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Speaker 1: Oh righty, then we've reached the middle of the week.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. One Bills Live is

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Speaker 1: the show. And man, we touched on Steve the AFC

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Speaker 1: As the World Turns for the afcast teams not named

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo, it is quarterback stuff again. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers hometown team growing up. Now, I know when

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Speaker 1: We're supposed to say it makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the nature of the cheating? What are we talking about

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Speaker 1: in the details on that. I'm sure we'll come out

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Speaker 1: at some point, but what it is that's not good.

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Speaker 1: The GM was what's suspended by the league for six

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Speaker 1: months five weeks five weeks, so he was suspended for

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Speaker 1: a month in a week, and during that month in

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Speaker 1: a week, had contact with the guys he worked with

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Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: often he communicated, but they communicated nefariously. But what did

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Speaker 1: they do to cheat? Is the question? That's it. That's

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Speaker 1: what they did. It sounds like, yeah, but what is

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Speaker 1: the what is the actual substance of the cheating? But

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Speaker 1: he's not allowed to do any bits that's a violation.

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Speaker 1: That's not cheating. Well that's what they're Are they cheating

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Speaker 1: the game? Like, that's what I want to know, Like,

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Speaker 1: are you cheating the game like Stephen Ross allegedly was

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Speaker 1: when he was throwing games for money to pay coaches

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Speaker 1: to throw games? Like is it that? That doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: like that's what this is. This sounds like they were

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Speaker 1: letting the GM be the GM when he was suspended

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Speaker 1: for five weeks. That's what it sounds like to scandal.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time getting my dander up if

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Speaker 1: that's what it is. So you let the GMB the

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Speaker 1: GM even though he wasn't supposed to be at work

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Speaker 1: for five weeks? All right? Well, I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time breaking a sweat over that. I know that. You know,

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00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: come on, bro, it might have been during the season.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Um, I can't even remember when it was,

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Speaker 1: but wow, to me that But now the thing about that,

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Speaker 1: the the other stuff, the the other allegations he had,

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Speaker 1: not just the cheating, but the other accusations in the

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Speaker 1: in the charge discrimination, discrimination, harassment, duct, that grossmist all

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Speaker 1: that stuff that doesn't fly, that shouldn't fly. But the

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Speaker 1: gross misconduct. I mean, the guy was suspended because he

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Speaker 1: was driving while he was absolutely intoxicated. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how he kept his job period, and it was like

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Speaker 1: a two time offender. Yeah. Um, that's more egregious to

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Speaker 1: me than having him do the job while he's suspended

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Speaker 1: for that he shouldn't have been a suspension should have been. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so but if you're talking about discrimination and harassment

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Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff, yeah you can't. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's more egregious than having the guy take phone calls

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Speaker 1: about while he's out of the office. It would be

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Speaker 1: very interesting to see how the league chooses to handle this,

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Speaker 1: my guess is behind closed doors and out of the

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Speaker 1: public eye as best as possible. But that is not

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Speaker 1: a good look at all. It's probably helpful that that

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Speaker 1: GM no longer works there, neither does Terry McDonough because

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Speaker 1: you have a new GM and a new head coach

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Speaker 1: and that whole thing. But that must have been a

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Speaker 1: messy messy. Yeah, that's doesn't sound like anything but a

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Speaker 1: toxic work environment to me, which probably is why they

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Speaker 1: look like they do on the field. That's some measure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that is around the NFL, presented by Collid to Health.

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Speaker 1: And we have to take a break here. Before we do, though,

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Speaker 1: we want to let you know the topic of the

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Speaker 1: day for you to discuss what needs to happen for

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Speaker 1: the Bills to take the best player available in this

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Speaker 1: year's draft. I think there are a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that say there are glaring needs for this football team

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Speaker 1: even now on the roster. What has to happen in

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Speaker 1: your mind to be comfortable with the Bills going with

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Speaker 1: their best player available approach when the draft opens up

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Speaker 1: on April twenty seven, eight three five fifty number two

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Speaker 1: presented by a Lot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, with you here on this Wednesday, what has

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Speaker 1: quickly become a rainy Wednesday here in Western New York

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Speaker 1: has some major tea storms coming through, so be on

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Speaker 1: the lookout for those thunder and lightning we already heard

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Speaker 1: around here. Well, we're sitting here in the studio, but

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Speaker 1: we're just talking about what needs to happen for the

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Speaker 1: Bills to take the best player available in this year's

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. So you let us know what that has

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Speaker 1: to be so the Bills can use their best player

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Speaker 1: available approach in the draft. We always hear Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: say how they want to fill as many holes as

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Speaker 1: possible so they don't feel compelled to address need when

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Speaker 1: they're on the clock. Now that also, that can happen

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Speaker 1: sometimes as the value is right, as we saw last

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Speaker 1: year when they traded up two spots and took Kaye

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Speaker 1: Elam when they sorely needed a cornerback. So there is

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Speaker 1: a time when value can meet need. But more often

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Speaker 1: than not, as many variables as there are in the draft,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. I wonder if you do you trade

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Speaker 1: up when you know there's a guy you really need

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Speaker 1: and he's and he's gonna be gone and there's a

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Speaker 1: drop off after him. Is that when you trade up

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Speaker 1: a couple spots to make sure you don't get caught

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Speaker 1: like that. The problem with doing that is the is

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Speaker 1: a guy like Christian Benford, right, where all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you did, and then you get a guy that

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Speaker 1: really actually can play and you get him like five

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Speaker 1: rounds later. Yeah, but those I would think more often

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Speaker 1: than not, those are few and far between, right, Like

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Speaker 1: it can happen. Sure, how often does it happen? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'd have to kind of do some research

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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, I mean because for everything you say,

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Speaker 1: every axiom you come up with that relates to the

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Speaker 1: NFL draft, there's like always more than a handful of exceptions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: teams that you know didn't like Tom Brady's an exception.

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Speaker 1: You know, all these guys. Steph dig is an exception.

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Speaker 1: He's a fourth rounder, fifth rounder, fifth rounder. I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, Matt Milano, same thing. Then you trade up

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Speaker 1: to get a guy like well, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: we know the numbers say that there are more undrafted

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Speaker 1: players in the NFL than first round draft picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they just they helped fill out rosters, not as

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Speaker 1: many undrafted guys in the Hall of Fame, though, that

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Speaker 1: is true. So you know, let's go to the phones

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Speaker 1: and see what you think at eighth three, five fifty one,

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Speaker 1: eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty then number to

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Speaker 1: get on board. What needs to happen for the Bills

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Speaker 1: to take the best player available in this year's NFL

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Speaker 1: draft and use the approach that has worked well for

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Speaker 1: Brandon being thus far. We go to Patrick and Buffalo

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Speaker 1: leading us off today. What do you have for is Patrick? Hello, guys, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not so concerned about the draft, which most concerned

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Speaker 1: in the Buffalo. I honestly believe in a lot of

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Speaker 1: people with me to get to the super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: win it. Josh Allen has to call the plays everybody

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo would love to see if he'd be more

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Speaker 1: dang which I never each got to feel like, no

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Speaker 1: tomorrow out there no offensive Dorsey, But I don't want

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Speaker 1: to see a third and blong first down, next play,

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Speaker 1: hands up off the middle for a two yard loss.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna make it. He can he can call

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Speaker 1: the place for the backups. I mean, this guy has

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00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: done everything they've asked of him. He's a one man, Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: If you want to get to the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: win it, I don't see a downside to that. Try

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Speaker 1: and make that happen trying to do have him call

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Speaker 1: excuse me, have him call the place. I don't see

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Speaker 1: a downside. Let you guys talk it over. And I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to put that in. Okay, all right, thanks Patrick.

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Speaker 1: I played with a guy who called his own plays.

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Speaker 1: He did a great job. He never we never won

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Speaker 1: one either. I don't. I'm sorry, Patrick. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I can get behind that the bill and you

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Speaker 1: can always say, hey, they came up short. I get

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Speaker 1: all that they didn't do it, but this is a

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Speaker 1: team that scored more points than thirty teams in the

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Speaker 1: league last year and were they were by all Okay,

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Speaker 1: they were a juggernaut, and for a variety of reasons

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Speaker 1: that I don't think had anything to do with who

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Speaker 1: was calling the plays, came up short. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know that you can point to the offense last year

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Speaker 1: and say that was you know, Josh Allen call. Not

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Speaker 1: calling the plays was the reason they didn't go to

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Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl. I've said it before, I'll

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Speaker 1: say it again. The reason they didn't get to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and win is because they didn't play well

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Speaker 1: on the last, the last day of the year. They

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Speaker 1: didn't play well against Cincinnati. You gotta play good on

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Speaker 1: that day. It's the same reason the thirteen second game

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Speaker 1: was so enticing, because they did play well on that

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Speaker 1: they still ended up and losing it with you know,

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Speaker 1: three mistakes in a row to follow the up to

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Speaker 1: follow up, same thing. They didn't play well enough in

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game in twenty twenty and the Chiefs did.

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Speaker 1: You gotta just there good enough to go to and

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl right now with the roster they

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Speaker 1: had last year without any changes, but you got to

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Speaker 1: play well on that day. Now they're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: whole new roster. You know, a lot of new guys

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Speaker 1: on this roster. They it happens every year to every team.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be good enough again this year in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: to go to and win it. But you gotta play

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Speaker 1: well on the days. You have to play well. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Josh Allen call in his own

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Speaker 1: plays is the thing that will get him over the top. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: every once in a while you think maybe he's got

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Speaker 1: But with the offenses as complex and as wide ranging

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Speaker 1: as they are in the NFL to day, it's hard

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Speaker 1: for a guy to keep all of that. That's the

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Speaker 1: reason those guys have a call Sheet's think about it.

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Speaker 1: They invented everything on that sheet, or copied it from

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Speaker 1: somebody who they really liked. They wrote it. They formulated

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Speaker 1: this sheet that's got all those They got hundreds of

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Speaker 1: plays on it, they got all they wrote it all

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Speaker 1: on there, they got it all printed. They're the ones

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Speaker 1: who installed it. They're the ones who taught their players

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Speaker 1: how to do it. They're the ones who are have

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Speaker 1: a plan for whatever game they're in, and even they

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Speaker 1: need a sheet in front of them to keep track

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Speaker 1: of it. And Josh has a wristband. Josh, you got

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Speaker 1: a wristband, and he's gonna he's gonna flip through whatever role. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a smart guy. But man, everybody I'm in that

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Speaker 1: building is a smart guy. Ken Dorsey's a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: You gotta it's hard to do. Here's the other element

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Speaker 1: in terms of things being different from when you guys

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Speaker 1: were playing and when Josh is playing now Josh is

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Speaker 1: already calling place. There are so many RPOs right built

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Speaker 1: into the offense, which is a run pass option play

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Speaker 1: or if you want to call it, a pro pass

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Speaker 1: run option, which is starting to happen now. Josh has

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Speaker 1: to make a conscious decision on all of those play calls.

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Speaker 1: Are we sticking with the run or am I pulling

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Speaker 1: it out of my running backs bread basket and I'm

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Speaker 1: throwing the ball? So he's making a conscious play calling

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Speaker 1: decision probably seventy percent of the time. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to pretend to know off the top of my head

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Speaker 1: what the percentage of RPOs within the scope of the

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Speaker 1: offense was, but they ran a lot of them, and

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Speaker 1: Josh has to make a decision in a split second

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Speaker 1: about what play they are running, the run or the pass.

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Speaker 1: So in a way, he's already doing that in many instances. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand where you're coming from. You think

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Speaker 1: everybody would love it. I respectfully disagree. I don't think

637
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Speaker 1: everybody would love it. And what is the prevailing opinion

638
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: of most Bills fans. Josh has to do everything now

639
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: you want him to call the plays too, That's a

640
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: good point. I mean, how much more you want to

641
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: give him. So I think, I think I understand where

642
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: you're coming from, Patrick, but I just think it's a

643
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: little a little misguided, and he already has play calling

644
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: decisions to make it an Yeah, that's true. A lot

645
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: of the plays within the scope of this offense when

646
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: you give him. If you gave Josh the ability to

647
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: call his own plays and want him to call the

648
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: whole game, you would start having the inability to run

649
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: a full offense and make, you know, adjustments on the

650
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: fly as well as they do when back when you know,

651
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: I hate it, back in the nineties, when Jim Kelly

652
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: was calling his own plays, I'll be honest with you,

653
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: they ran like maybe ten different plays, and that means

654
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen anymore. Maybe maybe not ten. Maybe you could,

655
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: you could construe it and say it was twenty, but

656
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: you run the same ten plays to one side and

657
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: then flip the field and do it the other direction.

658
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: So right and left, if that's two different plays, the

659
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: same play right and the same play left. We ran

660
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: a maximum of twenty different plays, ten different plays we

661
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: had to run, and for a variety of reasons, mostly

662
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: because we had five Hall of fame guys on that offense,

663
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: or at least Hall of Fame caliber players on that offense.

664
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Speaker 1: You could dick get away with it because you had

665
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: you had a couple of Hall of Fame guys, quality

666
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: guys on the offensive line. You had a Hall of

667
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: Fame quarterback, running back, and two whiteouts. They're all the

668
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: four of them are in the Hall of Fame. So yeah,

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00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: it all sounds well and good, and it works when

670
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: you got guys like that. But offenses in the NFL today,

671
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: because of the complexity of the defenses they face, have

672
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: to be able to change, like like philosophies between series.

673
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: So you go from being a four wide out, one

674
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: back team. The next series you come out and you're

675
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: three wide out, tight end and a full back team

676
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, a wingback. So you just got to be

677
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: able to do that and to expect to quarterback to

678
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: keep track of all that and have a menu have

679
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: played it within each of those philosophies. It's it's way

680
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: too much to ask. Now, in Brownie's right, everybody already

681
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: complains that Josh has to do more than his share.

682
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: You're asking all your I think you're asking almost the impossible.

683
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: You're putting a mountainous load on him on top of

684
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: that play having in today's NFL. We have to take

685
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: a break here. When we come back, more of your

686
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: phone call, So stay where you are if you're holding it.

687
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: Eight O three five fifty as we talk about what

688
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: needs to happen for the Bills to take the best

689
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: player available in this year's draft, either to their roster

690
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: or in front of them at pick twenty seven. We're

691
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: back with more here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned,

692
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: all right, So we're talking about what has to happen

693
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Speaker 1: to allow the Bills to go best player available in

694
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: this year's draft, either in front of them in the

695
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: twenty six picks that precede them, or to their own roster.

696
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 1: Eight three five fifty the number to get on board.

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00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: We go back to the phones and to Mark in

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00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Yeah for his Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen. It's

699
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: a better class than last year, only in pretty much

700
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: the wide receivers last year, where Trump this one by

701
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: by a mile. Everywhere else it pretty much evens out.

702
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: But the thing that's going to help the Bills expotentially more,

703
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: maybe they don't have to do what trade was a

704
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: two spots up last year twenty five to twenty three.

705
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: There's potentially potentially now with Hooker getting a lot of

706
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: buzz five quarterbacks instead of just one at pick eighteen

707
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: was pick it. So that's going to definitely help drive

708
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: guys down to the Bills. And then you throw in

709
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: a running back who's probably going to go before the

710
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: Bills pick. That makes potentially six guys. That's a significant amount. Yeah, no, yeah,

711
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: that's hard to argue. And you know there's reason to

712
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: believe that. You know, even picking that low at twenty seven,

713
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: and thanks to the call mark, even pick that low

714
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, the Bills could have a look at

715
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: potentially one of the top three receivers in the draft.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a look at twenty guys. You're gonna

717
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: probably see have a look at probably the best tight

718
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: end in the draft is probably still gonna be on

719
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: the board. Best mind backer in the draft, he'll still

720
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: be on the board, and you might be able to

721
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: get one of the top five offensive tackles in the class.

722
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: Five quarterbacks are going and five pass rushers are going.

723
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: I mean there's gonna be five pass rushers off the board.

724
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: We know that there's gonna be at least one defensive tackle,

725
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: and there's probably gonna be three or four corners, So

726
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: you can very quickly get to twenty players. Yeah, and

727
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: then it's a crapshoot the rest of the way and

728
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: you just kind of hold your breath until twenty seven. Right,

729
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: But that's I mean, conceivably four the first five are

730
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna go quarterback. Maybe it could happen. Arizona's not going to, No,

731
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: but Carolina Houston absolutely are going to Indianapolis, absolutely is

732
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: going to and Seattle. You can make a case for

733
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: him doing that. But then you start getting into what's next.

734
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Speaker 1: You know, guys like Jalen Carter, the edge rushers are

735
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: gonna go. But you're not gonna have like four of

736
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: those go in the top ten. No, but you'll have

737
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: four or five go before you get to the bills.

738
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Speaker 1: Then you got offensive lineman. You're gonna have three or

739
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: four of those. Okay, centers, So three or four offensive linemen,

740
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: three or four defensive linemen. That gives you like seven

741
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: or eight plus the four quarterbacks, that's eleven. That's nine

742
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: more guys. Four corners, No, No, that's that's eighteen more

743
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: guys you gotta get to That's a lot, it is.

744
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: That's a lot, particularly when you get down out of

745
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: the top ten and you got these teams that are

746
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: sitting there going plus teams like the Jets and ceas

747
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: at Seattle who have two first round picks. Philadelphia has

748
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: to Philly's got two. Um, you know, tight end becomes

749
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: a thing. You're right, there's just no way to know

750
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: that all this. It's a long way to go. It's

751
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: a long way to go. You're right, though, the more

752
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: guys that are taking, like, yeah, Hendon Hooker becomes the

753
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: first round pick, benefit to the Bills, it's in front

754
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: of them. That's right, that's that's true. That knocks one

755
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: further guy down. But then you run into the thing like,

756
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do if a guy at a

757
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: position we never thought we needed or draft with draft

758
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: is available and he is an absolute stone cold killer,

759
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 1: do you take him? You gotta take him. You gotta

760
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: take Jalen Carter if he falls to twenty seven, right,

761
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: you gotta take you know, you gotta take you know,

762
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 1: a corner, Yeah, you gotta take those. Yeah, running back,

763
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, one of the who's it gonna be you know,

764
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: certainly one of the tight ends. Yeah, you can make

765
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: a case those guys all day. Offensive lineman, sure, okay,

766
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: But once you get out of those first couple, a

767
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are you know, it levels out

768
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: for every player, every position. It's like, who do you want?

769
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: Because you got about nine guys that you could make

770
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: a case for. Indeed, let's check the phones again and

771
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: go to John in Buffalo. Here, what do you got

772
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: for us? John? You're on one Bill's Live. I don't

773
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: know you got me, Chris, Yeah, we got you. Go ahead, Well,

774
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: my name's that John. It's Tom. Okay, they told me

775
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: it was John, so forgive me time they write it down. Sorry, Tom,

776
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: go ahead. Time from the west side. Hey, guys, I

777
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying the waller. Yeah, it's a real pictice

778
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, we just had a thunderstorm rolled through here. Anyway,

779
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: I think they ought to sign a free agent linebacker

780
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: because that way it opens up the whole board for us.

781
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: We honestly pick the best player available. I don't want

782
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: a running back I would run. I have a wide receiver,

783
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: or a cornerback or even a tight end. Yeah, yeah,

784
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: you know it is the most glaring whole time. There's

785
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: no question about it. And thanks for the call. Um,

786
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: we're up against the break here. Yeah, you sign a

787
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: veteran linebacker on a one year deal that is capable

788
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: of starting. Now you've just completely opened all options to

789
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: yourself at twenty seven where you don't have a glaring

790
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: need staring at you in the face. Now, look, if

791
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: they get to twenty seven and the value is not

792
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: right a linebacker, that doesn't mean that Brandon Bean's picking

793
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: a linebacker. But it'll still be sitting there in the

794
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: back of his head, like at some point here, I

795
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: gotta get one right. So if you eliminate that, you're

796
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: you're in good shape. Yeah, And I'm kind of with him.

797
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm really not an interested in draft in

798
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: a running back. Um. Yeah. But and the thing that

799
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me though, he said running back, tight end,

800
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: or wide receiver. He would Um, he's thinking offense. I

801
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: think I'm I'm still in the offensive he said, corner too. Yeah,

802
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm still in the offensive side of the ball. I

803
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: think this is a team that is still in an

804
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: arms race. And if you want to help your team win,

805
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: take a little bit off the quarterback. Give him some

806
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: more options, because Josh is first and foremost a playmaker.

807
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: Give him some guys that can go out there and

808
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: create like he can. You know, they can get open

809
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: and give him an option to get rid of the football.

810
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm today, I'm in that camp. I want

811
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: give me more firepower, you know. I'm I'm kind of

812
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: ready to go that route. I'm in the arms race,

813
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I guess, Oh, I am too.

814
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: I would lean offense there as well. And I'm talking

815
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: about weapons, not offensive lineman this time. I mean I'm oh, oh, okay,

816
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean you can get offensive lineman. Okay, I get it,

817
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: But you were what happened. It starts in the trenches.

818
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. Man. If they take one, I'll

819
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: be very happy with that. But I'm I'm still saying

820
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: stay on the offensive side of the bowl. But today

821
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: I'd rather have I don't know, one of the receivers

822
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: or something. Okay, Steve's preference has changed with the weather apparently,

823
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: wait stormy out. We have to take a break. When

824
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: we come back our number two. We will be joined

825
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: by Yahoo Sports NFL fantasy writer and analyst Matt Harmon

826
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: also the creator of the Reception Perception wide receiver evaluation method.

827
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about that when we return here

828
00:49:40,320 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned these One Bill's Live

829
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Speaker 1: presented by call light a Health. All right, here we

830
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: are in our number two Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

831
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Speaker 1: you and please to be joined now an hour number

832
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Speaker 1: two on a Wednesday by Yeah who sports NFL analyst

833
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon here on the show going to help us

834
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: with some draft profiles that he's been dropping over there,

835
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: and we do have to get into it with him

836
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: about his whole thing on receivers, which is pretty interesting.

837
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Steve and I want to get the name of this

838
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: thing right, the reception perception or evaluation of wide receivers.

839
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Talk to us Matt if you could, and thanks for

840
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: joining us about the genesis of this idea and what

841
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: it actually spells out as far as the receiver class

842
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: is concerned. Well, hey, I really appreciate you guys have

843
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: me and Yeah, absolutely love to get into it. So

844
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: Reception Perception was the series that and methodology that I

845
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: came up with to evaluate the wide receiver position. I

846
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: came up with this about twenty thirteen was when I

847
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: really started doing the underlying work and then eventually debuted

848
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: to the public in two fourteen. So I have full

849
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: season data from the NFL from twenty and fourteen to

850
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: this current season, which I'm still kind of in progress

851
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: right now charting out. So basically what I do is

852
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: over an eight game sample for NFL players and college players,

853
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: because that was where I saw that the data would

854
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: sort of normalize to reflect a full season's result. I

855
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: go in and I chart every single route that they

856
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: run in that segment of games where they line up,

857
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: which I think is super important. Are we talking about

858
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: an ex receiver or a flank or a slot, because

859
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know this, like a wide receiver

860
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: is not a wide receiver. It is not a wide receiver.

861
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: There's so much variance within the position. So I'm really

862
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: trying to not just quantify route running and put like

863
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: a percentage behind how often these guys are able to

864
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: get open and get separation against man zone press coverage,

865
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: but also within each individual route type and really trying

866
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: to paint a full picture of where a wide receiver

867
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: excels within each individual NFL offense, where they excel on

868
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: the field and what type of roles we can't expect

869
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: them to play, which I think is obviously really interesting

870
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills this offseason. But also this draft

871
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: class as a whole, I know, is a bit of

872
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: a different wide receiver class and what we've seen the

873
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Yeah, the wide receiver class over

874
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: the last four or five years has been it's been

875
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: one great class after these big, alpha male guys coming

876
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: out that can dominate, be the absolute number one receiver.

877
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: This class, however, seems a little different than that. You

878
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: got a bunch of guys that are under six foot,

879
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: under one hundred and ninety pounds. What differentiates these guys

880
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: within that class. Yeah, So this is something I'm working

881
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: on for reception perception right now is a prospect ranking

882
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: of the last three classes combined, so twenty twenty one

883
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty three, which I think helps people sort

884
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: of put into a picture where these guys kind of

885
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: rank within the position, because you're right, the last few

886
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: classes just I mean stud after stud after stud and

887
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: it hasn't always been in that typical big X receiver package.

888
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Davante Smith, I think is kind of gaining

889
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: ground in terms of being a legit number one receiver himself,

890
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: and he's i mean a completely different package and even

891
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: his own teammate AJ Brown. So I think it's helpful

892
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: to paint wide receivers in how they fall from a

893
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: role perspective. And you know, you're right. There's a lot

894
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: of guys that are sub two hundred pounds, sub six foot,

895
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: but a lot of guys that I think profile is

896
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: really good complementary players, you know, potential flankers, some guys

897
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: that you can move into the slot as well, like

898
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a really good quality number two

899
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: receiver that doesn't necessarily ever have to be more than

900
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: just your one B type of guy. I think this

901
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: is actually a great draft class of guys that in

902
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: the late first round, maybe even mid to early second round,

903
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of potential options for you,

904
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: and then it just really is kind of the flavor

905
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: that you're looking for. Yeah, I mean, one of those

906
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: guys who certainly does have size in this class and

907
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: may be available a little bit later is that old

908
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: miss kid Jonathan Mingo. I know there isn't a huge

909
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: body of work there, but he's an intriguing player. I

910
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: believe you guys did a profile on him, right, Is

911
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: there anything that it stands out about? Maybe his rout

912
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: tree and how he was used at Old Miss. I'm

913
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: so glad that you brought up Jonathan Mingo because he's

914
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: not one of, you know, the highest ranked or he's

915
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: not one of the first receivers that you think of.

916
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: But I really really liked this guy in a very

917
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: similar way that I liked I'm on Ross Saint Brown

918
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: coming into the NFL draft a few years ago. I'm

919
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: on Ross st Brown his last year in his reception

920
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: perception sample from USC his final year there, he was

921
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: like a seventy percent outside receiver. But you know the

922
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: and I wrote this in the profile that people can

923
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: find on the site from back then. I wrote, like

924
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: this guy, like my instincts tell me he needs to

925
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: be like a big slot receiver. He needs to be

926
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: that power slot type of guy that you could play

927
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: outside in two receiver sets. But when you go to

928
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: eleven personnel, like, you're gonna want this guy inside because

929
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: he gets great separation on slants, curls, flat routes, and

930
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: he's got such great hands. And even if you wanted

931
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: to use him downfield. He could be like a box

932
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: out type of guy, and he's a bully after the catch.

933
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: And I was so intrigued that Jonathan Mingo when I

934
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: went to do his work for Old Miss. He's again

935
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: about a sixty seventy outside receiver in the game sample

936
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: for reception perception. But they used him sometimes as like

937
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: an almost like pseudo tight end, like tight to the

938
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: line in the backfield as a blocker sometimes, And I know,

939
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: like blocking is not the first thing that people think

940
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: of with wide receivers, but it is important, especially if

941
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: you want to set tempo as a run based team,

942
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: and I think Mingo can do that. He is another

943
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: guy that again slants, curls, flat routes closed a line

944
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. He can get separation there. But he really

945
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: plays with the bully ball attitude down the field as

946
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: a contested catch player. He acts the ball well and

947
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: he can break tackles after the catch. His overall success

948
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: rates against man and zone coverage. If you line them

949
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: up next to Aman Ross Saint Brown coming into the

950
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: NFL from USC, they are almost dark near identical. So

951
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good pro comparison for him

952
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: and a guy that I think could play that type

953
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: of role in the NFL. What's your best guess is

954
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: the order that the top guys come off the board?

955
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: Oh Man, that's hard, because again it's it's the flavor.

956
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: It's the flavor that you want at the receiver position.

957
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: To me, personally, I think Jackson Smith and Jigba stands

958
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: atop the class, and I think he's kind of in

959
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: his own tier compared to these other players. You know,

960
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: primarily the slot receiver at Ohio State almost exclusively a

961
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: slot receiver in twenty twenty one, with a couple of

962
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: guys that were awesome in the NFL, and Garrett Wilson

963
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: and Chris Olave a couple of guys that were legit

964
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: separators on the outside. But you know, Jackson the Jigba

965
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: has the second best success rate versus man coverage score

966
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: that I've charted from the prospects this year. He's a

967
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: guy that I still think if you wanted to play

968
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: him outside, he could play a little bit outside, but

969
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: he would be a total weapon inside. He's just so

970
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: crafty as a route runner and a guy that I

971
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: think just projects so cleanly to the NFL. So I

972
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: feel like he will probably be the first off the board,

973
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: and you know, based on based on again what your

974
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: team needs, I think he can fill almost anything that

975
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: you need, unless you're looking for that big body X receiver.

976
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: I would guess that the second guy off the board

977
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: is probably Jordan Addison from from USC last year and

978
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: from Pitt the year prior. I think he profiles similarly

979
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: to like a Jahan Dotson last year as a guy

980
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: that I think is probably again a really good number

981
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: two receiver, but you know, a good route runner, a

982
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: guy that's got great hands and very reliable. I think

983
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: he has great instincts and feel for the position. I

984
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: think he's probably number two. Quintin Johnson is the wild

985
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: card to me, guys, because we know that teams love size,

986
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: they love speed. He's got production, but there are questions

987
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: about his profile and again, is he gonna be a

988
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: complete full field number one receiver. I think there are

989
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: some questions to answer there. He's got questions with his hands,

990
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: He's got question with his ability to actually extend his

991
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: arms and pluckballs away from his body. There's that. Then

992
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: I think it's like a complete a complete crapshoot. You know,

993
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna like Jalen Hyatt's speed, even if he comes

994
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: from a weird offense. He could sneak in there and

995
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: be like the second receiver off the board, the third

996
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: receiver off the board, or I could see him falling

997
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: into the second round. So it's really going to be

998
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: a very unpredictable year to me at wide receiver. Another

999
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: guy that that could still be on the board when

1000
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: the Bills are picking lat and round three unless somebody

1001
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 1: really likes him takes him earlier is the Michigan State

1002
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: kid Jaden Reid, who's kind of been a little bit

1003
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: under the radar. I know you did a profile on

1004
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: him too. I was impressed with his success rate against

1005
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: man coverage. It kind of shows that he's got a

1006
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: little nasty to him even though he only goes five eleven.

1007
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: Would you say, based on you know, the rout tree

1008
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: research that you've done on him, that maybe he plays

1009
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger than his size. Yeah, I think

1010
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 1: he shows you some real flashes of being a player

1011
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: who could be a starting level receiver in the NFL.

1012
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Had I didn't make this comparison because Stephon Diggs is

1013
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: like one of my favorite reception perception players of all time.

1014
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: Of course, you guys know what an incredible route runner

1015
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: he is. His ability to get separation and win at

1016
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: all three levels. He was a guy that back in

1017
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen with the Minnesota Vikings, he was leading the

1018
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: NFL and reception perception success rate verse man and press coverage,

1019
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: and that was before he had kind of established himself

1020
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: as an elite player. I think Jaden Reid other people

1021
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: have made that comparison to Steph Diggs, and I understand

1022
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: it because, like you mentioned, the ability to separate against

1023
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: man coverage is there. The ability to get off the

1024
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage against press coverage is there. Right now,

1025
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: he actually has the top success rate versus press coverage

1026
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: among the prospects I've charted for this class, which I

1027
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: think is really interesting for a guy who's not going

1028
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: to go in the first round. You know, he might

1029
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: go on day two. I think that would be a

1030
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: great range for him, and he is like one or

1031
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: two tweaks away from being I think a really great receiver,

1032
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: Like if he just is a bit bet of a

1033
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: finisher within his routes and bit more of a finisher

1034
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: at the contested catchpoint, like I think he could be

1035
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: on that Terry McLaurin Stefan Digg's access of receiver. But

1036
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: another comparison would be like if he kind of hits

1037
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: more of like the floor outcome, maybe he'd be like

1038
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: a Russell Gauge type of player, a reserve guy that

1039
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: is probably your number three receiver but can give you

1040
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: really good reps and if called upon. We've seen Russell

1041
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: Gauge have a couple and especially as last year at

1042
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: the Falcons was a really nice year. So I like

1043
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Jade Read a lot. He is one of my favorite

1044
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: prospects that I think it's gonna go on day two

1045
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: and I think has upside to potentially be a starter there.

1046
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: One of the surprising names you just mentioned Jordan Addison

1047
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 1: out of USC. I mean he spent something he only

1048
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: played at USC for one year, was at Pitt before that,

1049
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: and didn't have as good a year as he did

1050
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: two years ago when he was at Pitt, when he

1051
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: was a you know, a blitz Na Cooff Award winner

1052
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: and all that. You had him and he said he

1053
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: may be in the top one or two receivers off

1054
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: the board. That's a little higher than a lot of

1055
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: people have him peg. Why do you think you're evaluation

1056
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: is a little different. I think that what's just so

1057
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: nice about Jordan Addison is that he feels like a

1058
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 1: very easy, clean prospect to project. Again, a guy not

1059
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: not quite as much as Jackson Sithan Jegobu, who I

1060
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: mentioned is my favorite. But the thing with with Jordan

1061
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: Addison to me is when you look at him last

1062
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: year at USC and again you mentioned he wasn't necessarily

1063
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: the big producer that he was at PITT, I think

1064
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: he stylistically, This is my favorite part about receivers is

1065
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: that these guys can be great individually, and I think

1066
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: that's what reception perceptions all about, isolating these guys as

1067
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: individual players. But a lot of it, like from a

1068
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: statistical perspective or reaching their ceiling as a producer, is

1069
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: going to come down to their fit with the quarterback.

1070
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: I think a timing, refined quarterback receiver like Jordan Addison,

1071
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't necessarily like get completely reached the high

1072
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: end of his range of outcomes with like more of

1073
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: a playmaker like Caleb Williams was last year. I mean

1074
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: that guy might be the first pick in the draft.

1075
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: But my favorite thing about Jordan Addison. You look at

1076
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: his success rate on curl routes, slam routes, and dig routes.

1077
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: You know, these base NFL routes that are going to

1078
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: be in every route combination in every single offense, especially

1079
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: like routes like the dig in slant that are going

1080
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: to work the middle of the field. You can have

1081
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: your ex receiver run those routes. You could have your

1082
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: flank or receiver run those routes. Eighty nine point five

1083
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: percent success right on the dig, eighty two point nine

1084
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: percent success right on the curl, ninety two point three

1085
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: percent success right on the slant. Like he will absolutely

1086
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: thump you over and over and over again with those

1087
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: shortened intermediate routes. Again, he feels very much like just

1088
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: a good number two receiver. Maybe he has a bit

1089
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: of a cap ceiling, but I think if you're looking

1090
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: for a complimentary player, he's a great fit there all.

1091
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: The one last guy I wanted to run by you

1092
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: was a guy that looked good on tape initially, but

1093
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: then the more you watched there was like some inconsistencies

1094
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: to his game. This SMU receiver, she rice nice size,

1095
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: looks like an outside guy. Separation though sometimes seems to

1096
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: be something he can't master on a consistent bases, So

1097
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm figuring that's going to slide him down the board.

1098
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: Did what did you kind of find in your research

1099
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: on him? Consistency is the great word to bring up

1100
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: there with Rashi Rice, because I think I probably wrote

1101
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: this so many times in his profile that actually just

1102
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: went up this morning. Is man, you see the flashes.

1103
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: You really see flashes of good play there. You see

1104
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: flashes of a guy that like he can stack and

1105
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: a defender on a nine route and get great separation,

1106
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: like two times in a row, and then the next

1107
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: three he's gonna get, you know, kind of rag doll

1108
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: by the same defender he really bullied at the contested

1109
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: catch point. I think he does show you those flashes

1110
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: being that player, but there's a lot of development that

1111
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: needs to take place there, even even in contested catch situations.

1112
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: Fifty six point three percent contested catch rate for me

1113
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: in reception perception, and that kind of goes to show you, like, yeah,

1114
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: it could go either way, like he can absolutely make

1115
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: that fantastic catch, and then other times he'll misstime is

1116
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: jumps he'll jump too early, he'll jump too late. Sometimes

1117
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: that gets him a lot of PI flags there, but

1118
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: other times it ends up being a missed opportunity. So

1119
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: to me, I think he's like a Day three developmental

1120
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: receiver that if you have some vets in the room

1121
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: that you really trust, you've got a good wide receiver

1122
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: coach that you feel really good about. I think you

1123
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: take him and you just try to draft and develop him.

1124
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: If you need an immediate contributor right away. I think

1125
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: this guy's a little bit away from a developmental perspective

1126
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: from getting on the field right now and contributing. But

1127
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: you're right about the size and the flashes. Those are

1128
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: absolutely there. What do you think is there a name

1129
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: on this in this draft class? And you know this

1130
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: is a purely subjective and you can say whatever you want.

1131
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: Is there a name in this draft class you think

1132
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: is so under the radar doesn't deserve to be I

1133
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: know we hit on one earlier. What are your thoughts

1134
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: about a guy that you think is going to be

1135
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: a really good pro that is going to slide down

1136
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: the poort and maybe every team in the league will

1137
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: have a shot at him before somebody takes him I

1138
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: think everybody's gonna have a shot at Josh Downs. And again,

1139
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: what is under the radar a little bit subjective, but

1140
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: oh man, I love Josh Downs. I think he play.

1141
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: I knew within like three routes he was gonna be

1142
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: one of my favorite receivers in this class because he's

1143
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: again a smaller guy, I mean very small, five nine

1144
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: hundred seventy one. He projects as probably a slot receiver

1145
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He primarily played a slot receiver at

1146
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: UNC last year. He's got the number one success rate

1147
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: versus man coverage score for me this year among the

1148
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: prospects charted. He's a guy that just knows how to

1149
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: set up his routes. He knows how to set up defenders.

1150
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: He's got great tempo as a route runner. He just

1151
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: knows how to get get himself open as that slot receiver.

1152
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: You know, if you're looking for somebody to run a

1153
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: lot of option routes, I think he's a great option there.

1154
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a guy to be a little

1155
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: bit more than just your typical bunny hop slot receiver,

1156
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: I think he's a great a player there. You know,

1157
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: a Jamison Crowder type. Maybe. I always like Jamison Crowder's

1158
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: earlier in his career as a guy who could get

1159
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: those short passes but could also work on like dig

1160
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: routes and post routes. I think you see some of

1161
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: that from Josh Downs as well, who's also, by the way,

1162
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: the best can I think, the best contested catch player

1163
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: in this draft, and we're talking about a guy that's

1164
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: like five nine and one seventy one. He will stand

1165
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: up physically at the catch point and he doesn't get

1166
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: bullied by bigger defenders or guys that are typically gonna

1167
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: make those make those contested catches or pull him away

1168
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: from an opposing offensive player. I love Josh Downs. I

1169
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: think if you're just looking for a safe guy that

1170
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: again probably never going to be a number one receiver,

1171
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: but a guy that you're taking the second round or

1172
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: third round, and I mean I would take him the

1173
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: second round, no question, and you just get him in there.

1174
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: He could catch like ninety balls a season and just

1175
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: be a really solid player for you. Reception Perception dot

1176
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: Com that's where you gotta go to find. Yeah who

1177
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: sports NFL an asked Matt Harman's work. Matt, thanks for

1178
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: the time. We appreciate it. Good luck with sticking up

1179
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: more of those profiles as we get close closer to

1180
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: the draft here. Yeah, I appreciate you got a few

1181
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: more coming out, and I'm looking forward to this draft. Absolutely.

1182
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for having me. I really

1183
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: appreciate it. All right, take care. That's Matt Harmon joining us.

1184
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: He is an NFL analyst for Yahoo Sports and kind

1185
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: of has his own thing going there at Reception Perception

1186
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: dot Com. I cannot imagine every play tracking routes on

1187
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: a player for eight games. Oh my lord, Yeah, that's

1188
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: that's Yeoman's work. Man tedious. I would think, yeah, but

1189
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: that my eyes would fall out of my head. It's

1190
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: amazing guys would commit themselves to doing it. He's been

1191
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: doing it for a while now, and and and the

1192
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: more you do it, the more you kind of get

1193
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: the ability to pick guys Apart his take on Mingo,

1194
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: I loved um and that the contested catches are a

1195
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: big part of what the NFL is all about. It's

1196
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: hard to win those battles, but I I gotta tip

1197
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: your hat to those guys that that are it's like

1198
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: our own It's like our own guy Greg Cosel, he

1199
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: loves doing it, and yeah, you do what you love, man,

1200
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: you'll be good at it. I'm telling you, he's got

1201
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: some really good evaluations. I'll say that it seems spot on,

1202
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: and that's I will say, like, I'm intrigued by some

1203
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: of these receivers that are a little further down the board.

1204
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: You know, if if they don't get a guy in

1205
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: round one to twenty seven at the receiver spot, I

1206
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: do not think for a second that all is lost.

1207
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: I think there are some nice players, and I like

1208
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: the players that got a little bit of an attitude.

1209
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan Mingo being a bullyball player. I like that.

1210
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: Jaden Reid is kind of cut from the same cloth

1211
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: from Michigan State. I like that. And those are guys

1212
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: that you know could still be on the board come

1213
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: late day two. So you know, if they don't get

1214
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: a receiver in round one, it's not the end of

1215
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: the world. We get to day three and we still

1216
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: don't have one, then I might get a little nervous, right,

1217
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm saying is there is depth

1218
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: in this class even though you don't have the alpha males.

1219
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: As we've talked about true number ones. The Bills don't

1220
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: need a true number one. They need somebody that can

1221
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: compete for a number two role here with game Davis.

1222
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: So I think that can be had somewhere on the

1223
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: first two days of the draft that goes even beyond

1224
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: round one. That's what has me encouraged. I think there

1225
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: are enough players in this pool where the Bills could

1226
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: be very happy with someone they get a pick. What

1227
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: are they ninety one in round three? I think I

1228
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: think it'd be very happy with somebody that they get

1229
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: down as far down as that, even at the receiver position.

1230
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: We had a funny little thing happened, and uh, Steve,

1231
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: this is great, this is this is so mom, it's

1232
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 1: not even funny. So there was this mom who was

1233
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: at an airport. She's waiting for a plane, and she

1234
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: sees this stranger, you know, sitting there waiting for the

1235
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 1: same plane. And she was of the opinion that the

1236
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: young man looked like Chris pratt is. So she decided off, well, no,

1237
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: he was in Parks and did the uh Jurassic Park movies,

1238
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: and also he was in the Avenger of The's a

1239
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: lot of stuff Galaxy, Guardians of the Galaxy. Anyway, she

1240
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 1: thinks this stranger sitting next to her and in the

1241
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: terminal waiting for the airplane looks like Chris Platt Pratt.

1242
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: So she decides she's gonna play a joke on her daughter.

1243
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: She tells the guy, I think you look like Chris Pratt. Yeah,

1244
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: take a photo with me. I'm gonna try to pull

1245
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: a fast one on my daughter and say, hey, I

1246
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: met Chris Pratt. Guy was a great guy, said you yeah,

1247
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do it. So he poses next

1248
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: to her in the photo and texts her daughter, hey,

1249
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 1: I met Chris Pratt. So before she can get a response,

1250
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: another person in the terminal goes, um, that's not Chris Pratt.

1251
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: You look more like that's that's Josh Allen. And so

1252
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: they pull up a photo of Josh Allen and the mom.

1253
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: The mom looks the photo and she doubles down. She goes, yeah,

1254
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: you do look a little like Josh Allen, but he's

1255
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: got a square head. You don't have his square head.

1256
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: And so he's so then he this WoT he's laughing

1257
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Josh Allen was Josh Yeah, joshot for our

1258
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: MSG viewers. And there's the mom with her text that says,

1259
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: I just bet Chris Pratt and Josh Allen given her

1260
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: the quintessential thumbs up in the picture. Apparently, this poor

1261
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: woman is clueless. She's obviously not a build frand either. Yeah.

1262
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: It's great because she goes he goes, oh, you look

1263
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: like Chris pretty. He goes, yeah, maybe I don't know.

1264
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: And then and the guy goes, you look like Josh Allen.

1265
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: He goes, I sometimes I get that. Yeah, and he laughs,

1266
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: and she goes, no, you don't look like John. You know,

1267
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,799
Speaker 1: you're just square head. To that, Josh laughed. He like, okay,

1268
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: he never said anything, never gave it up. She didn't

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01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 1: know until she until later. Yeah, probably after she was

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01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: off the plane. It's pretty awesome. That is so Josh

1271
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: playing along with that whole thing. It's not even funny.

1272
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: Got the job he does. Yeah, he does have his

1273
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: squarehead You're right, he's got the Chris Pratt beard thing going,

1274
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 1: you know that, Like he always has a three day beard,

1275
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: and he looks he looks like Chris Pratt. I can

1276
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: just see this poor mother and what she probably endured here.

1277
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: She thinks she's playing a joke on her daughter, and

1278
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: her daughter is probably like Mom, you were taking a

1279
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: picture with Josh Allen and you didn't know. It's like, yeah,

1280
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: so she's probably so the joke ends up being on her. Yeah,

1281
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 1: although she does have a photo with a famous quarterback,

1282
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 1: so I guess she has with the wrong name at

1283
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: the bottom, with the wrong name at the bottom, she

1284
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: can reproduce the photo and hang it. So it's great.

1285
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: I just thought that was hilarious. That is such, That

1286
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: is such a mom thing. That is so mom, poor

1287
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: mom being clueless. Uh. I loved it though. That was great.

1288
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: Good for Josh for playing along? Well what I mean,

1289
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: would you expect anything else? I mean, he's got a

1290
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: great sense of humor. Ye, so I am not the

1291
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: least bit surprised. And how often is he mistaken for

1292
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: somebody else? That had to be a new thing for him, right, Yeah,

1293
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: we'll have to ask him the next time we see him.

1294
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: Do you get mistaken for Chris Pratt? Like, if people

1295
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: don't recognize you for who you actually are? Who are you?

1296
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: Who are you like compared to you know what I mean,

1297
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: what's the name that comes up? And here's the thing too,

1298
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: a guy like like Josh. People watch movies and they

1299
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: get you know, a guy like Chris Pratt who's in

1300
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy and all these other things, and

1301
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: he seems big in those means. I don't have any

1302
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: idea who how big he is, but Josh, you know,

1303
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: being as big as he is kind of plays into

1304
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: the larger than life kind of Oh yeah, there's that.

1305
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: The guy plays a superhero and Guardians a Galaxy a

1306
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: lot there he is, and you know, so it kind

1307
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: of plays into it. And could you know if you

1308
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: if am a Seni in person, the guy's as tall

1309
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: as an oak tree, you can't miss him. You can't

1310
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: miss him. So having him, you know, be there and

1311
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: having mom pull that that's pretty funny. Who that's good.

1312
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: That's really good. We have to take a break here.

1313
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll get back to the phones

1314
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: as we want to ask you what has to happen

1315
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: in front of the bills at twenty seven in order

1316
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: for them to take best player available, or maybe something

1317
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: has to happen to their roster between now and then

1318
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: as well. You let us know at eighth three five

1319
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: fifty one, eight eight five fifty two five fifty the

1320
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: number two get on board, were back with your phone

1321
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: calls next here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned back

1322
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live, Chris Browns, Steve tasking with

1323
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: you send me a picture. Yeah, can't wait. I gotta

1324
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: get back to the phones, and we are asking you

1325
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: today what has to happen in front of the Bills

1326
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: and their pick at twenty seven to give them the

1327
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: freedom to go best player available, Maybe something has to

1328
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: happen on their roster as well. We go back to

1329
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: the phones and we leave off with Art and Rochester

1330
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: for this segment we got for his art. Hey, I know,

1331
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: and um, I'm a long time Bill's fan. I watched

1332
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: your show almost every day. Is a great show. Um,

1333
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: I think that I think I'm not sure what we

1334
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: need to do to uh, to make something happen on

1335
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: the roster. And I think Jordan Addison is the wide

1336
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: receiver we need to get. I mean harmon Herrod that

1337
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: you had on Earth and Analysis had a great and

1338
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: analysis of him. Um, he's when he was with Pitt

1339
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: he had a hundred catches for fifteen hundred and seventy

1340
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: yards When his USC it was fifty nine catches eight

1341
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five yards. That's fifteen yards of catch.

1342
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: This kid. This kid does everything. I mean, he he

1343
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: catches everything as as Harman uh showed said that it

1344
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: was like plus career contested catches. Um, he's he just

1345
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: gets open a lot. He has a lot of yards

1346
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: after the catch. Um. It's almost almost akin to what

1347
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: Beasley was in his prime. Um. And he can catch

1348
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: while he'd be wide receiver outside, inside checkdowns to whatever.

1349
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: I just I just think that he's the one that

1350
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: we need to have it we can he slides down

1351
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: to twenty seven, I think you should. There's not that

1352
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: many needs for other teams to pick wide receivers. I

1353
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: don't think I'll I'll say what art. I think there's

1354
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: a really good chance Jordan Addison's there when if the

1355
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: Bills pick indeed at twenty seven, I think there's a

1356
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: chance he'll be there. I really do. I think people

1357
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: are going to knock him for his size. I think

1358
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: that's a little misguided. I know people are always worried

1359
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: about durability, week to week, availability, all of those things.

1360
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: I think he played. I said this yesterday on the show.

1361
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 1: He is a three level receiver. He can win for

1362
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: you in the short game, in the intermediate game, and

1363
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: deep and he only runs at four to four nine.

1364
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: It's not like he's some kind of blazer. But he

1365
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: is a precision route runner. And when I watched him

1366
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: on tape, there were elements of Diggs route running precision

1367
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: to his game. I'm gonna reiterate as I did yesterday.

1368
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Diggs, but the way he wins

1369
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: on routes, he does it in a similar way to

1370
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: the way Diggs does. He is a technician. There's a

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01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: route that reminds me of Diggs. Right, yeah, that's a

1372
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: Diggs route. That's a that's a steph Diggs move right there,

1373
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: so's that one. So yeah, it's yeah. I think we

1374
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: got a shot at getting a guy like that. I'd

1375
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: be very happy with him. Um, and I think he's

1376
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: got a little dog in him too, like Diggs does.

1377
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: I would suspect, and I don't know this, I'm just

1378
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: saying it could. I would suspect that if if they draft,

1379
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: if he's there and they draft a different wide receiver,

1380
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: it's because the guy has better measurables. Either he's bigger,

1381
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: or he's faster or both. That's the only difference I

1382
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 1: would see in a guy taking at twenty seven, because

1383
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: there's always you can make a case that's you're gonna

1384
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: be a guy further down, like at fifty nine. The

1385
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: Bills could take that is exactly like that. Even he

1386
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: may be available at fifty nine. You don't know. I

1387
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: doubt it, but he might. So you might have a

1388
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: hard time. You might be able to get him at

1389
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: twenty seven, but you may be able to get a

1390
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 1: guy who is has better measurables at twenty seven. I

1391
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: don't say that they put a higher priority on that

1392
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: because this guy's productive. He's been consistently productive at a

1393
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: high level in college. Not most of these wide receivers

1394
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: we're looking at can't say that this guy has been

1395
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: productive year over year. So that goes a long way.

1396
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. We shall see. But yes,

1397
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: you have two people that like Jordan Addison here as well.

1398
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 1: Back to the phones and to Judy and Buffalo. What

1399
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: do you got for his Judy? You know this draft

1400
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't excite me at all. I don't see anybody

1401
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: of consequence that's going to make a difference. I don't

1402
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: see a linebacker, a tight end, a receiver, a lineman.

1403
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: I just think we're talking over our heads. I don't

1404
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna make any impact. I do have a

1405
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: question about one player because I don't know too much

1406
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: about him out on our team. Quint Morris tight end.

1407
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: I remember during the year, I know he probably they

1408
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: probably threw more passes, but I remember two. One was

1409
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: for a touchdown and one was for a consequential first down.

1410
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: Does quint Morris have a future with the Bills, Judy,

1411
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I'm with you. I think Quintin

1412
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: Morris has a lot more he can offer, especially in

1413
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: the passing game I've seen. I think he's got as

1414
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: good at hands as any player on the roster. I

1415
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: don't know why he has fewer opportunities. Although I know

1416
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: Knox is a full blown real tight end. Who can

1417
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: who can go Quintin Morris is. I think the guy

1418
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: catches it extremely well, and I think if it wasn't

1419
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: for the fact that he's got Dawson Knox in front

1420
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: of him, I think he'd play a ton I'm with you, Judy,

1421
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: I think Quintin Morris is as a guy I'd like

1422
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: to see more of. Now, you know, you had to

1423
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: create stuff like that for it to happen. But I'm

1424
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: with you. I think Quintin Morris is a guy that

1425
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: the Bills could use more of for this draft. You

1426
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: said it, I think that the impact if this draft.

1427
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: You're right, there's nobody that really excites, no Alpha do

1428
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Nobody. I think the biggest impact for

1429
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: this team could be would be if the Bills were

1430
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: drafting higher, if they had their choice. I think it's

1431
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: got to be one of the big guys up front

1432
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: that would be the most impact. I don't think. I'm

1433
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: with you. I don't think the skill positioned players in

1434
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: this draft are good enough to step into the Buffalo

1435
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: Bill's roster as it's constructed right now and be like

1436
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: a different, like an impact player right out of the gate.

1437
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you can make this a case for like a

1438
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: Bijan Robinson, a running back, maybe an inst but even so,

1439
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: middle linebacker you see him, I don't know. It depends

1440
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: on if he can make plays, Okay, but if he's

1441
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: just another guy and a good linebacker, yeah, I don't know.

1442
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: You need a guy you got to start there. Yeah,

1443
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: unless he yeah maybe, um maybe maybe Jack Campbell or

1444
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: Drew Sanders, the two linebackers, maybe they could make an impact.

1445
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: I hope so, but they've got to. But they would

1446
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: have to really splash. I mean, Sanders would have to

1447
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: come in and have another ten sacks season like he

1448
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: did this last year as a senior, you know what

1449
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean. He'd have to have one of those, or

1450
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, get three or four interceptions or five interceptions.

1451
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: Same thing with Jack Campbell. They'd have to come in

1452
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: and make plays to make kind of impact. We'd notice

1453
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: or you'd see on a stat sheet the linebacker he's

1454
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 1: always or should have always have the most tackles. Um,

1455
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: so that wouldn't be a surprise. But I'm kind of

1456
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: with Judy, but I do think there are guys who

1457
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: could make an impact if we drafted a big time

1458
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman or a tackle. An offensive lineman could

1459
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: be a guy who would be felt at least by

1460
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: the players on the field and into the production. He

1461
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, you wouldn't see him running for touchdowns obviously,

1462
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 1: but I think that's where a guy like that this

1463
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: draft could make an impact. And Judy, you are right.

1464
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: Gwinn Morris only caught two passes last year for eighteen yards.

1465
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: One was four Buddy, he looked good. He didn't catch

1466
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass. Yeah, he caught one against Miami. Yeah, Oh,

1467
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm only looked. Never mind, Remember he threw in a

1468
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: postseason he's more than two. Yeah, he's zinged hay classes

1469
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: eighty four yards. Yeah, he caught a real a zip touchdown.

1470
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: We just saw it. Um, that's the one that Josh

1471
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: threw right at the back of that head the defender

1472
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: and Quintin Morris pulled it in and against Miami. Yeah,

1473
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: difficult catch, very difficult catch. Yeah, I mean he could

1474
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: be used a little bit more. Tommy Sweeney is no

1475
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: longer here. He signed in free agency with the Giants,

1476
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: so by default right now, he's your backup tight end.

1477
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 1: He's your number two. And if I remember right, he

1478
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: was a former receiver in high school and then transitioned

1479
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: to tight end, so he's still relatively young at the

1480
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: position and is still developing there. So the hands are there.

1481
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any debate about that, and I

1482
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: think he's taken very well to the blocking end of

1483
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: the game. So all very positive going forward for Quintin Morris. Yeah,

1484
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: I think there's a coach McDermott likes to say there's

1485
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: more meat on the bone there with his development, and

1486
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: I expect that from him entering what did that be?

1487
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: Year three? I think coming up here for Quintin Morris,

1488
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: so yeah, encouraging. I'm just, I'm just, I'm a little just.

1489
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Judy. She's down on the draft.

1490
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know if she's gonna watch it. She

1491
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 1: don't like anybody. I'll say this though. She's on the

1492
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: money as always. She always she calls whatever once in

1493
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: a while, and she's always got a really good insight.

1494
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody have the courage to say that

1495
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 1: about an NFL draft when we're all so excited about

1496
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: getting new players, and she says, it's not exciting. He's

1497
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,560
Speaker 1: none of these guys I love like anybody, I love it.

1498
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: She's right this, And I think what she means is

1499
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: where the Bills are picking, you know, you're picking so late,

1500
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: it's hard to get excited about anybody. Well, there's nothing

1501
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 1: it was. It gonna be one of these wide receivers

1502
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: that's like small, as small as you and me. You know,

1503
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, right, they're gonna be They're not gonna be,

1504
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: you know. Julio Jones ain't walking through the door, you know,

1505
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: so Calvin Johnson ain't coming through the door. So you know,

1506
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, okay, and you know, a linebacker, okay, right,

1507
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: I get it. And and it'll be kind of the

1508
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: same thing if they do pick an interior off sensive lineman,

1509
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, and I gotta go find this

1510
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: guy and I don't even know what I'm looking at here?

1511
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: Where's he play? You know we're gonna because you know,

1512
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, he's never gonna he doesn't carry the ball.

1513
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: It's it's a very unsex you know, offensive linemen are

1514
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: very that position group is very unsexy. When you're talking

1515
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: about making an impact and making plays on the guarant

1516
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you know, give the ball to a

1517
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, a scat back, and I want to see

1518
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: that guy run. I don't want to see an offensive

1519
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: lineman pulling out in front of him. So I'm I'm

1520
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: she's on it, She's She's totally right. We're picking twenty

1521
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: seventh in this draft, and this is Listen, We've been

1522
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: other places, so this is a better place to be,

1523
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: even though it's less exciting picking twenty seventh rather than

1524
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: seventh Um, she's on it. I totally agree with her.

1525
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: It's hard to get excited when twenty six other teams

1526
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: are gonna get to pick a guy before you do,

1527
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: at least the way it stands. Now, Yeah, I get it.

1528
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: I totally get it. She's on Still not get up

1529
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: in my excitement for the draft. I love the draft,

1530
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: why just because of all the drama and uncertainty and

1531
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: the drama because here's and it's the future of your

1532
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 1: football team. Yes it is. I'll say this, The draft

1533
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: does have its moments because particularly for guys like you

1534
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 1: and me and people in the business, and you know,

1535
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 1: all the fans too, But you spend your time falling

1536
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: in love with people you don't know. Yeah, you know, right,

1537
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: you have all these things. And it's also one of

1538
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: the ways you can convince yourself you're a little bit

1539
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 1: smarter than everybody else, because you know, I see I

1540
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: knew that guy. Was I like that guy before anybody

1541
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: else they knew it. It's meanwhile, Judy's like, I didn't

1542
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 1: like anybody from the jump, and I was right, and

1543
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: I'm happy about it. All Right, we gotta take a break,

1544
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: Steve and I will close things up with some final

1545
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: thoughts on the tweet sheet next here on one Bill's

1546
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: Live presented boy Collie to health. It's Buffalo Bill's rate

1547
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: all right. The final thoughts on the tweet sheet here.

1548
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: In terms of what you think needs to happen for

1549
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: the Bills to take best player available at pick twenty seven,

1550
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: Ron says, I would prefer an old lineman at twenty seven,

1551
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 1: but it also depends on who's there at that spot.

1552
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: Would also like to see a rookie middle linebacker to compete,

1553
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: but not you're any or valued with first round grades.

1554
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: If the Bills truly go best available, that could very

1555
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: possibly be a tight end. Yeah, could also be a corner. Interesting, Yeah,

1556
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm still I mean, offensive line, you're always You're always

1557
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: fine picking an offensive lineman. Nobody's gonna squawk about it

1558
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: if you pick a guy who's got that value. But

1559
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm more of a I'm more of a mind to

1560
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 1: pick one of the money positions. Tackle, quarterback. Those two

1561
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: are out. They don't need a MC tackle maybe, but quarterback.

1562
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 1: You're not gonna take wide receiver, corner or an edge

1563
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: rusher even at not take another edge rusher. I don't

1564
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: care do it, But I'm there is a general I

1565
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: think that if an edge rusher goes to the Bills

1566
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, that people are going to riot just

1567
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: because of the recent draft. I get it. But sooner

1568
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: or later you think you're gonna hit on one. But

1569
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think you need to pick one

1570
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: of those money positions because those guys up in that

1571
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: area have measurables that make them better than the guys

1572
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: are going on against. So if you're gonna beat one

1573
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: of those guys, you gotta do it with technique or

1574
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: with an extra guy. Measurables count, And I think when

1575
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: you go that high in the draft, I think two things.

1576
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 1: One stick with measurables and two go with a money

1577
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: position corner, wide out, edge tackle one of those guys.

1578
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: You know, that's what I think. I get it. Edward says,

1579
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't see best player available happening because if that

1580
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: would be true, they could end up with a running

1581
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: back from Texas. Draft is always about need. Well, it's

1582
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: about need, but what Trump's need is value. Every time

1583
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: any GM you ask him, we've got a big show

1584
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: tomorrow and joining us on the show, we'll be Liege doozable.

1585
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: As we find out what the heck's going on with

1586
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 1: the Jets down there. We'll see it one