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Speaker 2: Ken you're a Giants camp, tell us about how Tony

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Speaker 3: It was interesting. I attended his first media session and

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Speaker 3: just not at this level. He was at Tennessee and

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Speaker 3: he got asked, Hey, is this the most reporters you've

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Speaker 3: the things that people tend to underestimate, including myself, when

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Speaker 3: I look at the jump from college to the majors,

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Speaker 3: They use analytics the way the major leagues do. They

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Speaker 3: a difference. Right when you're recruiting a player, you get

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Speaker 3: but he'll build it. And the word that two Giants

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Speaker 3: people I spoke with today used to describe him, and

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Speaker 3: they use the same word was sharp. And if you've

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Speaker 3: major league manager Dusty Baker, and Bruce Bochi will be around,

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Speaker 3: so he'll have people to lean on and people he

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Speaker 3: should be okay, but it's going to be one of

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Speaker 3: these stories that we follow all season because it is

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Speaker 4: Well, you can also throw in some doom for the

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Speaker 4: Nationals who have Bleake pe Terra. Sorry, Ken, I'm just

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Speaker 4: taking you literally. But the Giants, though, did they build

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Speaker 4: their roster well enough to help him succeed? I mean,

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Speaker 4: you can have manager of this manager of that college.

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Speaker 4: Ra Ra and Tony Vaitelo. We had him on our show,

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Speaker 4: his unbelievable interview. He gets it, he understands he's not

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Speaker 4: going into this thing. I have all the answers, he said, Hey,

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Speaker 4: have to learn a lot quickly. So did the Giants

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Speaker 4: do enough this offseason with Buster Posey in charge to

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Speaker 4: give him a team that can compete with the Padres,

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Speaker 4: the Diamondbacks, the Dodgers, and the Rockies in his division.

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Speaker 3: That's the question, and I'm not sure the answer to

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Speaker 1: What did they do?

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Speaker 3: They signed Tyler Molly, They signed Adrian Hawserd to bolster

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Speaker 3: They got two guys who are pretty good, and Molly

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Speaker 3: coming off the injury, might be really good. But could

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Speaker 3: they have done more? Yes, they could have done more

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Speaker 3: there now to round out their position club, they signed

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Speaker 3: their outfield is going to be much better defensively this

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Speaker 3: and then they signed a Rise, Louisa Rise, that became

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Speaker 3: course he's got one of the great infield coaches of

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Speaker 3: I would have liked to have seen them do a

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Speaker 3: Devers is here already, He's taken some flips from Ron

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Speaker 3: Washington and his fellow coaches this morning. They're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 3: They'll find it. And do I see them as good

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Speaker 4: All Right, Ken, it's your favorite time of the year.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get to work together for the WBC. There's

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Speaker 4: a thing out there about the ABS that's coming into

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Speaker 4: Major League Baseball this year. Are the catchers really at

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Speaker 4: they're not gonna be with their team in spring training

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Speaker 4: last year, right they did? They not see most of

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Speaker 4: these guys see this last year. Maybe they're missing out

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Speaker 4: on some strategy on this. But I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I don't know that anybody's try to make it into

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Speaker 3: two weeks you're gonna miss if you're a major league catcher. Yes,

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Speaker 3: But we're also talking about the elite catchers in the game,

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Speaker 1: And obviously it's not.

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Speaker 3: The same as catching pitches with the system and all that.

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Speaker 3: I get it. But the thought process is, oh, that

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Speaker 2: Hey, sometimes we do a little game on foul.

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Speaker 2: ftfam Ken. I know you touched on some of this,

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Speaker 2: but wanted to get your thoughts on where you think

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Speaker 2: the Astros are at with Esak Pratus. And I know

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say odd man out, but the

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Speaker 1: And they did lose some suitors over.

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Speaker 2: The last twenty four hours, but fans are asking if

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Speaker 2: several days. And that's the name that I came up

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Speaker 2: with that I guess could still be moved around somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Right, that situation still has to resolve. And I know

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Speaker 3: the Astros have said, oh, we can carry both Christian

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Speaker 3: are you going to do that exactly? I mean they

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Speaker 3: There's just not enough at bats, not enough playing time

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Speaker 3: I still expect something to happen there. But you're right, Scott.

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Speaker 3: They lost the suitor with the Red Sox, who of

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Speaker 3: course acquired Caleb Durban and that would seem to be

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Speaker 3: some of the guys that they acquired, including Durbin, to

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Speaker 6: That's not happening from what I understand.

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Speaker 3: And then the Pirates another team that has been in.

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Speaker 3: When they're a team that just spent twelve million dollars

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Speaker 6: Or so for parades.

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Speaker 3: So I know there are other teams in the mix.

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Speaker 3: The Astros have said, and Chandler Room of our network

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Speaker 3: Chandler wrote in The Athletic that there were five teams involved. Well,

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Speaker 3: Pirates aren't as strong as they were, there's still three others,

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Speaker 3: So I still expect something to happen. Timing I can't

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Speaker 3: So given that and giving Christian Walker's low trade value,

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Speaker 3: right now, he is, as you said, Scott the odd

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Speaker 5: All right, This is not power rankings. Who do you

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Speaker 5: think improved the most this offseason? Because now pitchers and

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Speaker 5: I'm kidding, obviously everybody can still improve, but who did

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Speaker 3: The White Socks come to mind. Now, granted they're starting

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Speaker 3: they're going to have enough power. Durbin is a guy who,

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Speaker 3: Big believes yet. He's your player last year, So that's

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Speaker 3: one question I have with them. I like what Seattle

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Speaker 3: I just don't know how much better they're going to be.

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Speaker 3: They're a lot different and they're going to be fascinating

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Speaker 4: It's not Cracks, it's everybody else. You hate life, Ken,

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Speaker 4: We can't. We try to cheer you up every time

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Speaker 1: Bet. I'm jam futures on the Twins.

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Speaker 2: Former Aj Pizinski team Minnesota Twins seventy three and a

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Speaker 4: Under going under because I think at some point they're

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Speaker 2: Longtime baseball writer Ken david Off joining us right now

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Speaker 2: book One on One Lessons from the Dugout. I have

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Speaker 2: it too, so we'll show it off while we say

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Speaker 2: hello to Ken.

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Speaker 1: Ken.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show. There it is, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you show it off. You're the one who put all

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Speaker 2: we both can show it off. I like the cover too,

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Speaker 2: by the way. It stands out a lot because it's green,

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Speaker 1: Nice and big.

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Speaker 2: But thanks for joining us, and first off, congrats on

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, guys. Great to see all of you,

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Speaker 6: and the loadout on the book is we My co author,

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Speaker 4: Ken, I'm going to say this, I read the book

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Speaker 7: Who no way anyone finished it.

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Speaker 7: So that's fine. It's kids right there at the age

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Speaker 4: And one thing I always say about baseball and sports

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Speaker 6: even the best baseball players fail to get on base

436
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Speaker 6: seven out of every ten times, everyone has I say

437
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 6: six out of every ten times on base percentage, And

438
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Speaker 6: how do you deal with that disappointment? How do you

439
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Speaker 6: react to that? How do you react when you come

440
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Speaker 6: to the field and you're not in the lineup that day?

441
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Speaker 6: That's chapter two, you know, Chapter two is you're not

442
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Speaker 6: in the lineup, how are you going to deal with that?

443
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Speaker 6: And just we take it through various different ways, not

444
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Speaker 6: not every chapter is about failure, but just all the

445
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Speaker 6: wonderful ways that this game can teach us how to

446
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Speaker 6: live our life better.

447
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Speaker 5: How many of these lessons would have been good for

448
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Speaker 5: you to learn before you lived through all of those situations.

449
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt about Eric. And I do think Look,

450
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Speaker 6: it's my book, so I'm bias, but I do think

451
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Speaker 6: it can help as adults still. And someone asked me

452
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Speaker 6: recently to apply had this book impact my own career

453
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Speaker 6: covering baseball, and and there's a chapter small Ball. You know,

454
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Speaker 6: don't don't focus on the home run, especially when you're

455
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Speaker 6: just starting, you know, to focus on building up, putting

456
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Speaker 6: together you know, hit singles and bumping over and and

457
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Speaker 6: just putting some runs on the board. And that's the

458
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Speaker 6: way I approached my career. You know, I was first

459
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Speaker 6: covering the Yankees and Mets back in the mid to

460
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Speaker 6: late nineties. Like, I wasn't trying to get huge scoops.

461
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Speaker 6: I was just trying to build relationships and get small

462
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 6: nuggets of information that no one else had and building

463
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Speaker 6: up my credibility to the fact where I did feel

464
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Speaker 6: comfortable swing for the fences.

465
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Speaker 4: Okay, give us some examples, give us, give us, give

466
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Speaker 4: us some examples of how Again, I've read this so

467
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Speaker 4: I get it. But in this book it gives examples

468
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Speaker 4: of I mean, it was like on deck circle you

469
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Speaker 4: used to prep for tests and the bases are loaded,

470
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Speaker 4: how you prepare? And there was one about a drop

471
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Speaker 4: third strike, which I know a little something about, and

472
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Speaker 4: how you always need to run it out. Just because

473
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Speaker 4: you fail the first time doesn't mean that your life

474
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Speaker 4: is over. So can you give us some real world

475
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Speaker 4: examples that are.

476
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Speaker 7: In the book?

477
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Speaker 6: Yeah, happily, aj so on one of my favorites and

478
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Speaker 6: is Field's Choice, and I will press the panel here.

479
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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure you guys can handle this, but just

480
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Speaker 6: to just to talk it through. So let's say, let's

481
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Speaker 6: say you're up, you're playing, you're in the field. It's

482
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Speaker 6: for they batters of first and second with no outs,

483
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Speaker 6: and you're up by four runs. So how do you

484
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Speaker 6: approach that situation in the field, up by four first

485
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Speaker 6: and second no outs? Asking you guys, you get the

486
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Speaker 6: out right, right? So now we but now we change

487
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Speaker 6: that in the field first and second no outs up

488
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Speaker 6: by one. How do you approach that?

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Speaker 7: You try to get the lead runner if you can. Yes, sorry,

490
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Speaker 7: all that.

491
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Speaker 6: So now let's carry that into school. Let's say aj

492
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Speaker 6: back when your son was still in high school. Let's

493
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Speaker 6: say he did not like chemistry, hardest class, but he

494
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Speaker 6: was acent it, he was doing a good job with it.

495
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Speaker 6: And tonight he's got homework in five different subjects. So

496
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Speaker 6: he's up four runs in chemistry. Right, he's got the A.

497
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Speaker 6: So maybe he can take his feet off the gas

498
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Speaker 6: a little bit in chemistry and do some work and

499
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Speaker 6: some other subjects that he likes better. But let's say

500
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Speaker 6: he's got a C plus in chemistry. Now he's only

501
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Speaker 6: up a run. Now he's got to let that lead out.

502
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Speaker 6: He's got to study hard on chemistry to try to

503
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Speaker 6: boost his grade up right, and he that's where he

504
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Speaker 6: needs to prioritize. So just the idea how a Fielder's

505
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Speaker 6: Choice can teach you how to prioritize on the file

506
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Speaker 6: and in life.

507
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Speaker 4: Jan if my son had a C plus and anything,

508
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Speaker 4: he'd be he'd be freaked out.

509
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Speaker 7: There would not be any This book wouldn't help him.

510
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Speaker 7: I promise you that this book would not help him.

511
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Speaker 7: He would he would, Yeah, he had a plus. If

512
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Speaker 7: he had c plus, I trust me this book.

513
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Speaker 4: The only thing this book would be used for is

514
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Speaker 4: we ain't going to talk about that on the TV.

515
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Speaker 6: But I think you get my point in any case, yes,

516
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Speaker 6: of course, and go ahead, got no. I was just

517
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 6: another parallel that's actually was quite serendipitous, was you know,

518
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Speaker 6: And if you know the book writing process, this book

519
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 6: was signed, sealed, and delivered by last fall. I mean

520
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 6: not all the chapters written. There was a production process.

521
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Speaker 6: So we're just have our feet up, letting the factories

522
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Speaker 6: do their job, and we're watching the World Series, and

523
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 6: lo and behold, mister Yamamoto pitches a complete game in

524
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Speaker 6: Game two in the World Series against the Blue Jays,

525
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Speaker 6: and before he goes back in the clubhouse, he picks

526
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Speaker 6: up every piece of trash in the dugout. And that

527
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Speaker 6: is our chapter ninety two. Clean up your own mess,

528
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 6: dragging the field, cleaning the dugout, clean up your messes,

529
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Speaker 6: take pride in your space. So we're just very proud

530
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Speaker 6: to see Yamamoto, you know, practice well, we're preaching. And

531
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Speaker 6: my joke has been maybe he got a sneak copy

532
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Speaker 6: of the book and I think more likely he was

533
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Speaker 6: raised that way in Japan, but it just shows the

534
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Speaker 6: value of that at the highest level, on the biggest stage.

535
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Speaker 5: I'm actually going to be reading this book to my

536
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Speaker 5: high school team that I coach because there's a lot

537
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Speaker 5: of very applicable things, and I feel like, as a coach,

538
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 5: you're applying these things, yes to baseball, but ultimately they're

539
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Speaker 5: not going to be big league baseball players. They're going

540
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Speaker 5: to be men, husbands, brothers, sons for the rest of

541
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Speaker 5: their life. Who were you thinking of when you wrote

542
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Speaker 5: these chapters when you're I know you're co author, so

543
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Speaker 5: you wrote it together. But when you were going through

544
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Speaker 5: these and you're like these life lessons and all this stuff,

545
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Speaker 5: who were the people that were coming to your mind

546
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Speaker 5: as you wrote these words?

547
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Speaker 1: All right?

548
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Speaker 6: Definitely my son. My son is now twenty two in college,

549
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Speaker 6: but he played ball and I coached on occasion when

550
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Speaker 6: I when my schedule allowed me. You know, I was

551
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Speaker 6: like the third base coach. I can be the mager

552
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Speaker 6: because I was too busy covering you guys. But I

553
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Speaker 6: just thought of my son playing travel ball, playing junior

554
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Speaker 6: high school ball, middle school ball, and the lessons we

555
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 6: tried to take away from that and all of his

556
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 6: his his teammates at the time, and now you know,

557
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 6: going down the line, maybe off grand kids. Someday I

558
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 6: can impart these two.

559
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Speaker 3: All right.

560
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Speaker 4: There's a couple there's a couple of chapters I wanted

561
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Speaker 4: to talk to about, and one of them is the Mound.

562
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Speaker 4: I love the Mound the Mound one because you're like,

563
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Speaker 4: the mound is in the middle of the diamond and

564
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Speaker 4: it's built up, and you got you stand there and

565
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Speaker 4: so take your shot on the mound.

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Speaker 1: Right.

567
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Speaker 4: I've had this conversation with my kids many times where hey,

568
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Speaker 4: you have to fake it sometimes and just tell yourself

569
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Speaker 4: that I'm the Kenny Rogers song right, the Greatest where

570
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Speaker 4: he strikes out and he says it's such a great picture.

571
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Speaker 4: It's kind of like that, like you just have to

572
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Speaker 4: tell yourself, I'm on the mound, it's my time, and

573
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna shine.

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Speaker 7: I love that chapter. And the other one, I don't

575
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Speaker 7: know what I forget what it.

576
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Speaker 4: Was called, but it was about the snapping when you

577
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Speaker 4: get mad and you lose your your cool and you

578
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: throw stuff. I don't know which one that one is,

579
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Speaker 4: but I just want to say, as someone that did

580
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Speaker 4: that lot, yeah, it wasn't the best idea and I

581
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 4: don't tell my kids to do that, but man, for

582
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Speaker 4: those for those ten seconds, you feel like awesome. So

583
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Speaker 4: don't do it, kids, But for those ten seconds, I

584
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Speaker 4: have to stay.

585
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Speaker 6: We didn't include that part as we edit out that

586
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Speaker 6: ten second part, but we h. You're talking about chapter

587
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Speaker 6: eighty two the head trip controlling your emotion, controlling your temper,

588
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Speaker 6: which I think fittingly precedes chapter eighty three. The umpire

589
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Speaker 6: accept responsibility and follow the rules, and you know they're

590
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Speaker 6: luck with They all blessed, all the umpires out there,

591
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 6: so you know when the umpire does make a rare mistake,

592
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Speaker 6: sometimes you just have to accept you can't control everything

593
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Speaker 6: in life and move on, right.

594
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Speaker 7: Or get ejected and move on to the next game

595
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Speaker 7: and move on to the next day.

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Speaker 4: That's why I get ejected as Aaron Boone does so often.

597
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: You cover him all the time. Just stand up for

598
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: your guys and then move on.

599
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Speaker 2: So yeah, this was written with an MD the sequels

600
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Speaker 2: coming out with catter aj on some of his the.

601
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Speaker 1: Which leads me to my next question.

602
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Speaker 2: Can you describe your relationship with David Wright and how

603
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Speaker 2: you got him involved with the book.

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00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

605
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Speaker 6: Look, I covered David for the entirety of his career.

606
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 6: I met him for the first time at the two

607
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 6: thousand and four Futures Game in Houston, and then he

608
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: made his big league debut I think it was about

609
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Speaker 6: a week later. And one of the best guys you'll

610
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Speaker 6: ever know in any walk of life. And I knew

611
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Speaker 6: David was living a quiet life in southern California. I

612
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 6: knew he was coaching his three young children, so I

613
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 6: thought this book would connect with him, and low and behold,

614
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Speaker 6: it did, and I was so grateful for David's participation

615
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 6: and his blessing, and we were talking through the forward

616
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 6: that he wrote. I was so thrilled to ruize he

617
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Speaker 6: actually does this, like he actually uses the game and

618
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Speaker 6: like one of his daughters plays soccer. So it's not

619
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Speaker 6: specifically not limited, I should say, to softball, baseball, but

620
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 6: he uses the sports to teach his kids about other

621
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Speaker 6: walks of life. So I think that's just wonderful and

622
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Speaker 6: very great to David for joining us on this journey.

623
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Speaker 2: So now I'm going to try and spin this into

624
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Speaker 2: the game that we cover all the time. For the

625
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Speaker 2: most part, here major league based. What parts do you

626
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Speaker 2: think apply well here to major league players? And what

627
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Speaker 2: other parts do you think, you know, don't apply well

628
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Speaker 2: to major league players? And I mean that with the

629
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Speaker 2: way that the game has changed, I mean we cover

630
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Speaker 2: a lot of really good dudes that look like they

631
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Speaker 2: were you know, and sound like they were raised well,

632
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: they have the right values and morals. I would say overall,

633
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: I think the players getting less trouble than they used to.

634
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Speaker 2: You can take that for what it is, but yeah,

635
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on the character of major league players, but

636
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Speaker 2: then also on the way that these players are evaluated,

637
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Speaker 2: because it makes me think back to where we started,

638
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: where you're talking about small ball and like generally nowadays

639
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: it's something that we bring up in the playoffs and

640
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: it's fun. But overall, if you're that kind of guy,

641
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: you don't get paid as much, so your value is lower.

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Speaker 6: Yes, got that's a very fair question. And yeah, this

643
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 6: book is written for, as we said, kids twelve and up.

644
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 6: And I yeah, if you want to drill down, for sure,

645
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 6: some lessons of major league baseball have evolved in terms

646
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 6: of if you want to succeed at the highest level,

647
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 6: you know, swing for home runs, right, because it's hard

648
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 6: to string three or four hits together off this caliber

649
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 6: of pitching. But I do think I'm confident that the

650
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Speaker 6: high majority of the chapters very much apply to the

651
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Speaker 6: game at the highest level because most of them having

652
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Speaker 6: to do do have to do with how do you

653
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Speaker 6: deal with adversity? How do you deal with unexpected circumstances?

654
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Speaker 6: AJ before mentioned the drop third strike right like be ready,

655
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Speaker 6: be ready to all times in your life if you

656
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Speaker 6: catch a break, you know, and that certainly applies to

657
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Speaker 6: major League baseball, and I just I do think that

658
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Speaker 6: most of the time, you still the right thing as

659
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Speaker 6: a twelve year old is the right thing as a

660
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Speaker 6: as a multimillion dollar ballplayer.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you a couple of things about

662
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Speaker 2: the current sport, and we can stay on the New

663
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Speaker 2: York teams here for a moment with you, since that's

664
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Speaker 2: where you're based. So you covered the Yankees for a

665
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Speaker 2: long time. What do you think about their off season?

666
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Speaker 2: It seems like they checked the boxes. But when you're

667
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Speaker 2: a fan, and maybe when you're a Yankees fan especially

668
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Speaker 2: and you haven't won in a while for their terms,

669
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Speaker 2: you're like, wait, we're mostly running it back and We'll

670
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Speaker 2: have a couple injury returns at some point, So how

671
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Speaker 2: do you evaluate what they did?

672
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Speaker 1: And I'm just presenting the case here.

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Speaker 2: We just talked about them and they had a very

674
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Speaker 2: successful regular season and then they got bounced pretty good.

675
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Speaker 1: But oh we're back. You got us.

676
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Speaker 2: Sorry we froze Forer A second thoughts on the Yankees

677
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: running it back and it almost seems like, I mean,

678
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Speaker 2: you covered Brank Hassman for a long time. He's been

679
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: defending it like, no, we're running it back because this

680
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: team can win a World Series.

681
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Speaker 6: So your thoughts, Yeah, it's a It is a truly

682
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Speaker 6: fascinating gambit because, as you said, Scott, the fan base

683
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Speaker 6: is not happy. My point of curiosity, how does the

684
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Speaker 6: team feel? I mean, these two guys here, Agan Eric

685
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 6: can speak to the jolt a team gets mid season

686
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 6: when those new guys come in by a trade, right,

687
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 6: and the disappointment when that doesn't happen. So I'm curious

688
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 6: in that clubhouse, is there any what is the move there?

689
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Speaker 6: My hunch is that this group is pretty together and

690
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Speaker 6: so that's not going to be an issue. That is

691
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Speaker 6: just a matter of is this team talented enough to

692
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Speaker 6: win it all? It is, and I you know, to me,

693
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Speaker 6: the biggest areas of concern are I'm surprised I haven't

694
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Speaker 6: gotten more guys with higher floors for their starting rotation

695
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Speaker 6: and for their bullpen, because I think they have guys

696
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Speaker 6: with high ceilings. When you look at a kid like

697
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Speaker 6: Ryan Weathers, whose dad I covered on the ninety six Yankees,

698
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 6: David Weather's was a high ceiling, but I wouldn't say

699
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 6: as a high floor. So I still wouldn't surprise if

700
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Speaker 6: they brought in a couple more veterans who give them

701
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Speaker 6: just some more certainty in terms of the innings.

702
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Speaker 2: All right, and then I'll flip you over to the

703
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Speaker 2: Mets side of things. Super interesting offseason for them. They

704
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Speaker 2: switched it up quite a bit, and I don't think

705
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: anyone would doubt that they needed to switch things up

706
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: a little bit. It's actually funny where you talked to

707
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Speaker 2: a lot of Mets fans because I'm Offen in the

708
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: New York area, and they're pretty bummed that they lost

709
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: out on some of their guys, yet also excited for

710
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Speaker 2: who they brought in. I mean, in a perfect world,

711
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 2: it's like they wish they kept Edwin Diez and Pee

712
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: Alonzo and then still made these moves. You can't do

713
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Speaker 2: all of that. So what are your thoughts on what

714
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Speaker 2: they did this offseason? And also the way that they're

715
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Speaker 2: looking at a number of players out of position and

716
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Speaker 2: saying they'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Actually, it's funny. We've been talking about this with the Brewers.

718
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Speaker 2: They're playing all kinds of puzzle piece action right now

719
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Speaker 2: after they traded away Caleb Durban.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think if they had brought in I'm sorry,

721
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Speaker 6: if they had brought back Edwin Diaz and done everything else,

722
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Speaker 6: I think would be an a plus offseason, and I

723
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Speaker 6: think there would be universal acclaim and even excitement among

724
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Speaker 6: the Mets. Are the very Mets fans who were so

725
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Speaker 6: upset that they traded Nimo and let Pete go. I

726
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 6: do think that bullpen just stands out to me. Devin Williams,

727
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Speaker 6: And if you you know, I'm no longer covering the

728
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 6: game full time, but I certainly still pay attention a lot.

729
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Speaker 6: And this whole idea that Devin Williams, Oh, if you

730
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 6: look at the underlying numbers, he actually had a good year. Like, no,

731
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Speaker 6: I'm not buying that. Like he struggled as the Yankees

732
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 6: closer and everything that comes with that responsibility. And now

733
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Speaker 6: he's going to be in the same town with a

734
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Speaker 6: lot of the very same media people in the same

735
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Speaker 6: volume of media. So that is not a slam dunk

736
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Speaker 6: for me. I do like Luke Weaver as a as

737
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 6: another guy there, and in terms of the defense, yeah,

738
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 6: huge risk. What's interesting is these guys are athletic, right

739
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 6: Bishett and Polanco, So you're not putting dhs out there

740
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Speaker 6: at new positions. But a risk for sure, But it

741
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 6: seems like it was a necessary to necessary move to

742
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 6: kind of blow things up and start over. And we'll

743
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Speaker 6: see if it works. I'll say now, I'd be very

744
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 6: surprised if they did not exceed last year's eighty three

745
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Speaker 6: and seventy nine record.

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Speaker 4: Ken, I just want to know, since you don't cover

747
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 4: the teams anymore, who ends the year with the better record?

748
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Speaker 4: The Yankees are the Mets this year, since you're not,

749
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Speaker 4: since you don't have to cover them, now, you can

750
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Speaker 4: give us your honest opinion who this year finishes with

751
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: the better record.

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Speaker 6: I would hope I was giving my hosesbite opinion before.

753
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that I'm in the media, I know that

754
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Speaker 4: our media work.

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Speaker 6: So I don't have to say the Yankees just because,

756
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 6: but the Yankees have The Yankees have historically figured it

757
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 6: out better and more often than the Mets, and I

758
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 6: do think the Yankees have fewer question marks about the

759
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 6: overall team, So I would have to go with the Yankees.

760
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 6: Agent right.

761
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: We have a lot of players and writers on but

762
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 5: one of the common themes is New York tough city

763
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 5: to play in.

764
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Speaker 7: You know, there's a lot of pressure.

765
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Speaker 5: Why did you put so much pressure on all those

766
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 5: players as part of the media and reading your book,

767
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 5: it feels like there's the.

768
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Speaker 7: Soft side of you? Is there a way? Is there

769
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Speaker 7: is there?

770
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Speaker 5: Is there a part of you that saw some of

771
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 5: that media like that players can't handle New York, which

772
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 5: I don't one hundred percent believe, and maybe you took

773
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Speaker 5: it a little bit easier on players.

774
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Speaker 6: I do think this book is a reflection of the

775
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 6: fact that I was burnt out on the job that

776
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 6: you guys are doing now covering the game every day,

777
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 6: like it's it's such a grind. And I loved it

778
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 6: and it was my childhood dream, but I just reached

779
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 6: a point where like I wasn't enjoying this anymore. And

780
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 6: this book was such a refreshing change of pace for me,

781
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 6: just to really embrace the game in such a loving

782
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 6: way and talk about the game at its fundamental level,

783
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 6: to talk about the three outs and the nine innings

784
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 6: and the bases and all these different elements. So that

785
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 6: was a true joy for me. As for New York, Eric,

786
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Speaker 6: I'm curious. I'm interested to hear you say that, because

787
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 6: I believe it's a real thing. Like I saw enough

788
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 6: guys just struggle. More than anything. It's just the volume, right,

789
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 6: It's the volume of quantity of people. And I do

790
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 6: think the commentary is harsher than it is in other

791
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: markets by and large. But even like I always the story.

792
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 6: I always tell Randy Johnson, you know, Hall of Fame

793
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 6: pitcher all time at worse, the second best left the

794
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 6: starter ever, right, like just a fina. But Randy came

795
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 6: to New York and like he didn't like all that attention.

796
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: I think he'd be the first to tell you. And

797
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 6: he like I remember, like between start, you know, throwd

798
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 6: between starts, and he would throw and like media will

799
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Speaker 6: come up with him, like you, how'd your session go, Randy?

800
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 6: Like what are you talking about? Yeah, we know your

801
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 6: last two starts haven't been great. Did you change anything

802
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 6: up in your session?

803
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: Like?

804
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 6: What do you do differently? Like? That was like mind

805
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 6: blowing for Randy because I think, with all the respect

806
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 6: to the smaller markets, he played it like he would

807
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 6: just do his own business between starts and never get

808
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 6: a questioned about anything.

809
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a great It didn't help Ken.

810
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 7: Then he shoved the cameraman right. That didn't help me either.

811
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Speaker 7: I mean, that's let's.

812
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: Welcome to New York.

813
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, now is a cameraman. That's right?

814
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 6: Oh, good pivot there.

815
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 7: He should have definitely should have read that. Listen.

816
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: I think that, I mean, I listen to someone that

817
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: played in big and small markets.

818
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 7: I don't know that.

819
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: It's definitely the media coverage. I think it all also

820
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 4: has to do with the way teams handle it, because

821
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 4: different teams handle things different ways. And it starts with

822
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: the manager in the in the front office people and

823
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: if you the guys who are right, and I'll give

824
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: Aaron Boone credit.

825
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 7: For this a lot.

826
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Speaker 4: And I don't know Cashman as well as I know Boonie,

827
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: but they really try to take pressure off the players, right,

828
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: like and I think Carlos Mendoza does a great job

829
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: in New York with us too, like that Aaron Boone's like,

830
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: throw it on me, I'll take it, you know, and

831
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: so that it's not on them. Then you can get

832
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 4: a manager that is like, oh, well, I don't know

833
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: why he did that, asked the player, and then the

834
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 4: players like, well, he gave me the bonner, he gave

835
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 4: me the hit and run, or he brought me into

836
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 4: the game, right, you know. So I think it can

837
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 4: be a thing, but it also can be mitigated and

838
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 4: lessened a little bit if you're people in charge help

839
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: you a little bit and not say, oh, it's all

840
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 4: the players fault or it's all you know, Oh well

841
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: ask him, Like, no, ask me, I'm in charge. I'll

842
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: handle the heat. And I think that helps.

843
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. Well, we appreciate the time. Great conversation

844
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: with you. Ken's book is available wherever you get books.

845
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: One oh one Lessons from the Dugout What baseball and

846
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: softball can teach us about the game of life and

847
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: if you go on the back. Some recommendations include Reggie Jackson,

848
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: Bernie Williams, Joe Girardi, and Cayrol Hutchins. Who's the winningest

849
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: softball coach in NCAA history. Ken, thanks again for joining us.

850
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: Congrats on the book. We appreciate you putting this together

851
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: and joining us.

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00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 6: Guys, thanks for having me. Great to see all