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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're proud to just be

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Speaker 1: a couple of women of the NFL Scouting Combine. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal here with Jordan rod Rieg from the Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Convention Center, and yes, we were both attendees at the

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Speaker 1: Women of the NFL Happy Hour last night. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for inviting me, Jordan.

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Speaker 2: You are so welcome, Greg.

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Speaker 3: I was so happy to see you there, along with

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Speaker 3: a couple of other very supportive men in our industry

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Speaker 3: and a crapload of women, and it was so cool.

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Speaker 3: I first attended that event seven years ago when it started.

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Speaker 3: My good friend Courtney Cronin was the one who started it.

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Speaker 3: Had a lot of support from the less than ten

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Speaker 3: women who were actually here at the combine at that time. Wow,

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Speaker 3: like seven people were at the first one in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: There was probably three hundred people there last night.

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Speaker 4: It was a party.

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Speaker 1: Some of some our favorites here at NFL and Network,

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Speaker 1: Jane Slater, Stacy Dale's and yeah, Courtney Cronan does awesome

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Speaker 1: work at ESPN, So that was fine night. We brought

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Speaker 1: Adam from the Block Party podcast. He's gotta do a

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Speaker 1: little work for us for the combine. Next week as well.

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Speaker 1: We are setting the table today Jordan for our interviews

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Speaker 1: will be the last ones to hear that we taped.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited for you guys to hear the interviews

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Speaker 1: we did with Jason Light It was spicy.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for listeners to hear that one specifically.

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Speaker 4: Gave me a little grief.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks general manager, one of the best in the game,

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Speaker 1: Dave Canalis, the head coach of the Carolina Panthers, talking

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Speaker 1: about their team building process, what they need to do

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Speaker 1: on defense, Little Bryce Young of course, and then Ryan Poles,

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Speaker 1: the Bears general manager. Now Wednesday here at the combine,

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Speaker 1: much quieter from a general manager and coaching perspective. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to hit you with just like a little

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Speaker 1: bit of news, some from the insiders, some from the podium,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get to the interviews and we will

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Speaker 1: get out of here and we're going to start Jordan

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Speaker 1: more veteran trade news. Yesterday it was Jonathan Allen. Today

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Speaker 1: it's Harold Landry. Ian Rappaport, our insider says the Titans

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Speaker 1: longtime pass rusher who has a lot of sacks over

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Speaker 1: the last few years, they've allowed him to seek a trade.

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Speaker 1: Usually that's code for we're gonna cut you if you

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Speaker 1: can't find a trade. Mildly surprising, but Titans fans will

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Speaker 1: tell you he maybe hasn't been quite as good as

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Speaker 1: the sack.

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Speaker 4: Numbers show a little up and down as a player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, former second round pick too, and if they cut him,

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Speaker 3: it would save them about ten and a half million,

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Speaker 3: a little bit more against the cap. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: that's one of those moves where you could tell new

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Speaker 3: regime is in town, in the front office in Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: gonna kind of clean out a little bit of what's

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Speaker 3: left there and try to recoup some assets.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the listeners should really appreciate Jordan's playing hurt tonight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I am so glad by the way that we

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Speaker 3: got our interviews done before my voice went out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened after I saw you leaving

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Speaker 1: Saint Elmos, but Jordan looked like she was on a

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Speaker 1: spaceship to having a good time.

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Speaker 3: Let's be clear, professional, you know, let's be clear. This

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Speaker 3: is the start of the combined week where you just

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Speaker 3: trade in.

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Speaker 2: Secrets all week.

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Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of information.

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Speaker 3: Sawiddle insiders, you know, saw some insiders.

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Speaker 4: On the surface, things just happened.

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Speaker 1: I walked into Nate Tice right as we were leaving,

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Speaker 1: and now he's going to join the show actually on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: just because I happened to walk past him, and he'll

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Speaker 1: break down some draft stuff. It's really great to see

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Speaker 1: everyone in one spot, and that includes the GMS as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Harold Landry. I think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: He has a lot of production, but he might end

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Speaker 1: up being on my top one on one free agency

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Speaker 1: it was interesting. Chris Ballard said, very plainly, Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 4: What do you think that means.

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Speaker 1: For the type of quarterback that they will bring in

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Speaker 2: I know, and we've talked about this on previous shows.

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Speaker 3: There are a slew of like quote unquote bridge quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: This seems like one of those things we see every

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Speaker 3: They try to make sure that you know, they feel

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be Gardner Minshew, we know this,

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Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette, you know, Mac Jones. It's not a great

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Speaker 2: Derek Carr would make sense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd give up anything for him,

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Speaker 1: for Anthony to have to compete, and that they should.

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Speaker 4: They will have someone at the level.

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Speaker 1: Of a Brissette or a Derek Carr, which will not

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Speaker 4: So we will see how that goes.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, they are not just putting all their chips in

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Speaker 4: This year.

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Speaker 1: Darren Mujie talked that the Jets general manager and he

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Speaker 1: mentioned DeVante Adams, something we didn't talk about on Tuesday's show,

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Speaker 1: and he gave the dreaded Davante is on the team

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Speaker 2: Right now ooo death sentence.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he's done. I guess it really is. Yeah, can

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Speaker 1: Do you think for DeVante Adams in the year twenty

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Speaker 3: Which is like, it's almost a two person deal.

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Speaker 1: It's so strange to me because like, are they at

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Speaker 1: the point is Rogers, especially at the point of his career,

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Speaker 3: So I don't think that he is personally and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the right.

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Speaker 3: be able to do that with them.

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Speaker 1: To me, Devanta Adams has more value. I think he

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Speaker 1: due thirty five million dollars this year. I have a

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Speaker 1: hard time imagining a team giving him all that. Florio,

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Speaker 2: The we were next to them all week.

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Speaker 1: Yes, not the fantasy guy from the NFL, who's a

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Speaker 1: real Mike Florio too, the other Mike Florio throughout that

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Speaker 1: Rogers might have expressed some interest to the Giants, that

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Speaker 1: he might be interested in the Giants. Could they just

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Speaker 1: go across town? Either way, don't expect Devanta Adams to

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Speaker 1: be on that team. Well, while we're doing it, let's

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Speaker 1: do our daily, let's limit it to like ninety seconds

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Speaker 1: on Matthew Stafford. We can't go too log in Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Every single year National Nightmare continues.

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Speaker 4: You know, I like it. I just it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a daily upty number one.

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay had some very interesting quotes and comments on

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Speaker 1: the Fits and wit podcast new podcast Ryan Fitzpatrick Andrew Witworth.

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Speaker 1: I recommend people just listen to the whole segment because

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvac can speak better and longer. Like it's hard

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Speaker 1: I think it was nuanced and I didn't leave that

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Speaker 1: be happy to have Matthew Stafford back at their price,

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Speaker 1: and people should just check that out. The news of

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Speaker 1: the day to me was more from the Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: Review Journal, who said Tom Brady has reached out specifically

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Speaker 1: to Matthew Stafford's representatives.

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Speaker 2: Like Jimmy Sixton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who is allowed who As we reported and I

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Speaker 3: we've been saying forever Greg that it's potentially the Raiders

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Speaker 4: John Spytech, You've been saying it for weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's the receipts people trying to do some breaking news.

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Speaker 4: Forget it. She's been breaking this for.

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Speaker 3: Weeks, and you know the Giants and that's obviously that's

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Speaker 2: I mean, but it's exciting.

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Speaker 3: But like, man, they are just running all over the

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Speaker 3: on top of this situation. If they do finally get

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Speaker 2: If so.

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Speaker 3: My friend Charlotte Carroll was at her wits end yesterday

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Speaker 3: on this that's when you saw us.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like, I kind of actually think Rogers

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Speaker 1: makes more sense with the Giants than any other team

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Speaker 1: I've heard suggested.

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Speaker 3: So maybe it kind of feels like the equivalent of

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Speaker 3: the U up text, Like he he sent them expressed interest,

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Speaker 3: expressed potential interests. You just sent him a little Joe

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Speaker 3: Shane sent him a little U up.

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Speaker 2: Text, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see if by the end of the

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Speaker 1: our time in Indianapolis all the reporters will be out

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Speaker 1: be some movement on this front. We will see. So

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Speaker 1: I have watched, you know, some of the coaches that

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Speaker 4: One of them Mike McDonald's.

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Speaker 4: I also appreciated his honesty.

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Speaker 3: This is going to turn into the most annoying time

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Speaker 2: He has seen.

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Speaker 1: This is why I'm glad Like you passed the ball

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Speaker 2: Told you, I said, Greg, I'm what I said, going

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Speaker 1: I admit I'm not really in the drinking mode anymore, but.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Chris means a world to this team, into all

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Speaker 6: these undrafted rookie free agents that made contributions, and to

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Speaker 6: sign some affordable free agents.

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Speaker 5: I don't say cheap, but affordable.

444
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Speaker 6: And uh, you know I I think I made a

445
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Speaker 6: mistake last year saying we're gonna go to the dollar

446
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Speaker 6: store to find players.

447
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Speaker 5: But we had to. Yeah, we had to find cheap,

448
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Speaker 5: cheap ones. Are you know, you know we got it.

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Speaker 2: We got it.

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Speaker 6: But they all made a lot of them. We hit

451
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Speaker 6: on a lot of them for their roles, and you know,

452
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Speaker 6: it showed us that we have a great foundation of

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Speaker 6: some young players right now, so that we're going to

454
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Speaker 6: keep rolling with and we're gonna try to draft, keep

455
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Speaker 6: drafting well and I think we were hit a sweet

456
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Speaker 6: spot where we're competing every year.

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Speaker 3: And that's coaching no because when you do have those

458
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Speaker 3: players and you identify it and you guys, you basically say, okay,

459
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Speaker 3: like we're pushing you into the world as we've drafted you,

460
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Speaker 3: and here you go, like we're handing you off to

461
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Speaker 3: the coaching staff. That has not been without turnover either,

462
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Speaker 3: but every year it seems like a lot of these

463
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Speaker 3: young guys are really getting coached up. So how do

464
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Speaker 3: you go about that identification process of coaching talent?

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Speaker 2: What do you look for in your teachers?

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Speaker 5: Well, Todd does a great job.

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Speaker 6: The last two years we've you know, obviously a lot

468
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Speaker 6: of turnover at offensive coordinator and he's let me be

469
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Speaker 6: a part of that, let lets me advise him and

470
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Speaker 6: all those things.

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Speaker 5: But he makes the call.

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Speaker 6: But he's hired two really good ones, Dave Canals and

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Speaker 6: then Liam Cohen and then now Josh Grizzard, And I

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Speaker 6: think I think grizz is going to do an out

475
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Speaker 6: standy job. I think he's going to follow suit with

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Speaker 6: those guys, and I think in some ways, you know,

477
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Speaker 6: we can pick up where we left off and maybe

478
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Speaker 6: have some fresh ideas too.

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Speaker 2: Yes or no.

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Speaker 3: Baker and Grizz is the name of the TV show

481
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Speaker 3: that you guys should be producing about those two specifically.

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Speaker 6: I know, and you have to somehow incorporate I was

483
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Speaker 6: looking up when we hired Josh last year. He's from

484
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Speaker 6: a town called Lizard Lick.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, you got that, like one of the Dakota's

486
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Speaker 4: or something.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's in North Carolina. Okay, yeah, I.

488
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Speaker 3: Can't even actually wrap my head around what a.

489
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Speaker 5: Cool hoodie like Lizard Lick High.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you should do a sports jersey get

492
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Speaker 3: his name on the back too. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 3: a mind twister.

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Speaker 1: I haven't thought a lot about like how that offense

495
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Speaker 1: is going to be different. You're a good person to ask, like,

496
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Speaker 1: do you what what do you think that he brings

497
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Speaker 1: Maybe that the previous coordinators didn't. That's particular particular to him.

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Speaker 5: You know that that's still going to evolve.

499
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Speaker 6: It's it kind of it's going to depend on if

500
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Speaker 6: we've made any additions through the draft. Who we have

501
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Speaker 6: accentuate the strengths of you know, Rashad and and and

502
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Speaker 6: Bucky and Sean Tucker. I think it's we're going to

503
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Speaker 6: kind of pick up where we left off and then

504
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Speaker 6: just like every year, evolve a little bit differently and

505
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Speaker 6: do some new things and some new twists.

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Speaker 1: When you when you lose in the playoffs, like that,

507
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Speaker 1: a game that that could have gone either way, do

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Speaker 1: you like, do you take it specific lessons from that

509
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Speaker 1: game that you'll you'll use to implement this offseason.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: You see where we were lacking, and I'm not blind

512
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Speaker 6: where we needed some help, particularly on one side of

513
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Speaker 6: the ball, and you try to you try to do

514
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Speaker 6: your best to upgrade there and get some more depth.

515
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Speaker 6: It's not as easy as what some people think. The

516
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Speaker 6: answer isn't always just throwing a lot of cash and

517
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Speaker 6: buying expensive free agents.

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Speaker 3: No way.

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Speaker 6: We've found that. It's you can there's other ways you

520
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Speaker 6: can do it. Now sometimes there's an opportunity for a

521
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Speaker 6: big splash. But yeah, yeah it did. And you know,

522
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Speaker 6: after the season, it takes me a while unless you

523
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Speaker 6: win the whole thing just to get over the and.

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Speaker 2: You have you have won the whole thing. Yeah, you know, doesn't.

525
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Speaker 1: Try to be a little crazy football because I live

526
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Speaker 1: in like this all. Like one thing I said about

527
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Speaker 1: this year's Bucks is if you re ran that playoff tournament,

528
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Speaker 1: let's say twenty times, ten times, even like I actually

529
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Speaker 1: think there's there's at least one or two of those times,

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Speaker 1: maybe more. You would you would argue where Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: is up on that podium with like a Super Bowl

532
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Speaker 1: MVP and that the margins are one or.

533
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Speaker 5: Two that receipt.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yes, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Greg, I knew it was going to

536
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Speaker 2: be you. Somehow I knew it was going to be you.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying there's probably like six or seventeen that I thought.

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Speaker 5: Could have won.

539
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Speaker 4: You're one of them.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, but I'm not giving them all equal chances

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Speaker 1: to be fair, to be honest, Like, I don't know,

542
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Speaker 1: does it is that like the beauty of the sports

543
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: here or does that drive you crazy a little?

544
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Speaker 5: Both? I mean, it's it's it feels good.

545
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Speaker 6: To know that you know, you feel and you're you're

546
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Speaker 6: trying to think objectively that you know, we we can

547
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Speaker 6: win the division and get in. We have as good

548
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Speaker 6: a shot as anybody to get to the big dance

549
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Speaker 6: in the NFC. So just but we have to keep up,

550
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Speaker 6: we have to keep adding. We kind of can't just

551
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Speaker 6: sit in our hands.

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Speaker 3: So you know, this defense always plays hard under Todd.

553
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Speaker 3: We know that we see it explodes off the tape

554
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Speaker 3: as well, but obviously shorthanded in some elements there. What

555
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Speaker 3: what kind of defense do you want to be? What

556
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Speaker 3: do you want this identity of this group to be

557
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Speaker 3: past the effort that they put in.

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Speaker 5: Well, I want to.

559
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Speaker 6: Be aggressive, we want to be fast, we want to

560
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Speaker 6: be physical, and we want to be I mean all

561
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Speaker 6: things Todd would say, and we want to be a

562
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Speaker 6: good tackling team. And you know Todd's always you know,

563
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Speaker 6: every few years does completely does a makeover and changes

564
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Speaker 6: a lot of the things that he does defensively to

565
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Speaker 6: keep it fresh. And I know he's been he's been

566
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Speaker 6: in the lab lately doing some things to make things

567
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Speaker 6: a little bit differently this year. So it but it

568
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Speaker 6: all depends on the personnel that you have. So we

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Speaker 6: have to we have to help as much as we

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Speaker 6: can there.

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Speaker 1: So we had your your former co worker, Don spy

572
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Speaker 1: Tech on the show. How does it feel that you've

573
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Speaker 1: now got a tree like a Jason light GM tree

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Speaker 1: out there in the wild.

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Speaker 6: He's a great one to put out there. He's he's

576
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Speaker 6: been ready for a while and for a long time.

577
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Speaker 6: And he and I go way back to two thousand

578
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Speaker 6: and five when he was a intern with the Dolphins,

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Speaker 6: and I remember we were going to promote him to

580
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Speaker 6: a scouting assistant after two years of being an intern,

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Speaker 6: and I took him out golfing, and my boss at

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Speaker 6: the time, Tom Heckert, said, yeah, offer him the scouting

583
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Speaker 6: assistant job, and I did, and he he teed off

584
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Speaker 6: and he turned around and looked at me and goes,

585
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Speaker 6: you know what better than that? I think, Oh, I

586
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Speaker 6: think I went a little bit better title, And I.

587
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Speaker 5: Was like what? And we ended up giving it to him.

588
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Speaker 5: That rules.

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Speaker 1: That's one of those moments I almost imagine, like Baker

590
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Speaker 1: Mayfield's got a little bit of that.

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Speaker 4: You're almost like, see, that's what I'm saying.

592
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Speaker 2: You guys like big personality.

593
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Speaker 1: You're almost like I asked him in half a second,

594
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Speaker 1: maybe who is this guy?

595
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Speaker 4: But also that's badass?

596
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Speaker 5: I like. Later on, I asked him, what were you

597
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Speaker 5: going to do? What was your backup plany because I

598
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Speaker 5: didn't have one.

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Speaker 3: How was the shot he hit? Oh he's a good golfer,

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Speaker 3: all right, I was gonna say, because if you shanked it,

601
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Speaker 3: and then you said that it wouldn't have the same effect.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like he it was. It was

603
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Speaker 6: a walk off. You know, your game, it's getting a

604
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 6: little bit better, but I'm still.

605
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Speaker 1: It's getting better on the golf course, Jason light but

606
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: has been killing it in terms of the draft. Looking

607
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: forward to all the moves the Bucks are making this offseason.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining the show. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Greg for the bulletin board material.

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Speaker 4: Oh come on, that was I'm saying they could have

611
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Speaker 4: won the title.

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Speaker 5: That's thanks Jason.

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Speaker 1: We are here with Dave Kanalis, the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Dave, you said, as we're getting going, you actually like

617
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Speaker 1: doing the media stuff that that's refreshed to hear.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, why is that?

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Speaker 7: I think it just kind of helps crystallize perspective, goals, vision,

620
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Speaker 7: all those things like what do we really want to accomplish?

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Speaker 7: And so when you get asked those questions like, oh,

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Speaker 7: it's a good one. You know, I didn't thought about that,

623
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Speaker 7: or I know exactly how to answer this one.

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Speaker 5: You know.

625
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're big on manifesting, are you?

626
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Speaker 3: So I almost feel like talking it like basically having

627
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Speaker 3: a written record or an audible record in this case,

628
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Speaker 3: would help with that manifestation.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and there's accountability to it too. I think, you know,

630
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Speaker 7: primarily my commitment is to Panthers fans and to the

631
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Speaker 7: Carolinas and and to tell them this is what we're

632
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 7: trying to build. And if it doesn't look like that,

633
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 7: that's when I get those comments and those things like, well,

634
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 7: you said you're gonna build this team off of this

635
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 7: this and that you know, It's like, yeah, I did

636
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 7: say that, we're not doing that right now, or hey,

637
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 7: did you see this?

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Speaker 5: This is exactly what we're looking for.

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Speaker 1: So so we do a national show and yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Panthers fans they know you well by now. I feel

641
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: like the Bucks fans got a chance to know you.

642
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: But but nationally, I feel like the Panthers relatively under

643
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: the radar. So I was I was thinking, I've heard

644
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Speaker 1: you have a lot of energy. You know, I've seen it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious, behind closed doors, what is a Dave

646
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: Canalis meeting? Like, like, how are you running this team?

647
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Speaker 1: How would you describe that? Behind the scenes?

648
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: Just connecting.

649
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 7: I want to make sure that I'm connecting with the

650
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Speaker 7: humans who are these guys and what are they going through?

651
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Speaker 7: I'd like to say this, you know going into the

652
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 7: off season, is they're different. You know, the names may

653
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 7: be the same in different positions, they have changed, They

654
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 7: come off of different seasons. Some have gotten married, some

655
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 7: have had kids, some have had deaths in the family.

656
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Speaker 7: These are different people with different expectations and goals. I

657
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Speaker 7: think it's really critical that we reconnect as a staff

658
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Speaker 7: with what that is and create a joint vision for

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Speaker 7: what the next steps are for them, because I believe

660
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Speaker 7: that you can go a lot, go far places, go

661
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 7: really go where you can go to the plate, to

662
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 7: your potential when you're connected that way.

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Speaker 3: You always hear too that if players talk about this,

664
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Speaker 3: I think especially a younger generation of coaches talk about

665
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: this too, about if you understand a little bit more

666
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: about someone else's why, you are more likely to push

667
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: harder for them because you feel like, I know a

668
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: little bit more about that person's story, so now I

669
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Speaker 3: don't want to let them down. Are you feeling that

670
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: mutuality between yourself and your players are entering your two now?

671
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

672
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 7: And so it's us learning the players, and then it's

673
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 7: the players hearing the consistent messaging, and that's where I

674
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 7: have people that say, hey, remember go back to this,

675
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 7: you know, and have people around me that remind me

676
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 7: of the principles and so that the narrative, so that

677
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 7: the goal stays the same for everybody.

678
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: You keep the receipts in a positive way.

679
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and let you know the receipts are They're great. Yes.

680
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 4: I am a huge Geno Smith fan to thank you.

681
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: For that point where we have a sub series called

682
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: Quarterback Island where we put a select number of quarterbacks

683
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: on Quarterback Island.

684
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: He is on the island.

685
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: Oh, but we call it Geno Island because when Greg

686
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: gets going on Geno Smith, it's it's a lot.

687
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: I always like, like Dayfere, I always believed in him,

688
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: even when he was back to the jet. I was like,

689
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: he absolutely could be a high quality start it all happens.

690
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: So thank you for your contributions to him obviously, and

691
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: then Baker Mayfield and then this year with Bryce young Y. Yes,

692
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: I feel like he was a theme of our show

693
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: that we were talking about week to week as far

694
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: back as that first game he came back against the

695
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: Broncos where I thought on tape he was made better

696
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: decisions even if it didn't show up on that box score,

697
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: He's thrown it where he wants to and good decisions

698
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: all the way through the rest of the season. I

699
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: guess from your vantage point, just what was it that

700
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: helped him improve throughout the course of the season so much?

701
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, just his toughness. You said it.

702
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 7: That Broncos game, we score a touchdown on the opening drive,

703
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 7: it felt different. I have so much respect for Bryce

704
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 7: taking the challenges of the situation and just going right

705
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 7: back to work. He just kept working and when he

706
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 7: got his opportunity, he took it and he was letting

707
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 7: me know, he was letting the team know, I'm here,

708
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 7: this is my team. Here we go. And it was

709
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 7: just a weekly commitment to that, you know. And I'm

710
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 7: so excited to just get back going. I know, we

711
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 7: still got a couple of months, you know, to really,

712
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 7: you know, start reconnecting on the things that I was

713
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 7: kind of teaching.

714
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: For the first time.

715
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 7: But to be able to build off of the those things,

716
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 7: but to have it just helps me visualize what we

717
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 7: can become. Knowing Bryce is going to be our quarterback,

718
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 7: how do we build this thing out so that we

719
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 7: can achieve our best.

720
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: It was a joyful thing watching him be so kind.

721
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: It was like he remembered who the f he is,

722
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: really no doubt, and that was a joyful thing to see.

723
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: And we did not, obviously get to see.

724
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes, behind closed doors, what those little turning

725
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: points are, because I don't think with anyone in life,

726
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: it's not one massive catalytic moment. It's a series of

727
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: small moments back to yourself, right, And so I wonder

728
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: what you saw from him, how he came back to

729
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: himself and the group around him, how they supported him

730
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: in that.

731
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're right.

732
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 7: I think it was a mental discipline, toughness to remember

733
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 7: who he is, to remember how he got here, who

734
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 7: he's always been, and he's always had challenges and he's

735
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 7: always overcome. And that's the belief that he has in

736
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 7: himself first and foremost. You know, don't wait on me

737
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 7: to make decisions for you, and he didn't. He got

738
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 7: in there and he took it. And that's the thing

739
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 7: that I respect the most. And such a cool meeting

740
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 7: to leave this season, kind of like your exit interview

741
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 7: type of thing, and I can feel this mutual respect

742
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 7: for each other of I respect you for how you

743
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 7: responded to this challenge, and I could feel his respect

744
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 7: for me to like and as we've done it, I'm

745
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 7: going to shape this offense to have your signature on it,

746
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 7: to make the things that you do well come to life.

747
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 7: And I want your input, I want you involved. This

748
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 7: is your team. Let's do this thing together.

749
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: So really empowering, I think.

750
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

751
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: At the wide receiver position, you draft Xavier lag At

752
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: how you mentioned earlier on Tuesday that he's gonna be

753
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: overcoming foot surgery offseason, you found a good undrafted rookie

754
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: and Jail and Coker. Do you expect that group to

755
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: be added to and do you think Adam Feelin is

756
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: going to be part of your future plans too.

757
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 5: I certainly hope Adam is hopefully.

758
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 7: You know, he had fun down the stretch as he

759
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 7: came back to us, and Bryce found a to hit

760
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 7: him down the field and short and intermediate, and I

761
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 7: just was like, man, he's such a phenomenal player still,

762
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 7: you know, and the impact that he has on Xavier

763
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 7: and Jalen, you know, and guys like David Moore who

764
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 7: are veteran ride receivers who know how to work, you know,

765
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 7: and do that, but we're always going to try to

766
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 7: challenge the roster. We're always going to try to like

767
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 7: make everyone's play step up. I don't think you can

768
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 7: ever go into any offseason and just go to, ah,

769
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 7: now we're good here, you know. I would love to

770
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 7: just just mess things up a little bit by adding

771
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 7: somebody really talented and see if these other players can

772
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 7: find another level.

773
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and that's the beauty of competition.

774
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 7: That's why I truly believe you challenge your roster by

775
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 7: adding in free agency and the draft every year instead

776
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 7: of just staying away from certain positions.

777
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: And that's that's a process. Obviously, you collaborate with dan

778
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: on and I'm kind of wondering, you know, now that

779
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: you guys have some momentum, some experience together, what is

780
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 3: that like, what have you taken from each other? How

781
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 3: do you identify talent together? And maybe what has changed

782
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 3: about each other that you've taken from each other.

783
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

784
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 7: I think spending a year of just talking about our

785
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 7: team has really helped come to the combine this year,

786
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 7: you know, with different eyes. I think that the more

787
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 7: that he understands about my offense, defense, our schemes, and

788
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 7: he says, Okay, I know how to fit these players

789
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 7: into our schemes, you know, and for us to continue

790
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 7: to become aligned and to make those decisions with all

791
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 7: of those things in mind. The more our coaches talk,

792
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 7: the more the scouts tell us how they're profiling these players,

793
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 7: you know, the tighter we can get in our decisions,

794
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 7: you know. And I think we'll see that the more

795
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 7: time we spend together.

796
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: Do you think it's safe to say you might have

797
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: more needs on defense? And is there anything you're looking

798
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: for specifically defensively this offseason?

799
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 7: I think it's just about stopping the run. We got

800
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 7: to stop the run.

801
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: You know.

802
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 7: That was It's no secret you know that was our kryptonite,

803
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 7: you know, and philosophically, that's something that we all believe in.

804
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 7: It starts there, and we address some things on the

805
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 7: offensive line. We'll address some things up front on the defense,

806
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 7: but it comes from different spots. It's not just the

807
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 7: front play. It starts there, but it's your inside backers,

808
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 7: it's your safety play. Do they show up physically and

809
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 7: aggressive at the point of attack? Are we playing that

810
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 7: high level of pursuit of defense that I know we

811
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 7: can and should play it's demanding those types of things,

812
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 7: you know, and I really think that we can make

813
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 7: an impact this year.

814
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: I have studied Jiro everywe in that defensive system for

815
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: a long time, and I think it's under under It

816
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: was under discussed that some of the technique that you

817
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: have to play with up front, it's just not for everybody.

818
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: It's not a fit for everybody, and it takes some

819
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: time to match, like you said, to match the right

820
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: players with that scheme. Getting a certain very very very

821
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: very good defensive tackle healthy and back for you guys

822
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: next year will probably helped too.

823
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 7: Being in Tampa for a year, laying against Derek Brown,

824
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 7: you ask yourself, do you want to run at him

825
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 7: or away from him? There's no right answer. You just

826
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 7: have to You have to know that there's going to

827
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 7: be an issue at this place, so you have to

828
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 7: find creative ways to run either way, you know.

829
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 5: So that's a that's a real challenge.

830
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 7: So we just got better getting Derek Brown back and

831
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 7: having him be out there.

832
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 5: You know.

833
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 7: But it's not just about his ability, it's about his character.

834
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 7: It's about how he practices the strain that he plays with.

835
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 7: He's the energizer. Bunny he's sidelined a sideline as big

836
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 7: as he is. He chases things down and gets there

837
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 7: in a bad mood and you just can't move him.

838
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 7: So that's a big piece of it, you know. But

839
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 7: getting the whole unit to play together, you know, but certainly,

840
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 7: certainly having that mentality back in that in that room

841
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 7: is gonna be helpful.

842
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: Love hearing about that energy this man, Dave Canalis, the

843
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: head coach of the Carolina Panthers, appreciate your energy, that

844
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: you actually like doing this with us, So thank you

845
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: for joining us.

846
00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

847
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: All Right, we are here with Ryan Poles, the general

848
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: manager of the Chicago Bears, a popular man here in

849
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: a crowded convention center in Indianapolis. I'm going through the

850
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: cap space. I'm a dork, I like, you know, checking

851
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: out the cap space, and I want to ask you

852
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: a theoretical question to get to get going here. You

853
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: have seventy nine million dollars in cap space right now,

854
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: according to over the cap Do you think there is

855
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: such a thing as too much cap space?

856
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 8: No?

857
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: No, no, no.

858
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 8: You want as much flexibility as possible.

859
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: But don't you want to be like sometimes I find

860
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: there's almost more cap space sometimes than great players to

861
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: spend the cap space on. So as a general manager

862
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of how do you balance that short and long

863
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: term in terms of being able to spend that cap space?

864
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you know, you can usually start off

865
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 9: with a quarterback position and where you are there and

866
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 9: build from there. But yeah, having the flexibility to acquire

867
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 9: players to bring on your roster. But I think the

868
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 9: other important piece that we don't really talk about that

869
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 9: much is is extending and paying the guys that are

870
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 9: on your roster, and we should have some opportunities to

871
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 9: do both of those things this year. So the flexibility

872
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 9: has been great. And I got to give a lot

873
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 9: of credit to Matt Feinstein, who's are just promoted to

874
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 9: VP of Football Operations our administration for setting us up

875
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 9: well and making sure that we're thoughtful in the way

876
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 9: that we spend how we do our contracts, both short

877
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 9: term and long term. So it's helped us be in

878
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 9: this position to keep going.

879
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: How do you guys talk as a staff about combinations,

880
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: Because obviously you guys always like to add and develop

881
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: in the draft, and you have done that. You also

882
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: always like to bring in key pieces one or two

883
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: that really can supplement that young core as well. How

884
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: do you talk about combinations? How do you I guess

885
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 3: how do you argue too about combinations?

886
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, we go around and around and different philosophies on

887
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 9: how to build a roster. Obviously, you would love to

888
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 9: always go through the draft and develop your own players,

889
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 9: but there's gonna be opportunities that pop up where there's

890
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 9: certain teams that have situations where they're kind of maxed

891
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 9: out based on having a veteran quarterback on the roster

892
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 9: that they have to make tough decisions, and that brings

893
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 9: up opportunities for us that have cap space to bring

894
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 9: those players on.

895
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 8: So you want to be strategic with it.

896
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 9: I think the big thing is making sure you know

897
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 9: what type of player you're getting because you don't get

898
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 9: to do the research that you do while you're at

899
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 9: the combat. You can't sit down and talk to them,

900
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 9: so there is some risk there, so previous relationships and

901
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 9: also some research along the way to make sure you're bringing.

902
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 8: The right type of guys that fit your culture.

903
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: I think that's so interesting because you also have a

904
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: brand new perspective via Ben coming in sort of a

905
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: fresh set of eyes on not just you guys's processes,

906
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: the collaborative efforts as well, but also just his relationships

907
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: with players and these people that he knows what has

908
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: that been like onboarding him, but also I imagine he's

909
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: looking at different parts of of y'all's process with a

910
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: brand new set of eyes on it.

911
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been really good.

912
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 9: Anytime you can add a different and make those tweaks

913
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 9: and changes to make your process even better, it's critical

914
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 9: to growth and make sure that you you you know,

915
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 9: you're keeping up with the times and you're also staying

916
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 9: open mind on how you do things. One thing that

917
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 9: we do what I'm proud of is any new staff

918
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 9: member that comes in, Uh, we do a cohabitation report,

919
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 9: so that player goes through all of let's you say,

920
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 9: all the players in free agency that they've touched and

921
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 9: that could be over the last three, four or five years,

922
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 9: and they do a one or two liner to just

923
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 9: give us some more information about the players that we

924
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 9: could potentially bring in the building.

925
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of the guys that are are on

926
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: my top one oh one free agents list. Uh, you

927
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: know we're coached up by by Ben Johnson last year

928
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler. So that sort of brings a question. I

929
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: can almost hear the Bears fans in my life like

930
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: at you know, saying, ask them about the offensive line.

931
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: You haven't spent a lot in free agency, not that

932
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: you haven't brought in free agents in the past, but

933
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: you've built a little more through the draft. On the

934
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: offensive line. You have, you know, three guys that were

935
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: playing starting snaps last year that are free agency. Do

936
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: you think you'll push a little more in free agency

937
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: with the offensive line this year?

938
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think there's a good opportunity for us to

939
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 9: do that. You know, when you look at our interior,

940
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 9: there's some space there where I think we can move

941
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 9: the needle and get our team to take the next step. Obviously,

942
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 9: when you do that, you get added protection in the

943
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 9: past game, but I think more importantly running the ball efficiently,

944
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 9: which creates balance, and we all know when you get

945
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 9: to the backside of the season December January February, the

946
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 9: ability to run the ball is critical. So we'll be

947
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 9: taking a hard look at that spot.

948
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: I think an underrated and probably not spoken about as

949
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: much element of finding those guys is the partnerships and

950
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: the relationships that you have to the players have to

951
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: learn each other to with the center quarterback, Those guys

952
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: have to learn each other just as much as you

953
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: have to project what will be the right fit. Yeah,

954
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: so what kind of center does Caleb Williams need in

955
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: his life right now? Like what qualities do you think

956
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: are best partnered with him? Because that could be a

957
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: ten year relationship if it works.

958
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

959
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 8: No, it's important.

960
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 9: I start with overall just intelligence, and that can come

961
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 9: in different ways.

962
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 8: You know, if you were to go through the draft process,

963
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 8: that player has to have.

964
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 9: A great understanding of the game of defenses and be

965
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 9: a high end communicator to get everything lined up as

966
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 9: much as possible. If you go the route of free agency,

967
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 9: that command up front is going to be critical. The

968
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 9: more you can take off young quarterbacks play at the

969
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 9: lone of scrimmage, the faster that they can play and

970
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 9: make their decisions, which is important. So we'll be looking

971
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 9: at both both of those things on both the draft

972
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 9: and for agency.

973
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're a former alignment. I don't need to

974
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: tell you that. It is hard to know.

975
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: I saw I'm kind of light up a little bit

976
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 3: when we were like, oh, oh line, here we go. Hard.

977
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 4: It is hard every year I make that list.

978
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: It is hard to find offensive linement in free agency

979
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: just because they are that value.

980
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: You have one.

981
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw up just a couple of your

982
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: free agent names at you. Just Tevin Jenkins is a

983
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: guy who's played a lot for you, and then Keenan Allen.

984
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: Kind of where are you at with maybe trying to

985
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: retain those two guys this year?

986
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, So that's part of the combine process. We're gonna

987
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 9: spend time with their reps and and clear that up

988
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 9: with them in terms of direction.

989
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 8: There's a lot of different factors.

990
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 9: There's there's money, there's age, there's durability, things like that.

991
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 9: So we'll make sure we get with them and get

992
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 9: a clear picture on how we're going to move forward.

993
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: At the same time, you guys will be interviewing prospects.

994
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: And again, it's kind of I kind of love this

995
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: when you have a new head coach because you learn

996
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: a lot about each other in a tiny room very quickly.

997
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: Right And I know you went through the interview process

998
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: and you know him pretty well already, But what if

999
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: you learned about Ben how does he interview players?

1000
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: What what do you like about it?

1001
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: What might you say yeah, that we can't see that,

1002
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: we don't know about.

1003
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 4: That, A little extra.

1004
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 3: Chip watch, little chip watch on the shoulder, I think.

1005
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I talked about that there was a weird narrative

1006
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 9: before that he didn't have a lot of juice and

1007
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 9: he was just kind of a smart guy that would

1008
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 9: sit in the corner that is not even close to

1009
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 9: being the truth. He's got a lot of energy. But

1010
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 9: what I like about just the interview process with the

1011
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 9: players or you know, talking strategy on how to put

1012
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 9: a team together or even building a staff. He's very,

1013
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 9: very thoughtful and strategic on how he wants to do it.

1014
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 9: He values the team dynamics of the chemistry of how

1015
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 9: everything is going to work together. But in these interviews,

1016
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 9: I think also coming from the offensive coordinator's position, you know,

1017
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 9: we did some defensive guys yesterday, he took a step

1018
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 9: back and just let Dennis and our position coaches do

1019
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 9: their things so we all can learn, you know, about

1020
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 9: the player and what he knows and.

1021
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 8: What he doesn't know.

1022
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: And I liked that energy. I liked that he was

1023
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: calling people out by name. Oh absolutely far into certain

1024
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: coaching trees, by dynamic and yeah.

1025
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: I loved it.

1026
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: It were so easy in the media, just give us

1027
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: a little red meat. Like after seeing him, I was like,

1028
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: he is not what I heard. It is absolutely great

1029
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: and so kind of thinking about that him as the

1030
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: Barts head coach. It's interesting because you've been there since

1031
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: twenty two and he is a new head coach, and

1032
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: sometimes when there's a new head coach, you have a

1033
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: little bit of a timeline of Okay, we're going to

1034
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: give this guy a little time to contend and compete.

1035
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: But you're in a very competitive vision statistically one of

1036
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: the best of all of all time. How do you

1037
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: see your timeline and his timeline meeting up and are

1038
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: you guys ready to go win that division this year?

1039
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 9: To compete to go win it? Yeah, And he talked

1040
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 9: about that in the opener. We're going to get after

1041
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 9: it and really not afraid of that at all.

1042
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 5: Man.

1043
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 9: We believe we have the pieces to compete fast. And

1044
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 9: it's a beautiful thing because he's from in the division

1045
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 9: and he knows what it looks like.

1046
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 8: So we're excited to get started, all right.

1047
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles, general manager of the Chicago Bears, just has

1048
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, one of the most loyal, best fan bases

1049
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: in the entire world. You've got their hearts in your hand.

1050
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: Good luck to you this week. Thank you so much,

1051
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, that.

1052
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 4: Was a lot of fun.

1053
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I love being back in the Combine mix. First time

1054
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: I've been here in three years, and I hope we

1055
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: can do this again. And yeah, I loved Jason Light

1056
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: holding my feet to the fire and doing some quick

1057
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: math getting on me for like you gave us a

1058
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: five ten percent chance and when I was like, yeah,

1059
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: that's fair, I mean that's like you're one of six

1060
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: or seven teams that would have been that high.

1061
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 3: It was everything, and listeners, I would encourage you to

1062
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: go check that one out specifically on YouTube because Greg's

1063
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: reaction when Jason Light caught him in like almost mid

1064
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: sentence was just it was everything.

1065
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 2: It was so good. It was awesome.

1066
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: This is my eighth Combine. This is probably the most

1067
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: fun so far that I've had with you, Greg.

1068
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 8: It's been awesome.

1069
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you to all our friends at ihart who

1070
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: have helped us with the week, and obviously Eric Roberts

1071
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: and Chris Babona back in Los Angeles editing in it

1072
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: and making it look great. We will have one more

1073
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: show from Indianapolis. It's me and Nate Ty starting to

1074
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: look ahead to some of the combine drills and yeah,

1075
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: we actually will have our first night of combine drills

1076
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: to start recapping. That's all gonna start. So really excited

1077
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: for that. And I guess once we said football was

1078
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: back last episode, dost mean it stays back?

1079
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 4: We can't go back. I guess it's back. We'll see

1080
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 4: you Friday