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Speaker 1: Welcome to seventy three The Bobby Cast with Jared Johnston.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because when I talk to people about you,

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Speaker 1: and and it depends who I'm talking to, because it's

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Speaker 1: like you live two lives. Well, it's the Jared that

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Speaker 1: they're like, you know, we're writing with Jared, Jared's great writer.

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Speaker 1: And then it's we were out with Jared and kind

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Speaker 1: of like three. Like it's like Jared the guy, the

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Speaker 1: cerebral Jared that sits in a room and crafts songs

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Speaker 1: is one person that people talk about the exist and

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Speaker 1: then Jared of the kind of like three, the whole

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Speaker 1: different persons exists. Unfortunately, it's like an urban legend that

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Speaker 1: people talk about. That's funny. That is true. I never

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Speaker 1: thought about that. So and and it just depends who

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Speaker 1: you talk to, because I'll bring it some people and

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Speaker 1: they really only know you as in town, riding in

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Speaker 1: a room, and then I bring it some people didn't, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go out in the road with you. So I think

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll get into that a little bit as we go.

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Speaker 1: But we both played a watershed this weekend. It was great.

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Speaker 1: It's far. It is far man. I took a red

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Speaker 1: eye home from Yeah, I did too last night to

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Speaker 1: do the radio show today, and it was brutal. My

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Speaker 1: son's fourth I guess it would be four month birthday,

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Speaker 1: which is not even really a birthday, but you celebrate

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Speaker 1: every little thing when you have a new kid. Um,

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Speaker 1: and so I was home when he woke up, so

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Speaker 1: that was important, you know, it was really cool. But

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Speaker 1: has that changed your life, like and how you think

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Speaker 1: about at being on the road all the time, it

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Speaker 1: makes it harder to you know, I mean everybody says that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Dirk Yesters, I had knocks, you know, and

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Speaker 1: again that's the girls, But like it changed when I

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Speaker 1: had knocks, you know, like when I had Jude, or

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Speaker 1: when Evan had Jude. My wife we were like it

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Speaker 1: didn't really get real to about two months in and

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Speaker 1: I was out on the road for a month and

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, crap, man, this is that's pretty brutal,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you're seeing videos and oh, he's rolling over.

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Speaker 1: I missed that. Do you feel like he grew in

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Speaker 1: that month? When you came back you were like, holy crap, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's dude. I was going for six days this last time.

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Speaker 1: He's he's probably driving, he's bought a How he's hating

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Speaker 1: this model? Unreal? That water festivals up it's in the George. Yeah, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: George is the sounds called George though, right, And it's

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Speaker 1: in the Gorge. Don't know what it's called. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: on the Columbia Rivers and it's like to you go

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Speaker 1: to Seattle and you drive for a couple of a

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Speaker 1: few hours, and they're called shutters and they're hardcore. They

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Speaker 1: stay up there. I mean a lot of those festivals

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Speaker 1: like that that BOC does, but like they you know,

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Speaker 1: there's nowhere to go. What do you you can't if

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Speaker 1: you leave, where do you go? You know? I mean,

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Speaker 1: and they pay like five hundred bucks for ten Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome, man. So where do we start with you?

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Speaker 1: I think we'll start. I think I'll start with some

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Speaker 1: of the riding stuff first. So why don't we start

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Speaker 1: with your By the way, I heard you couldn't pull

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Speaker 1: into the driveway and your truck was too big? Is

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Speaker 1: that true? Yeah, well you're jeep was in the middle,

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Speaker 1: you know, come on, was kind of in the middle here.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, I do live here and I was

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Speaker 1: kind of parked there first before they're parking like a

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Speaker 1: did you're taking up two spots? No I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: taking up my spot. Well, I was gonna parking on

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Speaker 1: the road, but I just couldn't maneuver it. But how

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Speaker 1: big of a truck do you? I didn't want two

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Speaker 1: big It's just like a kids truck. It's bigger than

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Speaker 1: kids truck kIPS always trying to beat me. So he

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Speaker 1: kind of goes and gets trapped. So you must have

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Speaker 1: a big truck. It's a at left on it. But

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Speaker 1: it came like that. You know, I have a buddy

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Speaker 1: that I'm not that guy. I got vans. You said

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Speaker 1: you're not. You said you're not that guy. How bigs

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Speaker 1: you're left? It's like three inch and I got an

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Speaker 1: m C five shirt. Off. Come on, bro, alright, But

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Speaker 1: it's like you're balancing everything out. I'm trying. It's a

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Speaker 1: hard one. All right, let's talk. You know who was in.

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Speaker 1: Tom Douglas was in, and that guy. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to expect from Tom. You know, you get this

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Speaker 1: guy you're coming in and you're like I was reading

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Speaker 1: You know, Tom Douglas been around, but he didn't get

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Speaker 1: this first. Cittil his forties, so he's got this whole

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Speaker 1: and he was talking about raise them up and you

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can sing this line about

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Speaker 1: the America part. Yeah. I didn't even cross my mind.

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Speaker 1: Like I sent it to him first on text, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, I got this song. This thing

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Speaker 1: is nasty. And we just finished the demo, you know,

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Speaker 1: like written in two hours before that day. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Abby was my publisher, was in the room and she goes,

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Speaker 1: this is huge. This is a a game changer for somebody,

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Speaker 1: we just didn't know who. I was like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: send the Keith first because he gave me. I had

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Speaker 1: my first ship with him and he's always been really

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Speaker 1: so I sent it to him. I didn't even think

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Speaker 1: about the USA or you know, what is it. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember what the line is, but it's an American

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Speaker 1: you know, cross your heart thing or whatever and uh

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Speaker 1: and then he just said, yeah, I want it. It's mine,

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Speaker 1: you know, first thing back. So it didn't even cross

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Speaker 1: what did Tom said about it even He said that

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Speaker 1: it didn't cross his mind either, but that Keith felt uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: That can you know, people really take me serious? For him,

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Speaker 1: I'm singing this song about like the hot and so

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Speaker 1: I was only just talked a kid like five minutes

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Speaker 1: ago to ab a whole different thing. And so that video,

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Speaker 1: Oh he sent you the trap Yes, he sent it

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Speaker 1: to me and Eric ironically, Eric, okay, he sent me.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I'll just read it to you because you're

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Speaker 1: not you know what I'm talking about. Then, Hey, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I messed up my screen over here, if you could

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Speaker 1: fix it. He sent me Urban sent this thing. He says,

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Speaker 1: trap country. He said, tell me if you think this

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Speaker 1: what are we supposed to make of this oddly catchy

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Speaker 1: trap country song? And then he said, I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: he said, Mom was a little less politically correct. It

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Speaker 1: was pretty awesome. It's really good. Yeah, so hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tom just said that Keith felt a little uncomfortable with it,

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Speaker 1: and then he was like, I don't think he's from Australia. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why don't we call somebody who like personifies America? And

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Speaker 1: so they called freaking Church. I'll guarantee that was I mean,

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know. I was over in that southtown

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Speaker 1: texted me, and I was kind of hanging around Blackbird

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Speaker 1: I go where you at Blackbird? He goes the other

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Speaker 1: sleet right down the street. It's popped in there, and

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Speaker 1: and he goes, I want you to hear it. Cool

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Speaker 1: when I walk in there, and you know, Eric's there,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, very Church doing here, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's Miranda or something. But they just did that

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Speaker 1: It's like there was a time when I when I

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Speaker 1: Keith was on, you know what I mean, And they

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Speaker 1: both those guys do a song that big. And if

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Speaker 1: good one to do. That's a weird thing for you too,

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Speaker 1: is that again? A lot of people know you as

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Speaker 1: the writer and you do give a lot of great

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Speaker 1: You're sure it's a different thing. It's like we've raised

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Speaker 1: I kind of kicked myself. But I had such great

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Speaker 1: And I mean it doesn't have to do crazy things

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Speaker 1: because of that song. And I don't know that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: its job. But I don't think we were that band yet.

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Speaker 1: Um Like meanwhile, back my mamas, I don't think I was.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people were taking me serious at that time. Now,

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Speaker 1: is it's tough to look back on some of those

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Speaker 1: that one for us. Oh yeah, they well kneel our

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Speaker 1: drummer rights quite a bit too. And he you know,

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Speaker 1: he really payback for flats. And I was like it

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Speaker 1: we would have had a hit with that song. You

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Speaker 1: have hits, that we would have worked that one. You know,

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Speaker 1: I because that was right in the middle, and I

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Speaker 1: think people to believe me singing that a lot more

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Speaker 1: than Gary, you know. I think that's why they had

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Speaker 1: trouble with that song. But yeah, so we we go

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Speaker 1: through that daily, so you don't run songs by each other.

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Speaker 1: Then we do now we have it. So there was

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Speaker 1: a there was a I think it was raising up

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Speaker 1: kind of like, alright, let's let's start having a weekly

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Speaker 1: bust band meetings, you know or whatever, which just means

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Speaker 1: we get hammered and make fun of each other's songwriting.

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Speaker 1: So if there's a majority vote, will you hold it

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Speaker 1: for yourself? Yeah, will be a vote. I send it

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Speaker 1: in whenever I turned the song and I say, if

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Speaker 1: I even think it might be a TC three thing out,

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Speaker 1: I'll say hold for TC three please and know it sweet, right,

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Speaker 1: you know. And then a lot of times they're like

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Speaker 1: when I say, all right, you can pitch that, they're

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Speaker 1: really happy because they have you know, they they're good

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of artist friends of Buddies, Derk's

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00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 1: buddy pass a buddy, good dude, Urban, pretty good buddy, Australian,

425
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: but good duddy. Yeah, but I don't know Frankie at all.

426
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 1: It's cool, how like what artist wise is he good?

427
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 1: I think he's really good. Like he actually Keith put

428
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: up a video that I saw that then that's why

429
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm asking that because I'll playing together. And I was like,

430
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was doing, like I can't remember

431
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: what they were doing some Steve ros songs like that.

432
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: They're going back and forth trade licks. It was killer

433
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: right and the first light when Frankie came into town,

434
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, wearing the leopard print jacket,

435
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 1: like doing the Elvis thing, you know what I mean.

436
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: He signed to Warner Brothers and it was a lot

437
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: to take, I think for a lot of people. But

438
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy's red. You know, he talks

439
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 1: like he's fifty years old and he calls everybody young man.

440
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, He's like, man, I'm four years you don't

441
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: come with your So it's like that's actually kIPS story.

442
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: He said that the kIPS and kids like man kind

443
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: of hurt kIPS feelings because like Anyways, he's a sensitive guy. Um,

444
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 1: but so I think he's great. Man. He's a great

445
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 1: guitar player. He's from Michigan, so he has a lot

446
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: of that um what's Old Bud? Yeah Siger in him.

447
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 1: And you know, if you listen to it's really funny

448
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: if you listen to Kid Rock Bob or Old Bud

449
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: Uncle Cracker sing and they're all from the same area

450
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 1: and you hear Frankie sing, it's it's I can't tell

451
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: the three of them apart. Sometimes when they do certain songs,

452
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: like on that song, he sounds like that would have

453
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 1: been an Uncle Cracker slam dunp man. They all had

454
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: this little rast thing. Who'd you write that with? That's interesting.

455
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: Guy's been in here like Luke Lair. It's crazy, like awesome, man,

456
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: dude that he's one of my favorites. Man, I'll just

457
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: watch this Twitter and he'll pull out the little oh dude. Yeah,

458
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: they all light up and yeah. And we spent probably

459
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of this talking about him. Ryan was snooping

460
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 1: right in the future. What I appreciate appreciated about him

461
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: and about a lot of artists, is that you're you're taught,

462
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 1: you only like country and that's what you need to say.

463
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: And look, I was like, screw to that man. No man,

464
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: he's but he'll he'll pop out of Darryl Singletary cassette

465
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: tape and then you know some rent like fab five

466
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: Freddie or something, you know what I mean, Like he's

467
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,959
Speaker 1: he's awesome. We did raise them up when out through

468
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: catalog for a second, if you want to do we

469
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 1: could get Billy song donut. I was Forgod about that one.

470
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: How do you how do you forget? Man? It's not

471
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, it's like radio shows for you know,

472
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: like I do it every day, you know. But here's

473
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: the difference. If I did one radio show that paid

474
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: me a lot more than the others, I think I

475
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: would remember them more. I remember the days, you know

476
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. But you just you know, I know,

477
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: you write like a thousand songs a lot, and I

478
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: do like a thousand radio shows. But if I did

479
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: one radio show that paid me a lot more than

480
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: the other ones without to remember though, Yeah, I mean

481
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: I remember, but it's hard. It's like you know, you

482
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: have I mean I've had, I've I've been very blessed

483
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: and I had a lot of success, and so you

484
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: just it kind of gets grouped in this once you

485
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: get past this certain amount of songs, like I bet,

486
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: I bet if you had red Akins in here or

487
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: any of those guys Dallas, he couldn't name everyone and

488
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: if he wanted to. I bet. It's gotta be weird

489
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: to to try to remember for things people ask you,

490
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: like who you co wrote the song with, because it's

491
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: probably that One's usually easy for me because, like I said,

492
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: you remember the day because you're like, you always want

493
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: to remember I'm the one that came up from that

494
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: line or whatever. That deer on the deer head on

495
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: the wall, that wasn't my line, I don't hunt, you know,

496
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: it's not no, that wasn't me, um, stuff like that.

497
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: So I remember the songwriters much of the time, unless

498
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: it's like like Ashley Gourley and Ross I've had a

499
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: couple of hits with, and so those get kind of

500
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: what what day was? What? You know? I mean, that

501
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: kind of thing is confusing, But I don't know, it's weird.

502
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: Tom Dougas was talking about and riots and I haven't

503
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: heard anyone describe it like this before that. You know,

504
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: you fall into a role there's always the creator, which

505
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: is important, and there's always the editor, which is very important.

506
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: But if you get to creators at the same time,

507
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: they're super creating. Sometimes they can the song just won't roll,

508
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: and sometimes you're the guy that's running it, and sometimes

509
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: you're the guy is not. I think half the half

510
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: the the thing of being you know, a hit songwriter

511
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: or just having luck with it is knowing your role

512
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: in the room and being extremely lucky too, because there's

513
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes that are really good writing great

514
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: songs and they never get heard just because they're not

515
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: in the circles that are and people people are picking

516
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: from right now, you know, it's like it's it's really wild.

517
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, what Tom was talking about that that whole

518
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: thing is and then you have you have exceptions like

519
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: me and Tom are both like creator dudes, but I

520
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: kind of do the do track stuff. Is what It's

521
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: hard to explain. You write songs, you know how it

522
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: goes kind of you're right, funny, all right, I'll enjoy

523
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: that Starbucks thing is really good. But so you know,

524
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: we kind of Tom and I know our roles together

525
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: and we we kind of just both help out for

526
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: everything and if we have somebody that comes in, like

527
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: a lot of times Tom and all Right with a

528
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: new artist, and it's always a lot of fun to

529
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: see if they're gonna fall into their role or if

530
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like no, man, it's I'm like, did

531
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: you're sitting in here with Tom Douglas? A? I mean,

532
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm okay, what I do? You know? I mean Tom's

533
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: a ninja songwriter. Like, just listen for one second. That's

534
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: another thing I'd like to tell artists. If you're starting

535
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: to write songs with hit songwriters or whatever, people that

536
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: just really passionately do this for a living, go in

537
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: and listen for a minute before you come in hot dogging.

538
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Because everybody's got a record deal man. You know, let

539
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: me play advocate for a second. Whatever. If I walking

540
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: into a room and I've walked it and it's a

541
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: different switch because I'm not I'm a common water write jokes,

542
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: I just stand up. You know, not a song. You know,

543
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: I play like thirteen chords. That's maybe thirteen yeah, but

544
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't do the truth. You know, you do three chords.

545
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: I do three chords of a much craps any more.

546
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: So I'll go in and not like a friend with Ross,

547
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: and these guys are my buddies. So I go in

548
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: and I always feel like it's jail where you gotta

549
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: go on to punch the biggest guy in the face

550
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: immediately so they know You're like you're not just there

551
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: and scared. So I'm like, I'm here here, Oh my ideas,

552
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: take them. There's there's people that are really good that

553
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: should do that. There's people that are not good. They

554
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: should not do that. That's all I'm saying. But and

555
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm not good, but I still do that. So now

556
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: I'm figuring out the problem. I mean, I remember, I

557
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: remember hearing stories of old school guys, you know, like

558
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: before I kind of came into the scene, like of

559
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: people and I'm not going to name their names because

560
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: they're friends of mine now, but like they'd be like, hey, hey,

561
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: but trust me, I know, all right, just just go

562
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: go with me on. This wasn't that you at point

563
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: points at the now I do that as a joke,

564
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But yeah, I mean, you know,

565
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: I was always you know, when I started writing, i'd

566
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: come in as an artist and but I was doing both,

567
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: you know, kind of sous weird, but I thought it

568
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: was the best guy in the room, and a lot

569
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: of times I was a lot of times I wasn't.

570
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: But I found out the hard way, but by somebody

571
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: being like, remember the first time I wrote with Marty Frederickson.

572
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: You know who Marty is. He wrote Jaded and always

573
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: like huge Harrison my songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were

574
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: out in l A. And we went out there to

575
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: write this is a long time ago. And he comes

576
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: in on motorcycle. You know, it just comes in, all right,

577
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: what do you need? You need hits? I got hits out.

578
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: I'll hit you, you know whatever, Like you don't want

579
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: to write hits, don't waste my time. And I'm just

580
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: sitting there going and like whoa, and he was. He

581
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: was like on fire. And then I was like, okay,

582
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: well I had this saying I kind of want to

583
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: write this Beast of Burden kind of idea. And I

584
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 1: started playing this thing and he just like see I'm

585
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: posing because if he don't want to come, I mean

586
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: he just starts spitting fire. And Neil and I are

587
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: my drummer. We were just sitting there going like my ship,

588
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: if you're that good, come in and be that guy.

589
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: I guess because he was great, you know what I mean.

590
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: And then I learned a lot from that because I

591
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: judged him immediately. But then I was like, wow, there's

592
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: a reason he'd like that, because he's probably the best

593
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: in the game at this point, you know what I mean.

594
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: And it's also the voice for almost famous. Oh yeah,

595
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: you bring us something interesting. So when you start as

596
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: a writer and you're the writer, not the artist, because

597
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: you're not writing for yourself. Let's see, you're just writing.

598
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: When you first start, who was one of the arts

599
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: you sit down with, You're like, wow, like this is crazy,

600
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: Like what's happened on my life right now? I get

601
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: to write for X. That was Keith probably when first

602
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: that was my after my Jimmy Wayne wonderful story. Um

603
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: in l A. I was out there and my manager

604
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: at the time said, or Abby Berkhalter Adams and my

605
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: publisher said you might get a phone call Joe Fishers

606
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: trying to hook you and Keith urban up and I

607
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, you know um and sure enough, Hey,

608
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Jared's Keith Evan, that's my Australia And so he came

609
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: up to this. I was saying at this ridiculous house

610
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: my and our guys, you know, Hollywood Hills, Cocaine on

611
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: the floor, you know the house. And so Keith comes

612
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: over man, and we get in there and we start

613
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: writing and he's like, man, you know what we need

614
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: an app I was like, all right, I didn't have

615
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: anythings that flowing out there. So we drive down to

616
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: this music store at the bottom of the hill and Burbank.

617
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: He walks in there, Keith Urban, he's he's rock star.

618
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: Then you know, um walks in and buys like the

619
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: first you know, deluxe he sees or whatever they bring

620
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: carried out to them, car to the car and everything

621
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: for him, you know. And I'm like, all right, man,

622
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: they never do that for me. He goes, yes, he goes,

623
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: It's amazing what people do and you can have a

624
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: little bit of money, you know whatever. I'm like, okay,

625
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: cool son. We go up to the top of the

626
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: hill when we start writing. We wrote a song called

627
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: um our works Happy to be right before not killing Clarkson,

628
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: but Katy Perry put out fireworks so that we couldn't

629
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: shot for a bit. But it's still good. Um, but

630
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: we kind of had that. We've made a relationship and

631
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: the whole time in the room, I'm like, I had

632
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: a computer set up and I'm like, every time you

633
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: look away, I'm sneaking. Like the snapshot where you get

634
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: like a picture of me and him and it's like

635
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: everyone is blurry where he's and I'm like, I couldn't

636
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: kill it before he looks back at this. Just some

637
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: people would believe that I was in the room with him,

638
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: you know something. But yeah, that was my first moment.

639
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: And I've had a lot of those men where you

640
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: just like it's hard to be yourself, you know, because

641
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: you're just freaking out the whole time. Stephen was like

642
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: that the Tyler Steven Tyler thing even for me on

643
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: the radio, and I don't to me, there's only been

644
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: two people had too, maybe three that have been like

645
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: this is so cool that I'm a little on tilt

646
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: because I do it all the time, that it's just

647
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: what I do and it's what I'm good at me too.

648
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: But I'm telling yeah, you know, like you're not you're

649
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: also not being in there, Hey what do you think

650
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: of this idea? But I also gotta be funny, and

651
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: I also have to be different than every other because

652
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm supposed to, like the big guy, I know'

653
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: the biggest show in the world. The people come in

654
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: there and so they expect something. And so Steven Tyler

655
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: came in and I was like, this is not even real.

656
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: He'll turn it, he'll get you. He's seventy and he's

657
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: and he's like, he's like, he's thirty eight. He's always

658
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: on fire man how all the time? I just was like,

659
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: how does this assistant deal with this all the time? Dude?

660
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: It's yeah, he's he was super kind. Yeah, he's awesome,

661
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: super kind, and but I I felt like he was

662
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: so famous, he was lonely a little bit. Yeah, I

663
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: think I mean honestly, I think that's why him and

664
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: I hit it off so good. I mean with Keith too, Like,

665
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: but I talked to these people like I would talk

666
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: to my friends, you know, like I call him asshole

667
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: and stuff, you know, where hey, you know whatever. I

668
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: talked to him like normal people. And I think maybe

669
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: in their lives they don't get a lot of that.

670
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: I think they get a lot of people not being

671
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: real with them. And so maybe that's why, you know,

672
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: in dirts, become great friends with dirty because I'm honest

673
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: with him all the time. You know. It's like, man,

674
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: that drunk on a plane song was terrible, you know

675
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, you know, saying stuff like that, meaning

676
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, happy world hasn't been on a plane.

677
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: Why do you think this is gonna be a hit. Now,

678
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I was completely wrong. That would changed his career. But um,

679
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, so yeah, I don't know, I just yeah,

680
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: he's Stephen is definitely you know. It took me about

681
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: five hours to the first time we were hanging out

682
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: like writing, to get to where I could like be normal,

683
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, and kind of just like, Okay, I smelt

684
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: like fifteen cigarettes, do not even smoke. When it comes

685
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: to American rock royalty for using that term, who do

686
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: you put above Stephen? To Americans? Who do you put

687
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: above Steven Tyler? I mean Bob Dylan alive that there's

688
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: not much. I mean, maybe Dylan, Paul McCartney, you know,

689
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: but he's not American like Springsteen. Springsteen would be out there,

690
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: but Eric Smith was so commercial. And that's what I'm saying,

691
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Like you had, there's a debate any of those. I'm

692
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: not Tom Pett, Yeah, Tom, And I'm not a big

693
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: no young guy. But if someone wanted to argue, no young,

694
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: I would be like okay, It's like yeah, yeah, like okay,

695
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: I get it. He was nash young. He's no young.

696
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: But Steve Stephen Talers that of all the Americans, like

697
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: he's it, that's alive. You know. It's just like yeah,

698
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: and he's a and he's a lot. Did you ever

699
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: get do you ever take it down? In oction writing?

700
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Did he ever go down? Yeah? A little bit. I

701
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: mean like the first couple. I mean the first couple

702
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: I was like he was there's so much stuff. You've

703
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: ever been to his house? Man? Then you walk into

704
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: this room. There's like five dogs like the one here

705
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: in town. Yeah, little yip yipp dogs. You know, there's

706
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: like two trainers and assistant, somebody on the phone that

707
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: he's yelling at about something in a friendly way. Um.

708
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: And then there's all this music equipment, like every rum

709
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: set you'd ever want, like pianos, a napping and guitar

710
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: that Johnny Depp gave him. And he tells that story

711
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: and it's just so much to take in. And then

712
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: he sits down and starts playing dream On on the

713
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: toy piano and you're just like I'm supposed to do.

714
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to act natural. You know, it's it's it

715
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: was a lot, man, but we you know, we got

716
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: a cool song. It was one of those really awesome experiences.

717
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: You know which song wasn't It was called Somebody from Somewhere.

718
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: It was this, well I want Somebody from Somewhere. Yeah,

719
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: I have it up. It's the title track for that record.

720
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I got to produce it too. He let me. I mean,

721
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: he all with something something, It's like that something some

722
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: white yellow back. Yeah, awesome, guys. Where what was Somebody

723
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: from somewhere? Watching him sing that live in the studio?

724
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: You were there when I get me and Ryan Gore

725
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: in the room with all only ones in the room,

726
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: and we were just half five and knuckle bumping like

727
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: every two seconds, you know, because it was I mean,

728
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: he did one take and you're just like, this guy

729
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: still sounds like he still has it. Oh man, it's great.

730
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: I saw him a live a couple of years ago.

731
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: And again when my job, you get lucky, you get

732
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: to do things. And so we were up on side

733
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: stage and he had a prompter. Well they have so

734
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: many hits, like, I get it. I need a prompter

735
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: like one and had a comic song. Yeah I just

736
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: need but it sounded amazing. Yeah, yeah he was. I've

737
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: met him I think four times, and each time I've

738
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 1: got to spend a little more time with them because

739
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: as my position has grown, you get better access. And

740
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: it's just a cool thing, which is why I'm I'm

741
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: just in the room. It's really a big idea for

742
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: a big, big to have you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

743
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: so but I remember right first I met him, I

744
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: was nineteen in Arkansas. He was the kindest person to

745
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: a nineteen year old. I wasn't a pimple on his butt, man,

746
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: but he was just the nicest guy. I fought to

747
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: an airport with him. He's just stop and talk to

748
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: every everybody that looks at him, like and he wants

749
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: to hear their story. Oh yeah, your mom saw me

750
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: and something in seventies and what show was that? You

751
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: know where we at the Walmart thing or you know

752
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he knows. It's surprising too that

753
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: he's like still alive. Like justcase. He told me the

754
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: story we were off the air, and he wouldn't care

755
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: about it, said this um he was talking about I

756
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: was taking about Freddie Mercury because I love Queen and

757
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm one of the guys that think there are a

758
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: few artists that I can see that if they put

759
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: out the same music today, it would still be relevant.

760
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: And like I think Queens one of them. I think

761
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: Big he's one of them, you know. And I was

762
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: talking about Queen that was and he was like, dude, uh,

763
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Freddy was open for me, you know. And and he

764
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: was like, he's about a lot of people, by the way.

765
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: It was like he was open for me. He wrote,

766
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: he wrote the bus, he wrote in the back of

767
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: the bus. We gave him like one bunk and like

768
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: three of them shared it and and I was like, dude,

769
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Like I think they've been around seventies, eighties, nineties,

770
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: two thousands, two thousand ten. Dude, we're in two thousand

771
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: and seventeen. I think this is the last to think. Yeah,

772
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: but they've said that a few times, Like I get it,

773
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: but that's five decades. Yeah. Yeah. I saw him last

774
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: week or two weeks ago and Download Festival and Donnington

775
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: England we played right before him, and it was unreal.

776
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: Isn't the vibe though? Weird? Like when you really know

777
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: what's going he came to have a little bit. But

778
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: they seem to be getting along. But but it's like

779
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: Keith and Mick. Yeah, like you know that that's like

780
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: a marriage that's together because it's healthier together than not.

781
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: But it both kind of it's it's awesome and it

782
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: sucks at the same time. I think it's helped since

783
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: I think Joe got sober, so I think that things

784
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: are a little easier in that world. But no, I

785
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: hung out with him and it was cool. I mean,

786
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm my mind. I'm on the little report

787
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: order from almost famous, you know, like picking out trying

788
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: to keep my cool and uh but yeah, man, they

789
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: have a great show though still still sound great. What

790
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: about you? It's such a dynamic and I mean, look

791
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: at you guys. How do you guys stay to gain?

792
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot of time with people. Yeah,

793
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: my man with three kids from downtown Nashville. But like

794
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, when you have a similar dream and you

795
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: have all you know is the three of us, like

796
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: but you get wives and friends. You know, it's just

797
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a big family, you know. It's

798
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. All we wanted to do

799
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: is gonna bus, you know, and then where on the

800
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: bus we made it? You know, I got on the bus.

801
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: And now the next thing is we want to headline

802
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: rob headline the Robbit. Next thing, you know, we want

803
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: to start touring Europe. Sure you're telling out, you know.

804
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: So it's like you're doing so much and you're doing

805
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: it all together. It's it's it doesn't get old. Really,

806
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of just like it's a lot of high

807
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: fives going on. Okay, how about this. It cool because

808
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: you're all, you know, kind of like three. But you

809
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: have different success levels writing, so it's not like your

810
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: bank accounts are all the same. So are you buying

811
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: dinner most of the time? Yeah? I mean is there

812
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: resentment because no, I mean they've seen how hard I've worked,

813
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: you know when, But do you understand the question is

814
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: there resentment? Because I mean, I hope not. I'd like

815
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: to think that you gotta you gotta freaking monster truck

816
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: out here with a Tesla at home. I'm just this

817
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: is a question one that jumped into testa thing. I

818
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: should have said that the guys, you know, um, we

819
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: all worked we worked together really well. We all deserve

820
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: everything that we have and we all know that. Like

821
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: Neil learned how to write songs, you know what I mean,

822
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: the drummer, he got publisher Dylan. He's made a very

823
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: very liquid, you know, situation out of it and he's

824
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: doing really well. Um Kelby if Kelby Kelby doesn't really

825
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: like writing songs as much. You know, he doesn't when

826
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: he wants to, but he's not's not his thing. He

827
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: like riding is Harley and playing lap stool and smoking weed,

828
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that's Kelby, um, And

829
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: there's no resentment like no man because we I mean,

830
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm not him since he was thirteen, you know what

831
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like any if you ever any

832
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: of these guys where if I haven't anything, they obviously

833
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: know I mean, you don't. You can gonna find a

834
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: tighter unit of people, you know what I mean. Like

835
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: it's just what it is because we grew up together.

836
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: But no, I don't think they'ser your question. I don

837
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: think there's any resentment. Who is it? Did you see

838
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: right now that you like they're they're just good, Like

839
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: they're good t J and John real good brothers. I

840
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: was born. That's that I heard some of their new

841
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: record either and we played with them and it's irritating

842
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: almost to the point because they're they're really good and

843
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: they you know, we kind of at like brothers actually

844
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: are brothers, which is a really cool thing. And there's

845
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: two of the best to you. I mean, do you

846
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: know there's guys I know, John Well, John and Lucy Well. Yeah,

847
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: so awesome, you know. So I'm just so happy for them.

848
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: We're actually taking them to open our November European tour,

849
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be a mess. John played we uh,

850
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: we did a show at the Rhyman and we asked

851
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: brothers come out with us. Sorry, brothers Osborne. So it's

852
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: not cool. It's not too cool, guy, um say complay

853
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: was complay with this, and I felt like you could

854
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: make the called John's a friend. You never want to

855
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: ask your friends to do a lot of business stuff

856
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: because there's that line. But then if you're so good friends,

857
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: you could be like, hey, can you come out Saturday

858
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: night and play? And so I was like, hey, when

859
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: you guys come, do you know a couple of songs

860
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: we're playing the Rheman. And I've seen John play before,

861
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: but only like acoustic and there's a difference that when

862
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: he gets out electrics. I mean, it's like me walking

863
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: down the street him playing an electric guitar. It's just

864
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: there's not so you you look and walk down, I'm

865
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: super cool. Yeah, like it with ease and I'm super cool. Yeah. No,

866
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: it's he's he's there's one other guitar player in town

867
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: that's that, and it's not like it's just a different thing. Well,

868
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna guess who are gonna Jack Pearson blues

869
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: guy he's plays, he's to play all my brothers stuff.

870
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: But John is by far like my favorite guitar player

871
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: in town. I think he's just disgusting, you know. And

872
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: he's super It's tasty and cool, and he's not doing

873
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: every lick that everybody else is doing, you know what

874
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: I mean. I got a buddy that produces television shows

875
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, we're gonna give brothers

876
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: osboord and I'll tell the story. I don't he don't care.

877
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: He's like your brothers osmore some time and CMA fest

878
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 1: and coming up he's like cool and he goes another

879
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: buddy had I was like, who his brother's osbore Like

880
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: he's from California and he's like, you know, two brothers

881
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: are good. I think you don't like him, And he's like,

882
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm anna like him. Like he'd listen

883
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: to a couple of songs, you know, pull them. Well,

884
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: he's played a couple of songs. But you know he's

885
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: not a country music, is not really a rock guy.

886
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: He lives in l a more of a hip hop guy.

887
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: And also you look at him. He said, big beer.

888
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: It's just a thing, like you have to fully take

889
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: it in to appreciate it. And so oh, he there

890
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: at um Nissan or whatever it's calls called Nissan's did

891
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: though I don't even know, but whatever is that where

892
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: the Titans played where they have and he comes up,

893
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: he goes who's who's playing? Are there? And goes to

894
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: brothers off when he goes Holy like they need to

895
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: be on And I think on the show that that's

896
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: gonna come out, Like I think there's like a four

897
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: minute John solo on it where he's just crushing it,

898
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: and you don't put that on TV unless it's just

899
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: so freaking good. Like on the first single on the

900
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: album cut there was there's like a seven minute solo

901
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: on the back side. Yeah, it's really good too. It

902
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,400
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903
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,920
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904
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,279
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905
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: let me talk about Blue Apron for a second. Blue

906
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,560
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907
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,520
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908
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,000
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909
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,160
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910
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911
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912
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913
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914
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,920
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916
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917
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918
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921
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,319
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922
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,120
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924
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927
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928
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929
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,600
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930
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,080
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931
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: talk about this. Uh, let's let's talk about cat like

932
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: three for a second and get Radio World or whatever.

933
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
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934
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: we don't get to have this thing, like we got

935
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: two million people last month, right. But the only reason

936
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: we get to do it because people like Blue Apron

937
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: like it will be a sponsor. It's delicious, you know,

938
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: do you Okay, you should though they come, they come,

939
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: they do. But there's a difference. You have to cook

940
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: the Blue Apron. The Blue Aprons like if you cook

941
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: at home, and it's like what do we want? And

942
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: they got all these different things. You listen to you

943
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: and why have you get the kid there right right right?

944
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: Make food? They listen, I'm trying to eat. Yeah, let's

945
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: get back. Yeah yeah, all right, let's talk about this

946
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: this new record. And so people listen to this thing

947
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: for months and months after the fact. It's a difference

948
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: podcast on radio. But I'm gonna play this one here

949
00:45:42,480 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: Dr Cold John Yeah, it wrote this one and Johnathan

950
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: Singleton's on the Singleton and Neil on the back of

951
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: the day the back of the bus. Riding is always

952
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: weird to me, Like you like riding on the bus.

953
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: I just were honest. I mean, I have to keep writing,

954
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: so you just we wrote half this record on that bus,

955
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: but we got the studio on the back and it's

956
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: it's really homy. It's cool, you know, because we we'll

957
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: take the bus and I'm just I just want to slip.

958
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't get all asleep anyway, so maybe that's why

959
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: I win. That's three in the morning. You always sleep

960
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: really good on the bus because it's cold and dark,

961
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: it's a little and you're and you're just moving just

962
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: a bit. Nobody to mess with you. It feels like

963
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: going as a kid, we used to ride right on

964
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: the back to camper like we go, we go thirty miles,

965
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: being a campra show, getting sleep bag, driving through Arkantas.

966
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: That's kind of what it feels like. So you have

967
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: the bus like just doing people people probably the bus,

968
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: so you get multiple buses. Now, no, we just I'm

969
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna take a family one out later in the year.

970
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: But this one it's just there's three the only three dudes.

971
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: And then we have four crew, so seven of us total.

972
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, so we have the condo is really cool.

973
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: And I'll say about you guys, looks cool as there

974
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: are three you on stage like here it is yeah,

975
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: no tracks, no no punch in the face, it's three

976
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: of us like here, it's you know what I remind

977
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: the first I watched you guys, when I first moved down,

978
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: it was I was like, this is like the southern

979
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: rock Green Day is what I felt it Nirvana. But

980
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what I felt in my head.

981
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: You can't even out the game. When I was walking

982
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: on the road looking really cool. But but you know,

983
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: forever Green Day, it was just those three like that

984
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: was it. But Nirvana put a Pat smir would get

985
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: he got in is the Fourth for a while, but

986
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: that really wasn't until like the acoustic thing, right, But

987
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: then he was part of a two for a bit which,

988
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: by the way, the Food Fighter right now, you know,

989
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: which is awesome. But that's why I didn't think Nirvanna

990
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: can such a Nirvana fan that I put Pat in

991
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: my head. All Right, I'm with you on the Green

992
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Day things. Now you're not at you tell me a

993
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: little bit. You're like, no, I would do on Nirvana.

994
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: But I felt like I was like because I always

995
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: thought it was cool. The Green Day was just gonna

996
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: put three freaking guys like Billy Joel played the guitar.

997
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: It was just boom, boom boom, and it was just

998
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: it was like, there's a lot coming from those three.

999
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah there there. I mean, I mean that's the idea.

1000
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: It's easy top, you know, that's kind of where we

1001
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: get our thing from. It is just we were gonna

1002
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: add somebody at the beginning, and we're just like, God,

1003
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: I whish it was the way we could figure out

1004
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: how Cob we could play lap still on base at

1005
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: the same time, and he's like, well, hang on, put

1006
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: these phuttles up and it was like and we're like, oh,

1007
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: hell yeah, one less guy to pay. Don is it

1008
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: a like I fell as you just don't want to

1009
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: play any track at all like that, Like I mean,

1010
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: it's just we don't use clicks, so we all kind

1011
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: of if you notice, if you watch us play, we

1012
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: kind of moved to like a lot of tempo changes

1013
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: and it's some of us accidental, some of it's just

1014
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just going to a riff and we are

1015
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: ripping off music or somebody, you know whatever, and Neil

1016
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: just goes with it. And it's like to do all

1017
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: that stuff, you have to put your whole show on

1018
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: a thing, and we've never done that. We don't even

1019
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: have a set list. We never know what we're gonna play,

1020
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: Like we have kind of a skeleton sometimes, but we'll

1021
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: go out there in our guitar text but like can

1022
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: on the radio? Can we get an opener police? And

1023
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: we know we're guitars to hang you and like too

1024
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: much before we're gone, We just kind of call it.

1025
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: So it would kind of take out a lot of

1026
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: that thing. You know, how much pressure you putting yourself

1027
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: with this album? I mean we a lot. We put

1028
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: it out within a year of the last record, which

1029
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: is you know, I think us cutting a song like

1030
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: legacy to and and not giving that away when a

1031
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: lot of people wanted it. I think, UM and I

1032
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: I just had a kid, Keble, just got married. It

1033
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: kind of says where we are in life too, and

1034
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm really proud of that song. I think

1035
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: this this record opened some doors force and um gives

1036
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: the old fans what they want. Also shows the right

1037
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: amount of growth because we'd be lying to you if

1038
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: we said we didn't want to be the biggest fan

1039
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: in the world. And I think the records that we're

1040
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: making and we're doing it by ourselves, we're heading in

1041
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: a direction that's you know, we're doing We're moving up.

1042
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: It's good. Is it weird to see band beat knockoff

1043
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: kind of like three bands and actually have hits when

1044
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: they're knocking off of you guys? And I mean, because

1045
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I see string, I've been waiting to talk about this.

1046
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: Tell you about it, man, it's like keeping good junior thing.

1047
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you know, all right, go ahead. So because

1048
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: I've seen it, I see all my balls like I've

1049
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: seen knockoffs. It's frustrating and and and them get hits.

1050
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: You know, the thing is about those bands a lot

1051
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: of times is or artists. You know a lot of

1052
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: artists are doing it, like just single guys are doing it,

1053
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: and they still can't sell five hundred tickets in their hometown,

1054
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: which is sad. So I mean, I think our thing is,

1055
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're just doing We're doing, keep our head

1056
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: down and writing as good as songs we can write,

1057
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: making good as good records as we can write, and

1058
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: playing as many shows as we can and not just

1059
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: here worldwide, And that's something that when it does hit,

1060
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be something fun to take advantage of, and

1061
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: everybody's going to have a good day that day because

1062
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, oh wow, now we get to

1063
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: see somebuddy who's who's put the work in. Get to

1064
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: see both sides of that success, you know what I mean.

1065
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: Like things like Spotify streams frustrate me too when you

1066
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: bring that up, because I may have twenty millions Spotify streams,

1067
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: and like I have friends are like, hey, it one

1068
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: of my Spotify streams, and like, yeah, how's that working out?

1069
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? How's that working out for you, Like, well,

1070
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm I can't sell a lot of bar yet, but

1071
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: in their seriously one, yeah, it does help a lot,

1072
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but you don't. I don't think it's something

1073
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: like that. You see, there's no translation from Spotify streams

1074
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: to being able to actually go out and make money.

1075
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: And you definite want to see it for sales because yeah,

1076
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: and not because Spotify Apple Music title even I already

1077
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: has gotten the streaming game. Not because they're trying to

1078
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: hurt him, because there are no rules. And like I

1079
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: have a buddy Lee Miller who goes and testifies. It's

1080
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: one of my seven girls with him. Yeah, so like

1081
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: that's like one of my close friends. And so he

1082
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: goes and sits in front of Congress and it's like

1083
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: I did the Billboard. They did this list and it's

1084
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: like the most powerful hundred people in country, which pretty

1085
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: much everybody like that to include everybody. So they put

1086
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: me in there like, hey, what's the question that what's

1087
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: the thing, And I'm like, you gotta pay songwriters, Like

1088
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: that's what That's what my answer was. It's like because

1089
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: Jesse Alexander was in here and I was talking to her,

1090
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: and you know, she wrote the client from mileys IRUs.

1091
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: It's almost like seven formats number one and she's written,

1092
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, I drive your truck for Lee Bryce and

1093
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: she said, I've made more money singing background vocals from

1094
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: streams than I have writing these massive songs because the

1095
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: rules just aren't there. It's will and to watch Lee

1096
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: do that. You've seen those recordings of him, how well

1097
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: spoken is like he's crazy Miller. Oh, Lee Miller, Oh yeah.

1098
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: And I was like I was gonna be that well

1099
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: spoken that No, no, no, I'm like, that's dude. I

1100
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: was giving you the weirdest because I was like, I've

1101
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: never to leave well spoken any bride's really well spoken

1102
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: at four in the morning. Um, but no. Yeah, but

1103
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: Lee's a monster. He's really standing up for all. It's

1104
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: really good because they asked me to go up there

1105
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: one time and do a thing with him and sit

1106
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: on a board me him and Christie Stephano, And I

1107
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: was like, I don't thank you this guy there in

1108
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: d C trying to get them to improve whatever. When

1109
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: you have to look formal, do you put your hair

1110
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: a ponytail or you just leave it down? I mean

1111
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: it's just kind of does what it, does you know

1112
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: I look weird in a ponytail? Um? So yeah, when

1113
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: are you? When are you gonna like James Hetfeld and

1114
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: just completely call it we Maybe next record, maybe next record,

1115
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: But I just don't. I don't look as cool, you know.

1116
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: And I like my long hair, and my kid likes

1117
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: it now too, so it's kind of fun. I got

1118
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: a kid man, Jude, Jude the dude. Do you find

1119
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: yourself though, like living your lifestyle on the road even

1120
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: a little less hard? Yeah, I've had to definitely unless

1121
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: you don't want to get that phone call at the

1122
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, because six and the more and five of

1123
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: the morning that Mama and him are ready to go,

1124
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: whether or not I got hammered the night before. So

1125
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: I kind of I try to eat up a little

1126
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: bit on it. Do you because you like, if you

1127
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: can't sing, you can't you guys can't really play? Do

1128
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: you have to take care of yourself better than they do? No,

1129
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm honestly, I've been really lucky there. I've never I've

1130
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: never had any issues. And I know a lot of

1131
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: my friends Keith and Chase Rice and they did vocal

1132
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: or m yeah a little bit, And so I just

1133
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: I never had to do that. Granted, I've never gone

1134
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: to Talctor and said, hey, check my ship out, so

1135
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: it could be bad, you know what I mean. I

1136
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: don't know, um, but I've never I don't know if

1137
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: it's just the way of saying or whatever, but I've

1138
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: gotten lucky on that one. Granted, if you kick it

1139
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: to her like a c M S four nights and

1140
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: right in Vegas and then you have to go play

1141
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: five shows, it's probably not gonna be good, but you

1142
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: have to hold it back and gives people a kind

1143
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: of a little slightly sucky show because you know you

1144
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: got a bigger one coming up. No, I don't ever

1145
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: do that kind of I've never been that kind of guy.

1146
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: I usually kind of go for it and it'll it'll

1147
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: out somehow. You know. Here's this one, Jake. I can

1148
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: hear you guys doing this. He's on our first record.

1149
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah we did we do this one. Maybe I have

1150
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: heard you guys do That's why I think that, Yes,

1151
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: maybe that's why I saw Drake White yesterday at what

1152
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: he has day a blow together, dude. I saw Drake

1153
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: White yesterday Watershed and he now has a creepy single mustache.

1154
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Have you seen Drake Weather. No, he looked at saw

1155
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: a picture real skinny though skinny and only has like

1156
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: a single mustache. And I walked up to him and

1157
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: he's still wearing the habit. I was like, that's not

1158
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: Drake and I was doing that? Was he what's he

1159
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: doing that for? I don't know. I didn't go him

1160
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 1: talking and I know his wife. I don't know Drake,

1161
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: and but I was like, that's not him. Too skinny,

1162
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: too creepy of the mustache. And then I was looking

1163
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: at pictures of other people playing Watershed. I want to

1164
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: see what was happening around and I was like, this

1165
00:55:54,520 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: freaky Drake that that's the skinny guy with the single mustache. Yeah. Yeah,

1166
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: Do you think about what we're talking about? You walking

1167
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: in with and and said with Steven Tyler, you think

1168
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: of an artist that came in now that we'd know

1169
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: who it was, there was a little frozen when they

1170
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: walked in. How to write with you? Um, it happens

1171
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: with a lot of younger the younger new artists. Uh,

1172
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know who. It doesn't matter,

1173
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: but yees, I mean it happens every now and then,

1174
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: and you don't hear about it until the co writer

1175
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: was like, hey man, they were they're really excited, and

1176
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh cool, you know that's pretty neat.

1177
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: Anybody just kind of made it and you want to

1178
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: say no, yeah, I can't, I mean, because then it

1179
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 1: makes me look. No, it doesn't mean every time Dirk's

1180
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: yes to right with me, he freaks out. Actually saw

1181
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: him on the whale here, but Dirk, he was doing

1182
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: that white tank thing he's drives. But no, I mean,

1183
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. You know, I just try to

1184
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: write songs and that people. I get you planning that, okay,

1185
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, anybody's all right. It's not even a bust

1186
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: at though one I asked a question like who would

1187
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: come in? It's probably a little nervous to write with you.

1188
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know. Man, I'm a pretty big deal, Bobby,

1189
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You don't see me walking down

1190
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: the road. Do you walk? Like when I walk? People notice? Yeah,

1191
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: what are you thinking about the project? Because I know,

1192
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you how I thought. I'll be honestly,

1193
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: I'll see it never worked. It's never gonna work. But

1194
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, Like this is freaking Steven Tyler. It

1195
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: was pretty much my scene. I didn't think it was

1196
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: gonna work at country radio, um, being in a band

1197
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: that is a little left you know. Um. I just

1198
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: and I had heard a lot of the record that

1199
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: they were making, and I love all the people that

1200
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: were involved, and I was like, it kind of felt

1201
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: it kind of felt a little forced at some points,

1202
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, like for the country radio songs that they

1203
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: were thrown out there. I kind of felt like maybe

1204
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: they should have just gone and done a rootsy cool record,

1205
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, and all of Robert Plant but that whole

1206
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: like and just kind of do your own thing and

1207
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: not really try to go straight the throat. Um. But

1208
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: what do I know, it's freaking Steven Tyler. Now I

1209
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: felt the same way. I was like, is there, it

1210
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: never gonna work, But I don't care. When do I

1211
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: get to sit and talk for an hour and then

1212
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: afterward hang out with Steven Tyler. I wish, our hope

1213
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: that whole record would have been more along the lines

1214
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: of what we did, just because it was granted's up

1215
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: my only but like I love hearing him thing like that.

1216
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: But you know, shoot, listen to Jaden and all those

1217
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: uh crying and um or whatever the list of silver

1218
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: Stone video was. I can't remember, but those are like

1219
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: Carrie Underwood songs and these days, you know, I mean,

1220
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: that would work right, and so I guess that's kind

1221
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: of what they were thinking. I don't know. This is

1222
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: my favorite story from you guys. I don't know which

1223
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: one of you it was, because it's like a hundred

1224
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: miles in our area is walking through and we're talking

1225
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 1: about lightning. Uh no, hundred, although it's really good station

1226
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: listening Lightning hundred a lot. It was all ninety three

1227
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: and I used to do afternoons and all I see

1228
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: a fake character. It's called Slappy and Zeus Ways to

1229
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: be after and I think it was your your drummer.

1230
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, just turned my station. And it's like, yeah,

1231
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: I do alternative stations too, and he was I wish

1232
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, we have do use fake

1233
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: names because you know the country guy. Bob's my real name,

1234
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: but I'm like a Slappy and he's like, you're Slappy

1235
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: and Zoos from the Afternoons. I was like yeah, he's

1236
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: like so he thought it was coolers. That was that

1237
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: dude from the alternative station. Then I was the morning guy.

1238
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: That's five million listeners on the radio. You know. He

1239
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: was like like, listen to every afternoon. That's awesome, that's funny.

1240
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, well let's do a country

1241
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: interview now it's Bobby here. Yeah, let me see what else? Like,

1242
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: I got anything else here? I want to up here?

1243
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: Now this is not one I would hear you guys,

1244
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: what song made you the most money of all these?

1245
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: I think probably that one, Beaching. I think that one

1246
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: definitely sold the most. Um probably you know a lot

1247
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: of them, like like some Shine Whiskey probably was pretty

1248
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: good because it was on the chart for a year

1249
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: and it's a two right, Um, I mean the American

1250
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: country love song was a big one, like, um, what

1251
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: are you still getting checks? Four? Of all these? Probably

1252
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: the American country love songs? And then Southern Girls a

1253
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: big one too. Yeah, something that was big A little

1254
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: bit back though, sweet Where was that? Because if you're

1255
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: get flies first Southerning, you don't have to fit early

1256
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: in that second. Yeah, that's a fairly in that that

1257
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: some American bank stuff here. Yeah, like real life Nashville people,

1258
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, they played the cool card with you. Guys.

1259
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: They're like city, No, no, no, that yeah. He's like

1260
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: like you don't even know, you don't even know, Like

1261
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: we used to go watch American Bank. That's a good time.

1262
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not trying to fight with you bad.

1263
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Have you seen me walk? Like? I got my own

1264
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: thing going right doing? What was up with that? What's

1265
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: what's the name changing about? Um? Warner Brothers. We were

1266
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: signed to Warner Brothers l A. Tom Wally was running

1267
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: the label and Big Mishap. We spent millions of dollars

1268
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: on that record, but Bob Rock produced it. Was we

1269
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: did it, recorded it in Maui. It was pretty wild,

1270
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: lived there for like two months. Um, as soon as

1271
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: the record came out, they fired everybody and we got dropped.

1272
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: So it's your classic major label story. We're on the

1273
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: label for seven years and so we it just it

1274
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: was a real huge bummer. So you can't keep the name.

1275
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: They owned the name, you know. I just was done

1276
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: mentally with that whole situation. So that was in December,

1277
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: and then in January of two thousand and eleven, we

1278
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: went in with Dave Cobb and started this band and

1279
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: it's been good ever since. Has it? Yeah, there have

1280
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: been a minute where you been like, I don't know

1281
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: if we can do this anymore, dude. We just we

1282
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: spent the first three years in this band and a

1283
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: van going back and forth to Texas. It was brutal,

1284
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: but we were building, you know what I mean Texas

1285
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: because we signed a manager, signed from with a manager

1286
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: down there, and I just liked the fact that they

1287
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: were people down there making a living. Who's your manager

1288
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: Triple A. Yeah, so Austin, Bruce and George, Yeah, yeah,

1289
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: they're a yeah. Yeah. I mean it was form of

1290
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: JABS in Austin for thirteen years. Home to me. Yeah,

1291
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: So we've spent a lot of time there, and um,

1292
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: it was it was really fun because we got to

1293
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: build this thing down there, and then you know, you

1294
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: hit a little rock and you hit um Memphis and

1295
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: you hit everything in between. You go up into Oklahoma,

1296
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: you go up into Kansas, and so we built the

1297
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: school thing and we got to a point where we

1298
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: couldn't get it any bigger without a partner, so we

1299
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: signed with a label and it's been great. I mean,

1300
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: we've done it all. Everything we've done, we've done our

1301
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: way without anybody else putting any ideas. You know, down

1302
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: there's no other cooks, which is killer. You know, if

1303
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: we need help, we asked for it. I wonder like

1304
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: rascal flats, they don't like to be called the rascal

1305
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: flats like that that pisces them off. They will treat

1306
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: you differently if you do, because they know you don't know,

1307
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: Like they're like, okay, you don't even know you're bones.

1308
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: Stop Like that's like, and people call us cadellec three. Okay,

1309
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: so is it? That's that's my question. We hate that.

1310
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say. That's what I say. Like

1311
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: if some or the number three they spell it out,

1312
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, like what that doesn't matter as much.

1313
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: It's but why okay they're not they're both. I guess

1314
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: it's like because people a lot of times, okay, we've

1315
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: got cut elect three here. It's not his epic a

1316
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: there's three dudes, we are the Cadillite three. You know

1317
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not like you you understand though,

1318
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: that it's such a weird little thing that humans like

1319
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: the word the means nothing. But I do understand how

1320
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: you're saying it's the Cadillect three. But for me, like

1321
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know this is a thing with you, Like

1322
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm learning right now. Well, you wouldn't just go Bobby

1323
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: Bones show you go the Bobby Bones, wouldn't do you

1324
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: not do that? I don't care. It's the word who cares?

1325
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: You know? You said that though, uh, sometimes I listen

1326
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: to it. But now I'm gonna tell you I don't

1327
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: do it and not do it conscious. But you're not

1328
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: worried about it. People be like, hey, I'll go on.

1329
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: That makes more sense than I'm just say. We're playing

1330
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: with Cadillac three. That sucks. Let me know. And you

1331
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: if that's your thing, I'm glad to know that because

1332
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that matter really. But it's just

1333
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: when we go into situations. What makes this mad is

1334
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: when we go into a radio situation or whatever, and

1335
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: obviously this guy is like, you know, he hasn't done

1336
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: any homework, has no idea that the success that we've built,

1337
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, this song thing too, and he gets into Okay,

1338
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: we've got Cadillac three here, so tell me about yourselves,

1339
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of stuff, and you're just like, oh,

1340
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: I hate you man. You know, I don't want to

1341
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: be here at all, right, now, uh, and that's happened

1342
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: to us many times. And then they'll be like, well,

1343
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: what I think we had acoustics? He gets, dude, why

1344
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: don't you play a ballad? I get you get a

1345
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: big Cadillac three. You can't play a ballot? And I said,

1346
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: and played me a while back at Mama's and he goes,

1347
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: we'll play one that you wrote and I go, dude,

1348
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: and we kind of isn't as actually in Arkansas, of

1349
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: all places, it was brutal, but yeah, our radio guy

1350
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: was just like sitting there just going like I can't

1351
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: even say this guy because he's just you know, he's

1352
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: just digging a thing you need. The It's good that

1353
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: I know that because I didn't know that. Well, it's

1354
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: not like a no, I'm not. It is a thing,

1355
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: and I'm glad. I don't want to be them because

1356
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: they don't want to be cooked. Okay, twenty one pilots

1357
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: for example, they like to have their names spelled out.

1358
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: You don't use the number two one. That's why I'm asking,

1359
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: like everybody has their little things that means something to

1360
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: them that people would just be like, you know, just

1361
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: say it. How it bothers KB our Lap still player.

1362
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: Like if we're in a radio station he'll say something

1363
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: to the guy, or if it's written on a on

1364
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: a dressing room sign and it's just as Cadillac three,

1365
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: which is stupid. Think about you if you're reading it.

1366
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: Come on, you want to see the Cadillac three, right, Bobby?

1367
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: You do? You do? But some people make in that

1368
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: you're just named again. There are a million lights and

1369
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: flickers and YouTube videos and bands. I know you don't

1370
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: want to hear this, but maybe you hear it as

1371
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 1: it it's like the dog walks down the street. Maybe

1372
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: it's like the Catallact three. But I'm glad to see

1373
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm and you're not wrong. I just

1374
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: wanted to know and you are. I'm just saying, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1375
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: I am. So what about people who call you TC three?

1376
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: But you go with that and when people know that's

1377
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: the means we're doing something, you know what I mean?

1378
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: When people are saying a nickname for something that means

1379
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: there's something, there's a reason to do that. Oh cool,

1380
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I don't I like that

1381
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: because it's I'm a big fan of like the way

1382
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: that looks written out to because I kind of did

1383
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: the first drawing of it. We were broken, didn't have

1384
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: nobody do any artwork talks where the best stuff comes

1385
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: from the no, no, dude, we still use a lot

1386
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: of stuff, all the skulls and stuff. It's like the

1387
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: earliest you know, we talked about it and you want

1388
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: to talking about the radio watch We talk about it

1389
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: off or on. But it's like early art when people

1390
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: are like, it's probably be in trouble for saying. But

1391
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: like Kirk o'bain when he was really really messed up,

1392
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: created the best. Like Steve Jobs was like LSD open

1393
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: my eyeballs and with my brain to things I never

1394
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: and I've never for thinking me, I've never touched the Drugger.

1395
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: I drink alcohol or because my family all died from it.

1396
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: Like they're like, so I just knew from I was

1397
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: like eight years old, Like I'm done, Like I will

1398
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: die of it. If I I would love it like

1399
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: I would love right now, I'd love it like a god.

1400
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: It would be amazing. I'd be the best editor because

1401
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't I do you talk about it? I do

1402
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: everything like zero or one hundred. I would turn it

1403
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: into a game and yes, yes, I would win until

1404
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: it was over, but I would spe I were talking

1405
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: to see he'd be like, I don't remember years of

1406
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: my life, so you'd say, like, I have no idea

1407
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: having the needle. That thing hard is pretty the needle.

1408
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: I I'm scared. It must make me too, it must

1409
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: be so good feeling. But I couldn't even do it

1410
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: the first time. I guess unless I was so messed

1411
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: up that the needle wouldn't even bother me. I don't know.

1412
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a needle guy. I don't know. It's like

1413
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: to be drunk. It seems could be amazing. Though, it's

1414
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: pretty fun, That's what I'm saying. Like it seems like

1415
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: I can't even go to sleep at night because I'm

1416
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: so anxious. Yeah, pretty good. My friends are like, and

1417
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: I've had people like it's smoke weed, like it'll make you,

1418
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: it'll take you down. But in Tennessee it's still illegal

1419
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: like where we just were, and well we were in California.

1420
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, actually no, I don't think Washington. It's I

1421
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 1: was reading about Listen, I'm a nerd, right, I was

1422
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: reading about crops and Washington. Number one's apples Number two

1423
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: potatoes number. That's why I go play does and I

1424
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: just read. I like to read about it everywhere I

1425
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: am people I am and like, marijuana is like third

1426
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: or fourth on the list. But it's a whole let's

1427
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: legalize that. I think maybe medicinally. It's maybe they're not

1428
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: recreational head or something. Alright, anything else you want to say.

1429
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm good man, Yeah, I think I'm good too. I've

1430
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: learned a little bit. Yeah, let's see. I was looking

1431
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: at it. Make sure nobody yells at me for not

1432
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: saying that, because you guys have darkhard fans and and

1433
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: Dard fans. Are you guys? Are Dart fans are annoying? Sometimes? Man,

1434
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: that's good. My wife actually said she she goes, are

1435
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: you sure this is not set up by one of

1436
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: your crazy fans? I was like, who'd you hear this from?

1437
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: I go no. I talked to the producer and everything.

1438
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: It should be good. And then I's trying to think

1439
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: about all the way over. I was like, what he

1440
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: does drive over to somebody's house to house? I'm like,

1441
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: oh no. And then then I pulled up I kind

1442
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: of looked scoped it from I like, uh, who was

1443
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: it came over. We've done again. You talk about rights,

1444
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: I an ad right in the past. Whatever. He came

1445
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: over and he walked around. He was like, that has

1446
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: to be bigger, and I was like, I was like, dude,

1447
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: I'll live by myself. What do I I don't I'm good,

1448
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: great house man. Yeah, it's cool. I don't neighbor. It's

1449
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: like I like it. Yeah, And I don't have an

1450
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: HR way Like there's no there's no rules. It's like

1451
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: international waters up here. I can wrap them a trash

1452
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: on the street. Nobody cares. You can take a dump

1453
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: out there, nobody, no problem. You can. You can even sideways.

1454
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: But again it was I bought it all right, all right,

1455
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: cat Like three. I don't know when you hear you're

1456
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna hear this, but if you're hearing this before the

1457
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: record comes out, because August. Okay, So the cat Like

1458
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: three record called Legend Legacy legacy, but I know you

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Speaker 1: called Legends. And I was like, dang, oh Kelsey did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kelsey did. That's not as good. It's not. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: the legacy like August from what I call him Catty three,

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Speaker 1: cat Like The cat Like Three. It's been fun. I

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Speaker 1: pretty sure you come out. Thanks, Yeah, it's good, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's it episodes. Is Mike over all right? Jaren Johnson

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