1 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: So Billy and mikey A have left me to my 2 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: own devices here on stupidity. 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: They will join me in just a minute for an 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: interview we're going to do. 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that in just a second. They 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: will not join me for this open I have no 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: idea what, but they're not here. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: So listen. We are going to speak to Anne Ligori, who. 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Has written a book Life on the Green, Lessons and 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Wisdom from Legends of Golf. Now, if you listen to 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: me regularly and this show, you know that I don't 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: love a lot of things, but two things I do 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: love are wfan and golf. So Anne Ligory has written 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: a book on golf, and she also hosts a Sunday show, 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Golf Show, which she has for a long time now 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: on WFAA. 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 2: And that's how I knew the Dame and Billy and Mike. 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: You think I'm a dork because I love things all 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: things WFA Top five Things that I love Number five, 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: debting company, number four, cannabis number three, golf number two, golfing. 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: While on cannabis, wait a second, I'm going to leave 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: out my family, all right. Number four, Cannabis number three, 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: golf number two, wfan and number one my family. 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: How about that? It's a good list. 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: So anyway, and Ligory is like myself as an author. 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: Check out my book at Stutatt's book dot com. My 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: personal record book. We have finally done it, my personal 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: record book. We're just waiting for Billy to write this chapter. Anyway, 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Life on the Green, Lessons and Wisdom from Legends of Golf, 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: written by An Ligori. It's available on pre sale right 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: now wherever you get your books. 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Go check it out. She is great. 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: It seems like a really interesting book. I'm looking forward 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: to speaking within about this book. Billy and Mike yea, 35 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: you are going to join me because they could help 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: me do a three minute open so uh, anyway, I 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: love both of them and I love well, No I don't. 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: They're not my top five. They should have been, all right, ol. 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: I uh number one, Billy, number. 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: Two, Mikey, how about that? I got everyone in. 41 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Anyway, Life on the Green Lessons of Wisdom from Legends 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: of Golf. And Legory is the author. She's also a 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: host on w f A N and I am looking 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: very forward, very much forward to speaking with her about 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: her new book. A couple of authors cutting it up 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: here we. 47 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: Go, n I see your Jets Globo back there as all 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: that stuff. 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you wear a bunch of jet finds. Yes, I am. 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: Actually let's start right there. 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: I an, what is so awesome about mikey A having 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: a Jets logo? There's something awesome about it. I've been 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: a fan of this team for forty years. All they 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: do is great and misery for me. 55 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 3: I know. 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm you know, I'm half half the time 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 5: in New York, half the time in Florida, so I 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 5: have to listen to all the Jets banter on fan 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: you know. 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, nice still laughing at me. I think Billy was 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: laughing at me because I'm such a dork. I'm such 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: a I'm such a WFA and groupie, a fan of 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: wfan that I actually knew that you had for many, 64 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: many years, because I've listened to it. A Sunday show 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: in season on WFA N about golf, and they think 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: of dorky. 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: No, it's cool. 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 5: It's called talking Golf. It resumes April seventh from AUGUSTA. 69 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 5: Oh but before that, you know, I was on for 70 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: twenty five years with that show. Hey, Loglorya, what's the story. 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: I was the first woman to host a Collins sports 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: show on the fan, and that show here twenty five 73 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: straight years on the weekends. 74 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Wow, trailblazer, you are hey, you are yeah? Yes, and 75 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: a Suffolk County at a Suffolk County Hall of Famer correct, 76 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: I can't. 77 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: Yeah right, I'm going in with Keith Hernandez of all people, 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 5: and I covered that World Series back in eighty six. 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: I can't believe it. 80 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: How do I get to the Nasau County Hall of Fame. 81 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm in the NASA. I grew up in Nasau County. 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: Do they have a Nassau County Hall of Fame? 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 84 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Ann mcgory's book is Life on the Green, Lessons and 85 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Wisdom from Legends of Golf. Sat down with twelve legendary 86 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: golfers and I'm very excited to speak to you. 87 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: And let's start here if. 88 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: You don't mind, Where did your love, where did your 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: passion of golf come from? Well? 90 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 5: I was always very athletic when I was a kid, 91 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: but I played every sport but golf. I grew up 92 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 5: in a little town called Grexville, Ohio, and you know, 93 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 5: we played team sports. I played tennis, I played basketball, volleyball, 94 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 5: I ran track, but I didn't play golf until years 95 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 5: later when I took it as a pe elective at 96 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 5: University of South Florida and Tampa. And then when I 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 5: had the show on the Golf Channel, I was the 98 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 5: first woman who host his primetime show on the Golf Channel. 99 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 5: In the early days with the Golf Channel, I started 100 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: getting all these great invitations to play golf, and I 101 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 5: figured I better take some lessons so I know what 102 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 5: I'm doing. And you know, I was a good athlete 103 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 5: as a young person, but golf it's very humbling. 104 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 4: As you know, I assume your plays too. 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, yeah, yeah, it's help be a. 106 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: Great athlete, but it's. 107 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Live on a golf course. And you think I'd be better? 108 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we all do. 109 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 5: I mean, but you know, you look at all the 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: great athletes, you know, Michael Jordan, and Wayne Gretzky and and. 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahone, they just they played try to play golf. 112 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: Tom Brady. You saw Tom Brady dribble the. 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: Ball off the tee at the at and t I mean, 114 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 5: they're humbled by golf. It's the most difficult sport of 115 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 5: any So I didn't start playing golf until I was 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: in my twenties pretty later, much later in life. 117 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: So when you're hosting on the Golf Channel and you 118 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: talked about some of the invitations, you would get what 119 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: was the coolest, most unique invitation, and Legory received the 120 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: play golf. 121 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 5: Well, I played at the Bob Hope Plastic years ago 122 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 5: in the desert in California. 123 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: That was its awesome. 124 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 5: Yogi BA back then he hosted it and he drive 125 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 5: around in his golf cart and said hello to everybody. 126 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 5: And you know, a lot I'm playing a lot of 127 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 5: celebrity golf events. But I have to say my favorite 128 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 5: golf destination is Ireland. I love the Emerald Isle, I 129 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: love links golf. I get to go over there quite often, 130 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 5: and I just love playing different courses. And there's something 131 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 5: special about playing links courses in Ireland, and the people 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 5: over there are very hospitable and very welcoming. 133 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: So but yeah, I get a lot of great invitations. 134 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 5: I play in the BMW Charity Pro Am every year, 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: which is a corn fiery event in Greenville, South Carolina. 136 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm an amateur at golfer. I'm not 137 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: a pro. 138 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 5: I talk about the game, but I'm very humbled by 139 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 5: golf like most amaters. 140 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: The book is out on February twenty seventh. 141 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: You can pre order right now wherever books are sold, 142 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: and Ligory, the author is with us. 143 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: Why'd you write the book? 144 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 5: An, Well, you know, I wanted to really write a 145 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 5: book about I want to a positive book, you know, 146 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 5: in this very divisive period in our sport, in golf 147 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 5: and in other sports as well, and in our society overall. 148 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: I wanted it to be very positive. 149 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 5: So I came up with this idea with Patherlee Press, 150 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 5: and the book is distributed. 151 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 4: By Penguin and Random House. 152 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: But I wanted it to be positive, and I wanted 153 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: it to kind of transcend golf. 154 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: So I came up with this idea to interview. 155 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: Twelve legends and golf, six men, six women, and I 156 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 5: wanted to ask them what they learned from their iconic 157 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 5: golf careers that they bring to their day to day life. 158 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: And so it's really all about life wisdom. So you know, 159 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 5: Jack Nicholas talks about integrity and sportsmanship and putting family first. 160 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 5: And Hydra Carrington he was incredible. He talked about overcoming fear. 161 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 5: I mean, here's a three time major champion, and he 162 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 5: says he still has fear every time he goes on 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: the golf course and tease it up. So he talked 164 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: about how he overcomes that fear and how his mentality 165 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: shifts if he's leading a tournament to if he's behind 166 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 5: a tournament, and you know what's better for him. I mean, 167 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 5: it's really great stuff, and diehard golfers agree. I think 168 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 5: are going to learn a lot from these legends because 169 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: they share some things that you might not have heard before. 170 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: That's interesting. So the mental part of the game is 171 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: so important. The mental part of anything is so important. 172 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: But what was his preference playing with the lead or 173 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: playing from behind. 174 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: He'd rather play from behind any day, really, And if 175 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 5: he's ahead, to you know, on Sunday, he has to 176 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 5: tell himself that he's behind in order to perform at 177 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 5: his best because if he has a cushion of say 178 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: a couple of shots, even a one shot lead, he 179 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: has to convince himself that he's behind or he rarely 180 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 5: will win a tournament. So it's kind of like reverse 181 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 5: psychology for Padrake Harrington. Just fascinating stuff. Psychologically. 182 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Was there a common life lesson amongst the twelve golfers 183 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: you spoke to. Was there a commonality in terms of 184 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: life lesson? 185 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 5: Well, you know what's interesting is everybody came up with 186 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: their own unique theme and I didn't. 187 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: Have to coach, you know, any of them on it. 188 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 5: Donnie Pepper talks about preparation, how she has prepares so 189 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 5: much as a golfer and time management and how she 190 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 5: does the same kind of preparation now in her career 191 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 5: as a commentator for CBS Sports for golf. Gary Player 192 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: eighty eight years young, talks about having passion for everything 193 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: you do. I mean, who better to kind of promote 194 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 5: that message than Gary Player? Who is you know, I 195 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 5: remember interviewing him from my TV show a couple of 196 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 5: years ago, and I was doing sit. 197 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: Ups and push ups with him in the house. 198 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: The guy works out every day, right, and so everybody 199 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 5: had a different theme, but you know, I think the 200 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 5: reoccurring themes. 201 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 4: I mean. 202 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 5: Anica Sorenstam talks about having patience and you know, as 203 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 5: a golfer you have to have patients, as you know, 204 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 5: and how that transfers over to her now as a 205 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 5: mom of two kids, you have to be very patient 206 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 5: as a mother. So you know, there are a whole 207 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 5: bunch of themes that everybody can relate to. That's why 208 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 5: I think the book will basically be for everybody. 209 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: It's very inspirational, very uplifting and. 210 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 5: Lightning, and the themes are very universal themes that we 211 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: can all learn from and hopefully strive for. 212 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: You also talked to these twelve golfers about what it 213 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: took for them to become successful. 214 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: So I'm interested in some of their answers. 215 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: Well, let's see Jack Nicholas. 216 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 5: You know, he basically said that his focus was not 217 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 5: just on golf and his family. 218 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: What were the keys to his success? 219 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 5: Jack Nicholas obviously his focus and practice, practice, practice practice 220 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 5: basically is a common theme amongst a lot of these legends. 221 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: You have to put the time in, I mean years ago. 222 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: I mean, this is crazy. I was like in my 223 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 5: twenties and I interviewed the great Ted Williams, who it 224 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 5: just reminded me of that when you when I said practice, practice, practice, 225 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 5: because I asked Ted Williams the bait he was in 226 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 5: his eighties, and I said, what was the key to 227 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 5: your success? And he said, and practice, practice practice. 228 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 4: And all the people that I had. 229 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 5: In this book that I have in this book, you know, 230 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 5: Life on the Green, Lessons in Wisdom from Legends of Golf. 231 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: They all really. 232 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 5: Emphasized preparation and practice as the key to success work ethic, 233 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 5: you have to put the work in. 234 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: You can't take the shortcuts. 235 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: Did you discuss with them, man, just how lonely like 236 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: the practicing part of it. It's an individual sport as 237 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: opposed to a team sport, so you're literally practicing by yourself. 238 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: Did you talk to them about the loneliness of golf? 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 240 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean, you know, and I think that's Dottie 241 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: Pepper talked about, you know, balancing your life. Had she 242 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 5: done it all over again, she told me that she, 243 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 5: you know, wished she would have maybe spent less time 244 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: practicing and and maybe more time doing other things like 245 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 5: that normal kids do, because it is a very solitary life. 246 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 5: You're out there by yourself, You're you're putting in ours. 247 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: She has a young person, You're you're missing with tournament 248 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: schedules and practice schedules. You're missing out on a lot 249 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 5: of things that you know that young people, you know, 250 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 5: love to do a lot of social activities. And but 251 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: you know, when you make that commitment to pursue golf 252 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: and you're at that level, you do miss a normal life. 253 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 5: But most people love golf so much that I guess 254 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 5: they may may you know, they will under they will 255 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 5: deal with the sacrifices. So but yeah, it is a 256 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 5: very solitary, solitary life, and that's why, you know, a 257 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: lot of people, a lot of young people may pick 258 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: up the sport, but when they realize, you know, how 259 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 5: focused you have to be and how devoted you have 260 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 5: to be to it, they might not stick with it 261 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 5: because it does take a lot of time and folks, 262 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: and it's not like team sports where you're socializing with 263 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 5: your friends all the time. 264 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: We kind of glossed over mikey a and Billy Gill 265 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: because mikey is a Yankee fan, Billy Gill is just 266 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: a baseball fan, and interviewed Tim Williams and also attended 267 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: a golf event that was emceed by Yogi Berra. 268 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 5: What I know, that's like way before everybody's time, like 269 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 5: even my time, right, But when I was in my 270 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 5: twenties and thirties, I had this cable show that I 271 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: hosted and produced called Sports Interview, And you know, I 272 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 5: was very young, but I was going after all these 273 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 5: legends to guests on my show, and it aired on 274 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 5: MSTY network, and it was I syndicated it all over 275 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 5: the country, and I had a lot of different guests 276 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 5: on not only Baseball Greats, but you know, I had 277 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: Jim Brown on Bart Starr, I mean, Hank, Aaron, Wilt Chamberlain. 278 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 5: I mean, I got all these personalities to come on 279 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 5: the show. That's when these legends would talk without you know, 280 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 5: giving you a hard time. I mean, I'm sure if 281 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: I tried to do the show nowadays, it'd be harder 282 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 5: to get this a list of guests. 283 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: Right. They don't need us anymore, and they don't need 284 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: us exactly. 285 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 5: Social media has changed all that, right, Yeah, but yeah, 286 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 5: I mean it was just an honor to talk to 287 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: these incredible legends, and hopefully one day that will be 288 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: a book, maybe my third book, where I can talk 289 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: about the stories behind those stories because they were fascinating. 290 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: This is why I love you. 291 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: You're thinking about the next book before this book comes out. 292 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's what I'm talking about. Yes, I mean, 293 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: you wrote it for money. I mean I just wrote 294 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: a book. I wrote it for money. 295 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: I mean, now, I honestly getting back to one of 296 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: your earlier questions, I honestly wrote this book because these 297 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: golf legends, they're multifaceted. They're all just very smart and 298 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 5: very talented personalities on and off the course. They have 299 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: a lot to say, and I think they can really 300 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: teach young and old readers a lot. 301 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: Right. 302 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 5: And you know what's going on in our sport right 303 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 5: now with PJ tor versus Live, et cetera, et cetera. 304 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 5: I mean, it's been very divisive the last couple of years, 305 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 5: and this it's really positive. 306 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: So I didn't mention Live hardly at all in the book. 307 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: So there you go. 308 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: What is the I'll get to live in just a 309 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: second because I want to get your thoughts on that. 310 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: But what is the most valuable lesson you learned from 311 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: speaking to these twelve golfers? 312 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 6: Oh? 313 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: Not a really good question. 314 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 5: You know, Amy Outcut really stressed being the captain of 315 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: your own ship, right, And Amy Outcut, she she didn't 316 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 5: have She didn't come from a privileged family, she didn't 317 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: come from a family of golfers. 318 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: She you know, she like me. 319 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 5: Basically, she just learned it on her own and she 320 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: pursued it on her own. Her parents were very supportive, 321 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 5: like my parents, you know, were, but she was completely 322 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,479 Speaker 5: on her own and she became this legendary golfer. And 323 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 5: I just think that's a really great lesson for everybody 324 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 5: out there, no matter what your background is, no matter 325 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 5: you know what your economic status is or where you 326 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 5: come from. You know, just dream big, right, Just go 327 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 5: for it. Be the captain of your own ship, and 328 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 5: and set your goals and if you work hard enough, 329 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 5: you're going to accomplish them. 330 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: And I love golf. I love to watch golf, but 331 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: I only care about the majors. I love to play 332 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: golf more than I love to watch it, but I 333 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: only care about the four majors. 334 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: So I am wondering, as someone. 335 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: Who has covered the sport for a very long time 336 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: and has access to all these golfers and cares about 337 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: the sport, did the live stuff bother you at all? 338 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 339 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely, it still bothers me. I just don't respect it 340 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: enough to even watch it. I just think these guys 341 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: sold out for the cash. Now, having said that, you know, 342 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: the PGA Tour recently announced this deal with Strategic Sports 343 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 5: Group SG and SSG is going to intervest three billion 344 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: dollars in the PJ Tour and most of that money, 345 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: from what we know, is going to go to the players. 346 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: So it's all about money. It's all about business. 347 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: So you know, it's hard to criticize one over the 348 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 5: other because when it comes right down to it, it's 349 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 5: all a business and it's really about the players making cash. 350 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: I hope that they do things to grow the game. 351 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: As well, right, both entities, but you know, it's really 352 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 5: about just trying the PJ chores trying to keep their players. 353 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 4: From jumping over to live golf. 354 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 5: So you know, they want to make sure that they're 355 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 5: rewarding them for sticking around and paying them so much 356 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 5: money that they won't even consider jumping to live or 357 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 5: any other entity that might come come around. 358 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: Has it ky kept you when you're watching the majors 359 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: and tournaments if Kopka's final round, are you kind of 360 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: rooting against them? 361 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 5: Now? 362 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: Like, where are you with that? I know you're a reporter, 363 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: but where are you? Right? 364 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: I've always loved Brooks Kopka. 365 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 5: I mean I've covered all his major wins, and you know, 366 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 5: in the early days when he was winning the US 367 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 5: Open at Aaron Hills, and then you know at Shinakak, 368 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 5: I mean he he wasn't as appreciated back then. Now 369 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 5: people really appreciate him. So yeah, I root for him. 370 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 5: I like him a lot. I just think and I 371 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 5: love that. You know, I'm going to go to my 372 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 5: I hate to say this, twenty six Masters coming up 373 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 5: in April, so I'm looking forward to that. 374 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 6: But I just think he is a majors you know, machine, right, 375 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 6: He just something clicks in his head when it comes 376 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 6: to playing in these major championships. 377 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 5: He just turned it up a notch and I just 378 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 5: love watching that. So even though I'm not crazy about 379 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 5: live golf, I still love the players who went over there. 380 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 5: I mean, John Rohm is incredible, you know. I just 381 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 5: love you know, you know, Sergio. These guys are just 382 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 5: talented players. So I can't really criticize the players, although 383 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 5: I hate the fact that they kind of went over 384 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 5: there for all of cash. 385 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: Bubba Watson's become a friend of the show here. 386 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: He's been out with us three or four times over 387 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: the over the last four weeks, and he told us 388 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: he would get back one of his two green jackets 389 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins to win a Super Bowl. 390 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: He's full of shit. Right, and he's full of shit. 391 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 4: I love Bubba. 392 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 5: I better beeat Bubba many times. He has a good heart, 393 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 5: is full of shit. That got a reaction out of 394 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 5: you guys. 395 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: I love it. 396 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 6: Right. 397 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: It took that. It wasn't Ted Williams, it wasn't Will Chamberlain. 398 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: It was just that I know I have. 399 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 5: To, I have to, you know, talk like a sailor 400 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: to get to get Mike ta smile a little bit. 401 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, well, don't talk about the Jets. That's never 402 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: going to get a smile. What do you make of 403 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: the the the way the fans behaved that the waste 404 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: management opened over the weekend. 405 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 4: I just think it's over the top. 406 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the fact that they allow that, 407 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 5: I know they cut off the alcohol, which thank god 408 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 5: they did. It's just crazy and a lot of the 409 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 5: players got, you know, really upset with it. So I look, 410 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 5: I'm all for fans having fun. I've been to a 411 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 5: lot of Ryder Cups where you know, they really don't 412 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 5: cut off the bar until it's almost. 413 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: Too late as well. 414 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: But yeah, I just think there there should be an 415 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 5: extent to which the fans get crazy and they you know, 416 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 5: most tournaments the fans are very respectful and very very knowledgeable. 417 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: But that got a little crazy. It got a little 418 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: two out of hand for me. 419 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: But the players in the tour, it's one time per year, right, 420 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: and it's one hole. Really, the players in the tour 421 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: kind of contributed to that, like they're kind of encouraging 422 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: the fans because they're always talking about how much they 423 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: love that one tournament every year. 424 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: Because of how the fans act on that hole. 425 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think it's carried over to other holes 426 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: as well, because there's so much alcohol and these guys 427 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: are drinking from early early mornings, So I don't think 428 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 5: it's just limited to that one spectacular hole, which it's 429 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 5: a lot of fun to be there, but it gets 430 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 5: crazy and with all the rain and all the bad weather, 431 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: guys are just wiping out and to love all that 432 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 5: social media, these guys sliding down the mud hills and 433 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 5: it got to be crazy. 434 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, I just think it was a little over 435 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 4: the top. 436 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: And Logori is with us. We'll get you out of here. 437 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: Just a Second Life on the Green Lessons and Wisdom 438 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: from Legends of Golf. It is out on February twe 439 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: twenty seventh it's available though, right now? 440 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 2: Will Tiger win another major? 441 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: I don't think he will. 442 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, if he goes to the Masters, he 443 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 5: knows that course like the back of his hand, and 444 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 5: everybody wants to root for him. And you know, he 445 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: made the cut last year before he had to withdraw. 446 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: Due to the injury. 447 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 5: I would love to see him play well, I just 448 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 5: don't think he's I just don't think he's. 449 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: Playing enough, and therefore he might not be exactly sharp. 450 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 5: Enough to beat the competition. And all these guys are 451 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 5: who are playing a lot of golf. I just I'd 452 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 5: love to see him win another one, But I just 453 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 5: don't think he's you know, he even said he's only 454 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 5: coming back and maybe playing a month here, you know, 455 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 5: once a month here and there. I know he's going 456 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 5: to play the Genesis, his own tournament at Rivieria, his 457 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 5: own foundation's tournament. I just don't think he can really 458 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 5: play enough and practice enough. Now watch me could be 459 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 5: totally wrong and watch him win. Wouldn't that be an 460 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 5: incredible story? So I don't think so, But never count 461 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 5: Tiger Woods out for sure. 462 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: All right, your dream round of golf, who would you 463 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: choose to play? With what course are you playing on? 464 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: Wow? 465 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: I mean I've probably had a lot of those dream rounds. 466 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: All right. I'm a big Rush fan. So Alex liveson. 467 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: From Rush, right, Neil heard him at. 468 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: My charity tournament a couple of years ago in the 469 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: Hampton's Alice Cooper. I love Alice is cool. 470 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: He plays a lot of golf, Yes he does. 471 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: So let's see Alex Lison, Alice Cooper. Let me think 472 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: who else? 473 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 2: Uh, that's a pretty good start right there. 474 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get Anica Sorna standing there, because Honaka is 475 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 5: such a delight. She's a lovely person and hey, let's 476 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 5: face it, she's the best call for of all those 477 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 5: people that I named so by far. 478 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: So we need a really good player. So I'd love 479 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: to play with. 480 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 5: Honica and uh and Alex Lipson from Rush and Alice 481 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 5: Cooper and what and. 482 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: What course you're choosing? 483 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: Well, let's see. 484 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: I love the courses on the East Town Long Island 485 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 5: because I live there. Let's say we'll go to Maidstone, 486 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 5: one of my favorite courses right out there in East 487 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: Hampton alongside the Atlantic Ocean. 488 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 4: It's absolutely beautiful, very very tough to get on. 489 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 5: And we've had our tournament there a number of times, 490 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 5: so I've had a you know, I've had the opportunity 491 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: to play it. 492 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: But let's do Maidstone. That's just it's just breath. 493 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: Taking a man. Feel free to invite me anytime. 494 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: I mean any times. Do I'd like to get you 495 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: out on the golf course. That would be a lot 496 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: of fun. 497 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: We will get Billy out there with there's fake clubs 498 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: in the background there anytime we have a golf guest. 499 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: Get billion. I should have said, what about this course? 500 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: I'm right here, do. 501 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 5: That? 502 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: Do that? How about Shinnacock. We'll get you out. Get 503 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: a member at Chinookak to host us. Wouldn't that job? 504 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean maybe Augusta maybe maybe maybe I question might. 505 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 5: Be a little I have played Augusta National three times 506 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 5: the Monday after the Masters, but I was picked in 507 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: a lottery, a media lottery to be able to play it. 508 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 5: So I feel so grateful that I've been able to 509 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 5: play it three times. But I just think it's a 510 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: little more not easy, because all these private courses are 511 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 5: so tough. But I do know, since I live on 512 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 5: the Eastna and Long Island, I do have a lot 513 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 5: of friends. 514 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 4: Who are members of these very private. 515 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 5: Exclusive courses, and it's just a little easier for me 516 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 5: to get them to, you know, do a favor by 517 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: inviting myself and my friends. 518 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: We'll settle for shinnacock. 519 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: It's fine, and than I figure you'd. 520 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: Have no problem with that if you if you know 521 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: anything about. 522 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: Golf, you don't know us. Do you know how much 523 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 2: we're going to embarrass you with chinacock? I mean. 524 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, be like, what kind of clubs are those? 525 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: Do I see bags? 526 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: Those? 527 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 7: I've used them once. Here's the thing, Ann is that 528 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 7: I'm very self conscious about golfing. I've done some lessons. 529 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 7: I did two like you know, eight week courses where 530 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 7: I was just kind of learning how to golf, but 531 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 7: it was just at the range and it was not 532 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 7: confident at all in my abilities. And then I went 533 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 7: golfing one time with Stu gottson some coworkers and I 534 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 7: quickly realized everyone's bad at golf and I shouldn't have 535 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 7: been so self conscious about this because everyone was terrible 536 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 7: at it. 537 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: You well, I spent all. 538 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 7: This time in my head thinking I'm not going to 539 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 7: be able to do it. I'm gonna embarrass myself. I'm 540 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 7: going to hold everyone up, and I realized everyone's bad 541 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 7: at it. Not a single person was great at it. 542 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 4: Right, It's a very tough sport. 543 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 5: And even those who have, you know, good handicaps, low handicaps, 544 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: that can have a really bad day. So you could 545 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 5: be like a single digit hat handicap and play like. 546 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 4: A twenty four one day just because you know you 547 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: suck that day. 548 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 5: It's just golf day. There's no rhyme or reason to it. 549 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, hopefully you play more than once. 550 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 5: To get out in Shintpog, you'd have to really practice up. Billy, 551 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 5: I have to say, I'd want you to kind of 552 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 5: be decent before we make that call. 553 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 7: I won't embarrass you, don't worry. I'm fine staying behind 554 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 7: to not embarrass you. 555 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: And Billy shinokok is so difficult. She's right. 556 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: Let's let's start at a par three, Okay, the four 557 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: of us at a par three, and then we'll take 558 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: it from there. 559 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, you know. 560 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 5: I'm doing I'm doing a book signing. Speaking of par three, 561 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 5: I'm doing a book signing on Saturday, March nine at 562 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 5: the par three course in Palm Beach, awesome. That's a 563 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 5: great Have you ever played that course? 564 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right in the ocean's yeah, it's it's rated 565 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: the number one par three course in America. It's right 566 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: on the ocean up in West pom Beach. 567 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I played it several times. 568 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it is a great course. So, Billy, that 569 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 5: would be be a great place to go. Meet me 570 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 5: there on March ninth and we'll get out and play 571 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 5: the par three I like that from ten to one 572 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 5: for the book signing. 573 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: That's really I wrote down three to nine, so like, 574 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: this is a good place for you to kind of 575 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: start your golf adventure. 576 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: Okay, anything, it's difficult. 577 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 7: My calendar is empty for March ninth. 578 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: At the moment we're in We're all right. 579 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: We'll see you there. That'd be awesome. 580 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: This is great, all right, on the way out here 581 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: and again and Leegry with us. She had a book out, 582 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Life on the Green Lesson and Wisdoms from Legends of Golf. 583 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: She spoke to twelve legendary golfers. It's available February twenty seventh. 584 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: You can pre order right now. We play a game. 585 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: Okay, shop for your life with basketball guys. You know, 586 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: we talked. 587 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: We had basketball guests on I say, Bird Jordan's shot 588 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: for your life, Round for your life and logry meaning 589 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: this person has to go out and shoot a low 590 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: round otherwise I'm sorry, your life is over. Okay, so 591 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: you have here are your choices? Ready, Tiger or Jack? 592 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: Round for your life? 593 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: Wow? Okay. As much as I love Jack Nicholas, I 594 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 4: would say. 595 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: Tiger, yeah you're alive. 596 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 4: Look, Jack's in. 597 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 5: My book, and I adore Jack, Nicklace and adore Barbara, 598 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 5: you know, but I mean you can't. You can't ever 599 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: vote against Tiger. I mean, Jack obviously has more major championships, 600 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 5: but you know, Tiger just he's just us unbelievable and 601 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 5: if he weren't injured, and a lot of those things 602 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 5: that happened physically were somewhat self imposed, right, I. 603 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: Mean, he would just you would. 604 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 5: Just it's sad because you really want to see how 605 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 5: many more major championships he could have won. He still 606 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 5: could win, as we talked about earlier, but you gotta go. 607 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: With Tiger all right. 608 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Life on the Green Lessons and Wisdom from Legends of 609 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: Golf and legory the author. We appreciate the time good 610 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: luck with the book. We'll see you on March ninth. 611 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I can't wait. 612 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: Thanks so much. 613 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: That's a long drive for Billy