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Speaker 2: Welcome in What's Right with Nick Great Episode two sixty two,
Speaker 2: and I Am going to do my best to keep
Speaker 2: this to an hour. We have at least three hours
Speaker 2: worth of topics. We have to recap our week one gambling,
Speaker 2: We have to do our Week two gambling. I told
Speaker 2: you today I was gonna wait until today to talk
Speaker 2: about the Tyreek Kill stuff because I was hoping that
Speaker 2: in the hours and hours taken up by the Tyree
Speaker 2: Kill conversation, someone else would make some of the obvious points. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I'm yet to see them, So I'll take that responsibility.
Speaker 2: We have that to do. Also, funny little story before
Speaker 2: we get started to Monsday. So, as you guys know,
Speaker 2: laur Reys, our former social media person, got a big
Speaker 2: time job and left the company, and so we have
Speaker 2: a new social media person for this show for first
Speaker 2: things first, for all of it. And so one of
Speaker 2: the things they need because I don't post show clips
Speaker 2: to my Instagram is my Instagram log in. Right, So
Speaker 2: yesterday I realize I don't have my Instagram log in.
Speaker 2: I don't know my Instagram password, and I it's on
Speaker 2: my phone, but I don't know what the password is.
Speaker 2: And for some reason, maybe because I'm verified, I don't
Speaker 2: know that I can't go through the regular steps of
Speaker 2: figuring out how to get my password back. They're like,
Speaker 2: you got to reach out to Instagram directly.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I was just like, you know, I don't like
Speaker 2: it is gonna be a pain in the ass. Do
Speaker 2: I really want? Uh? You know, do I want to
Speaker 2: go through these things? And I'm like, no, let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and figure it out. Uh. And so I thought,
Speaker 2: and but then so they email Instagram. It's got to
Speaker 2: do this. I gotta do all these other things. I
Speaker 2: gotta come up with a new email address, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Little did I know as I was going through that
Speaker 2: that whatever headaches I was dealing with on Instagram, we're
Speaker 2: gonna pale in comparison to some of my sports media
Speaker 2: colleagues and friends from yesterday. I don't even get a
Speaker 2: silver medal for Instagram issues from yesterday. Uh shout I well,
Speaker 2: my goodness, gracious, what a what a what a kerv fluff?
Speaker 2: Wile we found we find ourselves in good? You know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I am not I am. I have made
Speaker 2: multiple decisions for good or for bad about this show
Speaker 2: and about things we will and won't talk about. Uh.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't always lead to the quickest or biggest
Speaker 2: growth or no pun intended virality. But I do at
Speaker 2: times feel like this is you know, I'm kind of
Speaker 2: gonna be the tortoise that wins the race. Like I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna let everybody else. Oh wait, what happened? Wait?
Speaker 2: Why is he? Wait? Isn't it like eight in the
Speaker 2: morning in Los Angeles? What's going on all right? Now
Speaker 2: to the show? Uh, here's what missed the cut? NFL
Speaker 2: breaks viewership records. The Vikings reportedly felt bad for Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: and I asked them to put this in their folks,
Speaker 2: please stop asking terrible questions so they put this on
Speaker 2: the internet. Please. This is a note to my colleagues
Speaker 2: in sports media. So, demons, I think you will agree
Speaker 2: with me here. So over the last eighteen to twenty
Speaker 2: four months, sports twitter has just bec It's become even
Speaker 2: more of a cesspool of inaccurately or unfairly clipped short
Speaker 2: videos and then some of those faceless, nameless aggregation accounts
Speaker 2: will post the video and be like people are saying
Speaker 2: dot dot dot and it was. There were three things
Speaker 2: that happened this weekend that it went viral thanks to
Speaker 2: one of the mL Football or JKA Football or one
Speaker 2: of these one of those faceless, nameless accounts that were
Speaker 2: three second or less clips. One Aaron Rodgers already ignoring
Speaker 2: that Hackett because of a second and a half of
Speaker 2: Hackett talking to him and Rogers looking to the side.
Speaker 2: Another one was is Joel Botonio. I think it was
Speaker 2: won't accept a hand from Deshaun Watson because in the
Speaker 2: moment of him trying, like trying to get up off
Speaker 2: the field, it looks like he didn't take Deshaun's hand. Oh,
Speaker 2: and the other one was Joe Burrow can't hold a
Speaker 2: water bottle. People are talking, Okay, all right, these are
Speaker 2: all dumb. Here is what I need to stop happening. Folks,
Speaker 2: stop asking the athletes about the dumb things. Fake people
Speaker 2: on the internet turned into a story the guy on
Speaker 2: McAfee who wears I think a cowboy hat. I don't
Speaker 2: know his name. I think he's a Patriots fan. He
Speaker 2: was like Aaron. People on the internet are saying you
Speaker 2: and he are already on the outs. Aaron has to
Speaker 2: respond to Sean, who I have no sympathy for in
Speaker 2: a million things, but he all of a sudden has
Speaker 2: to respond to this like, oh, people are you in
Speaker 2: this offensive lineman? Have an issue? And Joe Burrow someone
Speaker 2: asked Joe Burrow yesterday, can you pick up a water bottle?
Speaker 2: Guys stop taking these faceless, nameless aggregator accounts and bringing
Speaker 2: them and their faux controversy for engagement farming to the
Speaker 2: to the news conferences. I beg of you. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: just my little medium minute for everyone out there. Just
Speaker 2: because it's it's getting a lot of shares on Elon
Speaker 2: Musk's propaganda machine does not mean that Joe Burrow has
Speaker 2: to answer whether or not he can pick up a
Speaker 2: water bottle. The guy played a full football game. Now
Speaker 2: is his risk one hundred percent healthy? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Can he throw the ball sixty yards? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Am I pretty confident that the guy can pick up
Speaker 2: a water bottle with his throwing hand that I saw
Speaker 2: him throw thirty passes with. Yeah, I'm pretty confident of that.
Speaker 2: These people, we're just getting dumber and dumber by the day. Demons,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he he did struggle to pick it up a
Speaker 4: little bit. I'm not, oh my god, not you too.
Speaker 2: He did not struggle pick up a water bottle. You guys,
Speaker 2: you're just oh my god. Uh. The worst thing, one
Speaker 2: of the worst developments over the last five years is
Speaker 2: people being able to make money off Twitter. You thought
Speaker 2: it'd be just like, oh, creators are gonna be able
Speaker 2: to create content. No, I'm near. It's not like there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of people that were like struggling painters who
Speaker 2: are now like painting, showed to putting up videos of
Speaker 2: themselves painting. They're like, now I can pay rent. No,
Speaker 2: it's none of that. Instead, it's just these faceless aggregator
Speaker 2: accounts saying putting up a video that was like, man, uh,
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase is washed and it's a video of Tyler
Speaker 2: Boyd from three years ago and they just put that up.
Speaker 2: So people are like, that's not even Jamar Chase, that's
Speaker 2: not from yesterday, and it's so infuriating. All right, demand
Speaker 2: speaking of Jamar Chase and the Bengals, let's get the
Speaker 2: Chiefs of Angles. Hey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Kansas City is looking very dominant with that
Speaker 4: new additioning Xavier Worthy. Cincinnati, on the other hand, struggling,
Speaker 4: Chase is still ramping up. You got Higgins hurt, and
Speaker 4: Burrow seems to be a little deemed up. I don't
Speaker 4: know what's going on there. Yeah, but you.
Speaker 2: Know what the producers putting there. You know what the
Speaker 2: I didn't even see this, the producers putting the script.
Speaker 2: And Burrow can't hold a water bottle. My god, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be the last I'm gonna be the last sane
Speaker 2: person in America. But go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so last week you said Cincinnati could lose Week
Speaker 4: two to Kansas City and still feel confident in the
Speaker 4: off season in January, but after an embarrassing loss of
Speaker 4: the Patriots. Yeah, but after an embarrassing loss of the Patriots,
Speaker 4: and we one, do you think that's still the case?
Speaker 2: I think it's still the case. And the Mangles are
Speaker 2: used to going oho and two and I I'm annoyed
Speaker 2: by the Joe Burrow coverage this week. It's folks are acting,
Speaker 2: I think, dumber than they are when it comes. And
Speaker 2: I'm a Chiefs guy, right, I should dislike Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: but I don't. I should dislike the Bengals, I kind
Speaker 2: of do. But I is this guy's other than Joe Burrow?
Speaker 2: A literally, who's the guy Yesterday's like, yes, Savy, you're worthing,
Speaker 2: just run straight, Okay, we'll see but regardless, But folks
Speaker 2: are acting as if it's illogical that Joe Burrow is
Speaker 2: getting the benefit of the doubt. And I hear a
Speaker 2: lot of people saying, well, look at his numbers the
Speaker 2: last ten games, what if it were lamar Guys. Here
Speaker 2: is how we have always done sports talk and will
Speaker 2: always do sports talk. If you're a guy who, in
Speaker 2: the biggest moments has not only come through, but has
Speaker 2: beaten your biggest rivals, you are going to get more
Speaker 2: margin for error than guys who haven't. Oh, keep that
Speaker 2: same energy for Joe Burrow you would keep for Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Yet we would except for the case that Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: against Alan and Mahomes in the playoffs is two to one,
Speaker 2: including a blowout victory over Allan and has played well
Speaker 2: in all of those games, and Alan against Mahomes and
Speaker 2: Burrow in the playoffs is zero to four. That's why
Speaker 2: we're not quote keeping the same energy. And when it
Speaker 2: comes to Lamar, we have seen Joe Burrow be excellent
Speaker 2: in multiple playoff runs and we've never seen it from Lamar. Now,
Speaker 2: the further away we get from those playoff runs, the
Speaker 2: less that margin of error or benefit of the doubt exists.
Speaker 2: But we are just one year removed from it. Last
Speaker 2: year they didn't make the playoffs, he was hurt, So
Speaker 2: we're a year in a game removed from it. So
Speaker 2: I just I don't understand why it would be as
Speaker 2: if let me try to think of a cross conference example.
Speaker 2: Let's say Matt Stafford started, you know, had struggled for
Speaker 2: a month, and folks were like, man, you don't have
Speaker 2: to keep that same energy you have for Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: for Matt Stafford. It's like, well, I don't know. We
Speaker 2: saw him win a super Bowl and be awesome, and
Speaker 2: we've seen the other guy struggle come the postseason, Like
Speaker 2: that is how we do sports talk. Oh, man, keep
Speaker 2: that same energy you have for Joe l embiid for
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, Like, no, I won't, Actually I won't. I
Speaker 2: won't keep that same energy and I won't feel badly
Speaker 2: about it. And so this this all of a sudden
Speaker 2: revisionist history of man, maybe Joe Burrow wasn't that good
Speaker 2: all along? What the hell are you guys want talking
Speaker 2: about now? Is there a legitimate concern that this super
Speaker 2: rare wrist injury is going to change his trajectory? Demon say,
Speaker 2: I think you have that concern that he doesn't, that
Speaker 2: he is still legitimately hurt and the great Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: is not coming back certainly this Sunday or maybe not
Speaker 2: this year. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I saw that the injury was super were
Speaker 4: I don't think the quarterbacks ever gotten it before, so
Speaker 4: they don't really know how to gauge it. So it
Speaker 4: is kind of tricky so to speak.
Speaker 2: So that to me is fair that to me of saying, oh,
Speaker 2: should we be worried about his ability to get back
Speaker 2: to himself this season, that's fair. But last year, and again,
Speaker 2: sometimes I think people can't even remember the forget things
Speaker 2: that happened a long time ago, things that happened recently.
Speaker 2: Last year, Joe Burrow was coming off the best season
Speaker 2: of his career forty four hundred yards thirty five touchdowns,
Speaker 2: or the best or second best season of his career
Speaker 2: year two and three. He was awesome, and coming into
Speaker 2: the season he suffered that calf injury and the first
Speaker 2: few games of the year he was awful. And then
Speaker 2: starting Week five, this is what Joe Burrow did, thirteen touchdowns,
Speaker 2: four picks, a one oh seven rating, and then he
Speaker 2: suffered the wrist injury and was done for the year.
Speaker 2: But so last year we saw Joe Burrow not be
Speaker 2: one hundred percent at the beginning of the year, play poorly,
Speaker 2: and then as soon as his started trusting his body
Speaker 2: he got a little healthier, he was excellent again. So
Speaker 2: I again, I don't know what it means for this week.
Speaker 2: Wilds is you know, obviously watched that Patriots Bengals game
Speaker 2: super close, and on Monday morning was sounding that Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow is hurt. Alarm now does that mean. Again, because
Speaker 2: it's such a rare injury for a quarterback, we don't
Speaker 2: really have a context of, Oh, it's gonna take three weeks,
Speaker 2: it's gonna take six weeks. I don't know. Here's what
Speaker 2: I will tell you as a Chiefs fan, this is
Speaker 2: a dangerous game. This team is not afraid of Kansas City,
Speaker 2: and Burrow's not afraid of anybody. And so I think
Speaker 2: the Chiefs will win. And I think that the Chiefs
Speaker 2: beating the Bengals in the Ravens to start the year
Speaker 2: kind of takes a little bit of the zest out
Speaker 2: of the AFC playoff race when in weeks one and
Speaker 2: two the Chiefs are at such a decided edge. Maybe
Speaker 2: it will mean the Texans Demons A your guys, CJ
Speaker 2: will be the team that they're gonna and they do
Speaker 2: play them later in the season. But I am I
Speaker 2: am not looking at how the Bengals played against the
Speaker 2: Patriots as an indication of who they actually are going
Speaker 2: to be this season. And I think there has been
Speaker 2: massive overreaction to that Week one game. Go ahead, if
Speaker 2: you go ahead, if you want to follow us on
Speaker 2: anything there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, So if Kansas if Kansas City wins this week.
Speaker 4: Do you see them and San Francisco but being undefeated
Speaker 4: by the time their Week seven matchup comes up?
Speaker 2: All right, So I don't think the Niners are gonna
Speaker 2: be Let me look at the Niners schedule the I
Speaker 2: don't think the Niners are gonna be undefeated come Week seven,
Speaker 2: but let me see who they have. So they're at
Speaker 2: the Vikings this week. We'll talk about that more later.
Speaker 2: At the Rams. That Rams game looked very tough, but
Speaker 2: the Rams are so banged up. Home for the Patriots,
Speaker 2: home for the Cardinals, at the Seahawks.
Speaker 4: They could I think.
Speaker 2: The they could be but six. Like, I think they're
Speaker 2: probably five and one. I don't have a specific loss
Speaker 2: to pick for you, but I think they're probably five
Speaker 2: and one for the Chiefs. They have an early buye,
Speaker 2: so home for the Bengals, then at the Falcons, at
Speaker 2: the Chargers, home for the Saints. They should be five
Speaker 2: and zero. At the Chargers is gonna be a sneaky,
Speaker 2: tough one because Harball is just gonna try to run
Speaker 2: the ball forty five times and not He's not going
Speaker 2: to fall in the track. So many people fall into
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs which is, oh, we're down seven, now
Speaker 2: we have to abandon the run. It's not going to
Speaker 2: do that. He'll just keep doing it. And even though
Speaker 2: in the Chiefs, run defense, in my opinion, is a potential.
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are the best team in football,
Speaker 2: but if we were ranking their strengths, I think run
Speaker 2: defense is probably the lowest on that list. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go to Caleb and CJ.
Speaker 4: So Caleb's debut wasn't great. He obviously had ninety three yards.
Speaker 4: But this week he's playing up against CJ. Stroud and
Speaker 4: the Texans. I think he's got a lot riding on
Speaker 4: this one. I think he needs this game. So do
Speaker 4: you think he'll pull it off? Or well, you need
Speaker 4: to fire up the excuses you only give Trevor Lawrence machine.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Trevor's in year four, so it is fair
Speaker 2: to start holding him to just a regular standard, not
Speaker 2: a young player, not of this like the you've got
Speaker 2: to like Trevor is damn near. He's on his second
Speaker 2: he just got his second contract. The you know he is.
Speaker 2: And I if Trevor had played poorly in Week one,
Speaker 2: I'd have told you I thought he played well in
Speaker 2: Week one I thought the Jags created a way to
Speaker 2: lose the idea that we are going to do.
Speaker 4: Uh oh.
Speaker 2: Huge game for Caleb in his trajectory in the second
Speaker 2: game of his career is of course silly and ridiculous,
Speaker 2: but I will take some ownership for it because I
Speaker 2: did pick them to go to the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 2: I have been putting him on Mahomes Mountain for two
Speaker 2: years and I'm here to tell you he's gonna play excellent.
Speaker 2: Now I'm a little roma doonsay is probably not gonna
Speaker 2: play and Keenan Allen didn't practice on Wednesday, so we
Speaker 2: do it that. We talked about how many weapons the
Speaker 2: Bears have. If two of their top three receivers are out,
Speaker 2: that could be tough. But I I am really amazed
Speaker 2: by how many people, despite watching this player in college,
Speaker 2: after a rough first game of his career, they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: pump the breaks. I will not pump the breaks. I won't.
Speaker 2: I brought this up the other day, but John Elway
Speaker 2: in the first game of his career was one for
Speaker 2: eight for fifteen yards with an interception no touchdowns. Peyton
Speaker 2: Manning in the first game of his career, threw three
Speaker 2: picks we can go. I think Troy Aikman, and who's
Speaker 2: the other guy that I used as a more recent example.
Speaker 2: I can't even think of it. I used it on
Speaker 2: the show. But it doesn't matter. I Caleb is going
Speaker 2: to be exceptional, and the worst game Caleb plays all
Speaker 2: year is going to have been that Week One game.
Speaker 2: He thought he was going to be more escapable than
Speaker 2: he was. I think he got a little flustered. I
Speaker 2: think there were real butterflies, which is why I am
Speaker 2: so optimistic for this week because they won despite that,
Speaker 2: so he didn't really hasn't really had to deal with
Speaker 2: too much backlash for an awful Week one game because
Speaker 2: the team won anyway, and he can learn from it.
Speaker 2: So listen, the Texans are excellent, and this game is
Speaker 2: in Chicago. I the weather's supposed to be good. I
Speaker 2: think calebill have over two hundred yards. I think he'll
Speaker 2: have a couple of touchdowns. I think he'll have his
Speaker 2: first turnover. Like if I were to project a Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams stat line for this game, it would be two
Speaker 2: hundred and forty total yards, two touchdowns, one pick or
Speaker 2: one lost fumble, one turnover is what I would say.
Speaker 2: I don't think that it is fair or anything we've
Speaker 2: ever done to even a number one overall pick quarterback
Speaker 2: to say, hey, second game of your career playing a
Speaker 2: guy A lot of people think is the league MVP
Speaker 2: this year or their pick for League MVP? Go out
Speaker 2: play them? And so now do I think it's I
Speaker 2: was asking this yesterday on TV. Let me ask you this, Demons,
Speaker 2: because you love CJ. But I don't think you're anti Caleb.
Speaker 2: If only these are the only two options, So door
Speaker 2: one or door two, there's there's no other possibilities. Caleb
Speaker 2: duplicates what he did in Week one, just can't complete
Speaker 2: a pass, can't nothing downfield, you know, around one hundred yards,
Speaker 2: or Caleb outplays CJ on Sunday? What do you think
Speaker 2: is more likely of those two?
Speaker 4: I'd have to go with him now playing him, But
Speaker 4: I don't think you.
Speaker 2: Don't think that's gonna happen, right, So that's so that's
Speaker 2: what I purely because maybe one's a five percent chance
Speaker 2: and one's an eight percent chance, with a vast majority
Speaker 2: of outcomes being somewhere between. He's better than he was
Speaker 2: last Sunday, but not as good as CJ's going to
Speaker 2: be this Sunday, that to me is the more likely.
Speaker 2: But if you can only pick one of those two
Speaker 2: and everyone wild's Brew and Greg all disagreed with me.
Speaker 2: They act like they act like it was insane for
Speaker 2: me to say that Caleb could do that. So I
Speaker 2: guess we'll see. I'm super excited for it.
Speaker 4: These are those going speaking of the comparisons, who would
Speaker 4: you start your franchise with? Between Caleb and Stroud?
Speaker 2: So listen, I think this will make people mad, but
Speaker 2: I think it's totally reasonable. I would I would pick
Speaker 2: Caleb because I think Caleb is going to be the
Speaker 2: second best quarterback in the league behind mahone Homes in
Speaker 2: a few years. I but that. And let me put
Speaker 2: it like this, if you were to ask me before
Speaker 2: the season started, if I could have Caleb or CJ
Speaker 2: moving forward, who would I pick? I would have said Caleb.
Speaker 2: So changing that opinion because of one game would mean
Speaker 2: it wasn't even actually an opinion, It's just something I said.
Speaker 2: Like and now, So if for me, the starting a
Speaker 2: franchise moving forward rankings, I think the top four has
Speaker 2: to be Mahomes, Alan, Caleb, CJ in that order. That's
Speaker 2: that's the four I would have the And the reason
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is not on there is because even if
Speaker 2: this risk injury get you know, is healed by Sunday,
Speaker 2: he is had so many injuries and he's older that
Speaker 2: I can't, you know, I can't have him ahead of
Speaker 2: any of those four guys. But that's you know, that
Speaker 2: that would be my list.
Speaker 4: So it's.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just if I were starting a franchise today.
Speaker 2: So Mahomes isn't old enough to where it's like, well,
Speaker 2: he's the best, but how long am I gonna get him?
Speaker 2: You're gonna get Mahmes for another ten twelve years. Same
Speaker 2: with Josh Allen, and then after that it gets trickier
Speaker 2: after that, Where does Lamar fall in? Where does Trevor
Speaker 2: fall in? For me? I understand, maybe not for others.
Speaker 2: You know, I assuredly would probably take Anthony Richardson higher
Speaker 2: than most people because I'm just so fascinated by the guy,
Speaker 2: you know, So there's but yeah, so I to me,
Speaker 2: CJ would be one of my top four picks, but
Speaker 2: Caleb would be just ahead of them, all right, next.
Speaker 4: All right, then you gave props to the Lions after
Speaker 4: the big overtime win versus Ram. Now they've got their
Speaker 4: playoff rematch versus Baker and the Bucks. Baker's moved ahead
Speaker 4: of the Prince and Caleb O. Maholmes Mountain. If Baker
Speaker 4: proves it again this week, where is his ceiling this year?
Speaker 2: So let me say this on the front end, I'm
Speaker 2: really worried about the Bucks this week because of their
Speaker 2: secondary injuries. I mean, so they lost Antoine Winfield's hurt.
Speaker 2: Three corners are hurt. So I do like the Bucks,
Speaker 2: and they played the Lions relatively tough in the playoffs
Speaker 2: last year. But whenever you have cluster injuries, it's to
Speaker 2: what actually happened to the Rams in their game against
Speaker 2: the Lions. They suffered these cluster offensive line injuries and
Speaker 2: they're just cooked. The Bucks secondary concerns me now Baker.
Speaker 2: I mean, Baker's going on now a half season from
Speaker 2: the second half of last year year, or this last
Speaker 2: quarter of last year into the playoffs to week one
Speaker 2: of a level football. Now, do I think the Bucks
Speaker 2: can win a Super Bowl? I don't do. I think
Speaker 2: the Bucks should be respected a little bit more by
Speaker 2: the general public. I do, But I think these injuries
Speaker 2: against the Lions and a Ben Johnson offense that that
Speaker 2: does concern me for this week, and it's one of
Speaker 2: the reasons the Bucks plus seven and a half is
Speaker 2: not going to be one of my picks, even though
Speaker 2: I think Baker is proving to be one of the
Speaker 2: more underrated players in the league. What's up. You look
Speaker 2: concerned about something, demands.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's nothing. I didn't know they have that
Speaker 4: many injuries in the secondary. It's just piqued my interest,
Speaker 4: that's all.
Speaker 2: Was this part of maybe a Demons hit.
Speaker 4: It might be somewhere, It might be somewhere.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, all right, well it's not set
Speaker 2: in stone yet. The bets aren't made, so maybe we
Speaker 2: can discuss it. I'm not going to try to push
Speaker 2: you in any direction. And I gave you bad teaser
Speaker 2: advice last week because last week, had you listen to me,
Speaker 2: you would have had the Bengals teas down to minus
Speaker 2: two and a half and they lost out right, So
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I gave you bad
Speaker 2: teaser advice. Process, all right, So let's go on to
Speaker 2: the next thing if we can.
Speaker 4: I'll see the Bills are going to Miami to play
Speaker 4: the Dolphins. Buffalo or the raginning September champions. They're always
Speaker 4: getting the dubs in September. Allen is ten and two
Speaker 4: against the Dolphins as well. Miami's dealing with injuries and
Speaker 4: also the unfortunate Tyreek Hill situation. You called this the
Speaker 4: most important game for the Dolphins this year, So how
Speaker 4: do they rally?
Speaker 2: I don't know that they do. And I'm actually, I
Speaker 2: actually don't want to spend a ton of time on
Speaker 2: this game right here, because this game is going to
Speaker 2: be one of my picks coming up in the B block,
Speaker 2: so I just kind of be redundant. But the reason
Speaker 2: what I'll say is the reason I called it the
Speaker 2: most important game on their schedule is it is very,
Speaker 2: very hard to believe you can win the division if
Speaker 2: you don't at least split with Buffalo and you play
Speaker 2: Buffalo in their building in November. So getting them in
Speaker 2: your building on a short week in September is as
Speaker 2: close to a must win as you can have. Like
Speaker 2: Miami's path to being a real contender is the win
Speaker 2: the division, get at least one, maybe two playoff games
Speaker 2: in Florida, not have to deal with the snow or
Speaker 2: the frigid weather as much as possible, So they've got
Speaker 2: to win this game. Now do I think they're going
Speaker 2: to win this game? We'll discuss that in picks. But
Speaker 2: I said on Tuesday, I was gonna wait to talk
Speaker 2: about the Tyreek thing, and I'm gonna try to see
Speaker 2: if I can do this in five or six minutes,
Speaker 2: because I tend to go too long on these things sometimes,
Speaker 2: and I've heard a lot of people talk about this,
Speaker 2: and not to be rude, it has felt a lot
Speaker 2: like stuff we've already talked about and everybody knows. And
Speaker 2: it was a little frustrating for me because I think
Speaker 2: there are three important, noteworthy angles that either have been
Speaker 2: totally disregarded or brushed over. So I'm gonna try to
Speaker 2: quickly get through all three of those, and I think
Speaker 2: I'll probably surprise some folks with where I stand on
Speaker 2: some of this. And if we're gonna put this on
Speaker 2: the internet, we can probably you know, start it right here,
Speaker 2: all right. So there's three things that came to me
Speaker 2: watching the Tyreek situation. The first one is going to
Speaker 2: be somewhat sympathetic to the police, and the other two
Speaker 2: are not going to be. First one is this, I
Speaker 2: was shocked at how few people recognized or acknowledged why
Speaker 2: cops justifiably are terrified at every traffic stop, and why
Speaker 2: having the windows down and why tinted windows are so
Speaker 2: scary for police officers. Part of the Tyrek thing was
Speaker 2: actually a gun story, even though Tyreek obviously had no gun.
Speaker 2: It is nothing like that. But we have decided as
Speaker 2: a country, and certainly in states like Florida, that everyone
Speaker 2: in anyone's allowed to have a pistol or more. And
Speaker 2: so if you're an officer, walking up on a car
Speaker 2: has to be terrifying, no matter how well trained you are,
Speaker 2: no matter good bad are indifferent because so many people
Speaker 2: have firearms. And so I don't I am I do.
Speaker 2: I think there is way too much you know, kind
Speaker 2: of apologies and people let bad cops off the hook.
Speaker 2: And we'll get to that in a moment. But I
Speaker 2: one part that I just think people fail to think
Speaker 2: about is it is gotta be legitimately heart racing anytime
Speaker 2: an officer has pulled a car over and is walking
Speaker 2: up to the car, particularly in places where obviously these
Speaker 2: guns everywhere, particularly in places where it's to legal for
Speaker 2: almost anyone to have a gun. So I I have
Speaker 2: sympathy in those moments. And it's also why I think,
Speaker 2: as odd as it sounds like the tinted window laws
Speaker 2: are necessary, Like I get that, man, we have made
Speaker 2: the choice that we're just gonna be the wild West
Speaker 2: when it comes to firearms. So that part, that part
Speaker 2: I totally understand. And if it wasn't that, if it
Speaker 2: wasn't for the proliferation of so many people having guns,
Speaker 2: I just don't think there would be instant at almost
Speaker 2: any traffic violation. This real tension and almost anger and
Speaker 2: all of that. So that part I have. I actually
Speaker 2: have sympathy for the other two things, though one is
Speaker 2: a math thing and the other is a uh and
Speaker 2: the other is just how things have to work for
Speaker 2: us to be able to have a cohesive society. The
Speaker 2: number of people who, in their analysis made sure to
Speaker 2: point out, well, Tyreek was rude, Tyreek could have handled
Speaker 2: that better, Tyreek should have you know, And the number
Speaker 2: of people who have just baked into their brains the
Speaker 2: acceptance of, oh, if you give a cop a shitty
Speaker 2: attitude or talk back or don't do exactly what they say,
Speaker 2: you might get roughed up and you're kind of naive
Speaker 2: or dumb if you don't just accept and know that
Speaker 2: is abhorrent. We have done the opposit math on the
Speaker 2: expectations on how police officers should treat the citizenry that
Speaker 2: we need to do, which is we hold them in
Speaker 2: our brain subconsciously to a lower standard than the barista
Speaker 2: at Starbucks, when we should hold them to the highest standard.
Speaker 2: And here is what I mean. You are not allowed
Speaker 2: to assault someone because they're rude to you. And the
Speaker 2: people least allowed to do that, in my eyes, are
Speaker 2: the people who we give the most power to. Any
Speaker 2: cop in America has the ability to ruin any of
Speaker 2: our days at any moment, at a minimum, ruin our day,
Speaker 2: and the ruin our day is the smallest thing and
Speaker 2: could for some people, you know, make them lose their job.
Speaker 2: For some people that real violence for you know, different instances.
Speaker 2: But they're the only people. They're the only people who
Speaker 2: have the unilateral power to prevent you from going about
Speaker 2: your day, detain you, arrest you, cuff you, humiliate you.
Speaker 2: We have given them immense power that no one else
Speaker 2: in the society has. With that power comes a ment responsibility,
Speaker 2: and you have kind of signed up. You gotta take
Speaker 2: more shit with a smile on your face than anyone else.
Speaker 2: And we as a society have just decided, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe that's how it should be, but we know that's
Speaker 2: not how it works. We all kind of know. You
Speaker 2: talk back to the wrong cop, you don't listen to him.
Speaker 2: It's not just that you want to say you don't
Speaker 2: listen to him, and you are gonna get coughed for
Speaker 2: failure to listen to a lawful command. Find so be it.
Speaker 2: But that's not what that was. It was, Well, you
Speaker 2: don't listen to him. We all know somebody there might
Speaker 2: put you in a choke hold, somebody there might need
Speaker 2: you in the back, somebody there might put your face
Speaker 2: down on the pavement, and yeah they shouldn't do it,
Speaker 2: but we all kind of know they might. That's bullshit
Speaker 2: and that's not how this is supposed to go. If
Speaker 2: I go to Starbucks and I walk in there and
Speaker 2: what do you want? Moke, a frap and quick with it, toots. Look, jeez, Louis,
Speaker 2: what do you do? What are you talking to me
Speaker 2: like that? Yeah? I am, I am talking to you
Speaker 2: like that? Quickly, Tom Barista, get a real job. You
Speaker 2: know what nobody thinks is okay for that person to
Speaker 2: come across the counter put me in a choke hold
Speaker 2: and put me face down on the store. No, it's not,
Speaker 2: even though in my mind, actually that would be more
Speaker 2: acceptable than the cop doing it. That's this regular person
Speaker 2: with a regular job. But if I walk up to
Speaker 2: a police officer and say, hey, say some awful things,
Speaker 2: make fun of them, do whatever, kind of bait them,
Speaker 2: and then that cop threw me in cups and threw
Speaker 2: me on the ground, everyone would be like, well, you
Speaker 2: kind of had a coming. That's the opposite of how
Speaker 2: this is supposed to go. When you are a public
Speaker 2: servant with this type of power, there are things that
Speaker 2: you must be better than. And so a lot of
Speaker 2: folks are it just reflexively being like Tyrek should have
Speaker 2: known better. Yes, sure, not his job. Not his job.
Speaker 2: And here's the last point, and this is the one
Speaker 2: that where I'm gonna do some math here, folks, because
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins, in their statement included these words. The
Speaker 2: vast majority of police officers, vast majority, we hear this
Speaker 2: all the time. Whenever there's one of these things. Everyone,
Speaker 2: even the well, we hear two things. We hear the
Speaker 2: police union come out and be like perfect is perfect. Stop,
Speaker 2: I see nothing wrong and you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Of course, fine, But then we hear the people who
Speaker 2: are trying to delicately and lightly criticize the cops, be like,
Speaker 2: we know the vast majority are good, but this guy
Speaker 2: was bad. Okay, let's just do some real statistical regressions here. Okay,
Speaker 2: what do we think? Vast majority means? Majority is fifty
Speaker 2: one percent, So vast majority is that ninety percent? Is
Speaker 2: that ninety percent is the vast majority? Okay, let's call
Speaker 2: it that. So I watched that video. Yeah, there were
Speaker 2: there were escalating levels of badness by a couple officers,
Speaker 2: but nobody stopped it, just like Scotty Shepler think nobody stopped.
Speaker 2: There's five officers there, so if the vast majority of
Speaker 2: police would never do anything like this, but we have
Speaker 2: five involved in doing anything. So what are the odds
Speaker 2: of that? Well, it's ten percent chance that one of
Speaker 2: them would. But now we got to go ten percent
Speaker 2: of ten percent of ten percent of ten percent of
Speaker 2: ten percent. You know what, Let's be kinder. Let's say
Speaker 2: vast majority means eighty percent, so there's a twenty percent chance.
Speaker 2: So let's do the math kids, one of the five
Speaker 2: twenty percent chance, two of the five twenty percent of
Speaker 2: twenty percent. Now we're down to four percent, three of
Speaker 2: the five twenty percent of four percent. Now we're down
Speaker 2: to point eight percent, four of the five twenty percent
Speaker 2: of point eight Now we're down to point two percent,
Speaker 2: five of the five twenty percent of point two percent.
Speaker 2: So now we're down to point oh four percent. Is
Speaker 2: that your guys experience, Is your guys experience that when
Speaker 2: either you have had encounters or when we see these videos,
Speaker 2: that there is a one in twenty five hundred chance
Speaker 2: that if there's five officers around and one starts roughing
Speaker 2: someone up, that none of them will stop it. Do
Speaker 2: you think that to one in twenty five hundred or
Speaker 2: is it more the other way, which is you are
Speaker 2: shocked whenever you see a video and there is one
Speaker 2: cop who is wildly out of control and another officer
Speaker 2: then actually comes in and stops it. And that is
Speaker 2: where I will talk to the police directly, because no,
Speaker 2: I don't hate all cops. No I don't think all
Speaker 2: cops are bad, no, none of that. What I do
Speaker 2: think is this, there is a total inability for the
Speaker 2: cops who want to do the right thing and keep
Speaker 2: the trust of the community and treat people with dignity
Speaker 2: and respect to publicly combat the high school bullies who
Speaker 2: signed up for the job just to be able to
Speaker 2: do exactly what that guy did to Tyreek Hill. There
Speaker 2: is such a culture of protectionism and brotherhood that if
Speaker 2: it is the vast majority wouldn't do that. Those folks
Speaker 2: don't feel able to stop the minority, if we want
Speaker 2: to call it that, that does it, and that is
Speaker 2: a systemic problem. And so I, you know, I said
Speaker 2: put this on the internet. I don't even actually I've
Speaker 2: changed my mind. We don't even have to tweet this out.
Speaker 2: It can be on our YouTube page and people that
Speaker 2: are watching right now can hear it. I don't feel
Speaker 2: like arguing with people. It's an election season, there's all
Speaker 2: the bots. I don't really feel like doing it, but.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is really remarkable to me that we have all
Speaker 2: just kind of come to accept that what happened with
Speaker 2: Tyreek isn't that And folks are like, man, it could
Speaker 2: have gone worse. He's lucky, likely, you know, if he
Speaker 2: weren't Tyreek Hill. And again, general good rule of thumb
Speaker 2: treat people respectfully understand, you know, people you know have
Speaker 2: empathy for others, recognize, oh, maybe he wants my window
Speaker 2: down because he is scared because there is guns. He
Speaker 2: recognized jobs are hard. That is a general good rule
Speaker 2: of thumb to live by for all of us in
Speaker 2: all circumstances. But it is perverse that the people we
Speaker 2: give the biggest leeway to when it comes to getting
Speaker 2: their feelings hurt or offended and reacting with violence are
Speaker 2: the people who should have the least because they are
Speaker 2: the people we give the most power to. That's not
Speaker 2: the way things are supposed to go, and when they
Speaker 2: do go that way, there should be an expert that
Speaker 2: somebody is gonna say, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not what
Speaker 2: we do here. We're here to serve the public good,
Speaker 2: and typically that's not what I see, So that, to
Speaker 2: me should have been the conversation. Instead, we kind of
Speaker 2: had the same old conversations about race and policing, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm wearing the shoes right now. Actually,
Speaker 2: if only there was a famous football player and once
Speaker 2: upon a time tried to talk about race and policing,
Speaker 2: I wonder what would have happened to his career, we
Speaker 2: could have that, and about the respectability of well, just comply,
Speaker 2: just pay attention to the orders and everything will be fine.
Speaker 2: Or are we gonna have real conversation about why cops
Speaker 2: are afraid at traffic stops understandably, about whether or not
Speaker 2: we should hold our police officers to a lower, higher
Speaker 2: or the same standard we would hold a salesperson at
Speaker 2: H and M, And whether or not we we think
Speaker 2: that in order to be considered quote, one of the
Speaker 2: good cops, you have a moral obligation to in real
Speaker 2: time step in when one of the bad cops is
Speaker 2: doing what happened to Tyreek? Just my thoughts are gambling?
Speaker 2: Show next, What's Right? Welcome back? In What's Driving the Great?
Speaker 2: Episode two sixty two, Demanse says to me during the break, Pops,
Speaker 2: you got community noted on Twitter? So I did, so
Speaker 2: this is the So this is the I got an alert.
Speaker 2: One of your tweets has been you know, updated by
Speaker 2: community notes, which is there for like misinformation essentially? Right? Uh?
Speaker 2: And I'm like what the I'm like, impossible because like
Speaker 2: I don't put out fake news, Like what could I
Speaker 2: have gotten community noted for? So I tweeted after the
Speaker 2: Jets opening game. I quote tweeted Wilds about how it's
Speaker 2: now been over one thousand days in twenty four games
Speaker 2: since Aaron Rodgers threw for three hundred yards and I
Speaker 2: wrote for context the last time Aaron Rodgers threw for
Speaker 2: three hundred yards, Dan Campbell had zero wins as the
Speaker 2: Lion's head coach, right, I think I even said it
Speaker 2: on the show on Tuesday. So evidently I was wrong
Speaker 2: by a week. So Dan Campbell got his first win
Speaker 2: December fifth, twenty twelve, and Rogers Last threw for three
Speaker 2: hundred December twelfth, twenty twelve, so or twenty twelve, sorry,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, but I'm gonna get you know on
Speaker 2: my own podcast. So it was it was Rogers Last
Speaker 2: did it December twelfth, twenty twenty one. Campbell's first win
Speaker 2: was fifth, twenty twenty one, So I got so I
Speaker 2: got it off by a week. But of all the
Speaker 2: things to be community noted for, and also like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: They stay stickled, y'all. Now, No, no, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I was I put out a fact it was wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't know the full community note process, but I
Speaker 2: would say is I don't think the facts and information
Speaker 2: on Twitter right now are up to a high enough
Speaker 2: standard where you know Nick Wrights sports tweets that are
Speaker 2: ninety eight percent correct but a little bit off, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? That really does feel like a
Speaker 2: the man we have. We have cleaned this entire house
Speaker 2: so much it's spotless. Time now to dust way when
Speaker 2: in reality you have a toilet overflowing with sewage and
Speaker 2: you've got paint peeling off the walls. Like so, I
Speaker 2: don't know about that, but whatever, all right, let's do
Speaker 2: our week one picks Reek ap demand before I get
Speaker 2: to the games of the week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, uh, you went two and three, just swallow five.
Speaker 4: So he's starting off all right, a little far from
Speaker 4: five to zero. But Kansas City minus three versus Baltimore,
Speaker 4: that was a hit winner.
Speaker 2: That was the winner, And I almost got listened. I
Speaker 2: almost got screwed on it because they were gonna go
Speaker 2: for two if the likely touchdown counts, they go for two,
Speaker 2: and I can't win the bet Green Bay plus two
Speaker 2: and a half at Philly. I like my side of that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I almost got really
Speaker 2: lucky on that one because it looked like for a
Speaker 2: moment Philly might not kick that field goal at the end,
Speaker 2: that they might go for it on fourth down at
Speaker 2: the one yard line, and if they don't get it,
Speaker 2: then they probably just win by two. Since DOWNTI minus
Speaker 2: eight and a half against New England, no chance the
Speaker 2: whole time, Dallas plus two and a half at Cleveland,
Speaker 2: no chance, no doubt the whole time. And then Rams Lions.
Speaker 2: I you know, I would like to open a sports book. No,
Speaker 2: that's not true. I would like there to be a
Speaker 2: sports book out there that has a policy of if
Speaker 2: you bet in the NFL an underdog of greater than
Speaker 2: a field goal and the game goes to overtime, you win.
Speaker 2: Can that be a policy? I had the Rams getting points.
Speaker 2: I had them plus three and a half on our picks.
Speaker 2: I had them plus four and a half in real
Speaker 2: life money. Because the line moved. It's the game's tied
Speaker 2: at the end of sixty minutes, and I lose. So
Speaker 2: many things had to happen for me to lose that one.
Speaker 2: That one's painful. That one was the painful one because
Speaker 2: if the Lions just whatever, it doesn't matter. I lost.
Speaker 2: I'm two and three. Two and three was the story
Speaker 2: of last year. It's not going to be the story
Speaker 2: of this year. Before demon's a go to my picks.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about a couple games that were
Speaker 2: attractive to me, but I couldn't quite pull the trigger.
Speaker 2: So the Raiders getting eight and a half in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: I did like the Raiders side of it, but I
Speaker 2: also work Aidan O'Connell or Gardner Minshew, pardon me against Baltimore.
Speaker 2: It just feels like it could get out of hand.
Speaker 2: But I was. I was flirting with that one. The
Speaker 2: Vikings getting five at home against San Francisco, that there's
Speaker 2: a San Francisco on a short week, a bit of
Speaker 2: a letdown. They're traveling. There are a lot of kind
Speaker 2: of gambling principles that say the Vikings are a pick.
Speaker 2: I should make the one. This is one of my
Speaker 2: problems with sports betting compared to poker, which is in poker,
Speaker 2: even if it doesn't feel right, if I know from
Speaker 2: a kind of systemic standpoint, this is the right move.
Speaker 2: Something I've got. Oh man, I got in up myself.
Speaker 2: Speaking of poker, I have amazing news. I have super
Speaker 2: exciting news. Did you see my tweet? Oh no, I
Speaker 2: forgot to tell you this. Oh me, I am okay.
Speaker 2: Let me give some background. Back in the day, poker heyday,
Speaker 2: there was this show called The Big Game. And the
Speaker 2: concept of the Big Game was you had five poker
Speaker 2: pros and one just civilian who came in and played
Speaker 2: in a six handed game, and the civilian, you know,
Speaker 2: won an entry essentially and would start with a fifty
Speaker 2: grand something like that that they was given to them
Speaker 2: as part of the win, and then whatever money profit
Speaker 2: they made they got to keep. And it was a
Speaker 2: contest about you know, and so you play, you know,
Speaker 2: one hundred couple hundred hands whatever it is, one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty hands against the pros. If you lose, it's
Speaker 2: not your money. If you win, you get to keep it.
Speaker 2: And then there was a big, season long contest all
Speaker 2: of it. So they it was such a cool concept,
Speaker 2: such a cool show. So they brought that back and
Speaker 2: you can you can watch it on the Postars YouTube page.
Speaker 2: So they already did season one, Season two. De Monse
Speaker 2: Rob Gronkowski is one of the players and guess who
Speaker 2: else is? Oh yeah, me, me, buddy, moms me, I'm
Speaker 2: one of the players.
Speaker 4: So you said he was one of the players. I
Speaker 4: thought there was gonna be another player that you were
Speaker 4: playing with. But yes, no, I figured you would.
Speaker 2: Be well, no, it's yeah, so.
Speaker 4: Is he.
Speaker 2: I you know what I'm guessing not, I'm guessing that's
Speaker 2: gonna be I'm guessing that's gonna be the player I target.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, no, So this is uh, it's November,
Speaker 2: so there's a bunch of stuff going on. So I'm
Speaker 2: doing a whole thing. I'm super excited for it. So
Speaker 2: Rock and I will be playing against the loose cannon,
Speaker 2: which is whatever player went you know, gets picked and
Speaker 2: then other pros and people can There's a lot of
Speaker 2: cool stuff happening. Actually, uh because part of me doing it,
Speaker 2: I'm doing stuff with the North American Poker Tour Las
Speaker 2: Vegas with Poker Stars, so that from November first to
Speaker 2: like the tenth, I think there is their main event,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be giving out gold passes, which is
Speaker 2: a pass to the main event, the which is worth
Speaker 2: over five grand flight you know, stays all this stuff
Speaker 2: to get to Vegas. I'm giving those out over the
Speaker 2: next you know, a couple of weeks month or so,
Speaker 2: and a chance to be the person that gets to
Speaker 2: play in that game. So this is Yeah, this literally
Speaker 2: got announced an hour ago, so I've been I've known this. Uh.
Speaker 2: And if you heard me say any of this and
Speaker 2: you were like, oh, I never watched the big game there,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure all of this on Poker Stars YouTube page.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean and when I play will be
Speaker 2: in that first week in November in Vegas against Gronk,
Speaker 2: so I'll I do have to check and see is
Speaker 2: that gonna be embargoed when I say embargoed, Like, can
Speaker 2: I come on here the very next day and say
Speaker 2: if I crushed him? Or do I have to wait
Speaker 2: till it airs. I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2: I do know that if you wanna that, just I'll
Speaker 2: be tweeting more about this, tweeting and instagramming, because again
Speaker 2: I do, I still have my Instagram, uh, tweeting and
Speaker 2: instagramming about it. But yeah, for your a poker fan.
Speaker 2: And it's just a really cool concept because it's totally
Speaker 2: amateur against the pros and then some celebrities, uh and
Speaker 2: then me someone that they're putting in the celebrity category,
Speaker 2: but I'm actually in the shark poker player professional category
Speaker 2: and I am going to crush I cannot wait. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna win so much money. It's going to be so amazing.
Speaker 2: What I was saying though, was, uh, you should maybe out, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you maybe meet me in Vegas. Vegas. Well, that's a
Speaker 2: separate thing. That's for the Yeah, that's for the play.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you should play in the main event.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you should maybe come out and
Speaker 2: hang out with me in Vegas. Yeah, regardless. Uh, what
Speaker 2: I was trying to say was in poker, I can
Speaker 2: kind of stick to Oh man, I don't love this,
Speaker 2: but this is the right play. In sports betting, I
Speaker 2: have trouble with that. So I'm going to give you
Speaker 2: a great example. Teams in Week one that get blasted,
Speaker 2: just blasted, and then are getting huge points in Week
Speaker 2: two over the last twenty years or like something like
Speaker 2: forty eight and twelve against the spread, like an insane number,
Speaker 2: like you know cover, I think like more than seventy
Speaker 2: five percent of the time. The team that checks all
Speaker 2: those boxes is the Panthers. This week, they're at home.
Speaker 2: They're getting there. Panthers plus six at home against the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Every sharp gambling rule says that's a must fire. And
Speaker 2: I just can't bring myself to do it. I just
Speaker 2: can't bring myself to bet on them. So I know
Speaker 2: I should, but I can't do it. All right, demanse,
Speaker 2: let's get to the games. I actually am betting because
Speaker 2: this show's going too long. I said it's gonna be
Speaker 2: an hour. It's already been an hour. We haven't even
Speaker 2: done our picks yet, and we have an f one
Speaker 2: minute and you have your teaser. We have so much
Speaker 2: to do go.
Speaker 4: So first off, you've got Buffalo plus two and a
Speaker 4: half at Miami.
Speaker 2: Yeah, until the Dolphins can beat the Bills, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna you're giving me points. This is a must fire
Speaker 2: on Buffalo. The Bills crushed them last year early in
Speaker 2: the year when the Dolphins were rolling. They then beat
Speaker 2: them again late in the year when the Dolphins were,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of falling apart. I think there's a
Speaker 2: significant psychological edge. Yes, Miami's defense is banged up, and
Speaker 2: of course Tyreek is terrifying, but I didn't think Miami's
Speaker 2: offense looked that good in Week one. I certain I
Speaker 2: thought Miami got there. It was very fortunate to win
Speaker 2: that football game. There's the Etsy En fumble or etn fumble,
Speaker 2: pardon me, and then obviously the Tyreek play, which isn't
Speaker 2: like a Fluke plays Tyreek Hill. But Allen is eleven
Speaker 2: and twelve straight up against Miami. He's four too, and
Speaker 2: one against the spread against to a oddly Thursday night
Speaker 2: home teams have been bad against the spread over the
Speaker 2: last five years, and I think there is a potential
Speaker 2: a bit of a letdown spot for Miami because last
Speaker 2: Sunday was so it's there's the Tyreek stuff and then
Speaker 2: the big comeback Tyreek during the week is reacting to
Speaker 2: all that. I just I'm getting two and a half
Speaker 2: with a team that I think is gonna win. Out right.
Speaker 2: I'll take Buffalo plus the two and a half, all right?
Speaker 2: Next one month.
Speaker 4: Three at Green Bay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you're laying less than a field
Speaker 2: goal with the opportunity to bet against Malik Willis, it's
Speaker 2: just to me, I just have to do it. Malik Willis,
Speaker 2: God God Bless him, is not can't can't throw the football,
Speaker 2: And so I know.
Speaker 4: That Willis is followed by God Bless him.
Speaker 2: But it's kind of well, I feel bad, tough, I
Speaker 2: like the I I don't wanna you know, he's a
Speaker 2: developmental player that hasn't developed that Green Bay acquired hoping
Speaker 2: he could sit for a year, learn their system, be
Speaker 2: in the meetings, get him in the building, and instead
Speaker 2: of weekend, he's got to start a football game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so I don't you know, this might be his
Speaker 2: only start. The Packers are acting like Jordan Love might
Speaker 2: play this week. Now. I don't buy that at all.
Speaker 2: If Jordan Love plays, obviously this line shifts massively. But
Speaker 2: I also think if they officially rule him out that
Speaker 2: the line moves against me. So I'll just lay the
Speaker 2: three right now. I think it would be insane to
Speaker 2: play Jordan Love this week like that. Maybe you can
Speaker 2: play him a week from now, but I think you
Speaker 2: probably sit him the next two weeks. You have the Colts,
Speaker 2: then you have the Titans. And if there's anybody Malik
Speaker 2: Willis can beat in a football game, it's will Levis,
Speaker 2: the you know's former teammate. But the Colts and Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson minus three. I like the running game, I like
Speaker 2: their Anthony Richardson's howartz aer of an arm. I think
Speaker 2: green Bays defense it could be a real problem for
Speaker 2: them this year, and we know their offense is gonna
Speaker 2: be a problem in this game. Now, with that said,
Speaker 2: maybe they just go huge Josh Jacobs game. I mean,
Speaker 2: that is what they're gonna do. I still don't mind
Speaker 2: laying the three points. And so Indie minus three is
Speaker 2: a bet.
Speaker 4: I like next Seattle minus three and a half at
Speaker 4: New England.
Speaker 2: All right, so listen, I this is going to be
Speaker 2: the square side of the bet. See, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of just you know, there's a lot of stuff that says,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna bet it, you gotta bet New England.
Speaker 2: It's the dreaded West Coast team going all the way east,
Speaker 2: playing at one o'clock, so that you know, ten am
Speaker 2: to their bodies. That part's not great. Seattle's interior of
Speaker 2: their offensive line did just give up two sacks. Uh,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, two safeties in one football game. New England's
Speaker 2: defense is good. They're the You're getting a home a
Speaker 2: team at home getting more than three points. I understand
Speaker 2: all of that. The reason I am on Seattle is
Speaker 2: because I am not letting week one chain fundamentally my
Speaker 2: big picture thoughts on the season.
Speaker 4: Now, it's.
Speaker 2: Instead, you mean, because people are gonna be overreacting to
Speaker 2: the Patriots.
Speaker 4: To New England beating Cincinnati last week. Yeah, so maybe
Speaker 4: a little number for Seattle. I feel like if if
Speaker 4: you know what Seattle is and yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: If you no, I think you make a good point.
Speaker 2: Listen what I was going to say there was one
Speaker 2: of my thoughts going into the year was the Patriots
Speaker 2: are one of the four worst teams in football. I
Speaker 2: still believe that they are playing a team that is
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, alive for the playoffs throughout
Speaker 2: the year. You know what I mean. Seattle is not
Speaker 2: a great team, but they're not a bad team. So
Speaker 2: even though I hate the laying more than a field
Speaker 2: goal for a West Coast team coming east for a
Speaker 2: one o'clock game, I think Seattle is pretty good everywhere
Speaker 2: sept for on the interior of their offensive line. And
Speaker 2: while Christian Gonzalez might be able to take away one
Speaker 2: receiving option for Seattle, Seattle's got three legitimate receiving options
Speaker 2: in DK Jackson Smith in Jigba, pardon me, and obviously Locket.
Speaker 2: So I'll lay the three and a half with Seattle.
Speaker 4: Next bag cash at seventeen Chicago plus six at Houston.
Speaker 2: What do you mean, Oh.
Speaker 4: States cover at seventeen twenty points.
Speaker 2: Twenty, I think definitely seventeen. Yeah, seventeen thirteen would cover there,
Speaker 2: all right, So I've got Chicago getting six at Houston.
Speaker 2: I just don't think these two teams are that big
Speaker 2: of a difference talent wise. Now I gotta watch the
Speaker 2: Chicago injury report. I understand that, but I think Chicago's
Speaker 2: defense is better than Houston's defense. I think Houston's offense
Speaker 2: is better than Chicago offense. I think that this should
Speaker 2: be Houston by four. It's Houston by six. So I'll
Speaker 2: take Chicago plus the points I think Chicago. I think
Speaker 2: Caleb is gonna bounce back to a degree. Also, I
Speaker 2: could be wrong. I'm gonna look this up. I don't
Speaker 2: think CJ as great as he was last year. I
Speaker 2: don't think they blew a lot of teams out. And
Speaker 2: I understand six points doesn't necessarily blow up, but to cover,
Speaker 2: you gotta beat teams by more than a touchdown. This
Speaker 2: is something I should have looked up beforehand. But Houston's
Speaker 2: wins last year were I'm just gonna go in reverse order.
Speaker 2: They won by four, they beat Tennessee by twenty three.
Speaker 2: They won in overtime by three against Tennessee. They beat
Speaker 2: Denver by five. They beat Arizona by four, They beat
Speaker 2: Cincinnati by three, they beat Tampa by two, they beat
Speaker 2: New Orleans by seven, and then early in the year.
Speaker 2: To be fair, their first two games the year were
Speaker 2: blow The first two wins were blowouts. They beat Jacksonville
Speaker 2: by twenty in Pittsburgh by twenty four. Uh, I just
Speaker 2: think this is a twenty seven to twenty four game.
Speaker 2: I think it is. I think that there were more
Speaker 2: warning signs than people wanted to maybe acknowledge on Houston's
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball in that game against Indy
Speaker 2: when Anthony Richardson again only completed nine passes, but it
Speaker 2: is for over two hundred yards. Indy scored I think
Speaker 2: touchdowns on three straight second half possessions. So I'm getting
Speaker 2: six points when I think the two teams are similar
Speaker 2: caliber teams. I think Caleb bounces back. So here at
Speaker 2: is Stroud three and six against the spread. As a favorite.
Speaker 2: They win, but they don't really blow people out, you know,
Speaker 2: since they've been this team people believe in. So I'll
Speaker 2: take Chicago plus the six. You hate that one. I
Speaker 2: think the month.
Speaker 4: Correct, No I understand what you're saying. They I do.
Speaker 4: I do think they're they're pros and cons to the
Speaker 4: Chicago's defense, obviously in Houston's offense, so I do think
Speaker 4: it's kind of even. So with the team getting more points,
Speaker 4: I would be more comfortable go in Chicago plus six
Speaker 4: than Houston minus six. So okay, cool, all right. Last one,
Speaker 4: Atlanta plus six and a half at Philly.
Speaker 2: All right, So this is another one where I'm not
Speaker 2: going to overreact to Week one. I don't think Atlanta
Speaker 2: is cooked. I don't think Kirk Cousins is just going
Speaker 2: to be the worst quarterback in football this year. And
Speaker 2: I think that it was a terrible Week one for them.
Speaker 2: I think that they will be competitive, and I thought
Speaker 2: Philly had a lot of warning signs in that game.
Speaker 2: Now again, it's Kirk Cousins in prime time. I understand
Speaker 2: nobody likes that, but I think because of that, this
Speaker 2: is a game. I'll tell you this much to monsay,
Speaker 2: I have my picks in here today, so plus six
Speaker 2: and a half, I will not bet this today because
Speaker 2: if the line moves against me and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden i'm laying I'm only getting six, I'll deal with it.
Speaker 2: I think there's a real chance it moves for me,
Speaker 2: and I'm getting seven, which is obvious by Monday night,
Speaker 2: which is obviously a huge, huge number.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think Atlanta and Philly are similar caliber teams. I
Speaker 2: know it didn't look that way in Week one, and
Speaker 2: so this is a similar situation as the one UH
Speaker 2: as the one that we discussed earlier.
Speaker 4: St in New England.
Speaker 2: Sorry no, no, no, as Chicago Houston, where I think
Speaker 2: there's similar caliber teams and I'm getting six points, and
Speaker 2: so the both teams, it should be noted, UH are
Speaker 2: on Wait okay, yeah, both teams, I guess will be
Speaker 2: on somewhat extended rest because it's Monday night. Phillies on
Speaker 2: much more extended rest because they played Friday while Atlanta
Speaker 2: played Sunday. Cousins oddly has played his best football of
Speaker 2: his career against Philly. He's seven and four against the
Speaker 2: spread against the Eagles. Now that also does date back
Speaker 2: to his time in Houston. I understand that, but it's
Speaker 2: also some games in Minnesota. I think Atlanta's offense gonna
Speaker 2: be able to move the ball. I don't trust that
Speaker 2: Philly defense, and I think at this point Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: is in the He's gonna throw us one category, so
Speaker 2: real quick, my five picks. I've got three dogs, two favorites.
Speaker 2: I am going with Buffalo. I'm doing all the primetime
Speaker 2: game is Buffalo plus two and a half at Miami,
Speaker 2: Chicago plus six at Houston, Atlanta plus six and a
Speaker 2: half at Philly, and then Indy minus three at Green
Speaker 2: Bay and Seattle minus three and a half at New England.
Speaker 2: All right, demon's time for your teaser. Week one didn't
Speaker 2: go the way we had hoped, sadly, but go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last week I had green Bay plus nine and
Speaker 4: a half at Philly. Cash my god, Jordan Love got
Speaker 4: it done. We had Washington plus ten and a half
Speaker 4: at Tampa Bay and Baker was getting real surgical.
Speaker 2: It's just unfortunately, Yeah, they they've got the colors wrong
Speaker 2: on that your Green Bay was the winner. You're washing
Speaker 2: was the loser. But that's fine. You're owen one on one.
Speaker 2: You can deal with this week.
Speaker 4: What what by week? So this week we've got another
Speaker 4: with two teams seven point teaser at minus we.
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, I'm being wait, wait, I'm being told
Speaker 2: you called your shots. Can we do this?
Speaker 4: Night the teaser and guy cooked me. You know he can.
Speaker 2: For everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said that was unprovoked. And then yeah, he
Speaker 4: went on to say that he wouldn't touch my teasers
Speaker 4: with a ten foot pole.
Speaker 2: Donovan Weber, I mean, the guy makes fair points. I
Speaker 2: just gotta say, I mean, you got it at some point.
Speaker 2: You gotta win for the people.
Speaker 4: Thank you for putting the chip on my shoulder. Man.
Speaker 4: So this year we've got I mean not this year.
Speaker 4: This week we've got Dallas from plus from wherever they
Speaker 4: were at plus to plus one six yeah, minus six
Speaker 4: to plus one, and I didn't that was not what
Speaker 4: I saw it as on my phone. And then we've.
Speaker 2: Got so I So I'm gonna tell you what happened here,
Speaker 2: just so you know you when you put these in,
Speaker 2: I think both lines moved a half point in your favor.
Speaker 2: So you got Dallas so the oh yeah, so you
Speaker 2: now you have Dallas getting a full point and Tampa. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's why you made getting fourteen and a half. That's
Speaker 2: why you made those faces about their secondary one.
Speaker 4: But at fourteen points like, there will be a lot
Speaker 4: of allow of room for back door covering. I'm sticking
Speaker 4: with it. I think that they'll win. I think that
Speaker 4: they can win the game, and if they do lose,
Speaker 4: I gotta assume that they can lose by lest two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Listen, if you think they can win the game, then yeah,
Speaker 2: then this is fine. Dallas plus one. They're at home,
Speaker 2: They've won it. If you take out the playoffs, sixteen
Speaker 2: straight home games, I think that's good. Obviously, Tampa getting
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half. I'm gonna give this teaser a B.
Speaker 2: I believe in you. I think you're gonna win. I'm
Speaker 2: glad it doesn't go against any of our picks. All right,
Speaker 2: what's the offer this week? Quickly? Because we are way
Speaker 2: late and I gotta get to work.
Speaker 4: The offer this week is called the enemy of My Enemy.
Speaker 4: You had Pittsburgh and Miami missing the playoffs. They both
Speaker 4: started out one to zero. It would be nice for
Speaker 4: you if they lost this week. Huh. But are you
Speaker 4: willing to bet on the two teams you can't stand
Speaker 4: to win a season long bet Denver plus Buffalo moneyline
Speaker 4: parlay a plus four oh six.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna take that because I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: bet on bone Nicks. The I'm gonna stay away from
Speaker 2: the you know from bone Knicks for now. So no,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take that offer. I appreciate the offer.
Speaker 2: We're now zero for two on me accepting this. We'll
Speaker 2: say not taking an off here, all right, So no
Speaker 2: I will at some point. All right, I hate to
Speaker 2: do this once again. We're not gonna be able to
Speaker 2: get to listener questions. Say this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: We are going to take a quick break, come back
Speaker 2: and just play for you guys, the F one minute
Speaker 2: from Sierra. She's back from being out of town. F
Speaker 2: one season is in full force. But this is the
Speaker 2: last you're gonna see for me. I'm gonna Demonse, you
Speaker 2: are going to after you're gonna introduce the F one minute,
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna say goodbye to the audience because
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be late for the TV show. Show went
Speaker 2: so long, it's gonna be an hour. It's been an
Speaker 2: hour and twenty minutes. Good luck to everyone with their picks.
Speaker 2: Good luck to everyone this weekend. I will see you
Speaker 2: guys on TV at three pm. Take quick break, Demonse
Speaker 2: and Sierra coming back. What's right?
Speaker 4: All right? Welcome back? It's what's right with Nick? Right,
Speaker 4: it's Demanse Bird and it is time for Sierra's F
Speaker 4: one minute. Let's get it.
Speaker 3: The F one circus is back and this weekend we're
Speaker 3: gonna be in azerbaijean Baku for another round of racing.
Speaker 3: I'm Sierra and this is F one minute. So last
Speaker 3: time we spoke, we were talking about the Italian Grand
Speaker 3: Prix and it turns out Charles Lukirk won that race.
Speaker 3: So it was a big weekend for the Defossie fans
Speaker 3: and for the Ferrari team. The top five winners of
Speaker 3: that weekend though, it was Charles, then oscar Lan do Norris,
Speaker 3: I mean Carlos Signs, and then Lewis Hamilton in fifth place.
Speaker 3: Now notice how I did not mention a ridicule name
Speaker 3: at all. That's because Max came in sixth place and
Speaker 3: then his team at Chucko Perez came in in eighth place.
Speaker 3: As far as the weekend is concerned, in back who
Speaker 3: there is faith for Ferrari. And I say this because
Speaker 3: Charles has a very good history here. He's won pole
Speaker 3: position consecutively since twenty twenty one, so in that regard
Speaker 3: there's hope for them. But he's not the only one
Speaker 3: with a reputation here because Checho Perez has won here
Speaker 3: twice and he's the only driver to win here multiple times.
Speaker 3: So he won in twenty twenty one and then he
Speaker 3: won again in twenty twenty three. But that does not
Speaker 3: mean he's going to win in twenty twenty four because
Speaker 3: with like, Red Bull's performance is starting to dwindle here.
Speaker 3: I just want to mention that Max has not won
Speaker 3: a race since June and we're in September, so in
Speaker 3: that like, they're going down and McLaren is on the
Speaker 3: come up right about now. So with that being said,
Speaker 3: there's no guarantee that they're going to win a race
Speaker 3: at all this weekend. But there's also no guarantee that
Speaker 3: they're going to win the Constructor Championship because McLaren only
Speaker 3: needs to outscore them by a measly eight points. Now
Speaker 3: I call this measley because at the Italian Grand Prix
Speaker 3: they outscored Red Bull by twenty two points. So with
Speaker 3: that being said, McLaren will be dethrowned, I mean sorry,
Speaker 3: Red Bull will be dethroned from their first place position
Speaker 3: in the Constructors Championship this week end, and they've been
Speaker 3: in that spot since twenty twenty two. So so it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a pivotal weekend for McLaren and Red Bull
Speaker 3: because Charles has done so well for the past three years.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna do well again. And you know,
Speaker 3: the momentum is gonna be pumping from the last race weekend,
Speaker 3: so he's gonna be in the right mindset, you know.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna put him in third place and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do a double McLaren podium again, a one to two.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. You know, who determines who's gonna
Speaker 3: be in one, who's gonna be in two. It's McLaren
Speaker 3: from their team orders. That is, who's gonna determine who's
Speaker 3: in first and who's in the second. Because if they
Speaker 3: choose to prioritize the fact that Lando may or may
Speaker 3: not have a shot at winning the drivers' championship, then
Speaker 3: Lando should be winning. But if they don't and they
Speaker 3: kind of willy nilliate and they they're like, you know,
Speaker 3: race each other, then Auscar could be in first. I
Speaker 3: don't know, it depends on what they choose to prioritize,
Speaker 3: but I do see it a McLaren one too, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave Charles at third. If you have nothing
Speaker 3: to do this Sunday morning, you should definitely watch the race.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be on eight am sharp Eastern time. But
Speaker 3: until then, I'll tell to you guys another time.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's go. McLaren sounds like we've got
Speaker 4: to raise our hands coming this Sunday. Hey, you guys
Speaker 4: for watching. Have a good Thursday. Enjoy your weekend.
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