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Speaker 2: long time tier ones, the crunch of a Lucy Man.

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Speaker 2: Listen for the past few months in the comment section,

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Speaker 2: especially on YouTube, but throughout the whole entire Busting with

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Speaker 2: bringing back the older intro. We want the older intro now.

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Speaker 2: Behind the scenes, when the cameras aren't on, there's text

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Speaker 2: messages flowing between me and Will some of the boys.

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Speaker 2: They whisper in the back. We need to bring it back.

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Speaker 2: Why are we bringing it back? There's a reason why

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting on this bus alone today, and the reason

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Speaker 2: is the vote has won. You people have won. And

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Speaker 2: I hate saying that because I don't want this whole

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Speaker 2: like now we control Busting with the Boys, but as

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Speaker 2: new intro is out and the old intro, the intro

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Speaker 1: Alright, We're good.

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Speaker 3: You like that, Busting with the boys, hanging with the faces,

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Speaker 3: betting on a game.

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Speaker 1: No moment's gonna tell us what you can knop.

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Speaker 3: We're here just drinking beer and making a baby. I'm

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Speaker 2: I hope you guys all enjoyed that old intro. This

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Speaker 2: week on Busting with the Boys Special Special time, we

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Speaker 2: now for the second time, have a Titans head coach

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Speaker 2: episode is are you going to bring back the pain train?

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Speaker 2: And those of you who have sat in Nissan Stadium

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Speaker 2: bring it back in your life. That is the Chevy

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Speaker 2: Silverado and this podcast, Busting with the Boys, is presented

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Speaker 2: by the Chevy Silverado. This is a Chevy truck podcast,

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Speaker 2: boys and girls, the greatest truck ever built, and our

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Speaker 2: good friends at Chevrolet have been a big part of

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Speaker 2: a commanding and unstoppable grit, legendary capability and dependability to

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Speaker 2: so find out for yourself, Like so many of our boys,

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Speaker 2: head over to Chevy dot com to check out Chevy Trucks,

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Speaker 2: Grit and build your own Silverado for do it yourself projects,

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Speaker 2: But I can take those kinds of hits, now, Callahan,

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Speaker 5: No, I think we're good. We already twisted with him.

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Speaker 7: I need help, like dick questions I think we need

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Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be about like would you rather

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Speaker 5: Out, we need like The best twisted question we had

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Speaker 2: And we're still green lights, right, are you guys green lights?

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Speaker 6: If you choose parking spot, you're literally dumb in the head.

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Speaker 2: That's all I need to hear. If he doesn't fully

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Speaker 6: I mean there's no parking lot on planet Earth that

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Speaker 6: I feel like I have nuns, like parking isn't that

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Speaker 2: Don't overthink the best answer, because that is the best answer.

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Speaker 1: Did then close to your mouth. Don't be scared, don't

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Speaker 1: be shy. Kim and Lucy, are you a nicotine guy?

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Speaker 8: I am not anymore? I was at one point. I'm

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Speaker 8: Are you in the zens?

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Speaker 2: Always humble beginnings.

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Speaker 1: Before we uh, before we jumped on here, we were

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Speaker 8: You want to know most of them call most of

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Speaker 2: Cali. Yeah, okay, I've got a little extra English on it.

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Speaker 8: and but yeah, coach works, Cali works. Weird. People don't

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Speaker 2: Okay, mister Calli it is.

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Speaker 1: Then. Yeah, they was talking to Cali about the individual

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Speaker 1: Sometimes in our individual linebacker drills and Washington, I'd be like,

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Speaker 2: They just be dying the whole time.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. Brod's coach Callen's a grinder he gets

438
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Speaker 1: out of you.

439
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 2: Coach Bill Callahan, Yeah, Coach Bill Callahan, Yeah, absolutely, what

440
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 2: was go ahead?

441
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 1: I was just going to say, whatever timeframes that you

442
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 1: get with any constraints, you're juicing as much, all the

443
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 1: seconds you're getting it out of the boys.

444
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Speaker 2: Has he been like that always? As long as you

445
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 2: can always.

446
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, always, He's always been full till all the time.

447
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 8: And that's how you get I mean, that's how guys

448
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 8: get better. I mean you like we were watching yesterday,

449
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 8: I think they might have done forty or fifty different

450
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 8: pass sets, and they film every one of them and

451
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 8: he cuts every one of them up to each guy.

452
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 8: So you could watch all your reps for the whole

453
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,199
Speaker 8: day and see how you progress during a day and

454
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 8: got better. But yeah, it's every usable second he uses.

455
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 8: It doesn't ever stop.

456
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Speaker 2: What's his philosophy on PAS sets, because a lot of

457
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: coaches come in they're like, we do it one way

458
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 2: and one way only. Is he let the guys the

459
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Speaker 2: boys do what they want.

460
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 8: They well, he coaches the technique that he's looking for.

461
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 8: But there's a lot of variants in the set, the

462
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Speaker 8: set angles, if you're jump setting versus a he calls

463
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Speaker 8: a congo set versus an angle set. There's there's all

464
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Speaker 8: kinds of variation that they use all the time, and

465
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 8: there is some like he That's one of the things

466
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Speaker 8: that I think he does great is he's able to

467
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Speaker 8: have a conversation with a guy maybe that's played ten

468
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 8: years and say, well, have you done it and find

469
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Speaker 8: ways to work with them on what fits as long

470
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 8: as they're still getting the job done. Yeah, he's open

471
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 8: to listening in the guy's talk, but he's a very

472
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 8: particular way about how he coaches it.

473
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 1: Dude.

474
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Speaker 2: That's that's so awesome how the old dogs are willing

475
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: to still learn and do all that. Because you get

476
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: some of those old old school cats, they'll come in

477
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 2: and be like, you do it this way and this way.

478
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: Only one guy. Have you ever met Russ Grim?

479
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 8: I have not met him. I know him at it,

480
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 8: I can't say that.

481
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 4: No.

482
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: I was with Russ for two years. The greatest offensive

483
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 2: line coach I've ever had in my entire life. Yeah,

484
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: and he comes in the first meeting and he's like,

485
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 2: talk to me about stutter. I don't know if you

486
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: guys have stuttered open open side pull scheme. And I'm like, okay,

487
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: if it's a three technique, reduce to the mic and

488
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: if not, then you're this. He's like, wha deuce or

489
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: through the mic? That's it. I was like, all right,

490
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 2: what step. He's like, just get to the mic or

491
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: do the deuce, and he just like instead of having

492
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: to over explain every small detail. He was like, just

493
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 2: know what your job is and go get that done

494
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 2: the best way you can possibly do it, and I'll

495
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: help you along the way. And he was huge for

496
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: my career. Yeah, keep it simple, stupid, Yeah.

497
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Speaker 8: Something to do that, yeah, or something to do that.

498
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Speaker 8: It's I think the cool thing that fort like old coaches,

499
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 8: and my dad's not that old, I guess, but he's

500
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 8: kind of old enough. He's older, old gentleman. And what's

501
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 8: been super impressive about him is his ability to go

502
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 8: from like being that old, like the old old school

503
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 8: style of coaching, and he's really adapted how he approaches

504
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 8: today's players. I mean it's different now even then when

505
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 8: when you guys played coming in. I mean you think

506
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 8: about ten years ago, how much different the generation is,

507
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 8: and his ability to relate to those guys and still

508
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 8: connect with them and coaches him hard as hell, but

509
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 8: they all know that he cares about him.

510
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Speaker 1: No one knowing that you've seen him kind of adapt

511
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: and develop with those times. Is there anything that you've

512
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: asked him on, like, you know, noticing that difference in him,

513
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Speaker 1: understanding that he has changed.

514
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's a there's a you know, I

515
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 8: think one of the things that jumped out was, you know,

516
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 8: they drafted Dewan James last year in Cleveland, and it

517
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 8: was just he's just very different than the guys that

518
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 8: he's been on and in a long time ago, he

519
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 8: might have coached Dewan a very different way and ultimately

520
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 8: it might not have worked very well. And just to

521
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 8: see him adapt and know that maybe the way that

522
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 8: I'm approaching this, de Wan's not going to respond to

523
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 8: me yelling and screaming and get in his face. I

524
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 8: got to be it's positive and encouraging and trying to

525
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 8: point out that these are the things that can help

526
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 8: you and if you want to make a lot of money,

527
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 8: here's how you do it right. And he appeals. He

528
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 8: knows how to appeal to guys a lot of different ways.

529
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Speaker 8: He knows the motivations I think. I mean, he's a

530
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 8: master coach. He's he's got every every way to relate

531
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 8: that you can relate in the book. And I asked

532
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 8: him all the time, well what made you do that?

533
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 8: Why did you do that in this case and not

534
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 8: that case? And it's because he knows the player and

535
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 8: he knows how to make it work.

536
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 2: When you get this job at the Tennessee Titans and

537
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: you call your old man say I want you to

538
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: be the old line coach from my ball club.

539
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: How did that?

540
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: How did that all go down?

541
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Speaker 8: It was It was cool. The backstory is I had

542
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 8: interviewed for two jobs the year before that had gone

543
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 8: oh well, A ways down the road. I felt like

544
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 8: I was in the mix, and I'd have conversation with

545
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 8: him and I said, you know, do you want to

546
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 8: to do this. I've never worked for my dad, never

547
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 8: he I never worked for him at any point. There

548
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 8: have been some chances where I might have, we might

549
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 8: have connected on staff together. I just never worked out.

550
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 8: So I've never spent any time with him in the

551
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 8: coaching profession. And so I asked him this question a

552
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 8: year ago and he was like, no, I don't think

553
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 8: I want to do that. Really yeah, well, I mean

554
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 8: if you think about yeah, but you think about you know,

555
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 8: there's a lot that goes into a father and sign

556
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 8: of working together, and this would be this is the

557
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 8: first time that I think a son has ever hired

558
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 8: their father in a in a substantial role like that.

559
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 8: You know, It's like Kyle Shanahan, Mike's always been around,

560
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 8: but he never hired him in an official could like.

561
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 8: It wasn't like Mike Shanahan was Kyle's coordinator.

562
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Speaker 1: Right, if that makes sense.

563
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 8: It's kind of a really unique setup. And so you know,

564
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 8: we had to work through all those things, like my

565
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 8: dad's like, I'm not for everybody. I'm what if you

566
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 8: don't what if you don't like the way I coad

567
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 8: you know what I mean? And you have to have

568
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 8: those conversations, and so we did, and ultimately he was like,

569
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 8: I just think I really like Cleveland, like Kevin Stefanski,

570
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 8: and I'm happy here. I like the guys in the room.

571
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 8: I don't really want to leave, I understand. And so

572
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 8: I kind of just assumed that was going to be

573
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 8: the case as this process went along, and so as

574
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 8: I interviewed, I was everybody asked like, well, you know,

575
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 8: is your dad coming with you? I'm like, no, he's not.

576
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 8: I mean, we had we had the conversation. Is probably

577
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 8: not gonna happen, and I didn't think it would. And

578
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, I get the job and I

579
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 8: call him and tell him I got it, and he

580
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 8: calls the next day and he's like, let me think

581
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 8: about some things and I'll call you back.

582
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: Hold on.

583
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 8: I was like, OK, no, I mean that that initial

584
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 8: conversation was like absolutely thrilled we didn't have it in

585
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 8: that moment.

586
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you know, yeah, you guys have a conversation, Hey,

587
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: I got the job, proud of your son. Tears in

588
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: both of your guys' eyes. The next day he calls

589
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: you and without any context, goes, let me think about

590
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: coming to help you out.

591
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 8: Yeah. I love that, And I think it just became one.

592
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 8: It became much more real for him in that moment.

593
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 8: And and I think had it been the year prior,

594
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 8: I think the answer still would have been no. And

595
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 8: but having it happen in real time and him going, man,

596
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 8: this is what a unique opportunity to go try to

597
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 8: help my son succeed. And I think I'd want to

598
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 8: be a part of that, and so as you. I'll

599
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 8: go have my press conference. And we were kind of

600
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 8: talking back and forth, and after the press conference, he

601
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 8: was like, this is I want to make I want

602
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 8: to do this, we need.

603
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: To do this.

604
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 8: It'll be it'll be really pretty fun. And it's been

605
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 8: maybe the coolest experience of my coaching career is to

606
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 8: be able to go to work with my dad every day.

607
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 8: It's been pretty sweet.

608
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Speaker 1: Dude. You had a unincredible like press or when you

609
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: were talking about with your dad, like there was a

610
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: lot of perspective, a lot of just like you can

611
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: tell when you say that, like you genuinely mean it.

612
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 8: Oh yeah.

613
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: Was there a reason that you guy that you guys

614
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: were never on the same staff. Is there something about

615
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: saying maybe yourself to where it's like, Hey, I don't

616
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: want to be known this way and don't want to

617
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: feel like I get any handouts from somebody who's already

618
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: been there, done that.

619
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, Oh, that's true. One of the things I had finished.

620
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 8: My dad was at at Nebraska at the time. I

621
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 8: was just finishing my playing career, and he goes, he said,

622
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 8: you look, you can come to Nebraska and you could

623
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 8: be a here for me if you want to do that.

624
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 8: I have a spot you can come do that. He goes,

625
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 8: But what I would recommend to you is you've been

626
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 8: at UCLA for for four years. You know the people there,

627
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 8: you know the place. They have also said we'd love

628
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 8: to have you in this role if you want to

629
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 8: come when you graduate and do be a g G

630
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 8: A here at UCLA and my dad was like, I

631
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 8: really think you should stay at UCLA, And in that moment,

632
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 8: I was like, like, damn Dad. Like but the best

633
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 8: advices he had ever given me was he goes, starting

634
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 8: to make your own way. He goes, it's already you're

635
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 8: already going to get all these you know, all the

636
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 8: the nepotism and all stuff. It goes around coaching where

637
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 8: it's like, he goes, but you've I didn't give you your

638
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 8: first job, and he goes, that will matter at some

639
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 8: point for you, and I want you to make your

640
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 8: own way and make your own connections and meet your

641
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 8: own people that can help you, as opposed to me

642
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 8: being the one to do it. And I think that

643
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 8: was the best advice you could have given me, and

644
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 8: it probably was the best thing that happened to me.

645
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 8: He was not going to work for my dad and

646
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 8: staying where I was.

647
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: At any point, were you guys close to working together

648
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: in the past.

649
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 8: No, nothing that came up. You know, when we first

650
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 8: got to Cincinnati there there was some there was a

651
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 8: chance that maybe it could have worked out. But it's

652
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 8: Zach's first job and he's he wants to hire the

653
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 8: people that that he wanted to hire, and it never

654
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 8: got It was never more than like a curiosity, like, oh,

655
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 8: I wonder if that would work, and it just he

656
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 8: was still in Washington at the time, and it was

657
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 8: all he was again, happy where he's at. He's got

658
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 8: a good line there. It was no big deal. So

659
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 8: it never never went any further than curiosity. But it no,

660
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 8: we've never been really close at any point to working together,

661
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 8: which is kind of crazy to think.

662
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about how you cut your teeth into the

663
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: business and being a GA at U c l A

664
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: and moving on from that role.

665
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, typical GA stuff.

666
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: Man.

667
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 8: I made coffee and got people food and worked long hours,

668
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 8: and you know, we had a really good staff there

669
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 8: at UCLA, which it's someday someone will write a story

670
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 8: about it. But Eric Banniman was the running backs coach.

671
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 8: John Embry was our tight ends coach. Dino Babers was

672
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 8: the receivers coach. Tom Cable was the offensive coordinator. Jim

673
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 8: Soboda was a quarterbacks coach. We had all these guys

674
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 8: that all went on to be head coaches, you know,

675
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 8: within a certain period of time, and really dynamic staff

676
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 8: all these and so I got to learn from all

677
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 8: these guys as a really young coach, which probably a

678
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 8: huge reason of why that experience was so good for me.

679
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 8: But man, it was a it's a grind ga life

680
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 8: is is uh is not for everybody. Back then that

681
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 8: was you only had two gas that could be on

682
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 8: the field, and so it was like it was two

683
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 8: or three guys that did everything. Now you have all

684
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 8: these analysts and there's all this different stuff that they

685
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 8: didn't have back then. By rule, you couldn't have anybody

686
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 8: else anybody on But it depends on where you went

687
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 8: now U C l A. I can guarantee you that.

688
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: Because really followers the Bruins.

689
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 8: Huh Yeah, it was me. In fact, the gas there

690
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 8: were me, Clark Lee, head coach at Vanderbilt, Ryan Ficken

691
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 8: who's been in the NFL for quite some time as

692
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 8: a special teams coordinator, and Phil Rauscher, who's the line

693
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 8: coach at the Jags. And so it was a bunch

694
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 8: of guys, like we were all young coaches and we've

695
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 8: all had these pretty good careers, but that was all

696
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 8: we had and we had to do every We did

697
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 8: everything really, I mean operation stuff, grinding all the tape,

698
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 8: breaking it all down, breaking all the tape down before

699
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 8: all the pff dat I got supplied to everybody. I mean,

700
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 8: you had to break down the down and distance. You

701
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 8: didn't know what personnel in the fields. You couldn't see

702
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 8: jersey numbers because the tape wasn't an HD. It's just

703
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 8: a whole different way of doing things than it is now.

704
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 8: But it was. It was a lot of work. It

705
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 8: was hard.

706
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: So they didn't look over at the SEC and go,

707
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 2: you know, they got a lot of guys over there,

708
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: maybe we should do a couple of things too.

709
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: No like that.

710
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we were, They just didn't have the you know,

711
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 8: it is a public means, yeah, I mean.

712
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but U is a nice area. It's Pasadena for sure.

713
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: But as far as like calling the shots, the big

714
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: wigs like a fair enough football over everything will find

715
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: a way.

716
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, very very academically drove. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very academically.

717
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: Not every school can do both like Michigan. Back again,

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Speaker 2: Brian Callahan, big hugs, tiny kisses. You brought up a PFF.

745
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: What's your what's your stance on PFF's rating system.

746
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 8: I think there's value in a baseline, like there is

747
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 8: some things that you can you can you can look

748
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 8: at it, and there's a number that they assigned to, uh,

749
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 8: particularly to some positions that are really hard for like

750
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 8: the average person to have any idea what is good

751
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 8: and bad. But as far as like is it the

752
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 8: end all be all and the grading system not at all.

753
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 8: I mean it's you got to watch the game, you

754
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 8: need to understand assignments. And they've gotten better. I will say,

755
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 8: like the grading system has gotten better over the years.

756
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 8: They've refined it. I use it more for some of

757
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 8: the just the amount of data that they have. I

758
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 8: can go, let me see every screen from every team

759
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 8: for the last four years and I can pull them

760
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 8: all up and watch them all. Yeah, and that's where

761
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 8: the value and that is for me. The grades, I

762
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 8: don't really you know, I don't really put a whole

763
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 8: lot of stock in the grades.

764
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: It feels like they'll probably use the grades like have

765
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: that there, and then obviously every team does their own,

766
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: and then I'm sure that they.

767
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 8: There's a bench a little bit. Yeah, yeah, there's a benchmark.

768
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 8: I mean it does give you it is it is

769
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 8: a halfway accurate depiction of what a what a good

770
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 8: and bad might look like.

771
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Yeah, if it's cut and dry,

772
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: But the gray areas I feel like is we're PF

773
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: because they're not there with the language of the play

774
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: call and what the exact technick is supposed to do.

775
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't hate PFF at all, but there was a

776
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: like there's a time where players, players in the locker

777
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: room and the Titans were like kind of worried that

778
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: if their PFF grade was bad that teams and coaches

779
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: were looking at that. Do coaches look at the PFF

780
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: grade ever, and go, no, no, no, maybe we should

781
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: maybe we're doing something wrong.

782
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 8: No, I don't think I've never looked at it like that. Yeah,

783
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 8: I've not been around anybody that ever has used that

784
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 8: as like, that's our grade for a player. You're still

785
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 8: great a player. Watch the tape and understand what's being asked.

786
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 8: Systematically as well, other than just hey, this guy graded

787
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 8: at a eighty two point six, Like, I don't know

788
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 8: what that means. Number that's good if you got yeah,

789
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 8: it's a solid numb you wouldn't be so mad about it.

790
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

791
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: There will be the time where you feel strongly about PFF,

792
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: but then you grade out well, so then it's like,

793
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: all right, where are you going to stand? You know

794
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like say you hate PFF, but the

795
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: ninety five it's like, well, I mean I did.

796
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 8: Have a situation they might be honest something.

797
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I had a situation in twenty sixteen where

798
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: they were grading me well and then Paul Kaharskan the

799
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: group of the Titans news guys, were like, how do

800
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: you feel about that? And I took a stance then

801
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: and there they don't they don't run the show. Yeah,

802
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: they don't run the show big quickly my grades went down,

803
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Yeah, that's where they might have

804
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: kind of start. Yeah, it might be a little bit

805
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: of takeing over the PFF.

806
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. With you're throughout your coaching journey, you've been at

807
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: some cool spots which spot or stop that you've been

808
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: at has you feel has been the most pivotal for

809
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: where you are now.

810
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 8: God, They've all, all, for different reasons, have been really

811
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 8: really influential. The two that the two of the most

812
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 8: are my time in Denver with Peyton Manning for four

813
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 8: of those six years I was there, and then the

814
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 8: journey in Cincinnati from where we started to where we

815
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 8: ended up. Those two spots are probably the most because

816
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 8: they're the longest days I had. They were the most influential. Obviously,

817
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 8: being around Peyton Manning for any amount of time is

818
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 8: a is a blessing in and of itself. But yeah,

819
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 8: he's that was like a PhD in quarterback.

820
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: We grow him here at the bus. The fly keeps

821
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: flying around.

822
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 8: Look you, I mean, Cicada's in here yet, I know

823
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 8: we're They're.

824
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: Everywhere out here. Dude, watching Peyton in that last year

825
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: where he necessarily couldn't throw it beyond five ten yards,

826
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: what was it like sitting back? Yeah, I mean, I'm

827
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: sure he'd say it. Well, watching him operate from being

828
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: more limited than.

829
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 8: He ever has, Yeah, it was really It was a

830
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 8: It was a wild year because we had just transition

831
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 8: from in Gary Kubiak was the head coach, and then

832
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 8: they brought that whole system which was vastly different from

833
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 8: the one that he had run for the better part

834
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 8: of eighteen years at that point, and so there was

835
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 8: a big back and forth there. He had gotten injured

836
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 8: that year and missed a bunch of time and then

837
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 8: came back for the playoffs. At the very end, brock

838
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 8: Ostwall I think had thrown a couple interceptions and they

839
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 8: replaced him at halftime right at the very end of

840
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 8: the season in like a must win game against the Chargers,

841
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 8: and then he ended up playing the playoffs. It was

842
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 8: just it was a roller coaster season. It was a

843
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 8: lot of ups and downs. But what the cool part

844
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 8: was you saw what made him so great was his

845
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 8: ability to process and know what to do and when

846
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 8: to do it in the moment. Like it was unbelievable.

847
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 8: And even with a diminishing physical skill set, he wasn't

848
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 8: what he was when he was in his twenties. I mean,

849
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 8: it was unbelievable what he pulled off with his brain

850
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 8: and just being able to know what to do with

851
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 8: the football.

852
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's he like watching at practice? Like I've had

853
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: teammates who have played with him, they're like, you know,

854
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 1: if a tight end drops of ball, he'll take he'll

855
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: take the he'll remove the tight end, even if even

856
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: if you're back there like oh no, get back out there,

857
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's like, no, no, give me somebody else who's

858
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: gonna catch the ball and be dependable in these moments.

859
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: Like what was he like? That's accurate.

860
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 8: That's what it was. It was. It was a standard.

861
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 8: And it's actually funny we're having a conversation today about

862
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 8: guys that are like that, get to that point in

863
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 8: their careers that have the pelts on the wall and

864
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 8: the experience, but on top of that, the pressure, you know,

865
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 8: the expectation is that they're gonna win every game. Aaron Rodgers,

866
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 8: Tom Brady, Drew Brees. Those guys get to a certain

867
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 8: point in their career where they don't allow anything other

868
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 8: than what the highest standard is possible, and if you

869
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 8: don't meet it, you're not gonna be playing with them.

870
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 8: And that's how he operated, and and I appreciated that

871
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 8: because he's got all the pressure he's got. I gotta

872
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 8: I gotta do my part. And if I'm if I'm

873
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 8: gonna do all this, then I'm gonna make sure that

874
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 8: everybody around me is is at the same level that

875
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 8: I am. And I thought that was a really cool

876
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 8: thing to witness and in person. But that's how it

877
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 8: would be if you if you didn't if you missed

878
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 8: an assignment. He was particularly ruthless on like running backs

879
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 8: and protection and he had to be able to trust

880
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 8: him to do because he didn't you know, I don't

881
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 8: want to get hit, right, And if they missed an assignment,

882
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 8: it was like give me the next one, or like

883
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 8: if he's if he's coming into the game, I'll come out,

884
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 8: you know.

885
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Like that.

886
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 8: It was that intensity and the expectation.

887
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: He's coming into the game, Coach Kelly, you don't put

888
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: him in the game, I'll be out.

889
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

890
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

891
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 8: If I see him coming on the field, you'll see

892
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 8: me walking off.

893
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

894
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

895
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 8: So that part was just it's just a demand of

896
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 8: the standard of what you expect every day and it

897
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 8: was awesome And then again everybody rose to meet it.

898
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 8: You know, we had young players and Eric Decker and

899
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 8: Demarus Thomas and c. J. Anderson, I mean, meet some

900
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 8: guys that were unproven at the time that he helped

901
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 8: make what they became. And it was a really cool process.

902
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 8: To be a part of man. He's unlike anybody I've

903
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 8: ever been around.

904
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: What's it like with the coaches during practice when he's

905
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: sending a guy away and the coach is like, no,

906
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: you're in, And there's like this kind of this battle

907
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: of egos between the sheriff and the coaches. Get uncomfortable

908
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: at all? Is there like in the meeting room like this.

909
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 8: Can we be honest about it? It's if he doesn't

910
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 8: want him in, he's not going to be whether coaches aren't.

911
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: Saying a word like yeah, yeah, you probably right eighteen.

912
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 8: I mean that's just what That's just what it was,

913
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 8: and that's why and you and you, and it wasn't

914
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 8: like that all the time, but like there was, there

915
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 8: was a standard, and if you didn't meet it, the

916
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 8: expectation was that you wouldn't be you wouldn't be there

917
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 8: playing with them. But that's also what drove guys to

918
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 8: be even better than they thought they could be, was

919
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 8: because they wanted to be a part of it, and

920
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 8: they wanted to be in that mode. They wanted to

921
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 8: be accounted on. And it's amazing what happens when you

922
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 8: got a guy making sure that you better do it.

923
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 8: Right or you can't be. It drives you to be

924
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 8: great truth you.

925
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: So you have Peyton Manning and then you go to

926
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and you get blessed with Joe Cool Joe Burrow.

927
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 8: Yeah what is Joe? The staff and the two years,

928
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 8: the two years in Detroit were phenomenal. It was I God,

929
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 8: Matthews talk about underrated man like, I think he's one

930
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 8: of the best quarterbacks in football and has been for

931
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 8: a long time, and I think he finally gets his due,

932
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 8: but there was a while there where he didn't. And

933
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 8: he might be one of the toughest players I've ever

934
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 8: been around, and one of the most crazy talented quarterbacks

935
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 8: that I've seen play. I mean, he's unbelievable.

936
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: That clip of them in like a two minute drive

937
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: to win the game and he like gets his shoulder

938
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: out or something like that and he's on the sideline that.

939
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Was in his career.

940
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, that was like just one of the cooler

941
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: things you see a quarterback do because he's like hurt

942
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'll do it, and he throws a touchdown.

943
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: The games over they win, He's.

944
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 8: Like, shoulders broke, he broke his color bone. No ship, Yeah,

945
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 8: I think that's what it was, if I remember correctly.

946
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 8: But yeah, he's you want to talk about. I mean

947
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 8: that you guys know, the things that guys play through

948
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 8: that people don't know about is it would be shocking.

949
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 8: I think if people knew what the guy's dealt with

950
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 8: during a football season and the things that he played

951
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 8: through and the toughness that he had, it was it

952
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 8: might be the toughest guy I've ever seen. I mean, truthfully,

953
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 8: Oh yeah he is. He is hard, hard, knows, tough

954
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 8: as all get out, and he's an awesome guy to

955
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 8: be around. I don't know how much time you guys

956
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 8: have spent with him, but I.

957
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: Never I don't think I met him either.

958
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: You just hear, you hear, just like that time.

959
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Why do you think he was still under raid for

960
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: so long? Just because the franchise layoffs?

961
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 8: Yea, they didn't win enough, you know, And that's again,

962
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 8: that's a the wins tend to become a quarterback stat

963
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 8: which they probably shouldn't be. But there he was on

964
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 8: teams that were probably on the on the brink and

965
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 8: could never quite get over that hump. And and then

966
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 8: obviously he goes to l A and he's been lightning

967
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 8: on fires and every time. I mean, he's been unbelievable. There,

968
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 8: wins the super Bowl, all the like. It's he's finally

969
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 8: I think, getting his due as a player. But yeah,

970
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 8: he was that player before.

971
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: He got to l A.

972
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 8: He just didn't probably get the recognition for it.

973
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: And then you get Joe B. Yeah. Yeah, You've been

974
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: around some cats.

975
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 8: I've been very lucky, I've been very bad.

976
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: Stafford, Joe Burrow. What are the similarities that all three

977
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: of those guys have? And then you've talked about a

978
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: little bit on the way that staff was Peyton was,

979
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: and then also some differences with Joe B.

980
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it was. It was very different because

981
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 8: Peyton was obviously going and I think when he came

982
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 8: to Denver that was like year fifteen when I went,

983
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 8: when I was with Matthew, I think Matthew was going

984
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 8: into like seven eight A, seven eight nine ten somewhere.

985
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 8: He was, he had been playing for a couple of years.

986
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 8: And then having Joe was different because Joe was a

987
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 8: rookie obviously a highly highly regarded and his reputation preceded

988
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 8: him when he got drafted, but he was still a

989
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 8: rookie and so that was a really fun process to

990
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 8: try to help that development from being a rookie and

991
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 8: as you guys know, rookies are rookies even no matter

992
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 8: how good they are, still takes some time. But to

993
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 8: see him become everything that we thought he could become

994
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 8: and he knew he could become was pretty awesome. And

995
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 8: that's because he shares a lot of the same traits

996
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 8: that that Peyton and Matthew have in terms of, you know,

997
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 8: there's just an edge to the there's just something about

998
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 8: those guys and you know it when you see it,

999
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 8: where they just don't accept any thing other than the best,

1000
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 8: and there is no such thing as failure like they

1001
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 8: do not they won't fail, they can't fail, and there's

1002
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 8: there's a willpower in that. I think that's kind of

1003
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 8: the baseline of who they are. And then there's a

1004
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 8: drive to be the best there is, yeah, and there's

1005
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 8: just and then he has the ability to deliver on it,

1006
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 8: which is pretty cool. Very different personality than Peyton and Matthew.

1007
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 8: They're all very unique, but they share that commonality where

1008
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 8: they're they're at their core, they are they are assassins,

1009
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 8: ladies and gentlemen.

1010
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,640
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Speaker 2: get back to this episode. When did you win Joe?

1035
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: When Joe walks into the Bengals franchise and you say

1036
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: it takes rookies, doesn't matter how good they are. Takeing

1037
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: some little bit of time, when did you know, Okay,

1038
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: we got the franchise.

1039
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 8: Quarterback, probably about halfway through that first year where you're

1040
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 8: still kind of figuring some things out. Obviously it's a

1041
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 8: COVID year, so it's even more challenging. So he has

1042
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 8: no offseason. We don't have any OTA's, there's all virtual.

1043
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: God, imagine picking up a playbook.

1044
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 8: And and then there's no fans in the stadium. So

1045
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 8: his first game, we play the Chargers, and this is

1046
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 8: the game where uh Tyrod got injected and they punched

1047
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 8: Lung and so then it was Herbert and him playing

1048
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 8: and Joe goes down at the very end of the game.

1049
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 8: It would been like the legend of Joe Burrow would

1050
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 8: have only grown end of the game, goes down and

1051
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 8: throws a fade stop to aj Green in the corner

1052
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 8: of the end zone and they calls for OPI. So

1053
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 8: the game winning touchdown gets called back. So we go

1054
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 8: kick a field goal to tie it, and our kicker

1055
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 8: cramped and missed the game winning field goal. There's no

1056
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 8: there's nobody in the stands cramps and we miss, and

1057
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 8: so here's this like, here's this like busting out of

1058
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 8: the scene. Here comes Joe Burrow come back win last

1059
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 8: minute when in his first start, and it just it

1060
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 8: isn't And it was like, that's that's that's unfortunate. You

1061
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 8: saw a glimpse of that and that in that drive like, oh,

1062
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 8: this guy is gonna be pretty good, I think. And

1063
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 8: then each game he successively got better. And I think

1064
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 8: the one game you probably played in potentially, I think

1065
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 8: Tennessee came to Cincinnati and we had lost, and then

1066
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 8: we had five new starters up front, and then we

1067
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 8: had signed Quinton Spain on Friday and he started at

1068
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 8: left guard on Sunday, Yes, and so we had we

1069
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 8: had a guy that hadn't practiced with us, and we

1070
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 8: had five new starters. And that was the game where

1071
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 8: Joe sort of took it on and took it on

1072
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 8: his back and we ended up winning the game. We

1073
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 8: played pretty well, and it was that game when it

1074
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 8: was like he's arrived, this is the game, He's he

1075
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 8: is what we thought he was going to be. And

1076
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 8: then he goes and plays good for another I think

1077
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 8: maybe one more week, two more weeks, and he gets

1078
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 8: hurt in Washington and tears me up. God so the season,

1079
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 8: but he was we were hitting this rise, we were

1080
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 8: we were going to win. I think we would have

1081
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 8: won a handful of games on a stretch, and I

1082
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 8: think people would have looked like, oh, here he comes.

1083
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 8: But he gets hurt and it's out. Nobody knows how

1084
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 8: good he's really going to be. And he ultimately sacrificed

1085
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 8: his knee for Jamar Chase because that allowed us. We

1086
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 8: were not very good after that, and we picked Jamar

1087
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 8: the next year, the fifth overall.

1088
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: But a lot of stuff came up in that draft

1089
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 2: where when when he gets hurt, everyone's like they need protection.

1090
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: You just said all the offensive lineman route. You sign

1091
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: a guy off the streets, he comes and starts for

1092
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: you that week, and you guys go pick Jamar Chase.

1093
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: Where was the thought process in that building when you're

1094
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: evaluating because you're you're thinking franchise quarterback. We know this

1095
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: is the guy, we got to get him. Offensive lineman?

1096
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 8: What was it was the pin Sul it was and

1097
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 8: Jamal That was like the big debate. It's like, how

1098
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 8: do the how can the Bengals not draft the left tackle?

1099
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: Looking back on it, you can't go wrong like both

1100
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: those yeah.

1101
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 8: Both of me, Like these guys are going to both

1102
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 8: be all Pro players, right and whoever you pick was

1103
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 8: going to be right. But you we went back and

1104
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 8: forth and there was playing a debate, plenty of opinion

1105
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 8: on it, and ultimately I had went back some of

1106
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 8: my time in Denver when we had Damarius Thomas, Eric

1107
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 8: Decker and then Emmanuel Sanders and then in the slot

1108
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 8: we had Wes Welker and we were we were and.

1109
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 2: I was so nasty underrated, Yeah, very very good player.

1110
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 8: And we we had a game against New England when

1111
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 8: we were in Denver down the stretch and it was

1112
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 8: two bad was back to back plays or maybe two

1113
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 8: out of three plays. End of the game. We had

1114
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 8: to go win the game, and we hit two go

1115
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 8: balls down one each one each side. I think one

1116
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 8: was Marius, one was to em Manual, and it was like, man,

1117
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 8: when you got to win versus press coverage, it doesn't

1118
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 8: matter who you have up front. If you can't have

1119
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 8: a guy that can go win that matchup, you're gonna

1120
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 8: have a hard time throwing the ball to win in

1121
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 8: the NFL, and that always just stuck with me, and

1122
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 8: I always thought that was a good way to build

1123
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 8: an offense. Is that make sure you have guys that

1124
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 8: can win. And you know, we're getting this debate back

1125
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 8: and forth about the tackle and the receiver, and I

1126
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 8: was like, well, I said, if he can win fast enough,

1127
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 8: it's not gonna matter how long we blot. If he

1128
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 8: can win quick, we can get the ball out quick.

1129
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 8: And one of the things that Joe does so well

1130
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 8: is play on time in process and so the ball

1131
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 8: gets distributed. And it's like, well, we can negate some

1132
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 8: of the offensive line issues if we got elite playmakers outside.

1133
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 8: And that was my stance, and then it's a couple

1134
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 8: of other people had some didn't have that. So it

1135
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 8: went back and forth, but ultimately we landed on that

1136
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 8: Jamar would be the the gay that scores touchdowns. Would

1137
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 8: be one that would be more helpful for our offense,

1138
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 8: and thank god we did.

1139
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 2: So you were the guy that brought Jamara Cincinnati.

1140
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 8: I'm not going to claim. I'm not going to claim.

1141
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 8: I'm just telling you my perspective on the argument was that,

1142
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 8: and I voiced that. I mean, that was my progative

1143
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 8: the voice it as a coordinator, and I think Zach

1144
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 8: felt the same way as Zach Taylor. I think he

1145
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 8: landed on that same argument. So the two of us

1146
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 8: sort of were in agreement, but ultimately it was that's

1147
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 8: a Zach Taylor, Duke Tobin and Mike Brown decision that

1148
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 8: gets made. But that's that was the argument back and forth.

1149
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: Then the most fiery, drama filled moment in a war

1150
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: room that you've seen.

1151
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: Hold on, Could I just did you guys talk to

1152
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow at all about Hey, should we go tackle?

1153
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: Why receive it? Being a rookie, but knowing he's.

1154
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 8: Joe's involved, we kept Joe in the loop on all

1155
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 8: the personnel decisions and the thought process and we actually

1156
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 8: talked to him a lot because knew Jamar and so Jamardin'

1157
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 8: if you if you remember Jamar didn't play that year

1158
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 8: because it was COVID year and he sat out and

1159
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 8: so there wasn't any recent film on him other than

1160
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 8: the year that he was tearing up the sec with

1161
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 8: Joe killing and so Joe was like, Joe didn't Joe

1162
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 8: was like, I'll take Jamar every every day and twice

1163
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 8: on Sunday like this, It's not even a debate for him.

1164
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 8: He because he knew what he was, uh, he knew

1165
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 8: how impactful he could be. And so Joe was all

1166
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 8: in favor of Jamar in that situation. And I'm glad

1167
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 8: he was.

1168
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: I love it.

1169
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: So I forgot you off get that same question. Yeah,

1170
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: most fiery or drama filled, tense moment in a in

1171
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: a war room that you've that you've been a part

1172
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: of or witnessed.

1173
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 8: You know what. Not all there hasn't been as many.

1174
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: Were somebody you look back, you're like, man, maybe they

1175
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: should we should have took that guy.

1176
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 8: There's always that. I mean, I would say the debates

1177
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 8: between the players that were available to us and at

1178
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 8: pick five that year was pretty intense. I mean there

1179
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 8: was some guys that felt like Kyle Pitts was a

1180
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 8: really fantastic prospect coming out and he was the Pinna Suol,

1181
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 8: those the other guys that were involved with Obviously Devanta

1182
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 8: Smith and Jalen Watta were both in that conversation, So

1183
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 8: those were pretty Those were pretty intense conversations because guys

1184
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 8: are pretty convicted on what they thought those players could be.

1185
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 8: And so I remember a good couple back and forth

1186
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 8: on some of those debates on this player over this player,

1187
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 8: and ultimately when you look back, like, well, we weren't

1188
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 8: gonna be wrong either way. All those guys ended up

1189
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 8: being great players, so we know nobody was wrong in

1190
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 8: that regard. But when you're debating on who to pick,

1191
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 8: and do you take Penna Suol or do you do

1192
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 8: you take Pina Suol and try to take Devanta Smith,

1193
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 8: and you know, what's the what? What player are you

1194
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 8: looking at? And you obviously account for some of those

1195
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 8: quarterbacks going and you look at the world of player

1196
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 8: you're in and you got a debate like hell, and

1197
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 8: those usually means that you made the best decision too,

1198
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 8: because you've you've flushed out all the all the good

1199
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 8: and bads and pros and cons of all the players.

1200
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 8: And but those were pretty intent. Those debates are pretty intense.

1201
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 8: Those are the ones that I remember the most because

1202
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 8: you're picking at five, that's a that should be a

1203
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 8: Hall of Fame style player and you can't get it wrong.

1204
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, with with that clock ticking down at five, how

1205
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: long did that discussion go before someone's like, hey, we

1206
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: got to call this thing in or was it pretty

1207
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: decided when you knew.

1208
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 8: You once you knew what were the players, Because we

1209
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 8: weren't sure who was going to Gore is going to

1210
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 8: go to Atlanta, you didn't know. You didn't know if

1211
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 8: Miami was going to try to trade up. There was

1212
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 8: a whole lot of stuff going on that until you're

1213
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 8: on the clock, you don't know. But the decision had

1214
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 8: been made prior to the draft, even starting that if

1215
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 8: this this is the order we're going to go in.

1216
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 8: If this is if Jamar is there, we're taking them.

1217
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 8: If Jamar's not there, we're taking pay. If those two

1218
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 8: are both gone, we're taking this guy. So that stuff

1219
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 8: all gets settled out prior to the draft, even starting.

1220
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 2: When you when you hearing you talk about the Bengals

1221
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 2: and how you guys established your offense gets me fired

1222
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: up for the Titans because you're seeing how you view

1223
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: the field, how you feel you need guys to win

1224
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: and press one on one coverage, and you're getting all

1225
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: these athletes in there. All you have so many, so

1226
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: much talent on the offensive side of the ball. Now, like,

1227
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: what what's the expectation WHI should be happening for the Titans?

1228
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: We win it all this year?

1229
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 8: Is this it?

1230
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: You know?

1231
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: I tell I tell Jack and Garrett back there, who've

1232
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: been Titans fans. It's the inception of Tennessee that we're

1233
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: going to win the Super Bowl.

1234
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 8: I tell our guys all the time that we don't

1235
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 8: make any any predictions or promises, So I I certainly

1236
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 8: can't step out here and.

1237
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: That's good meeting set, that's good.

1238
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 8: Anything other than that, I will say this, though, I

1239
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 8: am excited about what we've done. The players we've added.

1240
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 8: I think they're all you know we had with Calvin

1241
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 8: Ridley and Tyler Boyd and and de Hop coming back,

1242
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 8: and Tony Pollard mixed mixing in with with Taj Spears,

1243
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 8: and you get a chance to draft J. C. Latham,

1244
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 8: and you got a year two for Peter Skronsky, and

1245
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 8: now you go signing Lloyd Kushienberry to send Like, I

1246
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 8: feel like there's some there's some really exciting pieces that

1247
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 8: you know, if we can put it all together, I

1248
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 8: think we have a chance. And obviously I believe in

1249
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 8: Will Levis. It's a large reason why I took the

1250
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 8: job is that I think he's capable of being a

1251
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 8: really good player, and he has not disappointed so far

1252
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 8: in the offseason program. He's fantastic, does everything you ask

1253
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 8: the way you want it, And I'm excited to see

1254
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 8: what we have. I just I'll leave it at that.

1255
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 8: I think we can. I think we can put together

1256
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 8: a competitive football team.

1257
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: What do you see in Will Levis? Because again, we

1258
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: just rattled off three guys that you've been around, Paid Manning,

1259
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Joe Burrow. What do you see similarly with

1260
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: with Will?

1261
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 8: The drive? He's got the drive. He wants to be

1262
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 8: a great player. He wants to do whatever it takes

1263
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 8: to be a great player. I think one of the

1264
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 8: cool things about watching Will get to play last year

1265
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 8: and in some pretty adverse circumstances is you saw his toughness.

1266
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 8: You know, I think that's kind of a common theme

1267
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 8: with these guys, is they all have this kind of

1268
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 8: innate toughness that that guy's rally around. You know, when

1269
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 8: you see when you see a quarterback out there, you know,

1270
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 8: diving for a first down or or taking a shot

1271
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 8: and making a great throws. He's taking one on the chin.

1272
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 8: That's the kind of guy you want to play for,

1273
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 8: right Like you go, you go, yeah, let's I can

1274
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 8: do this. That guy can This guy can do enough

1275
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 8: for me to play hard with. And you saw all

1276
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 8: those things on tape last year, and he saw his

1277
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 8: physical talent. Obviously, I don't want him jumping and diving

1278
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 8: and flipping around for first downs because let's not do that.

1279
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 8: Let's not do that. Let's see that's that's that's the

1280
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 8: that's the brand. I mean, you need that thing to work.

1281
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 8: So we'll try to lessen some of that. But I

1282
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 8: think he's proven uh his toughness to the to the

1283
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 8: guys and the team and the people in the NFL

1284
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 8: look at him and go, all right, this guy he's

1285
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 8: got a chance. Now let's give him as much talent

1286
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 8: around him as possible and and and see if we

1287
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 8: can help him with a system offensively to have some success.

1288
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 8: And he's got all the traits that you look for though,

1289
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 8: as far as the drive and determination to be great Uh,

1290
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 8: is there And that's that's exciting.

1291
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: With the with Ran, like you walk into the building

1292
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: and for the nine years I was with the Titans,

1293
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: like day one and two of free agency, nothing ever

1294
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: happened with the Titians. We kind of sit back, let

1295
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: the first wave go, and you kind of pick pieces

1296
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: up in the middle market. You guys came and started

1297
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: just cleaning house immediately do you and Ran? How clear

1298
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: is your guys' conversation of where you want the direction

1299
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: to go? Like, how that's just on the same page?

1300
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: Clear?

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00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 8: Him and I hit it off in the interview process,

1302
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 8: and he was a guy that that I just connected

1303
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 8: with immediately. You know, you meet people and you just

1304
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 8: there's just something about the connection. You're like, this is

1305
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 8: this is the kind of person I want to go

1306
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 8: to work with every day. And it has been that

1307
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 8: way from the minute we stepped on our first Zoom

1308
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 8: interview through today. It's been everything I thought it would

1309
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 8: be in terms of our working relationship and our vision

1310
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 8: and how we want to execute the vision and what

1311
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 8: it's going to take to get the team competitive to

1312
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 8: where we feel like we can contend for the division

1313
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 8: and for the playoffs and ultimately for a Super Bowl

1314
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 8: someday that we've been on the same page with everything

1315
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 8: and it's been really really fun, Like it's not like

1316
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 8: that everywhere, as you guys know, you don't always get

1317
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 8: that connection, and it's, uh, it's been incredible, and he's

1318
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 8: got a great feel for what football is supposed to

1319
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 8: look like we see it the same way. And man,

1320
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 8: when you go into a free agency period and you're

1321
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 8: in lockstep and with Chad Brinker as well, where you're like,

1322
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 8: this is the direction we're heading, you feel really good

1323
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 8: about it. And then the coolest part about it is

1324
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 8: you get to a certain point in free agency where

1325
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 8: things don't always you know, we didn't get everybody we

1326
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 8: initially thought we were going to get, and so a

1327
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 8: guy goes here and a guy goes there, and and

1328
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 8: now you look around, Well, the difference in the good

1329
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 8: teams in free agency is how fast do you pivot?

1330
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 8: And so we lose two or three guys, and all

1331
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 8: of a sudden we look up and we're like, we

1332
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 8: should probably check in on Calvin Ridley and see where

1333
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 8: that's at. You know, we got some we got money

1334
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 8: we didn't think we're going to have. We lost a

1335
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 8: guy or two that we thought we were going to

1336
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 8: get back and we didn't. So let's let's check in,

1337
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 8: let's see where it's at. And so then that process

1338
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 8: started and kind of swooped in the middle of the

1339
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 8: night and stole Calvin out of there. And that was

1340
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 8: because you just you gotta fluid. You're able to pivot.

1341
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 8: You have a plan in place, and when the plan

1342
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 8: doesn't go exactly the same, you know where the next

1343
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 8: spot is. And I thought Ram was masterful in the

1344
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 8: free agency.

1345
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: Process with like your philosophies in the way you want

1346
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: to kind of cultivate your first job being a head coach,

1347
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: like what you inherited with the Titans, from the familiar

1348
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: faces who are still here. What are some of the

1349
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: directions and vision you wanted to kind of take this

1350
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: team internally in the building. Yeah, from what you'd understood

1351
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: most previously.

1352
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, I think the thing about the Titans, I

1353
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 8: think really for the history of the of the organization

1354
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 8: in Nashville, is that it's always been a tough ass team.

1355
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 8: You know, regardless of the players that have been on

1356
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 8: the team, there's just a there's been a tradition of

1357
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 8: this toughness every time we ever played Tennessee, it was

1358
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 8: like buckle up, boys, like you're gonna get You're gonna

1359
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 8: get every it's gonna be everything you got, everything they got,

1360
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 8: and it's going to come down to the end. And

1361
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 8: that's how I've always viewed the Titans every time we've

1362
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 8: ever played them, for the years of been in the NFL,

1363
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 8: It's just there's always been good players here. It's always

1364
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 8: been tough teams, they've always been well coached. And that

1365
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 8: part is the part you want to stay. That's sort

1366
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 8: of like an ethos of the organization. You want that

1367
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 8: to be a part of who they always are, regardless

1368
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 8: of who's in charge. And the other part that I

1369
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 8: believe in is that you want guys that love being

1370
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Speaker 8: around each other, that love being in the building together,

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Speaker 8: and you want an environment that they love working with

1372
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 8: their coaches too. And so there's a there's a feeling

1373
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 8: that you want when you when you wake up in

1374
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 8: the morning and you got to go to work, and

1375
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 8: there's it's one of two ways. Either you're like, fuck, man,

1376
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 8: I want to go to work today. Oh, I've been

1377
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 8: there a couple of days, yeah, or it's like like

1378
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 8: hell yeah, I can't wait to get to work, and

1379
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 8: that's the what I what I'm going for is that

1380
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 8: second option where guys wake up and can't wait to

1381
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 8: be in the building because they love what they're doing

1382
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 8: and who they're doing it with, and there's a connection

1383
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 8: amongst the people that are doing it with. I think

1384
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 8: that's what unique about where we are in Tennessee now

1385
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 8: with Rand and myself is that it's a very open

1386
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 8: building and there's there's a lot of back and forth.

1387
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 8: Like you see Ram walking into hallways and he's out

1388
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 8: of practice and he's dapping guys up and he's talking

1389
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Speaker 8: to him in the lunch room and I'm around and

1390
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 8: I'm visible, and there's our personalities play off each other.

1391
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 8: And I think we hired a coaching staff that's the

1392
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 8: same way. And I hope the players feel that when

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01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 8: they're in the building. I think if you ask most

1394
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 8: of them, they would feel, at least to start, that's

1395
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 8: how it feels. But I want guys that love coming

1396
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 8: to work and playing football together. Because everybody's got money,

1397
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 8: everybody's got talent, and I think that's what separates teams

1398
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 8: is what kind of locker room do you have and

1399
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 8: what kind of people are in the building, and I

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01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 8: think that's what matters the most.

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Speaker 2: when we went to the franch of the facility, it

1427
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: seemed like everybody was way more. Those guys were coming

1428
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: up to us saying, hey, like it's different, like things is,

1429
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 2: the energy is different, and there's a higher vibe here

1430
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 2: That doesn't take away from anything from John and Vrave,

1431
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: like they there was a Patriots Way type of vibe

1432
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: where buttles are tight when you go into a team

1433
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: meeting and you know you can get exposed if you

1434
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: have a bad play at practice. So it was like

1435
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: everyone's got to be on their shit to know that

1436
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 2: on Sunday we're gonna go win. Like, how long once

1437
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: you got in the building and got with the guys,

1438
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: did you see the transition of them like all right,

1439
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: letting their shoulders down, letting their guard down a little bit.

1440
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm being like, Okay, we can we can mix it

1441
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: up a little bit with the coach. Yeah, it's headball

1442
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: coach in a GM. That's that's a tough two guys

1443
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: to mix it up with and feel comfortable unless you're

1444
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: like that that's been in the game for a long time.

1445
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 8: And I still feel like guys get nervous sometimes around

1446
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 8: me and I don't. It's new for me being in

1447
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 8: the role too. I realized how.

1448
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: Much your position like a cool guy.

1449
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 8: I'm learning more about the weight of my words and

1450
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 8: my interactions and how much it matters to guys when

1451
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 8: maybe you don't think twice about it, but it might

1452
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 8: be the only time you interact with the head coach

1453
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 8: the for a week, and like that hit that sticks

1454
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 8: with guys. I remember Eve as a play how that

1455
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 8: would stick with me? And I'm much more mindful of

1456
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 8: that now than maybe I ever was, And even as

1457
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 8: the days go by, it stands out sometimes. But I

1458
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 8: think that there's a lot of ways to win in

1459
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 8: the NFL. There's not one set way that you have

1460
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 8: to take, and I think as long as you're kind

1461
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 8: of authentic to what you believe in, you can you

1462
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 8: can build the program in the image that you think

1463
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 8: is the right way. And I just believe that there's

1464
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 8: a when you come to work and there's a there's

1465
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 8: a looseness and and and and a joy in the process.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 8: It makes a really hard profession a little less hard.

1468
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 8: And I think when you get into the the part

1469
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 8: that when it is really hard, when you're in December

1470
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 8: and it's tough, and you're banged up and it hurts

1471
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 8: uh to go practice every day, there's something other than

1472
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 8: the money motivating you to go out there and play

1473
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 8: with the boys, right, I mean that's kind of what

1474
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 8: that's what you want. And yeah, I think an environment

1475
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 8: that's got some joy to it and some fun and

1476
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 8: some energy, I think takes a little bit of the

1477
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 8: edge off of how hard it can be. And it

1478
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 8: can be hard, you know. It's even when everything's great,

1479
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 8: even when everything works well, there's always days where it's hard.

1480
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 8: And I think that if you have a locker room

1481
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 8: in a building that's conducive to a little bit of

1482
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 8: fun and excitement and offended. I mean, I am who

1483
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 8: I am, I'm gonna I don't want to try to

1484
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 8: be anybody else. And that's just always been my personality.

1485
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 8: And I think that hopefully that that that shows up

1486
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 8: in what our team looks like.

1487
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ain't lying. I mean the playing football every

1488
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: day is it's a grinder, especially like you're saying later

1489
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: in the year, it gets dark a little earlier.

1490
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: You're feeling on your nick last week of October is

1491
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: like the worst the walk through today or have to

1492
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: lace some up.

1493
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: And you're right too, Like jokes you might say as

1494
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: a position coach or a coordinator might hit a little

1495
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: differently to an athlete. But if you're saying a joke

1496
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: as a head coach, like the athlete could be driving

1497
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: home like fuck does he think? I'm just like you're

1498
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: in your own head, But if he gives you something positive.

1499
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: Can remember Shanahan one time he came up all interception machine.

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Speaker 1: This is like my rookie year. I had had two

1501
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: interceptions in a practice. I just remember just riding on

1502
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: Cloud nine thinking, like, you know, the head ball coach

1503
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: noticed me, you know. Yeah, so it's got to be

1504
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: like interesting knowing that your words do carry like a

1505
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: different weight to that part is everybody.

1506
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, if I walked in one day, I walked into

1507
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 8: talked to one of the assistant coaches like I normally

1508
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 8: would like when I was a coordinator and I'm kind

1509
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 8: of busting balls, but I kind of see like the

1510
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 8: reaction on his face was like, oh, what like to

1511
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 8: do something wrong, I'm buying in trouble, And I was like, Oh,

1512
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 8: I probably shouldn't. I probably need to probably need to

1513
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 8: tone that one down, and yeah, make it, make it

1514
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 8: not feel.

1515
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: So tone it down or tell whoever that is, don't

1516
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: be so soft. Yeah, we're having a good time. It's

1517
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: gonna be all right.

1518
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: Jay would be talking about me making plays in space.

1519
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 1: I would literally just beg man, I know the front

1520
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: office though, the whole coaching stuff must think I just

1521
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: can't tackle in space.

1522
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 2: But in your head about everything, he just said that joke, Like,

1523
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 2: I know, I don't. I don't think people understand how

1524
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: much mental warfare goes on between players and coaches. No,

1525
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if you all try to do mental warfare.

1526
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 8: But I just don't. I'd rather not. I prefer not

1527
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 8: to do that.

1528
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: Which is so difficult though, because you're right, like the

1529
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: words of a head coach, when you say anything like

1530
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: a noline coaches due, you could easily write that off

1531
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: at whatever the head coaches it to you. You're calling

1532
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: your girlfriend, your wife, it's two family members, Like he

1533
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: said this, Like what do you think good, bad or ugly?

1534
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: You're doing whatever you can.

1535
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: Tire off season, you're working on that one thing that

1536
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: was kind of said, right and rain forever.

1537
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 8: And then as a as as a head coach, it

1538
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 8: might even he might not even have thought twice about it,

1539
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 8: might have just been like an in passing comment. Yeah,

1540
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, you're just like you just

1541
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 8: all in your head about whatever it was that was said,

1542
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 8: and the head coach might have forgot even said it.

1543
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about having fun. What's your stance on

1544
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 2: rookie shows?

1545
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 8: You love it about them, You're about them, about them

1546
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 8: pro rookie show, however, yeah is you're twenty twenty fours

1547
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 8: A but the show there's there's have not been the

1548
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 8: recentokie shows that I've been around, subpar. Need the rookies

1549
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 8: need a little help from some guys out there in

1550
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 8: the world that know what a rookie show is supposed

1551
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 8: to look like. And uh, I've just not been not

1552
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 8: been impressed with some of the things. They're just not funny. Yeah,

1553
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 8: and there's nothing worse than going Like rookies ship, you're

1554
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 8: amped up, like I can't wait to see who they

1555
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 8: who do they go after? Yeah, it's like they're kind

1556
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 8: of they get scared. You can't be scared. You should

1557
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 8: know as good as anybody.

1558
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, you let me sit around

1559
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: training camp for a couple of weeks.

1560
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 8: You'll you'll have a few down impressions.

1561
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, get some manurisms of yours and I'll just go

1562
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: after you.

1563
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: I'll just go Yeah, going after the head ball coach

1564
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: is the best thing to do as a rookie by far,

1565
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: but it's also the scariest thing to do as a rookie.

1566
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 8: Also true, you.

1567
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: Gotta find that sweet balance being good graces with you,

1568
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: but also find all the possibly can.

1569
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 8: But if, if you can get a good rookie show

1570
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 8: is maybe one of the better, one of the finer

1571
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 8: things in life that you set the.

1572
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: Tone training camp.

1573
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's at the ending though, like you're like,

1574
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 2: everyone's kind of excited to get out of there. This

1575
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: is going to set the tone for the first game

1576
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 2: of the season. Yeah, all together for the last time

1577
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: before cuts. What's we're going to.

1578
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: Get If any rookies are watching this study Coach Callahan

1579
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: and go after him during the Rookie Show.

1580
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: Have to have to have to like go too hard,

1581
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: like make it the roast of Tom Brady, go to

1582
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:20,440
Speaker 2: the family.

1583
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 8: Just just lay it all out there and just just

1584
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 8: hope the reaction is good.

1585
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.

1586
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, who are, in your opinion,

1587
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: the funnier guys on the team.

1588
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 8: I'm still getting to know. I'm getting to know more personalities.

1589
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 8: Is that as the days go by? It sure seems

1590
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 8: like arden Key's got enough personality for everybody, which is great.

1591
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 8: I love it. I enjoy the personality part, Like I

1592
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 8: love guys that got something to them and make it

1593
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 8: fun like that's that's awesome. I love when guys feel

1594
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 8: like they can beat themselves. Arden's probably the one that

1595
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 8: stands out the most. Taj Spears has got a good's

1596
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 8: got a good kind of a He's quiet, but he's

1597
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 8: got a little personality that pops up every now on again.

1598
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 8: Still trying to figure out which offensive lineman's got it.

1599
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 8: You know, they're so they're there. Every day is like

1600
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 8: a new day for them. Right now with with Coach Bi,

1601
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 8: I don't know if personality but uh, there's some guys

1602
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 8: I think that are that are candidates for it, but

1603
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 8: generally tends to be the defensive guys that have the

1604
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 8: most personality and then they're at least afraid to show it.

1605
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 8: So I think that there might be a few of

1606
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 8: those guys. But I'm hoping that some of these rookies

1607
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 8: come with something good in August.

1608
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what they got to be the most

1609
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: focused on, Like playbook comes second to the Rookie Show.

1610
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: To make sure that you have that rookies entertainer to

1611
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 2: make the ball club entertainment. Yeah, entertainment.

1612
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 8: We're an entertainment business exactly.

1613
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: With being the head coach for the first time and

1614
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: taking the first team meeting, addressing the team, what are

1615
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: the nerves like, because every head coach I've ever.

1616
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 8: Had, it's a lot. There's there's some nerves in there,

1617
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 8: for sure, I bet, because you want to make you

1618
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 8: want to make a good impression where and again, we've

1619
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 8: had like twelve team meetings since the first one. So

1620
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 8: like the the novelty does wear off, like after you

1621
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 8: get through the first one, but that first one you

1622
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 8: spend a ton of time thinking about and you just

1623
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 8: want to make sure that when you come in there

1624
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 8: that the guys look at you and go, yeah, I

1625
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 8: like this guy. I'm I'm willing to listen as you

1626
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 8: guys know. You can come in here sometimes and maybe

1627
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 8: the first one rubs you the wrong way and you're

1628
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 8: kind of like, I don't know about this cat, you know,

1629
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 8: like yeah, yeah, And so that's you just want to

1630
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,839
Speaker 8: make an impression good enough to where you've bought everyone's

1631
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 8: attention for another week, you know, right, and hopefully they can.

1632
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: See you make sure has the same facial expression as

1633
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 1: the first time.

1634
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 8: You know, you're not losing the crowd, right, And I

1635
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 8: try to be my team meeting, they try to be

1636
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 8: to the point. You know, I don't.

1637
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

1638
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 8: I'm not a preacher, you know.

1639
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't.

1640
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 8: I don't need to. But I do have messaging that

1641
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 8: I want to get across, and so I spend a

1642
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 8: lot of time thinking about the messaging and what I'm

1643
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 8: going to say, and hopefully that in a in a

1644
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 8: very short eight to ten minutes, I can convey whatever

1645
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 8: that is for the day. And I only have one

1646
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 8: a week, so I don't overdo it. Yeah, nobody wants

1647
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 8: nobody wants to hear me talk that much. I know that.

1648
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: And the fall, you only have one a week in

1649
01:10:59,200 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: the fall.

1650
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 8: In the seasons arts, it'll be a Wednesday and a

1651
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 8: Friday Wednesday, or Friday Wednesday and Thursday to the rest

1652
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 8: of the squad. Yeah, Thursdays is the own day. And

1653
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 8: then you have something night before, which can be sometimes

1654
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 8: the shortest two minutes, or you may go a little

1655
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 8: longer if it's a depending on the mood of the

1656
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 8: team and the and the game you're getting ready to play.

1657
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 8: But try to try to limit the amount of times

1658
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 8: I have to go preach in front of everybody.

1659
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: What kind of coach are you? Night before a game, dude?

1660
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like, are.

1661
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: We watching a movie scene?

1662
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 8: I got that.

1663
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: I love something like what what's your go tos bro?

1664
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 8: I very much try to keep like the pulse of

1665
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 8: like what we might which might need for that week.

1666
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 8: You know. I did something kind of similar with A

1667
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 8: in Cincinnati on Saturday mornings. I would do this tie

1668
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 8: in of the game plan and I would mix in

1669
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 8: whatever messaging I thought was, you know, might hit home.

1670
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 1: Give an example like this messaging, Yeah, this movie scene?

1671
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 8: If it's no I used actually used quite a bit

1672
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 8: of The Man the Arena documentary one year. I kind

1673
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 8: of took pieces of it over the course of the season,

1674
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 8: and then like every other week I might have something

1675
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 8: from that that because there was just so many good

1676
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 8: things from that documentary. I thought about, like what a

1677
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 8: championship team would feel like, and so I try to

1678
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 8: use as many mediums as I can to help convey

1679
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 8: whatever message I'd be trying to convey. And I even

1680
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 8: do that now. I had one even for a rookie meeting.

1681
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 8: There's this clip on the internet with there's a ball

1682
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 8: boy a handful of years ago one of the soccer teams.

1683
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 8: I think it might have been like Tottenham, where this

1684
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 8: ball boy is like super dialed into his job and

1685
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 8: he gets the ball. It's on a throwing but the

1686
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 8: ball comes out of bounds and he has one in

1687
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 8: his hands and he's just his job is to get

1688
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 8: it to that guy as quick as possible. Well, he

1689
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 8: jumps out of his seat, tosses the ball to the guy.

1690
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 8: They throw it in on like a fast break, and

1691
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 8: they score because they catch team in transition because ball

1692
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 8: boys like on top of his shit. Yeah, you probably

1693
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 8: say it was viral and it was viral, but it's

1694
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 8: it's it's out there. And I showed it to the

1695
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 8: rookies and I was like, this is like talk about

1696
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 8: finding a role and doing it well. Like here's just

1697
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 8: ten year old ball boy or thirteen year old bah

1698
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 8: boy that knows that if I do my job really well,

1699
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 8: it's gonna help us. And yeah, that's it.

1700
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 2: Don't They bring them to the locker room after this. Yeah,

1701
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 2: they give him like a jersey.

1702
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, and so things like things like that. It's wild.

1703
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 8: It was, I mean, it's.

1704
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1705
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 8: And then and then manager goes over like look at

1706
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 8: how fast and then transitioned right, balls in his hand,

1707
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 8: he's running, they're on sides and then he ends up

1708
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 8: with a hitting a man transition for a score, and

1709
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 8: like I think it was a huge game too. So

1710
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 8: then the manager's tapping them up and like things like that,

1711
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 8: if I can anything I can find, I use quotes

1712
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 8: some guys in the NBA. I've used Steph Curry, anything

1713
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 8: that reinforces the message. Like I told, I showed the

1714
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 8: rookies that, and it was like, look, man, find whatever

1715
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 8: your role is, wherever they whatever's asked of you, like

1716
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 8: make it the most important thing. And if you have

1717
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 8: a chance to make a play, then you make the play.

1718
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 8: That's how you get recognized. And so it's stuff like that.

1719
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 8: I can fire and brimstone it pretty good when I

1720
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 8: want to, but I try to save those in my

1721
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 8: back pocket form yeah, for when you really they need it.

1722
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: When you talk about playing the Tennessee Titans held like

1723
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 2: it was effort, toughness and they are very well coached. Yes,

1724
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: what are the core values you're seeking to bring in

1725
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: with the Tennessee.

1726
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 8: Titans with this new wave, just in terms of like

1727
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 8: what what I want our team to look.

1728
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: For by the things you're going to preach, Like usually

1729
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 2: a lot of times, like coaches have like these are

1730
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 2: three things that we are going to be built on

1731
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 2: as our foundation as a team, Like as you being

1732
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: the head coach of Tesse Titans, Like what are those

1733
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: three pillars.

1734
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 8: Or yeah, there's there's there's a little bit of nuance

1735
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 8: to it, but the main one is we have three

1736
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 8: c's and it's character, communication, and connected team And like

1737
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 8: those are the three things that I think matter the

1738
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 8: most is that the character guys. Are they coachable, are

1739
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 8: they dependable? Are they positive? You know what I mean?

1740
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 8: Is there are those the guys you want to be

1741
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 8: around as a teammate.

1742
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: Uh.

1743
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 8: And then when you talk about the communication part, like

1744
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 8: the best teams in the league are great communicators, verbal, visual,

1745
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 8: you know, especially up front. I use that example all

1746
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 8: the time. It's like, you got to pick up blitz

1747
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 8: Is on third down to win in the NFL, and

1748
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 8: you got to be on the same page. And sometimes

1749
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 8: it's allowed to ship on the road and you're on

1750
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 8: a silent count, and how do you how do we

1751
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 8: get to calls communicate? How great are we communicating? It

1752
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 8: also falls into the off the field part too, like

1753
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 8: when something's going on, make sure we're community. If you're

1754
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 8: going to be late to a coach on me late

1755
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 8: to the team meeting and you called me at seven thirty,

1756
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 8: that's good communication. If the meeting's at eight, I got

1757
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 8: an issue. I need help taking care of it, right,

1758
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 8: we can work through that. If you tell me eight

1759
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 8: oh five after you show up to shoe at a

1760
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 8: car issue, that's bad communication.

1761
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: That's a fine.

1762
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 8: That's a fine. Yeah, So that's what we're looking not

1763
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 8: to do that. So those those three season, the last

1764
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 8: one I think I've kind of touched on is that

1765
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 8: being a connected team and being a part of something

1766
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 8: that's that's bigger than yourself. Like, again, everybody's got money,

1767
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 8: everybody's got players, there's talent in the league. Every game

1768
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 8: comes down to one possession most of the time. And

1769
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 8: what's the separator And to me, it's the teams that

1770
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,759
Speaker 8: when you look at them, you feel it when they play,

1771
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 8: You're like, man, those dudes are playing for each other,

1772
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 8: like you feel it. And you guys have been on

1773
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 8: those teams, you played against those teams, You're like like, damn,

1774
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 8: these guys are on top of it and you feel

1775
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 8: it from their sideline, you feel it from the energy

1776
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 8: when they make a play like that's those are the

1777
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 8: things that you want to see. And I think the

1778
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 8: football parts are perrequisite, like you got to be able

1779
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 8: to be detailed and have discipline. That stuff is that's

1780
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 8: like not negotiable and that's expected. These are those things.

1781
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 8: The character, the communication and being a connected team are

1782
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 8: things that I think make the difference when all that

1783
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 8: other stuff is equal.

1784
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that we talked about, uh the

1785
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: gun slingers with Stafford, Manning, Levis and Burrow, But I

1786
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: don't want to go. I don't want to not bring

1787
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: up Browning last year getting thrown into the fire in

1788
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: a very high pressure situation. Yeah, talk about him a

1789
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: little bit, because I feel like you it's like when

1790
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 1: that happened, it's like, well the Bengals, they're out of it. Yeah,

1791
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: but you guys, you know, obviously you didn't didn't win

1792
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl or anything. Yeah, there was like zero pain.

1793
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 8: We were in it.

1794
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys were in it right there until the end. Like,

1795
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: talk about talk about Browning a little bit.

1796
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 8: Man, what a what a what a story? Really? I mean,

1797
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 8: he's we we we stole him off the practice squad

1798
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 8: before we played Minnesota in twenty twenty one, and we

1799
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,839
Speaker 8: brought him in too, ultimately sort of flush him for information.

1800
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,879
Speaker 8: You know, they cut the quarterback loose.

1801
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: We bring them the water board him, get him out

1802
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: of there.

1803
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 8: When he came in and we're like, oh, this this guy,

1804
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 8: I think is you know, we like this tape. And

1805
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 8: obviously we didn't bring him in because just for that

1806
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 8: we thought he was a good player. But but that's

1807
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 8: just how the league works. You cut guys loose. And

1808
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 8: we were playing in Week one, so we signed him

1809
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 8: and he comes in. He starts like like, Wow, this

1810
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 8: guy's really smart. And then he's a little bit undersized,

1811
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 8: and he doesn't look he's not like a outwardly great

1812
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 8: looking athlete, and you're like, all right, is this can

1813
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 8: this guy play at all? And we weren't sure. And

1814
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 8: he starts practicing and you're like, does some things that

1815
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,919
Speaker 8: you like, you can play on time, he can process,

1816
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 8: and so we just sort of kept him and he

1817
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 8: developed and he did a really nice job. And he

1818
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 8: was with us for I think two and a half

1819
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 8: years up to the chance to play, and he never

1820
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 8: really got to play. Played a little bit of the

1821
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 8: preseason and it was like, all right, well, Jake's gonna play.

1822
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 8: Let's see, let's see what the guy's got. But we

1823
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 8: felt really confident that he would perform well because he

1824
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 8: works his ass off. He studies like crazy. And then

1825
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 8: when you look back at his career, he started for

1826
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 8: four years at Washington, they went to a rose boy.

1827
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 8: He was a good college football player, yeah, and he's

1828
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 8: got all the makeup that would make you a good

1829
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 8: player in the NFL. And he went out there, man,

1830
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 8: and he played awesome in a situation where it's hard

1831
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 8: to play like, you know, every the franchise quarterback gets

1832
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 8: hurt and like everybody's spirits are down. All of a sudden,

1833
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 8: Jake Go's out there and guys were like, oh, fuck,

1834
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 8: yeah we can do this, you know what I mean?

1835
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 8: Like yeah, like I'm not out of Yeah, we're not

1836
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 8: out of Let's go and h And he brought some

1837
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 8: some life back into the team. And I give him

1838
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 8: a ton of credit because he was really open about

1839
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 8: what was good and what was bad, like, hey, don't

1840
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 8: call that play. I don't like this play. Here's the

1841
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 8: things that I need to play.

1842
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: Like.

1843
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 8: He was very vocal about what he felt like he

1844
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 8: could succeed with. And that's a ton of credit goes

1845
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 8: to him because you know, when you're in a position

1846
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 8: as a player, like you're like, oh, if I say this,

1847
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 8: they might tell me that they can't.

1848
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: No, you won't do it.

1849
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,759
Speaker 8: You'd be afraid to say something you want to. You

1850
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 8: just you just want to do what's asked of you.

1851
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 8: And he goes in the first Pittsburgh game and we

1852
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 8: were kind of like, are you sure you feel good

1853
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 8: about this? And he's like, yeah, just call the game

1854
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 8: how you called it for Joe, I'll operate I'll play well.

1855
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: And he didn't.

1856
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 8: And he came back to the next week and is like,

1857
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 8: don't call this, don't call this, don't call this. Call

1858
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 8: these things. Give me more peer progression, give me a

1859
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 8: chance to work through a read, find me some things.

1860
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 8: And he was like, all of a sudden, it was like, oh,

1861
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 8: not thank you. This is what we need from you,

1862
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 8: and we'll do whatever it is you need to do

1863
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 8: to feel like you can play well. And so a

1864
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 8: ton of credit to him for being able to say that,

1865
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 8: but he went out there and showed that he's a

1866
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 8: legitimate quarterback in the NFL. And when I got the job,

1867
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 8: he was joking, He's like, you know, it's he was

1868
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 8: kind of messed up. He's like, I've gotten more guys

1869
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 8: have gotten the head jobs when I've played, and he's like,

1870
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 8: do people think I'm that shitty that I play well enough?

1871
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 8: And like it's now everyone's a great a great coach.

1872
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 8: And I'm like, I said, that's pretty backwards. I do agree,

1873
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 8: but hilarious, bro, yeah, because it was almost like, you know,

1874
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 8: when you get hired and everybody we're hyping everything else.

1875
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, Joe b went down and they

1876
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: were still contenders with Jake Browning. Not like shitting on Jake,

1877
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: but you're like everything can still.

1878
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah, inadvertently you do. Yeah and uh and

1879
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 8: that's so we laughed about it. But but I do

1880
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 8: think he he deserves a ton of credit for how

1881
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 8: well he played. He's kind of a self made I mean,

1882
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 8: he's worked his he's worked his tail off to get

1883
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 8: in position to when you get that opportunity to go

1884
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 8: to go play well. And he's gonna play in the

1885
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 8: NFL for a long time because of it. And I

1886
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 8: love the dude. I think he's outstanding. He's got a

1887
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 8: great personality, and I was really happy for him that

1888
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 8: he had a chance to show his talents like that,

1889
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 8: and and he was open and honest enough with us

1890
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 8: to help us put him in a position and that's

1891
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 8: ultimately our job.

1892
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1893
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, but he's a good but he is a he's

1894
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 8: a good football player.

1895
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, play him on the Titan someday.

1896
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 8: Who knows he's he's got.

1897
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: You never be an option.

1898
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 8: Thanks in your contract for like a year or two

1899
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 8: two years I think for.

1900
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: Oh you know, yeah, you're very aware. Yeah, so you're

1901
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 2: saying those quarterback controversy in Cincinnati right now?

1902
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: Is that what you do?

1903
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 8: You know what? Absolutely big debates. Who's going to be

1904
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 8: not sure, who's gonna be might might be Joe, who knows.

1905
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: Who knows. It's the only time we'll tell him that. Hey, Hey,

1906
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: you guys doing listen to an audio right now?

1907
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: Huh?

1908
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,839
Speaker 2: Just driving to work or something like that and joining yourself.

1909
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,280
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1910
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,040
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1911
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,440
Speaker 2: Some nicotine man. And I know those big tobacco corporations

1912
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,439
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1913
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,640
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1914
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,960
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1915
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: chipper and up there and feeling great all the time.

1916
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: I'm also looking for an opportunity to help out the

1917
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,840
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1918
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Speaker 2: in my hand. And you can't see me right now,

1919
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: but just listen to my voices I serenate you and

1920
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,280
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1921
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,880
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1922
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,160
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1923
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Speaker 2: you have a coffee in one hand and you take

1924
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 2: two Lucy Espresso breakers and you pop those in the

1925
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 2: bottom lip. Brother, you're the rest of your day is

1926
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Speaker 2: going to If it was going to be a five

1927
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: out of a ten, guess what not to six out

1928
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 2: of a ten. If it's a nine out of ten,

1929
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Speaker 2: work or going home wherever you're at right now. I

1958
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Speaker 2: love you, guys, see you. You talk about personalities of players,

1959
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: and now more than ever, it seems like the landscape

1960
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: of NFL is changing with all the ni all stuff

1961
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: in college. Guys are coming into the league with money already.

1962
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: Do you see that change in personalities as new guys

1963
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 2: start to come in, Yeah.

1964
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 8: You do. It's different. I mean is it is a

1965
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 8: little bit different now, Let's not pretend like guys weren't

1966
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 8: coming in the league with money before.

1967
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: Right, Not at UCLA obviously not definitely, certainly not there.

1968
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe not in Nebraska either, but unless Michigan, Michigan.

1969
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,959
Speaker 8: I don't know. I feel like that's I wish, Yeah.

1970
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: I wish we had that sec treatment. I got a

1971
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: free meal once. I bring it up all the time.

1972
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 2: One time I got a free meal. One time. That

1973
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 2: fired me up.

1974
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 8: You get like one hundred dollars handshake somewhere.

1975
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 2: No, never, I never got offered a dime, and it

1976
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 2: bugs me because I would love the opportunity.

1977
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 8: To take somebody's money.

1978
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I never hear.

1979
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 1: About is they just put money like on a turnover

1980
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: on the sideline.

1981
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: You were about a coach.

1982
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: A thousand, and then another coach would match it, and

1983
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 1: then in college and Sue would get it. And it's like, oh,

1984
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: all right, yeah.

1985
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: Because you know Sue was getting paid. You know something's happening.

1986
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 2: But Stafford, he I heard stories about him being at

1987
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 2: Georgia and be there'd be five hundred thousand dollars in

1988
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: his mailbox for him to stay for another year.

1989
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 8: Yes, I mean, those those are all you hear those

1990
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,919
Speaker 8: stories all the time, Georgia, right, yeah, because.

1991
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: I get him and Bradford mixed up sometimes.

1992
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: If you had to guess, would you think that's true?

1993
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 8: I mean I think, I think. I think I think

1994
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 8: some of it gets there's they're probably like fishing stories,

1995
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 8: like the fish gets bigger as the years ago by.

1996
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 8: I think there's probably some of it. But crazy, Yeah,

1997
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 8: I'm sure at all. I'm sure they're I mean, they're

1998
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 8: not made up, like I'm sure those stories all happened

1999
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 8: pretty regularly, I would imagine. But the kids coming in now,

2000
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 8: I mean, you it's there. It's a different style, Like

2001
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 8: they've already been paid, you know, so this isn't the

2002
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 8: first time they've had money. And I think that that

2003
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 8: part is is unique, that the money thing isn't new.

2004
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 8: But what is new for them is that now they

2005
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 8: can't transfer and they are under contract, and I think

2006
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 8: that's a different mindset for them, Like they're used to

2007
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 8: being able to kind of really move, you know, wherever

2008
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 8: they want. College football transfer two three and nothing wrong

2009
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 8: with transferent, but there's it's a different mindset. Like when

2010
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 8: things are hard in the NFL, you're under contract and

2011
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 8: you're gonna get cut. You're gonna figure it out. And

2012
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 8: I think that's where it changes for guys, is that

2013
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 8: they're not used to that that binding agreement that doesn't

2014
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 8: really exist in college football anymore, and that they have

2015
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 8: to play well to get money, you know, like that's.

2016
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: The other In the NFL, they come up and ask

2017
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 2: for trades all the time. Yeah, your boy in Cincinnati,

2018
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 2: he said he wasn't getting paid enough, the Henderson, I mean,

2019
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: it's news that he asked for trade, public public knowledge

2020
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 2: clad airing the boy out. But you are constructually obligate.

2021
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 2: You publly should think about that a little bit.

2022
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 8: But I think there that is the difference, though, is

2023
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 8: that there's no like I do like there's a resilience

2024
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 8: factor to maybe some of how some of these kids

2025
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 8: have come to college where the minute they don't like something,

2026
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 8: they leave, and the adjustment period comes when they get

2027
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 8: to the NFL and it's like, well I don't like this,

2028
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 8: and it's like sorry, you know, like you you don't

2029
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 8: have a choice. Like So that part, I think is

2030
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 8: where it changes. The money part I don't think has

2031
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 8: changed kids other than they just have more experience with money,

2032
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 8: and so you're not as concerned about maybe some of

2033
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 8: the things that a kid for the first time getting money.

2034
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 8: Some of these kids are been making money for four years, right, Yeah,

2035
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 8: paying taxes, and you know that's not new for him.

2036
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2037
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 2: It almost might be a good thing actually that they're

2038
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 2: making a little bit of money in college.

2039
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, especially some of the the guys that are getting

2040
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 8: big money. You know, they're used to getting big money.

2041
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 8: They're probably getting big money because they're good players, and

2042
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 8: so they likely are going to get pretty good money

2043
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 8: when they get the NFL by their draft positions.

2044
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: So and hopefully have like the right teams kind of

2045
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: already kind of building and structured around themselves to make

2046
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 1: it an easy transition. You would hope.

2047
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 8: I think there is a little bit of a uh,

2048
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 8: there's some there's probably some predatory opportunities out there for

2049
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 8: guys and some of these guys in college that don't

2050
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 8: know anything, and when you're talking about putting people around you,

2051
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 8: you just hope that they're making good decisions with it.

2052
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta have a team, Yes, you have a team

2053
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 2: that checks everybody. Yeah, Derrick Henry, Yeah, long time time

2054
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 2: and going to be obviously in the Ring of Honor.

2055
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: Eventually, No, that.

2056
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 2: Was there a conversation with you and RAN. You have

2057
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 2: to try to reach out and say, hey, let's do

2058
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: this one more year.

2059
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 8: They had touched base, you know, RAN had a relationship

2060
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 8: with them, obviously being there for a year, and they

2061
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 8: went back and forth on what the money would look like.

2062
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 8: And we just knew we had the holes that we

2063
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 8: had to fill. The money would be allocated initially elsewhere,

2064
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 8: and the running back market went pretty good. I mean

2065
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 8: there's some guys that got paid. It was higher money

2066
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 8: than I think maybe we had projected to start across

2067
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 8: the league for the running back position. And that's good

2068
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 8: for those guys, that's great. And so when you get

2069
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 8: into those positions where you know we're trying to fill

2070
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 8: multiple holes in a free agency period, it's like where

2071
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 8: do you want to allocate the money and how do

2072
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 8: you want to spend it? And I think that I

2073
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 8: would have been absolutely open to Derek coming back. I

2074
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 8: think it felt like Derek was ready for something new.

2075
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 8: And then the money part when it happened. Those conversations

2076
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 8: go back and forth, and yeah, ultimately it was for

2077
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 8: both parties, probably the best decision at the end of

2078
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 8: the day for him and for us. But I mean

2079
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 8: he is the He was the Tennessee Titans for the

2080
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 8: better part of the last six years, probably seven years.

2081
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 8: Where I mean, that's what you thought. You got to Tennessee,

2082
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 8: you thought of Derrick Henry and look forward to the

2083
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 8: day when he his name gets to go up in

2084
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 8: that stadium because he's earned that right. Yeah, to be

2085
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,440
Speaker 8: up there with the greats. He's he's phenomenal.

2086
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 1: Getting to hang out with you at the facility and

2087
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: asking if you'd come on the bus. So she started

2088
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: to learn that you were a bit of a STOOLI

2089
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: in your younger days.

2090
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 8: I was, Yeah, I was. I was.

2091
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: I always know that you're on the bus. Did you

2092
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: hit the group chat up?

2093
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 8: Hey, I didn't tell anybody. Yeah, that was gonna be

2094
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 8: there's I got some old from my high school buddies

2095
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 8: will be pretty pretty fired up. Yeah that's pretty far.

2096
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

2097
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was. I I feel like I was on

2098
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 8: the I was on the I was on the front

2099
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 8: end of the barstool experience. I mean, it was back

2100
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 8: when it was just a handful of those guys blogging,

2101
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 8: when it was just the blog it was it was

2102
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 8: a two thousands.

2103
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 1: The blackout party is that what it was called.

2104
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 8: Other my brother and my sisters went and went to

2105
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 8: a couple of those blackout parties. They're they're only my brother,

2106
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 8: only eighteen months younger than me, and they would always

2107
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 8: tell me about the blackout parties and you see the

2108
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 8: videos online. It was it was a it was a

2109
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,679
Speaker 8: different time on the internet, that's for sure. But yeah,

2110
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 8: I remember. I mean those guys were obviously Big Cat

2111
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 8: and and Dave and those guys. I've been reading those

2112
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 8: things for probably pretty close to when they from when

2113
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 8: they started, and laughed for a lot of laughed a

2114
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 8: lot for a long time reading that stuff. So, uh yeah,

2115
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 8: I'm I'm a I'm a stueleie. I've been. I've been

2116
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 8: one for a really long time. I feel like it's

2117
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 8: got to be a weird part that, like I'm be

2118
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 8: forty years old in June, and I think there's like

2119
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 8: this whole generation of like middle aged stoolies that were there,

2120
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 8: no question. I mean, it's like, man, it's been theyve

2121
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 8: been doing this a long time. It's yeah, like every.

2122
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: Time I see Bake Cat, he's got more and more

2123
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 2: gray hair.

2124
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 8: You just I can relate, I can relate.

2125
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, who was your favorite who's your favorite personality? Well

2126
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: whole up before you did.

2127
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 2: Maybe we should tear talk this for him. Okay, are

2128
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 2: you are you a familiar tear talk?

2129
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 8: No?

2130
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: So tier talk is we're just based. It's a ranking system.

2131
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're gonna start with three and work us

2132
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: up to one. You can give as much context or

2133
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: as those context as you want. The tier talk will

2134
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 2: be your favorite barstool personalities.

2135
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 1: All right, will be got there?

2136
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you start with three.

2137
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 8: Start with three you can.

2138
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Give an honorable mention to if you're having a hard time.

2139
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,600
Speaker 8: Okay, I mean I would probably be the originals of

2140
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 8: the guys that I'm probably talking about. I would say,

2141
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 8: I would say my three. Okay, three would be I'll

2142
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 8: probably never be invited back here, But three would probably

2143
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 8: be Dave probably never let me back here.

2144
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 2: That's because he's too low or Dave gets gets mad

2145
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 2: at us a lot.

2146
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: Both.

2147
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 8: I'm a big I'm a big I'm a big supporter,

2148
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 8: so I want to appreciate it. I would say two

2149
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 8: would be KFC and loveless and reading KFC's blogs back

2150
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 8: in the day, and then one would be big Cat.

2151
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 8: I thought Big Cat was his humor and my humor

2152
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 8: were very similar, and so it was going, Bro, he is,

2153
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 8: he's a machine man. I don't know how he does.

2154
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 8: I don't know how he keeps it's I mean, he's

2155
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 8: like he's like Internet Kobe or something like. He just

2156
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 8: got this.

2157
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,640
Speaker 1: That his recall incredibility.

2158
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: You'll have a conversation with him and four years later

2159
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: he'll remember it. There was a clip that came out

2160
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 2: yesterday about him and KB on the YAT and it

2161
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 2: was back in October about him putting a razor blade

2162
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 2: in some of kb's food and eventually he's gonna give

2163
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 2: it to him with the calendar year, and he did

2164
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:37,839
Speaker 2: it yesterday.

2165
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: He's like an elephant, Bro, he is.

2166
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 2: He really is an elephant. I thought that was so

2167
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:43,440
Speaker 2: he actually.

2168
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 1: Truth be told. He's got a question that he proposed

2169
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: to you.

2170
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 2: Is this the Is this the one?

2171
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the one that we don't.

2172
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 7: Like see PC the BC. First of all, thank you

2173
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 7: for being a stoolian supporting us all these years. I

2174
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 7: got a question for you on taking a piss while

2175
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 7: I do this. I got a question for you on

2176
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:07,480
Speaker 7: the bus.

2177
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 5: We'd love to have you on the show, and I

2178
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 5: was looking at the calendar, June twenty fifth, If you

2179
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 5: want to come to Chicago, we'd love to have you,

2180
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,440
Speaker 5: whole family, anyone.

2181
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 7: Wants to come up June twenty fifth, come to Chicago.

2182
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: We'll do an interview, we'll do the Gauntlet, We'll have

2183
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: a great time.

2184
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 5: So that's I guess My question is.

2185
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 2: Can you come to Chicago June twenty fifth and come

2186
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 2: on pmtant to some context.

2187
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: The context on that is our Beer Games Championships of

2188
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: the World is on June twenty fifth. He is, he's

2189
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,759
Speaker 1: on the list. He can't he's back out. He can't

2190
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: back out. He can't bas he has he can't back out. Yeah,

2191
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: and he's got this running bit happening right now that

2192
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: he can't back out. And since we've had to do

2193
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: a couple hurt we've had a couple bumps in the

2194
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,799
Speaker 1: road with the Beer Olympics, with the Beer Games. Sure,

2195
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: he likes to give the boys a hard time. So yeah,

2196
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: I guess he wants you to come on part of

2197
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 1: my take, which I'm sure that's a yes.

2198
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, June twenty fifth.

2199
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to. He's busy, busy.

2200
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: We also it's vacation time for y'all, too right, it

2201
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 2: is it is.

2202
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 8: I'm moving. I am moving in that very short time

2203
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 8: frame from Cincinnati finally down here. I'm living in a

2204
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 8: house by myself, in an empty house with a bed.

2205
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 8: That's the life, that college lifestyle.

2206
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:25,520
Speaker 2: The matches on the floor, wires everywhere, TV lifestyle.

2207
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 8: Sitting on like a folding chair to watch TV.

2208
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 2: You kind of do enjoy it a little bit. Huh.

2209
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 8: There's part of it that brings back to your roots,

2210
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 8: no doubt. But yeah, that might be a tough swing,

2211
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 8: but we can look into it.

2212
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 1: Maybe next off season, maybe next off the next off season,

2213
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: because they will take you out to Chicago and just

2214
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: let whoever your boys are. You heard him saying, whatever

2215
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: wants to come, you should come with an entire crew.

2216
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 2: And I'll say this about Chicago. Their HQ there is incredible.

2217
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 2: It's like a fantasy factory basketball. They have literally everything

2218
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 2: you want, basketball court, golf simulator, Chef Donnie and the

2219
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: corner will make you whatever you want. It's some of

2220
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: the best food you'll ever have. It's like the tidest

2221
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 2: facility with out the indoor, without the football field.

2222
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. It is.

2223
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 8: It is very cool.

2224
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 2: It's very cool. You'd really enjoy it. Cool.

2225
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 8: My you know, my whole family is from Chicago.

2226
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: Really yeah.

2227
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 8: My dad's born and raised his South Side of Chicago.

2228
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 8: My grandfather was a Chicago cop. Okay, but old Irish

2229
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 8: Chicago cop.

2230
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2231
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 2: Nice. Are you you grew up a Bears fan?

2232
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 8: I did grow up a Bears fan until obviously I

2233
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 8: became a fan of my dad wherever we moved to.

2234
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,799
Speaker 8: But when my dad was coaching in college at University Wisconsin,

2235
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 8: that was like the Bears were you know, he still

2236
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 8: I did still watches like every White Sox game. Oh really,

2237
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, not very good.

2238
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 2: It runs deep in Chicago.

2239
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 8: Deep is deep. So my whole family, my everybody, my mom,

2240
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 8: mom's from the North Side, the whole family from Chicago.

2241
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Were you just a massive fan of your dad growing up? Oh?

2242
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah. He was always the man always. I mean

2243
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 8: it's you know, yeah, through you know.

2244
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 2: Years where you're like he doesn't know everything.

2245
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 8: I never I know I did not really? Oh yeah,

2246
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 8: I mean, god, I need some not I mean so well,

2247
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 8: I'll say this like my dad was. My dad is

2248
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 8: an intimatemidating personality, and I was the oldest of four,

2249
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 8: and so I didn't ever have It was like I

2250
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 8: was scared to death to make a mistake because I

2251
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 8: you know, you ever hear him, yeall, he got a

2252
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 8: real loud voice and it's intimidating. Yeah, And I did

2253
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 8: not want to get I didn't want to get in trouble.

2254
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 8: It's all my friends be like, dude, you got to

2255
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 8: Like I had like a ten thirty curfew in high

2256
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 8: school for a while, and all my boys, you gotta rebel,

2257
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 8: don't you can't. They're like they're trying. Well, you know,

2258
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 8: it's like, I mean, ten thirties kind of early to

2259
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 8: that is it's early.

2260
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: But this is weekend curfew.

2261
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, this is all the time curf Like this

2262
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 8: is yeah.

2263
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 2: Seven old lights. Yeah, the game's over, You're going home home.

2264
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 8: No parties for me, none.

2265
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 2: That's the best. We don't forget that.

2266
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

2267
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 8: But so that was the I was scared to death

2268
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 8: of Like I was not rebellious to my dad because

2269
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 8: I knew I watched my dad coach these guys for

2270
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 8: all these years and how he his demeanor and his style.

2271
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 8: I was like, I don't I don't need to cross that.

2272
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 8: I don't need those problems.

2273
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 1: Growing up, were you like, were you a troublemaker or

2274
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: a straight shooter? The whole time?

2275
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 8: I was pretty straight shooter.

2276
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2277
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 8: I had enough. I had enough, probably enough mischief, but

2278
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 8: not anything serious enough to really get in trouble.

2279
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 2: What is the most devious thing you ever did as

2280
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 2: a young team? Probably just tp a house, Probably egged

2281
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 2: the house. That's a that's his next step. That's egging

2282
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 2: is one thing.

2283
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: He'll throw the toilet paper at the tree, but the

2284
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: minutes might gets out of carton and eggs. He's probably thinking,

2285
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: I want to He's the first.

2286
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 8: One for me. Yeah, I can't go that far. Yeah, Yeah,

2287
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 8: that was It was nothing more like nothing more than that.

2288
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 8: It was never anything.

2289
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 2: I had fun, classic boys being boys stuff.

2290
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: Do you ever get in big trouble?

2291
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 8: I did? Yes, I did one, and I was like

2292
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 8: middle school probably m hmm. I I can't really want

2293
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 8: to tell the story, but I am because it's funny

2294
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 8: and whatever.

2295
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

2296
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 8: When I was in middle school, we me and my

2297
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 8: little neighbor next door, my buddy, I used to run

2298
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 8: around all the time. We wesed. We decided we were

2299
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 8: gonna make a torch parents weren't home. We run on

2300
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 8: so we wrap all this toilet paper on a stick

2301
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 8: and dip it in gasoline and we're like swinging it around.

2302
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 8: We're middle school what I gave and we're swinging it

2303
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 8: around and we're having a hell of the time. And

2304
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 8: we're in these woods behind our house, and we try

2305
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 8: to be responsible. We had water, put put the put

2306
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 8: the torch in the water.

2307
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 1: You know.

2308
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 8: It's and and I look out like an hour later,

2309
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 8: and nobody my parents were home. I look out like

2310
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 8: an hour later, and the entire for the entire force

2311
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 8: is on fire behind our house. I mean it was

2312
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:26,480
Speaker 8: like fire department. I mean it's like it's like flame. Yeah,

2313
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 8: and we you know, we didn't mean to obviously, but

2314
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 8: but it's like there's you know, it's a patch of

2315
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 8: I mean it wasn't small. It wasn't like a whole

2316
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 8: fun but I mean there was trees on I mean,

2317
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 8: it was on fire. The fire warman had to come

2318
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 8: and put it out, and uh. And but at the

2319
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 8: time my parents weren't home. I was there, but I

2320
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 8: was home by myself, and the fire department came, they

2321
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 8: put it out, and they left, and I was like,

2322
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 8: I'm in the clear. They're never going to know. And

2323
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 8: so my buddy whose parents were home, they saw it

2324
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 8: and they put the clamps on him and he cracked.

2325
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 2: No, yeah, he cracked. He definitely boy cracked. Yeah, did

2326
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 2: you have a talk with him after my brother?

2327
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: You got it?

2328
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 8: Like, come on, man, how did you get him to crack?

2329
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 8: It's so easy because we were like relatively good kids. Like,

2330
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 8: it wasn't like he was. We weren't trying to do

2331
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 8: anything wrong.

2332
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 1: I think he was.

2333
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 8: But then so my parents know. And then my dad

2334
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 8: asked me on multiple occasions, hey, do you know anything

2335
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 8: about what happened back there behind the house? You Nope,

2336
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 8: no idea. I mean lied to his face, lied to

2337
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 8: his face, And I thought I was getting away with it,

2338
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 8: and little did I know, I was just getting set up.

2339
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 8: That was just he was just stringing me along, just waiting.

2340
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 8: And that was the most mad I think I've ever

2341
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 8: seen him, not because of what we did, but because

2342
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 8: I lied to him about and he gave me ample

2343
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 8: opportunities to tell him the truth, and I just stuck

2344
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 8: with it.

2345
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 1: So he did it a few different occasions, maybe the

2346
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: first time he let it pass. I'll see if he

2347
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: thinks about it a little bit more, old man, that's

2348
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: a vet move.

2349
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 2: That is a vet move.

2350
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:58,839
Speaker 8: So when you when you wonder why I probably wouldn't rebel.

2351
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 8: When I was in high school, I saw that and

2352
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 8: I was like, nope, no, thanks, No, I don't need

2353
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 8: those problems.

2354
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 2: That's a savvy dad move. My dad would go out

2355
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 2: of town in high school and he'd like, you're not

2356
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 2: all out in the house. I go to your mom

2357
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 2: session all in the house. And one time we had

2358
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: a party and I came home and I was like,

2359
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 2: you you've been in the house at all. I was

2360
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 2: like no, But he set up like T shirts and

2361
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 2: certain things in parts of the house. I was I

2362
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 2: was just a little bit dirty. But he remembered every

2363
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: spot he put it in, so if it was moved

2364
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: it all. When he got back, he know somebody was

2365
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 2: in the house. I folded. It was like ten people

2366
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: at the house too. It wasn't even a cool party.

2367
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 2: It was a kickback, kickback. But yeah, man, dads are

2368
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 2: good like that.

2369
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Billy ever get you? Oh yeah, yeahsage that one

2370
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: that comes to my mind. I think I've tolded before,

2371
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: but my parents ri ode of town because my brother

2372
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm a junior in high school. So my brother, he's

2373
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: a sophomore, absolute stud wrestler, he was. My parents said

2374
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 1: that I had to wrestle that year, be grounded all

2375
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 1: of winter. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad said it

2376
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: helped me in football, which there is truth the wrestling

2377
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 1: helping in football. Yeah, But my brother had a It

2378
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: was my it was my first week weekend, like on

2379
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 1: the squad and they're wrestling your boy JV junior and

2380
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 1: I thought it was so disrespectful. But brother, Yeah, my brother,

2381
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 1: who's a sophomore there, traveled out to Kansas City for

2382
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: this uh wrestling tournament for the varsity team. And so

2383
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm just back at the house by myself. So I throw,

2384
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, I throw a party, nice little banger, and

2385
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking it's ever clear. It's it's the cheapest of

2386
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 1: the cheap.

2387
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,839
Speaker 2: The most of the most, the plastic stuff.

2388
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, it was rowdy to where basically

2389
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 1: I had to be on the bus at like five

2390
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 1: point thirty in the morning the next morning to go

2391
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 1: to the JV wrestling tournament. And we were up all

2392
01:41:55,280 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: night and I mean we're you know, we did I driven,

2393
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: we take somebody home and drop them off there puking

2394
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 1: in the driveway. As we're dropping them off, f I'm like, hey,

2395
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: you gotta hurry, like we have to leave so I

2396
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 1: can make the bus. And I'm still sauced from the night,

2397
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 1: and uh, we're riding up. I'm trying to like get

2398
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 1: some sleep. It's like an hour and a half bus ride.

2399
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 1: And then I start texting the boys like I didn't

2400
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: clean anything up, and my parents are gonna get home

2401
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 1: before our bus gets back from the tournament. So just

2402
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: terrible planning on my part. So I'm texting like Logan

2403
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: and John and the boys. So I clean it up,

2404
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: and they did their absolute best. They got some stuff

2405
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 1: messed up, but they did what they could to clean

2406
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 1: up the place. Well. I get back, by the way,

2407
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: one the JV wrestling tournament did not get scored on hungover,

2408
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 1: so just destroyed. But I get back and dude, my

2409
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 1: mom finds this. There's a condom sitting out on the

2410
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 1: end table that was being played with because forty year

2411
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 1: old Virgin had came out and he was playing Aquaman

2412
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 1: on his hand with the condom and my boy was

2413
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 1: doing that. I mean, there was girls over and there's

2414
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: fun to be had, but that particular loss that we

2415
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: took was one that shouldn't have even been taken, you

2416
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it was not fun. It

2417
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 1: was not fun. My dad was one of those where

2418
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 1: it was the same thing. I never wanted to be

2419
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: in trouble by my parents. And I remember again another

2420
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 1: another night where we got where we got caught drinking

2421
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 1: and partying and stuff, and my parents came over and Logan,

2422
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: my buddy, he's like my best friend and his mom

2423
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: were pulling in the driveway and she's like, you guys

2424
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 1: want to have a fun party. Boys will have a

2425
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: party and just sit down on the grass. We're all

2426
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 1: like wind up sitting down like you know, Indian style,

2427
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 1: and all your parents are coming over. We got you

2428
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 1: motherckers type of thing. My dad comes over and Bro

2429
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: like you know your boys, got like tears in his eyes,

2430
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, Dad, I'm not going home, and he

2431
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 1: like takes his glasses off. He's on like the other

2432
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 1: side of the dining room table and we're in Logan's

2433
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,759
Speaker 1: house and he's like, son, you're coming home and starts

2434
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: like walking around and I just start like going around

2435
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: the table with it. Oh, Bro, but it was not good.

2436
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: It was We've had We've had some runnings back in

2437
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 1: the day in all and my dad it's always the

2438
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 1: same speech, like you got the world ahead of you,

2439
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: like you have at this point, I had like one

2440
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: offer from like Illinois. Yeah, a dad, that's a good

2441
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: call by dad, Illinois case stayed at the time, and

2442
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 1: he was like, you're gonna you're gonna mess this up,

2443
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 1: like you're gonna fuck this off. And but we had

2444
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 1: we had some running some stories that definitely come to

2445
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: my mind, and I'm like, fuck, the boys were in

2446
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 1: some situations. Now. You never want to piss off your parents.

2447
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 8: No, not not if you especially when you got one

2448
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 8: that's not one you want to mess with either.

2449
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, you know there's a story I told her.

2450
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 1: My dad He's like, you ever want to shot at

2451
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 1: the title? You just let me know. And he's like

2452
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: this close to him and he just doesn't blow me kiss,

2453
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 1: but he just goes and in my face and I'm like,

2454
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 1: all right, all right, dad, And you ever want a

2455
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 1: shot at the time A senior, Oh, a senior. You

2456
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 1: should have swung that, man, Bro, I don't there's a

2457
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 1: different now, I would you know out of respect. It

2458
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 1: would never happen. I would obviously take take advantage of

2459
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: him now, but dude, there was I mean, as long

2460
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 1: as you could have respect for an old man on

2461
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: beating your ass, he had every bit of it up.

2462
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you guys like I

2463
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 8: wouldn't be surprised like my dad could.

2464
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 2: So probably with my ass.

2465
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 1: You don't want to Bill, Bill?

2466
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 8: Might you think he would?

2467
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: Bill? But this, I mean yoga is don't sleep on yoga,

2468
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: but this man's a yoga at six am probably every morning.

2469
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, just zen Oh yeah Bill, Yeah, Bill Kellen. Yeah

2470
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 8: he can do the splits and handstands and stuff.

2471
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I I had no idea.

2472
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 8: Like I don't. You don't want to mess I wouldn't

2473
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 8: mess with him. Yeah I would.

2474
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Yeah, you know you're good. That's the

2475
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: thing too. With like Bill, Like you know, he carries

2476
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: this intimidating demeanor, but you know when he's saying something

2477
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 1: to you, he has he has your respect because you know,

2478
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 1: in his world he's putting in all of that work,

2479
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: not just in studying, but in lifestyle with the yoga

2480
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: and watching him prep all the way up until kickoff,

2481
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: like laying on his back and just like studying his

2482
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: notebook and writing down final notes. And he is the

2483
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 1: man like I've always had a lot of respect for Bill.

2484
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 8: I appreciate glad.

2485
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: I never got to you, never had to partake in

2486
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 1: his individual drills. But he always loved and the sled.

2487
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always loved the Bertha and Olga Olga.

2488
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2489
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 1: God did he create those.

2490
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, he invented the sled.

2491
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Do we invent the actual sled or actual sled?

2492
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 8: The sled that they were hitting, no ship, Yeah, that

2493
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 8: actual actual invention of the sled.

2494
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 2: Do we have as Yeah, this is a wild j

2495
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 2: C is a he that's a unit of a man. Yes,

2496
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 2: and he's being he got folded the first time he

2497
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 2: see him starting to figure it out, and they figured

2498
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 2: it out. There's no way anyone ever does good on

2499
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 2: that the first time.

2500
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: Never.

2501
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 8: No, And that's when my dad's laughing at him because

2502
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 8: they he bet him. Jasey's like, no, I got I'll

2503
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 8: get it, I'll move and my Dad's like.

2504
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Okay, just hands in his pockets.

2505
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, but yeah, they they invented that sled when he

2506
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 8: was in Washington.

2507
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 2: That's that's impressive. Right there resetting the hits.

2508
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 8: They call it taking another bite, So he takes another

2509
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 8: bite and gets going. But that sled he he worked

2510
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 8: with Ray Crowd, the company, and they they sort of

2511
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 8: developed it together and and made that that sled. The

2512
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 8: angles and the and the handles where your hands fit,

2513
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 8: and like just it feels more like what a defensive

2514
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 8: lineman feels like coming off the ball versus like the

2515
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 8: old squared up sleds.

2516
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2517
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, with j C drafting him, getting your first opportunity

2518
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 2: to get your hands on him a little bit, is

2519
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 2: there anything that surprised you at him that you do

2520
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: think that maybe he didn't have or is he.

2521
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 8: Has advertised as advertised? I mean, we felt like there

2522
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:41,480
Speaker 8: was there was two linemen that we felt like we're

2523
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:43,640
Speaker 8: worthy of top ten picks, and that's Joe Alton and

2524
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 8: JC and the two guys that we were like, either

2525
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 8: one of those guys will happily take yeah, if they're

2526
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 8: available to us. And thankfully j C was. And he's

2527
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 8: everything we thought he was gonna be. And he's got

2528
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 8: a super high ceiling because you just he's just got

2529
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 8: all these physical tools that you he doesn't even really

2530
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 8: know how to use. Them all yet, you know, but yeah,

2531
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 8: super talented, great kid, all the things you could want

2532
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 8: in an offensive lineman.

2533
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 2: Was there a fear for you him playing his whole

2534
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,480
Speaker 2: career on the right side, now moving him to left.

2535
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 8: No, because you know, one, it's been done before, guys

2536
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 8: have transitioned from left to left. He played left in

2537
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 8: high school, so it's not like he's never been in

2538
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 8: a left handed stance. Played four years to Alabama because

2539
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 8: he had to with Evan Neil and I think it

2540
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 8: was Tyler Steen maybe, But so they had guys that

2541
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 8: left and then they had a five star recruit come

2542
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 8: in and he'd already played a couple of years over there,

2543
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 8: and they were like, well, this is our chance to

2544
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 8: get our best five guys. Well, you're comfortable they will

2545
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 8: leave you there. But he's fully capable of playing left tackle.

2546
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 8: I think he's probably comparable to like what Tyron Smith was.

2547
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 8: Tyrann came out as a right tackle, played right tackle

2548
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 8: for a year in the league, and they moved to

2549
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 8: left in that transition. Obviously that worked out great for

2550
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 8: him and for them. You know, he just did it

2551
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 8: with Jedrick Wilson in Cleveland, which had played on the

2552
01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 8: right in Alabama and played left and he got to

2553
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 8: Cleveland for the last four years now, so not unprecedented.

2554
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got the talent to do it, so

2555
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 2: that's awesome. I'm glad to see her that he's a

2556
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 2: good dude, because I worried those top notch SEC schools

2557
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 2: after dealing with Isaiah Wilson in twenty twenty. Sure, that

2558
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,560
Speaker 2: was a horrible experience for everybody involved in the Titans.

2559
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 8: Buildings from Afart seemed like that was not a lot

2560
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 8: of fun.

2561
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 2: No, it was not, But he does seem JP was

2562
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 2: with him. JP's not in here. JP was with him

2563
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 2: at IMG and he says he's an awesome guy. He was, dude. Yeah,

2564
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 2: an IMG two academy. The they have like leadership, they

2565
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 2: have like mindset classes.

2566
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 8: It's a sports factory.

2567
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

2568
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 2: We always talked to Tyler Booker who was at Alabama

2569
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 2: with him, and the way he was talking about mindset

2570
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,799
Speaker 2: and meditation and all that. It was like eye opening

2571
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 2: to see that this young cat has all these tools already. Yeah,

2572
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:47,719
Speaker 2: it's because IMG.

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01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that he's and he was a numb

2574
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 8: one recruit. It's not like he's nombre recruit in the country.

2575
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 8: He goes to Alabama, it's like his he's known nothing

2576
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 8: but success. Yeah, and sometimes there's there's something to that.

2577
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,719
Speaker 8: I think it was cool though. The other day, after

2578
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,640
Speaker 8: the first practice, he struggles with the sled and he's

2579
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 8: kind of kind of made him mad, like he's a

2580
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 8: little bit disappointed he couldn't do it the right way

2581
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 8: right away. And so it's like five o'clock. They had

2582
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 8: the rookie minie camp in the morning. This was on Friday.

2583
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 8: They appracticed in the morning. They're done at like about

2584
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:19,799
Speaker 8: five o'clock and sit in my office and look outside

2585
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 8: and j C's out there like running one hundred yard

2586
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 8: sprints and then he's like mosing down to where the

2587
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 8: sled's at, and all of a sudden he starts hitting it,

2588
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 8: says by himself, And all of a sudden, I walk

2589
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 8: next door. I'm like, rand, should I stop him. He's

2590
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 8: like let him go for a minute and just just

2591
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 8: let him do his thing. And but he's out there

2592
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 8: in the afternoon, mad that he didn't do well enough,

2593
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 8: and he's out there working again. I'm like, that's that's

2594
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 8: when you're like, Okay, this is the right makeup like

2595
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 8: this guy's.

2596
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's as a juicy yeah. As a head coach,

2597
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 2: you got to look at that and be like, that's

2598
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 2: the guy we just drafted. That's awesome, unbelievable feeling.

2599
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 8: That's awesome. And but then there's also the flip side

2600
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 8: of it, is like, dude, you're gonna get plenty of work.

2601
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 8: You might just want to take the recovery when you

2602
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 8: get it.

2603
01:50:57,400 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 2: But what a good first impression.

2604
01:50:58,560 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean it was that that goes a

2605
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 8: little way, and it was every day after that where

2606
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 8: he'd be out like you just it's like part of

2607
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 8: his routine. And when you see a young player, it's

2608
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 8: got some routine where it's like I need to go

2609
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 8: do this, this and this in the afternoon because that

2610
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 8: helps me get ready for the next whatever it is.

2611
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:15,719
Speaker 8: At least there's some thought process behind it, like yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, that'll do.

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Speaker 8: You'll be able, you can be alright.

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Speaker 2: That's got a fire.

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Speaker 8: Fire.

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Speaker 2: We have two massive Titan fans sitting on this bus

2627
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:54,839
Speaker 2: right now, Jack McPherson and Garrett Hargas. They've been Titans

2628
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 2: fan since the beginning. Boys, do you have any questions

2629
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 2: for coach CALLI?

2630
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I do, Jack Parson, how's it going?

2631
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 1: Jack?

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01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 6: Lifelong Titan fans, Super excited to have here on the

2633
01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 6: bus and behind the range of the Titans. My question,

2634
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 6: with the significant upgrades we've gotten in the wide receiver

2635
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:16,799
Speaker 6: room recently, what is your plan regarding trailing Burk's with.

2636
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 7: Him only having one TD in twenty two games.

2637
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2638
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 6: I know you've been asked this before in the media,

2639
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 6: but would love to hear it first and from you.

2640
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 8: Sure, I think that's a that's a topic of conversation

2641
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 8: these days. I'll tell you this, I only know what

2642
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 8: I've seen of him. Obviously, I know that what precedes

2643
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 8: him just because I've watched it and I understand it.

2644
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 8: But from what we see on a day to day

2645
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 8: basis with Tray, he's been phenomenal. Like his work ethic,

2646
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 8: the things that he's done, does everything we've asked. He's

2647
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 8: got unbelievable physical talent, and it's almost it's a personal

2648
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 8: challenge to me and to our staff is how do

2649
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 8: we find the best role for Trey to come help us?

2650
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 8: Like I think he can be a good player, I

2651
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 8: do think guys getting these situations sometimes, for example, you

2652
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,560
Speaker 8: know the trade AJ and they draft him, there's just

2653
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 8: an intense amount of pressure on him to be AJ

2654
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 8: or to replace AJ. And I think that that wears

2655
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 8: on guys sometimes when it doesn't go well to start,

2656
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 8: and it's hard to be a really good player at

2657
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 8: receiver as a rookie. I think it's hard. I think

2658
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 8: it's a difficult task, and so for him there might

2659
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,799
Speaker 8: have been a compounding factors of all that pressure he felt.

2660
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:27,600
Speaker 8: And then to be able to go play fast and

2661
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 8: play aggressive and be free of that, I think is hard.

2662
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 8: So what I'm hopeful for is that the addition of

2663
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:36,680
Speaker 8: these veteran players that we have in here a new

2664
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 8: lease for him in terms of all I know is

2665
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:41,719
Speaker 8: what he's shown me, and I don't make any judgments

2666
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 8: on what's happened before. And that opportunity to reinvent yourself

2667
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,679
Speaker 8: in a sense, I think is going to be really

2668
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 8: good for him. And I've been impressed with what he's

2669
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 8: done so far and I think he can play. But

2670
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 8: it's like a personal challenge for me to find a

2671
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 8: place for him to have some success because he's got

2672
01:53:57,479 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 8: a talent and ability to do it.

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01:53:59,320 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 7: That's awesome.

2674
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 6: My second part question as well, who what credentials do

2675
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,440
Speaker 6: I need or who do I need to talk to

2676
01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 6: to be able to be the twelfth Titan and swing

2677
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 6: that sort of honor put in the middle.

2678
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 8: Of the You know, I've not experienced this yet, so

2679
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 8: you might have to.

2680
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 6: It's okay, it's the first thing they do right before

2681
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 6: the coin toss, and usually it's like an Eddie George

2682
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,799
Speaker 6: or a Javon curse. But what about Jack McPherson from Nashville,

2683
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 6: Tennessee swinging that sword? Also one request again, you've never

2684
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 6: experienced this. We need to bring back the OG paintrain video.

2685
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this is OG Paintrain video does have to

2686
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 2: come back.

2687
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 6: I don't know what happened if it was a copyright issue,

2688
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 6: but there was an original video they played before every

2689
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 6: fourth quarter of every.

2690
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 7: Game, and it needs to come back.

2691
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 6: I know if there's any Titans fans listening, they're turning

2692
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 6: this up and going, come on, come on, Callahan.

2693
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: All right, key, they're calling them Kelly. A couple of

2694
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 2: things right here, Jack, while he's answering the credential part

2695
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 2: of that question, can you pull up the pain train?

2696
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 8: I'd like to see this.

2697
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 2: Jack is a guy. If you give him a reward

2698
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 2: at the end of a tunnel, he will work endlessly.

2699
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 2: Rich Eisen has not come on our show for almost

2700
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 2: three years now, and he was told if he tweets

2701
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 2: at rich Eyesen every day until he comes on the show,

2702
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: we will gift him a Chevy Silverado. We're at day

2703
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 2: what three something? Today was excuse me? See three years

2704
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 2: and I got mixed up with this.

2705
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: This is the O. G.

2706
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 2: Paine train.

2707
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 8: But yeah, Terry, is this like Terry Tate?

2708
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:36,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, office Linebacker.

2709
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 8: I used to love those commercials.

2710
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 7: You're gonna have to put on headphones, I believe you

2711
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 7: want to hear.

2712
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 2: That's what this is great because they throw a little

2713
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 2: Johnny Cash in here. This is awesome.

2714
01:55:46,600 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 4: I started over Jack.

2715
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 8: When did they stop playing.

2716
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 1: This two years ago? Years ago?

2717
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, there there's a version of it. It's similar.

2718
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 2: But people are saying ever since the one left the building,

2719
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 2: they couldn't play that anymore.

2720
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it. But we bring the O G

2721
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:24,839
Speaker 6: video back Titan super.

2722
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 8: Bowl four, Well, I'll do some research on that, Okay.

2723
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 8: I gotta figure out why it went away in the

2724
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 8: first place. Yeah, there's nobody anymore because I played a

2725
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 8: Terry Sate video one time from the guys. How the

2726
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 8: players looked at me like.

2727
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 1: I forget he can hear me? I told him, I

2728
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 1: told I told him. We had a we had our

2729
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 1: twisted question. I said, that's the one you got to ask,

2730
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 1: and I said, we can't let Mitch talk.

2731
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mitch michows are twisted questions and it's been it's

2732
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 2: been tough unless he has helped with people in the DMS.

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Speaker 2: Keep it twisted, Grab a refreshing twist ted today. First question,

2742
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 2: how many Super Bowls do the Tennessee Titans have? They

2743
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 2: don't have any right they could have had one, because

2744
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, Mike Rable, the head coach of the

2745
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, sat on this bus and said he would

2746
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 2: cut off his dick for a Super Bowl. Now that

2747
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 2: starts off two and four ends up? Are you fucking

2748
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm good that team starts off I'm trying for rst.

2749
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 2: That team starts off two and four ends up going

2750
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,919
Speaker 2: to the AFC Championship Game, beating and ending a Patriots

2751
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 2: dynasty in the wildcard and then taking down the one

2752
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 2: seed Baltimore Ravens with Lamar Jason this first MVP trophy

2753
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 2: before the Kansas City Chiefs in Arrowhead Stadium wearing the

2754
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 2: same uniforms. Mike Vrabel was asked, you said you cut

2755
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 2: your dick off for a super Bowl? Is that still

2756
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 2: the case, to which he said, it's a joke. We

2757
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 2: were up ten zero in the first quarter, end up

2758
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 2: losing that game and obviously not going to the Super Bowl.

2759
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 2: My question, my twisted question for you, sir, are you

2760
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 2: willing to cut your dick off for a Tennessee Titan

2761
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Got two kids, two beautiful children.

2762
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 8: I don't know if I can. I don't know if

2763
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 8: I can commit to that part. I got young kids.

2764
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 2: As this twisted question, Yeah, what are you willing to

2765
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 2: do for a Tennessee Titans Super Bowl?

2766
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 8: I'd be willing to do quite a bit. Would you

2767
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 8: take off a limb like a finger, let's say whole

2768
01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 8: hand like Ronnie Lott style.

2769
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 1: Let's say whole hand.

2770
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 2: Would you hold hand? Yeah, your dominant hand.

2771
01:58:57,440 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 8: My dominant hand for super Bowl? Yeah, for the ten

2772
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 8: See Titans.

2773
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 2: As the head coach.

2774
01:59:02,160 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 8: That would be pretty That would be pretty sweet.

2775
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 2: Old man gets one.

2776
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2777
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 2: Jack McPherson gets one.

2778
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,839
Speaker 8: That's the most important, most important.

2779
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 2: Garrett Hargas gets one. Sorry you didn't speak, I was

2780
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:14,640
Speaker 2: wrapped up.

2781
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 1: Would you take off that dominant hand? M hmm.

2782
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 8: That would be tough, That would be tough to that

2783
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 8: would be tough to offer up. But in fairness to

2784
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 8: the commitment, I could, I could be if that's what

2785
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 8: it meant, I would. I would give it some consideration.

2786
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 2: That this is a answer no question. Are you willing

2787
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Speaker 2: to now that we've narrowed it down to a dominant hand,

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01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:41,919
Speaker 2: would you cut off your right hand for a Tennessee

2789
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:42,760
Speaker 2: Titans Super Bowl?

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01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 8: I cannot cut off my right hand because now here's

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01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 8: the problem. Here's the problem. I get into that same

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01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:54,080
Speaker 8: situation again and someone says, I heard you would cut

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01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 8: your hand off. Yeah, you'd have to have some incredible

2794
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 8: commitment to the process.

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02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 2: How about this?

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02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you finally do it, and then you

2797
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 1: could bag then you.

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02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 8: Could well afterwards, then you can back with the commit

2799
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:08,960
Speaker 8: what's the fun in that?

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02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 1: Right?

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02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 2: Two options? I'm gonna give you two options. There's a

2802
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 2: classic locker room where a gun to your head, you

2803
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 2: have to choose one. Yeah, would you rather for a

2804
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 2: Titan Super Bowl, lose one testicle or get a busting

2805
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 2: with the boys. Tramp Stamp Championship twenty twenty four tramp

2806
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 2: stamp on your low back?

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02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 8: Oh, I'll do I'll do the tramp stamp. Yeah, I

2808
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 8: could do that. We got. I did a tattoo for it.

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02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 1: Took us a couple of ways when he said a

2810
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 1: little too easy tramp stamp.

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02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no problem, he's actually a tattoo right there.

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02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 1: One.

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02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 8: Yah, you can do it over the one already.

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02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 2: Get Yeah, Garrett, I did not give you opportunity to

2815
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 2: time out, time out, time out.

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02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 1: He never got a chance to answer the uh to

2817
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 1: say if he's going to bring back pain Train or

2818
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 1: Jack an opportunity to maybe one day swing this.

2819
02:00:57,560 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he told me. He told me to a swish.

2820
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 2: I was like, we're getting right into it, right, that

2821
02:01:00,480 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 2: is that's my fault. I'm realizing what I gotta do

2822
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 2: the research.

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02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 8: On the video.

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02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, Pain details that because.

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02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 8: I don't know what. I've never even heard of it.

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02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 8: I didn't know.

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02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 2: So let's let me it plays in the fourth quarter,

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02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 2: right Yeah?

2829
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 8: Oh is that on the fourth quarter, like like renegade

2830
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 8: style in Pittsburgh Like that's.

2831
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that's to kick off that fourth quarter.

2832
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I hear that.

2833
02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 1: You know. The fans want to maybe you ask questions.

2834
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can do I can. I can at least

2835
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 8: give you that. I'll look into it.

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02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 6: That's all I'm asking yeah, George, the swords new for

2837
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:33,480
Speaker 6: me too.

2838
02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 8: I gotta figure out what.

2839
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,800
Speaker 6: And maybe the sword just so it's a little bit

2840
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:42,080
Speaker 6: more enticing for y'all's demographic. Maybe we bring Will and

2841
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:45,240
Speaker 6: Taylor X Titans out there too, then they can help

2842
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,920
Speaker 6: and we can all as a team slam that sword.

2843
02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 7: In the ground.

2844
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 2: We just both get on the knee and handed to Jack,

2845
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 2: no doubt.

2846
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that's exactly Jack.

2847
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 2: And hold it together and put around boys twelfth Man

2848
02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 2: then just King Arthur. Yeah, I like that.

2849
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, g did you have anything?

2850
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a question.

2851
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 9: So, with the addition to the weapons on offense and

2852
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 9: a unfortunate Titans fan base that can be fair weathered,

2853
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 9: what can the fan base look forward to this coming season.

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02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:18,040
Speaker 8: Well, I think that we're gonna have a I think

2855
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 8: we have a team of guys that are that are

2856
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:23,879
Speaker 8: hungry to prove I know not I know the perception

2857
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 8: of us outside of of our building is not high.

2858
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 8: I think we have a lot of people that don't

2859
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 8: think that we're gonna be much and I think that's

2860
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 8: where we want to be right now, and then we

2861
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:39,840
Speaker 8: have a chance to to prove a lot of people,

2862
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 8: A lot of opinions wrong. I think we're made I

2863
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 8: think we have a team that's made up to do it.

2864
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,680
Speaker 8: You're gonna have it. They're gonna play hard as hell,

2865
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 8: there's gonna be I think we're gonna have fun playing together.

2866
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:51,839
Speaker 8: I think you're gonna see the energy and the connection

2867
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 8: amongst the team. And at the end of the day,

2868
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 8: the guys that we brought in he pair them with

2869
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:58,440
Speaker 8: the guys in the locker room is is we got

2870
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 8: some guys that play football particular way. And that's as

2871
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:04,880
Speaker 8: as Dinard Wilson, our defensive courtinator, says, we've got some

2872
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 8: dogs and he says d A w G. And that

2873
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 8: stands for disciplined assholes with grit, and I like that.

2874
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 8: But I think that's the image that especially on defense too,

2875
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 8: with with lagerious and cheeto ating them at corner, Uh

2876
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 8: you a big sweat and there in the middle and

2877
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 8: Sebastian Joseph Day and your pair them with Jefferin. I

2878
02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 8: think there's some really cool things happening on defense that

2879
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 8: I'm really excited about. And so again I can't make

2880
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 8: predictions and promises and proclamations, but as far as the

2881
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 8: people and what the team looks like, I think you're

2882
02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 8: gonna it's gonna be a product that people are gonna

2883
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 8: be excited to.

2884
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 2: Come watch, show up to the games.

2885
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:42,280
Speaker 1: People.

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02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 8: I said, Look, I said I said it in my

2887
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 8: opening press conference. I said it like we need the

2888
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:51,640
Speaker 8: city of Nashville and Titans fans like we need them.

2889
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 8: We need the stadium to be a place that people

2890
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,280
Speaker 8: come to and are like, oh man, I don't want

2891
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 8: to go play in Nashville. Like that's what we're looking for.

2892
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 8: We need that environment. So all the fans, Titans fans

2893
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 8: out there listening to come on, come on, man. We

2894
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 8: need everybody on board, and hopefully you get in early

2895
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,320
Speaker 8: enough and you don't get accused of jumping on the

2896
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 8: bandwagon when when things go right.

2897
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 2: That's well, yeah, that's a good question.

2898
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 1: All core of a Titans fan base out there for sure.

2899
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 2: Every yeah, every franchise has there five percent like that

2900
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 2: five percent crazy fan base, and the Titans five percent

2901
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 2: is strong.

2902
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:25,120
Speaker 1: That's great.

2903
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 8: I love that.

2904
02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 2: It's they're crazy people in the best way possible.

2905
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:30,600
Speaker 8: That's what you need. That's that's what makes the NFL

2906
02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 8: the NFL.

2907
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:36,000
Speaker 2: Ye Matt neely Man, Yeah, he was the one.

2908
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Thank you for coming on.

2909
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 8: This is awesome, This is fun.

2910
02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 1: An hour forty with the head ball coach.

2911
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I love it.

2912
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 1: Bill listens.

2913
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 8: I can't promise you that I'll listen.

2914
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope he does. Just know that we might

2915
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 1: have to say hey, will say you hope he listens

2916
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 1: to that.

2917
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 8: I think we can probably make that.

2918
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do appreciate you coming on.

2919
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:55,800
Speaker 2: We will be flying the Titans flag all season long.

2920
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 2: I love on this bus. We'll be supporting you the

2921
02:04:57,760 --> 02:04:58,920
Speaker 2: whole time. We appreciate you coming.

2922
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:01,080
Speaker 8: Appreciate that from from you guys, and thanks for having

2923
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:01,920
Speaker 8: me on. Man, this is black.

2924
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:05,320
Speaker 2: Appreciate you enjoyed it. Subscribe brief I've starts. Big hugs,

2925
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 2: Tenny kisses