1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hey, wake up you. You won't believe the dream I 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: just had. But don't you want to hear about it? 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: All right? 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Bom, what is it? 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 3: So? 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: I was an innkeeper in this crazy little talented but. 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: Not I'm happy for you. 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: You know. 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Nothing nothing made sense in this place. I mean the 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: the maid was an heiress. Her husband talked in alliteration 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: that the handyman kept missing the point of things. And 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: then there were these three woods, but only one of 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: them talked. That settles it no more Japanese before you 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: go to bed Ron an Inian, you. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 4: Know, no starts we handled. No starts are always difficult 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: for repair shop because you're always pushing something. You know, 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 4: in most cases, you know if it's a if it's 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: a if it's a no fuel problem, you can drive 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 4: the vehicle in on propane if you know how to 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: do it with a small bottle and Bill luck the 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: car doctor. 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: If I put it over just on seat and don't 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: have the AC on, it still stays super cold. 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 4: Okay. If you haven't set the call, then the AC 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: is going to be on. It doesn't it doesn't care position. 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: That's that's a primitive system. 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio Home of Ron and Aanian the 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: Car Doctor since nineteen ninety one. This is where car 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 5: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 5: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 5: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 5: are open. 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: But I am here to take your calls at eight 34 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: five five five six oh ninety nine hundred and now 35 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: he running this shows for Bob. You know, it's great 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: to sit here with you each and every week and 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: talk cars and talk about talking about cars and everything 38 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: that I get to do with you. It really, it 39 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: really is. The great Bob Newhart pass this week, no secret, right, 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: And I was reading the news about him in one 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: of his interviews. You know, I followed Bob. I like 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: Bob Newhart. He was one of my favorites, he really was. 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: And he was doing a TV commercial somewhere, I think 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: it's said back in the seventies, late seventies, early eighties, 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: and they asked him to change his approach in the 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: way that he talks so that he wouldn't stammer and 47 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 4: he wouldn't have any haw and you know, in short, 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: stop being him. And he told the producer director at 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: the time he said, listen, that Stammer brought me at 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: Beverly Hulls home. So I'm not changing anything. It's working. 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 4: And you know, I got to admire that, I really do, 52 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 4: because that's a tough thing to do and say in 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: the media business, and yet he did. I think it's 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 4: the same way in order repair. You know, it's tough 55 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: to stay true to form because there's so many outside pressures. 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: There's so many things that beat on you each and 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: every week as a shop owner, as a mechanic, as 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: a person. You know, just all the things that seemed 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: to seep in past the walls if you'll let them 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: the ooze, and then when you least expect it, the 61 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 4: US gets wiped away. You know, I got a letter 62 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: this week from Billy in Colorado, and I read you 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 4: this not out of ego and not out of self satisfaction, 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: but just to let you guys know how much I 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 4: love you and appreciate you and being able to be 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: here and do this, because like you, I'm just kind 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: of finding my way through too as well. You know, 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: it's we're all on that on that journey. Hey, Ron, 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 4: A little story. I hope you find gratifying the other day, 70 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: I was replacing the timing belt and water pump on 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: a two thousand Volkswagen Beatle with one hundred and eight 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: two thousand miles on it. The belt was in rough shape, 73 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: probably ten or fifteen years old. The tension indicator was 74 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: a solid thirty degrees out of adjustment, which is a 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: lot all right when you start to look at you know, 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: tension adjustment. I mean there's enough with the non technical 77 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: word is wank. There's enough wank in that belt that 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: it was probably slapping against the cover as it came around. 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: Once I had the SYRP belt and engine mount off, 80 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: Billy continues, I turned the engine, the line up the 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: can but it's timing mark. And then I went to 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: double check the crank pulley against the mark on the 83 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: lower timing cover. Well low, and behold, no lower timing cover. 84 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: I no wonder the belt looked so rough. Yeah, that's 85 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: kind of bad when the parts are falling off the 86 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: car roll on its own right. So I ordered a 87 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: cover and marked the location of the crank pulley against 88 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: the edge of the oil pan. And here's where I 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: went wrong. After taking off the pulley, I didn't mark 90 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: the crank sprocket against the block. Once I had the cover, 91 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: I went to put it all back together, and before 92 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 4: putting the belt down, I checked the crank pulley against 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: the new cover and they didn't match with the crank 94 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: pulley lined up on the mark I had made. It 95 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 4: was way off from the mark on the cover. Almost 96 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 4: certainly a full tooth had I marked the pulley wrong, 97 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: Billy esks. With no mark on the sprocket, I couldn't 98 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: be sure. Was the cover from a later engine that 99 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: had the timing marks in a different position. Terrifying prospects, 100 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: but possible, Billy, it really is. Was the belt just 101 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: so worn and loose that the marked position was way 102 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 4: off the expected mark? Sure? No way to be sure, 103 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: as you point out, had the previous mechanic, how could 104 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: the previous mechanic have done anything wrong that installed the 105 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: leak water pump and left the time and cover off 106 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 4: and stole the belt of tooth off? Could the engine 107 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: have been running okay? That way? Impossible? 108 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 6: Man? 109 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: Maybe not. You know, there are some motors that will run, 110 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: but they're just not. They won't damage anything, they just 111 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: don't run great and then panic said it, and I 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: couldn't know what I couldn't know what was right, So 113 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: I said to myself, wwrd, what would Ron? Do? You know? 114 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: It's funny, Billy, My family does that same thing to me. 115 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: Anytime they were in a situation, cars or not, they 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: go wwrd. He would say, calm down and fix the 117 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: car in front of you, which I would solve the problem. 118 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: You know what life's about, problem solving and troubleshooting. So 119 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: Billy says, I took a break. I guess that was 120 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: your cup of coffee moment, huh, Bill, and questioned the 121 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: idea that I couldn't know what was right and how 122 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: would I know what was wrong. In a few seconds, 123 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: I realized the answer, which was no doubt obvious to you, Ron. 124 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 4: I pulled the number one plug and worked the crank 125 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: back and forth a few degrees until I was one 126 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: hundred percent sure it was exactly a top dead center. 127 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: I looked at the timing mark in the crank mark 128 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: was bang on center, and I had my timing cars 129 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: back together and out the door. In the end, because 130 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: of the missiligned marks, was just a loose belt and 131 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 4: not quite a full tooth. It just looked like it. 132 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 4: Thanks for being here for all the weekend warriors, Billy 133 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: in Colorado. You know, you do anything long enough, there 134 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: are moments where as human beings, we get tired of it. Right, 135 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 4: we're just God again. I got to go to work again. 136 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: And then you know, there's those moments, there's those things 137 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: the universe sends you, and you get letters like this, 138 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: and you say, you know, to connect with somebody like 139 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 4: that eighteen hundred miles away that I've never met, probably 140 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 4: never will. And you know what, I got somebody to 141 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: sit there and look at the problem. And that's important 142 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 4: because every day is a mechanic. Every day is a 143 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: human being. We're all faced with problems, We're all faced 144 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: with things we have to do. And I've always said, 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: you know that when I talk to people and I 146 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 4: give them those ron pep talks that everybody likes to 147 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: get once in a while, and sometimes they don't like 148 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: to get them, but they get them any you know what, 149 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 4: You're always going to have an issue. There's always going 150 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: to be a problem in front of you. You've got 151 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 4: a problem solve, and sometimes you've got to have the 152 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: confidence in yourself because confidence wears well in you as 153 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: a human being. It really does. If you have the 154 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: confidence in yourself that you're right, then just go ahead. 155 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: Be sure you're right, and go ahead. I always say that, 156 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: because there are going to be moments where the tooth 157 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: looks like it's a sprocket, or where it's a tooth 158 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: off the sprocket, or the tooth that's thirty degrees out 159 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: or forty degrees out, or something's not right. You can 160 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: learn a lot by being an auto mechanic, you really can, 161 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: and not just about cars. You can learn a lot 162 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: about yourself. It's very life fulfilling, it really is. It 163 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: gives you moments of doubt, and it gives you the 164 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: ability to teach yourself how to overcome that doubt. Maybe 165 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: that's part of what's missing in society today. Not I 166 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: think it's so esoteric, but you know, we're faced with 167 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: what seems like daunting tasks when if you just bring 168 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: it back to nuts and bolts and basics, you win 169 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: out every time you do. You really do numerous times. 170 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: And you know, you try not to do this too 171 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: many times, and you're trying not to let it happen, 172 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: but it does numerous times. In the shop, any given day, 173 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: any given week, any given moment. You never know when 174 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: it's going to turn. And then you have to think 175 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: your way out of the problem and solve the problem. 176 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: You got to think your way out of the box. 177 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: So Billy, congrats, brother, you made it all right you 178 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: you you did the absolute right thing. Break it down 179 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: in nuts and bolts, break it down in simple terms. 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: How would your problem solve it? You know, it's it's 181 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: probably the hardest thing for me and I think a 182 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: lot of us in fixing cars is it gets emotional. 183 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: It's you know, this blankety blank piece of blankety blank, 184 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 4: and it'll drive you nuts. But you can't it can't 185 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 4: be emotional. It's it's got to be methodical. It's got 186 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 4: to be okay, how does this work? How am I 187 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: going to take it apart? How am I going to 188 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: solve it? And nobody has all the answer, not anymore, 189 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: not today. There's too much electronics in cars today. It's 190 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: daunting the amount of electronics that are in the cars today. 191 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: Where you're basically you get down to the end of 192 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: the float chart, you get down to the end of 193 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: the diagnostic routine, and it says change the part of 194 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: substitute with non good part. Yeah, good me, how that's 195 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: gonna work. Technology is taking over the business now to 196 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: a point where it's becoming impractical to fix some of 197 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: these things because you just can't. You've got to take 198 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: your best guess, but you've got to apply some means 199 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: of common sense and diagnostic approach to it real quick. 200 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: We had a two thousand and three Mercury Marauder this week, 201 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 4: well not this week, for the past four weeks. It 202 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: needed a fuel pump. We were trying to find a 203 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: specific fuel pump. We wanted to put a Ford Oe 204 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: fuel pump in this car. Four doesn't make it anymore. 205 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: It's obsolete, and because of what this car is, we 206 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 4: wanted a Ford pump. We only found one task of 207 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: Ford up in Rhode Island. Of course, the CDK Global 208 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: software hacks slowed it down about two and a half 209 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: three weeks. They knew where it was, but they didn't 210 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: know where it was. Kind of a thing. But as 211 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 4: much as that solved the problem, we got the fuel 212 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 4: pump and the cars on its way. I wanted to 213 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: get a fuel pump driver module, which is the electronic 214 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 4: module that it's the computer that controls the fuel pump 215 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: because this was early generation Ford where they pulse with 216 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: modulated the fuel pump on and off. There was no 217 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: return line in this fuel system. Nobody makes this fuel 218 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: pump driver module. Nobody. All that's out there on eBay 219 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: is used stuff. There is no new left in the country. 220 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: And you start looking around and you're saying, you know, 221 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 4: they're they're pushing cars to the scrap heap, which is 222 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: a crime because of all the resources it took to 223 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 4: make all these things. You know, what would Ron do. 224 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 4: He'd sit down and have a cup of coffee, cup 225 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: of tea, coffee. Coffee gets me hyper and solve the 226 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: problem because things like no parts, things like oh god, 227 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: I took it apart and it's not right. It doesn't 228 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: look right from where it's supposed to be. It's all 229 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 4: part of the process. And for you that don't work 230 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: on cars, that's what's going on behind the scenes that 231 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: you don't see that your mechanic he or she is 232 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: going through on a daily basis. Anyway, let's uh, let's 233 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: pull over to take a pause, because when we come back, 234 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna open up the phone lines on ronin Anie 235 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 4: in the car doctor here at eight five five five 236 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: six oh nine nine zero zero. We'll return right after this. 237 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere for the best in car advice. 238 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: Give Ron a call eight five five five six zero 239 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. 240 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: And you know, to finish up on that conversation from before. 241 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: Maybe we should get T shirts made. We could have 242 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: a national campaign, right Ronananie and the Car Doctor on 243 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: the back and WWRD across the front. But then again 244 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 4: it might be maybe that's a little too religious overtone. 245 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 4: I don't know if we could do that. We want 246 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: to please help us man. Did you see it, Tom 247 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 4: w w r D. I think black shirts? See it 248 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: with darts? So you know black letters, great, great black 249 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 4: black black shirts, gray letters right, just w w r D. 250 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: You never know, So listen, I was wrong once. Let's 251 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 4: get over and talk to Bob in Florida. To Chevy 252 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: Astra Van Bob. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How 253 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: can I help? 254 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 6: Yes, I left the Ohio and I've come to Florida. Now, 255 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 6: I lakely. Now, I've always kept my oil change over 256 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 6: and all, always had cleat oil, even when I drained it. 257 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 6: I got down here and uh, I was going change 258 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 6: by bell cover gaskets, and I took the vowl covered 259 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 6: all and it'd be like taking a spoon and real 260 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 6: stan uh icing on a cake. Now across that cake 261 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 6: and take the icing thin. This motor has this black 262 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 6: stuff all over cake, like that small crust of icing. 263 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 6: Did somebody put something in my oil? I did pull 264 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 6: the mountain said, I was running seventy and eighty min 265 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 6: dollar at the bottom of the big heels and I 266 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 6: was pulling trailer. I wasn't pulled nine hundred pound And anyway, 267 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 6: would that cause that to be caked up like that? 268 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 5: Or no? 269 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 4: Something it shouldn't have. Have you owned this from day one, Bob, 270 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: as a twenty two year old vehicle? Have you owned 271 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: this from day one? 272 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 6: Nobody? It was practically he knew when I bought it 273 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 6: and had like a thousand on it. 274 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: All right, you know, is this the first time you've 275 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 4: pulled the valve cover, the first time that you've seen 276 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: the inside of the engine. 277 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 6: No, sure, I've done it before, years ago? 278 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: How many? How many years ago? I'm just curious, you 279 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: know what, I'm trying to get a frame of reference here. 280 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: Is something changed? It sounds like you're building up sludge 281 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: or varnish inside the engine. So it's either your oil 282 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 4: change intervals, the quality of the oil being used, or 283 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: is there a pending problem fuel delivery wise that's causing 284 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: the oil to break down sooner. Those are the three 285 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: thoughts on my mind. 286 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 6: So you don't take the mountains, pull down mountains and 287 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 6: coming down here would calls to take out? No, I'm 288 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 6: talking dirty. 289 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, not like that, not unless it's working super hard. 290 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: Is it any any dashboard warning lights on, check engine 291 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: light on, anything like that? No, sir, okay, is the 292 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: old oil still in the engine? Is the old oil 293 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: still in the engine? 294 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 6: Oh? No, No, I took it out. 295 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 4: I would I would have loved to have taken I 296 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 4: would have loved to have taken a cross section of 297 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: that and sent it out for a sample analysis to 298 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: tell you why it looks like that. So, yeah, you 299 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: may want work. When are you going back to Ohio 300 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: or are you down in Florida to stay? 301 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 6: I'm in Florida for now. 302 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: Okay. You know what I was going to suggest was 303 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: you may want to get down to your local AutoZone 304 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: and see what sort of crank case cleaners they have 305 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: something an oil additive that will help you know, wash 306 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: out the oil, break down some of that varnish and 307 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: crud and whatever's inside there, and clean it out and 308 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: then do another oil change. Oh I don't know, put 309 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: five hundred miles on it. Follow the directions on the 310 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: can whatever it is that you purchase from them, but 311 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: you may want to change the oil again sooner and 312 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: see how cleaner not clean, it looks after that. The 313 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: other thing I would want to do, just for giggles, 314 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 4: if you've got a mechanic down there, I would I 315 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: just want to know that fuel trims are in balance, 316 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: and look at them on a scale, look at them 317 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: on a scan tool. Question. 318 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I see what you said. 319 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: Right, you know that's okay, you know, you know it's 320 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: it's it's it's always about heart rate and blood pressure. Right. 321 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: You go to the doctor anytime and you say I 322 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: was dizzy, I was this, I was that. What's the first? 323 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: They always take heart rate and blood pressure? Brother, fuel 324 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: trim is one of the most underrated, overlooked values in 325 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: an engine that will tell you so much about what's 326 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: going on. You know, just to look at it that 327 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: in an oil analysis and then just be sure. I'm 328 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: sure it is but I just want to mention it 329 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: be sure that the crank case ventilation systems working properly. 330 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: If the engine is sluedged up as the PCV restricted 331 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: in any way, is the engine having a hard time 332 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: breathing creating internal issues? All right? You know that's also 333 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: something to consider. High mileage on this bob, not that 334 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: it matters. A well maintained engineal run you know a 335 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: long time. 336 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: I think thousand. 337 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not. It's not the end of the earth. 338 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: Any signs of any signs of coolant loss, no, okay, 339 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: you know, coolant would change it a different color. But 340 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: I just want to point out that that engine does 341 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 4: have some issues with the intake manifold gasket, allowing coolant 342 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 4: cross contamination into the engine oil, but it won't make 343 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: it black like that, all right, all right? You know, 344 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: black like that usually is a sign of a rich 345 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 4: running engine or a gasoline contaminated oil as a byproduct. 346 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: So that's why I'm thinking more towards fuel, you know, 347 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 4: to look at to look at those things that I suggested. 348 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: And you come back and say, hey, Ron, it's none 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: of that. Well we know what it's not. And then 350 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: we do a little crank case clean up, like I suggested, 351 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 4: with whatever AutoZone has, and I would trust their opinion 352 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 4: and change that oil again and then look at it 353 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: again in five hundred miles what does it look like? 354 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: And then you can make it to two termination on 355 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: next steps. Good luck to you, Bob. If you need more, 356 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: I'm here. I appreciate the call. Have fun down in 357 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 4: sunny Florida. I'm ronning Nanny and the car Doctor. I'll 358 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: return right after this. Don't go away. 359 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 6: Who's gone and got. 360 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: Who's going to thank you? 361 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: Welcome back, running Nanny the car Doctor. And you know 362 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: what's fun about older cars? You know now that I've 363 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: convinced you that you can't keep your older car because 364 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: there's no parts, let me tell you why they're fun 365 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 4: and great to have. All right, We just added a 366 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: two thousand and two Thunderbird of four Thunderbird to the 367 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: family fleet. Had to make some repairs, took forever to 368 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 4: find parts. Really, really a tough gig, and you know, 369 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 4: kind of tuning around in that as a My god, 370 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: what a basic car. You know. It's got a radio 371 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 4: that's only a radio. It's not an entertainment system. It's 372 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 4: not a television set. It doesn't launch missiles, it doesn't 373 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: have a backup camera built into it. It doesn't warn 374 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 4: you when anybody's near you. It's a radio and it's 375 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 4: got these funny little buttons. You push it on, it 376 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 4: turns it on. You push it again, it turns it off. 377 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: It has these little sticky buttons called pre sense. You 378 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: got ding ding ding thing. Think. I think the most 379 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: high tech option on this car is you can lock 380 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: the trunk with a switch. You put the key in 381 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: and you turn it and the button won't go down. 382 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: That's high tech on a two thousand and two fourth Underbird. 383 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: It's really kind of hilarious. You're just not used to 384 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 4: any of this. It's new cars have spoiled us, I 385 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: will tell you that. And sometimes it's just fun to 386 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 4: get into something like that and just go for a 387 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: ride because it's very, very mechanical. So that's whe thing 388 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: I will always enjoy about older vehicles. Let's go to 389 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: Tom in Florida with some general battery questions. Tom, Welcome 390 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, sir, 391 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 4: what's going on? 392 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: Before I start? I think your website might be under 393 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: that meltdown man because it's not working the live. 394 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: The stream. Okay, all right, good to know. We'll take 395 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 4: a look at that. Not a problem. 396 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: But last year I bought a battery for my daughter's Audi. 397 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: It was yeah, it was just about a year ago, 398 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: and it died last week. And we're looking at the battery. 399 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: It was dated two years when we bought it. It 400 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: was dated two years ago. 401 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: So are you saying the battery is three years older? 402 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: Was it was a year old when you bought it? 403 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: Yep, it was two years old when we bought it. 404 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: Now it's three and it's. 405 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: Good, okay. And what's the warranty on it? 406 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: They actually covered at one hundred percent? 407 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: Okay. 408 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: They gave us a new battery and chucked the date. 409 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: It was fine. My question is, and maybe to one 410 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: other people, can they sell it you know forever? 411 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 4: You know, it's a great it's a great question. Uh, Tom, 412 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 4: it really is, and it's it is a concern. Will 413 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: I will answer it like this if I can, with 414 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: a little story. So you know, we stock we stock 415 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 4: batteries at the shop and you know, just we just 416 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: stuck I think ten or twelve of the common popular 417 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 4: numbers and some of the not so common popular numbers, 418 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: and I count on the battery truck to come around 419 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 4: every couple of weeks and he'll, you know, he'll look 420 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 4: at the date code on the battery and say, yeah, 421 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: this one's got to go, this one's got to go, 422 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 4: and they rotate your stock around. You know, it took 423 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: me a while, but after so many years in the business, 424 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: I finally asked the question one day. I said, so, 425 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: when you take these batteries out of here, if the 426 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: battery is sitting longer than one hundred and twenty days, 427 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: they'll pull it from my inventory, and you know, where 428 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: does it go? You know, I kind of wanted to 429 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 4: know that question. I'm just curious by nature. And to 430 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 4: your point, they'll take that battery and depending upon the 431 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 4: part number, they will either put it at a location 432 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: that has you know, high recorded instances of using a 433 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: twenty six R or a thirty four G or something 434 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: like that, or they'll sell it off to other vendors. 435 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 4: And I said, what do you mean other vendors, And 436 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 4: the battery guy explained to me, and I've seen this 437 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: a couple of times, so I believe it to be true. 438 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 4: They will sell it off to bidders. Road service companies, 439 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: you know, the towing companies of the world, to say 440 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: it cleanly, that will buy that battery, recondition it. By reconditioning, 441 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 4: I mean, they will put it through a recharging process 442 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 4: where they'll desulfate the battery, make sure it's up the charge, 443 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 4: give it some load testing, make sure it passes, and 444 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: then put their own label on it, their private brand label. 445 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 4: So Tom's battery company, right, and they'll sell that as 446 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: a new battery. Why because it's never been used. But 447 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 4: it's all wow, all right, and I see this a lot. 448 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: And as convenient as roadside battery installation is, and and 449 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 4: it isn't anymore because battery installation is getting to be 450 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: a chore onto itself. You know, if somebody wants to 451 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 4: if somebody wants to put a battery in their late 452 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: model Ford Escape going up to about model year twenty eighteen, 453 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: I'd pay to see that because it's it's a chore 454 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 4: doing a battery. Half the car's got to come apart 455 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: on that driver's side, so yeah, you know, yeah, it's 456 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: it's it's an issue. You know, if you're looking for 457 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: battery information too, Tom, just to give it a real 458 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: quick shout out go out to auto batteries dot com. 459 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 4: Excellent resource how batteries work. Things to be concerned with, 460 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 4: how to find a good battery, that kind of thing. 461 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: But auto batteries dot com can probably help you. And 462 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 4: and you know, it's sort of like the online resource 463 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 4: we use in the shop all the time. But it's 464 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: not unusual, you know, is the car roll right now? 465 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I put the new battery and works fine now. 466 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's you know, and the funny thing is, 467 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: and I'm not sure why, but about five years ago 468 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: the industry changed. They used to pro rate batteries, you know, 469 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 4: where you would use it so many months and get 470 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: back so many dollars against it and such. They don't 471 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: do that anymore now. It's most batteries today have a 472 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 4: three at max. I've seen a four year warranty, maybe 473 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: maybe three and a half and then after that you're done. 474 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah there's no warning or anything. 475 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: There's no warning or anything. I you know, It's it's funny. 476 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: I still see batteries as having a four to five 477 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: year life cycle. You know, the online people are going 478 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: to generate so much mail over this comment, but you know, 479 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: because everybody's gonna write me and tell her I got 480 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: nine years out of my battery. Good lucky you. The 481 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: industry says, you know, listen, you know you're the guy 482 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: stuck on the side of the road or in the 483 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: parking lot at two o'clock in the morning when it 484 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: won't start. You know, the industry says four to five 485 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 4: years and a GM batteries. Batteries are a funny duck, right, 486 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: They're a completely different type of battery in a sense. 487 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 4: I've seen certain models gobble up batteries every three and 488 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: a half years, and I've seen certain models go six years. 489 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: But beyond six years, I'm putting a battery in it. 490 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 4: And if I'm changing, if I'm changing the battery in 491 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 4: a vehicle and it has a separate start stop battery, 492 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: I'm doing that as well, because that battery is generally 493 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 4: the same material and obviously it's the same age. So 494 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: if one went the other win. So it's Batteries are 495 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: a very complicated conversation to have these days. They really are. 496 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, And on a newer car, do you have to 497 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: get stot stopped? 498 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: Now? 499 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: On a gas engine, you don't have a choice. 500 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 4: It'll it'll depend on what the manufacturers trying to achieve 501 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: from emission's values. The reason there start stop let me 502 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 4: answer it this way. The reason there start stop is 503 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: manufacturers are trying to hit a certain fuel economy because 504 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: how many cars they sell it get forty miles to 505 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: the gallon versus how many cars they sell they get 506 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: twenty miles to the gallon. They get emissions credits and 507 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 4: different compensation from the government because they're trying to clean 508 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: up the environment. And you know that's that's really where 509 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 4: all that start stop technology came from. They're worried about 510 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: emissions and gasoline. You know, there are ways to get 511 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 4: around start stop. There are some vehicles that come with 512 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: a button that you can turn it off there. You know, 513 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 4: if the vehicle has a fault code in it, the 514 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: start stop will not work. In most experiences that I've had, 515 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 4: if I get to a traffic light and I want 516 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: to see, if start stop doesn't work, pop it into neutral. 517 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 4: It's got to remember to hold your foot on the brake 518 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: so the car doesn't roll. But you know, sometimes popping 519 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: it in neutral will take it away. I personally have 520 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 4: an issue with start stop real quick because I just 521 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 4: worry that on an older vehicle, the abuse I'm putting 522 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: on the starter, the how how good is that battery? 523 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to find out, you know, late at 524 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 4: night in a bad part of town, right that my 525 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 4: stop start battery doesn't work, you know. To me, I'd 526 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 4: like to know once the car started, I'm coming home 527 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: late at night, et cetera. I'm going to get there. Yeah, so, 528 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: but shame on me. I try to think logically. 529 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: And you know, I did an experiment ron last year. 530 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: I just bought it for a new car. I left 531 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: it on, I didn't touch anything for six months. It 532 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: said I saved a total of zero point nine seven 533 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: gallon right of gas. 534 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: Well, listen, I can show you that the government's crazy, 535 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 4: all right, you know it's it's listen. Move to New Jersey. 536 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 4: Moved to New Jersey and go get a vehicle title 537 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 4: in North Jersey. I had to travel an hour and 538 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 4: five minutes a week ago to go get a vehicle title. 539 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 4: But the agency that does registration is six minutes from 540 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: the house. So yeah, you know, but we're trying to 541 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 4: clean up the environment and save gasoline. I want to 542 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: know who makes up these things? Who thinks of this? 543 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 4: Somebody that rides a bicycle. I bet so. 544 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking for the government. The post office would be 545 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: out of business. 546 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: Right exactly right, yeah, yeah, it's crazy all right, sir, 547 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: I gotta run. Thanks for the info about the website. 548 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 4: Time you have a great time. Get out to Oto 549 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 4: Batteries dot com and that'll that'll help you in the 550 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: future and you'll be well. And thanks for being part 551 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: of the Car Doctor family. I'm Ronning Any in the 552 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: Car Doctor eight five five five six nine nine zero zero. 553 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 4: I'll return right after this. Welcome back, ronningn Any in 554 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: the Car Doctor here to answer your questions at eight 555 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 4: five five five six nine nine zero zero. Let's go 556 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: over to Travis up in Canada and see what's going 557 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: on here. Travis. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How 558 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: can I help? Hi? 559 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: Ron Thanks for having me. 560 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: How you doing? 561 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: You're welcome, sir. 562 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: Good. 563 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: What's going on? 564 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: I got a two thousand and three Mitsubishi Eclipse. It's 565 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: got a one hundred and thirty one thousand miles on it, 566 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: and it's got the two point four leader motor in there, yep. 567 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: And I've been fighting a P zero one seven to 568 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: one okay for oh, I don't know, about eight or 569 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: nine months, right, and it's been off the road for 570 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: a while, just as I'm trying to diagnose and fix 571 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: a darn thing. And yeah, I've kind of gone through 572 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: the service manual and I'm kind of stuck. I don't 573 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: know where else to go. I've checked for you know, 574 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: vacuum leaks is exhaust leaks, and I've fixed a few 575 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: of those, and it's still throwing the code. The vacuum 576 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: leaks I fixed have brought the short term fuel trim 577 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: down at idle, which at first I thought that was, oh, hey, 578 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: maybe that was the problem. But my long term fuel 579 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: trims driving and at idle and underload are stuck at 580 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: twelve point five all the time. 581 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 4: Okay, so it's it's it's always got high fuel trims. 582 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: Are the fuel trims high at idle or even going 583 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: down the road. 584 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: Both there. The long term is just pegged out at 585 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: twelve positive twelve point five idol. They were low twenties 586 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: consistently before I fix the vacuum leaks stilt, and then 587 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: now they seem to be long term stuck at tell 588 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: point five. And short term is anywhere from plus i'd 589 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 3: say plus seven to plus ten okay all the time. 590 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: Okay, So have you tried making this Richard? Do you 591 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: have any propane? 592 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: I have, yeah, And immediately when I throw that in 593 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: the intake, it's the trims come down. 594 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 4: Okay, good, So that shows that DO two's are working right, Yeah, 595 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: it's it's able to respond. So, sitting there at IDOL 596 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: warmed up engine, have you looked at mass airflow grams 597 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 4: per second? 598 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sitting at about two point eight. 599 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: That's about right. That's about right. And then as you 600 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: and then as you accelerate down the road it increases. 601 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. 602 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 4: Okay, And have you poked around with propane. 603 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 3: For like looking for leaks? 604 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: He means, yeah, just. 605 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 4: Looking for a vacuum leak. 606 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: I've smoke tested. I bought a smoke machine off Amazon 607 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: and that's been great. That helped me find my other leaks. 608 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 3: So now when I go in through the break booster 609 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: or another line, the only minor leak that I have 610 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: is it's almost like it has a mechanical throttle body 611 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: with a throttle cable right, and it's coming out there's 612 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 3: a bit of smoke coming out where the spring is 613 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: for on the throttle body. I don't know if it's 614 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: the throttle body shaft seal. Maybe okay, but I don't 615 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: know if that's normal as the smoke machine builds up pressure. 616 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 3: But that's the only spot I got smoke coming out 617 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: in the intakes. 618 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: Of Well and Smoke's a great way to go and 619 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: good initiative, right, I like I like your thinking. So 620 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 4: a smoke machine generates about a half a psi in 621 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: most cases depends on what yours is. But a smoke 622 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 4: machine test is only half the equation. All right, I'd 623 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: still like it. I'd still like to do it with propane. 624 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 4: So what sort of propane setup do you have? 625 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: Oh, it's just a generic camping like Yeah, like a torch. 626 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, tell you what Sit tight, Trevor. Let me 627 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: let me pull over and take the pulse when we 628 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: come back. We'll finish up. I'm running ny in the 629 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: car doctor. We'll be back right after this. Hey, we're back. 630 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 4: We're on any in the car doctor A day five five, five, six, 631 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: nine nine zero zero the card Doctor's twenty four to 632 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 4: seven hotline. Travis, you're there. 633 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: I am sorry, Okay. 634 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: I want you to take your propane bottle, all right, 635 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: and you you've probably got like the little crank on 636 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 4: black knob that turns on and off, like if you're 637 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: going to light it to do plumbing work or light 638 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: up a camping later and that kind of thing, right, Okay, 639 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 4: So somehow you've got to neck that on. You've got 640 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: to attach a black rubber hose or some sort of 641 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 4: rubber hose to that. And then on the other end 642 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 4: of that rubber hose, I want you to get a 643 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: small piece of steel brake line three sixteenths, all right, 644 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: and I want you to peen one end of that 645 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: brake line down so it's just a point, all right, 646 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: so crush it flat. Typically what I do is I'll 647 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: put it in a vice and I will I will 648 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: peen it shut except for one little corner. I'm trying 649 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: to make a pinpoint opening in the end of the 650 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 4: brake line, all right now when I open up the propane, 651 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: and I'm going to open it up slow, realizing that 652 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: if something backfires, I've got a hand grenade in my hand, right, okay, 653 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 4: the dangers of voter repair, brother, all right, And I'm 654 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 4: going to use that pinpoint like a wand and I'm 655 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: going to direct it at specific things, and I can 656 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 4: control the flow with the knob. I don't have to 657 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 4: turn on a full just a little bit of a flow, 658 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: right if you if you were to look at the 659 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 4: two censor by scan tool or voltmeter or whatever way 660 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 4: you want to do it, can we agree that if 661 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: you were able to get propaane directly in that throttle 662 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 4: shift and it made a difference on how the O 663 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: two rid that it's making a difference on fuel trim. 664 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: Right should yeah? 665 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah, fuel trim's fuel trim. I mean it 666 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: doesn't know where the fuel of the era is coming from. 667 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 4: So you know I want you to do that. That's 668 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 4: the whole purpose of propane. Propain is not just in 669 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: that big globular If we were going to do massive 670 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 4: amounts of propaine like that, we might as well use 671 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: carb clean from the seventies. All right. The idea is, 672 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: you know, pro pain can make a very pinpoint accurate 673 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 4: diagnostic tool. All right. I want you to get a 674 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 4: yellow notepad and just eliminate things. I want you to 675 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 4: check fuel pressure if you can. 676 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 3: If you've done that, ye good. 677 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: You wrote down your results. 678 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah it was one psi at curve idyl over than 679 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: spec Oh, so I figured that you're good enough. 680 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: Take a look at the maps. Take a look at 681 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,479 Speaker 4: the map sensor keon, engine off. You should see four 682 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 4: to four and a half vaults started up. You should 683 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: see a vault fault and a half something like that, 684 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 4: but just be specific. Propain the throttle body. Just make 685 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 4: sure there are no vacuum leaks elsewhere. Leave the break 686 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: booster disconnected, all right, And then last look around in 687 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 4: the area of the two censor. Any exhaust leaks. Any 688 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 4: exhaust leaks will skew that O two and we'll contribute 689 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: to a line code. Do those things. Call me back 690 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 4: till the next time I'm running Andy and the car Doctor. 691 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 4: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 692 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: See you