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Speaker 1: Hello everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm Ryan Warmley,

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Speaker 2: joining this Friday morning by Derek Browd and by Pat

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Speaker 2: Fitz Morris Fellas. It's the Week five Key Questions Show.

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Speaker 2: We'll be running through the biggest questions of the week

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Speaker 2: in fantasy breaking down some of these matchups in what

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Speaker 2: looks like a pretty fun Week five slate. Just get

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Speaker 2: some quick thoughts on Thursday Night football from last night.

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Speaker 2: Fun game, but debro maybe didn't pan out the way

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it was a horrible night for prop betting,

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Speaker 3: Like everybody hit the line, couldn't hit the overs. But

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Speaker 3: can we say any concerns for Drake London were a

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Speaker 3: little bit premature. If you wanted the Drake London arrival

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Speaker 3: game as a wide receiver one rest of season, we

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Speaker 3: got it, dude. I mean he was fantastic last night.

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Speaker 1: Fits Was this.

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Speaker 2: The Drake London game or was it the Darnell Mooney game?

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Speaker 2: Or was it the Kirk Cousins game? Given their stat lines, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, I was.

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Speaker 5: I was below consensus with my ranking of Drake London,

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Speaker 5: but above my consensus or above the consensus on my

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Speaker 5: ranking of Darnell Mooney, so I guess it evened out.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I was down in the dumps after

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Speaker 5: the Brewers wrote another sad chapter in their tortured playoff history.

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Speaker 5: But the finish to that game sort of lifted my

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Speaker 5: spirits a little bit. That was that was the fun

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Speaker 5: Thursday night game we needed.

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Speaker 3: Fits.

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Speaker 2: We have a alliance this week about not talking about

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Speaker 2: playoff baseball given the way our teams perform, so we're

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Speaker 2: not gonna reference anything else in regards to that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean the other you know, obviously, like I said,

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, you know, five hundred passing yards for touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: Drake London De Ro mentioned Darnell Mooney was really good.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts relative to what he's been this year. Seven catches,

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Speaker 2: eighty eight yards. You know, that's maybe some signs of life.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how that looks to moving forward. Very

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Speaker 2: very fun game, you know, Shoed White ten for seventy two.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, baker Field just one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty yards with three touchdowns, no picks, and Mike Evans

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Speaker 2: did what he does at the end zone a couple

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Speaker 2: of times.

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Speaker 1: He is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Just a quick reminder for everyone that all of our

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Speaker 2: weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros

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Speaker 2: Playbook or on the Fantasy Football My Playbook app. Before

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Speaker 2: we jump into this week's questions, let's check in with

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Speaker 2: Colin Coward and his over under picks for the Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Over Under Challenge. Time now for the Week five Over

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Speaker 2: Under Challenge. As always, this segment is presented by DraftKings,

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Speaker 2: and as always, I'm joined by Coward to talk through

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Speaker 2: some of our favorite player picks for this week's slate.

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Speaker 2: Second straight week, I've got to give a shout out

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Speaker 2: to my colleague and Fantasy Pros analyst Andrew Erickson still

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Speaker 2: number one atop the leader board a thirty and eight

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Speaker 2: record on his picks this season. He is absolutely crushing it.

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Speaker 2: Colin and I will continue to try to do our

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Speaker 2: best to keep up with ericson. As a reminder, everyone

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Speaker 2: listening can play along with our over under challenge and

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Speaker 2: try to not only beat Colin, but win some cool

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Speaker 2: prizes by heading to Fantasypros dot com Slash challenge. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's start, as always with the quarterbacks. Jayden Daniels going

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Speaker 2: up against the Browns. Debro was on your show, Colin

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Speaker 2: in August, my other colleague at Fantasy Pros. He was

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Speaker 2: all over Jayden Daniels. He is looking really good for

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Speaker 2: that prediction now. He was all over him for Offensive

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Speaker 2: I mentioned, now, facing that Browns defense, they are only

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Speaker 1: What do you expect out of Daniels this week?

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Speaker 6: But until I see otherwise, I think Jaden Daniels is

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Speaker 2: On that point, like I mentioned that Deebro had kind

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Speaker 1: How impressed are you so far in this first month.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm also surprised by their run game. We

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Speaker 2: The other quarterback I wanted to hit on this week,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love going up against the Rams. It took a

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Speaker 2: QB two on the week on DraftKings. You know, three

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Love this week?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's one of these things. What do

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Speaker 6: I believe In the second half against Minnesota? I thought

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Speaker 6: they looked really, really strong. Now Christian Watson's hurt, some

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Speaker 6: I think the Rams defense is talented but super young.

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Speaker 6: The last couple of years, they've spent their draft capital

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Speaker 6: So the wise guys like the Rams this week. I

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Speaker 6: It will be a home game for the Packers, even

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a fairly low scoring,

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Speaker 6: I think Jordan Love will be fine, but I don't

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the other side of this game, as

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Speaker 2: we moved to the running backs. Kiron Williams obviously going

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Speaker 6: Well, I know McVay loves him. I think he's a

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Speaker 2: Let's move to a few wide receivers here. Amari Cooper

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Speaker 2: going up against the Commanders. We've talked on these segments

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Speaker 2: already this season, Colin about how this defense is one

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Speaker 2: you want to attack through the air. Amari Cooper has

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Speaker 2: been very boom or busts so far this season, get

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Speaker 1: Few other busts in there. Do you think he'll have

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Speaker 6: if he and Watson aren't particularly close. Again, the Browns

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Speaker 6: I'll say it again, I'm not so sure the Browns

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Speaker 6: aren't trapped with a washed quarterback in Deshaun Watson. If

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Speaker 6: Kevin Stefanski an excellent coach can't elevate him past his

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Speaker 2: You always talk about, you know, the unstoppable force against

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Speaker 2: the immovable object, the Browns passing game against the Commander's

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Speaker 2: the very movable object. Another receiver I want to hit

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Speaker 2: on here is Zay Flowers going up against the Bengals

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Speaker 2: of those came in a Week two loss to the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't been amazing against the Bengals in the past,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's almost as if we anointed Zay Flowers as

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Speaker 6: a one, and he's really probably a two. He is

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Speaker 6: a small receiver. As you know, increasingly they have more weapons.

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Speaker 6: I think Derrick Henry has shifted the focus off Zay Flowers.

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Speaker 6: I think this is a divisional game. He's never played

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Speaker 2: Last receiver here Jackson Smith and Jigba going up against

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Speaker 2: the Giants wide receiver fifty this season pretty similar to

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Speaker 2: Zay Flowers in that a lot of his fantasy points

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Speaker 1: Somebody who's really talented.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I loved him coming out as a prospect

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Speaker 2: and it's starting to feel more and more like maybe

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Speaker 2: JSN is just a really good possession receiver. I'm not

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Speaker 2: ready to entirely write him off, but yeah, what do

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Speaker 6: Well, I like the Seahawks in this game. I was

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Speaker 6: very impressed despite the fact they lost to the Lions.

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Speaker 6: They had thirty eight first downs. Clearly, Gino Smith and

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Speaker 6: DK Metcalf have a very strong bond. The over the

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Speaker 6: just don't think. I think Lockett and DK Metcalf are

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Speaker 6: feel like he's more possession than Superstar. I like the

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Speaker 6: Seahawks to win by about ten points. But in this spot,

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Speaker 6: I think DK Metcalf and Gino and I'll say this

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Speaker 1: Thanks again for hopping on Colin.

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Speaker 2: Remember everybody to head to fantasypros dot com slash challenge

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Speaker 2: to play along all season long. All right, guys, let's

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Speaker 1: Across the pond.

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Speaker 2: Braylan Allen has outplayed Breese Hall in back to back games.

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Speaker 2: Probably too early to overreact to that small sample size,

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Speaker 5: Fits I don't think he has swirm. I know it's

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Speaker 5: been a rough start. For bres Hall so far three

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Speaker 5: be fine. Bris Hall Is He's twenty three. He's already

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Speaker 5: put together a very compelling body of work. So Breis

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Speaker 5: Hall investors should just chill out, do some yoga, poor

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Speaker 4: He is not suddenly losing it. He's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 5: I love Braylan Allen. I mean, he's a Wisconsin Badger

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Speaker 5: he still basically just has handcuff value at this point,

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Speaker 5: averaging eight point six half point PPR Fantasy points per game,

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Speaker 5: and that average is being propped up by an eighteen

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Speaker 5: running really well. Like for Alan to be fantasy relevant

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Speaker 5: on just eight to ten touches a game, he would

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Speaker 5: He has seven receptions and he has only had one

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Speaker 5: red zone carry this season. You said it, Worm, Braylan Allen,

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Speaker 5: he is an elite backup, but I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: Deep brow what E think, I'll echo every single thing

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Speaker 3: that fits, he said, elite handcuff, not getting the red

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Speaker 3: that I do want to highlight here, Worm, is yes,

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Speaker 3: I know people are freaking out of at breeze Hall.

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Speaker 3: If you can right now put out feelers for him

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Speaker 3: in every single league, And this is what I'm going

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Speaker 3: to tell everybody. He has a league winning stretch run schedule.

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Speaker 3: It is sickening how good it is. I just pulled

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Speaker 3: it up from week ten on. These are the run

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Speaker 3: defenses he faces people Arizona, Indy, Seattle. Any of those

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Speaker 3: scare you. Okay, let's add on Miami Jacksonville's a little

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Speaker 3: and the bills in week sixteen, in week seventeen, that

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Speaker 3: is beyond juicy. So I'm not only preaching patients with

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Speaker 3: Breese Hall. Go out and trade for him today. This

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Speaker 3: Devonte Adams. Aaron Rodgers looks better. This offensive line has

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Speaker 3: nowhere to go but up. They are legitimately the worst

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Speaker 3: the schedule. People need to go test the waters and

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Speaker 3: trade for him everywhere they can.

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Speaker 2: So you basically answered the question I was going to ask,

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Speaker 2: which is I'm participating in fantasy bros is doing a

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Speaker 2: gue team league this year for the first and brisall

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Speaker 2: his team was cut last week and he's now available,

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Speaker 2: he went for over five hundred dollars out of a

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Speaker 2: thought that was acceptable, which it would be in a

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Speaker 2: like you think that was, you know, more than fair,

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Speaker 2: more than fair.

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Speaker 3: And now I probably would even have gone above that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the one to get Brisaw by the way,

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Speaker 2: I was the only I was the only person to

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Speaker 3: If flex becomes a loud flex, I like it weren't.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just was surprised by it, honestly. So I

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Speaker 3: For getting in for fifty percent. I would have gone

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Speaker 2: So it just quick just quickly on Alan Deebrow, I

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Speaker 2: forget where did you have him when you were doing

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Speaker 2: we talked about how Braylen Allen for Fitz is like

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Speaker 3: I had him lower only because as a prospect. It

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Speaker 3: the Braileen Allen we saw and FITZI can chime in

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Speaker 3: I think are not absolutely one to eighty different players.

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Speaker 3: His running style has changed though. He is being more physical.

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Speaker 3: He is getting downhill. He is using his size and

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Speaker 3: up on film in college. There was so many times

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That everything you just mentioned, and he looks faster.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, a lot faster.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Browns at Commanders. The Commanders have been

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Speaker 2: all elite, high level fantasy options this week, Debro.

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Speaker 3: I think you're looking at high end fantasy options like

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Speaker 3: But to the other guys, I mean, we don't know

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Speaker 1: It's what do you think? I mean.

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Speaker 2: The Commander's offense has been so I mean again, this

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Speaker 1: They've punted like once the cross three weeks.

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Speaker 2: They're really excelling at I mean, I liked jayde Daniels.

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Speaker 4: Like it's a good defense.

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Speaker 4: I think he's going to do well. Terry McLaurin.

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Speaker 5: As Debro pointed out, you're playing him Brian Robinson Junior

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Speaker 4: Austin Eckler. Fire him up.

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Speaker 4: I think so. Deebro doesn't think so.

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Speaker 5: Like I bet the over on him on DraftKings had

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Speaker 5: forty nine and a half yards yesterday, and I know

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Speaker 5: the home road splits are always bad with him, or

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Speaker 5: at least have been since he joined the Browns. But man,

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Speaker 5: like this is a Washington can't cover anyone, and the

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Speaker 5: Browns are getting their starting tackles back. It looks like

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Speaker 5: Jedrick Wills and Jack Conklin, that's gonna help a lot.

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Speaker 5: Maybe give de Sehan Watson a little more time. Like

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Speaker 5: I know, Watson hasn't been good. I can't spin anything

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Speaker 5: that way, but maybe he's a little bit better with

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Speaker 5: improved pass protection.

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Speaker 2: Debro quickly, I saw you kind of shaking your head,

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Speaker 2: so you disagree.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree about about Cooper being good. The only

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Speaker 3: thing that worries me about it is the coverage matchup,

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Speaker 3: because we've seen Washington run a lot of too high.

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Speaker 3: This is what got Marvin Harrison Junior. And what I

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Speaker 3: wrote up in the primer is that what teams do

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Speaker 3: versus single high and versus too high. And Cooper's target

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Speaker 3: share has dropped, He's still be getting fed a bunch

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Speaker 3: a bunch of volumes. So maybe that doesn't hold this

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Speaker 3: week considering the matchup, but if they hold tight considering

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Speaker 3: the cover matchup, I'm not as high on Cooper, but

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Speaker 3: I am higher on Jerry Judy versus too high, we've

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Speaker 3: seen his yards per route run go up, his first

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Speaker 3: read cheer bump to twenty three point three percent. So

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Speaker 3: while Fitz and I are a little bit on the

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Speaker 3: opposite sides as far as which Browns wide receiver goes off.

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Speaker 3: I think one of them does. I just think it's

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Speaker 3: Judy and not Cooper.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Ravens at Bengals. Lots of really enticing

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Speaker 2: matchups in this one. I didn't want to kind of

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Speaker 2: highlight a specific player. I just want to get your

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Speaker 2: guys opinion on kind of the strength on weakness that

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Speaker 2: we're getting on both sides of the ball. We get

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Speaker 2: the Ravens rushing attack against the Bengals rush defense. That

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Speaker 2: is a huge advantage for the Ravens. But we also

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Speaker 2: get the Bengals passing attack against the Ravens passing defense,

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Speaker 2: which so far this season looks like a big advantage

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Speaker 2: to Cincinnati. So fits which of those do you expect

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Speaker 2: a bigger day out of the Ravens rushing game or

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Speaker 2: the Bengals passing game.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think your Ravens have that bad a

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Speaker 5: pass defense for I know they've given up a lot

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Speaker 5: of yards so far, but that was kind of skewed

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Speaker 5: by the Dallas game. They are like nineteenth in opponent

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Speaker 5: passer rating, below average but not terrible. The Bengals run defense,

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Speaker 5: on the other hand, gave up one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 5: rushing yards and a touchdown to Ramandre Stevenson in week one,

484
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Speaker 5: gave up ninety rushing yards to Isaiah Piccheco in week two,

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Speaker 5: gave up touchdown runs to Brian Robinson, Junior, Austin Eckler

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Speaker 5: and Jane Daniels in week three, and gave up one

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Speaker 5: hundred and four rushing yards and a touchdown to Chewba

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Speaker 5: Hubbard in week four. Derreck Henry is gonna steam roll

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Speaker 5: this defense.

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Speaker 2: I definitely agree that Derek Henry's gonna steam roll this defense.

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Speaker 2: The thing I'll say about the Ravens pass defense is

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Speaker 2: I think they're better.

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Speaker 1: And there was some discussion about this in some.

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Speaker 2: Of like the national media shows this week coming off

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Speaker 2: of that Bills performance, where I think they're better suited

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Speaker 2: for a defense like the Bills where there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of options, but maybe not that one alpha in the

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Speaker 2: passing game. I worry about the current state of their secondary,

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Speaker 2: their ability to slow down at alpha, Like the way

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Speaker 2: we saw Rashi Rice playing before he got hurt in

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Speaker 2: that Week one game, you know, against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: He came out firing.

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Speaker 2: You know, the way we saw DeVante Adams and Brock

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Speaker 2: Bauers even kind of destroy them in week two. The

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Speaker 2: only alpha level receiver that hasn't torched the Ravens this

506
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Speaker 2: year is Seed Lamb, and even he I think that

507
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Speaker 2: was more he had a bad game than the Ravens

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Speaker 2: did some you know, any kind of special defense to

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Speaker 2: slow him down. So the Bengals have alpha's right, they

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Speaker 2: have Jamar Chase, who is as alpha as it gets,

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Speaker 2: and they have t Higgins He's now back on the field.

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Speaker 2: So that is what very specifically worries me. It's it's

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Speaker 2: not that I think the secondary is bad. I just

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Speaker 2: don't know that it's suited to slow down like an

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Speaker 2: elite receiver, which by the way, is very difficult for

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Speaker 2: most defenses to do. So that's more my concern in

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Speaker 2: terms of looking at that particular matchup. But I totally

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Speaker 2: agree that, like on the other side, like I just

519
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Speaker 2: don't see anyway the Bengals can can stop Dereck Henry.

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Speaker 2: It's this third straight great matchup against the terrible running defense,

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Speaker 2: and I'm expecting to see similar to what we saw

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Speaker 2: in weeks three and four.

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Speaker 1: Debro, how are you looking at this one?

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Speaker 3: You're not stopping the Derrick Henry train. He's gonna carry

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Speaker 3: dudes with him into the second and third level defense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's been awesome to watch this year.

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Speaker 3: It's been so much fun. Man. He's fourth and explosive

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Speaker 3: run rate now, I don't think that's going down this week, man,

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Speaker 3: So I agree with you that. And as far as

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Speaker 3: the pat the Baltimore pass defense, I think what's very

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Speaker 3: telling is they've switched around their corner alignments and what

532
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Speaker 3: they've been doing on the back end. Kyle Hamilton has

533
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Speaker 3: subjectively been bad as far as a slot coverage guy,

534
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Speaker 3: so they took him off of that last week of

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Speaker 3: the week before maybe put Marlon Humphrey back into the slot,

536
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Speaker 3: put Nate Wiggins on the outside, which has really helped them.

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Speaker 3: So I think you continue to see that, although I

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Speaker 3: do kind of question are they going to move it

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Speaker 3: back considering are you worried about andre Yoshavas beating you

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Speaker 3: in the slot? Probably not, So I do think we

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Speaker 3: probably see Humphrey go back to the boundary this week.

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Speaker 3: So I do think that that Baltimore's secondary is better

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Speaker 3: than what they've shown so far this year. But if

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Speaker 3: I got to talk about like strength for his strength, hey,

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Speaker 3: nobody's stopping Derek Henry Man nobody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, deebro our prediction of fifteen touchdowns this week that

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Speaker 2: we talked about all summer, it lay looks conservative at

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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean the over ten and a half

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Speaker 3: at plus money, how many rushing touchdowns does he have

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 2: I think he's got five five already and just narrowly

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Speaker 2: missed the sixth with that touchdown one yard line.

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Speaker 3: You love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this matchup is so good that I when I

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Speaker 2: Jordan Mason, which is totally fair.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, I mean, have him at RB

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Speaker 3: one for the week. Yeah, I got him at RB

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Speaker 3: one for the week.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would have him at RB one again.

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Speaker 2: Guys, let's get into that awesome bills at Texans matchup.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo obviously got the doors blown off them on Sunday

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Speaker 2: night in Baltimore. Deebro is still reeling from getting that

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Speaker 2: one wrong. It did just seem like a bad matchup

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Speaker 2: that just kind of got out of hand early on.

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Speaker 2: But I have to ask, and Deebrow will start with you,

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Speaker 2: are there any concerns whatsoever with the Bills after that one?

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Speaker 3: Not really. I mean again, I think it was things

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Speaker 3: got away from them very very quick. I mean, dude,

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Speaker 3: when when the game opens and Derek Henry breaks off

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Speaker 3: a eighty what was an eighty seven yard run on

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Speaker 3: you already know things are maybe going to go sideways here.

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Speaker 3: So I think it was just a game that got

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Speaker 3: away from the Buffalo Bills. I'm not worried about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: I'm not worried about a lot of parts of this

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Speaker 3: passing attack or the offense just in general. Outside of like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Khalil Shakir plays this week, But again,

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Speaker 3: if you're in deeper formats, probably a good week to

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Speaker 3: fire up Curtis Samuel.

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Speaker 2: Din that's the same question, you know, I don't really

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Speaker 2: think there's any concerns with Buffalo but you kind of

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Speaker 2: have to ask after a shell acking like that, are

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Speaker 2: there any concerns or was it just a bad matchup?

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Speaker 5: Here's one I think if you're a Bills fan, do

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Speaker 5: the Bills have enough pass catching firepower to play from

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Speaker 5: behind if.

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Speaker 4: They need to?

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Speaker 5: I mean they've got I like Khalil Chakuire quite a bit.

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Speaker 5: Dalton Kinkaid, very good pass catching tight end, not really

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Speaker 5: an explosive playmaker, but very good. Who else, Kean Coleman

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Speaker 5: work in progress, Curtis Samuel nice little Swiss army knife,

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Speaker 5: but not really a guy who's going to make plays

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Speaker 5: downfield for you, Mac Hollins, Marquez Valdez, scantling like that.

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Speaker 5: That's my question with this team because like when it

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Speaker 5: gets to be important games down the stretch, playoff games,

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Speaker 5: who do they turn to if they go down ten points,

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Speaker 5: fourteen points?

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Speaker 3: The point it's a really good point. It's it's it

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Speaker 3: win the matchups, to be the go to receiver. Well,

652
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: they don't have that anymore.

653
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: Do you guys have a lean on betting this one?

654
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, it's just a one point

655
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: spread and forty seven and a half is the total.

656
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: It started at forty six and a half and then

657
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: went up on DraftKings. Do you guys have a particular

658
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: play you.

659
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 5: Like, I'm not putting my money on it, but in

660
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 5: a couple of pools i'm in where I'm required to

661
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: make a pick, I'm taking the Taxans.

662
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'll take the Texans. I think the

663
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: spread is right. If anything, I'd probably take the Texans

664
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: and take the under. F I'm forced to bet this game,

665
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: I think that you're more likely to see, you know,

666
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: if Buffalo is down Shakir and again their offense kind

667
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: of sputters again this week. We know Buffalo's defense is good.

668
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: I think the under is probably the way that I

669
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: most likely to play this.

670
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to an AFC East Divisional matchup, Dolphins at Patriots.

671
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: We at least some of us thought that the high

672
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: level Dolphins players were somewhat QB proof for fantasy guys

673
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: like Tyreek Hill mine a Chan. Do we maybe need

674
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: to rethink that after what we saw in Week four

675
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: and start considering sitting You know, it's really hard to

676
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: see a kyle like Tyreek Hill, but do we need

677
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: to seriously consider it at least these Miami players until

678
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation improves fits.

679
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's not that I thought they weren't necessarily

680
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: bad QB proof. I did think they would be bad

681
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 5: QB resistant and so far not so resistant. Maybe it's

682
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 5: a mistake, but I still have a Chan and Tyreek

683
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: Hill ranked as starters. A Chan is my RB fourteen,

684
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: Tyreek is my wide receiver twenty one. The floor has

685
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 5: crumbled for both of these guys, though, like the floor

686
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 5: before we used to think maybe it was five or

687
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 5: six points. Now it's like one, two, three. But a

688
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 5: Chan and Tyreek and to a lesser extent, Jalen Wattle

689
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 5: two are still incredibly talented players with home run speed.

690
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 5: It hasn't happened yet, but even with a bad quarterback,

691
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 5: eventually someone's gonna hit on a big play, Like maybe

692
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: the Dolphins can spring a couple of big plays this

693
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 5: week against the Patriots. But yes, it's it's been pretty

694
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 5: bleak so far.

695
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: There's an old Canadian sitcom called Corner Gas that I

696
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: used to love watching when I was younger, and in it,

697
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: these small town cops they save money and instead of

698
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: getting bulletproof vests, they get bullet resistant vests, and that

699
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: is you know, it makes me think of that when

700
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: you talk about them being quarterback resistant in Miami. In

701
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: the scene, the partner who like finds out about this

702
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: is like, this shirt is wrinkle resistant. It's got a

703
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: lot of wrinkles. So maybe not the smartest thing from them. Dero,

704
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: what do you think? QB proof, QB resistant? QB you

705
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: don't care.

706
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: How are you approaching the Dolphins players.

707
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm fine with sitting everybody on Miami right now. It

708
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: depends on what your options are. I've got Tyrek Hill

709
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: and Jim and Wattle both as wide receiver threes right now.

710
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: I've got Wattle actually ranked ahead of Tyreek. I think

711
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: he's gonna get shadowed by Christian Gonzalez. That is a

712
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: real thing. So plus, looking at the coverage matchup, I

713
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: kind of like Wattle a little bit more. Anyway. I've

714
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: got Devon ah Chan as RB eighteen right now. It's

715
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: been tough man. And I think the other thing that, like,

716
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: it's not just the quarterback stuff. The other thing that

717
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: that I guess we're not talking about enough too, is

718
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 3: the fact that Miami's offensive line is not playing well.

719
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: Devon ah Chan, as crazy as it sounds, is not

720
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: breaking tackles right now, not even close to like not

721
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: even at a good level, but not even at a

722
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: level to where he was even like sniffing the same

723
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: area code as last year. Where he's like it's not

724
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: just like, okay, well he some baked in regression. It's

725
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: he's been one of the low end. And I kept

726
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: like writing him up as a muss start guy because

727
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: the volume in the role and all these kind of

728
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: things and the talent right now to this point, like

729
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: his tackle breaking metrics are pretty bad. The offensive line

730
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: is playing bad. I mean, this is just it's sad

731
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: to say right now, like not full on like an

732
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: offense to avoid, But I don't have any qualms of

733
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: sitting anybody in this offense right now. It really just

734
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: comes down to, like who are you debating starting Wattle,

735
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill or Devon.

736
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 2: H Chan against Let's go to Panthers at Bears. We heard,

737
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: you know, rumblings about Roshan Johnson going to be getting

738
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: more opportunity in the Bears backfield ended up being DeAndre Swift,

739
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: who had the huge game in Week four. Now they

740
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: get a tasty matchup against the Panthers run defense. Are

741
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: we going to rank either Roshan or Swift aggressively relative

742
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: to consensus against a very porous Carolina rush defense?

743
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: Debro, I mean, I've.

744
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: Got where's he at in consensus?

745
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: Worm sixteen?

746
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm right with consensus. I think our running

747
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: back just kind of falls off a cliff whenever you

748
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: get past like the top twelve maybe thirteen guys this week.

749
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: Just to be clear, that is that is Swift at sixteen,

750
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: Rochean is at thirty two.

751
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got Swift right now at RB fifteen. I

752
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: think a mid RB two is appropriate. And the thing

753
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: I want to highlight with Swift is my bigger takeaway

754
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: of last week was not so much like, oh, Swift

755
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: is awesome and we're all wrong, Like, okay, fine, he

756
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: had a twenty five percent mistackle rate last week, he

757
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: still only had one point five yards of a contact

758
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: per attempt. That's basement level, like, it's not good. I

759
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: think the bigger takeaway from last week was if you

760
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: have a running back with a heartbeat, freaking start them

761
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: against the Rams. This year, they are a bottom three

762
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: run defense. So while like we all consider and talk about, oh,

763
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: we're so wrong and DeAndre Swift just needed a kick

764
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 3: in the butt, bro, he got one of the best

765
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: run defenses, if not the best run defense in the NFL.

766
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: That is the get right elixir for everybody. He has

767
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: another really good matchup this week, probably gets the volume

768
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: because he played really good last week against a terrible

769
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: run defense. But if anything, trade away DeAndre Swift on

770
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: your off your teams, Like, I'm totally fine still making

771
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 3: that move. Even though Roshan Johnson's role didn't change at all,

772
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: this offensive line is still bad. Swift is still not amazing.

773
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: Just start everybody versus the Rams.

774
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: Fitz, what do you think about in this particular matchup

775
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: against the Panthers.

776
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, My takeaway from that Swift game against the Rams

777
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: last week was that the Rams are really missing Aaron

778
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 5: Donald because there was that thirty what thirty three yard

779
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 5: touchdowns run by DeAndre Swift where the middle of the

780
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: Rams line parted like the Red Sea, and I was

781
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 5: thinking that wouldn't happen if Aaron Donald were still there.

782
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: And this is why FITS is one of the most

783
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: accurate rankers in Fantasy with hot takes like the Rams

784
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: miss Aaron Donald hey Man.

785
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 5: So it's real, Like I have Deandre's Swift ranked RB twenty,

786
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 5: So I guess I'm below consensus on him. It's under

787
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: most circumstances. Yes, you're starting him, and the outlook is

788
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: pretty good against a defense that has given up the

789
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 5: second most rushing yards to running backs and the second

790
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 5: most touchdown runs to running backs. But I am hesitant

791
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 5: to embrace a running game that has only been functional

792
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: in one of its four games so far. The Bears

793
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: are graded twenty sixth by PFF in run blocking. Swift

794
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 5: had thirty or fewer rushing yards in each of his

795
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: first three games. He was RB forty two in a

796
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 5: half point PPR Fantasy scoring going in a week four,

797
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 5: which put him one spot behind Ty Johnson of the Bills.

798
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 5: Now he's up to RB twenty four, So yeah, I'm wary,

799
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: Like I don't know if the Chicago running game is

800
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 5: fixed yet or if the Rams defense is just so

801
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 5: broken that it could even make the Bears running game

802
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 5: look good. So, yes, the Panthers run defense is in disarray. Two,

803
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 5: you know, losing Derek Brown on a defense that was

804
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: already bad.

805
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: And who else did they lose it? They lost someone

806
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: a running back? Was it Mason? Yeah?

807
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 5: So I like this is this is a shabby run

808
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 5: defense and maybe Swift has another big game, but man,

809
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 5: I'm like not totally buying into a Chicago rushing renaissance.

810
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: So you guys mostly focus on Swift, which is fine.

811
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: What are you doing with Roshan this week? He's ranked

812
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: RB thirty two in consensus and a FVPR and he's

813
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 2: a range with a lot of number two running backs

814
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: in their backfield in this stretch. It's Braylen Allen, Joe Mixon,

815
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: who's there because of injury, Tyler Al's year, Roshawn Johnson,

816
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: Justice Hill, Antonio Gibson, Alexander Madison. That's RB twenty nine

817
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 2: through RB thirty five. Roshan's right in the middle of that. Again,

818
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Mixon is the only one who's not in RB two,

819
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: and obviously he's only there because of injury stuff. So

820
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: do we like him better than those backups? Obviously how

821
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: he already played. But do we like him better than

822
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: those backups? Do we think that's a fair range room

823
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: Are we considering starting him?

824
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Or is it more the Bears.

825
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: Rush attack has been so bad that we don't care

826
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: so much about the matchup de Bro.

827
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: His role didn't change that much. I mean, outside of

828
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 3: getting the touchdown last week he was. I mean the

829
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: touchdown saved him. Outside of that, if he didn't get

830
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: the touchdown, we probably wouldn't be ranking Roshawn Johnson even

831
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: as an RB three. So I mean I would start

832
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby over him. I got Justice Hill over him.

833
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: I got Chase Brown in a terrible matchup over him.

834
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: I think he's RB three worthy just because of the matchup,

835
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: and maybe he sucks out and gets another touchdown. But

836
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: to the other point that to that goes with everything fits,

837
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: he was saying, this offensive line for Chicago is still dreadful.

838
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: Before last week weeks one through three, the only offensive

839
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: line that created fewer adjusted yards before contact per attempt

840
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: was the damn Jets, their second worst. So this offensive

841
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: line is horrible. So it's tough for me to invest

842
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: in a guy who's rolled it and change he got

843
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: there based off of a touchdown. Maybe doesn't even get

844
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 3: the reds on work this week considering what Swift did

845
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: last week. So I'm okay with Roshan, But like, do

846
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: I think that he deserves like definitively to be an

847
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: RB three or is a really strong flex play? Probably not.

848
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: Like if we get word that Zamir White's going to

849
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 3: be banged up and maybe limited, I'll probably move Madison

850
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: above him. I'll probably move a few other guys like

851
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: Eckler depending on the b rob News is going to

852
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 3: go above him. So yeah, I mean he he's okay,

853
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: but you're really touchdown hunting if you're playing Roshan fits.

854
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think I've got him like ahead

855
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 5: of guys such as Braylen Allen and Tank Bigsby because

856
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 5: of matchup. And I guess the encouraging thing if you

857
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 5: are faced with starting Roshan Johnson is that Khalil Herbert

858
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: has been totally a stout of the picture for the

859
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 5: Bears now. So yeah, like you're not excited about starting him.

860
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 5: But if you have a hero RB build and your

861
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 5: hero is Saquon Barkley and he's on by, he might

862
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 5: have very little choice.

863
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: When I think about my favorite fall activities, there are

864
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: plenty of fun adventures on the list, but right at

865
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: the top every fall is going to football games live.

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869
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,520
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899
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Speaker 1: Game time? Guys?

900
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to Cardinals at forty nine ers Kyler Murray

901
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals passing game didn't quite have the huge

902
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: blow up we maybe expected against a terrible Commanders defense

903
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: in Week four. I'm not saying we are panicking, but

904
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: scale of one to ten. What is the panic level

905
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: on Arizona's offense after that somewhat disappointing performance fits.

906
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 5: Maybe a six. The needle isn't into the red yet,

907
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 5: but it's past the halfway point. Kyler has really only

908
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 5: had one good game this season, and it was against

909
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 5: our friends, the Rams, and you would have thought he

910
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 5: would have put up better numbers against the Lions and Commanders,

911
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: who do not exactly have airtight pass defenses.

912
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: Didn't happen.

913
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 5: So maybe Trey McBride's return from a concussion this week helps,

914
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 5: But McBride only missed one of those three lackluster games

915
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 5: that Kyler had, And if Kyler can't get it going,

916
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 5: it's obviously gonna hurt Marvin Harrison, Junior McBride, maybe even

917
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: James Connor because they're not going to be scoring as

918
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 5: many points or getting, you know, the nice, long, sustained

919
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: drives you want to see. Although so far, Connor looks

920
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: like a good investment. Two hundred yard games, three touchdowns,

921
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 5: no worries there so far. But yeah, I'm a little

922
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 5: worried about how Kyler has played so far.

923
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: What do you think, Debra?

924
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked about this out on x. The other day,

925
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: Kyler Stands kind of came for me and said that

926
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: I was trolling them and stuff. I was just like, look,

927
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: I'm just presenting facts, man, Like Kyler has not been

928
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: good for MISS the season. Outside of the RAMS. Kyler Murray,

929
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: outside of the RAMS week is averaging thirteen point three

930
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: Fantasy points per game. You take away the massive RAMS game,

931
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: and that would be good for QB twenty four in

932
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 3: the season, and I'm not usually Oh well, it's games.

933
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 3: Let's take away his best game, bro. Yeah, Okay, he's

934
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: had other opportunities versus beatable secondaries, and he's looked very pedestrian.

935
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: That it's it's it's a fact, okay. Like even if

936
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: you take away just okay, fantasy scoring in general, outside

937
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: of thirty seven qualifying quarterbacks twenty first ten yards per attempt,

938
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: he is has the fourteenth highest off turf target rate.

939
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 3: So he's not accurate, he's not playing well. The rushing's

940
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: not even saving him. I'm not saying it's full blown,

941
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: like okay, bells and whistles and panic mode and all

942
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: these kind of things, like he's got some get right

943
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: matchups over the next few weeks. Like I'm sorry to

944
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 3: cover your ears, FITZI, but he gets the Packers next

945
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: week and their secondary is not amazing, So maybe that's

946
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: a get right game, or maybe that's just a huge

947
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: James Connor week. But yeah, I'm kind of worried about Kyler.

948
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are just automatically thinking, Okay,

949
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: well plug and play QB one, fire him up, let's go,

950
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, uh, I mean, there's a lot of

951
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 3: other guys in that QB one realm that you might

952
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: be a little bit better off playing than Kyler Murray.

953
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: Can you put a number to it? One to ten?

954
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: Panic level?

955
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: He looks terrible again this week. It's give me about

956
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: a seven and a half. I'm at about a six

957
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: and a half right now.

958
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: That's fair.

959
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Packers, let's go to our next key question.

960
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: We know Jayden Reed is good. How much do we

961
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: like the other guys though, D'antavian Wicks, Romeo Dobbs, Tucker

962
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: Craft with Jordan love Back and also no Christian Watson fits.

963
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I'll start with you as the Packers guy.

964
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, we like all of them. Against the Rams, it's

965
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 5: the Rams. This seems to be a running theme of

966
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 5: this show. Dantavian Wicks led all NFL receivers in air

967
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 5: yards last week with two hundred Tucker Craft six for

968
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 5: fifty three in a touchdown. Romeo Dobbs hasn't given us

969
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 5: a big game yet, but would It's surprising anyone if

970
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 5: he had a seven catch, one hundred yard game against

971
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 5: this Rams d defense.

972
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: Probably not.

973
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 5: The Rams are thirty first in DVOA against the pass

974
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 5: they've given up or are giving up a league high

975
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 5: nine point one yards per pass attempt, no one else

976
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 5: giving up more than eight point five, and their opponent

977
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 5: passer rating is one hundred and twenty two point seven,

978
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: which means that pretty much everyone they face every quarterback

979
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 5: looks like a mashup of Dan Marino, Joe Montana, and

980
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 5: Todd Brady. So yeah, I mean like, I think it's

981
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 5: gonna be a good game. Of course, some of the

982
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 5: stats from last week are skewed because the Packers dug

983
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 5: themselves a twenty eight nothing hole and had to throw

984
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 5: like crazy to try to catch up. But still, man

985
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 5: like against the Rams defense, all these guys look like

986
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: attractive fantasy plays for Week.

987
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: Five, We're we're ranking Wicks ahead of Dubs, right like

988
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: well ahead, Yeah, yeah.

989
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

990
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Deebra, I know that you have been a big

991
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft fan for a while, so I want to

992
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: get your thoughts on him. Also the receivers and just

993
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: how you know aggressive. We were ranking all these guys

994
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: this week, said when.

995
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: They drafted a man, when they drafted Tucker Craft, and

996
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: Luke Muskrave I said, this is the Hayden Hurst and

997
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews situation, and Tucker Craft is Mark Andrews, not

998
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: Hayden Nursed. Yeah, love him man. The fact that he

999
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: has continued to ball out, I think it's it's very telling,

1000
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: and I love a win. Coaching staffs when they throw

1001
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: draft capital and stuff out the window and they say, look,

1002
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: you you're the better player. You're playing better, so you're

1003
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: the starter. And that's what Tucker Craft has done. He

1004
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: proved himself last year. He's a top twelve tight end

1005
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: for me rest of season. And this week, yeah, it's

1006
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: it's basically this week is start every packer that you got. Man.

1007
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: I'm extremely high on don Tavian Wicks, like I've got

1008
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: him as a top twenty four wide receiver. Maybe I'm

1009
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: I'm over the moon with him. But like, I think

1010
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: this game is going to absolutely shoot out. You have

1011
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 3: two defenses on both sides that can allow points in production.

1012
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: I think this is a huge get because we haven't

1013
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: seen a massive game from Josh Jacobs yet. Did you

1014
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: just see what DeAndre Swift did to this run defense?

1015
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: Just Jacobs is going off this week.

1016
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 6: Man.

1017
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: The only thing that keeps the wide receivers from going

1018
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: off is Jacob's having himself a freaking day.

1019
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 5: Just to clarify, Debro comparing Tucker Craft to Mark Andrews,

1020
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 5: you meant that as a compliment.

1021
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 3: Oh yes, not not rude. Oh that's far but true.

1022
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 3: Not to parentheses, not twenty twenty four Mark Andrews.

1023
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: Every other year of Mark andrew Tucker Craft is Mark

1024
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: Andrews parentheses derogatory.

1025
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 3: I do appreciate the clarification because it's.

1026
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: Needed, especially because I actually, I actually I'm starting Craft

1027
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: over Andrews in a Dynasty league this week, although part

1028
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: of me is wondering if the Kyle Pitts breakout this

1029
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 2: week is a sign that maybe tight Ends are coming

1030
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: back and should get off get off Mark Andrews.

1031
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they're going in the right direction. We'll see.

1032
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: I suppose, by the way, Jane Reid inside the top

1033
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: six amongst swide receivers, because that's why we're not really

1034
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: messing him, because that would be like I said, we

1035
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: know he's good and uh an obvious start. But yeah,

1036
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: this is a smash game for the Packers for sure.

1037
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: Before we get to the key question for Sunday Nights

1038
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: Cowboys at Steelers matchup, I want to ask you guys

1039
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: about your Uber East Sunday Night Meals of the Week debro.

1040
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: What must Order food gets you reaching for your Uber

1041
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: Eats app for great game day deals when you think

1042
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh.

1043
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 3: Oh, dude, that that comes down to, Uh, it's easy.

1044
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: The one on one for me is Parogi's, Dude, It's

1045
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 3: it's Parogi's. I was very sad and I'm gonna throw

1046
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: this out here, not only for Pittsburgh, but I'm staring

1047
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: at you, Canton. When we went to the Fantasy Football Expo,

1048
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: I was very sad when we went to the hotel

1049
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 3: and they had taken Parogi's off of the menu. So

1050
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 3: I definitely got to get my fix. If I'm thinking

1051
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: about Pittsburgh, it's got to be Parogi's, and it's either

1052
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: going to be from Parogi's plus or cop out Parogi's.

1053
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: They just fantastic man fit.

1054
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: You mentioned Perogis as well when we were talking about this,

1055
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: but you've got another choice too.

1056
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Parogi's. I'm from Milwaukee, big Polish population,

1057
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 5: like h Perogis. I'm all about the Progies, but it

1058
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 5: is a void in my life that I have never

1059
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 5: had a Primante brother sandwich with the like pastrami, with

1060
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 5: the French fries and the Coleslaw right on the sandwich.

1061
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 4: Like, I am all about that.

1062
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: I need to fix that and get myself to Permanty

1063
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 5: Brothers or or have Uber Eats from Pittsburgh.

1064
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: I have had Permanty Brothers before. I've been to a

1065
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: couple of Pirates games in Pittsburgh, just going up to

1066
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 2: see the coolest baseball stadium, and I've gotten Permanty Brothers,

1067
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: went up there.

1068
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: It is good. It is good.

1069
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like say it's the all time greatest

1070
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: sandwich I've ever had, but it was very good and

1071
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,479
Speaker 2: I would I would definitely recommend it. I am going

1072
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: to protest the fact that we didn't start this until

1073
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: the week after the Ravens were hosting Sunday Night Football

1074
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: and say that last week it would have been krab

1075
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: Cakes for me. You guys already picked the good Pittsburgh one.

1076
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 2: So I will look backwards and say in week four,

1077
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: if we were already doing this for uber each.

1078
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: In Baltimore, I.

1079
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: Can't start off with a Pittsburgh Baltimore one.

1080
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: So there you have it.

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00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: Our Uber Eats Sunday Night meals of the week. We

1082
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: got Parogi's, we got Primancy Brothers. Last week it would

1083
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 2: have been Krabcakes. Uber Eats has the best game day

1084
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: deals all season long. Order now for game day all right,

1085
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 2: in this matchup an interesting matchup for Sunday Night football.

1086
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: Justin Fields typically does run more. It feels like as

1087
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: the season goes along, he's now coming off his best

1088
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 2: game of the year to rushing touchdowns in that one.

1089
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: How high are we ranking him this week against the

1090
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: Cowboys or do we think it's the Steelers running back room,

1091
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: namely Najia Harris, who will take advantage of this Cowboys

1092
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: run defense debro.

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00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 3: I've got Justin Fields at QB six right now. I

1094
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: think the conversation for him starts at QB five. I mean,

1095
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: he's just However, we want to slice this guys, he's

1096
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: gonna run, us is not gonna be able to bring pressure.

1097
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: Their entire pass rush is basically gone right now. Fantastic

1098
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: single high matchup for George Pickens and Pat friarm Youth.

1099
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: So whether he's gonna run, he's gonna throw the ball,

1100
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: it's a fantastic or he's gonna sit in the pocket

1101
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: and then just carve up a very I'm not gonna

1102
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 3: say overrated, but this is not the secondary we thought

1103
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: we were getting, or at least to the skill level

1104
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 3: and shut down potential entering the twenty twenty four season. Yeah,

1105
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: so all things fields for me this week, man.

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00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: Fit's what do you think? Where are your ranking fields?

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00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 5: I fields QB seven, but I would not have any

1108
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 5: complaint with him being at QB five or QB six.

1109
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 5: I've Nijee Harris ranked running back seventeen.

1110
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 4: It is a good.

1111
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 5: Setup for both guys, and Deebro talked about it. With

1112
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 5: no Micah Parsons or Tamarcus Lawrence for the Cowboys, their

1113
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 5: pass rush has just been wiped out. Probably no Jalen

1114
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 5: Warren or Cordero Patterson for the Steelers, so it's pretty

1115
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 5: much gonna be a the Nause show for the Pittsburgh

1116
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 5: Running Game. How exactly is it going to look? Worm

1117
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 5: that I cannot tell you. You are asking me to

1118
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 5: light a lantern and crawl around inside the headspace of

1119
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith, and I don't know what I'm gonna find.

1120
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 5: Cave drawings of a game plan that has a bunch

1121
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 5: of bunch of manufactured touches for Darnell Washington and Calvin

1122
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 5: Austin the iid do not make me go splunking down there, worms,

1123
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know how it's gonna look. But

1124
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 5: Justin Fields and Najie Harris are both attractive plays.

1125
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 3: I didn't think we were going to get to spurlunking

1126
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 3: in Arthur Smith's cranium. That is that is I do.

1127
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 3: I do love the idea mental image that is one

1128
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 3: hell of one.

1129
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: I do love the idea that his playbook is like

1130
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: drawing on gaves.

1131
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: That was that was fantastic fingerpaint.

1132
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: You have to know hieroglyphics to read his playbook. All right,

1133
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to the last question on the slate here

1134
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Saints at Chiefs Monday night football.

1135
00:54:59,400 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Who is it?

1136
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: This is an easy one. Who is it that will

1137
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: step up in Rashie Rice's absence. We saw Travis Kelcey

1138
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: last week, you know, after Rice went down seven catches

1139
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: eighty nine yards, his best game of the season. So

1140
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: it will be Travis Kelcey. Will it be Xavier Worthy

1141
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: highly Tweder rookie had some explosive plays. Or is it

1142
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: door number three? Is it someone else, whether it's a

1143
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 2: running back, whether it's a lesser known receiver, whether it's anybody,

1144
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: whether maybe the answer is nobody steps up in his absence?

1145
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: How are you approaching this without Rashi Rice debro.

1146
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Travis Kelcey. He's a security blanket. He's

1147
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 3: gonna be the number one option for the Chiefs offense.

1148
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 3: So I mean you're you're also facing an Orleans Saints defense.

1149
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 3: It's given up the seventh post receiving arts, the tight ends.

1150
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: So I think Kelsey's gonna be the go to. And

1151
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm really kind of curious how much of the yards

1152
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: of the catch stuff that Xavier Worthy picks up and

1153
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: what that role looks like Like, I think Kelsey probably

1154
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: rolls into that Rashi Rice role, But I'm wondering if

1155
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: because Xavier Worthy was quietly a really good run out

1156
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 3: of the catch guy in Texas like top twenty and

1157
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 3: multiple different seasons and Yack per reception, So I think

1158
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: he picks up part of that. But the number one

1159
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: guy for Mahomes is going to be Kelsey moving forward,

1160
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: especially in this matchup.

1161
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: Fitz, do you agree?

1162
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: Are you still thinking that, you know, maybe kind of

1163
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: the long term, they might still want to save Kelsey

1164
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: to agree to a degree for January and it ends

1165
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: up being Worthy or someone else. By the way, Rice

1166
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: is officially on IR as of the time we're taking this.

1167
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: No announcement about you know, long term, like if this

1168
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: was truly an ACL or after the season or anything,

1169
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: but he is on IR officially.

1170
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1171
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 5: So Deebro covered it pretty well, like I don't think

1172
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 5: you can spare Kelsey with the situation they're in right now,

1173
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 5: and Deebro, I think covered it pretty well for week five.

1174
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 5: But long term, worm you mentioned door number three, I

1175
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 5: think you have to at least knock on door number

1176
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 5: three for the long term, which maybe is considering a trade.

1177
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 5: Like we saw Kelsey step up last week, but how

1178
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 5: can you lean on a thirty five year old tight

1179
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 5: end this hard for a full season? And by the

1180
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 5: way Travis kelce thirty six on Saturday. Happy Birthday, Travis Kelcey.

1181
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 5: But this has to be so frustrating for Chiefs GM

1182
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 5: Brett Viach. They won the title last year even though

1183
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 5: they were seriously under manned at the wide receiver position,

1184
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 5: and Veach goes out and signs Hollywood Brown draft Savior

1185
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 5: Worthy in the first round. Hollywood as a season ending injury.

1186
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 5: Never plays Worthy nice addition, but he has not He

1187
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 5: hasn't had more than five touches in any game this year.

1188
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 5: Like I don't know if he's cut out to get

1189
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 5: ten or eleven targets every week, like he is more

1190
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 5: seasoning than main ingredients. Then you lose a guy who

1191
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 5: was a main ingredient, Rashee Rice. I mean, if Patrick

1192
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 5: Mahomes is the stake in this offense, Rashee Rice was

1193
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 5: the mash potatoes. Who is going to step up with

1194
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 5: Rice out? Like Justin Watson, Juju Smith, Schuster, Nicole Hardman,

1195
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 5: Sky Moore, Like they're just not appealing options here. So

1196
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 5: still some optimism that the Rice injury isn't a serious,

1197
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 5: like really long term thing, maybe four to six if

1198
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 5: they're lucky, But don't you think Veach is at least

1199
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 5: making some calls these days. And I know there's been

1200
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: talk about the Chiefs requiring Tyreek Hill. I don't think

1201
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 5: that's gonna happen because of the financial commitment Miami still

1202
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 5: has with him. But what about Deontay Johnson who is

1203
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 5: on a one year deal with the Panthers, a team

1204
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 5: that is not going to the playoffs and could really

1205
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 5: use draft picks.

1206
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask yet, Deontay Johnson, Amari Cooper, DeAndre Hopkins?

1207
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: Is Johnson? Is he your favorite?

1208
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1209
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 5: I just think he makes the most sense as far

1210
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 5: as what like a guy who could be a high

1211
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 5: volume pass catcher right away and a team that simply

1212
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 5: isn't going anywhere and doesn't need him.

1213
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: Dee ro, do you have kind of a top choice

1214
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: that you'd like to see the man?

1215
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shout out Joe on this one, and I

1216
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 3: hate to do that, but I'm gonna do that because

1217
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 3: I'm not going to take credit for this, But Keenan

1218
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: Allen makes so much sense on both different sides, Like

1219
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: the Bears aren't going any like Okay, fine, if you

1220
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: want to say the Bears are going anywhere or not

1221
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: this year, they don't need Keenan Allen to definitively, you know,

1222
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 3: prove or disprove the evaluation of Caleb Williams. You still

1223
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 3: have Dj Moore, you still have romadoons A. I think

1224
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 3: En plus Keenan Allen is still only on that one

1225
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: year deal, Like, he makes so much sense for Kansas

1226
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: City and a player that like they know him quite well,

1227
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: they've played him in multiple years and he fits that

1228
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: rashid rice like he could play outside, could play inside.

1229
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 3: The versatility, giving open and being a guy that is

1230
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: a trusted veteran like Keenan Allen makes the most sense

1231
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: to me.

1232
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: It makes sense as a fit. It would be weird.

1233
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: I know it's a business and he's already not in

1234
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: La anymore. It would be weird after sing him with

1235
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: the Chargers for so long to see him in Chiefs Red,

1236
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: But it's nature of the ning.

1237
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: I would love to see Keenan Allen get a ring.

1238
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: Talk about a guy who's been on so many up

1239
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: and down teams that deserves to enjoy the fruits of winning,

1240
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: like Keenan Allen and getting a ring.

1241
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: Dude that neither you guys mentioned, and maybe there's reasons

1242
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: for it. You know, particular the fact that they're Indivision.

1243
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: But the big name on the trade block right now

1244
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: is DeVante Adams.

1245
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: I don't see what happened on the Raiders, Yeah, I

1246
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 3: mean in division money and why. Yeah, I don't see

1247
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 3: it happening. I think Devonte is is Jets or bust baby.

1248
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: I think that's where he's at.

1249
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll wrap up there. Thank you everybody for tuning in.

1250
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: Best of Lucky in your Week five matchups. Hopefully it

1251
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: goes better than Debro's prop bets did on Thursday Night Football.

1252
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: For Devro and Fits, I'm Ryan Warmley. Thank you everybody

1253
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: for tuning in and we'll see again next time. Thanks

1254
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1255
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,560
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