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Speaker 2: us for another episode of night Cap. Oh Joe, we

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Speaker 2: finally got an interesting game in the Western Conference Finals. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: if you're a Wolves fan, it did not go in

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Speaker 2: OKC build an eleven point lead and they hold on

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Speaker 2: to the Western and advance to the NBA Finals for

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Speaker 2: the first time since twenty twelve. Wow, Chat Holger and

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Williams and Chat Holger, They're Big three. Was sensational tonight.

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Speaker 2: You enjoyed it, you were safe, you didn't need too much.

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Speaker 2: But now we get to the ball game. The Thunder

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Speaker 2: beat the t Woods Oh Show three to take a

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Speaker 2: three to one series lead. Shake Gil Just Alexander had

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Speaker 2: a career playoff high forty points, nine rebounds, ten assists.

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Speaker 3: He's Almo.

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Speaker 2: He almost had a trip dub, flirt flirted the ride

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Speaker 2: and almost got a trip dub. The fourth player in

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Speaker 2: WNBA history of the forty five to ten game in

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Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals Julius Randall. In Game four, he

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Speaker 2: was as bit abysmal as he was in Game two.

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Speaker 2: Five turnovers, one bucket. T Woods led the game in rebounds, assists,

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Speaker 4: Listen, they lost everything cross across the board.

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Speaker 2: Man, what I don't understand? What I don't understand? And

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Speaker 2: I need somebody to help me understand. That's more knowledgeable

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Speaker 1: Me.

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Speaker 2: You mean to tell me a man, You guys got

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Speaker 2: a chance to tie this thing up. If you don't

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Speaker 2: with two of them being in OKC is not very good.

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Speaker 2: And you have two shot attempts at the half, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jewish Ramler, you have four shot attempts at the half.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I can say about shake YOJ justs

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Speaker 2: he don't give a damn about efficiency. He's gonna get

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Speaker 3: But that way you're not gonna get any points.

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Speaker 2: Shade's like, you know what, the worst thing that could happen,

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Speaker 2: there's three things that could happen. I can make it,

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Speaker 2: three things that could happen. Yeah, And he had thirty

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Speaker 2: shot attempts tonight he only had he had forty points,

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Speaker 2: but he got to the line fourteen times. You gonna

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Speaker 2: look at Jalen Williams, he had twenty four shot attempts.

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Speaker 2: You look at Ched Hogren, he had fourteen shot attempts.

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Speaker 2: Those three, they're big three combined for ninety five points. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: add Man sixteen points on five or thirteen. Julius Randall

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Speaker 2: twenty two you got two starters, three starters, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: and they gave you twenty seven points, and you expect

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Speaker 2: to win a beat that team, a team that won

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Speaker 2: sixty eight games. Now, the bench players, nos Reed, Devin Chenzo, Nikill,

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Speaker 2: played really well, not to fifteen from the four, three

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Speaker 2: Julius Render took the approach that they took the first half.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I have no idea, especially with the gate. To me,

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Speaker 5: it's two to one. The game is on the line,

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Speaker 5: the series is on the line. The fact series on

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Speaker 5: the line. Well, the fact that you have four points,

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Speaker 5: you have five shots. Knowing that Anthony Edwards, you have

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Speaker 5: to be aggressive. You got to you got to come.

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Speaker 5: You got to come out the same way you came

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Speaker 5: out the previous game where you guys won. You aggressive,

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Speaker 5: You attack and listen, what did Anthony finished with sixteen points?

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Speaker 3: Five turnovers? Three?

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Speaker 5: Not in the game of this magnitude. Not the game

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Speaker 5: of this magnitude. And this I understand. They made it

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Speaker 5: that made it very difficult defensively, so with what was happening.

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Speaker 5: As soon as Anthony got the ball, most of the

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Speaker 5: time they trapped he passed it out, then they get

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Speaker 4: Then it was it was one and one. From that point,

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Speaker 2: They trapped Lebron, they trapped Kobe, they trapped Jordan, they

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Speaker 2: trapped steph they trapped KD. They trapped. If he is

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Speaker 2: what he said it is. He said he's the best

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Speaker 2: player in basketball. I don't want to hear noth about no traps.

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Speaker 2: I don't make no excuses. You had two shots, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You mean to tell me you that defense is that

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Speaker 2: juis round. You mean to tell me their defense is

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Speaker 2: that's suffocating. They're only going to allow you four shot

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Speaker 2: attempts in the first half. You two, the two players

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Speaker 2: on the timber Wolves got six shot of Timpsojo nah man,

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Speaker 2: I can't rock with that.

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Speaker 5: The funny thing about it is, listen, it was fourteen

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Speaker 5: and fourteen different fourteen different league lead changes, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: came down to the end of the game.

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Speaker 4: The game was the game was then reach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the game was in reach for the Wolves, obviously,

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Speaker 5: but execution down down the stretch, especially over the last

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Speaker 5: two minutes where it came down to it, they didn't deliver.

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Speaker 2: You got sixty four points from your Benchjojo. I mean

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Speaker 2: when you look at it, you look at Shanon Junior,

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Speaker 2: he gave you a two or three, one or two

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Speaker 2: to five of eight from the three point line. That's

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Speaker 2: twenty three points. Deevin Cimzos seven of eleven, five of eight,

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Speaker 3: That's eleven.

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Speaker 2: So you got sixty four points from your bitch. You

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Speaker 2: got sixty two from your starters. I'm confused. Hey, I

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Speaker 2: think that's what Why thirty let's see thirty three, thirty two, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thirty two, fifty five and nine and sixty four. You

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Speaker 2: have one hundred. You had one hundred and twenty six.

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Speaker 2: That's unacceptable, Joe, I just I wish I could tell

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Speaker 2: you something better. Thirty five one, fifty one, fifty seven,

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Speaker 2: sixty two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, listen, I obviously I picked the Wolves. I

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Speaker 4: picked the Wolves to win this series.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I had picked the Wolves to actually make it

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Speaker 5: to the finals. Obviously with my love and enthusiasm for

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Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards as a player in the individual and what

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Speaker 5: he brings to the game, and thinking, well, meet you

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Speaker 5: know him being obviously to face the NBA because he

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Speaker 5: has that factor that most most players don't have to

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Speaker 5: be that but watching this OKC team tonight and what

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Speaker 5: I've come to learn in my short time and join

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Speaker 5: the game of basketball.

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Speaker 4: The Thunder is the most complete team in the league.

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Speaker 5: And the scary part about them, based on what I've

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Speaker 5: seen and eyewitnessed, They're only gonna get better. They're only

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Speaker 5: gonna get better after this championship run. They have a

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Speaker 5: great chance to obvialy.

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Speaker 3: Well, how you're gonna keep it together?

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Speaker 4: That That's what I'm gonna say. They got the MVP.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he' about to sign He's about to sign a

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Speaker 2: four year deal for two ninety four. Were he could

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Speaker 2: wait the next year to sign a five year deal

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Speaker 2: for three eighty knowing kat home rings about to come up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but but knowing Sca with as much as he

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Speaker 5: that four year to be able to keep keep everybody together.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not, still not, because what you're gonna do

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Speaker 2: with yet next year? That's a small market team, ojo. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's not New York, that's not LA, that's not Chicago,

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Speaker 2: that's Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jaylen Williams, all them role players, all the role.

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Speaker 5: Players that you got, they're gonna like, Hey, hold on,

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Speaker 5: I got a question for you now about this. These

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Speaker 5: role players, right, the Glue guys and they have the

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Speaker 5: MVP got a legit second option.

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Speaker 3: Jala Walliams plays centation. He was second notion.

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Speaker 4: You got two elite bigs. You know, I hate you

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Speaker 4: worthy elite.

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Speaker 5: But based on the way they god damn played, I'm

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Speaker 5: just gonna say leap for the sake of the argument.

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Speaker 5: Then you have the the Glue lives and the role players.

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Speaker 5: Do they want to leave understanding what you have? If

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Speaker 5: you guys stay together, I want.

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Speaker 2: Money, Oh you I can't eat them rings. So you

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Speaker 2: mean to tell me I can go somewhere and make

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Speaker 2: five to twenty million or I want to stay here

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Speaker 2: to make three to six million.

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Speaker 5: And it's it's who all is up? We know SGA

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Speaker 5: gotta get paid. Chit has to get paid next year,

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Speaker 5: right this Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is this is chet third year. Yeah, because remember

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Speaker 2: he missed his first year. He came back last year.

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Speaker 3: I think they just did something with Jayala Williams.

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Speaker 5: So he's said, he's like, uh huh, Hey, they listen.

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Speaker 3: I think they did something with Caruso.

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Speaker 5: Also, you under the well, you know, But for me,

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Speaker 5: do you know how good this team actually is?

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Speaker 3: Young? But that's what you do if you keep if

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Speaker 3: you keep this together.

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Speaker 4: Let's say they might they probably will win the title.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 5: I love the Pacers. The Pacers probably gonna win that

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Speaker 5: series against the Necks. But there's no way the Pacers

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Speaker 5: beat the Okayce team we just saw the night. They're

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Speaker 5: too complete. Not only that, not only the starters, even

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Speaker 5: that's I know, you want to get paid, you want

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Speaker 5: can't eat them rings, but you can get you can

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Speaker 5: get you another two with the squad you got right now.

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Speaker 2: You rather have another two rings or one hundred million,

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Speaker 2: make it sixty sixty million, because you're talking about got

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Speaker 2: the rings only going to impact Shade home Run Jalen Williams.

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Speaker 2: When you get the role players on your rings don't

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Speaker 2: impact nobody. I mean, they're nice to have their nice

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Speaker 2: to the elite because of rings actually matter. Robert Rory

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Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame. He got seven, and

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Speaker 2: he was a contributor, big contributor on all the teams.

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Speaker 2: He go back and look the two in Houston. You

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Speaker 2: He was a major, major contributor. He was contributing more

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Speaker 2: as equal, if not more than any role player that's

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Speaker 3: The fight, that's playing currently. And he did it.

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Speaker 2: He hit big shots, play big and big moments and

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Speaker 2: all three stops. Now we know Superstar got seven rings.

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Speaker 2: We talked about he pantheon, So I think that's the

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Speaker 2: I just I'm shocked. I'm watching this game and I'm

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, Ojo, you want to do the

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Speaker 2: right thing. But six assists with five turnovers isn't the

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Speaker 2: right thing. Now, if you tell me you have twelve assists,

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Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen sists and five turnovers, I can live with that.

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Speaker 3: But I can't live you got to go down. I'm swinging.

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Speaker 3: I'm empty.

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Speaker 2: The clip got to I'm empty. Whatever it is, the

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Speaker 2: whole nine yards, that's the term they use because I

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Speaker 3: You know, those spring up belief that on that only yet.

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Speaker 5: As close as as close as the game was towards

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Speaker 5: the end, I really think there would be a difference.

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Speaker 5: I think there would have been differs in the game

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Speaker 5: more production offensively from me, yeah, from manager it definitely,

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Speaker 5: it definitely would have been a huge difference.

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Speaker 2: They were six, they were six. Julius Randall and ant

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Speaker 2: Man was six or twenty from the floor. There was

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Speaker 2: one of ten from the three. Let me repeat that

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Speaker 2: and look at the games in which they've lost. Look

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Speaker 2: He was one for nine in the second game. In

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Speaker 2: the second game, he was one for seven in this game.

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Speaker 2: Look at Jewish Ramden games two, he was awful. He

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Speaker 2: didn't even play the fourth quarter. Game three, he came

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Speaker 2: back with Avenger. He had aunt. Game four, he was

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Speaker 2: terrible again. That's two games. Fifty percent of the games

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Speaker 2: that he's played in he's had single digit points. He's

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Speaker 2: your second best player. That's that you can't have. You

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Speaker 2: the mere fact that the game was disclose when your

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Speaker 2: fact that you're in the ball game. Let you know

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Speaker 2: how well the others played. I need my big dogs

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Speaker 2: to eat. And Alexander Walker, Deevin Chims Old nos.

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Speaker 4: Reed, Alexander Walker was showing out to night Jane Daniels.

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Speaker 3: They played better than the two big guys. You can't have.

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Speaker 3: It's hard.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this impossible, but it's really hard if

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Speaker 2: and Man played, and your role players play that play

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Speaker 2: that good because they played sensational. Like I said, you

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Speaker 2: got you got sixty four points from your from your bitch.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many boys that is sixty four

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Speaker 4: Damn man, theyig.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be kicking themselves, don't you know, because this is

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Speaker 2: the one that got away.

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Speaker 4: Hold On, hold on, what's the chances.

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Speaker 2: Statistically, they ain't got a hell billy heartbeat. That's the chance.

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Speaker 2: You got a better chance of winning the lottery in Miami.

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Speaker 2: If you fly to California, and if you go to

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Speaker 2: You got a better chance of hitting one of the

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Speaker 2: three then them coming back and winning three games against

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Speaker 2: that team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, God damn.

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Speaker 4: Hey Alexander, welcome boy.

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 4: He was sensation of the night. He was nice.

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Speaker 2: How many minutes did Jewish run to play in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter? I mean, my second best player. Now, I

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Speaker 2: didn't play him in the fourth quarter in the game too,

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Speaker 2: that's my second best player. I mean, imagine, don't show

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Speaker 2: your second best hitter, you subed him out in baseball,

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Speaker 2: you pinch it for him.

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Speaker 3: That's your second best hitter.

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Speaker 4: Hey, what what? Why was that?

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Speaker 3: It was awful?

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Speaker 4: Game out of reach at that point?

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Speaker 3: No, the game wasn't not of reach. He was awful.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get somebody, and that's gonna give me some production.

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Speaker 2: Julius Randol didn't play well. I'm not breaking news. I'm

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Speaker 2: not interrupting you. Normal we got a service announcement, but

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Speaker 2: we got a Megan alert. I'm not breaking news to anybody.

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Speaker 2: If you watch the game, he played terrible.

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Speaker 4: Hey, when do you ever make that move as a coach? Though,

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Speaker 4: just curious. You got you got your two big guns,

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Speaker 4: you got your two best players.

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Speaker 3: He's made it twice.

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Speaker 5: Hypothetically speaking, I'm gonna just go with Shaq and Kobe.

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Speaker 5: Kobobe's having a bad night and Shack is all having

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Speaker 5: an off night. Since when do you been to someone

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Speaker 5: using that for comparison to give get better context for me,

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Speaker 4: How do you binge the second?

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Speaker 2: First of all, ain't gonna go down shooting no seven shots.

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Speaker 2: That's not going to happen. Second of all, you getting

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Speaker 2: shot the ball. If they filed him, they file it

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Speaker 2: and he shoots thirty three throw attempts, but you find

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Speaker 3: Chris Finch has already made the decision.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a problem putting sending Julius Ass on

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Speaker 2: the bench come fourth quarter. He did it in Game two.

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Speaker 2: He played four minutes and he had as many turnovers

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Speaker 2: as points. He had seven shot attempts. He had five points,

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Speaker 2: five turnovers in a game of this magnitude. Yeah, yeah, listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious. I'm just curious where Hey like, I'm

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Speaker 2: just thinking about it.

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Speaker 5: Right, football turns me and TJ and who's just having

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Speaker 5: a bad game. Well, we don't take, you know, we

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Speaker 5: as a head coach Mark Lewis isn't taking who shout.

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Speaker 5: We find ways to get him the ball, to get

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, basketball to.

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Speaker 5: Me would be a little bit easier to do in

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Speaker 5: excuse me, you know, Okay, God damn if I'm finched, Okay,

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Speaker 5: Julius having a bad game, let's let's let's let's make

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Speaker 3: I can't make him have a better game if he

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Speaker 3: won't shoot the damn ball.

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Speaker 2: Ah, I give it. Prime example, you remember that playoff game?

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Speaker 2: How many balls did Ko drop before he caught the

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Speaker 2: game winner? You remember that game in San Francisco gainst

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Speaker 2: Green Bay and the Packers. The Packers see say, see

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Sam Snap going to you right right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: And obviously and hold on Okay, see playing that motherfucker

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Speaker 3: Well, how you gonna be facing the mbing when you

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Speaker 3: say the man can be facing the NBA.

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Speaker 4: We was talked a by Julius. We was talked about Julius.

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Speaker 2: Well, and man wasn't much better. Hey, but I'm saying

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Speaker 2: Julius is your second best player. I think Julius is

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Speaker 2: going to the All Star Game. He's been an All Star.

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Speaker 2: He's been since sat Outside of Games two and four

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Speaker 2: in the Western Conference Finals, Julius Randolds has been sensational.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a three time Allstar. Excuse me. We

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Speaker 2: he did the next round against a Golden State. We

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Speaker 2: saw what he did. He played really good game in

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Speaker 2: game one. He played sensational in game three, I mean

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Speaker 2: game four. Excuse me, A game of this magnitude where

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Speaker 2: your role players give you what they gave you. Your

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Speaker 2: big guys can't come up small. They just can't. You can't.

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Speaker 2: I got twenty two from Jay and Daniels, I got

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Speaker 2: twenty one from de Vincenzo. I got twenty three from

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Speaker 2: the So you mean to tell me. Of all the

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Speaker 2: guys that played, Julius Randalls scored the fuse points of

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Speaker 2: all the guys that played, and he played more minutes

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Speaker 2: Thannas he played the same amount of minutes. Uh as

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Speaker 2: de Vincenzo Alexander Walker played. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: Shannon played eight minutes and had more points than he

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Speaker 4: Hey, they got Alexander locked up. Huh, Alexander, here's the

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Speaker 4: role he comes off the bench.

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Speaker 2: I mean because if you put him in Mike Conley,

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Speaker 2: zero ports ain't gonna cut it.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: The only guys that's consistently playing are Jane Daniels. McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: That played really well against the Lakers. He played great

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Speaker 2: in the last series, that great game. I just need

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Speaker 2: my big guns to go off. Got to show up.

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Speaker 2: They got too.

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Speaker 3: This is my mean.

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Speaker 2: I guess they don't have big enough names to get

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Speaker 2: ab hype because I saw it. I saw what I

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Speaker 2: saw what he did against Yo Kitchen Mr last year.

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Speaker 2: I saw what he did against Katie and Booked. I

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Speaker 2: saw what he did against Luke and Lebron. I saw

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Speaker 2: what he did, even though Steph went out, Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 2: and Dramond, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: What's really going on?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to minimize it, but hey, so

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Speaker 2: Jordan's never faced great defensive Lebron has never faced great defenses,

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Speaker 2: Kobe's never faced great defenses. Lad Bird never pay faced

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Speaker 2: great defenses. All the great all the greats have, all

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Speaker 2: the greats have.

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00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: That's what makes him great. Hell if everybody went against

438
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: the Washington generals, Hell, how do we know who's great?

439
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 4: But you're saying the series is over.

440
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: In the words of Lucid Van Joss, it's over. Now,

441
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: it's over. They know it, they know it. Hey, three

442
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: one against that team.

443
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ye, I'm listen, I know.

444
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: I just I'm mad. I lost one hundred dollars. The joke, dang, hey,

445
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 4: that was It was a good ass game, though.

446
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 2: The chance said, when are we gonna give ad mad

447
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: that Jason Tatum treatment?

448
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: Oh whoa whoa?

449
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum is with the exception of this year, has

450
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: been in the conference finals down there his whole career.

451
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: Is there a time that Jason Tatum didn't make the

452
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: conference finals except this year?

453
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: With exception of this year, he's probably been to five

454
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: or six.

455
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: Well you see what remember his rookie year, they.

456
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 2: Was battling with Cleveland Cavaliers in the finals. He's probably

457
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: been the five Eastern Conference finals.

458
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 4: Well you see that team? Do you see that team?

459
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum surrounded by.

460
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: They wasn't always like that and he found a way

461
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: to get to the Eastern Conference Finals and they got out.

462
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: You remember they got to the Eastern Conference Finals and

463
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 2: they didn't have a persingers when they lost to the

464
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: Golden State.

465
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't have holiday.

466
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: They had they had brother Brown. Yeah, brother, they had

467
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 4: brother Tatum.

468
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they was in the finals.

469
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they lost to Lebron them remember Lebron in

470
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: Game seven? Lebron had that historic game.

471
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

472
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: But your two best players, whether you say Julius Randall

473
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: is the ant man or the equivalent of Tatum and Brown.

474
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: The problem that I have is that I can't deal

475
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: with seven and thirteen shots between the.

476
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: Two of them. I can't.

477
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 4: I can't.

478
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: I can't deal with twenty shots between the two guys.

479
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: When Shade got for thirty by himself, Jaylen Williams got

480
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 2: twenty four chat Holgeren had fourteen.

481
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: Stop turning the ball over you limited you know.

482
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 4: Hey, thank god, damn sha man. That boy got a

483
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 4: toolbox on him.

484
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: Boy, I mean, oh yeah, that's matches. You can't stop it.

485
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: Got a tool j Williams had his best game of

486
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: the series. He dropped a cool thirty four like it

487
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: like it ain't nothing.

488
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: Chat play great, have a big time block. I'm not saying.

489
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: Minnesota would have won the series, but at least don't

490
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: you be the reason why Blake couldn't say a man

491
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: look at that man gave thirty at night, gave him

492
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: thirty five a night.

493
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: You got to be the reason. You got to be

494
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 4: the reason why your team always have.

495
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: A chance always.

496
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: But the sixty eight win OKC thunder one went away,

497
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: advancing to the first finals since twenty twelve when they

498
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 2: had the KD Russ, Russ, Harden, Harden Inserge Obaca and

499
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: my colleague big perk so OKC one twenty eight. Minnesota

500
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: won twenty six. They got forty points from Shay Gilgers.

501
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 2: He's one rebound short of a triple double. Jaylen Williams

502
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: gave him thirty four. Chet Honkin gave him twenty one,

503
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: and Caruso gave him thirty three big points off the bench.

504
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: They played really well and.

505
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: They'll one went away from advancing to the Western excuse me,

506
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals.

507
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 3: They're in the Western Conference Final now, Pop Freido. Joe Tyrese.

508
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: Halliburton's father John will be allowed to attend Pacers home game,

509
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: but he will not be court side. He will be

510
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: in a suite. Beginning Tuesday, Game four against the Knicks.

511
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: John Halliburton missed eight games following his confrontation with Joannis

512
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: on April twenty nine.

513
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: You see what they got superstitious.

514
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: So Joe, Yeah, I guarantee you if they had won

515
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: Game three, they wouldn't let him, They wouldn't.

516
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: Freedi.

517
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: No, you might as well.

518
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: You learn, You learn your lessons, especially something like you

519
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 5: want to you want to be there for those moments.

520
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 4: You want to be there for those moments.

521
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 5: I'm sure ha Leburton obviously has something to do with

522
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: it as well, the fact that he can't sit courtside.

523
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: It's not gonna feel the same. It's different being in

524
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 4: them sweets.

525
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: I don't I don't, I don't.

526
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 5: I don't frequent basketball games.

527
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: But if I'm I got to be on the wood.

528
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 5: I got the wood so I can experience it and

529
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 5: and and get the that authentic feel of it.

530
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

531
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably a lot easier to see uh

532
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: in an arena, see.

533
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: The sweets, especially if you know where your sweet's located.

534
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: Uh, because I you know what I I than Baltimore

535
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: had a sweet and I was in Baltimore, and I

536
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: can look up there and see my kids and see

537
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: my mom and my sister and stuff.

538
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: My homeboys that would come.

539
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: But it's different, you know, It's different than my homeboys

540
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: being on the sideline. And you know, I can come

541
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: out the field and dap them up when I do

542
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: something good and so forth.

543
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: It's all they could dap. You know. Yeah, it was.

544
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: But I'm glad. I'm glad, Like I said, I think.

545
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: Look, look, he got caught up in the emotion of it, though, Joe,

546
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: He's just so excited for his son. It's just something

547
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: between Milwaukee and Indiana that brings out the best in Indiana,

548
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: brings out the best in tire Reeces. And his dad

549
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: got caught up in it, made a mistake and he's back, hopefully, hopefully,

550
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: hopefully it pays off. But like you said, it's not

551
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: being in a suite and being courtzized an entirely two

552
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: different things, being in a suite or being on the

553
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: stands and being on the field.

554
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: There's a reason why before the game all them clebs

555
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: on the field. It's the field.

556
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different, but uh, congratulations John Halliburton. You're back

557
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: in the building, not where you normally would be. But

558
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: hey it's a start. Baby steps, baby steps, so your

559
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: baby steps. The Milwaukee Bucks are reportedly hoping that the

560
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: presidence of Doc Rivers will make Jiannis utter to Kunpo

561
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: more likely to stay in Milwaukee. Per Mark Stein's the

562
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: Bucks are hoping that the presidence of Doc as a

563
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: coach can provide some sort of boost, and the Kompoy

564
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: and Rivers are believed to have a strong working relationship.

565
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: You know he's not staying. I mean what would be doing?

566
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: So he had a terrible So Jason Kidds gone, Mike

567
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: Bodenholder is gone.

568
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 3: Who won?

569
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: He was there when he got them two MVP's and

570
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: they got a finals MVP that won a championship. Adrian

571
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: Griffin was fired after going forty what forty one and

572
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: thirteen dot Doc. So I'm just trying to figure out

573
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: and I'm just trying to figure out how what am

574
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: I missing?

575
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: What? What? What? What? What is it? What is it

576
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: that they see that we don't listen?

577
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 5: The man doesn't want to be there, I'm not sure.

578
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what why they're obviously gonna I don't.

579
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: Know, Joe.

580
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if he doesn't want to be there,

581
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: or if he doesn't believe that they can win there.

582
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: He can win there.

583
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 5: You're not going to be able to There's nothing you're

584
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: gonna be able to do. Bringing in Doc Rivers isn't

585
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: gonna get you a chance at contention for a troupe.

586
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be able to get you any more

587
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: players because you can't sign anything and you want to

588
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: stay out of that second aprin bing go.

589
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: So that mean that goes without saying I don't know.

590
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 3: What I mean.

591
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: You traded Holiday because you traded the Holiday and gave

592
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: up draft picks to get Dame and Dames.

593
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: You know, Dame is out.

594
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: Dame is out.

595
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: I think maybe his decision making would be a little

596
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 5: different if Dame wasn't hurt.

597
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: No, you don't think so.

598
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: No, because they didn't get to these two conference finals

599
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: in the year that Dame was there. And there there

600
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: are sometimes that they played really good, but it's kind

601
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: of hard because you know, and you think Jannis needs

602
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: the ball to clear and and Dane likes to have

603
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: the ball to do what he does. Sometimes it looks good,

604
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: but more times than not, it's just like, eh, yeah.

605
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: He doesn't want to be there. I hate to regurgitate

606
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: it and say it again. I told you where Giannis

607
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 5: is going, I told you how that's gonna go.

608
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Well I'm not I'm not saying I don't I disagree

609
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: with you, But what I am saying, what are you

610
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: going to give up about? I just don't see a

611
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: scenario where you keep Bam and Tyler hero and still

612
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: be able to get Yanni's.

613
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: Funny thing about it is we never know the scenario.

614
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 5: That's up to the team, that's up to all the teams.

615
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: Let me say it like this, up to all the

616
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 5: teams involved.

617
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: You know, he's he.

618
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 5: Getting and answers where he liked to be, where he

619
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 5: likes to play, sublimately by answering questions on Twitter, I

620
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: mean the proof is in the pudding is right there.

621
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 5: I mean everyone's going to have these expert opinions on

622
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 5: where he should go.

623
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the Capital. But that's how you put tray

624
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: scenarios together. Okay, if you the Lakers, you know who

625
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: off limits. You know you're not getting Lebron and you're

626
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: not getting Luca. So now you start playing with pieces. Okay,

627
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: it's ar avail available, it's ruin available. You start playing

628
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: with pieces who could possibly be leave and who could

629
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: possibly be come.

630
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: Right.

631
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: So with that being said, that's the only way you

632
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: can put a tracer there. You're talking about you gotta

633
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: do hypotheticals, you know.

634
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: The uh.

635
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to see. I'm looking at the pieces

636
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: that would Miami have. They only got two pieces I

637
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: would want? Right, Why would Johnnys want to go to

638
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: the Miami and and Bam and Tyler Hero isn't there.

639
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: It's the same thing that happened with Carmelo when he

640
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: went to the Knicks. Nobody there, you got them?

641
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, where you think about it, Where the hell's where

642
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 5: you go? Where the hell's where the hell else where

643
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 5: Janni's go right now? Where they're gonna have to give

644
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: up something for him to even get him? And still

645
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: not be right back in the same type of situation

646
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 5: you were in in Milwaukee.

647
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: I think the thing is, Oh Joe, you're gonna have

648
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: to get multiple teams involved, but you're gonna have to

649
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: satisfy five Milwaukee Milwaukee. Yanna think about it, Oh Joe,

650
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: you lost Kareem. How long before you got something to

651
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: replace Kareem? Your second best player in franchise history, Janni's

652
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: I think you're the second best because Kareem won three

653
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: titles with the two in you got there.

654
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: I will will't even three.

655
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you need to look up Kareem's stats because

656
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: everybody that think Kareem was a bum, y'all need to

657
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: look at Kareem before he got old, because like in

658
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: the eighties, he still won finals MVP at like thirty seven,

659
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: thirty eight years of age. But you got to go

660
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: back and look at him when he from his from

661
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: his rookie year until he was about thirty. Go check

662
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: him out, Go check out his stats, and let me

663
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: know what you think. With that being said, Uh, Louise

664
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Joannis a superstar. See that's what that for the longest time,

665
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: that's what really hurt okay, see because see Kevin Durant

666
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: was a free agent and he left. Imagine what you

667
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: could have got for Kevin Durant if you did a

668
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: sign in trade. So now you and if absolute prime,

669
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: well hell before his prime.

670
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: But now so now you get a guy.

671
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna get draft picks out the galore

672
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: and a couple of solid players. That's what you would

673
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: have gotten. But he left. You got nothing but walk

674
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: out the door. Same thing with God to State, he

675
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: walked out the door. So when I think about teams

676
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: with draft capital, mm hmm, Brooklyn got draft capital, Houston

677
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: got draft capital and players because you got Shongoon. I'm

678
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: not getting rid of arm and Thompson. Armen Thompson is

679
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. So you got capital. Uh, you got

680
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 2: Jabari Smith Junior, you got Eason. So they got capital

681
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: and they got draft picks. See that's the thing, Oh Joe,

682
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: there's only a handful of teams that have the draft

683
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: capitol and maybe some of the players to satisfy.

684
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 4: What about Okay, see Joannis case.

685
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't like that match up with Shae. Do they

686
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: have the draft capitol? Absolutely, yes, they have the draft capitol.

687
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Go get a Kevin theur Reant I mean if somebody

688
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: else is available, they got the draft call. Yes, they're

689
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: absolutely Look at the players they got. I don't for me,

690
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: I don't think they I don't think they're breaking up

691
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: their nucleus Shae Jalen Williams and home Ren. I'm not

692
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: breaking that up. There's a reason why Presty deliberately chose

693
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: check Holgren because they had an opportunity at Jabari Smith

694
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: Junior and because Paulo bank Caro was gone. He was

695
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: off the board, so you didn't have no shot in him. Nice.

696
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, y young fella, young fellow like that. Yes, absolutely,

697
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: the thunder half the pieces. They got seven eight first

698
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: round picks, seven eight second round picks. They got two

699
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: pickswaps still coming from the Clippers. Oh, they got the capitol.

700
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: Houston got the capitol. Brooklyn has the capitol. Because I

701
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: just don't want draft picks. I want some I want

702
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: players that can come in and play and contribute and.

703
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 3: Can help me right now now. Yeah.

704
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: So, uh, it's gonna be very interesting to see what

705
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: Yianni's Maybe they try to convince him one more year,

706
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: but Janni's like one more year. That's a year older

707
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: I'm not closer. I mean, when you look at it,

708
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: Janni's by himself. They're not beaten. They're not beating the Knicks,

709
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: they're not beating the Calves, they're not beating Indiana. Now

710
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: they might give Boston run with our tatum next year,

711
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: but they still okay. At best case scenario, they're the

712
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: fourth best team. I'm not so sure that the fourth

713
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: best team if ban Caro and Franz Wagner stay healthy

714
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: with that year where they get Sugs back, with that

715
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: with Black.

716
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: And and and and and uh Cole Anthony, with some

717
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: of the pieces that they have, are we sure?

718
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: Are we sure? Milwaukee is no better than a fourth

719
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: or fifth seed. I ain't coming back one more year

720
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: to be a fourth or fifty.

721
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 5: But that's that's that's what it would probably be, y'alln

722
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 5: just can do this so much.

723
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, you can only do so much.

724
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 3: When anybody says, what, but how do you improve this team?

725
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 2: People say, oh, Joe, Ain't nobody say yeah, whoa man,

726
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this max deal from Milwaukee. I gotta

727
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: I get an opportunity to get a max deal from LA.

728
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: I get a max dealer from Chicago. I get a

729
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: max deal. I'm going to Milwaukee. Right, you're not.

730
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: You're not. There's nothing to do.

731
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: It's coldsh clothes at eleven?

732
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 3: Okay? Ten? When am I gonna go get some need

733
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: after the game.

734
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 4: It can't be that bad.

735
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: Kids ain't playing, kids ain't playing outside after September.

736
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: Can't be that bad.

737
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: In Milwaukee.

738
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying it can't be that bad bad.

739
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: As far as far as what I mean, I've never

740
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: been there. I've never experienced what it's like to live there.

741
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: It's in Wisconsin.

742
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: So what you think the weather is like from Wisconsin October, November, December, January, February, March, April.

743
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: So what do you think the weather's like? You played

744
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: in Green Bay?

745
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so what you think the weather like in October, November, December, January, February, March.

746
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: But guess what think about some of the teams you

747
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: just named too?

748
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 3: Hell?

749
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: All them them same months? In Chicago. It's cold them

750
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 4: same months? Is just naming this?

751
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: In Chicago, it's just open.

752
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: I can still go get a meal at ten o'clock

753
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: at night. We'll see, we shall see. Austin Reeve's agent

754
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: issues a Warner. The mid trade rumors next year is

755
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: going to be a show. People really have no idea

756
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: what's to come. Keep putting him in trade rumors for

757
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: a second string center?

758
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: Whoa who did you take a shot?

759
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: Sat uh? Whoever? Keep leaking his name talking about part

760
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: of trade.

761
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 4: They're trading for a center, But he said second string?

762
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 4: Who's the second string center?

763
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: They taking a shot at somebodybody, anybody that's not Yo

764
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: kick Joel and Bead those are really the only centers.

765
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, Austin Reeves is nice too. He go anywhere

766
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 4: right now, and yes, getting work, getting buckets.

767
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Bro, you gonna opt at Bro, You're gonna

768
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: opt at your contract. The Lakers can only play you

769
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: so much. You're gonna go somewhere and get a big

770
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: payday anyway. You ain't trying to stay with the Lakers

771
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: when you can get a two hundred million dollar deal

772
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: and they can't give you that.

773
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: I know.

774
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: Sure.

775
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: Austin is very grateful, very thankful. The Lakers believed in him,

776
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: gave him a tryout. He went to the G League.

777
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: He played really well. He him and Lebron. Lebron saw

778
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: something in him early took him under his wings and

779
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: he's flourished. That's not kid our sales. That's not kid

780
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: our sales. To make a paydayfindn't get a couple on

781
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: a million dollars.

782
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 4: Or as man's value out the in La.

783
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: No, he's not. He knows, he knows his back. That's why.

784
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: That's why they just said what he's saying, because then

785
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: he hopped out his contract.

786
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: Go get some money, young fella.

787
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: Because see the.

788
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: Thing is like what they try to do o yoe.

789
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: If you signed with your team, they can give you

790
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 2: that fifth year you leave, they can only give you four. Yeah,

791
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: so there's like, okay, we can add an extra year.

792
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: That's an extra fifty. You get nicked, Hey, you're not

793
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: playing your best, you're still a opt in.

794
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: You got fifty coming, right. He knows that he knows back.

795
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: Based on what he's done over the last three years

796
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: and you've seen his point since the rebound total go up,

797
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: he's been a valuable option. I mean, we saw him

798
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: with he with no Luca in the lineup here and

799
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: Lebron with no Luca and Lebron the lineup, what he

800
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: did against Indiana. We've seen him go out for forty

801
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: We've seen him go get Yeah, he's improved every single year.

802
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 3: He's a hell of a player. But those three guys

803
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: are not gonna win anything. Now.

804
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you got a packaging, but they

805
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: need a big and and he's the only he's the

806
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: only valuable piece that they have that they're willing to

807
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: part with. They not trade Luca. You can't trade Lebron

808
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: because Lebron is one of the two players that have

809
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: a no trade. He and Bradley Bill. Everybody else, nobody

810
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: else in the NBA other than Lebron, James and Bradley

811
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: Beal has a no trade.

812
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 5: I mean you say, you also say they need a

813
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 5: big Now Giannis is off the table on LA too,

814
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: because you don't have Yeah.

815
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I mean he mentioned La, but

816
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: I think he's talking about more Clippers than than Lakers.

817
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: Ooh, hey, Harden.

818
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: Kawhi, and what you're gonna give up because your picks,

819
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: your peaks belong to Oka.

820
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: See See that's right, that's right, that's right. As for

821
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: him back and then guess what we got pick swaps?

822
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: So guess what if some for some for god unforeseen reason,

823
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: you're higher than we are. Hey, let's let's wap that thing.

824
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Oh Joe, hey, you get

825
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: a nice burger. You get a good smash double smash

826
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: burger with cheese, and I got a blowna sandwich. You

827
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: know what I want to swap lunches today. It's my

828
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: time to swap. Okay, now you got in the blogna sandwich.

829
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: I got the double cheese smash burger.

830
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: See h.

831
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: But sit yan and yan is like y is gonna

832
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 4: be Uh it's hard, Ojo.

833
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: It's hard because I thought.

834
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: About with the Mexicans.

835
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: Hey, you you putting yourself right back in the same

836
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 5: goddamn predicament outside of it being a better goddamn city.

837
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 4: And being able to get some need after eleven o'clock.

838
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: That's it.

839
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: But see, that's the thing though. That's the thing, Ojo,

840
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: is that Austin Reeves understands his value. He knows he's

841
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: gonna be a commodity because he's proven he's a starter

842
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: in this league.

843
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: He's not a role player.

844
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: I mean he's a role player, but he's a starting

845
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: role player.

846
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

847
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: He can handle the ball, he can create his own shot,

848
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: he can he can facilitate it off. He can run

849
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: an offense. Yeah he's Yeah, he's a liability on defense,

850
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: but guy, he ain't nobody playing no defense anymore. Just

851
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: don't let him beat you on the first dribble? Can

852
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: you can you guard him for two dribbles? It the

853
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: help's gonna come. So with that being said, there's only

854
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: a handful of teams that have the capitol to go

855
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: to go get a yach because you gotta think about it. Oho,

856
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: look at what I'm giving up. I'm giving up a Yannis,

857
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm giving up a KD. I need something valuable in return.

858
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: Now KT's a little different, Katie's a little older, so

859
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: he's not gonna command. Phoenix is not gonna get maybe

860
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: what they think they're gonna get. Yeah, because there's a difference.

861
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: I think Giannis is thirty KD is about to be

862
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: thirty seven. And injury history. Remember he got nicked again

863
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: at the end of the year. He missed the last

864
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: couple of games. When he got there, messed up his knees.

865
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: So he has a history of being injured. So you're

866
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: not going to get what you because of aging his

867
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: injury history. He's still a phenomenal player. Very Wow, someone

868
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: made check this out on Joe.

869
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't.

870
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: I can't even pronounce this guy's name. He said.

871
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: Zion Williamson is entering year seven with with zero playoff

872
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: minutes logged.

873
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 3: I just got sick.

874
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 4: I mean, Zion Williamson going to the Pelicans, understanding his

875
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 4: injury history, the fact that he hasn't been able to play,

876
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: he has games even make the playoffs.

877
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: He didn't have a team surrounding him or or have

878
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 5: the help to make the playoffs.

879
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he made the playoffs, but he was hurt.

880
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: He couldn't play. Yeah, they made the playoffs.

881
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: Thinking about it, he had he had his second year,

882
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: he had Valan Schooners, he had a CJ.

883
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: McCullum.

884
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: That was his second year, right, I don't know what

885
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: year it was, but I'm saying he's they They've made

886
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

887
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: Zion just hadn't been able to play.

888
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 5: I think I think he he needed new change of seniory.

889
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: He needed to change the senior y.

890
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: You need to change the eatery, changing who eatery. What's

891
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: important to him? Everybody wants something more than Zion wanted

892
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: for himself. Think about what he denied himself, probably going

893
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: out partying, doing all those other things that kids his

894
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: age did because he wanted to be a basketball player,

895
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: and he wanted to go to college, and in college,

896
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: he wanted to go to the NBA. So think about

897
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: what you've denied yourself to get to where you got to.

898
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, now granted, when you young,

899
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: O Joe, you're rubbing down the court. Oh, your weight

900
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: just fall off you. Yeah, I mean I can lose.

901
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: I can lose easy, Hell I lose. I swear I

902
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: have seven eight pounds at a practice. Once lost thirteen

903
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: pounds of a practice. You young, you can do that.

904
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: As you start to get older, you see a lot

905
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: of you see a lot of young fat people.

906
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of old fat people, O Jo.

907
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: Because the heart's only so big, it's only meant to

908
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: pump the side that you're supposed to be. You start

909
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: getting full, you start getting three and four hundred pounds

910
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: when you meant to be two hunder a two fifty

911
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: passing the body. Yeah, that's why you can't put a

912
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: volkswaggon engine and an eighteen wheeler.

913
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: It's not meant to pull that.

914
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: You earn it out. What's important is Zion. How bad

915
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: does aon want to be it?

916
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: Do it? Get it?

917
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: Getting in is easy, that's the easy part. It gets

918
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: hard to get out and get back in. Zion is

919
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: a phenomenal talent. When never you never gonna hear me

920
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: say anything about the guy's talent. He can do it.

921
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: We can do it. We've seen him. He can score

922
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: twenty five in the game. He's gonna get to double.

923
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: He's not the best rebounder. I mean, I thought he

924
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: would be a better rebounder than what he was because

925
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 2: he's explosive as Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley is the smallest

926
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: guy to ever lead the league in rebounding. Charles Barkley

927
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: six four, Zion six four, and I believe it is

928
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: more explosive. But rebounding is all about want to. That's

929
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: why Dennis Robin did it so well. Dennis Robin wanted

930
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: the ball more than anybody else. But it's got to

931
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: be he's got to adopt. Say you know what, man,

932
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: I'm tired of this issue. Man, Let me give myself,

933
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: let me get myself together, let me get myself together.

934
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: Let me I'm gonna get me a chef, and I

935
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: want you to hold me accountable. I'm not saying he

936
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: can't ever eat something bad, but you have to like

937
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: weigh the options. Let's just say, for the sake of argument,

938
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: on JO, there's seven there's seven days in a week.

939
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: We know there's seven days in a week. And let's

940
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: just say he's gonna eat twenty eight meals that week,

941
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 2: twenty eight to thirty. When you talk about breakfast, lunch, dinner, snatch,

942
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: things like that, twenty eight meals. Of those twenty eight meals,

943
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: twenty five of them need to be nutritious, healthy, packed

944
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: with protein, complex carbohydrates.

945
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 5: Thanks what happens if the team he has around them,

946
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 5: the people that he asks arounding them? What if he

947
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 5: is eating healthy? What if he is eating nutritious and

948
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 5: he just can't seem to keep the weight off because

949
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 5: maybe he's just supposed to be.

950
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: Worked like that? Do you know how hard it is chicken?

951
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: For somebody that's had a healthy lifestyle pretty much for

952
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: thirty two years nineteen ninety three, I made a decision,

953
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a healthy lifestyle. Do you know how

954
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: hard it is to eat two thousand, three thousand, four thousand,

955
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: calories if you're eating healthy, Okay, it ain't nothing to

956
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: eat that.

957
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: Kind of calories. Hell, I get you a burger that

958
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 3: got two thousand calories in it.

959
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: But to eat chicken, to eat rice, to eat fish,

960
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 2: to eat to eat broccoli, to be eat vegetables. People

961
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: don't understand how hard it is to eat that many

962
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: calories when the food is nutritiously dent. Now, if you

963
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: eat some bull dye hawks tails and pork chops and

964
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: add two faid and boot ad and jumbo line and

965
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: go gumbo, ain't nothing. You'll blow through two thousand and

966
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: three thousand calories and a meal. It's hard to out

967
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: exercise a bad diet. It's hard, and the older you get,

968
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: the harder it is. I'm not telling you something, chat,

969
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you something somebody told me. I'm telling

970
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: you what I know, because once upon a time, I

971
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: know I might not look like it now the way

972
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 2: I walk and move around. I wasn't a lead athlete

973
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: at one pointant time.

974
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 5: I always I always argue with people too about that,

975
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 5: about that.

976
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: That's saying you can't you can't outwork a bad diet.

977
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

978
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 4: But I mean I think because my frame is is

979
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 4: so small.

980
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you didn't work out, Joe, you realize

981
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: that if you didn't live ways to work out like

982
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: you do, how small you would be.

983
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 4: I get skinny.

984
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: I look, absolutely you would.

985
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 5: I look sick man's when I on lift and it

986
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 5: looks weird like something.

987
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

988
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: And so that's that's the thing. I mean, some people,

989
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: there are some people like that, some people like that

990
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 2: to have that frame ojo that don't matter what they do,

991
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: they're gonna be thin. And then there's some people. You

992
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: look had a burger, that's three pounds you gained. You

993
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: should have looked at me. But I just think that's

994
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: the thing that that Zion needs to do. He just

995
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: got to make it up in his mind set. You

996
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna get in shape. I'm gonna stay

997
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: in shape because I mean, before you know it, it's.

998
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: Gonna be year ten.

999
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: Ten.

1000
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1001
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 5: You know what's funny is I remember the hype. It

1002
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 5: was really that hype because he was that boy. He

1003
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 5: was supposed to be the next face of the NBA.

1004
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 4: He was supposed to be Labarn.

1005
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 5: They were trying to from what it seemed from media

1006
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 5: coverage and what everybody was saying he was the next

1007
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: great thing that was supposed to Yeah, bron was done

1008
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 5: played and it just it never panned out that way

1009
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 5: obviously because of injuries. And I'd assume you know, his

1010
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 5: inability to keep the weight off and be on the

1011
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 5: court and be available.

1012
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, dude, Oh but he's on the court though.

1013
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh we did the embassy alto.

1014
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: That's the thing that's frustrating because you see what he

1015
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: when you can see what he can be, you see

1016
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: what he's capable love because he's shown it to you.

1017
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you can never

1018
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: want something for someone else more than they wanted for themselves.

1019
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: He's been seven years already, it's.

1020
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 3: About to be seven years, next year be seven years.

1021
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 4: This shit going by fast, it does.

1022
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: Think about Oh Joe, think about it when you came

1023
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 2: into the league and next thing you know, you looked

1024
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: up he was in your ten.

1025
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it went fast.

1026
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 2: As about time to go. It's time for somebody else

1027
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: to aid you. Once you get to year ten, you

1028
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: take it year to year. It ain't no more. I

1029
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: got me five more?

1030
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 4: Nah, hell nah, absolutely not.

1031
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: No.

1032
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 4: You know, benness comes into play at that point.

1033
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely once you get to year ten, who how should

1034
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: I help on and get me another one?

1035
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: Oh? I stolen over with O Joe got me twelve

1036
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 3: of the things.

1037
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, I think, uhh, And I think that's

1038
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: what's important for Zion because there's no denying this talent.

1039
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: There's no denying this talent. He get that ball A

1040
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: he jumped so quick, so effortlessly. But that's a lot

1041
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: of pounding. That's a large man that's up and down,

1042
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: up and down, up and down. Same thing with embiid

1043
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: big man, and you're asking big men to do that

1044
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: over and over and over eighty two times a year.

1045
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: Nobody's really gonna play, but Michel Bridge is gonna play

1046
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 2: eighty two games. Maybe a handful of players playing eighty

1047
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: two games. So you're asking Joel and b that if

1048
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: he can give us seventy somewhere, give us sixty sixty seventy.

1049
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: Can you do that, Zion, can you give us sixty

1050
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: sixty seventy because that's what it's gonna take, the team's

1051
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: best player. It's hard, it's hard to advance when your

1052
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: best players not there is their best player and now

1053
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: they've traded be Oz because not be Oza in Toronto,

1054
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: he was dealing with I think he was dealing with

1055
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: a blood clock. Right, what did a be I have

1056
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: in Toronto? Because he got traded?

1057
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 5: How many how many other teams could Zion go to?

1058
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 5: You could probably go everywhere and still be the best

1059
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: player outside of okay seeing the Lakers?

1060
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 3: Uh no, yeah, well he ain't gonna be Here's the thing.

1061
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: Could where could he go?

1062
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: Or where could somebody's gonna that need him and have

1063
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: the capital to give up?

1064
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 3: Look, he always wanted to go. I still believe this.

1065
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: I believe he would have preferred to be the third

1066
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: pick and be in New York, to be the number

1067
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: one pick and be in New Orleans.

1068
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 4: Can you imagine Zion and New York?

1069
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? I can. I can.

1070
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 5: Hey, at his side, Zion would be the he was.

1071
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 5: He's too short to be the he can play he

1072
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 5: can play the four. He's a three though, right who Zion?

1073
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he can be he can play the three

1074
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 2: out of four because he's so powerful.

1075
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. But he on the side though, Yeah, but.

1076
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: I got to punish you, Like I said, if you

1077
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: punish me on one end, I gotta punish you on

1078
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: the other.

1079
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: And that's sucking man, that s man.

1080
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: He's a he's a quick jumper, quick verry athletic, very explosive.

1081
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 4: To be that size.

1082
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 5: The funny thing about it is probably everyone else he's

1083
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 5: a little bit more twitty than everybody else.

1084
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he twitchy as if he's as if he's small.

1085
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: He's he's a more explosive Charles Barkley. Look at the

1086
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: way Barkley was built, and look at the way Zion

1087
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: is Bill and char That would been the first thing

1088
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: I would have done. I would have got with Charles

1089
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: Barkley and said, Charles, how'd you do it? How'd you

1090
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: get the way?

1091
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: He said?

1092
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: Moses because he had a veteran mos Malone said hey, Charles,

1093
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: he said, you fat and you lazy. That's a hell

1094
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: of a combination. You could be one of the other

1095
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: old Joe, it be both. No, you can't bet those

1096
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 2: two right, And that's what I tell you. Guys said,

1097
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: look you in football, you could be old and fast

1098
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: or young and slow, but you can't be two together.

1099
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: You can't be old and slow.

1100
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be over there on the sideline, No, you'll.

1101
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: Be out to leave oldie slow gets you out to

1102
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: league old and fans to keep you on the sideline.

1103
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

1104
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: But I just I just hope he gets it figured out.

1105
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 2: I just hope to figure he gets it figured out,

1106
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: because man, he is so immensely talented, and you just

1107
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: want to see the best, especially the guy that you

1108
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: see and you know they got it in the Moho.

1109
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: You know they talented you, you've seen it. It's not man, man,

1110
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, but a no, we've seen what he's healthy.

1111
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: He's an All Starnox office.

1112
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: But it is what it is, thought Joe.

1113
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: That's that's his career, that's his future, and he has

1114
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: to he's gonna he gets to determine it.

1115
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: Jared's Triple J. Jared Jackson Jr.

1116
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: Was one selection away from the biggest bag in NBA

1117
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: history twenty two points a game, All Star, All Defense,

1118
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: still not enough to crack the all the NBA Triple

1119
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: J showlder numbers where they too many big names, too

1120
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 2: few spots, and just like that, just like that, Triple

1121
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: J misses out on a super Max contract three hundred

1122
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: and fifty million what he could assigned for one hundred

1123
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: and fifty million instead two hundred million dollars.

1124
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: Abrica Dapple vanished. I'm going to the board.

1125
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not about what you did, it's about how

1126
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: crowded the room was.

1127
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 4: That's not fair.

1128
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: That's where you ride the merry go round, get candid apples,

1129
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: cotton candy, and you know sometimes you can see a pig,

1130
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: the betty lady and the tenders at the fair.

1131
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 4: Hey, you know that's not fair.

1132
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: You get what you get, what you earned, not what

1133
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: you deserve. So let me ask you a question. Who

1134
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: you taking off the All NBA selection teams? Who you

1135
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: taking off and putting them on there for.

1136
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: Not?

1137
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 5: No, h it ain't ain't nobody to take off because

1138
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: they only for a goddamn reason.

1139
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: And that's and that's what I tell when people say, man,

1140
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: he should have gone to the Pro Bowl?

1141
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: Who are you taking off? He should have been an

1142
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: all stark? Who take it off?

1143
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1144
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 5: But the fact that if you've made it, if you

1145
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 5: were able to make it, and the difference in money

1146
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 5: you get when you do.

1147
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been there. I've been.

1148
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: I've been to the situations though show that the Pro Bowl.

1149
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: I have more catches, more yards, and more touchdown And

1150
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: somebody went to the Pro Bowl in front of me.

1151
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: And my team went to the playoffs.

1152
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: When that happened, I guarantee you on the back end.

1153
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I can tell you that. Yeah, yeah,

1154
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 3: I know that.

1155
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1156
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: Yep, damn yeah.

1157
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: Have more catches yards than touchdowns. A couple of times

1158
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: I was second in yards, catches and touchdown.

1159
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: Hold on man, So you didn't make the NBA.

1160
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: You need to be You need to make one of

1161
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: the three all the NBA teams first thing of the thirdeen.

1162
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: Or be an MVP. That'll definitely help.

1163
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: Two hundred men down the drain, two hundred dollars get

1164
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: like that. See shake MVP. No, Now, if you're the MVP,

1165
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna be all NBA. He can sign

1166
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: a four year two ninety four or five three eighty.

1167
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 4: Which one are you taking?

1168
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: Four for two ninety four? And she is only what

1169
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: twenty six? We finned him cross the head again? Yes,

1170
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: Jesus crazy yep mm hmm. So guess what when he's

1171
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: able to come up again, it'll probably be four thirty.

1172
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 5: Max contracts now regard any regardless of being older.

1173
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll still be able to get that.

1174
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: You'll still be able before now once you get to

1175
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: like thirty six o cho Yeah, I think I don't

1176
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: think you can do more than a two year deal, right, okay, okay,

1177
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: because they didn't want to play. You know, the adn't

1178
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: want because you know, old player be forty years old. Hey,

1179
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: I want five years? No damn, where you ain't gonna

1180
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: be playing you're forty five, but you everybody gonna come

1181
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: in and then, like, I think that's what it is.

1182
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: Right after you get to a certain age in the NBA,

1183
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: you can only sign two year, two year deals.

1184
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 3: Because I think that's what happened to Lebron.

1185
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 5: Oh I thought he was choosing and purposely choosing to

1186
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 5: sign two years on purpose.

1187
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 4: No, No, that's crazy.

1188
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 3: He's signed two years, but it's one plus an option.

1189
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1190
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's over thirty eight, okay, so.

1191
01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 3: Thirty eight older.

1192
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: So oretically, Shay might get two got back, got three

1193
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: of these because he'll go from thirty twenty six to

1194
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: thirty right, thirty to thirty.

1195
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 4: Four and do another one on the back end of

1196
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: two years.

1197
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: He might he might do a billion dollars in contracts.

1198
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, it's funny. He's worth every goddamn dying.

1199
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, it's really that's thing you can argue

1200
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 5: about when it comes to him.

1201
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: You know, I love I love I love everything about

1202
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: the young man. I love the way he cares himself.

1203
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: I love how hard he plays. I love the grind

1204
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: that he's put in, the work that he's put in.

1205
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: And to see there's nothing better than seeing a plan

1206
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 2: come together when you work extremely hard for something that

1207
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: you see like, damn finally because all I want to do,

1208
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 2: all I wanted to do, come follolowch over to see

1209
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: what the summer had did?

1210
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: What I did in the summer? Did that is playoff?

1211
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1212
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: It did?

1213
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1214
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 5: What's funny when you when you put the work in,

1215
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 5: when you put hours in, no matter what you do

1216
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 5: in life, no matter what it is, you always work always,

1217
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 5: no matter what.

1218
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: Ain't nowhere around it on yoe and then and you

1219
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 3: never have to sit back.

1220
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: You never have to sit back now one well, not

1221
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: one time have I ever sought back about my NFL career,

1222
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: says man. If I had just done this, if I

1223
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: had ate better, if I had trained, if I had studied,

1224
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: ain't I had no regrets. I got everything out of

1225
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: my God given ability, everything, I squeezed it all over yo,

1226
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: you know I had orange juice and then I ate

1227
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: the pulp that you know, I used the zest, the

1228
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: orange zest, the cooking.

1229
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 3: So I got everything out of the orange. Was nothing left.

1230
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: Walk away with your head hell high, accomplished everything. Pro Bowls,

1231
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: all Pro Super Bowls, You and your you and your

1232
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: team's Ring of Fame. You one of the fifty greatest

1233
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: players that played for your team.

1234
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: What nothing?

1235
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: Where you get asked on nothing?

1236
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: Nothing? Because all I it was an opportunity to play

1237
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Man, let me play in the NFL

1238
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: two three years. I could say I played a lot

1239
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: of people don't get an opportunity to say that, play that,

1240
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: and they played high school and played college. That was

1241
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: my goal, playing in the NFL. Hey get granted out

1242
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 2: of this? That was it, Ojoe. I mean, look, yeah,

1243
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: I wanted. I wanted too. I wanted three things really

1244
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 2: for me. That was tango I could put my hands on.

1245
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 2: I wanted to Rolex, I wanted Ferrari, and I wanted

1246
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: the house, the air conditioned, indoor plumbing and running water.

1247
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: I got that.

1248
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 4: I'm good. I like that.

1249
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: That's it.

1250
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: I like that.

1251
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 2: I ain't need the way I live now I never

1252
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: thought that was possible. A hey, even if I had

1253
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: just had me at want the window unis oh hoe,

1254
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: you know we're going to the window unir condition to

1255
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: the window.

1256
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 4: In the window. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

1257
01:03:58,760 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: And listen.

1258
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 5: And if you didn't had that, you had we had

1259
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 5: Ther's back in the day. You remember the fans, the

1260
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 5: portable portable you plug into the wall, the little square foul.

1261
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, an oscillating fans, yea box fans.

1262
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: Had one of them, yeah yeah, one of the other.

1263
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we had one that the blade would have

1264
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: broke off, so you had to put a block on

1265
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: it because it'd be dancing around.

1266
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1267
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we put a big old, big old blocks

1268
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: of fend the block on top of it. I stayed

1269
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: right there, kept you cool. Well, actually didn't keep it cool.

1270
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: I browing hot ass there because we ain't have no

1271
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 2: air condition. But that's all I wanted, don't Joe, You know,

1272
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: get my grandm out of that situation, and I could

1273
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 2: have indoor plumbing, running water and Eric in the house

1274
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: that was air condition.

1275
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: Boy, you couldn't tell Shanna Sharp nothing.

1276
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 4: I just my mind. I'm trying to think.

1277
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 5: I kind of you know, I've always lived a very

1278
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 5: very very simplistic lifestyle, always lived way below my means,

1279
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 5: my whole thing. Obviously, wanted to play in the NFL,

1280
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 5: wanted to make it really having no desires or understanding

1281
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 5: about you know, Super Bowls and all that stuff until

1282
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 5: I actually got there and the meaning and how much

1283
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 5: they meant, you know, to a lot of people that

1284
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 5: played the game. Yeah, well I was able to play

1285
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 5: and have fun and do it my way. And I

1286
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 5: always wanted to make sure my kids were good. Long Yeah,

1287
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 5: long the kids were good. Anything that they need, anything

1288
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 5: they want for that is taken care of, and everything else.

1289
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 4: It didn't matter

1290
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: The volume