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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to The Hammer's Territory podcast

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Speaker 1: is episode two four seven iryhost Brad rowand peppitts you

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday evening like a warm blanket, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Scott Coleman. Scott, the Braves are winning? Question Mark,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: Question Mark is the perfect way to start this episode

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Speaker 2: because it's been few and four between since the Braves

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Speaker 2: have taken four out of five and not just took

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Speaker 2: four out of five against the Marlins, but I mean

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Speaker 2: they whooped the Marlins butts this weekend. And obviously nobody

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Speaker 2: wants the Braves to be in the spoiler role these

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Speaker 2: final two months of the season, but they effectively ended

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Speaker 2: Miami season today, a team that was red hot coming

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Speaker 2: in and the Braves thumped them. And I know there's

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Speaker 2: probably pros and cons to winning baseball games right now,

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Speaker 2: but it still feels good, Man, like coming back to

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Speaker 2: win games or blowing out a division rival. It feels

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Speaker 2: good to win those games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were It take people behind the curtain, the

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Speaker 1: four of us, myself, Scott, Sean and Steven, which form

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Speaker 1: this podcast. If you're new to the podcast, welcome. We

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Speaker 1: have four hosts We were kind of joking about that

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Speaker 1: offline today, like during the game, like is it good?

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Speaker 1: Are we celebrating? How do we all feel about this?

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Speaker 1: And I get it. Look, we are fully aware that

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Speaker 1: there are arguments in which losing is better. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that there aren't, but I mean, you know, we

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Speaker 1: can get it too. If you want to Scott like,

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Speaker 1: how many wins would it have to be where you'd

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Speaker 1: be worried that they're winning too much for watery purposes?

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Speaker 2: If the Braves go like fifteen and four over their

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Speaker 2: next three weeks, we might be like, all right, guys,

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Speaker 2: calm down, you're not making the playoffs. Like everybody, everyone

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Speaker 2: take a breath, you know. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, it's very unlikely that Atlanta was going to

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Speaker 2: catch the White Sox for the best odds to get

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Speaker 2: the number one pick. And I mean the difference between

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Speaker 2: having maybe the second or third best odds and the

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Speaker 2: fourth and fifth best odds. Sure, all things equally, you

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Speaker 2: would rather be the team with the second best odds

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Speaker 2: of getting the number one pick in the lottery. But

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Speaker 2: it's not something to lose sleepover. We'll see, there's still

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Speaker 2: talent on this team. It's not like the twenty fifteen

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen Braves that were just totally void of talent

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Speaker 2: outside of like four or five players. There's still some

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Speaker 2: really good players on this roster. They're going to win

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Speaker 2: some games down the stretch. I think you just kind

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Speaker 2: of hope you find a happy balance of both winning

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Speaker 2: in the short term but also thinking long term and

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Speaker 2: getting yourself at least the best possible chance at getting

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Speaker 2: the best draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll do more of the numbers on the

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Speaker 1: lottery later, but the gaps are not that big as

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Speaker 1: far as like those slots, like you said, you mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: but just to put a number on it, they had

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Speaker 1: not won four out of five games, like they just

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Speaker 1: won four out of five against Miami. They had won

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Speaker 1: four out of five since June's seventeen through twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and which the season was kind of still alive then,

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Speaker 1: like we were still sweating games and kind of talking

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Speaker 1: about like one of the playoff odds and all that.

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Speaker 1: We were definitely still in that at that point in time.

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Speaker 1: I think they beat the Mets and maybe the Marlins

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Speaker 1: say this out loud, even with this stretch of wins,

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Speaker 1: the Braves are still twelve games out of the third

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Speaker 1: wild card spot with like one hundred teams in front

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Speaker 1: of them. So don't get don't get the ideas everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's it's still over. But it was still fun to win.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of those results, and I think

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Speaker 1: you and I actually briefly mentioned this and the last

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Speaker 1: the Marlins had been red hot, as you just said,

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Speaker 1: but the Braves are still after this weekend, six games

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Speaker 1: behind the Marlins, despite having a run differential that's forty

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Speaker 1: They just have had a season from help. We all

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, the Braves still have like the

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Speaker 2: come out of the locker room look and feel to them.

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Speaker 2: You know, like when you're watching high school football and

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Speaker 2: and the other team comes out and you go, Wow,

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Speaker 2: that teem's a lot bigger and better and look like

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Speaker 2: they're gonna win by thirty tonight, the Braves still have that.

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Speaker 2: They still have a lot of names on the back

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Speaker 2: of those jerseys, and as we've talked about on the

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Speaker 2: show for a while, they're legitimate reasons to still tune

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Speaker 2: in and reasons to hope that things turn a certain way,

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Speaker 2: so the Braves have more optimism. In twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Hirst Waldrop. Tonight, we were going

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Speaker 2: to talk about Joey Wentz, who's suddenly becoming like kind

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Speaker 2: of a thing for twenty twenty six. Perhaps, of course,

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Speaker 2: Jerks and Profar Michael Harris Auzzy Alby's there are reasons

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Speaker 2: and important key storylines here down the stretch, and sure,

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Speaker 2: if the Braves win, if the Braves lose, at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, it doesn't matter all that much.

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Speaker 2: But there's still again, as we said, there's too much

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Speaker 2: you know what, five and thirty eight down the stretch,

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Speaker 2: that's just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been accused of saying that everyone should sit,

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Speaker 1: and I get why we have fragrant kind of that way.

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Speaker 1: They do have to fill the roster out, like you

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Speaker 1: like you have to feel a team. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: you might. I don't think you was Drake Balwin and

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Speaker 1: We won't do that again today, but he had another

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Speaker 1: that we already have, and we'll cover more, I promise.

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Speaker 1: One note that's not a Braves note, but because it

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Speaker 1: that Jen Powell became the first female empire in a

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Speaker 1: cool story. Certainly, we wouldn't lead with it if if

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Speaker 1: It was a big deal. It was a Brave's related story.

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Speaker 1: It was in Atlanta. I don't have that much to

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Speaker 1: she did a press conference. He seems like a cool person,

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Speaker 2: It's actually cool, really cool story. I know on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: every time they showed Jen big smile on her face,

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Speaker 2: Really cool to break through. A funny moment that I

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Speaker 2: I mean, just a cool story. Good for her. I

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Speaker 2: she ran out on the field. Really cool moment, and

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Speaker 2: it was cool that the Braves got to be a

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm gonna get not much analysis to be had.

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Speaker 1: It was funny, but I know you're not. We're not.

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Speaker 1: cool thing. And the Braves were actually in the center

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Speaker 1: of the national discourse this weekend, by proxy, better than

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Speaker 1: all the Bristol funds. So anyway, that was a cool

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Speaker 1: my opinion. Maybe you disagree with me, but it was

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Speaker 1: doubleheader games on Saturday afternoon. I will raise my hand.

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Speaker 1: I was on a work thing this weekend and did

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Speaker 1: the numbers. He looks really good. Obviously the first round talent.

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Speaker 1: We all know that kind of a rocky start last

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Speaker 1: Vidoc and others about his like transformation and tweaks and

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Speaker 2: I think with Hirston Waldrop, really the most encouraging thing

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Speaker 2: which is something I think gorev talked about maybe a

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Speaker 2: But Hurston changed his leg kick and he's also started

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Speaker 2: you look at like the pitch data and pitch tracking,

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Speaker 2: the sinker is legitimately a pretty solid pitch for Hurston

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Speaker 2: And that's notable because we know how nasty that splitter is.

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Speaker 2: But the fastball was really hittable and that was really

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Speaker 2: Walter back these first couple of years as a professional.

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Speaker 2: So if Walterrip has a sinker then he can use

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Speaker 1: Saturday game one, other than Waldrip, the Profar catch was wild,

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Speaker 2: Really, I mean a hell of a catch from Profar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think Ronnie's throw is the defensive play

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Speaker 1: eighty five slugging percentage, so that's the All Star break ops.

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Speaker 1: Over one thousand, six home runs, six doubles in twenty

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Speaker 1: three games. That is a star level play. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you just started the season at Delsart, which you

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Speaker 1: in baseball for a while this year. That doesn't go away.

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Speaker 1: But if you start the season all he would be

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Speaker 1: an All Star. Like he's been playing like an All

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Speaker 1: Star for the last three and a half weeks, So

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Speaker 1: it'd be great if that was real. Probably somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the middle, let's be conservative and probably realistic. And say

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Speaker 1: he probably is not as bad as he was for

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Speaker 1: the first three months, and he is as goods he

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Speaker 1: is now, and we'll hope we'll see where that with

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Speaker 1: actual middle falls. Michael.

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Speaker 2: Yes, as we said, if Mike can run even a

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Speaker 2: seven fifty ops, he runs a seven to fifty ops

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Speaker 2: with that elite defense in his speed, he's going to

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Speaker 2: be a five war center fielder every year. That is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's easier said than done. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to pretend like a seven to fifty ops is you

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Speaker 2: roll out of bed and do it without you know,

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Speaker 2: blinking an eye. But yeah, that's it's really encouraging good

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Speaker 2: signs from Mike. Maybe take one or two more walks.

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Speaker 2: I think we would all really like to see that.

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Speaker 2: But if he keeps hitting the ball over the fence,

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Speaker 2: I don't really care what else he does.

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Speaker 1: Agreed. So Saturday's it was a doubleheader. First game was

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Speaker 1: back from a four to one deficit. They played well

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Speaker 1: much after at least I didn't think you should play

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Speaker 1: very much. He had quite a weekend now, facing his

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Speaker 1: old team in the Marlins. He had two of them

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Speaker 1: runs on Saturday. In one game he hit four home

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Speaker 1: runs and had six hits in four days. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he looks great. If they play all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: like he had the injury, he had a rough I

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Speaker 1: don't know, the stats for like three months were not

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Speaker 1: very good. It really was more like a six or

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Speaker 1: But maybe he's figuring out how to play around it. Regardless,

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Speaker 1: Ozanna had a heck of a weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Ozuna has killed the Marlins over the

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Speaker 2: past couple of years, and I mean coming back on

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Speaker 2: Saturday night was fun, you know, like there was life

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Speaker 2: in the ballpark. I fully understand the braves or twenty

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Speaker 2: games below, but it was just fun man to see

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Speaker 2: the crowd react the big comeback, the homer from Ozuna.

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Speaker 2: He's been read hot lately. We talked at length about

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Speaker 2: the frustrations of not being able to trade Ozuna and

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Speaker 2: Iglesias and go back and listen to that show. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I think we saw even in like the

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Speaker 2: ten days before the deadline, we started to see some

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Speaker 2: baseball like we have seen as no team had seven

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Speaker 2: million dollars sitting around to acquire him. But man, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he is having a stretch right now that would look

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Speaker 2: really good for a lot of contending teams. And you know,

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Speaker 2: there's that balance between playing Marcel, playing Murphy, playing Baldwin.

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Speaker 2: We will not have that conversation for the ninth time

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Speaker 2: this month on the pod. But as long as Baldwin

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Speaker 2: is not sitting too much, I'm fine with it. Rotate

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Speaker 2: the guys, keep them fresh. And you know, for Marcel,

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Speaker 2: he has literally millions of reasons to have a good

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Speaker 2: final two months as a pending free agent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and perhaps you know, him sitting a decent amount

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Speaker 1: might have been good for him physically. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: possible that, you know, put your feet up every couple

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Speaker 1: of days and maybe you're a little bit it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit easier to play through that pay Maybe you

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Speaker 1: just you just feel better physically. All those things we're

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Speaker 1: speculating now, but that's possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Six in the last two weeks, he brought up his

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Speaker 1: season long ops like sixty points in two weeks, which

524
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Speaker 1: is not easy to do. We're not playing every day

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Speaker 1: like he's sitting. Still a decent amount, including this weekend.

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Speaker 1: He sat one of the games this week and.

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Speaker 2: Still and that is late this late in the season too.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's April where you have three good games

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Speaker 2: and you double your ops. I mean that's that's significant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So big weekend from Marcel on a spotlight that

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Speaker 1: is certainly conflicting as far as what you would want

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, we'll dig back into some action over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Again, most of takeaways at this point in

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Speaker 1: the season. But you said it earlier, Joey Wentz might

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Speaker 1: be a thing. I mean we talked about with with

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Speaker 1: Herson Waldrop. He is a lower level priority at least

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Speaker 1: for now then Herston Waldrip old friend of course, but

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Speaker 1: everything we said applies about how many pitchers you need

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Speaker 1: you can rely on. Uh, he's cheap, and Joey Wentz

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Speaker 1: has been pretty darn good and two third innings for

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Speaker 1: the Brakes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Joey Wentz since signed off the scrap Heap

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Speaker 2: has made five starts and six appearances, and through twenty

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Speaker 2: eight and two third innings, Joey Wentz a two point

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Speaker 2: eight three ERA, a two point seven six FIP and

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Speaker 2: a three point seven six x FIP and that's largely

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Speaker 2: because Wentz has not been hit too hard by home runs.

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Speaker 2: But all that said, Wentz has been really impressive and

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Speaker 2: obviously a kid who was once upon a time highly

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Speaker 2: when you watch Wentz pitch, he looks good. Like this

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Speaker 2: is not total smoking mirrors. I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 2: think anyone's gonna sit here and say this is the

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Speaker 2: next Clayton Kershaw. But he's cheap. And not only is

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Speaker 2: he going to get this audition in the second half

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Speaker 2: or in the last two months of the season, but

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Speaker 2: I think you have to kind of pencil Wentz in

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Speaker 2: as like a possible sixth starter next season. Maybe you

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Speaker 2: have him throw out of the bullpen for the Braves.

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Speaker 2: These are decisions to be made down the road. But

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Speaker 2: I mean when they signed Wentz, I think everybody kind

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Speaker 2: of chuckled. It's like, wow, that guy. He's still kicking

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Speaker 2: around in the majors. But I mean those numbers speak

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Speaker 2: for themselves, and the pitch data is good, the stats

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Speaker 2: are good, the advanced stats are good. So maybe the

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Speaker 2: Braves found something here.

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Speaker 1: It's possible. For sure. I don't want to be the

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Speaker 1: guy that with them the parade. I'm a little skeptical still,

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Speaker 1: but also in a way where I don't want him

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Speaker 1: to be the fifth starter, like if he's your eighth guy,

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Speaker 1: ninth guy, tenth guy, like yeah up. And I mean

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Speaker 1: the underlying data I know and everybody loves it. But

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Speaker 1: to run a fip in the twos and an x

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Speaker 1: FIP in the threes for you know, almost thirty innings.

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Speaker 1: It's only thirty innings. But it's not like it's total

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Speaker 1: smoking mirrors. Like if he was running an era of

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Speaker 1: two point eight but every other metric was warning label

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Speaker 1: like flashing red lights, we would not be talking about

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Speaker 1: him like this. But it's the underling stuff being encouraging.

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Speaker 1: Is it's not dominant, but you know, there's enough pedigree there.

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Speaker 1: He has a live arm. He's not super young anymore,

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Speaker 1: but he is only twenty seven. Like they could find

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Speaker 1: something with him. I think the race had done to you,

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Speaker 1: like you said earlier, a good job with the pitching development.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm still in the intrigued stage

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Speaker 1: more than the excited stage. But I'm like, hey, Joey Wentz,

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Speaker 1: eyebrows are raised for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Please please do not think that we are just

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Speaker 2: saying put this guy in pen. He's a number three

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Speaker 2: starter moving forward. We are not saying that. But it's encouraging.

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Speaker 2: And there is a long track record in baseball of

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Speaker 2: especially lefties, the pictures on both sides, but of guys

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Speaker 2: figuring it out a little bit later in their career

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Speaker 2: and maybe something clicks. I'd be interested to hear kind

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Speaker 2: of when players do their exit interviews at the end

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Speaker 2: of the season, if Wentz says, yeah, they change this

633
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Speaker 2: for me or they change that for me because he's

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Speaker 2: been impressive. And I think you have to take the

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Speaker 2: mini victories when you can in a season like this,

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Speaker 2: and it at least gives you some depth, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: dear God, brat, if I have to watch another Bryce

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Speaker 2: Elder start, I'm gonna, I mean, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 2: like change my password and never watch MLB TV again,

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Speaker 2: because it's just they have to find better options than

641
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Speaker 2: like Bryce Elder, and you know when they were rotating

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Speaker 2: like Darius Vines and Alan Winan's like the ideally you

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Speaker 2: have someone who inspires a little more confidence.

644
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Speaker 1: All right, you want to do this now, Let's just

645
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: let's do this down quickly on The only game we

646
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: talk about so far is Friday's game, which is the

647
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: game they lost. Uh, Bryce Elder got smoked on Friday,

648
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: And we'll keep it short ish year, but I pulled

649
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: the data, so I have to atalas share it. Bryce

650
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: Older has made forty three starts in the last twenty

651
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: five months or so since July of twenty twenty three,

652
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: his last forty three starts. It's like a season and

653
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: a half, yes, since he was an All Star. Basically, yes,

654
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: it's like a season and a half of a full

655
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: time starter two years of his This is This does

656
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: not include Anthrom Triple A, where he did spend some time.

657
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: Only Major leaguis in that simple one hundred and forty

658
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: two pitchers have thrown at least one hundred and eighty innings.

659
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: He is one of those one hundred and forty two.

660
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: I say that because he is dead last in era

661
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: six point zero nine over that sample size. If you

662
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: want to be a little bit more charitable, his FIP

663
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: is about a run lower. It's still in the fives,

664
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: but it is better than that. But he has the

665
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: fourth worst FIP, so if that's what you want to say,

666
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: it's still bad. And he has the second worst Fangrafts

667
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: war of all of those pictures, hilariously only ahead of

668
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: old Palell Bryce Wilson or BRAVECE prospect Bryce Wilson.

669
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: Is it was Bryce Wilson who threw was like five

670
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: scoreless in the COVID NLCS in twenty twenty. Am I

671
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: mixing him up with somebody else?

672
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: I think that's correct. I'm gonna double check what we're talking,

673
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, he uh he had some pedigree at one

674
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: point with the Braves. People were excited about him. I'm

675
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: pulling it up right now.

676
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

677
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. He threw six innings one ear run in the

678
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: twenty There we Go playoffs.

679
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: We have not said the name Bryce Wilson maybe since

680
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, so that's impressive.

681
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was around for another like half season after

682
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: that and they got trade or maybe the fade one

683
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: of those. Anyway, I don't mean to be mean it.

684
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: That's why we're gonna pick as quick. Bryce Otter is

685
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: not good. I think we kind of know that. We'll

686
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: touch it out again one more time at the end

687
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: of the podcast because he's actually listed as a probable

688
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: picture for this week, which kind of surprised me. But

689
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: I agree. I know he was an All star. We

690
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: all understand. I would like to see the Braves have

691
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: ten pictures better than him that they can throw next year.

692
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think it was our friend

693
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: at Capitol Avenue that mentioned this. It's not a new thing.

694
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: But they've used bry They they used Bryce so little

695
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: in some like in the miners. There's a calculation out

696
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: there he could actually maybe have an option for next year,

697
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: and if he does, they're going to keep him because

698
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: they like Alex values guys that have options to go

699
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: up and down to the minors. I'm with you, though,

700
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to not watch Bryce older anymore. I feel

701
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: bad saying that. I just I don't want to do

702
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: this anymore.

703
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: But in the history of baseball, Brad, do you think

704
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: a starting pitcher who was named an All Star has

705
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: ever had a six ERA in the two calendar years

706
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: to follow.

707
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, probably just because it's a lot of baseball

708
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: has happened in the world.

709
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: But ayah, more than have more than three pitchers had

710
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: an ERA above six following an All Star Game.

711
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, probably not, I don't. It's

712
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: I feel okay, what's this move on? I feel bad.

713
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I feel bad because I don't want to. I'm not

714
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: rooting against him. We hope he does well. I mean

715
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: everybody students to like the guy. He's twenty six yars old.

716
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's like over forever for him as

717
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: a professional baseball player. I just I don't want to

718
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: watch him pitch anymore. But we'll leave it there. Let's

719
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: you have anything else to add, We'll leave it there

720
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: on price. Oh one more note from the weekend on field.

721
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: Matt Olsen homeward on Sunday to cat a good series

722
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: for him. He had seven hits against the Marlins this weekend.

723
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: And I say that because Ma's been was kind of

724
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: quiet for like about a full calendar month, from like

725
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: July six to eight August sixth. Basically, he hit his

726
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: seventy one w orc plus over thirty days. That's bad.

727
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: And Matt's been their best player of the season. He

728
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: leads the team in war and every category, will all

729
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: the things. But he had been in a slope and

730
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: he broke out of it this weekend. So that's nice

731
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: to see.

732
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to see. I think we know what is

733
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: this year four of Matt Olsen. Now he is a

734
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: very streaky hitter. And when Matt is hot, he can

735
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: carry the offense. And when he's cold it can be

736
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: for wink weeks or even months at a time. So

737
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: good to see Matt get going having a fantastic year

738
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: prior to this slump, and hopefully these final seven weeks

739
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: of the season he can hit like we know he

740
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: can hit, get those season long number numbers back up

741
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: to where we want them to be, and hope. I

742
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: mean he's probably gonna win a Gold Glove at first base, right, Brad.

743
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean, last time I looked, I have not.

744
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: Looked, so he's I saw the other day he's still

745
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: the comfortable leader in like you know, out of the

746
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: average a couple of I mean, look, we don't have

747
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: to talk about forever, but he until recently I think

748
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: even maybe still has the maybe leeds the National League

749
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: in fangrafts Ward first base, like he's still probably been

750
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: the could siderably been one of the three or four

751
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: bests been in the league this year, maybe even like

752
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: top one or two. Like he's been really good. It's

753
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: just been in a different way, Like he's not gonna

754
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: fifty home runs. He's probably gonna only hit like twenty

755
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: seven or something like that. But it's the defense has

756
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: been great. He's been taking walks. He is good like

757
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: Nelson's really good at baseball. So yeah, I see a

758
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: bounce back because up, I think we briefly mentioned it

759
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: a couple of times, but not like a deep back fashion.

760
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, actually it was worse than I

761
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: remembered because it was a lot of like he wasn't

762
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: going zero for five every night. It was like a

763
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: lot of like one for fours and with a single.

764
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: And that's not what you want from Medelson, Like you

765
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: need some power. And he showed it a little bit

766
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday. All right, before me bad, here some quick

767
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: news and notes and then we'll look ahead to the showdown.

768
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use showdown with a bit of a wink

769
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: in my eye. Scott. With the Mets this week, the

770
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Braves did some stuff transactionally. They claimed Vidal Breuhan, a

771
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: utility guy off waivers from the Orioles. He actually started

772
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: in the outfield once this weekend. I don't know much

773
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: about him, to be honest what I read on the internet,

774
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: but he had the career five thirty seven ops and

775
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: about a season's worth of plate appearances in the majors,

776
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 1: so he probably can't hit. It would be my analysis

777
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: of mister Breuhan.

778
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: He will fit right in.

779
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, utility player again, can play outfield, back up infield

780
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: and with Riley out and with Nacho had been banged up,

781
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: and they made some guy in some utilities that made

782
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: some Sense's just one of those things. And then also

783
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: today I believe they claimed a right handed pitcher, Connor

784
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: siebold off Waivers from the Rays. Another just god, Look,

785
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: the Braves should be honestly just taking shots guys that

786
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: are available. If you like one thing about them, like

787
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: one pitch, one little tweak you can make, if you

788
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: see something on paper, see something on film, bring them in.

789
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, it didn't work. But experientation is

790
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: probably a really good idea. Right now.

791
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: I would say, yes, absolutely, and we've said it before

792
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: on the show. But you have to think they're gonna

793
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: shut down Spencer Strider relatively soon. They're probably not gonna

794
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: have Chris Saale go until Game one sixty two, And honestly,

795
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: even guys like Dylan Lee and Pierce Johnson, who have

796
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: had pretty heavy workloads out of the bullpen this year,

797
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if you necessarily want to push those

798
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: guys to the very end of the season. They're gonna

799
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: need live arms, guys that can just kind of throw

800
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: out there, and like you said, maybe you find another

801
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: Joey Wentz type who it's like, hey, okay, maybe next

802
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: year this guy could be something for us rather than

803
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: just throwing a non prospect to the Wolves in the system.

804
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about right to me. Dylan Lee. By

805
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: the way, I believe it is like top ten in

806
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: baseball in appearances fifty five. Yeah, like I have control

807
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: over for a long time. Like, yeah, I would not

808
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: mind not having a ton more mileage put on him

809
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: this season. But yeah, we'll get to that later on

810
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: if we need to. Two updates on guys who are

811
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: much more entrenched. Ron Akunya was widely seen by the

812
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: media today Sunday morning doing drills on the field, sprinting

813
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: like letting it go, like actually sprinting on the field.

814
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: All signs points are Ronnie being back for relatively soon.

815
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: If he's doing that, he's gonna play, you would imagine soon.

816
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: And he's already eligible to come off the il, so

817
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: like he could play Tuesday. I'm not saying it's gonna happen,

818
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: but like he could play whatever he wants to do.

819
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: What if they wanted to do, we'll see.

820
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: Be careful, please, ronnieyahar lord, everybody say a prayer, hold

821
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: your breath, cross your fingers, crush your host, do whatever

822
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: you do to Then good thoughts for Ronald. I want

823
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: to see Ronald mccuinya junior out there. I want to

824
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: see him hit four hundred and fifty foot homers. I

825
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: want to see him being one of the most electric

826
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: baseball players on the planet. But for all of the

827
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: injury concerns that we have, Dear Lord, be careful, don't

828
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: don't get hurt again. That is the absolute last thing

829
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: the Braves need in these last six weeks. Yes, speaking

830
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: of Chris Sale is scheduled to throw a rehab outing

831
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: that they actually announced like three days ago now in

832
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Gwinette on Tuesday. Presumably that means he's going to be

833
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: pitching on the majors quite soon. If he's throwing in Gwinette,

834
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 2: I know it's close down the street. But Sale, we've

835
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: joked also not Jojano, Stephen and Sean did the same bit.

836
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: Good luck stop at Chris Silver pitching if you don't

837
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: want him to pitch, he's going to pitch soon. But

838
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: if you want something to do that's not watching Braves

839
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: mets on Tuesday, perhaps dial up the strippers and watch

840
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: Chris Sale. Yeah, Hey, you know, it's good to see

841
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: that Chris feels good enough to pitch and presumably make

842
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, four starts, five starts down the stretch.

843
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: We'll see ultimately what he does. But as we and

844
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: as Stephen and Sean kind of talked about the fact

845
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: it's only a rib injury that presumably is going to

846
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: not have any kind of long term lasting impacts. Sale

847
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: also broke ribs a few years ago, so this was

848
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: not his first rodeo back when he was with Boston.

849
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: I think so as long as Sale feels one hundred percent,

850
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: let him ramp up, hopefully give him something to build on,

851
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: because Sale, being the veteran that he is, has talked

852
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: many times about the importance of him having a regular

853
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: offseason routine and if he can make some starts and

854
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: get that arm to where it usually is, where it's

855
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: working and kind of having some stress on it down

856
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: the stretch, just don't don't overdo it. But it seems

857
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: like everybody is in agreement on kind of what should

858
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: happen these last two months.

859
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one thing I know I was s guilty

860
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: of on the show recently, and I can't remember point

861
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: of this out, So forgive me to which friend of

862
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: mine said this to me online. But these guys, you know,

863
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: shutting guys down. I still believe we should the bridge

864
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: should be careful with a lot of these guys. But

865
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: it's not like Chris Sale's gonna go be in a

866
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: cryod chamber all winter. Same with scholan Back, Like these

867
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: guys are gonna probably throw some pitches like they're gonna

868
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: like they do want to do some work. So you

869
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: could argue that's like having some structure kind of being normal.

870
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: You just said kind of the same point on Sale.

871
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: But even Sholm, like Schwellenbox, who happens he has an

872
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: arm injury. It's a little bit different than Sales for injury.

873
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: But there is an argument to have those guys like

874
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: kind of just being a regular routine because then also

875
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: you do kind of shut down in a season for

876
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: a while, but it's it's a it's a control hutdown.

877
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: These guys are pros. They're always these guys are twenty

878
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: four seven, three sixty five getting ready to pitch. It's

879
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: just like when you're getting ready to pitch, Like, yeah,

880
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Chris Sale, the maniact that he is, and we love

881
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: the maniact that he is is not like just forgetting

882
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: that he's gonna he's a pitcher. Like in December, he's

883
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: thinking about him getting ready, you know what I mean,

884
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: like staying ready, getting ready, staying in shape, all those things,

885
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: so like it never stops. So it's not as simple

886
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: as maybe I've made it sound or will we say no.

887
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know, Sale talked as he won the

888
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: cy Young a year ago that the off season was

889
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: like his first normal off season in five or six years,

890
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: and it.

891
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: Worked quite a bit for him.

892
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely worked. And before the backspasms got him, which is

893
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: a freak thing, Sale had a normal off season again

894
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: and he was fantastic. I mean, honestly, Sale was gonna

895
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: be top three, top four in SI Young voting before

896
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: he fell and broke the ribs. So it's important to him.

897
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: He Who are we to tell Chris Sale what he

898
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: should or should not do on a mound. As long

899
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: as he is not being obtuse and putting himself in

900
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: long term risk, Sale should do. He knows his body

901
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: better than anyone. The Braves doctors know him well. I mean,

902
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: just you know, be careful, don't have him throw one

903
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen pitches his first game back. But just

904
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: just be smart and get him into a rhythm so

905
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: he has again a normal off season.

906
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: All right, we'll probably out of here. The Braves faced

907
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: the Mets this week, so they have Monday off. After

908
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: playing eight games in seven days, they need Monday off.

909
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I would say at the travel as well, going up

910
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: to New York. But I haven't seen the Mets in

911
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: a while, and look full disclaimer, the brains are happy

912
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: in the season from hell, so glass houses, all those things.

913
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: I gotta say those, Scott. I am deeply enjoying the

914
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: Met's meltdown that's happening right now. And I know Braves

915
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: fans are probably in my boat with me. Our guy

916
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: Frank or your i'll say your guy Frank, Shawn's guy Frank.

917
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: I know you guys are always following the Frank experience.

918
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: If you don't know, Frank's the Mets super fan who's

919
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: has some funny videos. There was another one today. I

920
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: think I think Sean sent it to us. If you

921
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: didn't see that, Frank seven mounts down because the Mets

922
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: are terrible all of a sudden, which I'm enjoying just

923
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: to say it's out. Wow. They have now lost eleven

924
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: of the last twelve games, and they've been good this

925
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: year and they're not good now, and I enjoy the

926
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: shot and fraud of that. Yeah, the brains might go

927
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: up to New York get swept, That's very possible. But

928
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: in the moment, the Braves have one four or five

929
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: and the Mets have lost eleven of twelve. And yeah,

930
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: it's the small wins, Scott, the small wins.

931
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: And it's not even just a super recent thing with

932
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: the Mets being bad. They have been legitimately bad. So

933
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: I think New York started forty five and twenty four

934
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: and since then, over the last two months, the Mets

935
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: are eighteen and thirty one. They have had some crushing losses,

936
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: Like you know when the Braves lost those seven games

937
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: in a row twice and it was just like, Okay,

938
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: what dumb way are we gonna lose tonight? They just

939
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: got swept, I believe by the Brewers, who are just

940
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: an incredible story right now. By the way, the Milwaukee Brewers,

941
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: I know, we just saw them. But yeah, the Mets

942
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: are down bad. You know, they have this game circled

943
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: on their calendar. They're back home, get right. And I

944
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: guess if you're the Braves, even if it's unconventional, they

945
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: do get to play the role of spoiler, because last

946
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: time I looked at I think the Mets are maybe

947
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: now even like a game out of the playoff picture.

948
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: If you can cause them some more pain, let's do it.

949
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: Let's make the Mets sweat a little bit more and

950
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: make these last two months even more difficult.

951
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the Braves are five and two against the

952
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: Mets this year. They won the first five and then

953
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: lost the last two. But the Mets have had two

954
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: of these stretches now, like you mentioned the longer shrift,

955
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: but they also lost ten of eleven earro of this year,

956
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: which included the sweep loss of the Braves the first

957
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: time around. So you know, we talked on a recent

958
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: show about maybe rooting against the Mets and the Phillies

959
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: and the playoffs. The Mets am might not make the playoffs,

960
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Like the Mets are in a tailspin to where they

961
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: actually might miss the playoffs, which let us sound and unthinkable.

962
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: When they were, as you said, forty five to twenty four,

963
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: they were probably in the ninety five plus percent playoff odds,

964
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: and now they are not. They might still make it

965
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: because they you know, it's the weird situation, but throw

966
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: that out there. It's a big series. Look if people,

967
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: I will say, I'm sure there are people who have

968
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: been maybe tuned out the last couple of weeks on

969
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: the Braves, maybe the last ten days at least, who

970
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: might tune back in. Yeah, because they hate the Mets. Honestly,

971
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: I mean that's a pretty normal thing. I think there's

972
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: always a little more juice it is, didn't it is

973
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: during the week I think you said this briefly earlier,

974
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: but I think weekend versus weekday is gonna be a

975
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: little different for the rest of the season because weekend

976
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: series like that, Like you said, the five with the

977
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: at the Stadium was way better of the weekend than

978
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: it was during the week part. It was a win,

979
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: was winning, but it was just also more people there

980
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: because it's weekend. But uh, this is the time in

981
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: New York it should be sold out and juiced up.

982
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: It's the Mets. I know they're in a tail span,

983
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: but they were trying to win, and that's New York.

984
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna sell tickets with the Braves.

985
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, so it's gonna be Spencer Strider in the

986
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: first game, and then God help us all at the moment,

987
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: it is Carlos Carrasco on Wednesday and then Braced on Thursday.

988
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Wasn't Wasn't he a Met at one point? Carrasco, I'm

989
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: pretty sure he was.

990
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this, I think so that sounds right.

991
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm wasn't. Yeah he was. He was a Met for

992
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: three years. So yeah.

993
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: But I mean Corossco and Elder, dear lord, if the

994
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: Braves somehow win the series to just continue the Mets misery,

995
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: I mean, then it that's almost even worse. Like there's

996
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: no shame in losing some close games to the Brewers

997
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee and the state and sold that stadium. But

998
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: if you lose two out of three to the dead

999
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: in the water Braves throwing a struggling Spencer Strider a

1000
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: scrap heap, Carlos Carrasco, who's like thirty eight years old,

1001
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: and then Bryce Elder, who we talked about. I mean, oh, baby,

1002
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: I might call into New York Mets Radio just to

1003
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: see what's being said.

1004
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we won't do a lot of pitching matchup previews,

1005
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: but it's Carrasco against David Peterson, who has an ERA

1006
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: in the twos this year, and Bryce Leer gets Kudi

1007
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: Sing who has an ERA in the twos this year.

1008
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: So if the Mets somehow loses serious it would be

1009
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: quite funny. Oh one actual that we start teased earlier.

1010
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: So when they called Waldrup back up to pitch, we

1011
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: thought he might be the twenty seventh man in the doubleheader,

1012
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: and he actually wasn't. They called him back up as

1013
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: a full call up, I think, and a lot of us,

1014
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: including me, thought that he might just slot into Bryce

1015
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: Elder spot in the rotation because Bryce has been so

1016
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: bad and that Waldrup, I mean even stick kind of

1017
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: like tacitly acknowledged, like I think the way he said

1018
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: it was, well, he wasn't the twenty seventh man. Might

1019
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: maybe he'll be around for a while, one of those

1020
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: kind of things, not explicitly saying it, but so I

1021
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: was kind of not surprised. I was just it was

1022
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: notable to me that Bryce was still in a retition

1023
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: because water could go on Wednesday, sorry, on Thursday, that's

1024
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: the third game of the series, all normal rest, so

1025
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: maybe they'll still do that. But if they don't, I

1026
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: don't really know what is happening with Waldrop, so we'll

1027
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: see that they might.

1028
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: You know, they might be giving Waldrop just an extra

1029
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: day because they have the off day. And I mean,

1030
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: don't I know that they're auditioning Waldrop and thing what

1031
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: they have. But he is hitting presumably is going to

1032
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: hit a wall here pretty soon, full season workload pitching

1033
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: into September, I would imagine. So maybe they're just I mean,

1034
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: the Braves clearly when they if the Braves gave a

1035
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: rats ass about winning these games, they would not send

1036
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: Bryce Elder out there like they would they would do

1037
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: a bullpen game. They would have somebody literally anybody else

1038
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: start say Yeah. I mean, I think I wouldn't be

1039
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: surprised if Waldrop, assuming he's kept up on the roster,

1040
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: will be starting next week and against I don't even

1041
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: know who they're playing, Brad Guardians. Cleveland's kind of weird,

1042
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: like they're winning games and their two best pitchers are

1043
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: on the anyway weird weird team.

1044
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, you're right, it's a good point. I

1045
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: just I don't care. I'm again, it doesn't really matter

1046
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: about the winning games part, which is why Carrasco and

1047
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Elder is more of an lol than it is like

1048
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: us freaking out about it. It is what it is.

1049
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: But I just thought it was notable that we I

1050
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: thought we might see Waldrop listed on Thursday and it's

1051
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: not him, So vibe he goes Friday, like you said,

1052
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: maybe that they can still change it. Probables are probable

1053
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: for a reason. They're not definites. They're probables.

1054
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: So uh.

1055
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: But also, the Braves tend to just go to TBA

1056
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: or TVD if they don't know what they're gonna do,

1057
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: or even they know what they're gonna do, they will

1058
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: occasionally go gamesmanship and with nobody. So them listing Carrasco

1059
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: and Elder was like, oh, they're probably gonna be carascoing

1060
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: Elder and we'll see it. But you know they went

1061
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: after that and stretch them all out. Everybody should be

1062
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: pitching this, take up as much time as you need.

1063
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: I think Trip's already, like especially his career high innings,

1064
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: I think he matched maybe close to matching last year,

1065
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: like one hundred dish between the two levels, So like, yeah,

1066
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't go all the way to the end

1067
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Speaker 1: of the season, which is possible, so keep that in mind.

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, we managed to go longer than we thought.

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Speaker 1: Shocking from us in mid August. Anything else you would

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Speaker 1: like to add on the podcast before we before we

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Speaker 1: sign off. Not a thing, Brad, not a thing. Wow,

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Speaker 1: No Colts takes.

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Speaker 2: We have said it all, Uh.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Nothing fantasy football show.

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Speaker 2: You asked me about the Colts, and my blood pressure

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Speaker 2: goes up. I think about Anthony Richardson gets out of

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Speaker 2: bed in the morning and he breaks four bones. It's bad.

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Speaker 2: I know I shouldn't complain. Peyton Manning was the quarterback

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Speaker 2: of my favorite team for a large portion of my life.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, you're so, you're so tortured Colts fan.

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Speaker 1: It's fine, you could be a Falcons fan. Look, we're

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Speaker 1: we are, though, firmly and fansy football season like squarely

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Speaker 1: in the middle, and uh, you like, I enjoy the sport.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think you we were talking dynasty keepers recently,

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Speaker 1: you and I ale, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love I know, I know it's like exploding in popularity.

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Speaker 2: I love fantasy football. If if fantasy football like if

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Speaker 2: an evil magician waved his wand and got rid of

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Speaker 2: fantasy football my care in the NFL would go down

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Speaker 2: so much. But I love it, man. It's it's fun,

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Speaker 2: it's competitive. Do I have a lague with my buddies

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Speaker 2: I've been doing for like fifteen years at this point

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Speaker 2: it's I love it as do I.

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Speaker 1: I mean, way too many leagues. I won't even tell

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Speaker 1: you how many on the show. It's kind of embarrassing

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Speaker 1: how many leagues are in. Okay, Scott, let's get out

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Speaker 1: of here. People should be following you at Scott Coleman

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Speaker 1: fifty five. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Please send all of your hottest takes to at BT

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Speaker 2: Rowland too, at SAT's Sac.

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Speaker 1: That's acts Stat's Sac. If you have lots of takes

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Speaker 1: you want to send out, no, I'll joke aside. Please

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Speaker 1: follow Hammer Territory anywhere you find podcasts, Apple, Spotify. We're

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Speaker 1: also on YouTube, so please like this. Beyk for watching

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Speaker 1: us there. Tell your friends about the show, raise reviews,

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Speaker 1: appreciated all that fun stuff. Will have much more coming

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Speaker 1: up later on this week, and we'll see you all

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Speaker 1: next time.