Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I appreciate all of you hanging out with
Speaker 1: us as we are rolling through the post Memorial Day
Speaker 1: weekend festivities. We want to again, as I said on Friday,
Speaker 1: reiterate to everyone out there who's family friends have made
Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice that the reason we all have the
Speaker 1: freedoms we do every single day is because of the
Speaker 1: sacrifices so many have made throughout the course of nearly
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years of American history. We will
Speaker 1: talk some about that. I had a spectacular weekend trip
Speaker 1: to the NDY five hundred. I had never been before.
Speaker 1: Thanks to the Good Ranchers crew for taking me there,
Speaker 1: Ben and his wife Corley. We had a phenomenal time
Speaker 1: running all around with them. I think there are videos
Speaker 1: up at clayanbuck dot com you can see the incredible
Speaker 1: time that we all had. I met a lot of
Speaker 1: you in the Indianapolis area, and there's three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand people there, so quite a bit of you
Speaker 1: had to be Clay and Buck listeners OutKick readers, Fox
Speaker 1: news viewers. Not a surprise that there would be a
Speaker 1: lot of you that we would run into during the
Speaker 1: course of that weekend. It was awesome. Hospitality was fabulous
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and so I appreciate everybody who said hi,
Speaker 1: and the Good Ranchers Crew, Good Ranchers dot Com code Clay.
Speaker 1: Those guys are doing amazing work. You get forty dollars
Speaker 1: off if you go there. But they have a fabulous
Speaker 1: business and they're awesome people. So I think you guys
Speaker 1: will be hearing more and more from them coming forward.
Speaker 1: But we had just a spectacular time. Want to tell
Speaker 1: you Buck is out by the way, has the flu
Speaker 1: and he's hoping to be back tomorrow. So he will
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. I will be out. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go to this new Universal Studios park with my kids.
Speaker 1: We're going to be on the road for a few days.
Speaker 1: School is finally out, so I'm going to be on
Speaker 1: the road with my kids taking him to that amusement park,
Speaker 1: which my wife's probably not happy that I just announced,
Speaker 1: but that is where we will be for the next
Speaker 1: several days. So they have opened a brand new Universal
Speaker 1: Studios park, and my kids were excited for the roller coaster.
Speaker 1: So that is where Dad and Mom are going to
Speaker 1: be here. But Buck should be back tomorrow, says he
Speaker 1: should be back healthy. But that is where he is today.
Speaker 1: So I want to dive into There's so many different
Speaker 1: stories that are out there. Riley Gaines, by the way,
Speaker 1: is going to join us midway through today's program, and
Speaker 1: she is going to do that because Trump has really
Speaker 1: taken a two by four to the state of California
Speaker 1: over men being allowed to participate in women's sports. And
Speaker 1: we will talk about talking about that with her in
Speaker 1: the next hour, as that has turned into a major
Speaker 1: issue in Gavin Newsom, who still has an open invite
Speaker 1: to come on this program but has somehow not found
Speaker 1: the time, said it was very unfair, completely unfair, I
Speaker 1: think was his phrase, to allow men to compete in
Speaker 1: women's sports. Well, it's happening and at the state championship
Speaker 1: level of California, and the President has called it out.
Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about during the course
Speaker 1: of the program, but I want to dive into a
Speaker 1: couple of stories that I thought happening over the weekend
Speaker 1: and earlier today were representative of the lies that so
Speaker 1: many of us have had to deal with over the
Speaker 1: last four or five years. And I want to start
Speaker 1: with good news. It's good news if you didn't get
Speaker 1: the shot. Those of you who had to get the
Speaker 1: COVID shot are still furious, those of you whose kids
Speaker 1: had to get the COVID shot to go to college
Speaker 1: or wherever it was. The Health and Human Services Secretary
Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy, I believe the CDC Director Marty McCarey, who
Speaker 1: we need to get on the program. We had him
Speaker 1: on a lot during the COVID era. On this program.
Speaker 1: They announced this morning that they are removing the COVID
Speaker 1: shot from the recommended vaccine quotation marks. For those of
Speaker 1: you watching on video, the recommended vaccine shot lineup, and
Speaker 1: we have that audio. This just happened in the last
Speaker 1: hour or so. Listen to that.
Speaker 2: I couldn't be more pleased to announce that, as of today,
Speaker 2: the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy pregnant women
Speaker 2: has been removed from the CDC recommended immunization schedule. Last year,
Speaker 2: the Biden administration urged healthy children to get yet another
Speaker 2: COVID shot, despite the lack of any political data to
Speaker 2: support the repeat booster strategy.
Speaker 1: In children. That ends today. It's common sense, that's good science.
Speaker 3: There's no evidence healthy kids need it today, and most
Speaker 3: countries have stopped recommending it for children.
Speaker 2: Or now one step close you realizing President Trump's promise
Speaker 2: to make America healthy again.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's an extraordinary part of our national story. Now
Speaker 1: that this shot which they told you would prevent COVID
Speaker 1: from spreading, which they told you that you had to
Speaker 1: get or you were going to be fired from your job,
Speaker 1: think the Lord the Supreme Court stood up against it,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Remember, maybe we can grab this audio because
Speaker 1: I know a lot of it gets memory. Hold said
Speaker 1: that his patience was running short for those of you
Speaker 1: out there that had not gotten the COVID shot, like me,
Speaker 1: that we were going to experience a winter of death.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing that comment while I was chilling on
Speaker 1: a beach in Florida and thinking, Yeah, the wins or
Speaker 1: a death's not that bad down here in Florida right now.
Speaker 1: I think I set out a tweet about it, and
Speaker 1: you had to joke about it because it was so
Speaker 1: infuriating that anybody was being forced to get this COVID shot.
Speaker 1: Buck was forced to get the COVID shot to go
Speaker 1: to his brother's wedding in New York. You couldn't go
Speaker 1: to McDonald's some parts of places like New York and
Speaker 1: la I never got the shot. I feel fortunate that
Speaker 1: I did not. I feel fortunate that my young kids
Speaker 1: did not because it was never mandated for them. But
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you felt that you were
Speaker 1: obligated to get it. And it is just completely indefensible
Speaker 1: that this entire era has been allowed to happen, and
Speaker 1: that many of the people that wagged their finger and
Speaker 1: lectured you about the COVID shot are now just pretending
Speaker 1: they never said any of the things that they did.
Speaker 1: And I want to hit you because I do think
Speaker 1: it's important with the data here, and I would say
Speaker 1: that many of you are listening to me today and
Speaker 1: listen to us on this program on a regular basis
Speaker 1: because you are still angry about what they said to
Speaker 1: you during COVID and what they tried to do to you.
Speaker 1: Remember this poll, This was from the rasmuscin and it
Speaker 1: broke down percentages of people twenty percent, sorry, nearly sixty
Speaker 1: percent of Democrats in January of twenty twenty two. This
Speaker 1: is January of twenty twenty two believed that the unvaccinated
Speaker 1: people like me and many of you listening right now
Speaker 1: and UNCOVID shotted because not really a vaccine. Sixty percent
Speaker 1: of Democrats believe that you should have been fined if
Speaker 1: you refuse to get the COVID shot. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: Nearly sixty percent of Democrats believed that those of us
Speaker 1: who didn't get the COVID shot should be locked at home.
Speaker 1: This is nearly over. Forty percent of Democrats believed that
Speaker 1: those who didn't get the COVID shot should be sent
Speaker 1: to quarantine camps. Should your children be taken from you
Speaker 1: if you are not getting them the COVID shot? Thirty
Speaker 1: percent of Democrats said yes. And for people like me
Speaker 1: and buck Over, about fifty percent of Democrats said that
Speaker 1: people who criticize the COVID shot should be fined and imprisoned.
Speaker 1: I shared that audio, that clip from that poll yesterday
Speaker 1: because it says if people want to pretend all of
Speaker 1: this never happened, and I see it. In conjunction with Jake,
Speaker 1: Tapper went on with Piers Morgan, and Piers Morgan asked
Speaker 1: him about the Biden cognitive and physical decline cover up
Speaker 1: and Tapper now, who had a show on CNN for
Speaker 1: the entire Biden administration. He now says, you know, in
Speaker 1: many ways, the cover up of Biden's health, physical, goal
Speaker 1: and mental was worse than Watergate. Listen to this.
Speaker 4: It is a scandal. Yes, it is, it is, it is.
Speaker 4: It is without question, and maybe even worse than Watergate
Speaker 4: in some way because Richard Nixon was in control of
Speaker 4: his faculties when he wasn't drinking. We quote Archibald Cox,
Speaker 4: who was a Watergate investigator, talking about how powerful the
Speaker 4: presidency is and how presidents get surrounded by people who
Speaker 4: have a vested interest in keeping that president propped up.
Speaker 1: Okay, worse than Watergate, and by the way, I think
Speaker 1: it was worse than Watergate. The decision for the media
Speaker 1: to not cover Biden's mental and physical decline, and now
Speaker 1: the COVID shot being pulled for kids. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question, how can anyone trust anyone in legacy
Speaker 1: media at this point if they told you at CNN, MSNBC, AB, NBCCBS,
Speaker 1: Fox did not buy and large, but the Washington Post
Speaker 1: and the New York Times, all of those major legacy
Speaker 1: media outlets that I just ran through, if they all
Speaker 1: told you that your kids needed to get the COVID
Speaker 1: shot or they were in danger of death. And if
Speaker 1: they all told you that Biden was the best mental
Speaker 1: and physical version of himself, and that anybody criticizing him
Speaker 1: was spreading disinformation and misinformation, how can anyone trust these people? Again?
Speaker 1: How can you if you worked at all those places
Speaker 1: and you got the two biggest stories maybe of your
Speaker 1: career COVID And I'm not just talking, by the way,
Speaker 1: about the shot, but now that the SHOT's being pulled
Speaker 1: for kids, I do think it's important to point out
Speaker 1: that they tried to force kids to get the shot
Speaker 1: in order to be able to go to school in
Speaker 1: many parts of the country. Now that they're pulling this shot,
Speaker 1: and now that everybody suddenly says, hey, you know what, yeah,
Speaker 1: Biden mentally and physically he wasn't up for the job,
Speaker 1: how can anyone Those are the two I would argue,
Speaker 1: those are the two biggest stories in the last certainly
Speaker 1: twenty years. If you go back to nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: what has mattered more than those two things? COVID and
Speaker 1: Biden's mental and physical decline. They got all of that wrong.
Speaker 1: How do they stop jobs? How do they still have
Speaker 1: any audience at all? How in the world do these
Speaker 1: people still have the ability to make a living. We
Speaker 1: get things wrong as part of being human. All of
Speaker 1: us are imperfect. But if you listen to this program,
Speaker 1: many of you did what I did and didn't get
Speaker 1: your kids the COVID chot. I didn't get it myself.
Speaker 1: Many of you knew early on that Biden didn't have
Speaker 1: the mental and physical capacity to be president. Both of
Speaker 1: those things we've now been proven right on on this program.
Speaker 1: In an honest, transparent, fully cognizant media universe, this show
Speaker 1: would do as it has continue to grow, and the
Speaker 1: legacy media buy and large would collapse. And you know
Speaker 1: what's happened that over time, all that matters in media
Speaker 1: is trust. Do you trust people to be honest with
Speaker 1: you and analyze complex situations and give you, to the
Speaker 1: best of their ability, good advice to discuss complex issues
Speaker 1: in an intelligent fashion. That is the goal to me
Speaker 1: of anyone that sits behind this mic, of anyone that
Speaker 1: talks to a large audience. Every single day. We passed
Speaker 1: that test here. Now, make no mistake. What they are
Speaker 1: attempting to do is memory hold the entire COVID era
Speaker 1: and pretend that they never could have known better because
Speaker 1: the experts got it wrong, not them. And then the
Speaker 1: thing that they're actually experts in, which is theoretically politics
Speaker 1: and analyzing presidents. They're claiming that they just couldn't see
Speaker 1: past the incredible cover up that the Biden administration has
Speaker 1: put in place. I would submit to you that you
Speaker 1: should not let them off the hook. You should remember
Speaker 1: this failure for the rest of their career. And I
Speaker 1: would also submit to you, you know who the biggest
Speaker 1: advertisers are on CNN and MSNBC buy large drug companies.
Speaker 1: Do you think it was coincidental that they whiffed on
Speaker 1: the value of the COVID shot when all of these
Speaker 1: drug companies were spending hundreds of millions of dollars billions
Speaker 1: of dollars to advertise on their programs. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: And this is one where I think RFK Junior, who's
Speaker 1: a lifelong Democrat, is actually right. Why in the world
Speaker 1: are they accepting all of this money for prescription drug
Speaker 1: advertisements on programs where they regularly have to cover prescription drugs,
Speaker 1: and whether or not they're necessary, I would submit to
Speaker 1: you it's not a coincidence that the prescription drug companies
Speaker 1: got beneficial coverage while spending hundreds of millions, if not
Speaker 1: billions of dollars. And then we all know that it
Speaker 1: wasn't that they got fooled, it was that they aren't
Speaker 1: actual journalists. They are propaganda's stooges for Democrats, and they
Speaker 1: weren't willing to tell their audience the truth about Joe
Speaker 1: Biden until it became clear Biden was never going to
Speaker 1: be in power again. We'll talk about all this, but
Speaker 1: I think the conjunction of these two stories coming together
Speaker 1: is actually a moment of reckoning for the legacy media,
Speaker 1: which is leading to many of them being destroyed. And
Speaker 1: I think this is such a huge story that I
Speaker 1: think it needs to be hammered home, and we'll have
Speaker 1: some fun doing that today, among many other things. But
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Speaker 1: back tomorrow. I am rolling solo with you here on
Speaker 1: the Tuesday after a Memorial Day weekend, and we have
Speaker 1: been breaking down a lot. If you missed it earlier today,
Speaker 1: the COVID shot has been pulled off the recommended shot
Speaker 1: list for kids and pregnant women. A lot of you
Speaker 1: out there are saying, finally, and you're very thankful that
Speaker 1: you never got any of the COVID shots for your
Speaker 1: kid or yourself, or you are resentful that because of
Speaker 1: where you were going to school or where you worked,
Speaker 1: that in order to maintain your employment or maintain your
Speaker 1: school eligibility, you had to get the shot. And we
Speaker 1: bring in now Riley Gaines. We got a lot to
Speaker 1: dive into with her. But Riley, let me take you
Speaker 1: back in time with COVID for a minute before we
Speaker 1: get into the craziness of the sports universe in terms
Speaker 1: of men competing as women. You guys, you were a
Speaker 1: University of Kentucky SEC champion swimmer. What do you remember
Speaker 1: about what you guys had to do during COVID, because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is just getting totally
Speaker 1: memory hold. If I remember correctly, you guys had to
Speaker 1: wear masks sometimes between laps or craziness for swimming. What
Speaker 1: was it like even at UK?
Speaker 5: You know, saying it out loud now you almost forget
Speaker 5: you lived it. You almost forget the insanity, the nonsensicalness
Speaker 5: of it. COVID hit, of course, in March of twenty twenty,
Speaker 5: which was the end of my sophomore year. Bar the
Speaker 5: fact we were robbed of an NCAA Championships that year, which,
Speaker 5: of course, is the meat you work all year, so
Speaker 5: it's the meat you work all your life. For about
Speaker 5: three days before we were supposed to leave, that meat
Speaker 5: was very suddenly and swiftly canceled. We were sent home
Speaker 5: for a few months. We eventually got to come back
Speaker 5: to school, and upon returning, of course, it was the
Speaker 5: immediate mandatory vaccines. It was the contact tracing. I mean,
Speaker 5: they made it miserable. We couldn't go to class. They
Speaker 5: told us me specifically, being that I was the team captain.
Speaker 5: They told me I had to get the vaccine or
Speaker 5: else I'd be hurting my team. But of course this
Speaker 5: didn't sit right with me, right, being young, being healthy,
Speaker 5: I had already had COVID at that point, which, being
Speaker 5: a biology student, I understood the antibodies to be the
Speaker 5: most natural and best form of immunity. So I pushed
Speaker 5: back on this and I said, no, I don't, to
Speaker 5: which I said, well, can you define mandatory for me?
Speaker 5: And that is when they lost the plot. It was
Speaker 5: almost as if they hadn't prepared for what to say.
Speaker 5: They weren't given a script of what to say when
Speaker 5: asked this question, and so that's when they responded back, well,
Speaker 5: we really mean highly suggested. And I said, well, you
Speaker 5: can take that and shove it because I'm not getting
Speaker 5: the vaccine. But let me tell you, Clay, the rest
Speaker 5: of my collegiate career, so all of my junior year,
Speaker 5: all of my senior year, they made it miserable for me.
Speaker 5: Had to go to testing every single week. They made
Speaker 5: it at five am to make it what they described
Speaker 5: as inconvenient for us. I had to wear a mask
Speaker 5: in the weight room. We did have to wear a
Speaker 5: mask in between laps when we got out of the
Speaker 5: water on the pool deck. I mean we essentially waterboarded
Speaker 5: ourselves every single day for the next two years.
Speaker 1: You had to wear mask between laps in the pool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they tried everything. I mean they thought of things like, well,
Speaker 5: we'll have some people start on one end of the
Speaker 5: end of the pool, We'll have other people start on
Speaker 5: the other end of the pool, will alternate lanes. I mean,
Speaker 5: like I said, none of it made sense. Again, and
Speaker 5: we're playing a sport. We're in chlorine, right, which is
Speaker 5: going to kill any sort of you know, germ or
Speaker 5: whatever it is. So all of it, from top to
Speaker 5: bottom was utterly ridiculous, and we all recognize it to
Speaker 5: be true. But I will say people got the vaccine
Speaker 5: out of convenience to make it easier for them to
Speaker 5: be able to compete. I remember they sat me down
Speaker 5: and they said, Riley, you know again you're the team captain.
Speaker 5: We have a big meet against University of Alabama, a
Speaker 5: big SEC rivalry. You're not going to get to go
Speaker 5: if you don't get the vaccine, to which again I
Speaker 5: just I knew that was BS, and so I said,
Speaker 5: that's fine, I won't go then, And of course I
Speaker 5: got to go to University of Alabama. No, I never
Speaker 5: got the vaccine, and.
Speaker 1: I bet you're glad that you did. And let me
Speaker 1: let me kind of build on this too. So many
Speaker 1: young people. I think I started off the program talking
Speaker 1: about the lies that we're told about COVID, and I
Speaker 1: think certainly the lies that we're told about Biden. But
Speaker 1: you mentioned something that I think is important. I know
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there listening that have kids'
Speaker 1: grandkids may have happen to you out there listening as well.
Speaker 1: I still can't get my hands wrapped around it totally.
Speaker 1: You were around twenty right in March of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: when all this chaos started. Roughly, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you had been sixteen instead, because
Speaker 1: it sucked for you at twenty, But imagine that it
Speaker 1: is March of twenty twenty. You are gearing up for
Speaker 1: whatever spring sport you're involved in in the country. Right now,
Speaker 1: you're gearing up for your junior year prompt in prom season.
Speaker 1: All that sixteen seventeen eighteen. I talk now to kids
Speaker 1: on college campuses, Riley, and I'm sure you too. In
Speaker 1: many parts of the country, these kids went home in
Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty as sixteen year olds, and they
Speaker 1: basically didn't see the kids they went to high school
Speaker 1: with in a big group again in many parts of
Speaker 1: the country, until they graduated and the next year in
Speaker 1: June of whatever it would have been twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two some of these places. So you miss
Speaker 1: your junior year, end of year, You miss everything that
Speaker 1: happens during your senior year. For everybody out there listening,
Speaker 1: think about how transformative usually you're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen year
Speaker 1: old era is. It is not surprising to me that
Speaker 1: there are so many kids out there that are angry
Speaker 1: about what was taken from them. You're close to that
Speaker 1: same age. You're on college campuses all the time. Do
Speaker 1: you hear that from kids today?
Speaker 5: I hear that all the time, not only from my peers,
Speaker 5: from my friends, from people I had classes with. But Clay,
Speaker 5: I've got a younger sister and a younger brother. My
Speaker 5: brother was about that sixteen year old age group during
Speaker 5: the time of COVID in twenty twenty, and he was
Speaker 5: in the middle of its football season. They were on
Speaker 5: pace to be state champions. He went to Donaldson Christian Academy.
Speaker 5: That all of that was taken from them. My little sister,
Speaker 5: she was in middle school transitioning to high school. I mean,
Speaker 5: it was horrible. My oldest sister, she graduated college from
Speaker 5: Ole Miss in twenty twenty. So they had this virtual
Speaker 5: graduation where she got to walk the stage so they
Speaker 5: called it virtually where everyone sat on zoom. It was
Speaker 5: the craziest thing. And even now, again let's say four
Speaker 5: years post COVID era, the way the educational realm has
Speaker 5: changed is I mean transformative. It is totally different. My
Speaker 5: sister's high school experience again, she's will be a junior
Speaker 5: next year in high school. Her experience now is totally
Speaker 5: different than when I was in high school. Granted now
Speaker 5: it's getting kind of up there, what eight or so
Speaker 5: years ago, but even still totally totally different experience that
Speaker 5: my younger sister has had compared to the experience that
Speaker 5: I had in high school.
Speaker 1: So the data is out there that young people overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: broke in the direction of Trump in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Young men in particular. You mentioned you have a brother.
Speaker 1: I've got three teenage boy, two teenage boys, one ten
Speaker 1: year old. But I see it from all of them
Speaker 1: that they're just fed up. They're angry, and I think
Speaker 1: it's not only COVID, it's the lies that they were told.
Speaker 1: And I want to share this. Earlier today, Trump sent
Speaker 1: out a truth post and said California, under the leadership
Speaker 1: of radical left democrat Gavin Newsom, continues to illegally allow
Speaker 1: men to play in women's sports. This week, a transition
Speaker 1: male athlete at a major event won everything now qualified
Speaker 1: to compete in the state finals next weekend. As a male,
Speaker 1: he was less than an average competitor. As a female.
Speaker 1: This transition person is practically unbeatable. This is not fair,
Speaker 1: totally demeaning to women and girls. He then out the
Speaker 1: Governor Newsom, who has said is unfair. He says, I
Speaker 1: will speak with him today to find out which way
Speaker 1: he wants to go. In the meantime, I'm ordering local authorities,
Speaker 1: if necessary, to not allow a transition person to compete
Speaker 1: at the state finals. This is a totally ridiculous situation.
Speaker 1: Can you believe years after you swam against Leah Thomas?
Speaker 1: Now what three years ago, if I remember correctly, that
Speaker 1: we are still in a position where, if anything, Democrats
Speaker 1: have hardened their stance on this being okay.
Speaker 5: You know what, Clay, I truthfully imagined. I knew this,
Speaker 5: of course would be an election issue, it would get
Speaker 5: us through November of twenty twenty four. But I really
Speaker 5: believed that, of course we would see this red wave,
Speaker 5: which we saw, and I believed after that the Democrats
Speaker 5: would slowly begin to recant, to distance themselves from their
Speaker 5: voting records, from their positions they've taken on totally outland
Speaker 5: is crazy stuff such as men and women's sports. But
Speaker 5: that is not at all what they have done. They
Speaker 5: have double, tripled, quadrupled down on this insanity. I love
Speaker 5: how Trump words that he is still plain in his language,
Speaker 5: of course, which is another reason why I think specifically
Speaker 5: young people love him, are drawn to him. He's so authentic.
Speaker 5: He says, as a male, he was less than an
Speaker 5: average competitor. And that's so true. That is virtually the
Speaker 5: case in every scenario, every situation, every circumstance where we
Speaker 5: see this happening, we don't see it going the other way.
Speaker 5: It is virtually always mediocre boys, mediocre men who couldn't
Speaker 5: hack it in their own division or maybe ranking in
Speaker 5: the bottom of the barrel, right, they switch over to
Speaker 5: the women's league, and they substantially skyrocket in the rankings
Speaker 5: whatever that system may be. At the state level. In
Speaker 5: case and what he's describing here in California, this boy
Speaker 5: by the name of ab Hernandez. Maybe I'm sure you
Speaker 5: remember Clay. About a week or so ago, a video
Speaker 5: went viral of this young girl who placed second in California,
Speaker 5: her name is rys Hogan in the triple jump. But
Speaker 5: it was only after sure everyone exited the podium, with
Speaker 5: the man, of course, standing atop the podium where she
Speaker 5: jumps on the first place podium. And I thought that
Speaker 5: was the most remarkably brave display that really we've seen
Speaker 5: thus far. I mean, we've seen some pretty awesome things,
Speaker 5: right Like I think of the girls in West Virginia,
Speaker 5: the middle schoolers who boycotted and shot put, which au
Speaker 5: Kick was the first to report on, By the way,
Speaker 5: I think of several instances of girls boycotting. But this
Speaker 5: I thought was really the perfect way to embody and
Speaker 5: highlight that that man atop the podium was a total
Speaker 5: fraud and everyone recognizes it.
Speaker 1: You got into it with Jamel Hill a little bit
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Jamel Hill is a crazy person who
Speaker 1: used to work at ESPN. She kind of the female
Speaker 1: version maybe of Keith Olberman, who you've also gotten into
Speaker 1: it over with I just three years ago, if only
Speaker 1: women had swim in your NCAA championship, where do you
Speaker 1: think you'd be?
Speaker 5: Well, my plan what I was post graduating from University
Speaker 5: of Kentucky. I was in dental school, actually set to
Speaker 5: specialize in in deedonics, so root canals. Basically, that's what
Speaker 5: I had planned. That's what I was set to do.
Speaker 5: That's what I prepared to do. I scored in the
Speaker 5: top percentile of the DAT nationally, which is the dental
Speaker 5: admissions test, the test to get into dental school. I
Speaker 5: had been awarded tens of thousands of dollars in scholarship
Speaker 5: funds to continue my education in dentistry, So that was
Speaker 5: certainly the plan. I had married my husband. Our life
Speaker 5: would look a whole lot different had that man that's
Speaker 5: six foot four again, as President Trump wards that mediocre
Speaker 5: men not been in the pool with us, in the
Speaker 5: locker room with us that day.
Speaker 1: So I think this is so, this is so important
Speaker 1: because you get attacked, I think unfairly, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: on a level that you never would have ever anticipated
Speaker 1: for just being a woman who believes women's sports should
Speaker 1: be made up of women. And I love when I
Speaker 1: see tweets JK. Rowling just fearlessness, because this is not
Speaker 1: a complicated issue. But the only reason you have ended
Speaker 1: up doing what you are doing is because one you're fearless,
Speaker 1: but two you dealt with this directly and you never
Speaker 1: want any other girls or women to ever have to
Speaker 1: deal with this either, and yet you get attacked for that.
Speaker 1: I just think it's really important to hammer home that's it.
Speaker 5: That's it, the stance that I've taken. Of course, I've
Speaker 5: been painted to be this super radical, crazy right wing grister,
Speaker 5: as Jamel Hill would call it. But I mean, I
Speaker 5: still live my daily life like with my husband, with
Speaker 5: my family, with my animals and my dogs, we live
Speaker 5: on a flower farm, like I'm still me. The only
Speaker 5: I guess radical position that I've taken is that men
Speaker 5: cannot become women, and that there are two sexes, and
Speaker 5: that each sex is deserving of equal opportunity of privacy
Speaker 5: and of safety. But several times now, of course yuh
Speaker 5: Ki's oberman. I genuine think this man is like needs
Speaker 5: to be in an asylum somewhere. I don't think he's stable,
Speaker 5: like we should be doing like welfare checks on him
Speaker 5: every November fifth. But you've got Jamel Hill who has
Speaker 5: told me on multiple occasions now over the past few
Speaker 5: years that I need to thank Leah Thomas every single
Speaker 5: day of the rest of my life for getting me famous. Again, reminder,
Speaker 5: I did not ask for this, I did not want this.
Speaker 5: I simply took a position that ninety nine one percent
Speaker 5: really of common sense people have taken, and I would
Speaker 5: say ninety to ninety five percent of every day common
Speaker 5: sense Americans who I mean, it's a position they take too,
Speaker 5: but they just weren't willing to say it three years ago.
Speaker 5: Now you compare that to twenty twenty five, and the
Speaker 5: landscape has shifted, right. People, of course, are becoming more bold,
Speaker 5: more willing to say what everyone already knows to be true.
Speaker 5: And with that the response that we see from the left,
Speaker 5: from the other side, people who don't have common sense,
Speaker 5: people who vehemently hate women, people like Jamel Hill, former
Speaker 5: ESPN hosts, of course, that is to increase as well.
Speaker 5: So I say, bring it on. You know, lots of
Speaker 5: things that bother me, that scare me, but Jammel Hill
Speaker 5: and her professional race bidding, certainly is it one of them.
Speaker 1: I love the easy question of and I've used this
Speaker 1: and I think it just really I would encourage you
Speaker 1: guys to deploy it in your own life. People attack
Speaker 1: you on this issue, just say, hey, I don't think
Speaker 1: men should be able to compete in women's sports. That's
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's your opinion, that's the opinion of a
Speaker 1: lot of people listening out to us right now. Isn't
Speaker 1: it amazing how rarely, if ever, anybody on the left
Speaker 1: attacking you will ever say what their opinion on the
Speaker 1: issue is, of course.
Speaker 5: And it's because I believe deep down they don't think
Speaker 5: it either, right, these Democrats, whether it's it's these elected officials,
Speaker 5: people in Congress, whether it is people like Jammel Hill,
Speaker 5: these especially actually people like Jammel Hill, sports reporters who Underson,
Speaker 5: who have been reporting on both men and women's sports
Speaker 5: for decades, for years. Of course they don't believe that
Speaker 5: men can magically become women with the same physical capabilities.
Speaker 5: Of course they don't believe that. But for some reason
Speaker 5: it has just been this fill that they are willing
Speaker 5: to die on. I don't know if it's the virtue signaling.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's the fear of the wrath
Speaker 5: from the other side. I don't know if they're so
Speaker 5: bought into like this oppression Olympics that they that they're
Speaker 5: willing to proclaim it subtly right. But you're right, people
Speaker 5: like Jamel Hill. I asked her the other day, you know,
Speaker 5: great to hear from you. This is the stance that
Speaker 5: I've taken. Would love an answer from you. You know,
Speaker 5: you're a self proclaimed women's sports enthusiast. How do you
Speaker 5: feel about men competing in women's sports. And I followed
Speaker 5: it up by saying, silence is an answer to which,
Speaker 5: of course, she did not answer the question, so that
Speaker 5: makes it very clear to me where she stands on this.
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Speaker 1: man who had a major announcement, part of a trio
Speaker 1: that had a major announcement, UH breaking down the absolute
Speaker 1: latest on the COVID shot Doctor Marty McCarey, FDA Commissioner.
Speaker 1: He's author of blind Spots, When Medicine Gets It Wrong
Speaker 1: and What it Means for our Health. We had him
Speaker 1: on this program quite a lot during the COVID era.
Speaker 1: He is fantastic. Congrats, I don't know if we've had
Speaker 1: you on since you were officially confirmed, but congrats on
Speaker 1: becoming FDA Commissioner, doctor McCarey. And what can you tell
Speaker 1: us about what you guys just announced this this morning?
Speaker 1: We played the audio, but what exactly should people out
Speaker 1: there know about kids and pregnant women when it comes
Speaker 1: to the COVID shot.
Speaker 3: Well, great to be with you, Clay, and it's good
Speaker 3: to be back on your show. You know, we are
Speaker 3: bringing back gold standard science and common sense, and we've
Speaker 3: got a dilemma in this country, and that is the
Speaker 3: government keeps pushing every year that every healthy young girl
Speaker 3: needs a shot every year for the rest of their life.
Speaker 3: And the regulatory process has been set up such that
Speaker 3: no clinical trial or clinical data needs to be submitted
Speaker 3: each year for the acdator rubber stamped these COVID shots
Speaker 3: for young, healthy people, and so we're bringing back science
Speaker 3: to the process. We are saying that in order for
Speaker 3: this shot to be approved by the FDA in healthy people,
Speaker 3: we need to see some clinical trial data to support
Speaker 3: that it works and that it's safe and effective. We
Speaker 3: can't just blindly represtand these applications each year in perpetuity.
Speaker 3: Forever there was a theory that people could benefit from
Speaker 3: these shots each year. The theory is unproven. We'd like
Speaker 3: to see some scientific support.
Speaker 1: When you look back now on Joe Biden saying things
Speaker 1: like our patients is wearing thin and that we were
Speaker 1: going to have a winter of death, will there ever
Speaker 1: really be any consequences. I know Joe Biden's no longer president,
Speaker 1: but for people out there who felt pressured because of
Speaker 1: the actions of the federal government, I'm still angry about it.
Speaker 1: I know probably you still are. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of our audiences. Is this to you. The things that
Speaker 1: are happening now a form of sort of resolution and
Speaker 1: restitution for people out there who feel like they were
Speaker 1: led astray.
Speaker 3: Well, people want closure because they feel that they've been
Speaker 3: lied to about some of the issues around COVID and
Speaker 3: the vaccine mandates, the vaccine booster mandates for college kids
Speaker 3: who are completely healthy. And so when you look at
Speaker 3: what's happening today, you've got this medical elite still living
Speaker 3: on an island disconnected from most of the American public.
Speaker 3: You have statistics that are mind boggling that speak to
Speaker 3: that disconnect, like eighty five percent of healthcare workers did
Speaker 3: not get the COVID booster last season. So on one hand,
Speaker 3: we've had this government medical establishment machine pounding and insisting
Speaker 3: that everybody gets a booster every year for the rest
Speaker 3: of their life, even if they're totally healthy, and a
Speaker 3: public that has basically moved on and said, no, thank you,
Speaker 3: We don't really trust you as much anymore. If you
Speaker 3: look at the numbers on public trust, they've really gone
Speaker 3: down the toilet. The amount of the percent of Americans
Speaker 3: that trust doctors and hospitals went from seventy one percent
Speaker 3: just before COVID to forty percent last year. That's a
Speaker 3: gigantic thirty one point drop, and it's because the worst
Speaker 3: thing you can do in the field of medicine is
Speaker 3: to put out a recommendation with intense absolutism when the
Speaker 3: data just is not there to support it. It's an idea,
Speaker 3: it's a theory.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you have the role that you
Speaker 1: do now because you were right on so much and
Speaker 1: you were willing to take the slings and arrows that
Speaker 1: came with it. So was doctor Bodacharias, so was RFK Junior.
Speaker 1: I give credit to the Wall Street Journal editorial board,
Speaker 1: to Bucks show, to this show for places out there
Speaker 1: that we're willing to have these conversations. How much personal
Speaker 1: validation and now do you take for something that I'm
Speaker 1: sure when you were at Johns Hopkins was getting you
Speaker 1: unrelenting criticism to be in the position that you are
Speaker 1: in now alongside of doctor Bodicharia, who was very outspoken
Speaker 1: at Stanford in a way that he suffered a lot
Speaker 1: of personal consequences, and certainly RFK Junior. Now the three
Speaker 1: of you who made this announcement today, how much personal
Speaker 1: vindication do you feel and how much do you think
Speaker 1: you're vindicating science, which is about opposing ideas, Like the
Speaker 1: whole idea of science is to challenge conventional authority. That's
Speaker 1: the very basis of science itself. This world that we
Speaker 1: ended up in where I'm the expert, you aren't allowed
Speaker 1: to challenge doctor Fauci saying I am the science. It's
Speaker 1: actually the antithesis of everything that science, in many ways
Speaker 1: should represent.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the censorship industrial complex that silenced expert physicians
Speaker 3: from respected academic institutions that simply disagreed with doctor Fauci
Speaker 3: or questions about the absolutism of the COVID recommendations. That
Speaker 3: was an ugly chapter in our nation's history, and I
Speaker 3: hope we never go back there. We're doing a lot
Speaker 3: to promote transparency and civil discourse now. I hope we
Speaker 3: can rebuild trust and the scientific process of wrestling and
Speaker 3: debating on ideas. At the FDA, we're doing a lot
Speaker 3: now with forums and bringing in people with different ideas
Speaker 3: to debate how we can do things differently, how we
Speaker 3: can address our chronic disease epidemic, how we can rethink
Speaker 3: our food supply.
Speaker 1: But to some.
Speaker 3: Degree, to be honest, Clay, I feel like we lost
Speaker 3: in some of the battles that we fought during COVID.
Speaker 3: In the Biden administration, we fought like crazy to get
Speaker 3: the schools back open, and it was very divided. It
Speaker 3: was very polarizing, and for some crazy reason, it fell
Speaker 3: along partisan lines it shouldn't have, and we fought like
Speaker 3: crazy for the kids. For the most part, we were
Speaker 3: not able to get the schools back open during most
Speaker 3: of that, you know, after the fall of twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: for the next for almost a year after that. So
Speaker 3: it's a sad chapter. You know, kids are still reeling
Speaker 3: back and they're trying to recover. We have to, you know,
Speaker 3: almost rescue these kids now and give them special attention
Speaker 3: because of the learning loss. And I think the greatest
Speaker 3: untold story of the COVID battles was that the populations
Speaker 3: hurt the worst were the poor and minority communities in
Speaker 3: the United States. I practiced at the time at Johns
Speaker 3: Hopkins and in East Baltimore. I mean, you close those
Speaker 3: schools and send the kids home with an iPad. It's
Speaker 3: not like your country club suburbs that are wealthy, and
Speaker 3: those kids took a horrible beating from these misguided COVID policies.
Speaker 3: So we're trying to rebuild public trust. Secretary Kennedy's got
Speaker 3: a great vision. Jay Bodichari is doing it. Amendment Oz
Speaker 3: is a trans transformational leader at CMS. And we're doing
Speaker 3: everything we can at the FDA to focus on our
Speaker 3: mission of delivering more cures for the American public and
Speaker 3: healthier food for children.
Speaker 1: What do you think, having been through these battles, you
Speaker 1: just hammered And I think it's the worst part of COVID, frankly,
Speaker 1: is the fact that the poorest among us, the public
Speaker 1: school kids. I was public school kid K to twelve,
Speaker 1: A lot of them left and didn't come back to
Speaker 1: school for over a year. In physical person, these are
Speaker 1: the kids that have the less resources, don't have private tutors,
Speaker 1: don't have the ability to go to private school like
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's kids do. When you hear Randy Weingarten now
Speaker 1: say that she was working super hard to try to
Speaker 1: reopen schools, what's your reaction.
Speaker 6: Well, her group edited the school opening policy of the
Speaker 6: CDC to make it stricter, and those edits were incorporated in.
Speaker 3: The final version that was published by the Biden administration
Speaker 3: and the CDC. And that was tragic because you did
Speaker 3: not have a scientific document. You had a document that
Speaker 3: was interfered with by a special interest group at the
Speaker 3: expense of children. So there's a lot of lessons we
Speaker 3: should learn from COVID, but I think the biggest lesson
Speaker 3: is that we should let scientists be scientists and do
Speaker 3: their job.
Speaker 1: The announcement again today, you came on this show for years,
Speaker 1: and I want to give you credit. I mean, my
Speaker 1: two youngest kids were certainly not ever going to get
Speaker 1: the COVID shot based on the data, and we talked
Speaker 1: a lot about natural immunity and the impact that it
Speaker 1: was going to have. It's been five years, and I
Speaker 1: know for many people out there it feel still like
Speaker 1: the snap of fingers. What has to happen for public
Speaker 1: trust in health to return to where it was pre COVID.
Speaker 3: I think we have to be successful as a new
Speaker 3: team coming in. I think we have to be incredibly transparent.
Speaker 3: I think we have to the big issues of our
Speaker 3: day that we are not talking about. You know, COVID
Speaker 3: was a snapshot into how you saw a ruling class
Speaker 3: in America create rules for themselves that benefit it themselves.
Speaker 3: They could send their kids to private schools, the country
Speaker 3: clubs were booming throughout COVID. They for a lot of
Speaker 3: the zoomocracy in America. They were going to work now
Speaker 3: in their pajamas on video conferencing. Come to Inner City Baltimore.
Speaker 3: It was an entirely different story, and you saw sort
Speaker 3: of the tyranny of the ruling class right rules for themselves.
Speaker 3: And it's not just with COVID, it is also with
Speaker 3: the great public health issues of our day. Why do
Speaker 3: forty percent of American kids have a chronic disease? If
Speaker 3: you think about what we've been taught in medical school.
Speaker 3: It's this weird dynamic where we sort of blame kids
Speaker 3: for being sick. We don't talk about the food supplies
Speaker 3: the availability of healthy foods, food chemicals, food ingredients, all
Speaker 3: the stuff that are coming up in the Make America
Speaker 3: Healthy Again report that came out a week ago. That
Speaker 3: is a fresh new perspective because we can't just keep
Speaker 3: talking about financing our broken healthcare system. We have to
Speaker 3: talk about fixing it, and to fix it, we have
Speaker 3: to get at these root causes. So we're changing the
Speaker 3: conversation from just talking about chemotherapy and insulin to actually
Speaker 3: talking about environmental exposures and the food we eat and
Speaker 3: school lunch programs. You're seeing action on the SNAP waivers
Speaker 3: by the USDA so that government dollars aren't going to
Speaker 3: all this sugary junk food in the SNAP program. You're
Speaker 3: seeing some movement we've never seen before. So to rebuild
Speaker 3: public trust, in my opinion, Clay, we'll do it best
Speaker 3: by succeeding at actually making progress on improving the health
Speaker 3: of the population by addressing these root causes.
Speaker 1: Last question for you, when you are out traveling and
Speaker 1: we're talking, doctor Martin McCarey, the FDA commissioner. His book
Speaker 1: is I want to make sure that I get this right.
Speaker 1: The most recent book is Ali texts me that again,
Speaker 1: I'll get it before we leave blind spots. When you
Speaker 1: still see people wearing masks going on airplanes, when you
Speaker 1: still see kids, sometimes I can't believe this is happening,
Speaker 1: still wearing masks. What do you think?
Speaker 3: Well, part of me thinks I don't know what their
Speaker 3: personal clinical situation is. But the other part of me
Speaker 3: thinks it may be somebody who's entirely young and healthy,
Speaker 3: who has been misled and given a false sense of
Speaker 3: security that if they do this one mitigation step that
Speaker 3: somehow they're going to help achieve a COVID zero world.
Speaker 3: Which remember, for a lot of COVID there was actually
Speaker 3: this mindset that we would get to zero COVID, that
Speaker 3: we would eradicate the virus. And so when I see somebody,
Speaker 3: I think, I don't blame them, I blame the people
Speaker 3: who have given them the impression that if you wear
Speaker 3: a mask in public every day for the rest of
Speaker 3: your life, as a young, healthy person, you're going to
Speaker 3: somehow live a healthier, greater life. Kids have been had
Speaker 3: their face covered for nearly three years over some of
Speaker 3: this dogma in parts of the country, and the kids
Speaker 3: are sad. I mean the kids. There's one in four
Speaker 3: teen girls is being treated for depression, and so there
Speaker 3: are statistics that tell us we've got to not just
Speaker 3: have a myopic focus on viral transmission of one virus,
Speaker 3: but instead treat the entire person as a living, beautiful
Speaker 3: human being.
Speaker 6: And that's where I.
Speaker 5: Hope we can go.
Speaker 1: Doctor Marty mccairy, Congratulations, FDA Commissioner. The book Blind Spots
Speaker 1: when medicine gets it wrong and what it means for
Speaker 1: our health. Thank you for fighting so hard during COVID
Speaker 1: and thank you for fighting so hard for a still
Speaker 1: big announcement today. Appreciate the times.
Speaker 6: Good to be with you.
Speaker 3: Thanks kay.
Speaker 1: Doctor Marney McCarey one of the heroes, along with doctor Bodicharia.
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Speaker 1: This is from the New York Times, doing a deep
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Speaker 1: I think you guys are really going to like it.
Speaker 1: If you're audiobook people, I'll be reading it. Buck has
Speaker 1: got a great new book that's going to be out
Speaker 1: in January two, so we'll have a couple of good books.
Speaker 1: And I imagine that he's going to be reading his
Speaker 1: book too. So for those of you that are going
Speaker 1: to be on the road and don't necessarily want to
Speaker 1: read the book itself, you can get the audio version,
Speaker 1: but it's up on Amazon. It's only fourteen bucks and
Speaker 1: it'll be right there. And I appreciate President Trump for
Speaker 1: endorsing the book. They said, hey, how do you want
Speaker 1: to announce the book? And I said, well, I'd like
Speaker 1: for President Trump to announce it. I didn't know if
Speaker 1: he would, But on Sunday night they popped me and said, hey,
Speaker 1: President just he's going to be endorsing your book. He
Speaker 1: loves it. He's excited about the concept. And Trump gets
Speaker 1: it right, Trump gets young men. But I want to
Speaker 1: to talk to you, if you've got kids or grandkids,
Speaker 1: I want to hit you with a couple of stories.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we don't see the world through the eyes of
Speaker 1: people who are of different ages than us, even though
Speaker 1: we might see many of the same things that they do.
Speaker 1: And I've got two stories that are examples and anecdotes
Speaker 1: that are in the book that really kind of crystallize
Speaker 1: the world for me. You guys know, I have three boys,
Speaker 1: so I think about this quite a lot. Right now.
Speaker 1: They are seventeen, fourteen, and ten, one who's going to
Speaker 1: be a rising senior, rising ninth grader, rising fifth grader,
Speaker 1: so fairly different ages. But in the COVID era. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, my then nine year old, my middle son,
Speaker 1: like a lot of your kids are grandkids, was obsessed
Speaker 1: with football cards, basketball cards, baseball cards. I love them
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. My boys got really into
Speaker 1: them as well. YouTube has really I think fueled this
Speaker 1: because you un pack, you open these, you break, as
Speaker 1: they call it, these cards, and you go through and
Speaker 1: you look at them and they have all sorts of
Speaker 1: special cards. Really very cool. I mean, it takes me
Speaker 1: back in time every time I walk into a card
Speaker 1: shop with my boys, and it just reminds me of
Speaker 1: being in the nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties for many of
Speaker 1: you sixties seventies, whenever you were into two thousands baseball cards,
Speaker 1: football cards, basketball cards. And we were going to Target
Speaker 1: during the COVID era, everything you know, buying large shutdown.
Speaker 1: My kids are really fired up about cards even more.
Speaker 1: This is when YouTube it kind of took off. People
Speaker 1: card values skyrocket, a lot of people sitting around watching.
Speaker 1: And we walked into Target, and this is before the
Speaker 1: Target tuck bathing suits went crazy, before Target's Pride Month insanity.
Speaker 1: We walked in and my nine year old points to
Speaker 1: the very first clothing disc play in our local target.
Speaker 1: This is Franklin, Tennessee. This is a red county in
Speaker 1: a red state. I'm not talking about walking in on
Speaker 1: in Times Square or something into a target. This is Franklin,
Speaker 1: Tennessee where I live in Williamson County, just south of Nashville, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: red county, red state. And he just said they would
Speaker 1: never have anything like and I'm paraphrasing him, they would
Speaker 1: never have that for us. And I didn't really know
Speaker 1: what he was talking about. He looked over. He said
Speaker 1: they would never and there's this huge display all of
Speaker 1: girl power t shirts. Girls rule, girls, you know, dominate
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and girl power. He said, they would
Speaker 1: never sell boy power shirts. Dad thought, you know, it's
Speaker 1: really very interest I mean, I hadn't thought about it
Speaker 1: because I'm a generation older than him, and the generation
Speaker 1: that I grew up in is boys and girls should
Speaker 1: be equal. Boys and girls should all be able to
Speaker 1: be doctors or lawyers. You should all be able to
Speaker 1: pursue whatever career you want to. We should allow, regardless
Speaker 1: of whether you're a boy or girl, girls and boys
Speaker 1: to have equal success. And I went to law school
Speaker 1: a Vanderbilt and met his mom there. There were more
Speaker 1: girls in my law school class than boys, and there
Speaker 1: are way more girls now that graduate from college than
Speaker 1: boys who graduate from college, like sixty forty. And you
Speaker 1: can imagine if sixty percent of college degrees still went
Speaker 1: to men instead of women, we would hear about it
Speaker 1: all the time. It would be one of the top
Speaker 1: talking points. Oh look, how sexist, Look how the patriarchy
Speaker 1: still dominates. I mean, we're talking about sixty percent of
Speaker 1: college degrees go to women, and the majority now of
Speaker 1: graduate degrees go to women too. And yet you walk
Speaker 1: into a Target store, according to my then nine year old,
Speaker 1: and they get the message all the time, girls rule.
Speaker 1: Boys basically stink and they would never have a boy
Speaker 1: power t shirt. And he was right. And shortly thereafter
Speaker 1: they go to public school. KA six, all my boys have.
Speaker 1: One of their friends came in to the house and
Speaker 1: he was talking about they had been having a history
Speaker 1: lesson at school, and the history lesson that he had
Speaker 1: taken as a young white kid was white people, white boys,
Speaker 1: white men ruin everything. And he was kind of jokingly
Speaker 1: sitting around and he was like, you know, mister Clay,
Speaker 1: they tell us that we have all this power and
Speaker 1: he's like, my mom doesn't even let me pick what
Speaker 1: I get to eat for dinner. And it's funny, but
Speaker 1: it's also kind of sad because we've raised this entire
Speaker 1: gym generation of boys that has been told not just
Speaker 1: white kids, Black kids, Asian kids, Hispanic kids, hey, being
Speaker 1: a man, being a boy, there's something wrong with it.
Speaker 1: Your masculinity is toxic. And what I grapple with in
Speaker 1: this book is imagine that we raised an entire generation
Speaker 1: of boys and we told them that their identity was toxic,
Speaker 1: and then we shut down their schools, and we shut
Speaker 1: down their sports teams, and we told them that COVID
Speaker 1: was dangerous and masculinity is toxic, and they didn't get
Speaker 1: to go to prom, and they didn't get to finish
Speaker 1: their basketball season or their soccer seasons. And young girls
Speaker 1: are part of this too, but I think boys in
Speaker 1: particular is what I focused on because of the data.
Speaker 1: They're profoundly angry. Young white, Hispanic, Asian and Black men
Speaker 1: are profoundly angry. And I really think that Trump, even
Speaker 1: though he's their grandfather, channels their anger at the establishment
Speaker 1: that took away part of their youth, that told all
Speaker 1: of them at birth. Hey, you're toxic because you're masculine.
Speaker 1: Is it any wonder that they would be deeply searching
Speaker 1: for purpose in life? And then you downgrade religion, You
Speaker 1: tell them that being a provider is somewhat toxic too,
Speaker 1: that they should be beta male versions of themselves. They
Speaker 1: are fundamentally rejecting what I would call is the girl
Speaker 1: power era, and they're saying, there's nothing wrong with being
Speaker 1: a boy, there's nothing wrong with growing up to be
Speaker 1: a man. And I think that a lot of moms
Speaker 1: out there right now are listening because you're raising boys.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of grandmas are looking around
Speaker 1: like when did all the men in the world turn
Speaker 1: into pussy willows? And I think that Trump has channeled
Speaker 1: that anger. And I also think that the younger boys
Speaker 1: are actually more conservative than the young boys who broke
Speaker 1: in huge numbers. And there's a big data analysis in
Speaker 1: this book Balls and again, you got to grab people's attention.
Speaker 1: There's a big part in the book. Do you know
Speaker 1: the two trumpiest voting groups in America in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four election were men over the age of sixty
Speaker 1: five and young men twenty four and younger I bet
Speaker 1: never in history have young men and older men been
Speaker 1: more aligned than they are right now. And the older
Speaker 1: men are like, this whole generation BS. But you know what,
Speaker 1: the younger men are saying, You're right, Grandpa, This whole
Speaker 1: generation is BS. Now. People like me are kind of
Speaker 1: in the middle right because I think we grew up
Speaker 1: in the era of Hey, women should be able to
Speaker 1: be successful. Yeah, good, go be a doctor, go be
Speaker 1: a lawyer. That's fine. But I think this younger generation,
Speaker 1: it's moved from women should be successful to men are bad.
Speaker 1: We have dragged down men to elevate women. And I
Speaker 1: think they see it, they feel it, they're being taught it.
Speaker 1: And so this book that I wrote is a complete
Speaker 1: examination of that era, and I don't think anybody else
Speaker 1: has told the story. Again, comes through the world of sports, COVID,
Speaker 1: All of it rolls together to create what may be
Speaker 1: the most conservative generation that any of us have ever
Speaker 1: seen in terms of young men. And I see it
Speaker 1: as a dad because the younger men are moving even
Speaker 1: more conservative, and the line of demarcation to me is COVID.
Speaker 1: COVID was the breaking point, the point in time where
Speaker 1: a lot of these young men said no, we're being
Speaker 1: lied to. If you lied to me about COVID, why
Speaker 1: should I listen to you about gender issues? Why should
Speaker 1: I trust you on anything? And I think Trump and
Speaker 1: his disruptive bravery. I'll talk about that in a second
Speaker 1: when I come back, connects with them on a visceral level. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic,
Speaker 1: because not just white kids, it's young men of all ages.
Speaker 1: The data is reflecting. Let's talk about it when you
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