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Speaker 1: with Me Heidi Hollie on the I Heart Radio at

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Speaker 1: Coast to Coast ay AM Parenormal Podcast Network. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: my show. Remember each week this is the place that

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Speaker 1: you go to when you want to hear the latest

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Speaker 1: when it comes to anything out of the ordinary. And

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about personal stories. I'm not talking about just

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Speaker 1: sitting here talking the whole time about other things, things

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Speaker 1: that are for the research. Always it is personal. People

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Speaker 1: are reaching out. Have you reached out if you listen

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Speaker 1: to my show, you have something that's on your mind,

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Speaker 1: something that you've experienced, something that you've known, or that

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Speaker 1: you've heard of in the family co worker. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the place. So go to my main website,

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Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow folks dot

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Speaker 1: com for those of you who cannot spell my name.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, uh, and tell me as much

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Speaker 1: details as you would like. Don't feel bad because I

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Speaker 1: am telling you. We love the big juicy emails. They

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Speaker 1: are really helpful and helping to decipher what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And you know, for a lot of people that are

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Speaker 1: trying to get into this understanding of the paranormal, they're listening,

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Speaker 1: they're following the patterns. We're trying to create this understanding

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Speaker 1: out there instead of having this cookie cutter like, well,

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Speaker 1: I was here for twenty four hours and I don't

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Speaker 1: of people sometimes, because they're really risking a lot when

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Speaker 1: they step forward. I don't know many people that are like, yep,

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Speaker 1: very long time. I don't have a movie made. I

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Speaker 1: it gets goofed anyhow when I get on some of

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Speaker 1: these shows sometimes, but it happens. What can you do?

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Speaker 1: But one thing I gotta tell you, guys, Wow, July

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Speaker 1: thus far it was their top rated show of the season.

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Speaker 1: So I want to thank you guys for your support.

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Speaker 1: That was really kind of you, and I hope that,

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Speaker 1: So check it out. And wow, so many great compliments

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Speaker 1: told you so honestly, UM, just find me and my

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Speaker 1: social media handles are all of them pretty much at

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Speaker 1: one Heidi Hollis And Uh, you don't have to friend

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Speaker 1: requests me. You could just send a request for messages

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Speaker 1: and I will connect with you. How's that? Um, I

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Speaker 1: I am para normal podcast network. Well guess what, guys,

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Speaker 1: off with a whoa. It's not often I get bat

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Speaker 1: This one says Hi, Heidi, please get in touch with me.

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Speaker 1: I'm having a shadow person problem. That's a lot of

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Speaker 1: keep these things at bay and to tell others right,

424
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: we're here to prevent the seeds so people can at

425
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: least feel comfortable enough to like, Hey, Susie, so are

426
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: you join to these topics? Um? So I kind of

427
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: saw something, you know, Let them be more comfortable to

428
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: bring these things up so they don't suffer alone. We

429
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: can't let people suffer alone in this stuff. It's hard,

430
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: It is really hard, and anything I want to make

431
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: my mark in that way, let people know, like, uh,

432
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: this is not something that you just sit there with

433
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: a flashlight under your chin making spooky sounds to talk about.

434
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: We have got to get comfortable with this because it's

435
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: not going anywhere, and it's gonna get worse. And it

436
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: is getting worse, and uh, trust me, you're hearing my emails.

437
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: This is spooky, is it not all right? So alright,

438
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: continuing continuing, Um, this one says, Hi, Heidi, you can

439
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: use my name? Okay, great, what's your name? Oh, Michael? Uh,

440
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: I listen to you on I Heart Radio. Well awesome.

441
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: You asked for a story. Yes I do. I always do. Um. Well,

442
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: it's not much of a story, but I will tell

443
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: you what happened that confirmed to me there is a

444
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: spirit world. Okay. Back in I lived in Tucson, Arizona.

445
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: While in Tucson, I discovered a vortex. Who I've seen

446
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: one of those. It's pretty freaky in person especially, and

447
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: I formed a relationship with this vortex. Mm hm. The

448
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: experience at times would become very frightening. Why bet, I

449
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: would lose control over my body and my voice would

450
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: become someone else's. Well, Michael, that's sounding like a possession

451
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: type of thing. All right. I had this relationship with

452
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: this vortex for months, and on one morning, I was

453
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: given uh ten hand massage by spirits. Have you ever

454
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: heard of a ten hand massage? They're awesome and unforgettable.

455
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: This one was my first and only one. It lasted

456
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes. I don't know. That sounds kind of

457
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: kinda I don't know. Um, not right, but I'm gonna

458
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: look this up here. Okay, okay, uh, five people similed

459
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: taneously massaging rhythmically to music, and what one does, it

460
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: passes on to the other. Okay, okay, alright, this is

461
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: this is different I was I'm learning today. I'm learning

462
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: I've never heard of such a thing. But it sounds

463
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: freaky to experience from unseen perhaps unclean spirits. I don't know. Um.

464
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: I hope this is one of the spooky times, Michael,

465
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: because that sounds spooky. Um, because that just happened out

466
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: of nowhere in the morning, like wow. Okay, um, alright,

467
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: so it's unforgettable. It's your first and only one. Last

468
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. This vortext wasn't in some hidden location. It

469
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: was at a baseball field that was next to a

470
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: school and library. The events at the Vortex led me

471
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: to writing my first book. It was just like you

472
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: had told the story. Huh what, It's just like you

473
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: and had to tell the story. Okay, you had to

474
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: tell the story. Okay. The part about the ten hand

475
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: massage isn't in the book. As you well know, not

476
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: everything you want to say can make it into your book.

477
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: You just can't say it at all, Thank you, Michael. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

478
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: that's true. I mean you have to filter some things out.

479
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: What I don't understand. It's like, how did you come

480
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: across this? Um? You know, like where I'm biting. Okay,

481
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: where'd you come across this? Did you just like happened

482
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: to be playing baseball one day or somebody threw a

483
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: baseball into a void and you thought, wow, I bet

484
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: there's a vortex there. Um, you know, like what was

485
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: going on? And did you just visit this regularly? Uh?

486
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of questions, a lot of

487
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: questions now for myself when I experience a vortex. UM.

488
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: I never had seen something like this before, absolutely never have. UM.

489
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: But it is exploring yours a little bit further. So

490
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: you know that things are reaching out and touching you.

491
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: That's a little too close, Michael, Um, I would be

492
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: worried about stuff like I don't know, possession or getting

493
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: a hitchhiker too. Uh, come back home with you. You know,

494
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: it's a vortex. It's a it's a division between realities,

495
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: is what I'm assuming you're hinting at, UM, and things

496
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: can pass through it. And maybe it softening you up

497
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: for a good whole possession. Yeah. Um, I hope not.

498
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: I hope that everything turned out okay, you seem okay,

499
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: I think, um, but not everybody would be okay with

500
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: what you're just describing here. I'm sure wouldn't. It's like

501
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: something touched me. I'm spinning around, Okay, what was it?

502
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: What was it? And I'm looking you know, but ten

503
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: ten hands rhythmically massaging your entire body. Um, when you

504
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: let your guard down, things like that can take advantage.

505
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: There might be when that's off key and really cause harm. Um. Yeah,

506
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: so I don't know, all right, So when I had

507
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: come across a vortex, I don't believe I've shared it

508
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: here on this program. I might have it, I know. Um,

509
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: I was speaking somewhere and um, when you go to

510
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: speak at different conferences and whatnot, people are like, oh, oh,

511
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I live close. You have got to see what I've got,

512
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm always open. I'm like, sure, okay,

513
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: what's going on? And I was with a group of

514
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: cool friends of mine and uh, we're like all like

515
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: I was going on adventure, sure you know, and and

516
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: we're like trickly on over and uh it was. Um

517
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: the lady warned us. She said, you know, I've got bigfoot,

518
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: I've got spirit orbs, and I've got a vortex and

519
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff on my property. It's like cool, Okay, alright,

520
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: I feel okay, I've got several friends with me, you know,

521
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: and um, we come upon this area okay. And more recently,

522
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: I've watched the show skin Walker Ranch. Okay, so if

523
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: you have seen it, and you might know what I'm

524
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: talking about. But so we had a couple of hours

525
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: hanging out with these folks and a beautiful place and

526
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: a good time and all this stuff, and then all

527
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden we see this this light coming up

528
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: out of the ground and we just kind of froze,

529
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: and she goes, oh, there it is, you know, like

530
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: there goes the vortex. What a beam of light? Did

531
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: you see it? Also in the skin Walker Ranch show?

532
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Beam of light going up? And I am not kidding you.

533
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: At that time, like we had cameras, all right, disposable cameras,

534
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: and we had all run out of our film. We

535
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: just didn't have film left. And of course this vortex

536
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: pops up right then and it was really, really, really

537
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: aggravating that we couldn't get a shot of it, but

538
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: they're probably about eight of us witnessing this thing. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

539
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 1: But I've seen a vortex, and we saw something that

540
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: looked like it was poking its head out actually, and

541
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: there was just all this energy around it. And I

542
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I've never seen such a congregation of

543
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: orbs around a property so much. And well, hello, there's

544
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: a big vortex shooting a big, old bright beam of

545
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: light out of the ground. So that could be indeed

546
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: why there was so much activity going on, bigfoot activity,

547
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: all sorts of things, anything that you can imagine was

548
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: happening right then and there. And I was just absolutely enamored.

549
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: And it's an experience that I talked about quite a

550
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: bit still. So yeah, I believe in vord Texas. A

551
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: lot of people have documented them over the years. But again,

552
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: how do you prove it? How can you say this

553
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: is for real? And if it was really a magnificent event,

554
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: guess what something it would be corned off because that's

555
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: the way our government rolls. I mean, you just think

556
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: of El jun Gay Forest and anytime somebody goes missing

557
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: in the forest and there was a suspected bigfoot sighting

558
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: in the area. Suddenly you can't bring your dogs in

559
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: even to helping us arch for a missing person. What

560
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: what bigfoot was found? Oh so you know, and then

561
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: the person's missing. Oh yeah, we're just gonna kind of

562
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: control the situation here. No no, no, no, that is

563
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: not okay. There is a problem. And um, yeah, so

564
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: because vore Texas are real um and uh, the government

565
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Of course they are capable of

566
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: spotting this stuff. Of course they're able to document this stuff,

567
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, watching uh things like skin Walker Ranch and

568
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: knowing what was going on there and in the government

569
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: and Bigelow and they all packed up their bags and

570
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: moved on out because they got enough the information. And

571
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: these people in one little trip over there, they got

572
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: all this information and documentation of something wild going on.

573
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: Imagine the amount of documentation the government got along with

574
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: Bigelow when they were there for I don't know years

575
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: and years. You know, so we got we gotta we

576
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: gotta understand. They have a lot of college and suddenly

577
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: it is not to be shared and we are once

578
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: again left in the dark. Why is that? Because the technology,

579
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: the technology that exists, and that it's showing itself to

580
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: be here in this world. And the anomalies not just

581
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: a technology, the anomalies going on. It just lets you

582
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: know that, Uh, it's something to behold and to be having.

583
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: And people are you know, always surviving what what they discover,

584
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, suddenly they go missing. You know, I discovered

585
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: free energy and I can create levitating motors and all

586
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: this stuff, and all of a sudden they get shut down,

587
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: they mysteriously die and you never hear about this stuff again.

588
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: They're arrested and cars ory or whatever. I mean, it's

589
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: it's insanity, guys. It's um, it's a shame because who's

590
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: running this show. I thought the taxpayers did. But absolutely, no,

591
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: absolutely no, absolutely, I mean, how how can we if

592
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: we don't even know or get to sign on the

593
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: dotted line to say, sure, donate money over here for

594
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: this or for that. You know. Uh, it's just it's

595
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: not for the people. It's not with the people. And

596
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: I think this is true for any country. Unfortunately. I mean,

597
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: we try to make change, right, we try to step

598
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: up and do different things, and uh, you know, still

599
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: ultimately we're at the mercy of uh, you know, a

600
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: handful of people and and we're left in the dark.

601
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of technology that is out there,

602
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of understandings that's out there, and they are

603
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: not going to tell us, not ever. No, it's a

604
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: it's a shame and a sham and uh, I hate

605
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: to be the one to break it to you, like

606
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: telling you guys, you guys should know this by now, right.

607
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I know one day, you know, when we're looking back

608
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: on this lifetime, are going what they were able to do.

609
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: What I could have saved my kid from cancer because

610
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: they had the cure all the time. Oh my gosh,

611
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have to pay the electric bill and and

612
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: like get kicked out at my home because I couldn't

613
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: keep up with the bills. There's free energy all that

614
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: while and wouldn't have to depend on fossil fuels. Yeah,

615
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: all that all that stuff. And oh what they're going

616
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: to other planets with the first engineered alien technology. Yeah,

617
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: I said it all right. So anyways, we gotta get

618
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: to our next break. You guys, you are listening to

619
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I

620
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back. You are listening to

622
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I

623
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network.

624
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm breathing. I'm breathing after that little role

625
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: there on all the lovely elements I think of this, Um,

626
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: this little shindig of our power is going um as

627
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: they are getting full of themselves and doing so much

628
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: with alien technology, UM and and not not stopping to

629
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: consult with the rest of us. Where'd that come from?

630
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: You know? I I talk about these things here and

631
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: then and UM, I have met so many people of

632
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: the years and people who want to be anonymous. Others

633
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: are whistleblowers who are being painfully honest about what it

634
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: is they know to be true going on in this reality.

635
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: It's it's our reality. It's going on here. I mean,

636
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: we did hear about, uh, the new congressional bill right

637
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: to help protect whistleblowers who want to share about UFOs.

638
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about that? How? How cool

639
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: is that? Why do we need that protection? But you know,

640
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: I heard people, you know, making some good points about

641
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: like what we've already had. The whistleblowers have already been

642
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: stepping forward. It's just just a way to grab their

643
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: names so they can hush them, like, oh, that one

644
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: knows too much. Maybe we should bop their car a

645
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: little bit. You know. It's it's um, it's scary. It's scary.

646
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: And I've had those conversations where people are like, want

647
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: to keep my pension. I don't want to. I don't

648
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: want to ruin that for me and my family. But man,

649
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: are we doing some stuff. And it's like, how many thousands,

650
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: if not millions of our young men and women who

651
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: are in the military who went in there to try

652
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: to make a difference, you know, protect our rights and

653
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, honorable things. And then they're they're put to

654
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: this whole thing of all right, we're gonna go and

655
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: drag that UFO off and we're gonna we're gonna reverse

656
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: engineer that um keep you under our thumbs, and don't

657
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: you dare speak of it because death might follow you.

658
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: You know, like how horrible, how horrible, what a thing

659
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: to live with? And uh, then people hear of there's

660
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: been these these things also where the brainwashing, um, you know,

661
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: wiping their memories clear. And if you have any doubts

662
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: about there being that kind of technology, I mean, here

663
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: we got havana syndrome. It's causing irreparable damage to people.

664
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: It's as if they got hit in the head. Memory issues, dizzy, uh,

665
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, speech problems, word finding issues, all this stuff.

666
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: So man, these people toy with stuff and it should

667
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: make everybody angry, honestly, not just myself. It's just highly disappointing.

668
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: How about that. I'll cool it to say it's disappointing. Um, yeah,

669
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: because I got one for you. I got one for you.

670
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: All right, this is this is really Craig Cray. Alright,

671
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: this is Craig Cray. And I I know how it's

672
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: gonna sound. But you know, we like a good ghost

673
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: hunting like episode every once in a while where they're like, oh,

674
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: they've got a really good e v P electronic voice

675
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: phenomena for those of you who do not know, which

676
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: is like a ghostly voice speaking saying you know, we're

677
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: here or get out, and and it's always this whispy

678
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: like voice, like it's like a whisper. Uh. Also, when

679
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: I've ever heard a ghost, it's always like this, like Heidi,

680
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: you wanna talk about the chill. That's a chill. That's

681
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: a chill moment, right, not talking about you know, relaxing

682
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: and eating grapes chill. I'm talking about down to the bone,

683
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: like horrifying and um. So, I don't know what it

684
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: is about crossing over through these different voids in our

685
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: in our world. It makes their voices quite weak. Um.

686
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: I guess because they don't have vocal cords physically, maybe

687
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: that that could be it. Um. But but okay, so

688
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: electronic voice phenomena. So we believe these things to be actual, Right,

689
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: we're getting some good stuff, Like we hear children, we

690
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: hear women, we hear cries and screams and and growls

691
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: on these things. And it's pretty pretty palpable. I mean,

692
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, I really got at just now, right,

693
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: So imagine imagine this. And and also I I've had

694
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: um uh some folks come on the program here who

695
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: have different types of e VP boxes and um the

696
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: ones that they made up. Even then Evox and UH

697
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: Tony and Sheari they've been doing some great things with

698
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: the work that they've been tinkering around with with different

699
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: UH toys and and it's amazing. It's amazing. I even

700
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: had a session on there, and uh, I was blown

701
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: away with what they got and just still kind of

702
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: sense chills down my spine of what came across there. Um,

703
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: but look at this. Oh and it's probably an important

704
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: that with a Tony and Shari Rathman's um evox machine

705
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: that they didn't just get ghosts, they also got angelic, alien,

706
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: demonic all in one. So imagine that. Imagine that. And

707
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: they've been working with these types of EBox machines that

708
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: they've been creating for a decade or so, and it's

709
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: amazing what they're getting and to be able to distinguish

710
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: and and decipher better what they're hearing. Because when I

711
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: was listening, I'm like, oh, I kind of heard and

712
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, nope, I know that influence in that

713
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: voice with that Okay, got it, you know, And he

714
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: totally like, uh transcribed it, and I was like shocked. Okay,

715
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: So if my friends can do that, what do you

716
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: what do you think the government is aware of? What?

717
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: What do you think they're able to create to listen

718
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: into these other worlds going on around us too? Would

719
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: you be surprised if they had such a thing. Well,

720
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: I've got it on good authority that indeed they do that.

721
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: They have various types of equipment to hear the voices

722
00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: that others meaning beings not from here, demonic, angelic and

723
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: ghostly phenomena, that they are recording them too. That they've

724
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: got a little portable box that they go around with

725
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: and listen. Yeah, how does that make you feel? Did

726
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: they put that on the news anywhere? No? No, no,

727
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: they'll just make it seem like we're all nuts, right

728
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: that we're experiencing these things. They make no mention about it.

729
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: But this is a little sad gig that they're doing,

730
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: a little side hustle. Yeah, that's what that's what they're doing.

731
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'll never forget when I saw I saw

732
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: the job that the scientists had working for the government

733
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: somewhere in d C. And one of his jobs was

734
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: to test which catchup was the runniest or the thickest.

735
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: And he put um in this little container thing and

736
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: flip the catchup bottle and see which one would run.

737
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: I mean, did they did they ask gus? Did they

738
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: ask us, like, you know what, I'd like to give

739
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: up my home for that to pay that man salary.

740
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: That's not fair, that's not fair. But this is what's

741
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: going on. So they've been listening in on e v

742
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: P like type sessions and technologies. I mean, hello, if

743
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: we can listen to somebody that's scratching their leg from

744
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: a satellite, what are they hearing with this technology that

745
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to uh, non physical voices coming through

746
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: the ethers, they know a lot, guys, they do, they

747
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: do so Uh sometimes I get a little salt um

748
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: that goes a little bit deeper into the wounds on

749
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: this for me, because it's like, ah, the people who

750
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: they have hushed, the people whose lives they've disrupted and

751
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: lost sleep, their their health as they're just you know,

752
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: having a good old time them with this technology. Oh

753
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: that's a matter of national security. Ghosts really, ghost voices,

754
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: eliot voices in my living room. You've got a box

755
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: like that. Why don't you put that thing on and

756
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: best buy or something so we can all go purchase one,

757
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: you know, so we can have a better understanding too.

758
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: That's not come on. So it's upsetting because I have

759
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: been in this for so long and I've met these

760
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: people who are so upset and they're dealing with these things.

761
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: They have no answers and they don't know what to do.

762
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: And here we've got our government taking video of a

763
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: candy flying through the sky. Tic tac, come on, they

764
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: can go and back up the camera and pan around

765
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: to the UFO. They were probably chasing it in. I

766
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: mean that they back engineered or something. Um, because I

767
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: know they've got them. We all know they've got them, right,

768
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: we all are aware of this. So I'm just hoping

769
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: and praying that uh, you know, we can reel in

770
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: these people that claim to have our best interest to uh,

771
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, face up and give us a break because

772
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: a lot of us really need that. A lot of

773
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: us really need to have that moment to be okay

774
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: in our world and in our homes. And uh if

775
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: there's a piece of equipment that's going to help us

776
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: get atle bit more comfortable with that, please tell us

777
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: give us a hint, because we need that, we really do. Alright.

778
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: So I I ranted here a little bit, have to

779
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: skip an email, but I'll be just for the next show, right, UM.

780
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: I hope you guys have enjoyed this conversation and the

781
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: big reveal the government in the sinking. The government has

782
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: powerful electronic voice phenomenon machinery. I don't know what they

783
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: call it, uh for themselves. I mean maybe they call

784
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: it the enterprise for all we know. And they are

785
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 1: tuning in too. They're listening to the spirit world. They're

786
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: listening into all these different waves that are coming in

787
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: and they can tell the difference too. So yeah, let

788
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: that sink in. Everybody who whoos just whoo saw it?

789
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: You know, That's all you can do because they're not

790
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: gonna help. They're not gonna help. They're going to have

791
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: a good old time hoarding this information for themselves and

792
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: maybe make a nice installation in the walls of their

793
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: base on Mars that they're tending to. All right, but

794
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, get the imagination flowing. Everybody, come along with me.

795
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: Um all right, you guys, so we've come to the

796
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: bottom of another fabulous program. I hope you enjoyed yourselves,

797
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: um as I did. And uh yeah, go to my

798
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: main website. Tell me what's going on, what's on your mind?

799
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: You want to whistle story, you come here first, all right? Uh,

800
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: go to Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot

801
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: com and tell me your stories. Give the most detail

802
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: that you can and also find me on Twitter, Instagram, Gosh, TikTok, Facebook,

803
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: all that at one Heidi Hollis and uh yeah, and

804
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: and reach out because if you've got a problem going on,

805
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I could be of help and I see I will

806
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: pop on and help you out as well, so um yeah,

807
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: and check out. Also I have the comic strip at

808
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: the Outlanders comic on Instagram, and yeah, I'm here for

809
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: you guys that kind a crack a joke at these

810
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: things as well. And and live your lives. All right,

811
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Speaker 1: we can do this. We got this, We got this.

812
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: And again, go to the c W Seed app and

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Speaker 1: watch Mysteries Dacoded Episode three. I am co hosting with

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