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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharp or Square, part of the Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 1: This is the betting show that makes the squares sharper

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Speaker 1: and makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just insane timing. I'm sure you have the same thing,

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Speaker 3: which is a lot going on. And you know, now

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Speaker 3: we have a new show, we have week one, Brother,

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Speaker 3: and I'm really excited just to dive back in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look for those for those who are new to

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Speaker 1: the show, and I don't know how many people there

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Speaker 1: are that are new to the show. I've been a

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Speaker 1: sports journalist and media exec for twenty five years. I've

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Speaker 1: been covering the gambling space for that long, starting with

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Speaker 1: my Simon as you know, best selling book The Odds.

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Speaker 1: I also helped launch the Action Network, where Simon and

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Speaker 1: I used to be until recently. Simon is professional better

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Speaker 1: with more than a decade experience betting the NFL. Together,

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Speaker 1: we take entirely different approaches to find consensus over the

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Speaker 1: course of the week of our shows for five games

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Speaker 1: that we want to put into our pick Them contest.

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Speaker 1: You can come along for the ride as we debate,

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Speaker 1: we cajole, we support, we ridicule. Tuesday shows air at

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Speaker 1: one thirty pm Eastern on YouTube, covers the entire slate

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Speaker 1: of games Thursday show also at one thirty, discusses a

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Speaker 1: narrower set of games as we see injuries get reported,

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Speaker 1: as lines start to move, as we get more intel

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Speaker 1: from the wise guy in professional betting community, we're zeroing

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Speaker 1: in on those. We will do a short show Sunday

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Speaker 1: mornings at eleven am for those who have been with

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Speaker 1: us for years. You know that, like Simon and I

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Speaker 1: will talk about the pigs that we ultimately decide to

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Speaker 1: settle on our five favorite picks for our contests on

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning, going to broad broadcast that conversation at eleven am,

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Speaker 1: so you're going to hear as we go back and

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Speaker 1: forth and try to keep ourselves from making bad, impulsive decisions.

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Speaker 1: And then we will do our wrap up show look

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Speaker 1: your favorite audio platforms. As you said, our lives have

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Speaker 1: been nutty the past few days. As we wrapped up

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Speaker 1: our time with Action, I moved my kid into his

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Speaker 1: trip to Costa Rica for the bookground reporting. But here

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Speaker 1: we are. We've made it. We've been waiting for the

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Speaker 1: season to start long enough. Let's get into it, my brother,

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Speaker 1: here we go Thursday night. Dude, crazy crazy, Dallas plus

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Speaker 1: eight and a half at Philly. You're wearing the green today. Look,

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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about this game back in the spring.

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Speaker 1: We loved the Cowboys. I bet the Cowboys at plus seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's pretty amazing that Parsons is worth two

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Speaker 1: It's nuts. When I was working on the script yesterday,

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Speaker 3: That's the first thing jumped out to me is you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why is this moving so fast?

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Speaker 3: And the reveal was the public came and the professionals

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. Like, we've been talking about the Eagles

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Speaker 1: would end aggressive aggressive move at eight and a half,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we don't back the Cowboys here,

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Speaker 1: Like this number has kind of gotten out of control.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a rare but tore right, it's dak as

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Speaker 3: But the Eagles have their own questions chat and that's

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Speaker 3: that secondary. So you know, for me, it's a lot

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Speaker 3: I think that this is actually a nice spot for him,

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Speaker 3: and they're kind of a team that everyone's turning into

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Speaker 3: a joke and they're piling on and lucky for us

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Speaker 3: know if we'll be in our contest, but I do

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Speaker 3: like this one. Just betting it at eight and a half,

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Speaker 3: it's a good number.

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Speaker 1: Simon new show, same contrarian views. I love it. The

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Speaker 1: uglier the better. There's gonna be a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: that today. Kansas City Chiefs, Los Angeles Chargers. This is

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Speaker 1: the Brazil game. Chargers are three point dogs, pretty much

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Speaker 1: painted three. It was Chiefs two and a half. It's

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Speaker 1: moved up a tick. I don't really have an opinion

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Speaker 1: on this one. To be honest, like mahonees it less

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Speaker 1: and how much they've improved their offensive line. I like

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Speaker 1: justin Herbert more than you do. As a contest play.

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Speaker 1: This is a pass. As a bet, this is kind

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Speaker 2: I do. I'm shocked you don't like this one.

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Speaker 3: To me, it's the Reportuini right, it's Herbert as a

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Speaker 3: dog that might grow higher than three. At three and

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Speaker 3: a half, you have to audit anyone listening to this.

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Speaker 3: If you have at that, you can get three and

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Speaker 3: a half. I feel like this might have to be

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Speaker 3: and it's really strictly based off of what we've seen

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Speaker 3: with Herbert. Herbert does not win these games. I agree

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Speaker 3: would not take them. But we see a time time again.

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Speaker 3: Anytime he's a three and a half point dog against

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Speaker 2: He covers. He's a cover machine in this exact spot.

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Speaker 3: So you know, just going through his career record, so

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Speaker 3: three and a half when dog or more, he's eleven

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Speaker 3: out to me is when every time he is three

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Speaker 2: So this is one where I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Like because it's in Brazil, I was a little a

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Speaker 3: little hesitant with it, but I think that actually benefits

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Speaker 3: that it's an even playing field, right, there is no

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Speaker 3: home field advantage for the charters at home, let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: So to me, it's beneficial for them to be on

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Speaker 3: a neutral field like this is. And if you get

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Speaker 3: to that magic number, that key number, three and a

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Speaker 3: half with Herbert, don't think about it, just take it.

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Speaker 2: He'll lose, he will lose, he will get outplayed.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure in the fourth quarter, like we know the deal, right, cheack,

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Speaker 3: he'll have a ten point lead and he'll somehow they'll

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Speaker 3: lose by thirteen in the fourth quarter, right, And that's

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Speaker 3: just that's Herbert's problem.

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Speaker 2: So you know, to me, I wouldn't touch the money

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Speaker 2: like maybe we will. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's a little early in the week, but just strictly betting.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm waiting for the three and a half

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Speaker 3: to fop. A couple of books have touched three and

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Speaker 3: a half. I've hit it, they've gone back down to three.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping we get back there by game time because

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Speaker 3: again it's a standalone game.

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Speaker 2: The public will be bet in this chief side.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's not at three and a half

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Speaker 1: right now. I love the logic. Get it to three

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Speaker 1: and a half and then take the three and a

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Speaker 1: half as it stands right now. It might get there,

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Speaker 1: but that's still a big move, and it you know,

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Speaker 1: for most of us mortals who aren't up in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night watching the lines move from three

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Speaker 3: And this one also feels too easy, right, I had

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Speaker 3: This is another game where it's like I thought public

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Speaker 3: The whole field discussion, Right, people are just basing their

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Speaker 2: It's down at two and a half? Are we going

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Speaker 3: Like to me, if this stayed three, it went to

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Speaker 1: I am trying to teach myself this season. You know,

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Speaker 1: I do well. When I don't do well, what I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again two and a half. I still think it's

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Speaker 3: that's a fine number. Like I make this game Leary

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Speaker 2: But you just nailed it.

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Speaker 3: It's we're trying to make money long term here and

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Speaker 1: You know I'm doing there. Simon I'm taking a professional

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five NFL season. I say all that because

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I might just toss it to the

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Speaker 1: half hosting the Cincinnati Bengals. Oh my god, Simon, I

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Speaker 2: Simon says, give me the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on it, dude. We got a whole

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Speaker 1: new segment on the show Chad Loves Love. Everyone knows

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Speaker 1: I'm a romantic. You know, I've been married forever, beautiful wife,

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Speaker 1: their lives and spend all their time going to fucking darties.

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Speaker 1: But you know what a darty is, Simon, A party

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Speaker 1: to day party. That's what in college they called They

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Speaker 1: called day parties darties. So all I'm hearing about this

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Speaker 2: I'll give it to you if you want.

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Speaker 3: I got other ones I can fire on, but this

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Speaker 1: I may I might want it at some point, but

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Speaker 3: The reason I love this spot so much, that is

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Speaker 3: one of the divisional home underdogs are twenty three and

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Speaker 3: and two since twenty eighteen and eighteen and four since

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Evan Abrams.

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Speaker 3: I love that stat so much about the divisional home underdogs.

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Speaker 3: It's it's the money maker, right, It's the public overrating

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Speaker 3: We talk all the time divisional teams just play weird.

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Speaker 3: I know Joe Burrow actually has done pretty well against

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Speaker 2: This is a really bad spot, right.

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Speaker 3: This is a fully healthy Browns team that actually believes

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Speaker 3: they were one and nine, we'd be betting this different.

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Speaker 3: This is even in their minds they can make up

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Speaker 3: gonna be playing hard and this number should be three,

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Speaker 2: Public has bet this up to five, five and a half. Six.

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Speaker 2: We love that free value.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, this is obviously one of my favorite bets

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think that where you're getting the Joe

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The Browns defense, we know is dominant. The Bengals offensive

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Speaker 1: line was one of the worst offensive lines in football

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Speaker 1: Then you've got all the drama with Trey Hendrickson that

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Speaker 1: a generation. Give me the Browns plus five and a half.

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Speaker 1: I can't see how this is not a contest play

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Speaker 1: this is a Simon says. It may be Hchad loves

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Speaker 1: Simon to take. As as Simon says, old habits, die hard,

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Speaker 1: Go Browns plus five and a half. Arizona at New

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Speaker 1: Orleans plus six and a half. I don't really have

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Speaker 1: robin when we talk about it on Thursday. It's been

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Speaker 1: Rattler is the Saints starter. I just don't have enough

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Speaker 3: I agree with your point that this number just feels

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Speaker 2: So I'd rather just go the other way.

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Speaker 3: I'll take Kyler first half, and you know, I assume

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Speaker 2: Right. No one's betting the Saints. No, no one is

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Speaker 3: Taking a position, and everybody's probably thrown in their four

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Speaker 2: And this is to me two fishy. I don't know

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Speaker 3: I trusting Kyler at this big of a number, especially

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Speaker 2: It's way too big.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if we had I would say if

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Speaker 3: Saint thing we talked about. They're a veteran team, right,

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Speaker 3: They're just really bad at the quarterback position. So the

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Speaker 2: Books will get me there eventually.

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Speaker 3: If this reaches seven and seven and a half on

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Speaker 1: I am so bad at making bets on Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: In terms of my historical record, almost all of my

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Speaker 1: I do so much better than I do when we

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Speaker 1: Discipline and simon, that's what I do. New York Giants

436
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: at Washington Commanders, the Commanders are now six point favorites. Look,

437
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: we've talked about this all season in a previous iteration

438
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: of our show. We don't love the Commanders, like under

439
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: nine and a half wins was one of my favorite

440
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: season win total bets. We expect some natural regression, not

441
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: a knock on Jane Daniels at all. It's just the

442
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: natural order of things. The problem is, I think the

443
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: Giants are trash, and we went through their schedule. We

444
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: could not find five wins to get them over four

445
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Speaker 1: and a half wins. I know this is a big

446
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Speaker 1: divisional dog, but this is a to me, a little

447
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Speaker 1: bit of a different scenario because I do think the

448
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: Commanders are better overall than say the Bengals, and I

449
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: think that the Giants traveling makes this a little bit

450
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: sketchier to me. It has dropped from seven to six

451
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: and a half to six, so we know wise guys

452
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: have been coming in on the Giants. We've missed the

453
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Speaker 1: best of it.

454
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually love the Commanders here, and I talked

455
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Speaker 3: to those wise guys. I get their reasoning for it.

456
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: My pushback against them is that Commanders with Jane Daniels

457
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 3: is the perfect type of quarterback to neutralize a good

458
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: defensive line like they have, right.

459
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Speaker 2: And you know, saying which you want.

460
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Speaker 3: Last year in the NFC Championship game, they didn't lose

461
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 3: because of Daniels against that Eagles team, Right, that was

462
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: not on him. It felt like it was a lot

463
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Speaker 3: of the other stuff where k had guys are around

464
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Speaker 3: him fumbling the ball and his defense not be able

465
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Speaker 3: to get stops. You look here in this matchup, that's

466
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: the strength of this Giants team is that D line. Again,

467
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 3: he's a perfect guy to neutralize that. They're gonna be

468
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: able to get him outside the pocket and attack that

469
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Speaker 3: D a lot of different ways. So this numbers move

470
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Speaker 3: to five and a half Chad so like, I really

471
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Speaker 3: like it. But it's very interesting that that much respect

472
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 3: and professional money has come in this heavy on this

473
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: Giants team moved to this much. So to me, they're

474
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 3: kind of banking heavily here on Russell Wilson and him

475
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: being you know, much more consistent. And they're also looking

476
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Speaker 3: at the history of the Giants, you know, for the

477
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones there they owned this Washington team.

478
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Speaker 2: I just think that's totally off basis.

479
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 3: Those are totally two different teams, and this Washington team

480
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 3: has a totally different identity. So I know that last

481
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: year they did play them tough, and I remember we

482
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 3: were we had the Giants in that game. The Giants,

483
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: if they just had simply had a kicker, would have

484
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 3: probably won the game outright. So I get while they're

485
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Speaker 3: going back to that tape and thinking that the Giants

486
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Speaker 3: have the players to make me get this type of

487
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Speaker 3: stops and be able to keep them in this game

488
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Speaker 3: and keep this as a close one.

489
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Speaker 2: And I can't believe.

490
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Speaker 3: I don't love them as a divisional road dog here,

491
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: but I think she had nailed it.

492
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: Like this number moved too much. I think it could

493
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Speaker 2: literally land right on sticks.

494
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Speaker 3: And to me, if you're getting the five and a half,

495
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: which a lot of books have right now, that's the play.

496
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Speaker 2: That's the move for me on this Washington team.

497
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Speaker 1: All right. So I'm putting this on the board as

498
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Speaker 1: a revisit because I agree with you. At five and

499
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Speaker 1: a half, it starts to all of a sudden become

500
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: wait a second, what Like Russell Wilson hasn't been effective

501
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: in two years. This is not a team that has

502
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: proven it can execute against a home team and a

503
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: guy who's already a top ten quarterback.

504
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson two and six against the spread

505
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Speaker 2: and week one.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be time again to pass that night

507
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: at less than six. But I'm curious, like you know,

508
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: we'll do. We'll get some calls from wise guys on Thursday,

509
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: and so we'll we'll see what some of the thinking

510
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: is on that and if they can change our minds

511
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: on this game. Carolina Panthers at Jacksonville Jaguars. Dude, Jaguars

512
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 1: are three and a half point favorites right now. We

513
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: love the Panthers always, full stop. This is a Carolina

514
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: Panthers podcast. We loved their season win total of over

515
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: six and a half. We like their offensive line enough.

516
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: We loved how Bryce Young was a gamer the second

517
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: half of last year. He went seven and two against

518
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: the spread, four outright wins. He was just much much

519
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: better as he made decisions. He was extending plays, helping

520
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: the scramble rate jump from twenty five percent to forty

521
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: seven percent. And it wasn't just because of us offensive

522
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: line troubles. It was him moving in the pocket to

523
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: make plays and then using his accuracy on the run,

524
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: and that's why we liked him. What's interesting to me

525
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: is the Jags looked like trash during the preseason for

526
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: parts of it. This line has moved from just in

527
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours from three to three and

528
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: a half, so it's moved off a key number. Enough

529
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: money has come in the bookmakers had to move it

530
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: off three. What do you think is going on here?

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just like you were saying, it's the Liam Cohen hype, right,

532
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 3: this is all Jaguars love. It's all good right now, right,

533
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: everyone's paying the rosiest picture.

534
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: Look what you did with Baker. He'll come here. Save

535
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence.

536
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: Hey, Chad, you know Trevor Lawrence was eight and three

537
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: at one point and one of the best quarterbacks of

538
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: football before you got a slight injury. And now it's

539
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: been two years of just absolute hell for that Jaguars organization. Yes,

540
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: we do know, and I just think it's a lot

541
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: of love for this Jaguars team that, yes, to have talent,

542
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: but they have many, many weaknesses across the board on

543
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: this team, and lucky for them, I don't know if

544
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: the Panthers can to exploit those weaknesses. Right who on

545
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: that pass rush of the Panthers is really giving you

546
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: scare if you're a Jaguars offensive line, not really.

547
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: Much there at work with.

548
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: So you know, we'll bet to three and a half.

549
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: That to me is the plus three and a half.

550
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: That's where the value is on the Panthers. But I'm

551
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: not in love with this one. It feels like a bet.

552
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: I'm forcing in there just because it feels like a

553
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: little bit of an off number. And you know I

554
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 3: had this number right at three. So yes, the value

555
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: is on three and a half. But I assume I'll

556
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: skip pulling this on the contest and maybe we'll just

557
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: get that money line around Robin come Thursday.

558
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'm putting it on the list because maybe things

559
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: will change over the next forty eight hours. I want

560
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: to love the Panthers so much here, I feel like

561
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: it would be irresponsible to make the m a Chad

562
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Loves Love bet right now, because that would just be

563
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: torture for all of our listeners given our history with

564
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: the Panthers. However, Miami visiting the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts

565
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: are one and a half point favorites painted one and

566
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: a half across the board as my close friend Billy

567
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: Joel likes to say, for the longest time, Oh did

568
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: you see that documentary?

569
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: Now, I must have missed that.

570
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's an HBO Max five and a half

571
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: hours of Billy Joe, who is just straight crazier than

572
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: you would think. But this line has been at one

573
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: and a half the entire summer. We're going to completely

574
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: disagree on this one. I like Miami. You're gonna like Indy.

575
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: If tu A stays upright against a mediocre to bad

576
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: defense that doesn't have a great pass rush, that's just

577
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: a clear advantage to me. And I know like you

578
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: are so off of Miami, and I know you like

579
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: Indy even more now that we know Daniel Jones is starting.

580
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it.

581
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: Again, Chad. These are all season long thoughts.

582
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: Don't try to put me into a corner here, Okay,

583
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: I'm talking season longer. Yeah, so I get the Miami

584
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: love to me. I'll just tease him. I'll get this

585
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: up to seven and a half. That's where I'm coomfortable

586
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: because Miami is heavily heavy the public side. It's for

587
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: good reason, right, I think anyone unless you've been on

588
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: Mars Nos this Colts team has been trash in Week one.

589
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter if it was Andrew Luck or Philip Rivers,

590
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: it's always been bad. And I believe they're two and

591
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: fourteen straight up and against the spread in week one,

592
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: two and fourteen, TUA pretty good, pretty good Week one.

593
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: Don't know if you've seen his stats. He's actually two

594
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: and oh straight up and against the spread in week

595
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: one on the road in his career. I think he's

596
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: four to oh in his career and week one straight up,

597
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, two obviously, week one on the road in

598
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: the hostile environment, he's done really well.

599
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: I get Chad's love for it. I'll join them, but again.

600
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: In a teaser, I would not play the one and

601
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: a half just because it just feels way too risky.

602
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: It just both these teams, Like you just said, Daniel Jones,

603
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm getting, but I know this

604
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: can be better than Anthony Richardson in this exact spot.

605
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: I know I hate saying they're due, but my god,

606
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: are they du Chad to cover a week one spread

607
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: two and fourteen? I can't ran my head around the

608
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: last sixteen years. So yeah, Miami, I'm not letting you

609
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: put them in our contest. It's too public, but for

610
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: a teaser, I like it seven and a half.

611
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: Right until that last comment, I'm like, all right, I

612
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: feel like we got a chance here with Miami, and

613
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: I agree it's it's so public as with a nod

614
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: to our new show. It's pretty fun square and I

615
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: love it so much. If you hadn't have just said

616
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: all that stuff, I might have to marry this.

617
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: I could get there because then the biggest weakness of

618
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: this cold seams are secondary.

619
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Speaker 2: The biggest strength of Miami's.

620
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: Their passing attack, right with Tyreek and Water, who are

621
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: both healthy right now, So I get what your love

622
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: for it. I'm just man, why is this number not

623
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 3: moved at all? And it's just been taking money, taking money,

624
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: taking money for the last five months, So it's that's

625
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: what's scaring me, brother.

626
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: Right, Like, what's the logic here? Bookmakers know they're lopsided

627
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: on Miami, so why are they not trying to change

628
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: anything at this point? No one is biting all right,

629
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: all right, I still got to commit to somebody. I

630
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: got to fall in love. I got to marry someone

631
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I haven't yet other than the Browns, And you came

632
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: in undercut me classic Pitt at New York Jets, New

633
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: York Jets plus three. I know you want to bet

634
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: the Jets. I don't even have to hear you explain it.

635
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: And I feel like they've got looked. They've got Quinn

636
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: Williams dominanant defensive tackle, potentially dominant corner, and Sauce Gardner

637
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: if he can return to what he was in his

638
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: rookie year. It was a good defense before Robert Sala

639
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: got fired and the creatored and we loved what Aaron

640
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: Glenn did with the Lions when they were literally down

641
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: to guys off the street. We think he can motivate

642
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: this team, but we know the ceiling on Justin Fields,

643
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: and the Steelers know the ceiling on Justin Fields. So

644
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: to me, if I think about this as a matchup

645
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: and if there's a play like an advantage in the handicap,

646
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't really see it. Like I don't think Aaron

647
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers is the Aaron Rodgers of old. I think he

648
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: had a couple good years with Lafloor, Matt Lafloor because

649
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: he listened to Matt Lafloor, But he had a crappy year,

650
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: mediocre year last year on a garbage situation. Now he's

651
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: got a relatively conservative offensive coordinator. You say you don't

652
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: know what you're getting in Miami and Indy. I don't

653
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: really feel like I know what I'm getting in this

654
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: game and the key players and quarterback of Justin Fields

655
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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers.

656
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know me too well, Chad.

657
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: I love the Jets and it's I love that it's

658
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: season long though. Once again, I don't need to force

659
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: a week one, but I'm just gonna play the three.

660
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: You know me, it's it's Tomlin on the road as

661
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: a favorite. Is this not a spot we always fade

662
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: him in this exact spot, like this man hates to

663
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 3: have love, he hates to be loved in this exact spot.

664
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: So to me, it's a no brainer where you know,

665
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: I like to the Jets. Identity right now to the

666
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: general public is a little unknown where when you listen

667
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: to insiders you can get a really good read on

668
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: this team where we know what they're gonna be right.

669
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: They're gonna be an extremely run heavy team and I

670
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: think they will unleash Fields here in this type of

671
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: matchup where you're getting the read option and he'll be

672
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: carrying it pretty heavy against his former team. Again, this

673
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: is gonna mean a lot. Then this is a team

674
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: that had him in house and let him walk. You

675
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 3: know that's gonna that's gonna be on top of his mind.

676
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: And you know, Aaron Rodgers obviously a revenge game. It's

677
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: it's not a great matchup for him, right. This is

678
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: a defensive line that gets out for the quarterback and

679
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: it's going to be keep on moving him off his spot,

680
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: especially up the middle, which we've seen him struggle with.

681
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, just.

682
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: Really comes down to the number, Like if this was

683
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: one and a half, I really wanted to be on

684
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh never got down even close to It's been three

685
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 3: two and a half almost every book.

686
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: So at three, that's a Jets number. I'll take it.

687
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: But like Chad said, no need to force this one

688
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 3: another game where it's like I'm Bennett because it feels

689
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: like this is what I do, taking these ugly home

690
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: dogs in this exact spot where no one believes in them.

691
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 3: But it's also a team that we just don't know

692
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: much enough about this Jets team that my only rule

693
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: advantage here is that I think they're going to be

694
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 3: able to run the ball pretty well against this Pittsburgh

695
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 3: team the way they're going to be able to run block.

696
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, really excited for this Jets team this upcoming season.

697
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: But I will make Chad taket here, dude.

698
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: We got a couple of games coming up that I

699
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: actually am pretty sweet on and I'm excited to get

700
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: your opinion. It's not Tampa Bay Atlanta Atlanta's two and

701
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: a half. It's an interesting game. Like I mentioned the

702
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: Saints Cardinals game that that game had moved a full point,

703
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: So is this one not A ton of games have

704
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: moved that much. It's one of the few that has

705
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: moved sort of that much. To be honest, I'm not

706
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: sure I understand the move which has happened over the

707
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: excuse me, it's happened over the past week. I kind

708
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: of lean Falcons at this spot. In this number. You know,

709
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: we have Baker's the top ten QB, but a lot

710
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: of that is based on what he did last year,

711
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: and that was predicated on increased screen passes to help

712
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: him manage the pressure. His EPA expected points added on

713
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: screens was the second highest the past four seasons, behind

714
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: just Patrick Mahomes. Like it helped him decrease his sack rate.

715
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: New offensive coordinator. Again, we don't really know how they're

716
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: going to utilize Baker in a screen game. To me,

717
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: it's really about Penix. Can Pennix be protected? Can he

718
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: stay as the football experts like to stay, like to say,

719
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: on schedule, Because if he was on schedule, meaning clean

720
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: pocket throwing in rhythm, only Lamar Jackson was better in

721
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: those scenarios. And when he needs to run and that's

722
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: with the minimum of one hundred passes, when he needs

723
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: to scramble and he's sort of out of sync, he craters.

724
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: So we kind of need to know is Michael Pennock's

725
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: going to get protected to feel confident betting them as dogs.

726
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: Love the weapons though, love the weapons, don't love this

727
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: game yet.

728
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: No, this is I had to go some chalk somewhere, people,

729
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: This is where I'm going chalk. So I'll take books here.

730
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: And now that it's still under three, I think that's

731
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: a good number. But I'm going to read this line

732
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: again because this is why I'm so hesitant to really

733
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: hammer this one, and you know, jump on the table

734
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: for a week when Division home under dogs twenty three

735
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: and seven against the spread since twenty ten, so.

736
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: It is technically a spy. You should be taking Atlanta.

737
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: But I think they're getting too much respect here and

738
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: too much disrespect to a Bucks team that you know

739
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: they're highly talented. And last year against his exact Atlanta team,

740
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: they let a couple of games get away that they

741
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: shouldn't have, So I think there would be a.

742
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: Highly motivated Bucks team here.

743
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: And I like this spot and a key number under three,

744
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: So I get the Atlanta love. The trends point to

745
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: it as well. I just I can't He's lost key

746
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 3: guys to the offensive line, and Penis cannot be moved

747
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: off his spot. He struggles when he's moved off the spot,

748
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: so I just can't get there with Penicks.

749
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: I'm back in Slanta.

750
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: Team Simon, You've said it a couple of times. This

751
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: show you feel good about a team season long, but

752
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean you like them. This weekend, Tennessee

753
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: is at Denver. Denver is a seven and a half

754
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: point favorite, along with the Cowboys and in the Eagles.

755
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: This is the biggest number on the board, and this

756
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: until the past twenty four hours, it's the only number

757
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: on the board that it touched eight with the Broncos,

758
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: and then there was a little bit of buyback on

759
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: the eight by professionals and it went back down to

760
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: seven and a half. Look, Denver's defense is elite like.

761
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: Depending on the category you want to focus on, it

762
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: could be the best in the NFL. In this case,

763
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: I want to focus on pass rush, which it was

764
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: the best in the NFL. And they have the defending

765
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year and pascertain at defensive back.

766
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: We like the Titans season long, and we like what

767
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: we've seen from cam Ward. You know, Chase Daniel, the

768
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: former quarterback. I love his tiktoks and he has been

769
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: loving cam Ward. Don't laugh at me. I can like

770
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: TikTok and he has been loving cam Ward and how

771
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: he's been developing and what he's seen in the preseason.

772
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Number one overall quarterbacks past sixteen one in fifteen against

773
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: the spread in their first game. It's been twenty three

774
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: years since the number one overall pick at quarterback even

775
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: won his first start. That was David Carr with the Texans.

776
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, Simon I covered that game for

777
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: ESPN the magazine. I know we love cam Ward I'm

778
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: super high on their offensive line. We love Bill Callahan.

779
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 1: They signed the dude Kevin Seitzer from is that his name?

780
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: From the Lions. I feel like I want to be

781
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: on Denver here.

782
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: Chad, I can't believe you're saying that.

783
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: I cannot believe you liked them the spot where this

784
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: is you don't even have to be in a sports

785
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: but I know this is a terrible spot.

786
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: So what did what did you know bo Nicks do

787
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: that was so historical last year?

788
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: He never lost or didn't cover as his favorite last year,

789
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: I believe he was eight and oh or nine to oh,

790
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: something insane like that. On the flip side, we have

791
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: a Tennessee team that I went two and fifteen against

792
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: this part, I believe last season. So just off that alone,

793
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: you are getting what two three free points? Just off that,

794
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 3: off the public perception of that right there, which is

795
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: like a cash cow in Denver to all these betters

796
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: and Tennessee an easy faith for all them, where it's

797
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: it's a whole new world, like this is totally different.

798
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: This is not the same Tennessee team and it's not

799
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: the same Denver team. Like again, as much as we're

800
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: all painting a rosie pitcher of this Denver team, and hey,

801
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: they might win this division. This is a tall task

802
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: to ask them to cover this big of a number

803
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: at home in Week one, with all those expectations and pressure,

804
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: playing against a Tennessee team that they have no worries.

805
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: And Chad nailed it. The fear here is the rookie

806
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: quarterback on the road in their first start. So survivor pool, Yeah,

807
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: Denver lay up week one? Right, I think rookies since

808
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: the nineteen seventy merger eighteen twenty one straight up in

809
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: this exact spot on the road in their first start.

810
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned the last.

811
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 3: Rookie quarterback to win, you know, tons of respect, David Carr.

812
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: Kaylyn Williams did it last year, right, kayleb Williams won

813
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: as a rookie in his first start, which was a

814
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: really big deals. So number one pick it just doesn't happen, right,

815
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: The number one picks tend to lose.

816
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: We've seen historical data.

817
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: So once again it's another nice spot to take Denver

818
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: and survivor. But against the spread, it feels like a horrible,

819
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: horrible spot to back Denver. And as bad as these

820
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: rookie quarterbacks are, covering the spread on the road. They're

821
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: thirteen or fourteen against the spread in Week one on

822
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: the road, so you know this isn't that terrible spot

823
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: against spread. It's just a bad spot for him to

824
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 3: win outright. So people out there tease Denver. I think

825
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: that's a great one to throw in there. I just

826
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: cannot see them losing this game. All this stuff points

827
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: to Tennessee team losing this game but covering seven and

828
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: a half. There's eight and a half's out there. I

829
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen it. There's been eight and

830
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: a half's popping up in a couple different books, and

831
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: eights popping up all around.

832
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: So you know, to me, this is a.

833
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: Type of game where it's like the closer we get

834
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: and if our contest as this eight and a half,

835
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: how do we not play it? That's an insane number

836
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 3: when all the atstup points in this Tennessee team being

837
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: heavily underrated, Denver being heavily overrated based off last.

838
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: Sear I'm not even thinking about last season, dude. I'm

839
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: only thinking about the situation for a rookie quarterback going

840
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: against one of the best defenses in the NFL and

841
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and having

842
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: to play in altitude in an entirely different situation, that is,

843
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: even from what he's been practicing against and what he

844
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: had in the preseason. I think the Broncos might kill them.

845
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 2: That's fair. Again, that's fair.

846
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: This Tennessee team has a lot of issues, but I

847
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: still think a lot of their problems last year just

848
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: went back to the quarterback position, and people are overrating

849
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: too much about their defensive strugglies.

850
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: Their defense on Tennessee is not as bad as you think.

851
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: I think they might give some problems to bon Nicks

852
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: and this Deptember offense. So I get you where your

853
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: love's coming from, Chad, but I just think it's way two,

854
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: way too high to be bet in this one.

855
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: Seven and a half is high.

856
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: Oh look, we're we're going to do our annual weekly

857
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: head to head on Thursday on Thursday show. So it

858
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: feels like this game might be in contention that one

859
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: of us might pick Ford and one of us might

860
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: pick against it.

861
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't need to I wonder which ones which one.

862
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: I wonder which one sharper square.

863
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, we'll see. We'll see exactly. I don't know.

864
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: I already I'm already against the name of this new show.

865
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, by the way, we need a new

866
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: bet category called S O S because you know, that's

867
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: the name of the show, but also it highlights an

868
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: emergency situation, and I feel like we're going to run

869
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: into some of those over the course.

870
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: I'm trying to save you. Right now, you're fighting me.

871
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say.

872
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: I can't be saved.

873
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: You can't. You got to do You're gonna go into it, don't.

874
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: I am just a lost cause there's just gonna be

875
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: times where I can't help myself. Houston at the Rams

876
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: Leen Rams moved actually in the last twenty four hours

877
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: from two and a half to three. No strong opinion here.

878
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's keep it moving.

879
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 3: I'm with Chad like I want to be on the RAMS,

880
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: but it's just there's just so much little to go

881
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: off here. And yeah, to me, it's under three. That's

882
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: a good number. I'll take the Rams, but I'm with

883
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: you chat. Maybe all more confidence come Thursday, but right

884
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: now I have again, I.

885
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: Have thousands of bets.

886
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: People for a week one you wouldn't want to see

887
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: my binder filled with tickets right.

888
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: Now, this game is so small.

889
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: I bed so little on it because of all the

890
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: injuries to Houston's team, all the injuries to this Rams,

891
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 3: and all the questions around Stafford.

892
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, two and a half. I'll take the Rams.

893
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm with Chad. I just don't have a real read

894
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: on it. As we said, you're on Tuesday.

895
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: Guess what are you ready?

896
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: Yes, sir.

897
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: The biggest move of the offseason, Detroit Lions are head

898
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: into Green Bay. They were one and a half point favorites.

899
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: The line moved a month ago to favor the Packers

900
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: of one and a half. Since the Micah Parsons news,

901
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: it has gone to two and a half. Like on

902
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: our old show, we talked about liking Detroit more and

903
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: more as training camp went on and finding value and

904
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: wanting to like them at plus one forty five to

905
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: win the division again. This was all before the Micah

906
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: Parsons news and we started to like them as one

907
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: and a half point docs. Now they are two and

908
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: a half point docs thanks to the Micah Parsons trade.

909
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: Again a point of value being ascribed to Micah Parsons.

910
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you a story, So Micaeh Parsons was

911
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: traded at about five o'clock on Thursday. I went back

912
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: and I looked to see when the exact line moved happened.

913
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: It was five oh seven pm at that time. I

914
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: had literally just said goodbye to my son after we

915
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: had moved him into his dorm, and we were walking

916
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: away and we are like barely functioning walking to our car.

917
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: Our son and his new roommate were, you know, probably

918
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: fifteen steps ahead of us. We just happened to be

919
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: walking in the same direction, but they were ahead of us.

920
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: And his new roommate is a huge Packers fan, and

921
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: I had been giving him shit the entire day that

922
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: we were moving in about the Packers, right, And as

923
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: we are all walking away, my son, who's ahead of us,

924
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: turns around and says to me, Dad, the Packers just

925
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: traded for Micah Parsons. This was just after five pm.

926
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: And the roommate starts going crazy and saying wildly inappropriate

927
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: shit to someone who is an elder. But I look

928
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: at the when the line move happened five oh seven pm,

929
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: you can think like exactly when Persons was traded. That's

930
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: when the line went from one and a half to

931
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: two and a half, Simon, I'm going to tell you

932
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: right now there are reports that he's going to need

933
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: an injection to play. Chad loves Love, Chad loves the

934
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions at plus two and a half.

935
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: I will say this, Chad, I want to hate it.

936
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: I won't lie to you. I do want to hate it.

937
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 3: I want to go against it because this is going

938
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: to be the most lopsided game and I feel like

939
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: it's such a sucker where I have I probably have

940
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 3: fifty teasers and about half of them have the lines

941
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: in there at seven and a half and now it's

942
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: eight and a half. Now, like it's even better to

943
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: throw them in a teaser. But if you're going off

944
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 3: just straightly against the spread, this is why I love

945
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: Lions with you, and I'm like, again, it's hard for

946
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: me to go against green Bay in the spot because

947
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: this is such a green Bay spot. But Dan Campbell

948
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: eleven and three against the spread in September, that's pretty

949
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: incredible golf our guy eight to oh against the spread

950
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: Week one, eight and oh against the spread, and even better,

951
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 3: he's four and oh straight up and against the spread

952
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: with the Rams, and he's four and oh against the

953
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: spread with the Lions. So it's like this guy just

954
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: does it doesn't matter if he was with the Rams,

955
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: he came to Detroit and they were terrible when he

956
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: came here, and he's still been a covering machine in

957
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: week one.

958
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: So I don't get it. I don't get it.

959
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: I dove into the numbers and it's like who is

960
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: because again I know some professionals who have put six

961
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: figures now onto the Screen Bay team and this was

962
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: before the Parsons news, Like they've been taking a position

963
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: for months on this Green Bay team, even with all

964
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 3: the you know, Love hurting his non throwing hand and

965
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: you know, all the wide receivers being hurt. Again, Golden's

966
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: look great in camp for them, but all their other

967
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: receivers around him have been either injured or falling apart.

968
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: I couldn't be lower on this Packers team coming this

969
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: season because I was high coming in and it was

970
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: just so negative in camp. It really made me doubt them.

971
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: But it really is the little floor factor, right. I

972
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 3: think that's why people love this Packers team so much.

973
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 3: In the spot where the Packers they're fifty to three

974
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: against the spread since twenty nineteen in their first three games,

975
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: they're seven to zero against the.

976
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: Spread in that stretch at Lambeau.

977
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 3: So it's all there, like the trends are telling you

978
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: that this is a spot to back this grave Green

979
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: Bay team at home, But we just went through it.

980
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 3: This Lion's team with Campbell and Golf had been incredible

981
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: in September and especially in the Week one.

982
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: So man, this is a tough one.

983
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to support my guy here, Chad, even though

984
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: it feels inanely trappy.

985
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm with him.

986
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 3: I think the books you're overacting too much. The loss

987
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: of the coordinators. The town level is still very high

988
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 3: for Detroit, and you know we'll see like Green Bay again,

989
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: they might be better down the road. But that Parsons thing,

990
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: I'm with you. That through a real wrench to those

991
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: sole thing where it's like he's getting a shut in

992
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: his back before this game.

993
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: So I'll join I'll take that two and a half

994
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: with this lines.

995
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: All right, now we are freaking talking. Now we are

996
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: on the same page. Now we are finding our rhythm.

997
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a lot of calls about this one.

998
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: Oh, we are going to get so many calls about

999
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 1: this one. I cannot wait but we're going to stand

1000
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: our ground. We have gone against the wise guy community

1001
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: before and it has worked out well for us. There

1002
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: is just not enough respect for this Lion's team. There's

1003
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: one other team that's getting woefully disrespected that we're going

1004
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: to talk about. But I'm glad to see we're on

1005
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: the same page. I'm glad to see we're starting to

1006
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: narrow down our five that we love for a contest,

1007
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: Baltimore at Buffalo. Buffalo is a one and a half

1008
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: point favorites. We can agree that I think Baltimore and

1009
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles might have the best all around rosters in

1010
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 1: the NFL. The Bills opened at one and a half,

1011
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: money kind of flowed into Baltimore. The market moved it

1012
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: to one. Now it's sort of everywhere between pick and

1013
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: one and a half, and I'm a little bit lost

1014
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: on this game. If I can get to one and

1015
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: a half, I really want to back Baltimore. I think

1016
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: they're the better overall team. There's always going to be

1017
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of more hype on the reigning MVP.

1018
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: That's a narrative that people want to bet into if

1019
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: they are public betters. Baltimore to me feels like the

1020
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: play here.

1021
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's put Baltimore and we'll talk more of this

1022
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: about this one on Thursday. For right now, I'm with

1023
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: Chad that I think this is a big advantish this

1024
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: Baltimore team.

1025
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: I think they're the better team on paper.

1026
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 3: My favorite part two is that the last time they

1027
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: were in this exact spot was them losing the playoffs

1028
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: on a heartbreaking drop by you know, a tight times

1029
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: their tight end and Mark Andrews, and that's a big deal, Like,

1030
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 3: you know, that's that's something that's hung about them. They've

1031
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: trained all off season thinking about that with the Bills,

1032
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: they're thinking about the Chiefs. They're not thinking about this

1033
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: Ravens team like that. So yeah, again a game I

1034
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 3: think we'll dive way more to on Thursday. For right now,

1035
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: I want to talk to more people, But I'm with

1036
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: Chad like this one feels very easy on this Raven side.

1037
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: And you know, I have this ad a pick I

1038
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: could get to minus one of the Ravens. I'm sure,

1039
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: like I'm not really dive into it more, but to me,

1040
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: I just think this is a good value on this

1041
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: especially a plus one and a half that's great value

1042
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 3: on this Graven side.

1043
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: Right.

1044
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: Speaking of disrespectful Minnesota, the Chicago Bears. The Chicago Bears

1045
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: are home dogs of one and a half points on

1046
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: Monday Night with a visiting quarterback who was essentially a rookie,

1047
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, who missed all of last season in prime

1048
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: time in his first game. Like last year, the Bears

1049
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: were overinflated because of Caleb Hike hype. But this is insanity.

1050
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: Explain this to me, Simon. Explain this to me as

1051
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: if I'm not a diehard Bears fan who is thinking

1052
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: about this game constantly and is so looking forward to it.

1053
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: Just from a fan perspective, chat, I'll tell you this

1054
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: is that we don't trust Caleb Williams. I think that's

1055
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: the first part of it, where when I'm looking at

1056
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: betting this side, that was like, my hardest part is

1057
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 3: getting over everything I saw last year from Caleb.

1058
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: And again that's not all Caleb, that.

1059
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 3: Was on the coaching staff and how they failed him

1060
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 3: in many ways. And then it's a question of your

1061
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: head coaching position.

1062
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: It's like I like this guy a lot.

1063
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 3: I love what he's going to do for your team

1064
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: going forward, but in Week one, I'm going to give

1065
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: the advantage to this Viking step that I've been together

1066
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: that you know, their biggest changes obviously had the quarterback position,

1067
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: which is a big one. But the Bears this is

1068
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: all new. This is the new defeasive scheme. It's a

1069
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: new offensive scheme with a lot of moving parts, and

1070
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 3: there might be some really hard growing pains for this team.

1071
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: Especially you have calem going against Brian Flores, one of

1072
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: the best defensive coordinators in football.

1073
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: So I would say that is why they've made them

1074
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: a dog. But I'm with you.

1075
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 3: It's like JJ McCarthy is a favorite in his first

1076
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 3: start on the road in divisional game at.

1077
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: Monday night football. Are you kidding me?

1078
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 3: So I'm with you, like I'm back in this Barriers team.

1079
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: But I would say from the public perspective, that is

1080
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: why I guess people are betting this Vikings team and

1081
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: they're getting the respect as a favorite right now.

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Speaker 2: But I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 3: I could not believe, I mean months ago when this

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Speaker 3: opened up and they were a favorite on.

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Speaker 2: The road, Vikings in this exact spot.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's once again, it's the off season hype, right.

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Speaker 3: People are thinking themselves, Well, if Sam Darnov, you get

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Speaker 3: this team to fourteen, and do imagine what JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 3: can do if he's just you know, half the quarterback

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Speaker 3: we think he can be with the potential he has

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Speaker 3: coming out of Michigan. So the hype is right now

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Speaker 3: for this Vikings team. And you're right you want to be.

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Speaker 3: If you're a Bears fan, you're being counted out already,

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Speaker 3: underdogged week one at home. So I think this is

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Speaker 3: a nice spot in this primetime game for this Bears team.

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Speaker 1: Simon, you know, like a bunch of my buddies will

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Speaker 1: send me money before the season starts, and I will,

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Speaker 1: as I like to say, invest the money wisely over

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. And I will give our

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Speaker 1: investment group a new name every year, normally related to

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Speaker 1: the Bears. Last year it was Calebkncash. Not a great

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Speaker 1: year for the Caleb can Cash Investment Group.

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Speaker 2: This year, the.

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Speaker 1: Name, it's all about the Ben jim In Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I see what you did that I did there.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we got like a great roster of

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Speaker 1: games that were narrowing down and digging in on the Bears,

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Speaker 1: the Lion, the Ravens, the Browns, maybe the Cowboys, Uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Panthers, maybe the commanders. This is good. I

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Speaker 1: like where we're headed. And we get to Thursday, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about your biggest bet of the week. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go head to head. We're gonna have our favorite

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Speaker 1: calls from our favorite wise guys. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: very ballsy bet. Uh. We're gonna have one more special

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Speaker 1: bet for all of our listeners new and old. Thursday,

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Speaker 1: one thirty pm Eastern on YouTube. We are Sharper Square,

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Speaker 1: part of the Volume podcast Network. Like I said, one

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Speaker 1: thirty Thursday afternoon, we'll be zeroing in on some of

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Speaker 1: the picks we love the most. Listen, Apple Pods, Spotify,

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