coming. Nico said, of course, my

2554
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 2: journey at ut has come to an end. Cool. This

2555
02:18:24,520 --> 02:18:27,880
Speaker 2: decision was incredibly difficult, truthfully, not something I expected to

2556
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:30,360
Speaker 2: make this soon, but I trust God's timing. What does

2557
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:32,440
Speaker 2: God's timing have to do with you blown out of

2558
02:18:32,480 --> 02:18:34,920
Speaker 2: there because you said you want a two point four

2559
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:37,840
Speaker 2: million and they didn't give it to you. All right?

2560
02:18:38,040 --> 02:18:41,360
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Even though this chapter is ending, a new

2561
02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:43,920
Speaker 2: chapters began and I'm committed to UCLA. I frankly would

2562
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:46,320
Speaker 2: like to use to see UCLA rise back through the

2563
02:18:46,360 --> 02:18:50,840
Speaker 2: football ranks. It's been a long time. Okay again, enter

2564
02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:55,959
Speaker 2: the aforementioned Joey Aguilar. He was a former three star

2565
02:18:56,080 --> 02:19:00,000
Speaker 2: recruit in the class of twenty twenty three who commit

2566
02:19:00,080 --> 02:19:03,400
Speaker 2: hit it to UCLA back in December. Was all set

2567
02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:06,040
Speaker 2: to battle for the starting quarterback job with the Bruins.

2568
02:19:06,280 --> 02:19:09,160
Speaker 2: Probably would have won the job after he transferred from

2569
02:19:09,160 --> 02:19:14,520
Speaker 2: Apple Aachian State, but following Niko's arrival, and by the way,

2570
02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:17,240
Speaker 2: Joey Aguilar is no slot cheater six foot three senior,

2571
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:20,680
Speaker 2: he hit the portal again to find another school where

2572
02:19:20,720 --> 02:19:22,680
Speaker 2: he had to have a legit chance to start. Well,

2573
02:19:22,840 --> 02:19:27,040
Speaker 2: guess what that program just happens to be wait for it,

2574
02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:32,880
Speaker 2: Nico's former school, Tennessee. It's my understanding. Joey Aguilar has

2575
02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:37,560
Speaker 2: signed with the Valves. According to reports on ESPN and

2576
02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 2: heading into the transfer portal, Joey Aguilar was the fourth

2577
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,880
Speaker 2: best quarterback available in the transfer portable. According to on

2578
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:51,240
Speaker 2: three quote, the QB trade is complete. Joey Aguilar plans

2579
02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:55,279
Speaker 2: to sign with Tennessee after transferring to UCLA from Appalachian

2580
02:19:55,360 --> 02:19:59,360
Speaker 2: State in the winter portal. As sources told ESPN, essentially,

2581
02:20:00,480 --> 02:20:04,760
Speaker 2: Joey Aguilar traded places with nico Iyamalaliava, who transferred from

2582
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:08,320
Speaker 2: Tennessee to UCLA and the current portal. Nothing to see here,

2583
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:16,600
Speaker 2: move along. This happened fast, and I if I'm being honest,

2584
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:20,080
Speaker 2: I think Tennessee got themselves a hell of a quarterback.

2585
02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:23,400
Speaker 2: If you look at Aguilar's numbers in two seasons with

2586
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:27,160
Speaker 2: Appalachian State, he threw for about sixty eight hundred yards,

2587
02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:31,880
Speaker 2: fifty six touchdowns, rushed for four fifty two and five scores.

2588
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:36,600
Speaker 2: And his addition gives Josh Heipel, the former quarterback himself

2589
02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:40,760
Speaker 2: options along with the people erb Admyer was talking about.

2590
02:20:40,760 --> 02:20:42,840
Speaker 2: I think the kid's name is George McIntyre. He threw

2591
02:20:43,879 --> 02:20:45,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, Jake Merklinger, I think is a kid to

2592
02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:48,240
Speaker 2: through six passes and he got an incoming freshman. I

2593
02:20:48,320 --> 02:20:51,160
Speaker 2: think Joey Aguilar will start. And by the way, if

2594
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:53,199
Speaker 2: you talk to people in the know in college football

2595
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:57,080
Speaker 2: as a pure pastor, now, Aguilar is not the runner.

2596
02:20:57,240 --> 02:21:01,400
Speaker 2: Is iamailiavi is. He's more of a pocket. But they

2597
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:04,600
Speaker 2: say there are people in camp who say they believe

2598
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:09,600
Speaker 2: Akilar is actually an upgrade as a pure passer over

2599
02:21:09,720 --> 02:21:13,360
Speaker 2: Nico Iamaiava, who's more of a dual threat guy. All right,

2600
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:17,200
Speaker 2: he threw for yama Aliava, threw for twenty six hundred

2601
02:21:17,240 --> 02:21:21,840
Speaker 2: nineteen touchdowns, rash for three fifty eight. Joey Aguilar threw

2602
02:21:21,879 --> 02:21:23,959
Speaker 2: for a lot more than that. This is again his story.

2603
02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:28,960
Speaker 2: We'll be watching and it's college football. Well, look, the

2604
02:21:29,040 --> 02:21:31,160
Speaker 2: future always says a way of arriving at a schedule.

2605
02:21:31,240 --> 02:21:34,800
Speaker 2: College football will be here before you know it. Well,

2606
02:21:34,879 --> 02:21:37,480
Speaker 2: as I say every week, we don't just cover the

2607
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:43,280
Speaker 2: football that is spelled foot b A l L. We

2608
02:21:43,400 --> 02:21:49,840
Speaker 2: also cover the football spelled fut bul nationally and internationally.

2609
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:53,160
Speaker 2: It's time Chris Purfetts World soccer.

2610
02:21:54,520 --> 02:22:05,039
Speaker 20: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

2611
02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:08,440
Speaker 7: I am.

2612
02:22:10,400 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of soccer.

2613
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:18,600
Speaker 21: Major storylines going across Europe. Bernie in the world of soccer.

2614
02:22:19,120 --> 02:22:21,879
Speaker 21: As we wait for the semi finals of the UEFA

2615
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:25,320
Speaker 21: Champions League, which start this week on Tuesday Arsenal and

2616
02:22:25,400 --> 02:22:28,720
Speaker 21: Paris Saint Jermaine, happening at three pm Eastern on CBS,

2617
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:31,800
Speaker 21: we have to acknowledge what a treat this weekend has been,

2618
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:35,840
Speaker 21: starting with l Classico in the Copa del Rey as

2619
02:22:35,959 --> 02:22:40,280
Speaker 21: Barcelona had to take Real Madrid through extra time, a

2620
02:22:40,720 --> 02:22:46,800
Speaker 21: tremendously shippy match, especially with how this started, where Real

2621
02:22:46,879 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 21: Madrid TV putting out a video this season attacking one

2622
02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:55,160
Speaker 21: of the officials that would be refereeing the Copa del

2623
02:22:55,240 --> 02:23:02,280
Speaker 21: Rey match, thirty nine year old Ricardo Burgos Bengos, who

2624
02:23:02,680 --> 02:23:06,920
Speaker 21: apparently the Madrid took umbrage with because of talking about

2625
02:23:06,959 --> 02:23:11,000
Speaker 21: the club's record when he referees the matches. Then before

2626
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:12,640
Speaker 21: the end of the game, there were about three red

2627
02:23:12,720 --> 02:23:16,360
Speaker 21: cards handed out to Real Madrid, who went from a

2628
02:23:16,480 --> 02:23:19,320
Speaker 21: two to one lead in this game to tie it

2629
02:23:19,440 --> 02:23:22,600
Speaker 21: around the end of regulation as Ferron Torres scored the

2630
02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 21: equalizer for Barcelona and then Jules Colnde managed to score

2631
02:23:26,959 --> 02:23:30,840
Speaker 21: the winner at the one hundred and sixteenth minute. Barcelona

2632
02:23:30,879 --> 02:23:33,120
Speaker 21: then held on and took home the Copa del Rey.

2633
02:23:33,800 --> 02:23:39,240
Speaker 21: Classico remains very very fun to watch and Barcelona and

2634
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:41,720
Speaker 21: Real Madrid still trading blows as we come to the

2635
02:23:41,959 --> 02:23:44,920
Speaker 21: end of that season. Four points separating the two in

2636
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:49,240
Speaker 21: La Liga play Napoli and Inter Milan TA Stey remained

2637
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:53,720
Speaker 21: drawn at seventy one points apiece in the Siria table,

2638
02:23:53,959 --> 02:23:57,760
Speaker 21: as Italy looks to be finishing the season almost down

2639
02:23:57,800 --> 02:24:02,000
Speaker 21: to the wire and England could be officially officially done

2640
02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:05,600
Speaker 21: in the Premier League if Liverpool pit picks up just

2641
02:24:05,720 --> 02:24:10,680
Speaker 21: a single point against Tottenham here on Sunday morning.

2642
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:12,720
Speaker 1: Of course, we've known this for a while.

2643
02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:14,320
Speaker 21: As we've talked about in the world of soccer, and

2644
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:17,200
Speaker 21: I've said for probably a close to a month now

2645
02:24:17,600 --> 02:24:22,200
Speaker 21: that Liverpool's title is virtually theirs and that Arsenal, the

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02:24:22,280 --> 02:24:26,040
Speaker 21: club that is still laggedly chasing them, has no real

2647
02:24:26,120 --> 02:24:29,240
Speaker 21: shot to catch up with them. And indeed, on Wednesday

2648
02:24:29,320 --> 02:24:31,840
Speaker 21: a too to two draw against Crystal Palace, who.

2649
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:34,119
Speaker 1: By the way, are going to the FA Cup Final.

2650
02:24:34,280 --> 02:24:40,000
Speaker 21: Crystal Palace has left Arsenal incapable of catching up. And

2651
02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:42,800
Speaker 21: to be honest, fine, they have the Champions League to

2652
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:46,840
Speaker 21: play for. The title is Liverpool's. It's just a matter

2653
02:24:46,879 --> 02:24:50,000
Speaker 21: of formality at this point. Relegation is basically sewn up.

2654
02:24:50,040 --> 02:24:53,000
Speaker 21: So what is there really to talk about in England? Well,

2655
02:24:53,720 --> 02:24:58,680
Speaker 21: what about rexhum Bernie? The Hollywood story continues for the

2656
02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:03,200
Speaker 21: little else club taken into an interest of Ryan Reynold

2657
02:25:03,240 --> 02:25:07,080
Speaker 21: and Rob McIlhaney taking them from the fifth division National

2658
02:25:07,160 --> 02:25:11,880
Speaker 21: League to English League One and they will be headed

2659
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:17,680
Speaker 21: up to the Championship. And the Championship is one step

2660
02:25:17,879 --> 02:25:22,000
Speaker 21: below the Premier League, which means that this is as

2661
02:25:22,040 --> 02:25:25,760
Speaker 21: about as big as you can get. Three promotions three

2662
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:30,920
Speaker 21: years that is unheard of. It's almost unprecedented, it is.

2663
02:25:32,520 --> 02:25:35,119
Speaker 21: It's being described across there as a miracle. A three

2664
02:25:35,240 --> 02:25:39,200
Speaker 21: NIERL win over Charlton actually allowed Wrexham to move to

2665
02:25:39,400 --> 02:25:44,000
Speaker 21: second place here with just one match day to go

2666
02:25:44,320 --> 02:25:47,920
Speaker 21: and clinching second place. If they had fallen at all,

2667
02:25:48,040 --> 02:25:51,360
Speaker 21: they would have had to play in a promotion playoff.

2668
02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:55,560
Speaker 21: No club in English football has ever been promoted in

2669
02:25:55,840 --> 02:26:00,800
Speaker 21: three consecutive seasons until now. This is not been done

2670
02:26:00,879 --> 02:26:03,960
Speaker 21: before and they will move up to the EFL Championship

2671
02:26:04,280 --> 02:26:07,440
Speaker 21: here and this is where the real hard work is

2672
02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:11,800
Speaker 21: going to begin. Wrexham is celebrating like crazy and they should.

2673
02:26:12,440 --> 02:26:15,520
Speaker 21: This is unbelievable and there's going to be a day

2674
02:26:15,560 --> 02:26:18,080
Speaker 21: that will come where we'll have to start to talk

2675
02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:21,400
Speaker 21: about how much more difficult it is in the Championship

2676
02:26:21,560 --> 02:26:24,720
Speaker 21: with some tremendously great clubs who come up and down

2677
02:26:25,080 --> 02:26:28,360
Speaker 21: from the Premier League all the time in clubs in

2678
02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:31,520
Speaker 21: there by the way that also feature plenty of celebrities

2679
02:26:31,560 --> 02:26:34,320
Speaker 21: who have decided to throw their weight in following the

2680
02:26:34,360 --> 02:26:37,480
Speaker 21: Wrexham model and back some of these clubs out there,

2681
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:41,320
Speaker 21: like for example, Burnley with JJ Watt as one of

2682
02:26:41,360 --> 02:26:44,200
Speaker 21: their celebrity heads, who is getting promoted to the Premiership

2683
02:26:44,320 --> 02:26:48,760
Speaker 21: along with a very big favorite in Leeds United, who

2684
02:26:48,800 --> 02:26:51,000
Speaker 21: happens to have a lot of American players on it.

2685
02:26:51,040 --> 02:26:53,280
Speaker 21: And I know a lot of my friends tend to

2686
02:26:53,400 --> 02:26:55,960
Speaker 21: keep up with Leeds United. Or what about a team

2687
02:26:56,040 --> 02:27:00,720
Speaker 21: that's joining Wrexham up to the Championship in Burmingham City

2688
02:27:00,840 --> 02:27:02,279
Speaker 21: one of their minority.

2689
02:27:01,879 --> 02:27:03,720
Speaker 1: Owners, Tom Brady.

2690
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:06,160
Speaker 21: The difficult world work will begin. And I know I've

2691
02:27:06,160 --> 02:27:08,160
Speaker 21: already kind of like come in here and said, hey,

2692
02:27:08,240 --> 02:27:11,520
Speaker 21: the rocky roads ahead for Wrexham. But again, no other

2693
02:27:11,600 --> 02:27:13,640
Speaker 21: club has done what they have done. This will be

2694
02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:17,440
Speaker 21: a tremendous story for the FX series, a tremendous story

2695
02:27:17,640 --> 02:27:20,520
Speaker 21: for a club in Wales with a passionate, passionate fan

2696
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:24,160
Speaker 21: base who's seen it come practically from the dead to

2697
02:27:24,760 --> 02:27:29,240
Speaker 21: the top flight of the English Football League and perchance

2698
02:27:29,400 --> 02:27:32,960
Speaker 21: on the doorstep of the Premier League. A return to

2699
02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:36,320
Speaker 21: glory if there has ever been one for Wrexham, and

2700
02:27:36,400 --> 02:27:38,400
Speaker 21: it should be celebrated far and wide.

2701
02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:40,400
Speaker 1: And yes, I do say a return to glory.

2702
02:27:40,520 --> 02:27:44,480
Speaker 21: Wrexham has had very ancient success in its past measured

2703
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:47,800
Speaker 21: against the success of its time. This is a lesson

2704
02:27:47,879 --> 02:27:50,480
Speaker 21: in all sports, and it is especially true against soccer.

2705
02:27:50,720 --> 02:27:54,520
Speaker 21: Nothing ever truly dies. You're just waiting for its rebirth

2706
02:27:54,600 --> 02:27:57,480
Speaker 21: at any point, and we wait for better things to

2707
02:27:57,720 --> 02:28:00,240
Speaker 21: rise from the ashes, and we shall do that here

2708
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:01,080
Speaker 21: on the world of soccer.

2709
02:28:01,160 --> 02:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Bernie, we bid you.

2710
02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:06,400
Speaker 21: Ado Champions League semi finals first legs are starting this week.

2711
02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:07,920
Speaker 21: That's a wonderful, wonderful time.

2712
02:28:10,600 --> 02:28:13,880
Speaker 2: Well, let me give this some perspective, because Rexham could

2713
02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:16,680
Speaker 2: actually make the Premier League, the English Premier League, and

2714
02:28:16,800 --> 02:28:19,160
Speaker 2: even the most casual observer knows what an English Premier

2715
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:23,960
Speaker 2: League is. And for Wrexham to do that, they need

2716
02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:26,280
Speaker 2: to win their championship or finish in the top two

2717
02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:30,080
Speaker 2: during the automatic promotion. I'll give us some perspective. If

2718
02:28:30,120 --> 02:28:32,720
Speaker 2: Rexham made it to the English Premier League next year,

2719
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:35,480
Speaker 2: that would be like the Cleveland Browns with Shudur Center

2720
02:28:35,480 --> 02:28:38,440
Speaker 2: as a quarterback making him to the Super Bowl next year.

2721
02:28:39,040 --> 02:28:43,320
Speaker 2: That's how unprecedented this is for Ryan Reynolds and Wrexham

2722
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:46,520
Speaker 2: is doing. They've got a significant challenge ahead of them,

2723
02:28:46,560 --> 02:28:49,560
Speaker 2: but look what they've done to this point. Just saying,

2724
02:28:49,640 --> 02:28:52,600
Speaker 2: coming up, we wrap up the show and let's take

2725
02:28:52,600 --> 02:28:55,480
Speaker 2: a little walk down memory lane. All right, it is

2726
02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:59,400
Speaker 2: not the worst thing that Shudor Sanders was drafted in

2727
02:28:59,480 --> 02:29:01,040
Speaker 2: the fifth roe. As a matter of fact, if we

2728
02:29:01,120 --> 02:29:03,800
Speaker 2: live throughout history, there have been a lot of quarterbacks

2729
02:29:04,520 --> 02:29:08,080
Speaker 2: names you will definitely recognize who drafted in the fifth

2730
02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:11,120
Speaker 2: round who went on to make a name for themselves. Well,

2731
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:15,560
Speaker 2: I dated for the third time called shador Dion. Will

2732
02:29:15,560 --> 02:29:17,520
Speaker 2: Shudor be one of those? Will his name be out

2733
02:29:17,560 --> 02:29:20,959
Speaker 2: of the list? Well, I'll give you the list. Coming up,

2734
02:29:21,360 --> 02:29:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're coming to line from the Las

2735
02:29:23,160 --> 02:29:25,920
Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked right here.

2736
02:29:25,959 --> 02:29:28,199
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fradtle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2737
02:29:29,560 --> 02:29:31,760
Speaker 2: All right, wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show.

2738
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:34,760
Speaker 2: Come to you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

2739
02:29:34,879 --> 02:29:37,720
Speaker 2: Radio compound. Before I go any further, I want to

2740
02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:42,560
Speaker 2: thank my broadcast team. I think my producers, Mark and Brianna.

2741
02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:46,040
Speaker 2: Excellent job to I greatly appreciate all the efforts in

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Speaker 2: turning all the dials and keeping the show on the air,

2743
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:54,199
Speaker 2: keeping us glued together. Thanks so much so. Shador Sanders

2744
02:29:54,360 --> 02:29:56,240
Speaker 2: was drafted in the fifth round, one hundred and forty

2745
02:29:56,280 --> 02:29:57,000
Speaker 2: fourth overall.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I I.

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02:30:03,400 --> 02:30:05,520
Speaker 2: I want to say that is that is not the

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02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:08,200
Speaker 2: worst thing. That is not the worst thing. And if

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Speaker 2: here's the bottom line. There have been many quarterbacks over

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02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:41,160
Speaker 2: the years that have been drafted in the fifth round,

2758
02:30:42,160 --> 02:30:44,720
Speaker 2: and more than you think, more than you may realize,

2759
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:48,240
Speaker 2: many of them actually went on to have quite you know,

2760
02:30:48,440 --> 02:30:51,400
Speaker 2: productive careers in the National Football League. And you can

2761
02:30:51,440 --> 02:30:53,800
Speaker 2: start by going back fifty years. I'm sure you remember

2762
02:30:53,879 --> 02:30:56,879
Speaker 2: Steve Grogan of the New England Patriots. He won seventy

2763
02:30:56,959 --> 02:31:00,720
Speaker 2: five games as a starter through for over twenty seven yards,

2764
02:31:01,440 --> 02:31:06,320
Speaker 2: and that's nothing to sneeze at. Mark Brunell coming out

2765
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:11,720
Speaker 2: of Washington in the early nineties now very solid reporter

2766
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:13,560
Speaker 2: who had one hundred and fifty starts in the NFL,

2767
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:17,400
Speaker 2: won seventy eight games through for over thirty two thousand yards.

2768
02:31:17,959 --> 02:31:20,560
Speaker 2: Was one of the one of the better all time

2769
02:31:20,720 --> 02:31:23,959
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packer quarterbacks, of course, behind you know farv

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02:31:24,040 --> 02:31:30,640
Speaker 2: and behind Aran Rodgers, et cetera. But he was seventy

2771
02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:33,320
Speaker 2: eight and seventy three as a starter. Threugh fo one

2772
02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:36,160
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty four touchdowns. He threw for seventy six

2773
02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:39,760
Speaker 2: more touchdowns and interceptions then I'm sure you've seen Dan Arlofski.

2774
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:43,080
Speaker 2: I covered the Dan Arlofski Lions. Arlawski signed with the

2775
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:46,720
Speaker 2: Lions in seven. He unfortunately was part of that infamous

2776
02:31:47,879 --> 02:31:52,320
Speaker 2: Ole in sixteen team in two thousand and eight, the

2777
02:31:52,520 --> 02:31:55,119
Speaker 2: last year I covered the Lions in an official capacity.

2778
02:31:55,920 --> 02:31:58,280
Speaker 2: I know he's most remembered for running out of the

2779
02:31:58,360 --> 02:32:00,360
Speaker 2: end zone in the game against the Minnesota by Kingson.

2780
02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:03,400
Speaker 2: They lost twelve to ten that day, but dan Orlowski.

2781
02:32:03,440 --> 02:32:05,640
Speaker 2: He had twelve starts in the NFL. He got his

2782
02:32:05,879 --> 02:32:10,040
Speaker 2: chance and he was drafted in the fifth round. Now,

2783
02:32:10,040 --> 02:32:13,200
Speaker 2: I remember Troy Smith coming out of Ohio State. He

2784
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:15,600
Speaker 2: was drafted by the Baltimore Ravens. And this is almost

2785
02:32:15,640 --> 02:32:19,119
Speaker 2: twenty years ago now, and he's like twenty oh seven,

2786
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:23,400
Speaker 2: and the scouting of quarterbacks was a little different than

2787
02:32:23,480 --> 02:32:25,600
Speaker 2: Troy Smith's game actually would have translated a little bit

2788
02:32:25,640 --> 02:32:30,039
Speaker 2: more in this current climate. But look, he had eight starts.

2789
02:32:30,080 --> 02:32:32,360
Speaker 2: He was four and four. Never made a big name

2790
02:32:32,400 --> 02:32:35,080
Speaker 2: for himself with Baltimore. Another guy drafted a year later

2791
02:32:35,120 --> 02:32:38,119
Speaker 2: who's been on about sixteen teams in the NFL, Josh

2792
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:41,440
Speaker 2: Johnson to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He hasn't had a

2793
02:32:41,440 --> 02:32:43,200
Speaker 2: lot of starts, but he's had a job in the

2794
02:32:43,360 --> 02:32:48,320
Speaker 2: NFL for over a decade. Another Green Bay Packer starter,

2795
02:32:49,320 --> 02:32:51,600
Speaker 2: well sort of. He had nine starts, but was given

2796
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:55,840
Speaker 2: every opportunity. Brett Hunley out of UCLA obviously well before

2797
02:32:57,160 --> 02:33:01,520
Speaker 2: you know Jordan got there. Look at the bottom line

2798
02:33:01,640 --> 02:33:05,120
Speaker 2: is he had his chance. He had nine starts through

2799
02:33:05,160 --> 02:33:08,959
Speaker 2: for two thousand yards. Never was able to acquit himself

2800
02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:14,200
Speaker 2: well as a starter, consistent starter, Brett Hunley in Green Bay,

2801
02:33:14,440 --> 02:33:19,959
Speaker 2: but nonetheless had his chance. Nathan Peterman maybe more near

2802
02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:23,000
Speaker 2: the bottom of the barrel on this list. Twenty seventeen.

2803
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:26,120
Speaker 2: You know, Buffalo Bills. He had five starts in the

2804
02:33:26,200 --> 02:33:29,360
Speaker 2: National Football League. He's bounced around quite a bit. He's

2805
02:33:29,480 --> 02:33:31,480
Speaker 2: probably on a lot of taxi squadron not even though

2806
02:33:31,480 --> 02:33:34,600
Speaker 2: they don't call it that anymore. Mike White signed with

2807
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:38,959
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys in twenty eighteen and again only had

2808
02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:42,240
Speaker 2: seven starts in the NFL, but had his chance. Sam

2809
02:33:42,320 --> 02:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Howe coincidentally, this is crazy. You can't make this stuff up. Quincidentally,

2810
02:33:50,160 --> 02:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Sam Howe drafted in twenty twenty two by the Washington Commanders.

2811
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:59,440
Speaker 2: He was just dealt to the Minnesota Vikings. I believe

2812
02:33:59,520 --> 02:34:03,520
Speaker 2: Saturday he's had eighteen starts in his career in the NFL.

2813
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:06,640
Speaker 2: He's only five and thirteen I get that. Twenty two touchdowns,

2814
02:34:06,680 --> 02:34:09,480
Speaker 2: twenty three picks. He was drafted one hundred and forty

2815
02:34:09,520 --> 02:34:15,400
Speaker 2: fourth overall, just like Schudor Sanders, but he had his start. Finally,

2816
02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:19,560
Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler, who still has an opportunity to win the

2817
02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:23,240
Speaker 2: job with the Saints again this year. He's not lit

2818
02:34:23,320 --> 02:34:26,600
Speaker 2: it up he's owned six as a starter, four touchdowns,

2819
02:34:26,640 --> 02:34:32,400
Speaker 2: five interceptions. But look, you know, none of the quarterbacks

2820
02:34:32,560 --> 02:34:34,959
Speaker 2: picked in the fifth round had become regular starters over

2821
02:34:34,959 --> 02:34:38,440
Speaker 2: the last thirty years. Only one fifth round quarterbacks ever

2822
02:34:38,520 --> 02:34:40,959
Speaker 2: made the Hall of Fame. That was the legendary Bob

2823
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:45,199
Speaker 2: Waterfield of the Rams. But those names I just gave you, Okay,

2824
02:34:46,640 --> 02:34:51,080
Speaker 2: they're familiar names if you follow football, So slice it

2825
02:34:51,160 --> 02:34:55,560
Speaker 2: this way. Shudor Sanders is now an NFL quarterback. If

2826
02:34:55,600 --> 02:34:59,000
Speaker 2: he follows the path of every one of these names

2827
02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:01,800
Speaker 2: I just met, he's going to get a minimum with

2828
02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:04,600
Speaker 2: six starts in the NFL and perhaps as many as

2829
02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:08,959
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty like Mark Brunell did. Now we've

2830
02:35:09,040 --> 02:35:13,800
Speaker 2: come full circle. Look, I talked about this at the

2831
02:35:13,840 --> 02:35:19,600
Speaker 2: top of the show. Why did Shidor Sanders slide? And

2832
02:35:19,840 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 2: I do not buy this narrative that you know, all

2833
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:26,200
Speaker 2: the stuff coming out of people's mouths Friday night was

2834
02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:29,200
Speaker 2: really crazy. Oh how could thirty two teams pass on

2835
02:35:29,240 --> 02:35:32,520
Speaker 2: the thirty two teams didn't pass on them? Because of

2836
02:35:32,680 --> 02:35:36,160
Speaker 2: those thirty two teams, most likely a maximum of twelve,

2837
02:35:36,360 --> 02:35:41,119
Speaker 2: more likely eight, we're on the market for a quarterback.

2838
02:35:42,120 --> 02:35:44,440
Speaker 2: So really only eight to twelve teams passed on him

2839
02:35:44,760 --> 02:35:47,400
Speaker 2: all those rounds, including the team that drafted him Cleveland

2840
02:35:47,720 --> 02:35:52,080
Speaker 2: six times. So let's set the record straight. And when

2841
02:35:52,080 --> 02:35:55,080
Speaker 2: people started to say it's personal, it's personally, it became pal.

2842
02:35:55,360 --> 02:35:58,840
Speaker 2: I got news for you. It's always personal. I talked

2843
02:35:58,840 --> 02:36:01,760
Speaker 2: to you, I talked earlier. It linked about the evaluation

2844
02:36:02,000 --> 02:36:06,680
Speaker 2: process he did. Scouts and personnel directors and teams go

2845
02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:10,040
Speaker 2: through an exhausting process, or really get to know the

2846
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:14,280
Speaker 2: gentleman that you don't door is going to get a

2847
02:36:14,320 --> 02:36:16,120
Speaker 2: four year deal for about five million bucks. It's not

2848
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:18,760
Speaker 2: the steez AT's on first round money if he'd been

2849
02:36:18,840 --> 02:36:21,760
Speaker 2: drafted by Pittsburgh, a guy eighteen million dollars. But it's

2850
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:26,160
Speaker 2: always personal. I told you I covered ten drafts on

2851
02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:28,640
Speaker 2: an official capacity for the Lions between ninety eight o eight,

2852
02:36:28,840 --> 02:36:33,160
Speaker 2: saw it all part of the Lions pre and post broadcasting.

2853
02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:36,040
Speaker 2: One year, I want to say it was two thousand

2854
02:36:36,080 --> 02:36:39,920
Speaker 2: and six, the Lions passed on a draft choice because,

2855
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:42,640
Speaker 2: wait for it, you don't think it's personal. The report

2856
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:48,080
Speaker 2: of the guy had bad breath, not joking. Something about

2857
02:36:48,160 --> 02:36:51,280
Speaker 2: that triggered one of the Lions' scouts. He didn't like

2858
02:36:51,360 --> 02:36:53,960
Speaker 2: it just thought it was bad attention to detail. It

2859
02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:58,160
Speaker 2: said something about the individual, and they did not draft

2860
02:36:58,200 --> 02:37:01,879
Speaker 2: that player. And that's just the way it is. So, look,

2861
02:37:02,520 --> 02:37:08,440
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, He's going to have an opportunity, and you know,

2862
02:37:09,200 --> 02:37:13,880
Speaker 2: will he redeem himself or will other teams regret not

2863
02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:19,040
Speaker 2: taking Shudor Sanders. Like mel Kiper said, why did he slide?

2864
02:37:19,200 --> 02:37:21,880
Speaker 2: And I'll say it again for the third time. The

2865
02:37:21,959 --> 02:37:25,320
Speaker 2: reason he slid is because the number that had been

2866
02:37:25,400 --> 02:37:28,199
Speaker 2: banded about top five, two or three. The only people

2867
02:37:28,240 --> 02:37:31,080
Speaker 2: who seemed confident Sanders would be in that area were

2868
02:37:31,560 --> 02:37:34,760
Speaker 2: people named Sanders and his agents and his PR team

2869
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:36,840
Speaker 2: and his posse. And then a few of the media

2870
02:37:36,920 --> 02:37:39,360
Speaker 2: members glombed on to this and it became the group

2871
02:37:39,440 --> 02:37:43,240
Speaker 2: think echo chamber, and that's what it becomes. Bothersome nobody

2872
02:37:43,320 --> 02:37:46,280
Speaker 2: I talked to in the NFL or people I know

2873
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:49,400
Speaker 2: that would be qualified to comment. Had him graded as

2874
02:37:49,440 --> 02:37:52,040
Speaker 2: a first round choice, that's not the end of the world.

2875
02:37:52,280 --> 02:37:57,240
Speaker 2: And perhaps had Shudor Sanders taken advantage of opportunities at

2876
02:37:57,280 --> 02:38:01,360
Speaker 2: the Shrine Bowl and the NFL Combine to compete against

2877
02:38:01,400 --> 02:38:03,200
Speaker 2: others and improve, he was ready to lead an NFL

2878
02:38:03,280 --> 02:38:07,800
Speaker 2: team right away. But he opted against doing that instead

2879
02:38:07,800 --> 02:38:11,640
Speaker 2: of claiming, you know that, hey, look at my college tape,

2880
02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:14,280
Speaker 2: that's all NFL teams need to see. Well, turns out

2881
02:38:14,320 --> 02:38:18,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't. And I would say Shudor's approach to this

2882
02:38:18,480 --> 02:38:23,120
Speaker 2: whole pre daft process, pre draft process should be a

2883
02:38:23,280 --> 02:38:25,959
Speaker 2: cautionary tale and what not to do for future quarterbacks.

2884
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:29,640
Speaker 2: Don't you simply declare yourself something you are and hope

2885
02:38:29,680 --> 02:38:32,840
Speaker 2: nobody checks you out on it. The reality here Sanders

2886
02:38:32,959 --> 02:38:36,440
Speaker 2: is a good football player. He's potentially a very quality prospect,

2887
02:38:36,520 --> 02:38:39,720
Speaker 2: someone who could eventually turn into a functional starter as

2888
02:38:39,760 --> 02:38:41,640
Speaker 2: long as Cleveland surrounds him with some talent and he

2889
02:38:41,760 --> 02:38:43,800
Speaker 2: wins the job. He's got a long way to go.

2890
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:47,320
Speaker 2: We'll see. There are still questions about his arm, talent,

2891
02:38:47,440 --> 02:38:50,920
Speaker 2: his size, his pocket processing, and let's be honest, he's

2892
02:38:50,959 --> 02:38:53,880
Speaker 2: a good kid, but his overconfidence rubbs some people the

2893
02:38:53,920 --> 02:38:56,039
Speaker 2: wrong way. It's gonna do it for the Bernie Fraters Show.

2894
02:38:56,080 --> 02:38:57,720
Speaker 2: See you next week. Keep it locked up next to

2895
02:38:57,800 --> 02:38:59,760
Speaker 2: great Andy Ferman, Fox Sports Radio.