Speaker 1: So I'm a little behind the eight ball on the debate.
Speaker 1: And I talked recently about how people can't have a
Speaker 1: different opinion in twenty twenty four. Someone voting for Kamala
Speaker 1: can't be at the same tables. Some are voting for
Speaker 1: Trump in twenty twenty four. And when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that, And so people theoretically now can't
Speaker 1: be married who are voting for different candidates. And I
Speaker 1: was talking to my friend Sarah, who told me she
Speaker 1: was voting with her body, and another friend said they're
Speaker 1: voting with their wallet. And I've talked about how it's
Speaker 1: a luxury to be able to have different issues on
Speaker 1: someone's platform that are the reason you're voting for them,
Speaker 1: meaning like if you donate to authritis because you know
Speaker 1: someone who is athritis, or someone in your family does,
Speaker 1: or cancer or things like that, it's something that is
Speaker 1: near and dear to you. It's important to you, it's
Speaker 1: close to your heart, and people vote in that way. Also,
Speaker 1: like people vote because of their wallet, because of their body,
Speaker 1: because they want to be married, and they're gay, because
Speaker 1: of their families in the military, whatever their reason is.
Speaker 1: There are many people who don't really have the luxury
Speaker 1: of picking issues. They are just they are starving. They're
Speaker 1: literally starving, and they just want to vote to be
Speaker 1: able to possibly survive, or to pay their rent, or
Speaker 1: to eat. And that I gave this advice that I
Speaker 1: think that people should really do two things at the
Speaker 1: same time. You're kind of playing chess and checkers at
Speaker 1: the same time. You're deciding what you want to do
Speaker 1: based on your issues and your life because you're one
Speaker 1: person with the power of one vote, but also the
Speaker 1: chest of it is and also what's best for the
Speaker 1: whole country, because if your body's in check but you're
Speaker 1: going to be bombed and go to war, then what
Speaker 1: does that mean You don't have a body necessarily. So
Speaker 1: it's very confusing, and we're fed so much information from
Speaker 1: different news outlets. If you're on CNN, people are rolling
Speaker 1: their eyes at Trump. If you're on Fox, people are
Speaker 1: laughing at Kamala. And it wasn't this, it wasn't this
Speaker 1: glaring when we were kids, where it was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I you know, I remember watching Chris Cuomo and Don
Speaker 1: Lemon like like laughing at you know, and then on
Speaker 1: the other side, you know, people on Fox laughing at Kamala,
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's just different than it used to be.
Speaker 1: So it's harder for the average person to make their
Speaker 1: own decisions because we also are a product of what
Speaker 1: we're being fed by the machine. So who has the
Speaker 1: better machine, meaning they're in beauty, for example, I talk
Speaker 1: about beauty all the time, and it's all the same thing,
Speaker 1: Like it's all pigment, all the powders or pigments in
Speaker 1: eyeshadow and blush. You can use blush's eyeshadow. You can
Speaker 1: use eyeshadow as blush. You can use eyeshadow as highlighter
Speaker 1: as bronze, or you can use lip gloss as blush
Speaker 1: and blush as lip glass and eyeshadow. And who's marketing
Speaker 1: these lines the best? Not that there aren't some things
Speaker 1: that are better, not that there aren't candidates that are better,
Speaker 1: not that there aren't products that are better overall in
Speaker 1: the world. But to have a massive marketing budget gives
Speaker 1: you a leg up or to be a better marketer.
Speaker 1: You know, to be a better marketer gives you a
Speaker 1: leg up to be more charismatic, gives you a leg
Speaker 1: up to be thought of as trusted and honest, gives
Speaker 1: you a leg up, because when you're selling something, then
Speaker 1: people will believe you, you know, and some people are
Speaker 1: better salespeople than others. You know. I've seen Obama speak,
Speaker 1: I've seen Trump speak, I've seen Hillary speak. I had
Speaker 1: Hillary on the podcast. I once saw her speak at ironically,
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein's house. There were like fifty people there and
Speaker 1: I saw her speak. Most of the people were celebrities,
Speaker 1: and it was very boring, you know. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that I don't like Hillary, and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: she hasn't done amazing things. It wasn't great on my podcast,
Speaker 1: and is you know, so accomplished. It felt a little
Speaker 1: bit like a science teacher. And I thought to myself, Wow,
Speaker 1: charisma is so important, Like look at Bill Clinton, the
Speaker 1: charisma that he had. Look at JFK, you know, the charisma.
Speaker 1: And so then you're dealing with like who's more charismatic,
Speaker 1: who's more teleigenic. There are so many things to think about,
Speaker 1: and it's hard for us to know why we're buying
Speaker 1: a product, and it's hard for us to know why
Speaker 1: we're voting for someone. You know, my daughter has opinions
Speaker 1: about candidates based on where she goes to school, who
Speaker 1: she's talking to, what she's read in the news, the
Speaker 1: bigger headline. It's very confusing, you know. I mean when
Speaker 1: Trump was running the first time, I was on a
Speaker 1: panel as I think a New York Times panel for
Speaker 1: like like ad week or something, and there was somebody
Speaker 1: there from the New York Times. And this is when
Speaker 1: no one thought that Trump was going to win, and
Speaker 1: I said, I think he's got a shot because he's
Speaker 1: producing the greatest reality show, free reality show. People could
Speaker 1: not look away and the media had to keep reporting
Speaker 1: on it, and I said it. I remember saying this.
Speaker 1: It was during a time when you know, I go
Speaker 1: through all the channels and I end up watching SpongeBob
Speaker 1: because it's so confusing and there's so much information. So
Speaker 1: whoever's the most disruptive is what you're going to watch.
Speaker 1: You know, people watch train wreck television, people watch actual
Speaker 1: train wrecks, People watch car Rex why because they can't
Speaker 1: stop looking. So if you don't know much about another
Speaker 1: candidate and one is getting your attention more for certain reasons,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna do that. And it may be Kamala
Speaker 1: because she's a woman, and maybe because she's a black woman.
Speaker 1: It may because it's an amazing story. It maybe because
Speaker 1: she's the best candidate. Maybe because Trump is more you know, disruptive,
Speaker 1: and seems like that is means he's more you know,
Speaker 1: telling the truth because he's not playing by like the
Speaker 1: polished perfect rules. Or maybe you just you think he's
Speaker 1: better for your wallet, or she's better for your body,
Speaker 1: or she's better for gay rights. It's a very confusing time,
Speaker 1: and I would say you have to try to clear
Speaker 1: the clutter. Try to clear the clutter too, when you're
Speaker 1: buying products and when you're consuming media. It is a
Speaker 1: scary time. The reason that bars now hire bartenders who
Speaker 1: have big social media followings is because they have influence.
Speaker 1: They have influence. People are going to come into the
Speaker 1: bar to buy drinks from the one who has more followers.
Speaker 1: That's also scary. It's not so scary in a bar,
Speaker 1: but it's scary because like people who have influence move markets.
Speaker 1: I sell product. Thank god, I'm honest about it. Thank God,
Speaker 1: I'm honest to buy my chicken salad and the lip cluss,
Speaker 1: and so much so that the other day I raved
Speaker 1: about the best lip gluss I ever tried, and it
Speaker 1: was actually a blush. I didn't even know it. The
Speaker 1: people knew. The people in the comments told it to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I were working with Lorel on that post,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have let me post a product as something else.
Speaker 1: But I just experienced it as a lip product. So
Speaker 1: that's what I said. Point being, I move a lot
Speaker 1: of product, millions of dollars of product, just be myself
Speaker 1: and just trying something and not caring whether I'm saying
Speaker 1: Chanel sucks or doors this or whatever. I don't give
Speaker 1: a shit because no one's paying my rent and no
Speaker 1: one has anything I want. But it's scary if even
Speaker 1: charity people don't realize. People think that because it seems
Speaker 1: like someone's doing good during a time of crisis, that
Speaker 1: they just go and donate money. And I have specific
Speaker 1: examples in my mind off celebrities it posted links went up,
Speaker 1: started talking because they wanted to be part of the solution,
Speaker 1: and they're sending money to the wrong place. They get
Speaker 1: jammed up. It's almost illegal. They don't know where the
Speaker 1: money's going. There's a third party involved between them and
Speaker 1: the actual charity. And I find out for my partners
Speaker 1: that the person that is actually in the charity doesn't
Speaker 1: even specialize in doing what they're saying that it's going
Speaker 1: to do. Because when it's a time of crisis, a
Speaker 1: time of relief, a time where people are in panic,
Speaker 1: people aren't paying attention. When I had to bring thirteen
Speaker 1: million dollars of hazmat suits to Cuomo in Albany, I
Speaker 1: did it in days. You have to be a certain
Speaker 1: type of fucking animal to do that. And we had
Speaker 1: to vet AID and inspect it. There's a lot of counterfeit.
Speaker 1: AID almost at our ass handed to it. I almost
Speaker 1: lost the thirteen million dollars. I mean, it is scary
Speaker 1: shit because people were trying to scam us, and people
Speaker 1: in different states at different governments were getting scammed because
Speaker 1: it's too fast. It's moving too fast. And it's the
Speaker 1: same thing with politics. People are just saying whatever they
Speaker 1: need to say, doing whatever they need to do. How
Speaker 1: are you going to be educated to decide and realize
Speaker 1: what you want and do? You only just vote party
Speaker 1: because that's what your whole family's done, that's what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. You just blindly walk in and just
Speaker 1: you know, check a box because of is it red
Speaker 1: or blue? And so I just think that it's a
Speaker 1: time to try to clear the noise, get educated, don't
Speaker 1: believe the hype, don't believe marketing, think about what you
Speaker 1: truly need and want for yourself and for others. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a time to think about yourself and for others.
Speaker 1: I think it's very confusing. I think it's very complicated.
Speaker 1: And I also don't think I've ever heard of any
Speaker 1: politician that hasn't lied, that hasn't switched, hasn't flip flopped,
Speaker 1: that hasn't had to say something different because they didn't
Speaker 1: realize what it meant the first time, or now they're
Speaker 1: on another side, or now they have another platform and
Speaker 1: now it's not popular. I mean, who would want the job?
Speaker 1: Who would want the goddamn job? Because it's so toxic.
Speaker 1: Who would want the job? I've spoken to more Cuban
Speaker 1: about it, you know what I mean, Like he would
Speaker 1: be actually excellent at the job, but what would his
Speaker 1: family want? That? Do you want to put your family
Speaker 1: through that? There's no upside. So the debate, the reason
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the debate is because people
Speaker 1: didn't think Kamala could stick the landing. They didn't think
Speaker 1: she could stick the landing because they call it her
Speaker 1: word salad and her laugh and she can be a
Speaker 1: little hokey and like, you know, a little cringe sometimes,
Speaker 1: and so people didn't think she'd stick the landing, and
Speaker 1: she surprised people. And people can say whatever they want,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter who you're voting for as it
Speaker 1: pertains to the debate, But Kamala did a better job
Speaker 1: because he took the bait the ego, and the man
Speaker 1: took the bait from you know, of the woman, and
Speaker 1: you saw it happen. You saw it with the truth
Speaker 1: about cats and dogs. You saw it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: And it's not about who you're voting for. But if
Speaker 1: you are someone who publicly speaks or debates or goes
Speaker 1: in to try to get a job or a promotion
Speaker 1: or something, I just want you to know that the
Speaker 1: game moves quickly. So the debate reminds me of reality television,
Speaker 1: because on reality television, the game is moving quickly, and
Speaker 1: once you've said something, you're still in your head about
Speaker 1: what you've already said, but you're onto the next thing.
Speaker 1: You're on to the next point, the next conversation. The
Speaker 1: cameras are still rolling you can't say stop, I want
Speaker 1: to do over. You can't get in your head and
Speaker 1: stay stuck in the last thing, because otherwise you'll get
Speaker 1: you'll get stumped on the next thing. And like I said,
Speaker 1: the game is moving very quickly, and you got to
Speaker 1: get out of your head and you have to not
Speaker 1: take the bait. It's so tempting because people in court
Speaker 1: rooms and people in debates drop bread crumb so you'll
Speaker 1: pick them up, so you'll follow them. And I've seen it,
Speaker 1: and it's not always in a very obvious way. It's
Speaker 1: not always in a very obvious way. And I call
Speaker 1: them side shows. My lawyers said that I was the
Speaker 1: best person they've ever had on the stand that wasn't
Speaker 1: a paid professional, that didn't do this for a living.
Speaker 1: And it might be because, I mean, in high school
Speaker 1: I was good at debate. I've always been a good
Speaker 1: public speaker. I was good at it on the Housewives,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's a honed skill. I never ever ask
Speaker 1: for anything in advance when I do any type of
Speaker 1: talk show. I've never asked for the questions once. I
Speaker 1: don't want to know them. I want it to be natural,
Speaker 1: I want it to be fresh. If I do a
Speaker 1: speaking engagement. I want to just like listen to the
Speaker 1: person's you know, and answer the question. Presumably why I
Speaker 1: did well in the Lifetime movie because I learned to
Speaker 1: memorize lines, but in the moment, you memorize them with
Speaker 1: no punctuation, with no preconceived notion, without the way you
Speaker 1: think the lines are supposed to be delivered, so when
Speaker 1: the person opposite you delivers them, you can honestly answer.
Speaker 1: So I think that in court people go off on
Speaker 1: these side shows, and the debate is the same thing.
Speaker 1: Someone asks you something and now you're off to the
Speaker 1: races because you want to catch every little thing. You
Speaker 1: want to plug every little hole, instead of staying the course,
Speaker 1: not trying to get rogue, not trying to hit a
Speaker 1: home run, just trying to be thorough. So she did
Speaker 1: a great job. But you can learn a lot from
Speaker 1: a debate, and I would say taking debate, even in
Speaker 1: normal like just arguments, what happens is often it's not
Speaker 1: the message, it's the messenger, and it's the messaging. So
Speaker 1: let's say you're in a fight with someone, even your husband.
Speaker 1: You're in a fight with your husband, a girlfriend, someone
Speaker 1: at school. You know, the principal, the teacher that did
Speaker 1: something that you didn't like with your kid, the coach.
Speaker 1: I just had to talk with my daughter's coach, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the delivery. How are you going to
Speaker 1: deliver this? And if you go low, and if you
Speaker 1: start taking bait, and if you start going off on
Speaker 1: the side, your message may never be received. You may
Speaker 1: have the best message, but if you go off on
Speaker 1: a side show and on a tangent and on a
Speaker 1: bait take, then your message won't be heard. So you
Speaker 1: gotta you know, cooler minds prevail. It's not that easy.
Speaker 1: And the thing about things like talk shows and debates
Speaker 1: and courtrooms is television makes them look easy, and even
Speaker 1: reality TV. It's not easy when you're in the moment
Speaker 1: and the game is moving quickly. It's not easy when
Speaker 1: you're telling a speech and you're dying on the vine.
Speaker 1: It's not easy when you're doing stand up and you're
Speaker 1: shitting the bed and you still have to keep going.
Speaker 1: You can't get in your head. You got to be calm, cool, collected,
Speaker 1: Take a deep breath, keep calm, and carry on.