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Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody to a Thursday edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris. Now, typically it's Mark Vanomir

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Speaker 1: driving out Thursday night in the General. Well, both of

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Speaker 1: them decided that they were going to leave me solo,

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Speaker 1: so I went out. I found well even better than

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Speaker 1: Mark in the general, bringing in my good friend Deep

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Speaker 1: City Deep. Good evening, and thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe those are some really big shoes to fill, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: but thank you for having me on a Thursday. I

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Speaker 1: was like, it's not my day. Happy to do it,

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Speaker 1: and I hope I live up to the expectations. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I can, but you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: always fun to do radio with you, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: been a minute since you and I did radio together.

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Speaker 1: I think Draft Night, Yeah, we did a lot. We

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Speaker 1: did a lot during a lot, those three day shows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it was so much fun. It was always a

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Speaker 1: blast going through that, and of course things were ever

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Speaker 1: changing during the draft, so you never knew it was

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Speaker 1: good what was going to happen At some point. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear from Jude Doherty in our next segment as

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Speaker 1: we go, where are they Now with Steve McKinney. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Skinny with Steve McKinney. And if you heard that song,

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Speaker 1: then you probably know about my old radio station that

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Speaker 1: used to play that all the time. So we'll have

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Speaker 1: that a little later with the where are They Now?

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Speaker 1: But Deep and I are going to kick it off.

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Speaker 1: I call this a new segment. It's called three from Deep.

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Speaker 1: You know, like basketball, you did three from Deep, but

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Speaker 1: this is a little different because it's gonna be three

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Speaker 1: topics on three different things from Deep, City and Deep.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start with this one number one of the three,

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Speaker 1: three areas in which you feel most confident. The Texans

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Speaker 1: are definitely better than last year. Three from Deep. Here

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Speaker 1: we go. Okay, they should be easy, right because it

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Speaker 1: textably won four games last year, so it's got to

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Speaker 1: be better. But the first one and the most glaring one,

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Speaker 1: I have to say his head coach. Yep, no, no

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Speaker 1: disrespect to David Culley, who was wonderful and super sweet

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Speaker 1: and came in at a really tough time in this organization.

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Speaker 1: But Levey Smith taking over his head coach just feels different.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't. And I don't think I'm the only

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Speaker 1: I think I think the fans feel that way. I

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Speaker 1: think his experience and we saw what he was able

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Speaker 1: to do with his defense last year, and he just

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Speaker 1: commands a room when he talks. The players love him,

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Speaker 1: we love him, and I feel like that that is

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Speaker 1: one of the areas that I'm very confident that we're

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Speaker 1: and there's just something about him that just seems very

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Speaker 1: comforting when he's back there calling plays and he's going

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Speaker 1: to continue calling plays for defense, which is the one

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Speaker 1: I think bright spot of last year. So confident in

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Speaker 1: the head coach in Levey Smith and the direction that

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Speaker 1: he's going. There are certain teams at certain times they

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Speaker 1: could take on maybe an experience or a younger coach,

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Speaker 1: and there are times when that fits. There are times

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Speaker 1: when a team probably needs a coach that's seen it,

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Speaker 1: been there, done that. I think this team was definitely

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Speaker 1: at that point. Act you go to a right deef

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Speaker 1: you number two area in which you feel most confident

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Speaker 1: Texans are definitely better than last year. I'm gonna go secondary.

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Speaker 1: This was an area of concern last year and it

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Speaker 1: didn't really seem like the Texans. I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have that much draft capital, couldn't really address

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Speaker 1: it in the draft, and then you know, free agency,

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Speaker 1: a lot more confident about it this year. I think

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Speaker 1: bringing back Desmond King was huge. I love that move.

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Speaker 1: I love what Desmond King brought to this defense last year.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't think that the Texans are gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to bring him back this year, but they did.

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Speaker 1: And then I think spending your first two of three

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Speaker 1: draft picks on the backfield says a lot about your priorities,

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Speaker 1: and you know how important it is to improve back there.

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Speaker 1: I love you. Smith said it. He said, can't get

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Speaker 1: better as a team unless we get better at the

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Speaker 1: cornerback position, and he basically put his money where his

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Speaker 1: So you bring in some young talent, you bring in

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Speaker 1: excellent number number three to three, we're three areas in

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Speaker 1: last year. One love you Smith, number two. Secondary. Number

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Speaker 1: three is I'm gonna go the overall chemistry and identity

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Speaker 1: see on that because we've we've had some expectations for

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Speaker 1: I am a confident that the overall chemistry and identity

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Speaker 1: this team is more set because I think last year

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Speaker 1: we didn't really know what this team was going to be.

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Speaker 1: We had all these street free agents that we signed

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Speaker 1: It was a total roster turn of new players, and

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Speaker 1: we didn't really know what the identity was going to

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Speaker 1: be with all these players. But this year, you bring

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Speaker 1: you've got Levey Smith who was here last year, and

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Speaker 1: you have a sense of what Levee Smith is about.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like he can bring that locker room together.

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Speaker 1: He reached out to every single player when he was

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Speaker 1: chemistry of this team in this locker room and the identity.

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Speaker 1: They know what they have to do to get better.

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Speaker 1: The offense knows what it needs to do to get better.

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Speaker 1: You bring back pet Hamilton, so you know there's some

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Speaker 1: continuity from last year, so you definitely can see some improvement.

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Speaker 1: It's not so much newness as there was last year.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see that this year. Very good. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're doing three from Deep. Three key topics that Deep

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Speaker 1: definitely better than last year. Number two, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Three opponent changes, personnel, coaching, whatever, that worry you the

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Speaker 1: most of the fourteen opponents the Texans play this year.

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Speaker 1: Three opponent changes that worry you the most. Deep eat

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Speaker 1: Number one go. You know, it's funny because like in

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Speaker 1: free agency, the AFC West was just like making all

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Speaker 1: these big moves and then they're like, could I just

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Speaker 1: say like three three West teams? But I'm not going

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Speaker 1: will say I'll say week to a Denver facing Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson does appoint me because I feel like Denver, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they want a Super Bowl. Last time they had a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: a bonafid quarterback. And I'm not saying Russell Wilson is

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, but Peyton Manning wasn't even Peyton Manning that year.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like, what if that is all that

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Speaker 1: with all the They've had a lot of high draft

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Speaker 1: And if you just pluck Russell Wilson out of Seattle

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. So I'm intrigued. I'm I'm worried. I guess

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Speaker 1: intrigued with what that team looks like. All right, I'll

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Speaker 1: also you know what I'll say, I'll i gotta go

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Speaker 1: maybe it takes a while for that chemistry with Josh

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Speaker 1: I think within our division opening the season and closing

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Speaker 1: the season against the Colts, I worry that Matt Ryan

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Speaker 1: wonder if Matt Ryan might be the solution that they

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Speaker 1: near the end of his career. But the Colts, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go within the division because I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: a more accurate passer back there, what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you if you didn't go

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Speaker 1: was nash you, Okay, which which change or which edition

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Speaker 1: worries you more? And you handled it? Because I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say Matt Ryan at quarterback or Stefan Gilmour for

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Speaker 1: the Colts at defensive back, Oh yeah, because that's gonna

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Speaker 1: worth it. If even if it's just one year with

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Speaker 1: And obviously opposite Xavier Rhodes and what they've got their

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Speaker 1: physical defense. I would still say Matt Ryan. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, looks defunk. Gilmour might be it. He might,

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Speaker 1: I don't say more significant, but relatively speaking, his impact

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Speaker 1: guy for nine weeks. But the one thing we've been

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Speaker 1: unable to do is have consistency, first of all, appearance

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Speaker 1: and availability. Last year, I think we were thirty first

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Speaker 1: to thirty second in the league with lost starts, with

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Speaker 1: our starting offensive line having lost terror Laramie and then

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Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon for the number of games we did, and

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Speaker 1: then other guys miss games for different reasons in between.

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Speaker 1: It was just but if this guy is line can

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Speaker 1: stay healthy and that right guard could step up and

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Speaker 1: play well, then to your point about Damian Pierce, my

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Speaker 1: point about Marlon Mack. Those guys start running behind an

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Speaker 1: offensive line against movement that gets guys and gets running

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Speaker 1: backs into gaps quickly. That ends up changing this run

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Speaker 1: game and changing it significantly. So that's gonna be very

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Speaker 1: very fun and exciting. And Deepie three from Deep I

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Speaker 1: love it. I love it too. We're again to you

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Speaker 1: to do this. I'll come up with different topics and

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Speaker 1: we will try and do this as much as we

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Speaker 1: can throughout the off season on to the season. That

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Speaker 1: was a very very fun segment. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining me. All right, it was good doing. Wait

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Speaker 1: like two months next time the draft. Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go shut the door and keep Mark Vandomir locked out.

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Speaker 1: And then the general too. You got you gonna tackle

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Speaker 1: both of them. Deep, you can do it. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: the generals apparently retired, but not from radio, so no

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Speaker 1: he's awful at being retired. He is, he is very

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Speaker 1: awful at being retired. But a guy who is not

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Speaker 1: off what being retired to Steve McKinney. Drew Dorry had

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Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with him with where are

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Speaker 1: They Now? And that's next. I'm Texas A Axis from

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Speaker 1: Texas A Axis from Texas A Axis. Welcome back this

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: football analyst, sideline reporter, flying solo, no McClain, no vandomir

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Speaker 1: tonight they're off doing other things, I shall say, but

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Speaker 1: dpcity was great in the first segment and Drew Doherty

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Speaker 1: is awesome in this segment doing Hey, where are they Now?

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite Texans, one of the first ones

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Speaker 1: I got to know in the locker room from Centerville,

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Speaker 1: from Clear like from Texas A and M played for

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Speaker 1: the Texans, my man, Steve McKinney. True take it away. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is a fun one because we've got an og

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Speaker 1: literally figuratively, but we got Steve McKinney, offensive guard, offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: original texts. I mean all these things that you can say,

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Speaker 1: but Steve, you played for the team two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two to two thousand and seven. You'd already been in

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Speaker 1: the league for four years prior with the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into that. But first things first,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing and where are you these days?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Well? I am, I'm doing great. First

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Speaker 1: of all. You know, post COVID life is uh is

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Speaker 1: much better. And yeah, you know, I've been been doing

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Speaker 1: McDonald's now for about twelve years since I got out

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Speaker 1: of got out of football, So that's pretty much all

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Speaker 1: I do. Man, I do. I do McDonald's and help

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Speaker 1: my son train to be where I'm at one day.

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Speaker 1: And how's that going. It's going pretty good. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's only in eighth grade, but uh, you know he

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Speaker 1: has he has the desire and the work ethics, so

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Speaker 1: you know, the rest is in God's hands, I guess. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's good stuff. You're born in Galveston, You went and

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Speaker 1: played your high school ball clear Lake. Where are you

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Speaker 1: these days? Specifically where are you living? Okay? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: live in Montgomery, actually moved back to Montgomery. You know,

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Speaker 1: went to high school in clear Lake Centerville prior to that.

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Speaker 1: Actually small town, how about that? And you know when

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Speaker 1: I was playing with the Texans. We lived over in Friendswood,

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Speaker 1: mostly because it was an area I was familiar with,

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Speaker 1: having you know, grown up in clear Lake. And uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we moved out to Montgomery, Man right after I got

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Speaker 1: done planning, I bought the bought the McDonald's down there

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Speaker 1: in Madisonville, ten and uh couldn't couldn't be driving from

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Speaker 1: Friendswood to Madisonville every day, So we moved out to Montgomery,

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Speaker 1: which is only about an hour away, you know. That's

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Speaker 1: how that's how we ended up. There are planted roots

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Speaker 1: and it's been good. You know, it's a very it's

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Speaker 1: a nice community, you know, good people, so on the

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Speaker 1: edge of the piney woods. And I, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I went to school in Dallas for a bit and

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Speaker 1: lived in Dallas for a bit, so I guarantee I

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Speaker 1: stopped at that h M. McDonald's and Madisonville time or two.

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Speaker 1: As clause, I think I think you got one in

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Speaker 1: Huntsville too, right, and that one's not mine? No, okay, okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: one of these days hopefully I'll get that one. But

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, we got we got the one in Madisonville,

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Speaker 1: and I got you know, a few in Montgomery area.

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Speaker 1: And kind of all over Euston at this point, we're

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty spread out. That's fantastic. How did you get

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Speaker 1: into that because obviously you're in the NFL for a

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Speaker 1: decade basically, and how do you transition from playing football

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Speaker 1: to to be in a franchise? E? Well, I learned

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Speaker 1: literally in my rookie year up in Indianapolis, Uh, that

517
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Speaker 1: NFL stands for not for long, and that you better

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Speaker 1: have a second career planned out before before that day comes.

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Speaker 1: And so I started researching you know, businesses and and

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Speaker 1: franchises and things that I could get into from you know,

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Speaker 1: dry cleaners to hair salons to subways or whatever. And

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Speaker 1: McDonald's was always one of my first, but I looked

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Speaker 1: into them pretty quickly and really that if you're not

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent involved in the day to day and

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Speaker 1: running the business yourself, that they're not gonna they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna let you get in. So I waited and the

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Speaker 1: day after I retired or was retired, you know, because

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Speaker 1: most of us don't retire, we just get retired. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that when that day came, that was the first

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Speaker 1: place I applied for and actually got rejected and waited

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Speaker 1: a few months and applied again, got rejected, waited a

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Speaker 1: few months, and applied again after meeting with a gentleman

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Speaker 1: that I knew, um from A and M that used

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Speaker 1: to own some McDonald's and so you know, he kind

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Speaker 1: of he kind of opened the door run Blatchley. He

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Speaker 1: opened the door for me to to get an interview,

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Speaker 1: and I flew. I flew out to Arizona, met with

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Speaker 1: the O West Division president, you know, me and my

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Speaker 1: wife Tiffany, and uh just really sold him on the

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Speaker 1: fact that hey, we're not I'm not looking to be

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Speaker 1: an investor. I'm not looking to uh you know, put

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Speaker 1: my money some place safe. You know, I want to

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Speaker 1: run it. I want to be involved. I want to

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Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to own and running McDonald's. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I was able to get into program and

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Speaker 1: took me about a year and a half. Drew. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's a brutal program, yeah, but they train you

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Speaker 1: top to bottom. Man, you learn how to do everything

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Speaker 1: in a restaurant, which is great because I didn't know

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Speaker 1: how to do any of it. I knew how to

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Speaker 1: snap a football and you know, block defensive linement, but

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Speaker 1: you know, when it came to running a restaurant operationally

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Speaker 1: and in the business side of it. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was clueless, So it was it was a great training program.

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot, very humbling, I'm not gonna lie,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you work in the restaurant. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're putting on a crew uniform, you're taking orders in

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Speaker 1: the drive through, You're making French fries and hamburgers and

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Speaker 1: dealing with upset customers and everything that goes into to

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Speaker 1: working in fast food. And I remember one time a

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Speaker 1: guy came through. It was right after I had just

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Speaker 1: finished playing and I was in the drive through over

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Speaker 1: at the Fairmont McDonald's right there, all forty five and

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Speaker 1: but way eight and and um. He worked at Fox

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Speaker 1: News actually, and was a guy that you know, i'd

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Speaker 1: been a cameraman and interviewed me and stuff like that

567
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Speaker 1: in the past. And he looked at me like, man,

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Speaker 1: you know you've really fallen some hard times though, right,

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Speaker 1: So I said no, and I'm in the I'm in

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Speaker 1: the training program. You know, I'm trying to try to

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Speaker 1: own one of these one day. So but it was

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Speaker 1: funny because I would get those looks from customers from

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Speaker 1: time to time, you know that really followed the Texans

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Speaker 1: and knew who I was, and they look at me

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Speaker 1: and double take like, wait, what are you doing here?

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Speaker 1: It was it was very homely and at times, but

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Speaker 1: man it was It's it's been worth it, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's paid off and been a blessing to me and

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Speaker 1: my family. So we love McDonald's. That's great. I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about that that end of the business, but

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Speaker 1: I've heard stories like yours, like when you become a franchise,

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Speaker 1: especially with them, it's a pretty, like you said, grueling process.

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Speaker 1: Now I do know. I waited tables at the Mason

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Speaker 1: Jar in Houston for two summers, and back then, when

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Speaker 1: I was more of a jackass, I thought, this is

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Speaker 1: like overwhelming. So just like that small portion of the

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Speaker 1: food service industry I have a lot of respect for,

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Speaker 1: so I can't imagine having to run the entire thing.

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Speaker 1: And was there a was there a more you talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the folks senior in the drive through?

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Speaker 1: But was there was there another moment where you said

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Speaker 1: humbling that really were you were just like, what the

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Speaker 1: absolute hell am I doing this for? Like surely that

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Speaker 1: came up a time or two? Right? Oh? Man, it did? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I mean, when you're when you're

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Speaker 1: doing that for a year plus and you're not getting paid, right,

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Speaker 1: this is all for free and for you know training,

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Speaker 1: You're getting paid through the training. But there were plenty

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Speaker 1: of times, you know where I'm working a you know,

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Speaker 1: late night shift and you know, it's ten to eleven

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Speaker 1: o'clock at night and I'm walking around the parking a lot,

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Speaker 1: you know, picking up pieces of trash here and there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, getting home barely seeing my family and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. And there was times where I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: is this is this really worth it? You know, this

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Speaker 1: is this is a lot. You know, there's probably other

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Speaker 1: things I could be doing. You know, I could go

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Speaker 1: get a job and work for a big company or something,

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Speaker 1: you know, working my way up the ladder, you know.

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Speaker 1: So there were there were moments where I had those thoughts,

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Speaker 1: you know, but I just kept pressing through. My wife

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Speaker 1: just kept pushing me. And you know, when because everybody

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Speaker 1: has those weak moments, everybody when things get tough, you know,

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Speaker 1: you you you question things. But I powered through it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, thank God I did, you know, because

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Speaker 1: there was there was a light at the end of

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Speaker 1: the tunnel, and there's times throughout that training where you

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Speaker 1: can't see that light. You have no idea how much

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Speaker 1: longer you have. There's no there's no hey, you know

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Speaker 1: step one, two, three, and you're finished at this date.

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Speaker 1: There is not none of that. You know, you're kind

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Speaker 1: of at their mercy as you're going through this training.

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Speaker 1: So there was there was months where I was just

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Speaker 1: cluelessness to win this whatever end and um, you know,

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00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: very challenged mentally and physically, but I persevered, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I think the NFL and football and all my

627
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: training really helped me with that, that mental toughness aspect

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Speaker 1: of it of just just grinding through it and just

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Speaker 1: embracing the grind and just pushing pushing through the tough times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you can make it through a training camp in

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Speaker 1: Houston or you know, summer summer drills at in College station,

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Speaker 1: you can you can definitely make it through that. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about your days as an Aggie. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sort of around your age. Graduated high school in

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Speaker 1: ninety six, so I remember the Aggies were bullies. Man

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Speaker 1: in the mid nineties, early nineties, late eighties. Still at

637
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Speaker 1: the end of the Southwest Conference and you're kind of

638
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: there as they switch over into the Big twelve. You

639
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: were there with RC Slocum. Who, Holy moly, that guy

640
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: can coach. And what was it like going to Texas

641
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: A and M when they were at that, you know,

642
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: at the peak of those powers, I guess you could

643
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: say now, Andrew. For me, it was just kind of

644
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: like a dream come truer because I grew up from

645
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: the age of one through sixteen in Centerville, Texas, about

646
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: an hour from College Station. Ye, my grandfather went to

647
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: A and M. We were big aggies growing up. We'd

648
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: go to games every Saturday, very you know, probably made

649
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: it the most home games growing up. So I just

650
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: had a ya. I bled my room, bottom line, you know,

651
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: I was a big A and M fan from birth.

652
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: So for me, I remember it. It kind of the

653
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: light switch kind of went on in about seventh I

654
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: think seventh grade. I remember because up until that point,

655
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: Drew I just wanted to be in the band. I

656
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: just wanted to play trombone or tuba or something in

657
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: the band, you know, because I thought that was the

658
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: coolest thing ever. I didn't really think a kid out

659
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: of Centerville, you know, could ever actually step on the

660
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: Kyle field in a uniform and play football. So but

661
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: I remember in seventh grade, I was watching Anyone play

662
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: Hawaii on their opening game, and that's when it just

663
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: really clicked in my head. I'm like, you know what

664
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: I want to I'm gonna play football at A and

665
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: THELM and that. From that day on, that became my

666
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: goal and I worked towards that and my junior year,

667
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: after my junior year, right before my senior year. It

668
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: was back in those days colleges couldn't call you. And

669
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: they called me on the day that they were allowed

670
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: to call me at midnight and called me, and they

671
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: didn't offer me. At that time, I was hoping they would,

672
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: but they didn't offer me. But the fact that they

673
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: had called me, they were my first call, you know,

674
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: made me feel good and felt like I had a chance.

675
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: And then I think it was, you know, probably a

676
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: week or two later, you know, some of these other

677
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,239
Speaker 1: big schools had started offering scholarships. And then sure enough,

678
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: if here comes the A and M offer, and uh,

679
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, I jumped right on it. And I'm not

680
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: gonna say that I was like any eighteen year old,

681
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: you're getting confused, right, So I committed to A and LM.

682
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: And you know, a couple months later, you know, Notre

683
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: Dame is pushing hard for me, and that this was

684
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame was a bunch of bullies too. You know.

685
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: They were ranked number one in the country all season

686
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: that was here. They lost to Boston College on that

687
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: last second field goal. The Rudy year. They had just

688
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: beaten Florida State, number one of the week eat. So

689
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean I was you know, Rudy had just come

690
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: out in the theaters, you know, and I went up

691
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: there on a visit and saw a touchdown Jesus and

692
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: met the actual Rudy, and I'm like, how can I

693
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: how can I not go to Notre Dame. You know,

694
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: it's just crazy, you know. And so I ended up

695
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: committing to Notre Dame after after growing up and ague

696
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: my entire life. You know, my parents were like, yeah,

697
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: they were trying to be supportive, but I think they

698
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: were kind of, you know, a little heartbroken inside. You know,

699
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: they didn't really share that with me. But luckily I'm

700
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: sitting there watching A and LM and Notre Dame played

701
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: in the cotton ball day here. Hell of a game.

702
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: Hell of a game. And I was committed to Notre

703
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Dame during that game, by the way, but I was

704
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: rooting for A and LM for some reason. And that's

705
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: that's kind of what, you know, made me realize that,

706
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta go where my heart's at. You know. Yeah,

707
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Notre Dame may be the cool new shiny object that

708
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: you know, makes me look cool to everybody, but the

709
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: reality is is that A and M was where my

710
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: heart was. And so I realized that watching that football

711
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: game and A and M lost, and I still wanted

712
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: to go there, So I didn't of committing A and

713
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: LM and and signing there, thank god. And it was fun, man.

714
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: I had a great experience at A and LM. It's

715
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: a dream come true running out on Kyle Field. Um.

716
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: You know, even to this day, I go back to

717
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: games and just love the atmosphere. I loved the love

718
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: the community, love the love the university. So yeah, fun

719
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: place with you know, so many fun traditions. And they

720
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: got something building now too. With Jimbo Fisher did that game,

721
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: there was there was like a hook and ladder to

722
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: Leland McElroy that didn't almost what was is that? How

723
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: that ended? How that ended, it was. It was set

724
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: up beautifully and unfortunately the guy that caught the ball

725
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: that was supposed to throw the hook um hit as

726
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: he was throwing it, so he just throw it off

727
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: and he missed it. But if he'd caught it in stride,

728
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: he'd have been gone. So that was that was a

729
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: pretty exciting game. Kids. If you don't know who Leland

730
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: McElroy is, think like Tyreek Hill or Reggie Bush kind

731
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: of like that. I mean, he was that guy was electric.

732
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: That guy was electric. Yeah, he so I remember my

733
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: I remember watching him in the offseason. We'd run forties, right,

734
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: and they'd have these electronic timers or whatever, you know,

735
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: electronics start, electronic finish. You know that's going to make

736
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: you slow when you do that, and he was I'd

737
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: never seen anybody run that fast. I think he ran

738
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: like a four to three one or something on that.

739
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: I was just like, goodness. I mean you could hear it.

740
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: It's like just yeah. And he had the football moves

741
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: to match it too. He wasn't just a fast like

742
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: he was a good He was a good football player.

743
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: He was quick, yea. His straight line speed was just unbelievable.

744
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: So as somebody who grew up around these parts, you know, Centerville,

745
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Clear Lake, all that stuff, and you're in the NFL

746
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: and you're still early in your NFL career. How much

747
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: did you notice when you saw a businessman from Houston

748
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: named Bob McNair, you know, acquired the rights and hey,

749
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: Houston is going to get a franchise The Oilers left

750
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: while you were in college. But how much were you

751
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: paying attention to that and cognizant of that. I was

752
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: probably paying attention to it more than anybody really in

753
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: the whole country, because I knew the second they got

754
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what bobbing there was. I knew the

755
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: second he got the franchise, and I knew the second

756
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: they were going to play in the year two thousand

757
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: and two, and just so happens, that was the same

758
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: season I was going to be an unrestricted free agent.

759
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: And were you lining that up in your mind in

760
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine when it got Yeah, yeah, I was like, Wow,

761
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: I was drafted in ninety eight, right. I knew that

762
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: the Colts that the most had four years of my

763
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: rights unless they put the franchise tag on me, which

764
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't wouldn't expect them to do that

765
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: to a left guard at the time. But as soon

766
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: as I saw ninety nine there, you know, first year

767
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: is gonna be two thousand and two, I'm like, I'm

768
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: going to be an understricted free agent most likely, and

769
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: you know so, and that was always kind of in

770
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: the back of my mind. I'm like, unless Indianapolis, like

771
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: really just you know, backs up a Brinks truck. Um,

772
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's gonna be My first priority is trying

773
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: to get get to Houston. So when I did become

774
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: a un restricted free agent, I had some other offers,

775
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: you know, I had some other a few other teams

776
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: that were that were on me, but Houston was our

777
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: first call. I told my agent, I said, look, I said,

778
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: just give me the best deal you can get me

779
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: in Use and that's where I want to be. You know,

780
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: if they don't want me, or if you know they're

781
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: not willing to, you know, pay close to what other

782
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: people were playing, then we can talk. But I said,

783
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: anything close, anything even in the ballpark of what anybody

784
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: else is offering, Houston's where I want to end up.

785
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: So he knew that, and you know, obviously the rest

786
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: is history. Because it all worked out. You know, this

787
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: this was this is where I want to be. This

788
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: is home, you know, win or lose. You know, I

789
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: knew it would be tough sledding in the beginning, but

790
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, I wouldn't

791
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: trade it for anything. You know, Euston Houston's home and

792
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: getting to play for your hometown team. There's nothing like it.

793
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: There really isn't. There's nothing like. What was it like

794
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: because the expansion d You're a free agent, so you

795
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: were you were outside of that expansion draft. A lot

796
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: of those guys came in and they really went defense heavy,

797
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, that was a good defense that those first

798
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: few years you were with the Texans, really really good

799
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: defense and they were really good veterans on that team.

800
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: What was that like, you know, being in the locker

801
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: room with all the with those vets, but also having

802
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys and a lot of guys

803
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: who were sort of on the fringes of the NFL

804
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: because of you know, you're an expansion team. What was

805
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: that like being in that soup of people like gumboth

806
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: people and trying to figure out, hey, this is what

807
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: we gotta do because you talk earlier about you gotta

808
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: practice one hundred percent and you'll see the improvement. I

809
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: don't imagine that everyone had that same mindset just because

810
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: they hadn't experienced that, Like you what was that like, No,

811
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: you're right, Drew, I mean it was it was. It

812
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: was different because I went from being you know, when

813
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: you're you're in Indianapolis. You know, I'm a second, third,

814
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: fourth year player. Yeah, I guess you're a veteran, but

815
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: you're not really, you know, one of the team leaders.

816
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: You know, I'm on a team with you know, guys

817
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: that have been in the league eight, nine, ten, twelve

818
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: years all over the place, right and you go to

819
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: Houston and you look around the locker room and you're like,

820
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: holy crab. You know, I'm one of the oldest guys

821
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: in here. I've talked to Steve about that very thing,

822
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: going on the locker room and seeing the young guys,

823
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you went for being a

824
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: young guy to a kg vet almost overnight. Fun stuff.

825
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: There's a lot more to that interview, so go check

826
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: out the podcast page used to Texas app He's Texas

827
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: dot Com and listen to that full ware. They now

828
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: Steve McKinney. It is absolutely awesome. We talked about Peyton

829
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: manning a bee with the Colts. That was pretty cool

830
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: as well, So go check it out. Even though we

831
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: hate the Colts, but so be it. It's Steve McKinney.

832
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: We love him and we love going around the NFL.

833
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: We'll do that next right here at Texas All Access

834
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: because it's all Access. Because it's all Access, we got

835
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: one final segment of this Thursday edition of Texans All Access.

836
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter, glad

837
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: to be with you in a big tip of the

838
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: cap to DP and Drew for joining me tonight to

839
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: where they now we see McKinney. You just heard was fantastic.

840
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: And then we did three from Deep, which was fun.

841
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: Gave he DP three if her topics. She gave me

842
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: three thoughts on each, so three from Deep I love.

843
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: It's just it works perfectly, you know, play on words

844
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: and it's great, and of course I love talking about

845
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce, DP and DP. It's pretty funny. So that said,

846
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: two rookies tonight, as we go around the NFL, will

847
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: be throwing out the first pitch over at the Houston

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Speaker 1: Astro's game tonight. In fact, Bob, probably right about now,

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Speaker 1: you got Derek Stingley Jr. Kenyan Greene throwing out the

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Speaker 1: first pitch over at the Astros game. Congratulations. I've always

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Speaker 1: wanted to throw out the first pitch. I've always wanted

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Speaker 1: to get up on a mount to just throw a heater.

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Speaker 1: I love throwing. I was loved playing baseball. I love

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Speaker 1: playing catch. Love the warm up a little bit and

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Speaker 1: then hop up on the mount. Astros, if you're listening,

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Speaker 1: give me a call. I would love to be able

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Speaker 1: to do that. The only real news that came out

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Speaker 1: of the NFL today that I really could see was

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Speaker 1: a raven retired. And I know it's not typically you know,

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Speaker 1: when a punter retires, it's not a huge deal. But

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Speaker 1: Sam Cook for the Ravens was one of the best

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Speaker 1: of all time. He was one of the more creative punters.

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Speaker 1: He was doing things about eighteen years ago. I remember

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Speaker 1: seeing NFL films presents unlike the seventeen or eighteen different

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Speaker 1: punts that he had. And he retired to day, and

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Speaker 1: it was interesting because it happened to pop up on

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Speaker 1: my timeline and John Harbaugh and Eric to Costa were

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Speaker 1: talking about him and it was just really interesting to

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Speaker 1: see the reverence with which they were talking about him.

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Speaker 1: It was really pretty cool. Kind of a tip of

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Speaker 1: a Captain, Sam Cook a great punter. Obviously, the Texas

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Speaker 1: had their own Shane Leckler few years ago, so we

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Speaker 1: know having great punters, and of course we have Cam

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Speaker 1: Johnston now, so we've got great punter in house with

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Speaker 1: the Texas. All Right, it's gonna do it. A big

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Speaker 1: thanks to dep to Drew, to Chris Santiago too, you

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Speaker 1: for listen. We'll see him Everyboddy and as always, go

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Speaker 1: Texans