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Speaker 1: Fly from the Mercedes Benz Interview lounge. All right, this

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Speaker 1: room smells delicious.

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Speaker 2: Gosh.

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Speaker 3: So there's a song called snake right recorded by a

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Speaker 3: great artist, Nora Fetti.

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Speaker 1: You say your name. I don't want to screw it up.

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Speaker 4: You killed it.

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Speaker 1: It was probably by accident.

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Speaker 3: So Norah and her producers are thinking, what if we

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Speaker 3: just added that like a little to it. And so said, well,

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Speaker 3: why don't you get Jason Derrillo, And of course Nora said, oh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but how do you get Jason Derillo. We can't even

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Speaker 3: get him to wake up to come into our show,

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Speaker 3: at least at least on time.

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Speaker 1: You're used to this, Come on now.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I didn't know you were shady. I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: We've been shaving Jason for how many years now, Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, a long time.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy, but I mean, I thank god that he

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Speaker 4: even showed up to the music video.

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Speaker 1: Shoot.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's insane. But no, all jokes aside, all jesuitside.

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Speaker 4: He's been showing up for everything.

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Speaker 3: You do.

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Speaker 1: Show up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the early days, when he was trying to

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Speaker 3: get his career started, he would show up to the

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Speaker 4: Woke.

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Speaker 5: When he first started, he and I did a karaoke

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Speaker 5: night together at some CD bar in New York City.

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Speaker 5: Our feet were stuck to the floor.

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Speaker 2: You remember, Yeah, I did everything known to man. That's

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Speaker 2: when I started. I performed on top of pickup trucks.

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Speaker 2: I mean me and iHeart Yeah, yeah, have me doing

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Speaker 2: everything I love? That?

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Speaker 4: Isn't that the best part of the journey though?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember it's memories, right, So like I

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Speaker 2: could be like remember when remember when you know, if

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Speaker 2: not as fun.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And of course was starring in several of

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Speaker 3: our iHeartRadio jingle Ball concerts where by the end of

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Speaker 3: his set he was almost totally naked.

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Speaker 1: On the stage.

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Speaker 3: You had to pay a couple of times. But Nora,

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Speaker 3: tell us about your story. Where are you originally from?

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Speaker 4: So I'm from Toronto, born and raised and my parents

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Speaker 4: from Moroccan North African. Left Toronto when I was twenty

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Speaker 4: two to twenty three, went to India to pursue a

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Speaker 4: Bollywood career with no ties to India nothing. I just

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Speaker 4: I don't know what hit me that day, and I'm

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Speaker 4: just like, I'm going to do this and picked up

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Speaker 4: all my bags, moved to India and started a long,

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Speaker 3: There you go, Well, it just so happens our friend

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Speaker 3: may that Gandhi is here. She's our co host, great

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Speaker 3: great granddaughter of Mahama Gandhi.

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Speaker 4: You we're telling me yesterday, that is insane.

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Speaker 6: It's insane to me too. Wow, I'm just sound impressed.

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Speaker 4: He needs to pay our respects, not to say okay

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Speaker 4: yahong with you.

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Speaker 1: So we were talking.

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Speaker 3: We were talking, we call her Gandhi. We're talking to

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Speaker 3: you know, I read up on Nora and you said

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Speaker 4: You say, oh, yeah, India, of course yeah. Because look, honestly,

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Speaker 4: before I went to India, I was just Nora from

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Speaker 6: What do you think of that, Kandi, I would like

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Speaker 6: to know your tricks. I don't have the same love

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Speaker 6: for me, Yes, I would love to know.

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Speaker 3: What you're doing for political reasons or historical reasons.

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Speaker 6: No, So it's interesting that they're very accepting of a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and a culture's many. You say that, it's funny

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Speaker 4: It's because they don't put in the effort to learn

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Speaker 4: is what they love. When Jason went for India promo tour,

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Speaker 4: they fell in love with him because he wanted to

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Speaker 4: He was wearing the India and you know traditional where

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Speaker 1: Love them, right.

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Speaker 6: But if you are an Indian and you leave, yeah, there's.

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Speaker 4: I mean leave India. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I was born what they call an ABCD, the

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Speaker 6: love that because you know, why, why are you dressing

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Speaker 4: But do you get that from Indians in the West.

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Speaker 6: In India, oh interestings in the West are very embracing

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Speaker 4: That's crazy because when I think of immigrants in Canada,

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Speaker 4: what happened with us growing up, Like we're Moroccans. We

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Speaker 4: Many skirts, chilling, going out, having fun, and you know,

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Speaker 4: a little too extreme. That's how I feel about NRIs

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Speaker 6: I think it's also really generational because I think a

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Speaker 4: That's for everyone. You've not seen have you seen North

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Evans, so right, it's across the globe, you know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you go through that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm Scottish. Yeah, I don't know. We're kind

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Speaker 6: Jason, your parents are from another country, right, Yeah? Do

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Speaker 1: Any ha hate going on?

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Speaker 2: No, I think I've been really embraced by the Haitian culture.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's for most of the families.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and here you are both today. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to talk about why you're both here today. So you're

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Speaker 3: wondering what Nora and Jason Derulo have in common. It's

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Speaker 3: a song called Snake. It started with Snake.

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Speaker 4: It started with Snake.

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Speaker 3: So you Nora recorded Snake, and then Jason was added

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Speaker 3: to Snake and then but you you had never met.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I mean, look, I followed his career

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Speaker 2: So so when you graduated high school last you were.

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Speaker 4: You were also I was the scene and you were like.

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Speaker 1: What eight forty three? No, but he was a kid, I.

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Speaker 4: Was.

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Speaker 1: You don't believe anything. So what happened.

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Speaker 3: Was he agreed to do the addition to the song,

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Speaker 3: and he did it that day and it was in

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Speaker 4: He facetimed me. Actually, Tommy Brown, the producer who suggested

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Speaker 4: that Jason hop on the track. His reasons for why

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Speaker 4: he wanted Jason was so apt. He's like, look, he's

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Speaker 4: a performer, he dances so well, he's got an amazing voice,

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Speaker 4: and he understands the global marketing.

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Speaker 1: He has everything.

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Speaker 4: He's right, and I was super excited. I didn't think

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Speaker 4: so but he agreed, which was amazing. And then they

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Speaker 4: FaceTime me at six o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 2: How do you say?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, listen, hey, how are you Like? Hey?

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Speaker 4: He's like, okay, I need a Hindi word for like baby,

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Speaker 4: like a cute version of that. So I kind of

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Speaker 4: linked them up with that. And then I'm watching them

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Speaker 4: record this track.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so you watched him on face face time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like tolm me at FaceTime. He's like, look, it's happening.

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Speaker 1: That must have been such a surreal icanic panic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, iconic, because I'm like, now I need to start

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Speaker 4: planning the music video and he needs to be out

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Speaker 4: of this world.

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Speaker 1: And the video itself is a work of art.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful, and of course it has all the all

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Speaker 3: of the colors, all of the movement.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to my Moroccan team, the hour director.

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Speaker 4: That was his vision. Wow, which word did you guys pick?

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Speaker 2: John?

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Speaker 1: Okay again.

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Speaker 3: Which means baby, yeah, life, I love?

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Speaker 4: Like my love, my life, my baby babes, little brad babes?

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Speaker 3: So do you see you two actually hitting a stage

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Speaker 3: I don't know whatever. Do you do you ever see

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Speaker 4: We were supposed to perform, but I didn't get anyways.

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Speaker 4: No, no, just probably taking time to get here. Do

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Speaker 7: no hate here?

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Speaker 4: Can you give me my one?

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Speaker 2: I thought, I was like, like, what, what's taking so long?

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Speaker 1: I can get your puppy.

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Speaker 4: I want visa because we need to like go on

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Speaker 3: Okay, well we need to make I think that would

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Speaker 4: But no, I think it's going to happen. I have

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Speaker 3: Be like, if we can get Ba here with you, surely, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's he's doing a TV show called his

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Speaker 1: Maybe you should stop talking about it on a radio station.

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Speaker 4: You never know, maybe probably help help maybe, Like someone

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Speaker 3: Well here you are United States federally licensed radio station.

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Speaker 1: They're listening at all moments.

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Speaker 4: Listen, And I was thinking I might just do it.

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Speaker 4: Why it's funny, it's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the title and the order in which they.

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Speaker 6: Are and solo. If that's really about what it's about,

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Speaker 1: I tell you, Jason.

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Speaker 3: As we said earlier, we've had this relationship with Jason

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Speaker 3: Jason was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Pretend you're not here, Jason, you you.

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Speaker 5: He's been nice since day one, and he stayed nice

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Speaker 3: But it's just you. You are truly as incredible. You

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Speaker 4: A force like the force.

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Speaker 1: I love that the two.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you, And it's been it's

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Speaker 3: You know, Jason came into this business as an incredible

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Speaker 4: He was telling me yesterday he was a stiff.

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Speaker 4: So you know what, when it comes to videos, it's

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Speaker 1: Wait.

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Speaker 1: So I could see you rock down every day.

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Speaker 4: He looked like a sultan, like literally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love There is one thing you know, hear

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Speaker 1: In a second.

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Speaker 3: At the very end of Snake, you hear a zipper

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Speaker 1: We've heard a lot of stuff from Jason from never

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Speaker 4: One of the zipper is actually the signature of Parker,

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, my mind went to the cutter.

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Speaker 3: So look, if if you're just turning us on and

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Speaker 3: you missed this, this incredible conversation with Jason Drello and

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Speaker 3: Nora Fete, uh, make sure you listen to us Elvis

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Speaker 3: dren on demand wherever you get your podcast, because this

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Speaker 1: It's not old, but he's an old best friend. Oh damn, man, morning,

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Speaker 2: I was in middle school.

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Speaker 4: I said, our old friend younger than me.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I said our old friend, but not old friends.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to back out of that awful insult. Anyway, Uh, Snake,

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