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Hope you're having a great day. 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day, not just 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: on your Fox Sports Radio affiliates, but also on the 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: So. 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: I find this to be super interesting that we kind 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: of go through this sort of every year thing, you know, 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: every time we have a possible chance of talking about soccer, 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: we talk about soccer, as if soccer is so important 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: we all know about soccer, even though it's pretty obvious 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: that our collective soccer acumens are not great, just not 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: regardless of which. There's a bunch to get into. Okay, 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: here's the first thing. Okay, here's the first thing. We 20 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: lost yesterday in the Gold Cup. In the Gold Cup, 21 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: I had I don't really know what the Gold Cup 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: is I think it's just teams from this side of it, 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: from the Americas, North and South America, is my guess, 24 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: and apparently it's played all the time. I've been told 25 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: that this was not like four dudes that are on 26 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: the team and a bunch of guys fighting to make 27 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: the team, whereas for Mexico this was in fact their team. 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: That's what I've been told, profess to be. I'm not 29 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: gonna sit here and lie to you, you know, and 30 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: lie to you and act like I watch soccer all 31 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: the time or I care about soccer on a regular basis. 32 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: I continue to tell you that until the moment comes 33 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: when the best athletes we have in our high schools 34 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: or growing up play and stick with soccer, we're always 35 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: going to be doing this. And I had a great 36 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: discussion with some friends as we're watching the game yesterday, 37 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: and no, I'm not gonna say match okay, because what 38 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't do is again, I don't lie to you, 39 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: and I don't change all the basic verbiage to fit. 40 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: It's like I'm not gonna call something a foyer and 41 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: then only use American terms for everything else. I'm not 42 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: gonna say foyer and sofa and vaz no thanks. I'm 43 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: also not gonna say pitch. I'm not gonna call the 44 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: uniforms a kit, and I'm not gonna say that it's 45 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: a mass. Again, I want all of our vocabulary, all 46 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: the vernacular, to match up. Try to not be fake 47 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: to you. So if it bothers you, sorry, But again, 48 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be consistent. In America, we play 49 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: on fields, we play games, we wear uniforms. Okay, we 50 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: don't have to adjust to everybody else's pronunciation since we 51 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: call it soccer and everybody else calls it football. Wait, 52 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: now we're gonna call it. We're gonna call it soccer, 53 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: but we're gonna call it a kid like. Don't do both. 54 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: And if you call it football, you sound like a fool, 55 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: because we think of football. It's Screen Bay Packers, it's 56 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, it's the Kansa City Chiefs. Again, wasn't 57 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: our best and brightest was most of their team. Their 58 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: starters in the team didn't possess the ball, a ton 59 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: got pushed around a lot. Did feel like they got 60 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: their calls right and we could go to the off 61 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: side thing. But how many of you knew the rules? 62 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: For a handball in soccer before yesterday. And I say 63 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: that because apparently the rule is not that if the 64 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: ball hits your hands it's a handball. It's if it's 65 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: in the natural motion of what you're doing. For example, 66 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: you're running down the field, not the pitch. You're righting 67 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: out the field, ball comes whizzing by, and then all 68 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden somebody else kicks it back the other way, 69 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: and while running the ball grazes your hand. That's not 70 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: a handball. If it's in the natural Now, if you 71 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: reach out to grab the ball, that's a handball. And 72 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: I bring it up because what appeared to be for 73 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: all of us that don't actually know what we think 74 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: we know, which is the basic rules of soccer, that 75 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: because the officials felt like he was falling down and 76 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: it's natural to put your hand down. Again, for that 77 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: one particular ruling, they called it not a penalty. And again, 78 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: it looked like a pedal to me and looked like 79 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: a handball. But I didn't even know the rule. And 80 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious how many of us, myself included, 81 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: played soccer. I played soccer for like seven years grown 82 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: up as a kid. My daughters have played soccer, My 83 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: son played soccer, and I had zero idea that you 84 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: could actually touch the ball with your hand and not 85 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: be a handball if it's in the natural motion of 86 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: what you're doing, Jay, stud Did you have any idea 87 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: about that? Oh, not at all. I wouldn't even pretend to, right, Sam, No, No, 88 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: I thought for sure, I'd ask Sam, and Sam go, oh, yes, 89 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: I know this ruling, this comes from. This comes from 90 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: back in nineteen seventy three when the Argentines were playing. Again. 91 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't I'm in the dark on this one. So 92 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: me too, zero idea. So and look, there's lots of 93 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: other parts to it, you know. I don't think most 94 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: people know what holding really is, like, well, he's grabbing 95 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: his shirt, like they actually allow some form of holding, 96 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: Like the rules a little bit different in basketball. People 97 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: don't know what a goaltend is. They don't know what 98 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: a charge is, they don't know what vertictality is. There's 99 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: lots of things they don't know. And the problem is 100 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: that soccer seems so easy. It does. It seems so easy, 101 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Like you can't touch the ball your hands, Actually you can't, Like, 102 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: what do you mean you can't well you can if it's 103 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: like a normal movement and automatically gets kicked kicked against 104 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: you and then it deflects or whatever. So my big 105 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: takeaway yesterday is none of us really know anything about soccer, 106 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: and nothing can be made more obvious than in that 107 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: the handball that wasn't called it probably should have been. 108 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: But whatever, it's disputable, it matters, but sort of doesn't matter. Eloa, 109 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: did you know the actual ruling to what is and 110 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: what is not a handball before yesterday? 111 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 3: Doug, you have hit the nail on the head. The 112 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: best way I can describe it for the non pitch, 113 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: non kick, non nil audience out there is it's the 114 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: equivalent of an American football commentator throwing their hands up 115 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: and saying, you know what, I don't know what it 116 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: catches anymore. I don't know what it catches when you 117 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: have these instant replay overturnings. It's happened so often this 118 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: year where you will see well versed commentators in the 119 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: sport say the same thing, I don't know what a 120 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: handball is and is not anymore, Because just like you, 121 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: all of us, even people inside the industry, grew up saying, well, 122 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: if it hits your hand of the penalty area. 123 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: It's a handball and. 124 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: A penalty care and during this year, and I've got 125 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: the I've got the law, the actual laws of the 126 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: game in front of me, and it talks about this 127 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: unnaturally bigger deal. But even despite that, I see obvious 128 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: things that are a handball that are not called, that 129 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: have nothing to do with that, but they're still not called. 130 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: So it's not just you. It's people who are in 131 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: the industry full time who kind of throw their hands 132 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: up and are like, yeah, I don't even know what 133 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: a handball is anymore. Before it used to be intent 134 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 3: doesn't matter, even if it's not intentional and it touches 135 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: your hand or your arm, it's a handball and a 136 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: penalty area and a penalty kick. But apparently not anymore. 137 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: So you're not alone in being mystified. 138 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: There you go, There you go again. Like we could 139 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: go into the we we still suck, right, We could 140 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: do that. We could talk about the World Cup and 141 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: how they expanded it really kind of like Major League 142 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: Baseball's playoffs to make sure the important teams like us 143 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: get and kind of stay involved and stay engaged and 144 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: are always in it. Like all those things sort of matter, right, 145 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: Like it's kind of brilliant from FIFA. Obviously we would 146 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: have been in this World Cup, but in other World 147 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Cups you need America in. It drives up the value 148 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: of the TV dollars, right, and so all of a sudden, 149 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: now they can make more and more money on it. 150 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of brilliant. Plus more teams, more hotel rooms, 151 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: more cities, more involvement, more, more and more and more. 152 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: It's all more of everything. And we'll get to the 153 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: other part to it is there's like a there's like 154 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: an old guard and a new guard thing, right, Like 155 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: Kristen Pulisicch decided not to play and he's like, you know, 156 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm playing like seventy games overseas. Like I'm good. I'll 157 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: see you guys through the World Cup. The old heads 158 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: are like beck when I was a kid, we used 159 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: to play for TVUSA every time and not realizing that, 160 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: you know, like Alex say a lotless. I don't think 161 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: he ever played in Europe when he did it in 162 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: play seventy games in Europe, so you know, even Landon 163 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Donovan took a mental break. But regardless of all of that, 164 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: getting into hardcore soccer talk. I'm watching a match. I'm 165 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: watching the sport that I played when I was seven 166 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: years old. Shout out to the Ballistics. That was my 167 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: first ever travel soccer club. I think it was eight 168 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: when I joined the Ballistics and I had no idea. 169 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm like yelling at the screen at the hurt ball. 170 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: I was like the worst type of fan, which I 171 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: just despise not I mean, look like even Jay stu 172 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: who openly heckled and recorded himself heckling Jose Altuve yesterday 173 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: at the Dodgers game. By the way, ol Tuve hit 174 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: a home run surely thereafter the heckling. Good good job. 175 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: You're just the ultimate motivator, Jay Suo, that's what you are. 176 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts. Last year in the playoffs, you did that. 177 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: Jose al Tuve hitting a home run yesterday you did 178 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: that as well. Anyway, I'm like the worst version of 179 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: myself ever. I'm yelling with anger at the screen. How 180 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: can you not know that? And then a buddy of 181 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: mine text me, He's like, you know, that might not 182 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: have been a handball. It's like, what are you talking about? 183 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: Like he go down on his hand on the ball. 184 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: It couldn't be more obvious, like yeah, it doesn't actually 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: have to do with that, like what And it was 186 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: one of those I was today years old that I 187 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: learned that I had no idea zero, that you could 188 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: actually hit the ball with your hands, not be a goalie, 189 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: and it not be a handball. Now, look, most people 190 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: will say that should have been a handball anyway, but 191 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: I had no idea. And I think it speaks to 192 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: the greater point about soccer, which is like we all 193 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: think we know something because most of us played it. 194 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: That was our first sport growing up, right, And then 195 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: what would you do. There'd just be like a little 196 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: cloud of dust running down the field, going back and forth. 197 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: And now they start out with like no goalkeepers or whatever, 198 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: so it's like we can't keep score. And then afterwards 199 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: they need to do the tunnel. The tunnel. The kids 200 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: will love the tunnel, and they still get Capri's sons. 201 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: How great an avention. Somewhere there's somebody, I'm guessing Jay 202 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: stew They live in Newport Coast, California, right, which is 203 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: pretty much the best baller place ever to live on earth. 204 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: That in the northern part of San Diego, right, somebody 205 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: invented the Caprice son there and it's just laughing without 206 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: bringing this up. Caprice Sons still work, still cool, kids 207 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: still love them, like I don't know anybody who buys 208 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Twinkies or ding Dongs or Hostess anymore. I know they 209 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: will survive the nuclear holocaust, but Caprice Sons people still 210 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: buy it. Matter of fact, there are bars that serve 211 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: drinks with Caprice son and vodka. Sometimes they just use 212 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: the caprice hun thing. Do you guys know that? Anyway, 213 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: we all had the same experience growing up where we 214 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: played soccer until we decided to grow up and play 215 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: a real sport. That's just a tinge of sarcasm in there, 216 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: But because we played soccer, we assume we know the 217 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: rules pretty obvious soccer they call football because you go 218 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: touch with your feet unless you're a goalie. Turns out 219 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: you can in fact touch the soccer ball with your 220 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: hand and if you're playing in the field, but there's 221 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: some rules to it. It's got to be kind of 222 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: natural movements or here's a ah is it. Mauricio Pachettino, 223 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: the Argentinian coach of Team USA. After the match, I. 224 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: See his massive lesson for us, I don't see is priceless. 225 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: I think it's was an amazing tournament to realize in 226 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: the way that we wanted to grow. I think that 227 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: is a night that is very very painful night, because 228 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: when you lose a trophy or you lose a game, 229 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: it's really really painful. But the most important scene is 230 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: to have our head up. 231 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, have your head up. Play most of our backups 232 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: or really competitive at Mexico Bets. Big thing is your 233 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: boy learned not all handballs or handballs that you can 234 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: actually touch the ball with your hands and not get 235 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: a penalty, although that did appear to be pill. 236 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 237 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 238 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio. 239 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: App it It's Doug gott Leap Show Fox Sports Radio. 240 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: For forty years, Tyrak has been helping customers find the 241 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: right tires for how what where they drive, ship faster 242 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: and free back by free road asp protection with convenien 243 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: slation options like multi tier slation, tyrat Dock I'm way 244 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: tired buying should be now a'sign for our Tyraq play. 245 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: They they care of FS one set piece here for 246 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: Mexico alf a wattle to fake. 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Again, we're not looking 251 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: for clear and obvious here as we would at MLS. 252 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: What is looking for the right decision. 253 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: And it is a good goal. 254 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: It is a Mexico goal. 255 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 5: It is Zen Alvare who's given Mexico the lane with 256 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 5: twelve minutes to play. 257 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: That was the call on FS one of the what 258 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: became game winning in Gold Cup, winning call a call 259 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: goal excuse me by Mexico. That's the Doug Gottlieb Show. 260 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Radio, and oh, I am so excited 261 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: to have our good friend Rick bucheron. Of course, he 262 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: covers all things NBA. You seem on Fox Sports one, 263 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: you read his work at Fox sports dot com and 264 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: if you followed the NBA for the past twenty five years, 265 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: Bucus synonymous with his coverage of the sport. Okay, get 266 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: me the state of the LA Lakers, right DeAndre Aytons signs, Okay, 267 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: there was. Brian Windhors Is like, Hey, I never said 268 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: this before, but wouldn't be crazy if you know there's 269 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: a window there where Lebron could be moved. What's the 270 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: state of the Lakers as a what is this July seventh? 271 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 6: Look, it's it's not beyond the realm of possibility. But 272 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 6: the reality is it's more a reflection of the relationship 273 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 6: between Lebron and the Lakers than their ability to actually 274 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 6: do something, which is, he knows they're moving on. They 275 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 6: know they're moving on. He no longer has the same 276 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 6: juice there, and so a lot of this, a lot 277 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 6: of this is just trying to create as much leverage 278 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 6: for Lebron as he can in terms of his influence 279 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 6: remaining influence with the team. But the fact of the 280 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 6: matter is they're building around Luka Doncic and what they 281 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 6: would get back for Lebron. I don't think they have 282 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 6: any issue with moving on from Lebron or moving Lebron 283 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 6: at this point, but what they would get back for 284 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 6: him wouldn't be commensurate with what he's still capable of 285 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 6: doing for them. So as big as the contract is, 286 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 6: this idea that people want like or thinking of Lebron 287 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 6: in the same terms as fans do NBA teams. And 288 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 6: it's been a couple of years now. I've tucked to 289 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 6: a number of you know, over the years when he's 290 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 6: the guest, is that he might look around or he 291 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 6: might go someplace else. And I had any number of 292 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 6: owners say, I just don't know that it's financially worth 293 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 6: it at this point, because you know, it's a rental. 294 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 6: You know, he's their short terms, and it's not just 295 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 6: him as a player, it's everything else that you have 296 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 6: to give over or deal with as a result of 297 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 6: Lebron being part of your franchise. So I know there's 298 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 6: the popular thing is he's going to go back to Cleveland. 299 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 6: It makes no sense for Cleveland at this stage, for 300 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 6: where that team is and what they're building. Why do 301 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 6: you reach back. I mean it would be a nostalgic 302 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 6: move if certainly Lebron I think on some levels would invite, 303 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 6: you know, one last year in Cleveland, but for the 304 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 6: arc of that team and where they are, it doesn't 305 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 6: make any sense. And I can't I can't look at 306 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 6: another team where I say, acquiring Lebron James makes sense. 307 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you think? Give me the best guess. 308 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: What do you think happens over this and into next year? 309 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 6: I would imagine that, Well, what I'm waiting for is 310 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 6: to hear whether this is going to be Lebron's last run. 311 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 6: And I don't know that he's decided that, but it 312 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 6: it feels like it's simply because he could have opted 313 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 6: out and created his normal scenario of signing a one 314 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 6: on one and extending it and giving us the impression 315 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 6: that he is he's considering playing another year, he didn't 316 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 6: do that, and I think this is this might be 317 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 6: the first time where he's actually exercised his option for 318 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 6: the final year and is playing it out. And maybe 319 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 6: some of that is to check the landscape. I hate 320 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 6: to say it, but check the landscape. Asta Is there 321 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 6: a world where Bronny and Bryce and Lebron can all 322 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 6: play together? You know, whether that's on his on his 323 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 6: bucket list or not. But then again, you have to 324 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: look at what franchise at this stage is looking to 325 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 6: have Lebron and his two sons and would be willing 326 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 6: to do all that is necessary the sacrifice is made 327 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 6: to make that happen. It would be an interesting box 328 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 6: office draw, but as far as the development and evolution 329 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 6: of a franchise, it would be a hard sell. 330 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it can be fascinating. My problem with them saying 331 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: it's his last go round would be he would have 332 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: to have the We know he wants a tour, right like, 333 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: he wants all the celebrations. Sure, and if he wanted that, 334 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: why didn't you know why the messaging recently, although the 335 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: messaging never seems to add up to the reality, So 336 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm not. 337 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 6: Really honestly, I feel as if a lot of the 338 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 6: messaging coming from from Rich Paul primarily is just trying 339 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 6: to create the image or the impression. I mean, part 340 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 6: of it is like I'm still playing for championships. Let's 341 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 6: be serious. I mean, what what like that's just you know, 342 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 6: it's just lip service at this point. There there's there's 343 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 6: not a world in which if that is truly the case, 344 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 6: then you would be doing the Tom Brady thing, and 345 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 6: you would be taking less than you're eligible to take, and. 346 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: And you wouldn't have and you wouldn't have had them 347 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: focus so much attention on Brownie, right like, like you 348 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: wouldn't all of that, all. 349 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: Of that he's not. 350 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: He's as is. 351 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 6: Could he be part of a championship team? Absolutely, he could, yes, 352 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 6: But but is he willing to play the role necessary 353 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 6: to be part of the championship team? And that's that's 354 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 6: the heart of it. And and you know that, I 355 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 6: know that, and fans may not recognize that, but I 356 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 6: assure you that NBA franchises do. 357 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Golden State Warriors, yes, their status. 358 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 6: Oh man, that's an interesting, interesting dynamic there. I mean, 359 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 6: they're exploring to see what the market is for kaminga 360 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 6: and you know, the the impressions right now or are there? 361 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 6: They're stuck in this place where again sort of like 362 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 6: the Lebron question, you know, can we get better? Can 363 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 6: we trade them for something that's going to make us 364 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 6: appreciably better? And they have not seen or heard anything 365 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 6: to this point that I know of. Uh that that 366 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 6: rings that bell. There's a lot of talk about Al 367 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 6: Horford uh coming in there. I think that gives you 368 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 6: a great indicator of of what their what their mindset 369 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 6: is is. We're we're going to ride this out, Draymond 370 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 6: step Jimmy like, we're we're maybe we should have thrown 371 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 6: everything to taking one last run with these guys a 372 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 6: couple of years ago when they tried to kind of 373 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 6: do both develop the young guys and uh and and 374 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 6: serve the remaining stars. But as of right now, it's 375 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 6: we're just going to push everything. We're gonna push all 376 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 6: our chips to the middle of the table. We're going 377 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 6: to see what's the best team that we can build 378 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 6: right now and we're not going to worry about tomorrow. 379 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Okay, can they build a championship caliber team right? Like? 380 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 6: I just I don't know. I don't know that they can. 381 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 6: And this is the heart of it. It It starts 382 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 6: with depth. Not that step isn't still a very good 383 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 6: to great player and don't tell me about making all 384 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 6: NBA and all that, and that's who he is. But 385 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 6: he just he can't do as much as he needs 386 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 6: to with this cast around him. And if you look 387 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 6: at guards point guards, this is the next everybody's like 388 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 6: in the Adels, his dad said, you know he could 389 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 6: play into his forties, yeah he could, but as far 390 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 6: as being an All Star, as far as being a 391 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 6: difference maker, like if you look at Jason Kidd, John Stockton, 392 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 6: Chris Paul, like all of them, even as good as 393 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 6: they were about taking care of their bodies and as 394 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 6: smart as they were and all of that. He's right 395 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 6: at the age where they could still play and they 396 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 6: can still be confident, but they're no longer at a 397 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 6: star level. And that is that's the roll of the 398 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 6: dice here, and that's the reality of where we are. 399 00:23:54,040 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 6: Is that is Death just isn't the megastar that he 400 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 6: once was. And so you look at this team and 401 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 6: neither's Draymond at the top of his game. So you 402 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 6: look at it and it's really, you know, who's who's 403 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 6: going to make up for the fact that you don't 404 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 6: have you know, nine ten, eleven deep that you're that 405 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 6: you're you're relying on a second round pick in Quinton 406 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 6: Post to be a factor and you're getting the most 407 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 6: or got the most out of a buddy heel. It's 408 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 6: just it's diminishing returns. It's just the reality. And and 409 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 6: I think that when people see the personal accolades or 410 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 6: they look at the statistics of the numbers, they think 411 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 6: that these guys are the same as they were and 412 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 6: and and they're simply not. 413 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: Stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, where 414 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: are we with Giannis in regards to him stay. 415 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 6: Or go, everything that I have heard to this point 416 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 6: is that he's still he's still saying that that he's 417 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 6: you know, there's a lot of innuendo about he didn't 418 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 6: like the Damian Lillard move or the Miles Turner move, 419 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 6: and I think once it if that was ever true, 420 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 6: and I don't know that it was, but if it 421 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: was ever true, once it was explained to him why 422 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 6: they did what they did, and that they did Gamian 423 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 6: a favor, uh, and that by doing what they did 424 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 6: with Damien it actually allowed them to sign a Miles 425 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 6: Turner and be more competitive in the short term. This 426 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 6: wasn't this wasn't like pairing it to the stud This 427 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 6: was wheezing out. How do we still stay in the mix? 428 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 6: So I think with all of that and the guys 429 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 6: that they've re signed, everything that I know to this 430 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 6: point is as sexy as it would be to entertain 431 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 6: where could Yannis go and what what's going to happen next? 432 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 6: Everything that I know is that he still planned to 433 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 6: stay in Milwaukee. 434 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: Mike Brown is the new head coach of the Knicks. Yeah, 435 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: how's the what's the league saying about that? Yeah. Eh. 436 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean I. 437 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 6: If this had been their plan from the start, they 438 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 6: jumped out there and recruited or interview Taylor Jenkins and 439 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 6: Mike Brown, and we're trying to decide where they were 440 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 6: going to go there, I think people would would would 441 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 6: feel a little more confident about this. Nobody's looking at 442 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 6: nobody in the league looks at this move and has 443 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 6: told me, oh, this is just what they needed to 444 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 6: have happened, like this is going to make the difference. 445 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 6: Tom Thibodeau had his strengths and weaknesses, Mike Brown has 446 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 6: his strengths and weaknesses. They're kind of along the same line. 447 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 6: Mike Brown's offensive game and understanding has evolved somewhat, but 448 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 6: still for the most part, he's a defensive oriented coach. 449 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: He's a little soft for touch then uh then then 450 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 6: then tips his approach and his personality. But it's not 451 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 6: it's not as anybody's looking at Mike Brown and saying 452 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 6: he's going to be a game changer. And my concern 453 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 6: is the last time I saw him in a big 454 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 6: market was in LA and that was short lived. And uh, 455 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 6: and New York is a lot grittier and a lot 456 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 6: tougher than uh than than La. The microscope is a 457 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 6: lot more intense, and I'll be interested to see how 458 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 6: he handles that, particularly with the bar set where it is. 459 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 6: They have to be good, They have to be good 460 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 6: right from the start, and we'll see whether whether he's 461 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 6: capable of meeting the mark. 462 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: Last thing. Rick Pieker's our guest here on the Doug 463 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, there's there's a 464 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: bunch of teams and players we haven't spoken by. What's 465 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: the next shoe to drop? Right? Kevin Rant's been moved, 466 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: Lilars a free agent. Okay, but there's a bunch of 467 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: guys who's that What's what's the next shoe to drop? 468 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 6: I we go back to the Warriors trying to find 469 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 6: a way to move Kaminga. I mean, I don't know 470 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 6: that of the teams that you know, we look at 471 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 6: that are we're intrigued by as far as what are 472 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 6: they going to do next? I know there's a lot 473 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 6: there's still some speculation out there that Memphiss is testing 474 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 6: the waters with John Morant and and what they could 475 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 6: possibly do or get there again. I think it's going 476 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 6: to have to be I don't think they're their impetus 477 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 6: to move him is we have to move him. We 478 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 6: have to find a deal. Like we're turning the page. 479 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 6: I think it's they're exploring to see whether there's something 480 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 6: out there for them to do. And I I at 481 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 6: the end of the day, I don't know that they're 482 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 6: going to get something. They haven't been presented anything to 483 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 6: this point that they're going to be presented something that's 484 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 6: going to convince them. This is the move to make. 485 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 6: We're going to be better as a result, we're gonna 486 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 6: sell more tickets, et cetera, et cetera. 487 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: Rick Buker check them out at Fox Sports One. Of course, 488 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: you can hear by here on Fox Sports Radio. Reada's 489 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: work at Fox sports dot com. Buker the best, Thanks 490 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. 491 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 492 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 493 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to us now, but as you know, you 494 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: can see us. Hello. 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Let's 499 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: go to Isaac Loncron and play a game. 500 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 501 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: I love what you got. 502 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: As Jim Harbor and Pete Carroll will once again say 503 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: to one another this year, what's your deal? 504 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: Big deal, little deal? 505 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: No deal? 506 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: Is it a big deal, little deal or no deal? 507 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 3: That the Indiana Pacers have announced that star Tyrese Haliburton 508 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: will miss all of next season. 509 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: No deal. I mean, if you look at all three 510 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: of these teams, Jason Tatum and the Celtics and the 511 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks and Damian Lillard and of course now the Pacers, 512 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: they're all planning to not have their guys for next year. 513 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: So no need to rush too serious an injury. You're 514 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: not gonna be by the time you get back. You're 515 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: not gonna be right anyway, so it's not like you're 516 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: gonna be able to be your old self. Then they'll 517 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: feel compelled to play. Yet, just shut them down for 518 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: a year, Come back next year. 519 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: Me Meanwhile, Kyrie Irving of the Dallas Mavericks, who of 520 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: course tore his ACL back in March, he told a 521 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: fan on a live stream to not hold your breath 522 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: when asked if he will be back before the playoffs 523 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: next season, And now you're gonna hear the comments from 524 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: Kyrie himself in a moment for context. This live stream 525 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: was actually done three weeks ago. However, it only apparently 526 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: came to light yesterday, which unfortunately intimates that mister Irving 527 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: might need more publicity for his various live streaming projects. 528 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: But here's what Kyrie had to say in his own words. 529 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: This is again from his live stream of about three 530 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: weeks ago. 531 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 5: Will you be back by playoffs? 532 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: Don't hold your breath on that. You know what I'm saying. 533 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that I won't be back. It's just 534 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 5: don't I don't want to make any predictions on when 535 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be back. I just want to be back 536 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty thousand percent better. So I'm taking 537 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 5: my time right now to really get healthy. I'm taking 538 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: my time to really get my body right, other parts 539 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 5: of courses of my body right, and really just enjoy 540 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 5: this this recovery process. Man, it's it's it's not pretty. Yes, 541 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 5: it is a beautiful struggle, but I go through kind 542 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 5: of the mental roller coaster ride of you know, of 543 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 5: every day just want to be back out there. 544 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: Though I actually yep, go ahead. I actually think it's 545 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: a reasonable response. It is. I mean, now, look, part 546 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: of it is when we look at Kyrie, you're like, oh, 547 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: ACL injury wasn't at the end of the year. Of 548 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: course we'll be back next year. I think that's a 549 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: reasonable expectation. One of the things that Kyrie's I sure know, 550 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure knows, is like he's had a lot of injuries. 551 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: So if it happens when you're twenty six and it's 552 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: your first injury, it sucks, it's hard, but your body 553 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: comes back quickly. When you've had toe surgery, ankle surgery, 554 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: multiple knee surgeries, then you have an ACL. It's a 555 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: little bit different. The other part too, it is like, 556 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: don't promise that way, you can just when you're right, 557 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: you're right, and you don't worry about the actual timing 558 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: of it. I actually think it's a very measured response. 559 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 1: He as he said, doesn't mean I won't be come back, 560 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: but I'm just not going to sit there and make 561 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 1: promises when just not the point yet where I can 562 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: tell you I'm closed from feeling like it'll happen. 563 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: That's well said, and I think that becomes apparent when 564 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: you hear the whole comment and not just well, you know, 565 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: don't hold your breath. 566 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: But that's what sucks about aggregators. Because I saw that 567 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: headline I think on Yahoo, I was like, huh, that's weird. 568 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: Then I listened to the entire comment. I was like, well, 569 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: it was a reasonable comment. But that's what sucks about media, 570 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: not you ilo, what sucks about like Yahoo and some 571 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: of these other They purport themselves as sports and writing 572 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: stories and taking quotes, but that one's taken out of context. 573 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: Proper context makes it a very reasonable statement. 574 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: On a completely unrelated story. Kyrie Irving's laugh creepier, non creepy. 575 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with dismissive, non creepy, dismissive, dismissive. Yeah, just. 576 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 3: Caught my fancy there all right Over the weekend, and 577 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: this is a sensitive topic for some of us around here. 578 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 3: Over the weekend, the Houston Astros swept their three game 579 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: series against the Los Angeles Dodgers, including one by an 580 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: eighteen to one score. Big deal, little deal or no deal. 581 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal. A bit really really 582 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: big deal the dominance over the weekend, especially when look 583 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: at what's happened with what happened with the Dodgers of 584 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: the weekend. I think that's a big deal. 585 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: Okay, very good. This is sort of a college sports 586 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: thing and something that you might be versed in, obviously. Uh, 587 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: just across the state where you played your college ball 588 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: from from Oklahoma State. Uh, Oklahoma State athletic director Joe Castiglione. 589 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: Is going to leave Oklahoma Oklahoma. 590 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to Yeah, no, I'm sorry Oklahoma as opposed 591 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: to where you were, Oklahoma State. He's going to leave 592 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: his full time role as athletic director. Here's a guy 593 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: who you know, might not be that familiar to most fans, 594 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 3: but Joe Castiglione has been there forever. He's going to 595 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: retire from his full time big deal, little deal or 596 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 3: no deal. 597 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. Jokes Joe c is. He may 598 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: be the longest tenured athletic director in the country. Obviously, 599 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: he's the one that brought Bob Stoops to normally won 600 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: national championship. It's big because one, he's so well respected. Two, 601 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: Brent Vettable has been hanging on by a thread and 602 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you don't win, you have a new 603 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: athletic director. That's not a good news. Now he's gonna 604 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: stay with the school but not be as active. My 605 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: guess is that means that Brent Vettables is in a 606 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: winner go home sort of year. 607 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: Final item on this edition of Big Deal, Little Deal 608 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: or No Deal? Longtime sports writer Christine Brennan writing a 609 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: new book about Caitlin Clark's rookie season, and the excerpts 610 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: that have been released so far come to a couple 611 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 3: of conclusions. One, she argues that the WNBA really wasn't 612 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 3: ready for the Caitlin Clark phenomenon, and also Clark being 613 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: left off the Olympic team was a great those postulates 614 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 3: big deal, little deal or no deal? 615 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, little deal? It it? You know who does this? 616 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: This is like I love Greene, super talented, but this 617 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: is like Mike Greenberg like talking about things as if 618 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: she's coming up with things that are new and man, 619 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: these are controversials like, yeah, everybody knows that the w 620 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: NBA wasn't ready for prime time. Not of course, duh, 621 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: We've all said it. And how can you leave her 622 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: up the Olympics when you were gonna win anyway, and 623 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: you need it, and it just grew the sport if 624 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: you had her. This is the Book was written by 625 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: Christine Brennan, but also co authored by Captain Obvious. 626 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: This Skame time on The Godlief Show. 627 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: Who said, Oh, that was a good line, Jase dou 628 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: that was a good line, was. 629 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 3: It not, Captain AUGI yeah, oh man, that thing was 630 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 3: a was a brick that hit like a concrete. 631 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: H my line, You're pretty good. Coming up on the 632 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: Doug Gotliep Show, will be Love Most from the weekend? 633 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: Will We Hate Most? On the Weekend? Love and Hate 634 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: is next in the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports radioh