1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEO, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Get 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to money Making a Conversation. I am 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: your host from Sean McDonald. It's time to stop reading 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: other people's success stories and I'm just gonna tell you 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: have to start writing your own. That's the only way 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: you can win now. You can be motivated by their 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: success when you read about their stories, and they can 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: offer you direction and to help you reach your goals. 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: But remember it's their story, it's their goals, it's their success. 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: You have to plan your own and it has to 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: be planning and achieved by your committed effort. The interviews 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I put in to you on my Money Making conversation 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: platform is celebrity, CEO, entrepreneurs, iny rescision in male female, transgender. 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: I try to walk through the whole process and let 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: everybody know that everybody is available to to share a 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: slights of how they are achieving success and nobody's unique 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: in it. But the only unique thing I always tell 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: people is how hard they work, and they said the 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: goal they see it through. My next guest is one 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: of those people. You know. She didn't let age stop her. 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: She had let being a gender stop her. She didn't 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: let being a single mom stop her. He next guests, 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Dr Geneva Williams. After a forty plus year career as 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: an order winning, innovative nonprofit leader, Dr Geneva Willis reinvented 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: herself as an author, international speaker, podcaster, entitle holding an 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: advocate for women to live, fit, fine, and a vibrant life. 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: She says as she went from her stellar career as 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: a president CEO, becoming a widow at the four decades 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: of marriage, still raising two millionnaires at home, to become 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: the oldest contestants to win to Miss Black, Fit and 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: Fine Patch, to be recognized as a leading Michigan businesswoman, 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: and going on to be the star in the very 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: first television commercial. She's on the show today. Please welcome 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations, Dr Geneva Williams. Did I get 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: everything right? Doc? Oh my goodness. I want you to 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: come right for me and introduce me everywhere I go. 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: How and you got something to say? Though? You have 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: something to say, You have a life to say. And 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk about your life because you know, 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: I always look at people your youth, we do, we 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: don't see uh, you know, you're eighteen nineteen. You tell 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: us used to mention worth. Forty six is so far off. 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: You can't even conceptualize what it feels like to be 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: forty or sixty or and you look around and you 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: see people who are forty and sixty and you go, 53 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 1: I never you might not even say how I'm gonna 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: walk or what I'm gonna do, because we don't think 55 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: about preparing for retirement. Now, let's talk about your early life. 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: You know, successful, married, happy, uh, two beautiful kids. How 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: was that life like for you? Oh? It was fabulous? Um, 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: you know I am. I have three children and three grandchildren, 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: so you know I I, you know, really was living 60 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: a fabulous life. I had the career where I didn't 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: think I had a job because I was doing what 62 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: I love doing, uh, running the United Way, working in nonprofits, 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: helping create change, raising millions of dollars for various community initiatives, 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and you know, had a real good, good marriage, um, 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: and things were going along for me great. I come 66 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: from a small town in New Jersey, and I grew 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: up in a community of adults. You know, ra Sean, 68 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, my sister, and I used to always think 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: that the adults in the community would go somewhere and 70 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: have a meeting on us, because they seemed to know 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: thing about us, and they gave us constant advice and 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: endless questions about how we were doing, and how are 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: our grades and how were we making it? And you know, 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: it was like this community consensus where everyone was interested 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: in our success. And I still today think even though 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: then I thought it was a big time conspiracy, but 77 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: what I know now is it was about adults in 78 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: a community caring. Until so much of my life's work 79 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: has been about trying to rebuild that community consensus that 80 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: many of us grew up in in black communities where 81 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: every adult, you know, it was a big Mama or 82 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: auntie or some Everyone cared about who we were and 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: what we would do. So that's the kind of environment 84 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: I grew up in and really shaped um my career, 85 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: what I got into. The influences that and my parents, 86 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: who were ordinary people, also were civil rights activists. Right now, 87 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. So that's that's certainty right there. 88 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: That's that's a certainty. You explain a very uh you 89 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the eight to five children, loving husband. Then the uncertainty 90 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: came into your life. Now, when uncertainty comes into my life, 91 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: that's one of your critical steps that you talk about 92 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: because a lot of people aren't ready for that uncertain 93 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: It can be getting fired. Uncertainty can be a relationship 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: suddenly Indie and you didn't expect it. A certainty can 95 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: be uh, financial loss. A certainty can be COVID nineteen. 96 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: That's a biging certainty. A lot of people dealing with 97 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: that's uncertainty. How you embrace it. The uncertainty in your 98 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: life was a passion of your husband. Correct. Yeah, And 99 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: and it happened at a time where I experiencing all 100 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: these ups and downs and differences in life because I 101 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: was in my fifties and sixties And there's something about 102 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: when you get to a half century, more than a 103 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: half century of living, you know, you experience all these 104 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: different changes, everything from the gray hairs to the your 105 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: body changing, to the changing in relationships and taking care 106 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: of aging parents and seeing children go out and do 107 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: their thing which you want them to. But it does 108 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: create these changes. And what was I going to do 109 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: for retirement? All these things were going when both my 110 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: parents and my husband got very sick and I went 111 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: into several years of caring for them, and then they 112 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: all passed pretty much during within months of each other. 113 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: So for the first time, Uh, I was devastated totally. 114 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: You know, I was just grieved out. There was just nothing. 115 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, these were people who I had never spent 116 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: a day in my life without, you know, I always 117 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: had them, So total uncertainty. Uh, dark days. Um, every day. 118 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: I was crying every day. I didn't know what I 119 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: was going to do. Um. And even though I had 120 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: been very successful in in my career and I had 121 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: a forty year marriage, a good marriage that was only 122 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: ended by the cancer that took my husband away, UM, 123 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: I was lost. I didn't know what to do. And 124 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: I was in my sixties and so it was like 125 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: I constantly said, well, my life's over. What am I 126 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: gonna do now? And ra Sean, it was one of 127 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: those times when one night I was looking through these 128 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: obituaries of the three most important people ever in my life. 129 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I was in my night nightly ritual 130 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: of you on my knees, often crying, you know, woe 131 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: is me? Um. I looked and saw that dash, you know, Sean, 132 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: that dash between the day you are born and the 133 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: day you die. And when I looked at that dash, 134 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know, that's what I remember about my 135 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: mom and my dad and my sweetheart, my husband. That's 136 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: what I remember. It's that dash. That's what life's about. 137 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: It's where the meaning takes place. And what was I 138 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: gonna do about my dash? Was I just ready to 139 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: give up? And that's really Rashan. As I began to 140 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: look at it and think about it, I slowly started 141 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: to get off my knees, to take a step out 142 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: and get back in the world because I found some meaning. 143 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: And that's when I began to discover what for me 144 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: where the secrets of um, you know, living a vibrant life. 145 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: Let let's talk about let's talk about that, that that 146 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: that old way, what is me? Lifestyle and mentality and 147 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: coming out of that the little the little engine that 148 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: could coming up that hill, you know and then going 149 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: over you know, because what happens is when you're that 150 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: old always mean you have a lot of tragedy, tragedy 151 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: and tragedy in your life. A lot of people don't 152 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: I talk to you. They know, they know they feel 153 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: nerves by telling you to suck it up or come 154 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: on down. You have a lot of life to give. 155 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: So you don't have a lot of people around you 156 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: that they can challenge you because they know you in 157 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: a state of sadness and they don't want to sound 158 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: like they they are uh selfish by telling you you 159 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: can you can move on? And so you saw the dash. 160 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: What were everybody else saying around your the family members, 161 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: your friends and all that good stuff? Yeah? Everyone, And 162 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: you know when you're in that state, everyone is so 163 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: supportive or they try to be right. You tell you 164 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: things like you know, you've got a lot of life 165 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: ahead of you, Uh move forward and you know get 166 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: over and even get over it or it's time to 167 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: get over it. And you know, none of that helped 168 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: me none of that. And you know, I don't believe 169 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: there's a timeline for grief, you know, I just really don't. 170 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: And I had to discover me for me, in myself. 171 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: And the first thing that in what I discovered for 172 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: a secret for me that I discovered was I had 173 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: to reconnect with my why, So my purpose, my raisin detra, 174 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: Why am I here? You know, not about my husband 175 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: and my parents, and my children, my grandchildren, all the 176 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: friends and family? Why me? Lord? Why me? You know, 177 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: what is it that you have for me? Because I 178 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: believe each of us has at least one unique gift 179 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: or talent and finding that gift or talent and understanding 180 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: your purpose. And as I began to reflect and really 181 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: go deep with Sean, I rediscovered my purpose. I refound 182 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: my why I'm living. And so that's one of the 183 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: secrets I think to life at any age, and that 184 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: is knowing your purpose, knowing why you here, Why God 185 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: put you here? What is it you supposed to do? 186 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that helps get me up every morning, 187 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: gets me excited and to think about, you know, I'm 188 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: fulfilling my meaning. And I rediscovered that, you know, God 189 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: put me on this earth to inspire and teach and 190 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: to help, particularly women over fifty who are in my 191 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: same age category, to UH rediscover themselves and figure out 192 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: their neck steps because we're not done yet. And so 193 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: rediscovering my why and my purpose really was the first 194 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: big secret that UH I discovered. Well, you know, I 195 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: want to go back on that saddness thing. I don't 196 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: think there's a timeline of sadness. You have to learn 197 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: how to just box it, put in a box and 198 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: from compartmentalize it because of the fact that you know, 199 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: I know when I when I think about death, I 200 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: think about my parents, I think about my sister. You know, 201 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: I might think about it a year from now. I 202 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: might think about it on their birthday. I might think 203 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: about it. So it's all right, Well we're talking about 204 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: is compartmentalizing it so it doesn't dominate your everyday life 205 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: moving forward, so it doesn't stop you from meeting people, 206 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: stop you from movie, stop you from getting the job, 207 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: stopping you from saying, you know something, I want to 208 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: be happy, hear me. I'll get that I want to 209 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: be happy, and so what happens is and that that's 210 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring Dr Geneva Williams on the show, 211 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: is that it's about you know, this is how I speak. 212 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, I speak this way and I'm not trying 213 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: to be younger than what I am. I'm just trying 214 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: to be Rashawn McDonald. I don't worry about another birthday. 215 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: I gotta have a birthday to accomplish my dreams. I 216 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: don't lock myself to a certain age. I want to 217 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: be thirty nine for the rest of my life. I 218 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: want to be fitting that. No, I want to be 219 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: whatever age God allows me to be on that year, 220 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: he says, my birthday because I got gold I gotta 221 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: put in place. And so when I saw a video 222 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: of you, I said, this is my girl. I gotta 223 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: bring home my show because she's not restricting the steps 224 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: of opportunity tied to the age that she's assigned to 225 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: that year. That's a beautiful part of your personality. Where 226 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: did that come from? You know, I don't I think 227 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: it came from my started with my parents because they 228 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: were activist way into the eighties and nineties. You know, 229 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: my I started writing my book with my dad when 230 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: he was and we were to publish it together. So, 231 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, I interviewed him about all the things he 232 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: went through, all his trials and tribulations, the historic uh 233 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: landmark civil rights case he won and took all the 234 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: way to the Supreme Court New Jersey and changed housing 235 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: discrimination laws of New Jersey forever. And we talked about 236 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: all of that. We did that together. Now he passed 237 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: before the book was published, but he did read the 238 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: final manuscript and said it was good. But that was 239 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: like nineties, and and my mom I think left in 240 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: her late eighties. And but they always but you know, Rashan, 241 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: it really wasn't about the chronological age. What it really 242 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: was was their mindset and and what they felt in 243 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: their heart and their purpose. Uh. And that's what I 244 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: discovered that it really is about my purpose and my 245 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: motivation and continuing to give, you know, the gifts, and 246 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: that compartmentalization you talk about, I think is right on 247 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: for me. My compartment is my heart. So I keep 248 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, those who have gone on um that you 249 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: know meant so much to me in my heart and 250 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: so they'll always be there. So I'm not trying to 251 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: get rid of them at all. For those they've got 252 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: to be in your heart. And you know what, Rashan, 253 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: we have to laugh about the good times. And one 254 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: of the things I do is I pull out the 255 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: albums all the time. I consider myself an amateur photographer, 256 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: so I have thousands of pictures. I ain't in none 257 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: of them, okay, because I'm always so busy taken over. 258 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: But I'll pull out my albums and I'll laugh. Sometimes 259 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: i'll cry, but I reflect and relive those good times, 260 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: those moments Rashan. And that's why I think it's important 261 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: to have those moments um to live because we all 262 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: are going to get to here one day, Okay what 263 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: we do while we're here. 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That's O T T E 298 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: R dot Ai. My friend, you're not hitting, You're not 299 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: you're not swinging. The missing on another of this interview 300 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: right now got me pomped up as usual because when 301 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: from a from a gender standpoint, I'm a man your woman, 302 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: and uh, they have different rules in the play, and 303 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: they have different rules and play for African Americans, okay, 304 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: and so leadership, you know, you're an attractive woman. Some 305 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: people can diminish your success because you're attracted, you know. 306 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: And then that's a sad part about sexism. But in 307 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: the end, if you have somebody who's fifty, they confused, 308 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: They you know that, don't they look in the mirror. 309 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: They don't like the way they're seeing in the mirror. 310 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: They don't like the people around them. What advice do 311 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: you get for people who are stuck Let's use the 312 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: word stuck, because there a lot of people listen to 313 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: this interview are stuck. We want to get them unstuck. No, 314 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. We are not on the 315 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: way you pull yourself from an unstuck position. You have 316 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: to want to make change. Exactly. If you don't want 317 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: to make change, you think this is the lottery. I'm sorry, 318 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: but you gotta want to make change. I do want 319 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: to set that little that little qualified before you get started. 320 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and you have to put sweat equity 321 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: into what it is you want to You got to 322 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: do that, okay. You know. One of the things that 323 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: I say the folks in terms of the secrets that 324 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: I found, is to make a plan. You gotta have 325 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: a game plan. What is it you're gonna do with 326 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: your life? You know? So you know, let's assume you 327 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: you you you know what your purpose is, You've discovered 328 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: your why, you understand why you're here, what it is 329 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: you want to do, what your talents are. Okay, then 330 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with it? So that's making a plan, 331 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, whether you think it in your head or 332 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: write it down. Though writing it down, you know, writing 333 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: it down helps you see it and achieve it better. 334 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: That's what all the research says. But I understand if 335 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: you just want to keep it in your head and 336 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: think about it. But the best thing to do is 337 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: figure out what your goals are, what it is. You know, 338 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: you've got this vision of your life that you want 339 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: to be, which is first step, figure out what it 340 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: is you want your life to be, and then decide, well, 341 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: how am I going to get there? So those are 342 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: your goals, and then how am I going to reach 343 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: those goals? That's your action steps, and then what am 344 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: I gonna do it? That's your timeline. Well, when you 345 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: finish putting together a vision of goals, some action steps 346 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: and a timeline, you got yourself a plan and then 347 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: do it. And so one of the things that I 348 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: found is you gotta have a plan. And it's your plan. 349 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: It's not your uncle's or your aunts or your scouse is. 350 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: It's your plan, and come on, let's do it. Get 351 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: that game plan together. Uh, you know, male, female, black, white, 352 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: have a game plan and that you know, and it's 353 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: your plan, and be willing to switch it up or 354 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: change it if you need to. You know, if people 355 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: say to me, um, sometimes well I don't know what 356 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: to do. You know, I don't feel I'm I'm really 357 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: done anything. I'm stuck, you know that that kind of thing. 358 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: One of the tips I give folk when they feel 359 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: that way is to, uh, make a list of your accomplishments. Rashan. 360 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, if you living and 361 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: breathing and if you're listening to us, have this conversation. 362 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: In your life, you've accomplished something, probably a whole lot 363 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: of somethings, and so one of the things, pull out 364 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: that piece of paper and write down all of the 365 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: things you've all your successes, what have you done. When 366 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: you sit back, I'm guaranteed you sit back and look 367 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: at that list, you're gonna say, well, you know that's 368 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: what you're saying. You know what I'm saying. Here's something 369 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: that absolutely and always saying. It's like in my life, 370 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of people have qualifiers on success, 371 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, they they look at Lebron James and that 372 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: might be successful to them. And you have to look 373 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: at your competition. I mean, when I was building Steve 374 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Harvey's or social media, I put this competition that was 375 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: that was close to him. I didn't go way up there, 376 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: there was way away. I started close to him and 377 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: started setting his goals in social media and we started 378 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: passing them as we went along the way. Now if 379 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: I just said this goal four or five million away 380 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: instead of fifty thousand away, then guess what it would 381 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: look seem insurmountable. And so when you start talking about goals, 382 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: setting said goals that are reachable. Say, I always talked 383 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: about naty day goals. I don't talk about years where 384 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, that's why a lot of people don't go 385 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: to college because they see here here four years. It 386 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: just knocks him out on the four years. Uh, I 387 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: can't contain committed something like four years. That's why people 388 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: go to trade schools. And I'm not knocking that because 389 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: they see a short to turn turn around. But always know, 390 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: set a goal that you feel comfortable with and reaching. 391 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: And that's what she's saying about planning a lot of 392 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: people planning success, but they don't plan it with a goal, 393 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: a reachable goal. And know that as you always treated 394 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: like a steps on the ladder, Each step gets you hire, 395 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: each steps gets you high. You don't want to jump 396 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: steps on the ladder. You might fall off exactly exactly. 397 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: And so that's what you know, be have realistic goals right, 398 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: goals that make sense that you can touch and reach, 399 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: and goals that you know that you've reached. Success when 400 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: you've completed that. Sometimes we set these vague goals and 401 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: we don't really even know when we reached them. And 402 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: so I always tell folks when you're setting goals, um, 403 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: speaking in the present and the now and speaking in 404 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: positive terms, like you know, um, you know, I want 405 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: to lose fifty pounds. Okay, that's too vague. It really 406 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: doesn't say much, doesn't talk about when or what have you. 407 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: But you can say, Brad said, stated in the positive terms. 408 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: I am my ideal weight. You know it's a positive thing. 409 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: So you've already put yourself in that future self that 410 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: you want to be and you see yourself that way. 411 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Oh I gotta quit smoking. No, I'm a non smoker. 412 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: So you claim it and say it for yourself and 413 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: then begin to write down the action steps that will 414 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: make that statement on a non smoker true. Absolutely when 415 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: I when I think about it, when people, especially on 416 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: weight laws, I always tell people just just pickle. I 417 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: want to lose a pound a Week's like, see if 418 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: you lose the powder week at the end of you 419 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: lost fifty pounds, and so what if you say I 420 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: want to lose fifty powers, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna 421 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: do that, but just to powder powder week in your mind. 422 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about, a mindset. We're talking about 423 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: how to relax your way into success. We're talking about 424 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: not being overwhelmed by setting goals and planning things that 425 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: feel unreachable because it came out of your mouth, which 426 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: shan is that Another thing that I've learned through the years, 427 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: and that is that one of the ways to continually 428 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: be able to create possibilities and live a vibrant life 429 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: at any age is to practice self care. Yes, you know, 430 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: too often, particularly for women, Um, we get so busy 431 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: in life, trying to be successful, trying to you know, 432 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: climb to the top all of the things that we 433 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: forget to take care of ourselves and and and not. 434 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about, you know, making sure you 435 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: get a massage every week, though that's good, now, now 436 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: that that'd be good. Okay, that's if you can afford it, 437 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: that's great. But you know, self care is about so 438 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: many different aspects of your life. It deals with your 439 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: social care, your physical care, your psychological care, your mental, 440 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: your emotional even learning how to say no is a 441 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: good way to practice self care, so that in fact, 442 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: you're putting your needs your priorities first. So practicing uh, 443 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: taking care of yourself, loving yourself the way that you should, 444 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: eliminating the negative self talk. You know, we be you 445 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: know talk, all these things kind of run around in 446 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: our mind about what we can't do, these limiting behaviors. 447 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: You know, what we can't what we can't say, what 448 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: we can't wear, what we shouldn't do, et cetera. By 449 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: the time we finished, you'll be exhausted, you know. So 450 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: we need to reduce or eliminate the negative self talk. 451 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: And that's part of taking care of yourself, that self care, 452 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: that self love. That particularly during these times as times 453 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: as tough as we're in pandemic, as you know, we're 454 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: facing uncertainty. UM an uncertainty that is going to the 455 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: pandemic is going to end where it will move into 456 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: something different, but uncertainty it's going to be with us always. 457 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: You know, life is about ups and downs, that's what 458 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: life is. And so learning how to embrace uncertainty, become 459 00:27:52,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: a master of UM, having yourself developed, learn the tricks 460 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: and tips to decrease worry and stress and focus on 461 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: your goals. You know, those are things that we should develop. 462 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: We should become masters of that pandemic or not, because 463 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: it will always be something that's in our lives that 464 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: we're not going to be a hundred percent sure of. 465 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: So hey, let's become those masters of being the best 466 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 1: that we can be, being the most vibrant that we 467 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: can be at any age. Thank you. She's a late 468 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: she's a later life beautiful queen. I would say beautiful queen. 469 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: I am say. I'm not gonna say beauty queen. Beautiful queen. 470 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: She's a queen. She's an entrepreneur, online course creator. You know, 471 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: the thing I love about you is that you don't 472 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: let age stop you. And that's what I'm preaching now. 473 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm preaching that for even somebody twenty years old, don't 474 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: let ah stop you. Don't tell us somebody you're too 475 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: young to accomplish that thirty years old, forty years old, fifty, 476 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: and when you hit fifty and sixty, please stop it 477 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: by saying that you can accomplish your dreams because you're 478 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: too old. As a message that she delivers on a 479 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: daily basis. Dr Geneva Williams and Dr Geneva Williams don't 480 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on money making conversation 481 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: on that one request. Will you come back? Oh, I'd 482 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: love to love you know. One of the things that 483 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: I said is I, um, you know, celebrated my seventieth birthday. 484 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: Was I'm going to be doing only those things that 485 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: give me joy. Having a conversation with you and all 486 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: that you do to help other people brings me great joy. 487 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: So it would be my pleasure and continue the conversation. 488 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: We're gon we're gonna do this annually. Okay, I'm gonna 489 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: locked this day down because because my birthday is in 490 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: fabru Wary, so you're gonna be one of my paper 491 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: my my birthday birthday. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. 492 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. So my den, we're gonna 493 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: stay in touch. If you ever having an event coming 494 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: up that you need to get promoted, you'd always count 495 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: on me, even in Michigan or any state area. You 496 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: gotta uh you know seminarll that you're doing. Please come 497 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: to me, Thank you, thank you, thank you. In fact, 498 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: I've got one coming up for a a r P. 499 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: They've asked me to help their members learn how to 500 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: do their create their personal action plan for one. So 501 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: I'll be doing that. It'll be a virtual event, and 502 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: I hope you can be a part of it. I will. 503 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm there. Come on, I'm there for you, doc. So 504 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: let's make it happy. So I want to thank you 505 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: a game for coming on Money Making Conversations. Okay, thank you. 506 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more money make Conversation interviews, 507 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. 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