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Speaker 2: Please Hey boo, it's me Ross and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 2: by ros Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: The podcast where I talk to people that I like

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, thanks for doing this. Are you in

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Speaker 1: I always talk about how there's not enough good New

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Speaker 1: Totally. Although I did go to the Chelsea Hotel the

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Speaker 3: Twenty ten we had email, we had smartphones, we were

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Speaker 1: We cover only the most important news here at Ghosted,

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Speaker 3: It is too like I felt like that story. I

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Speaker 1: I hope that the two of them are doing crowd

436
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: work specials together. I hope that she becomes like his

437
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: little sidekick. Good for them.

438
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: I would love to hear like a Haunted Dolls crowd work,

439
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: because this is my problem with CrowdWork, not to get

440
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: two inside baseball of comedy. It's so often you hear

441
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: people ask the same kind of surface level questions, right right,

442
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: how do you two know each other? How long have

443
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 3: you been together? Are you dating? What do you do

444
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: for work? I feel like a haunted doll doesn't make

445
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 3: small talk. I feel like she's going to ask the

446
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: big questions right off the bat. Yeah, you know what

447
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean. What's the layout of your bedroom? Do you

448
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: fear death?

449
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: Like?

450
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: This is what I want to hear in crowd work,

451
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: like cut to the chase.

452
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think like Annabel is one of these

453
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: people where I do think it's time for her to

454
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: make a move, Like I think she's had the two

455
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: or three movies about her now and like this is

456
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: the real woman. This is the inventing Anna or whoever

457
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: what was that woman's name, an Adelvi. You know, it's

458
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: like now she needs to do dancing with the stars.

459
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: We need to see more of her. It's time for

460
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: her to establish who she is. You know, we've heard

461
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: the stories. That's right, It's time for you to get

462
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: out there and spread your wings, Annabel. So if it's comedy, listen,

463
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of people that are not comedians

464
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: that have gotten into comedy and a lot of them

465
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: have very great careers. And I am not bitter about that.

466
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: I think if you, if you put your head down

467
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: and do the work, who cares if you're haunted doll

468
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: nepo baby.

469
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: Like you can sell tickets, you know what good for you?

470
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: Now here's an unfortunate part of the story. Have you

471
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: heard about the paranormal investigator who was on tour with

472
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: her who recently died. No, yeah, this one. Listen, there's

473
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: definitely lots of people on the internet that the reason

474
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: that this is news, let's be honest, is because people

475
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: want to make the connection she killed them. That's hard

476
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: to say. So they have released his cause of death,

477
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: which was cardiac related. It was ruled as a natural death.

478
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, they were touring together. He worked for the

479
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: paranormal investigation group that the Warren family started, which is

480
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: called New England Society for Psychic Research or nests HER.

481
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: So it's unfortunate he was fifty four years old.

482
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: Oh that's sad.

483
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: It is sad, and you know it's it's ones where

484
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: no matter what I feel like, it's now a part

485
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: of the Annabel story, like for eternity, right, it is

486
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: so interesting when it's happening in real time because if

487
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: this if we heard this story one hundred years ago

488
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: and then the doll was with a man who dies,

489
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: like we would just be like Doll did it case closed? Yeah, okay,

490
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: this this happened a couple of weeks ago. Okay, So

491
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's weird and it's uh, I guess

492
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,479
Speaker 1: it's a coincidence. I don't know.

493
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: It's tough though, because like I think, it's like it's

494
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: so interesting to make these connections with the past, right,

495
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: with something paranormal or spiritual or ghostly. But it does

496
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: feel like when a man dies relatively young fifty four,

497
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: you know, you don't expect to die of a cardiac

498
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: evento fifty four, and people are like, we got to

499
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of this doll. It's like that

500
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: is a little disrespectful.

501
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: Definitely.

502
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know this guy probab as a

503
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: family that's like, hey, you don't have to like we

504
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: had a doctor look at him. You don't have to

505
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: like take the doll apart and see if she did it,

506
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: see if his blood is on her hands.

507
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Right right, And and that's true for all of this

508
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: stuff and me doing comedy about haunted places and whatever.

509
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: It's it is a weird thing where like time is

510
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: a part of the step. Like so many places you

511
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: go to like Gettysburg, for example, Okay, if this was

512
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: people that died in a war last week, it would

513
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: be way different.

514
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: So just respectful.

515
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, for us to be like, ooh, I got my

516
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: device and we're gonna see if we could talk to them,

517
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Like that's it's weird.

518
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree. But I mean I think, like

519
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: there's that expression, right, comedy equals tragedy plus time, which

520
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: is also the recipe for ghosts.

521
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, I.

522
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: Think that's like exactly right, you know what I mean.

523
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: It makes so much sense where especially the longer ago,

524
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: something happens as long as you're as long as people

525
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: are like understanding of the realities of it, giving it

526
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: some distance and giving it the respect. I think there's

527
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: a big difference between yeah, this person they you know,

528
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: the funeral is next week and let's go tell some jokes.

529
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: What we read some kind of spectral readout device.

530
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean this man worked with them. I

531
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: think I read over a decade the thing about Ed

532
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: and Lorraine Lawren. They came at all of this as Catholics,

533
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: and they were very convinced that there's demons and devils

534
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: and that Annabelle was a demon. And so that's part

535
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: of the story is that this man was working with

536
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 1: what his bosses are, I don't know the philosophy of

537
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: his company or group. They believe there was a demon

538
00:31:54,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: in that doll, and unfortunately also died, so rest in peace.

539
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: His name is Dan Rivera Rivera.

540
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: That's right, that's really, you know, it's it's very sad.

541
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: As as Jews I grew up not you know, not

542
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: ascribing demonology two objects. It would just be like probably indigestion,

543
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: that's what you're feeling. That's what my family would describe

544
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: if you're around a doll and you'd be like, well,

545
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: you shouldn't you shouldn't look at that spooky doll or

546
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: that creepy doll right after you've eaten so much dairy.

547
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: That's the problem.

548
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: It's the day.

549
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: That the whole conversation is also difficult because like these

550
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: people have pushed onto the world that this doll has

551
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: a demon in that totally, if somebody dies while working

552
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: with it, that is a truth. That is that. But

553
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: how were we supposed to not be like, yeah, he

554
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: was working with a demon, like.

555
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: Totally, and that's what that's what he said. Maybe you're right,

556
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: I think there is a point to that of like

557
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: when one wants to justify actions during grief, you go, oh,

558
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: he would have wanted it that way. It's like maybe

559
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: he would have wanted them to be like, hey, check

560
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: that fucking demon doll out that have been traveling around

561
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: the country when yeah, dust for doll fingerprints.

562
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, Okay, one more important news story. Please,

563
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: did you note that machine gun Kelly thinks he might

564
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: be part alien? I did not know that, or MGK

565
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: as he goes, oh, I didn't know that.

566
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: He I didn't know that. He he did like KFC

567
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: or it doesn't mean Kentucky Fried Chicken anymore. MGK did

568
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: at KFC.

569
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did so. Apparently one of his twelve herbs

570
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: and spices is Planet Mars. He went on Watch What

571
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: Happens Live, so he was asked about his age, and

572
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: he responded with a state of confusion. He said, it's weird, dude.

573
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if my age. I don't know if

574
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: it exists, he said, And then Andy Cohen said, you

575
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: have a Mariah Carey connection to your age. It's very fluid.

576
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: Is that what you mean? And he said, no, I

577
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: don't know many facts about my life. So I don't know.

578
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm starting to be like, if my skin rips open,

579
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: it heals really quickly. I'm starting to be like, who's

580
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: my dad? Andy Cohen says, do you think you could

581
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: be otherworldly? And machine Gun Kelly says, I asked my

582
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: mom if there's any period of time that went missing

583
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: or a tall, slender creature, and then she says that

584
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: tracks she told me that she was abducted at one point.

585
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So you know, I feel like the

586
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 3: headline focused a lot on machine Gun. Kelly thinks he

587
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: might be part extraterrestrial, when like, the real headline is

588
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: like machine gun Kelly reveals his mom was ducked in

589
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: at one point. We gotta make sure her machine and

590
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: Kelly's mom's okay.

591
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also his skin heals quickly, and I guess

592
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: that maybe that's something that aliens go through.

593
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but Wolverine from the X Men, that's

594
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: a classic feature of his. So maybe he's an X Man.

595
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Okay, he could be one of those things, a mutant. Yeah,

596
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: good for him, good for him. Yeah, it's a great

597
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: time for people like matt Rice and Michigan Kelly. Excuse me,

598
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: m MGK I'm sorry.

599
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: Imagine being like rich and famous enough that you say

600
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: that on TV and people are like, sure, we should

601
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,479
Speaker 3: act like that's a normal thing to say.

602
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: I know that is part of being a big star

603
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: that I feel like there's a lot of like Okay,

604
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: sure yeah, part extraterrestrial. Sure yeah, let's good with it. Hey, Josh,

605
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: can I play you some ghost voices?

606
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

607
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for EVP or ev plice. Okay. So

608
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: EVP it stands for Electronic Voice Phenomenal. Okay. So what

609
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: I do is I go to YouTube and I find

610
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: people's EVPs that they have posted, which are you know,

611
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: anytime a ghost is speaking, sometimes it's like with someone's

612
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: video camera or they're like purposefully trying to like ghost

613
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: hunt and record whatever. You'll see what I'm talking about.

614
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: So I've got two of them for you, and I

615
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: want you to tell me what you think the ghost

616
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: is saying, and then I'm going to give you an

617
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: ABCD with one of the options being what the ghost

618
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: hunter believes the ghost is saying.

619
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: I'm ready, okay.

620
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: This first one was posted by RGV Paranormal Lockdown eight

621
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: to nine, which is Rio Grande Valley paranormal Oh of course.

622
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: So this was at a place called the Mercedes fire Station.

623
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: They captured a ghost saying this, what is it saying?

624
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: That's quick?

625
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it's a hungry ghost and it's saying, lasagnya,

626
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: it's the ghost of Garfield, Garfield's ghost. Yeah, is Garfield's

627
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: still alive? What do we know about it?

628
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah? Where has Garfield been? Maybe he and Annabelle need

629
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: to go team up to tour together. Okay, Lasagna, Well

630
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: that is not what our GV Paranormal Lockdown eight to

631
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: nine thought. Okay, did they think it was he? Back

632
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: at cha?

633
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: That's a funny thing for a ghost to say. We're like, hey,

634
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: look a good ghost and the ghost is like BArch.

635
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Do they think it was b heck? Yeah? See they're

636
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: behind you or d macchiado.

637
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: Oh it does sound like mykeiado there. Firefighters are like, hey,

638
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm going on a Starbucks run you anything. I think

639
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 3: it's the third one.

640
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: They're behind you. They believe it is saying.

641
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ghost is just stoked.

642
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: Now that we know that, let's hear.

643
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: I'm not sold on heck yeat.

644
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: I know my neither and I think it's machiado. Okay,

645
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: here's one more. This is from Rolling Hill Asylum in

646
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: East Bethany, New York, and this is in a room

647
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: there that's called the Baby Room Infirmary. What is this

648
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: ghost saying?

649
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: I guess Okay, the last interpretation is really sitting in

650
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: my head because it does kind of sound like this

651
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 3: ghost is going it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, totally it doesn't. Well, here's some options.

653
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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 1: Did they think it was he they got soup? B

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Speaker 1: thank god soon see it's awesome. Or d hang on

656
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Speaker 1: Sue maybe someone named Sue. They were telling her hang on.

657
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Speaker 3: Can you play it one more time?

658
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: Okay, you're still going with awesome.

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Speaker 3: It does sound like they've got soup. I'm going with

660
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 3: they've got soup. I'm off my original thought.

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00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Actually, your first instinct was correct. Whoa they believe it

662
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: says it's awesome. Okay, let's listen again. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: be a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the ghost just like watched the first season of

665
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Speaker 3: the Sopranos and has no one to talk to about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that's what a two thousand and

667
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: four ghost would be like. Let's be honest. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: last thing, please, I just want to hear your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on all this kind of stuff. So I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: throw out some topics and tell me if you know,

671
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: maybe you have a thought or a story or who knows,

672
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: what what do you think about psychics?

673
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Speaker 3: My friend almost convinced me to go to one recently.

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Speaker 1: Really like like at a storefront kind of a place.

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00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: Well, there's one in my neighborhood because my friend she's like,

676
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: you gotta go to a psychic and I was like,

677
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: all right, yeah, I'll try whatever, and then we'll really

678
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: go to a psychic instead of therapy or whatever, so

679
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: like Cheryl'll give it a shot. And she was like okay,

680
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: But the one I went to most recently was like

681
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty dollars and was bad, like said

682
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff that was like verifiably untrue about

683
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Speaker 3: my life. And then I was like, oh, there's a

684
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: psychic in my neighborhood who has like a sandwich board

685
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: sign out in front of her establishment that says like

686
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Speaker 3: fifteen dollars, And I was like, that's an amount I

687
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: can spend on a psychic. Oh yeah, you know, I

688
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: get fifteen dollars for cocktail I've got fifteen dollars for

689
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: a psychic. But then I remembered my neighbor was enemies

690
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Speaker 3: with her, so I had to tell my neighbor would

691
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: be like, hey, why are you enemies with this psychic?

692
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: And she was like, don't hold it against her. I

693
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: think we just got into an argument on the street

694
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 3: one time, so like, I've never done it, but I am.

695
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 3: I was having like kind of a rough week and

696
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: I was at a vulnerable point and was psychic curious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but were you going for a specific reason,

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Speaker 1: like were you trying to like talk to someone that's passed,

699
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: or like what were you trying.

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Speaker 3: To I'm I'm in a position of kind of like

701
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: professional possibility. I think it is the optimistic way to

702
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 3: say it. Sure, And I think even a couple of

703
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: weeks ago, I was I felt a little more unsteady

704
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: with how things were maybe unfolding, and I was like, oh,

705
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: I hope this timeline materializes just right. And then my

706
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 3: friend was like, you should talk to a psychic about

707
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: this and like get some kind of clarity on the

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Speaker 3: general outlook.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I live in LA and it's like

710
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I've been to so many of these fifteen dollars psychics,

711
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: and they know the drill because they know everyone there's

712
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: trying to make it a show business.

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00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: That's so funny.

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00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, I see, you gotta do something

715
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: with writing, you gotta. They're always like, you gotta make

716
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: your own stuff. You know, it's so funny.

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00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: They alway sound like my manager.

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Speaker 1: Exactly basically the same thing. What do you think about Bigfoot?

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Speaker 3: I'm a little skeptical about Bigfoot as a because, Okay,

720
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: so when people say Bigfoot, they make it sound like

721
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: it's one guy, which that I don't believe in, Right,

722
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: I don't think there's there's one big hairy guy that

723
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 3: just like trapeses around the woods.

724
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't either.

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00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: I'm like more open to their being species that we

726
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: don't know things about, but I do think it would

727
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: be hard. It would be hard to for a species

728
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: of that size to continue to be undetected.

729
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's one of their traits

730
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: is that they don't want people to see you.

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Speaker 3: Totally elusive and but that's so funny to me, right,

732
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: to be like, sure, I'm open to like a ghost existing,

733
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: but like a big hairy ape creature that we've never

734
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: seen before, get out of town, like as if there

735
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: aren't like hundreds of species that are similar to that.

736
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, what about we sort of touched on UFOs.

737
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: But are you someone that believes that there are other beings?

738
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Speaker 3: This one I'm the most don't. I don't know that

739
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: that they visit us in aircraft, But I definitely love

740
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: the idea of there being life far away that we

741
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: can't find with our modern science. Yeah, I'm like fully

742
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: fully open to that would not surprise me if something

743
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: my friend Jamie Green wrote a really great book about

744
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: called The Possibility of Life, like from a science perspective,

745
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: about like what that kind of imagination says about us

746
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: as humans and like what life other places could look like,

747
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 3: and the way we talk about it kind of being

748
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: divorced from like the actual possibilities. And I just think

749
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: that's like really lovely. I think, like, why wouldn't you

750
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: believe in extraterrestrials?

751
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's a more fun way to live,

752
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: let's be honest, totally.

753
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 3: And I'm I like tend I used to be such

754
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: a gullible kid, and so like I'm I try to

755
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: be as an adult like open because I think for

756
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: reflexively for a while, I was just like, nah, it's

757
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: like a way to be and I'm like trying to

758
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: be more like maybe why not and like extraterrestrials, like

759
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: life in space is such an easy place to be,

760
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: Like who knows is really far away and our telescopes

761
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 3: only see only make things so big.

762
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Katie Barry can only get so far. That's right.

763
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: She and she and Gail King got out there, but

764
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: they didn't like really get a good look around.

765
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't go out in the sticks. You know,

766
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: they were still on the main path.

767
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: They weren't turning over rocks. I agree.

768
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: Wow, that pretty much does it for my silly, silly,

769
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: weirdo stuff. But I want to hear about this special

770
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: that you.

771
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. Yeah, I have a new stand up special.

772
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: It is on YouTube now. It's called Positive Reinforcement. I

773
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: recorded at the Bellhouse here in Brooklyn, which is really Yeah,

774
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: I like love that venue and this is like this

775
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: is such a little thing, but you can see it

776
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 3: in the special. There's like a kind of industrial lettering

777
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: that has been bolted to the walls. This says BH

778
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: for the Bellhouse and that used to be in the

779
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: green room, and we moved it just so that it

780
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: would be a little more visually exciting to like just

781
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: that space on the wall, and the venue was like, oh,

782
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: we love that there, and they've kept it. So whenever

783
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: I've gone to the venue since, I like get to

784
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: look at that on the wall and go like, oh,

785
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: it's so nice that like our recording made a little

786
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: imprint on the like ongoing future of the venue. I

787
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: would say my stand up is like a lot like this.

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00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: It's like pretty friendly, Like I would say, it's like

789
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: it's not clean, but it is friendly. It's like good

790
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: for you know, you can watch it with your kids

791
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: if you have cool kids, or you can watch it

792
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: with your parents if you have cool parents. It's like

793
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get super grimy with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's great. Well, congratulations, Thank you very much.

795
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 3: Raz That's really kind of you to say.

796
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: And that's on YouTube.

797
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: On YouTube. I did it with my record label that

798
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: I've worked with for a long time, Blonde Met. So

799
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: there's also an album version wherever you listen to things

800
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: that has like a little extra bonus material that we

801
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: cut out of the video. Part. But yeah, the video

802
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 3: specials on YouTube. In the audio you can get band

803
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: Camp or Apple Music or wherever you stream.

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00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: Oh great, wait, I actually I just heard a review

805
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: about it.

806
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah? Oh that must have been what that

807
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: ghost in the asylum was talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently it's awesome. Well anyway, thanks for doing this.

809
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me, Roz. This is really

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Speaker 3: a pleasure. Was so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Josh. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: I hope you can help me to spread the word

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Speaker 1: of all things ghosted this Halloween season. And I hope

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Speaker 1: you get yourself a Pumpkus spice latte, a nice sweater

816
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: in a spooky tale. I love you all, both living

817
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

818
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly

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Speaker 1: right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,

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Speaker 1: so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

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Speaker 1: show's Instagram at Ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

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Speaker 1: while you're there and follow me Roz on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at it's raz Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Joy. My guest booker

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00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by

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Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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Speaker 1: and the frightening Danielle Kramer. Listen to Ghosted by Roz

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