WEBVTT - New Overnight: A 2ND Ransom Note Sent for Nancy Guthrie 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:11.040 Hey there, folks. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:15.200 It is Wednesday, February fourth, and we are getting news 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:19.880 this morning that there is another another ransom note in 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:24.639 the case of Nancy Guthrie. Yes, another news outlet is 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:30.360 reporting it also received a ransom note, but unlike TMZ, 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.000 they decided not to make it public. And with that, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.240 Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes is 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.760 one of our first thoughts when TMZ started reporting yesterday 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.000 they got a ransom note, like, are the police okay 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.279 with that? And it sounds like they were not with 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.960 this new information we got and Robes, doesn't that make sense? 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:48.480 It does? 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.800 And look, we talked about how, yes, there is a 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:57.160 balance between getting out the latest information and information you 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:01.560 have versus protecting the integrity of an investigation. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.120 And especially look, it shouldn't matter, but when it is 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.760 a member of your own. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.880 Industry, so to speak, as broadcasters, I don't know. Just 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.959 to think that perhaps, I mean, I would think Harvey 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.479 Levin knows Savannah Guthrie. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:21.000 They have probably been in similar circles or have yes 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:21.720 cross paths. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.240 Of course they know each other, and just out of 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.920 deference to the fact that her mother is missing and 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:32.080 putting something out potentially could hinder or impede the investigation 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:33.040 into finding her. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.920 That takes things to a whole other level. It's beyond just. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.479 What the legality is, and it's more about what your 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:42.680 duty is as a human. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.319 And we try and we really went out of our way. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.040 We didn't want to be critical of Harvey or DMZ 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.760 or it's a news organization. They break plenty of news 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.240 and we know that, but this was a really tough one. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.040 And now you just what was the word you just used? 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.560 What the sheriff using the word compromise? Is it going 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.080 to compromise the investigation? So let's tell you what we 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.600 are this morning. Where we are is not really much 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.280 of an update from authorities about their investigation into where 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.440 Nancy Guthrie, the eighty four year old mother of Savannah Guthrie, 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.280 Today's show host, who's been missing since well the last 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.840 scene last Saturday night. We reported missing on Sunday, so 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.680 Roobes they gave us an update in a press conference yesterday. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.840 And the thing that jumped out he was asked twice 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.160 about have you received a ransom demand a ransom note? 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.480 He jumped over that question really quickly in a way 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.520 that didn't make sense, and he never would say no. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.200 So that stood out and started being reported on. How 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.200 long after that did we get word about. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:37.720 TMZ I believe within an hour? 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.560 Okay, within an hour. So Harvey Levin goes on and 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.800 he posts it and he also does a video saying 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:47.240 we have received an email, a note demanding millions in 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.560 bitcoin with a specific crypto curup bitcoin addressed that they 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:56.720 said was legitimate. Okay, fine, well here we go. This morning, 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.760 Robes the sheriff Department put out a statement saying, we 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.280 are aware of those reports that are out there that 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:08.200 actually made sense. Well, now Robes a local affiliate, and 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.280 Tucson is saying they got a note as well. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.400 That's right, So this was a local CBS station and 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:20.120 the sheriff did confirm this that they too received a 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:24.200 ransom note. But they received a note on Monday, and 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.480 instead of putting it out for their viewers and publicizing it, 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.600 they turned it over immediately to the Sheriff's department. And 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.680 the Sheriff's department confirmed that and said that they did 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.400 show the note to Savannah and to the Guthrie families 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.760 that they were aware, and they asked the CBS affiliate 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.880 not to broadcast the contents of the note or even 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.880 acknowledge that the note was sent to them. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.560 And they didn't which and they and I sitting here, 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.480 that is absolutely the right thing to do. This is 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.040 a captivating story right now, there's a national mystery, and 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.360 there is a life on the line of some naughty 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.600 the mother of somebody that we're all familiar with. Okay, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:06.920 this is where we are, and this is why it's 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.400 a big story. Robes, I know this is a big scoop, 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.800 right you got it in your hands. This is a 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.360 big story, man. We're gonna get a lot of attention, 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.120 a lot of clicks if we put this out. But 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.640 that local affiliate did exactly what we talked about yesterday. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.280 You've got to just say, authorities, whatever you all. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.839 Want us to do, because the life of Nancy Guthrie 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.480 Trump's anything else truly in this story. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:32.279 Now. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:37.280 Harvey Levin and TMZ did try to not get specific 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.440 about some of the details, but they certainly released other details, 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.599 including the demands. They didn't give a specific number, but 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.760 they led enough details out that I'm sure the Sheriff's 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.440 department was not happy about. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.159 Well they even so, we are you say, they try 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:53.520 not to. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:05:01.039 They gave millions of dollars bitcoin address said or else 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.240 in the note suggested that there was a timeline. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:05.240 They gave a lot of switch. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.919 Yes, and then they said that there were details about 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.960 either what she was wearing other details about what they 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.640 left behind in the crime scene that only somebody who 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.360 would have actually been involved in this crime would have known. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:19.800 That. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.880 They gave enough specifics that it could be determined whether 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.280 or not this ransom note was legit or not coming from. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:30.279 The actual suspects or suspect. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:34.120 And so yes, even giving that lent it created this 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.520 notion that this was potentially a credible ransom note. So 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.520 that makes it even more concerning that it would have 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.800 been released or broadcast or any information would have been 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.839 given about it if they really did think, hey, this 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:50.520 legitimately could be from the person or persons who have 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:52.480 Nancy Guthrie. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.000 And the sheriff wouldn't go as far as to say 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.799 if those details did match up. So all he pretty 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.120 much did was acknowledged the note but didn't want to 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.920 give details, and again he said he does not know. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.719 He was asked specifically, is this going to compromise that 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.560 I don't know, and sure, hope not, but compromised this 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.520 if if you think it slightly could have an impact 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.000 on whether or not that woman lives or dies, you 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.840 have to defer to police, you do on this, And look, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.000 I guess there are other arguments to be made. And again, 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.680 Harvey and them do some great breaking news work over there. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.760 So we try try try here, Ropes as best we 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.080 can with a lot of media stories, not to just 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.599 flat out criticize and go after in that way. It's 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.200 just I guess, Robes, we would have made a different decision, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.400 and we've been a part of newsrooms that would make 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.200 a different decision. And here we are sitting in the 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.760 middle of this when the sheriff is even and Robes, 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.480 now we can give him a little bit of a break. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.440 We were saying it before we knew about the ransom, like, hey, fine, 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.760 we want the information, but if you're telling us this 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.279 is all you can tell us to help save this 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:56.520 woman's life, then we'll accept it. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.880 Yes, I mean that's the role of the media in 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.719 this is, yes, to keep the focus on the story, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.160 to get national attention, or at least certainly attention from 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.599 the folks who might have some real information to offer, 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.000 either through surveillance cameras or something they saw or something 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.200 they inadvertently captured. So the role of the press is 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.040 huge in a story like this because, yes, family members 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.440 want the attention, they want the focus, they want the pressure, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.680 even on police, because time is not on anyone's side 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.000 when someone's missing. So there is a legitimate, important role 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.560 for the press to play. But then if you are 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.840 given something, and this has happened in other cases where 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.800 whoever is behind some crime somehow reaches out or leaks 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.120 something to the press, the point is, yeah, the right 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.040 thing to do is to give it to police and 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.640 let them tell you whether or not it's okay to 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.480 talk about it, it's okay to release it and look. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.080 According to CBS, they reported that the sheriff said, this 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:00.000 is a big, big part of this, that TMZ report 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:06.640 on the ransom note before that organization contacted authorities. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.680 That is really really upsetting. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.559 If that is true, and it's also not what Harvey said. 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.960 Harvey said something different in the video said we reached 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.640 out to some people, but we don't know if we 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.280 got to the right place. He did not say, I 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.120 mean it sounded like we placed a phone call and 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:23.600 waiting to hear back or see if it makes it 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:24.760 up the chain or something. 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.880 He yeah, he said they had a hard time getting 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.200 in touch with the right person. Is how he phrased 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.480 it when he made this video, so it was you're right. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.600 He kind of couched it, saying, hey, we're trying to 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.680 reach out to them, but we're not getting through or 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.240 we haven't gotten to the right person. 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.000 So we're having some trouble. But in the meantime, here's 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:42.480 what we have. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.840 And the sheriff flat out said in the actual interview 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.280 on camera interview, he hoped to keep this out of 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.679 the public, and that makes sense why he was so 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.800 quick with his answers, so quick trying to move on. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.720 He had full knowledge of this note when he stepped 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:57.679 in front of us yesterday. 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.720 You could actually now, of course, HEINZ twenty twenty. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.400 You caught it immediately, and yes, it was pretty obvious 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.160 his demeanor changed. He seemed slightly panicked quickly to move 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:13.480 away from that question, and he just his demeanors switched 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.360 ever so slightly where he rushed and didn't say no. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:18.600 He didn't want to lie. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.199 To the press, but it was very obvious he was 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.439 keeping something. Something about that question made him quickly want 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:25.800 to change the subject. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.839 And Rose not just did he know about it when 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.600 he came before camp. What time was that press coming 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:31.400 for no One? 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.840 It was around one one thirty Easter Yeah. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.559 Yes, one thirty Eastern time. At that point, not only 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.480 was he aware of the note, he had shared it 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.480 and discussed it with the Guthrie family at that point 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.320 they were watching that press conference, also knowing and probably 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.760 also hoping and probably also going good. He handled it 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.800 well best he could. He was asked directly he could 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:54.880 have lied to the press. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:56.160 He didn't. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:56.920 Look. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.400 I compare it not exactly the same. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.920 But Rose been in situations with with the members of 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:07.040 the military to have some covert operation that media has 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.000 full knowledge of ahead of time. But if you report 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.760 on it, you're going to put the lives of soldiers 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:16.160 at risk. We have precedent for cooperating with police when 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:17.720 lives are a lot at stake. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:23.440 We have precedent for cooperating with press. Pr folks embargoes. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.400 You know, this is something that the press does all 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:30.240 the time. We'll have information about something, even entertainment wise, 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.960 that they don't want out. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.120 And that's why they get screeners. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:38.320 Advanced screeners, but you're embargoed from talking about it beforehand 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.640 for just reasons of you know, financial success for the film, 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:43.080 et cetera. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.840 Like they don't want things getting out so on silly things. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.840 You're so right, we apply for death consequences. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.480 We hold information all the time. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.440 So this would not be a stretch, is now what 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.880 we're saying. And again they made the decision for whatever reason. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.680 Don't know if they will ever think different. We're only 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.360 saying in our experience, we would have done something differently. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:04.800 Don't know if it's going to have an impact on 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.560 this case one way or another. Robes did we mention 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:14.840 the CBS reporter alluded to these not being two separate notes, 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.319 so not a we were worried about a copycat potential situation, 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.520 But it sounds like they believe this is the same note, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:21.520 just sent to two different places. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.360 Yeah, I had that question because it was a little confusing, 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.559 But that does appear to be what the case is. 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.320 And then we were trying to kind of figure out 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.960 whoever is behind these notes, whether it is the person 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.160 who actually took Savannah's mom or not. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.719 It's interesting as if they sent it to a. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.720 News organization so that that news organization would publish it. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.160 And when the CBS affiliate, good for them, just gave 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.560 it to police and did not broadcast it. 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:48.560 It was almost as if. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.160 They were annoyed and then sent it to a place 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.120 where they thought might broadcast it. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.559 That's tough, AKATMZ. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.120 But that is where your head goes that whoever was 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.360 behind it was like, well, damn, they didn't put it out. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.960 I guess I'll have to try someone who will. And 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.120 that's what it seems like. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.520 Perhaps happens if you want then that's smart or stupid. Right, 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:07.920 If you want to get your word out, do you 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.880 send it to the CBS affiliate in Tucson, Arizona, if 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:12.160 you wanted to go worldwide? 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.480 Maybe it's smaller, Maybe you think they'll jump on it. 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.200 Are you going to send it to an ABC news 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.600 which was probably first called the FBI and then go 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:24.920 through maybe not? Or do you have no idea what 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.120 you're doing as a criminal right now? And send it 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.439 to the local station that you drive by on your 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.239 way to and from the gas station in your neighborhood 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.360 and thought that was a good idea. What the hell 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.120 is going on? I will tell you the first thing 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.760 that started making zentthropes is that there is a ransom. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.160 Yes, that, because nothing else makes sense, and we've been trying, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.439 everyone has been going through all the what could possibly 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.800 be the motive or what could possibly be the reason 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.000 someone would abduct an eighty four year old frail woman 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.440 who needs medical care. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:59.040 I mean, that's not urgent day constant. That is not 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.760 a typical kidnapping target by anyone. No one wants to 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.080 be dealing with that. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:11.640 Or there's just the motivation is puzzling other than money, and. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.559 They are telling us it's in the millions. But also 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.719 we are getting a couple of other updates about the 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:23.959 investigation through video footage that was shot at Nancy Guthrie's home. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.800 We'll explain that. Also an event playing there in the 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.719 area tonight. And we are getting an update about Savannah's 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:35.560 very busy, very important upcoming work schedule. We probably saw 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.680 this coming, not probably romes. We knew she would not 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.240 likely be going to the Olympic. Stay here, all those 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:53.800 updates coming. We continue here on this Amy and TJ 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.480 on this Wednesday morning, February the fourth, continuing on the 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:02.560 search for Nancy Guthrie of Savannah Guthrie and Ropes. The 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.880 Olympics actually is underway. The opening ceremony has not happened, 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.440 but they start doing a lot of preliminary events. The 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.200 Winter Olympics is going on. This is the most important 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:16.720 thing NBC does. We think the Olympics is every four 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.880 years or every two years you do summer, winter. It 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.760 is year round for this network. It is They pay 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.440 tons for it and they nail it on coverage. So 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.280 to have her not be a part of it is 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.120 we understand. But man, this is a big deal. It's 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:34.200 having impacts, That's what I'm saying. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:34.320 Oh. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.560 Absolutely, You and I actually we've covered the Olympics for ABC, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.000 but we both covered the Olympics or were with the 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:44.040 Olympic team at NBC, and so we actually know what 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.480 it's like at that network, the host network of the games. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.680 This is the planning that goes into these games and 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.840 covering these games the way NBC does is like nothing 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.240 I have ever experienced before. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.720 It is a machine. They know how to do it. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.040 But it takes a tremendous amount of preparation. And when 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:06.080 you're the host, when you're the anchor of the opening ceremonies. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.480 Like Savannah, You've been studying for not weeks, for months. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.920 You've had binders upon binders of who the athletes are, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.840 what the host countries are expected to do, and when 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.720 those opening ceremonies come, you are on your feet ad libbing. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.800 The prep is intense. So, yes, this all is happening 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:23.440 on Friday. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:27.200 Savannah would have likely left probably Tuesday or Wednesday today 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.400 at the latest to head to Milan to get ready, 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.240 to get acclimated, and to be ready to put on 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.320 one of the biggest shows of the year for NBC. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.800 Again, obviously not the priority right now. Clearly we understand this, 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.960 but that is the timing. That's just absolutely huge that 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.440 she's not going to be there. We'll tell you we 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.680 didn't report this previously. We saw about this, but now 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.160 CBS is reporting that one of its cameras caught and 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:56.240 we've seen these images of what they believe. Nobody else 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.760 is saying this what they believe to be blood on 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.600 the front porch of that home. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:02.240 Rod. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.000 I don't know what to make it, because the initial 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.560 reports was that somebody got up on the. 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:08.320 Porch that shouldn't have been there. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:09.880 Well, yeah, I mean it's private property. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.760 Now it's no longer a crime scene technically, because they 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.280 did say that, the sheriff did say that yesterday, specifically 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.280 that they are done processing the scene. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.320 But it is still private property. And I have to 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:21.880 tell you, look. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:22.080 I have. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.800 I don't even like looking. I keep looking up. 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.280 And CBS continues to put up I don't I'm curious 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.680 what the other networks are going to do putting up 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:31.920 that blood spatter. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.080 I don't want to see that. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.240 I actually wouldn't want my children to see it if 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.920 they were younger, waking up in the morning and seeing 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:43.040 potentially Nancy Guthrie's blood spattered on her doorstep. I just 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:47.560 think sometimes we get so desensitized. I just don't appreciate that. 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.680 And I'm thinking about Savannah. This is such look for anybody, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.400 this is difficult, but she is. This is her industry, 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.760 this is her business. She covers stories like this about 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.280 other people every single day. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.440 And I wonder how much. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:00.840 Look. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.960 She's probably not watching that much right now. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.000 But in hindsight, you look at this and you think 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.480 you do things differently as a journalist when you've suddenly 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:13.560 become the center of a media frenzy. And I just 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.040 feel for her to think about her mother's blood being 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:20.560 displayed potentially across networks for just for I hate to 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.679 say entertainment value, but certainly for the shock value. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.480 Not necessary, but they can tell necessary that you can 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.800 actually be told without showing you're right. And to the 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.159 point about being desensitized, it didn't hit me as much 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.399 until you started talking about it now, like that's a 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:35.040 damn shame. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:36.280 I get it. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.440 And I'm sure we've been on stories and had these 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.199 fight and look, just so have we look it up 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:40.840 and bam. 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:41.040 There it is. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.960 They've played it more than I've seen any other video. 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.680 And look, I'm just look, it's we're trying. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.600 Yeah, look, it's a I don't know, it's fine. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.359 I say it's fine. What I'm saying is go ahead. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.040 Oh well, I was just saying, we've been watching Rachel Good, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.320 we've been watching Alex Pretdi get killed on this video 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:02.919 for the last few weeks, and we've just been. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.800 Airing it like it's nothing. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:09.199 I mean, we have I'm thinking ten years ago in 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.920 this business, in journalism and broadcast news, I don't. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.480 Think we would have aired those things. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:19.200 And now maybe it's because of YouTube and all of 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.920 the access TikTok people just showing everything and everyone having 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.280 cell phone video and now we're just okay with showing 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.160 things that I don't think we would have shown. 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.080 Is that it is years ago? Is a decision being made? Well, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.479 it's out there anyway, Yes, let's just put it up. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.639 You know what that image of that, which we don't 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.879 know for sure, is blood And the authorities have not 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.960 confirmed that they have found blood. They say they found 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.880 DNA inside the home. They haven't said anything about outside, 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.800 so actually we don't even know what this is. 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.800 Yes on the front is yeah, oh I'm saying yes. 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.199 The sheriff specifically said outside or inside. We cannot confirm 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:55.119 that we have found blood. 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.960 So that that's just but it's out that is out 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.160 there and it is rolling constantly. Would get to your 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.600 point here, now, Rope, we're sensitive about crime scene photos, 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.159 we're sensitive about showing dead bodies. 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.760 We're sensive about blood. Why was that? Why is that? Now? 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.720 I think this is one of those stories, Robes, and 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.240 we've been in the middle of them. When there is 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.960 a void, when there is not enough official information coming 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.359 out on a big story, everybody scrambles to get anything. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.560 And if you got any little thing you then turn 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:25.560 it into a big something that maybe you would not 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.679 have reported on before. Do you think if the if 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.920 the sheriff had come out and given us that information 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.560 about a ransom, Nope, no network would have been running 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.360 out there and say, ooh we got something, let's put 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:36.639 this on. 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:37.320 Right. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.280 He lost control of that narrative because he was choosing 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:42.840 what to put out and he ran up against an 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.160