WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, December 31 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:13.320 Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday, December thirty, 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.200 first New Year's Eve, J P. Shadrick with Jeff Lockman. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.280 We have a busy show ahead of Jaguars Jaguars Colts 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:26.040 preview in week seventeen. One game to go. Can you 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.440 believe it? The league? It appears at least right now, 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.159 we'll get two D fifty six regular season games in 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:35.680 in review, will take a look at some of the 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.640 highlights from the Jags this year, and there on a lot, 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.000 but there were some. Tony Boselli joins us at four 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.959 thirty today and then head coach Doug Moron joins us 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.519 at five o'clock with the Doug Moron Show on the 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:50.840 Jaguars Radio Network. Jeff Lockman joining us now and the logs. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:55.160 Happy New Year to you a few hours early logs Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.400 Happy New Year do JP and uh and I'm sure 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.360 that you're gonna be off party in big time. I 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.840 don't know about that now. I mean we got another 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.640 day of work tomorrow and then get ready for Sunday's game, 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:10.679 so you know, so to answer your question, then probably yeah, yeah, 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.280 good for you for you amateur night tonight. It is 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.640 everybody be careful out there, no drinking and driving, use 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.720 your ubers and do everything tonight and be safe out there. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:27.440 First first, JP, I see, I see with my lovely, 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.480 beautiful ten year old daughter, I can see sparklers in 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.640 my future, I think. So celebrate the new year, people 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.640 shooting off fireworks in my neighborhood for like three straight 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.960 days already. So that's just kind of how it goes. 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.680 I can. I can tell you that a few years ago, 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.560 just a quick story here, because this this I want 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.400 this to be a learning experience for everybody, yes okay, 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.040 and to to take heed because years ago, I remember 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.520 it was fourth of July and I said, you know 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.280 what I'm gonna I'm gonna get these great fireworks shoot 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.760 him on the beach and I have a good time. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.440 And so I buy this, I mean a bunch of 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.680 I bought these big square things that have like I 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.840 don't know, like uh sixty four or you know, thirty 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:19.079 six tubes and enlightening, and it's it just starts gonna poof, poof, poof, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.840 you know. So so I get it ready and I 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.079 put it on the on the beach and I get 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.960 some sand up around it. You know, to kind of 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.240 reinforce it. And I like that thing, and it's a poof, poof, poof, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.880 and one i'm blows up out the side. And when 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.680 it blows out the side, it literally it knocks this 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:41.520 whole cannon you know, of of tubes down on the side. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.600 And now it's pointed at us at the dunes and 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:49.920 it's literally it's poof, poof, and we're like and unfortunately 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.320 nobody was killed, but yeah, it was pretty hairy there 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.560 for a while. JP and I have sworn off of 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.640 any serious fireworks ever since then. And uh, and I 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.239 know that Jason Pierre All has done the same thing, 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:02.920 and I'm not trying to mock him because of what 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.880 happened to him was an absolute tragedy. But so folks 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.560 for tonight bringing in the New Year, please use caution 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:15.760 and don't play with fireworks. Be safe, Be safe. I 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.720 must say, since we're talking about New Year's Eve, I 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.160 think my best New Year's Eve memory was a New 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.560 Year's Eve concert at the Florida Theater. This is before 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.239 Daily's Place existed, by the way, and Greg Allman played 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.680 The Greg Allman Band played New Year's Eve at the 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.280 Florida theater and not that long ago, and that was 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.160 a heck of a night. He played Midnight Writer at midnight. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:41.400 It's pretty good. Well, I can tell you, jp Um, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.520 this might be one of the most anticipated New Year's 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:49.160 Eves just because we want to say goodbye and and 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:54.640 literally say a big goodbye to the year. Has been 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:58.600 a year of a lot of stresses and new things 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:03.960 and pandemic and social unrest and politics, and it was 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.760 a year that you'd like to just go ahead and 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.840 get past, you know, I mean, it was, it was 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.360 definitely not It's one to remember, but it's not one 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:14.160 to remember for positive reasons. Let's get to football. Then, 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.960 one more game remaining. It will be the start of 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.560 the one Calendardar year when the game kicks off on 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:24.520 Sunday on January three. But the Jags have fourteen consecutive 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.760 losses one game left, and if you ask any coach 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.480 or anybody around the NFL that's involved in coaching or scouting, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.039 they know what can happen when losses pile up like this, 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.080 change can happen. But Doug Moron, the Jaguars head coach, 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.279 is not worried about what Monday could bring. He just 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.200 wants to keep trying to keep this season going. I 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:47.880 think it's I think it's hard to say. You know, 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.240 it's been tough, it's been challenging. I think to answer 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.880 to the question with the first one, um, the one 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.320 foot outside the door situation with the players, UM, they 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.760 haven't been like that. They're not gonna changed this week, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:05.560 you know. UM, I really believe that as we go forward. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.080 As far as for me as a coach, you know, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.599 when you're not doing well, you don't ever want it 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.600 to end. You know, you want to try to keep 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.480 you know, getting opportunities and try to keep winning and 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:22.800 and and I think that's what's important. So one more opportunity, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.080 Logs is what's left for this team. And it feels 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.880 like the last three four weeks month or so that 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.799 you know, they might have had juice for a half, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.160 but then the other team just kind of puts the 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.400 foot on the accelerator and pulls away from a Jaguars 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.839 team that seems to be out of gas. To be 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.720 quite honest with you, at this time of year, well, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.400 I certainly have feared that way last week against the Bears, 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.600 because in the first half, you know, the Bears were 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.080 giving you every opportunity to to take a lead, and 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:56.120 they weren't playing very well. And then when halftime rolled around, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.880 and right before half there were some turnovers that happened 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.799 and in a curious defense that allowed the Chicago Bears 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.480 to get a better position to kick a field goal. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:06.839 And then he come out in the second half and 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.480 it's just you know, it's an avalanche and and you're in. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.000 The Jaguars were caught up in at the Chicago Bears score. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.640 I think it was like four strap possessions and and 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.680 it wasn't good for the Jaguars in that situation. But yeah, 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.520 it's almost seems like they run out of gas or 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.320 have run out of gas, and it looks seasons are long, 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.200 and I and this is a young football team. And 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.600 I remember being a young football player. And I'd hate 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.760 to say this, but I was on a bad football 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.479 team all the way back in nine and I was 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.520 kind of counting down the days to where that season 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.640 would end. I mean, it was it was miserable. UM 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.520 didn't win a lot of games when I was with 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.440 the Jets and had a coaching situation that was not 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.919 very popular in my mind with Joe Walton, who was 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.960 arguably the worst football coach had football coach that I've 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.320 ever played for. And it did make it fun, and 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.760 it wasn't a good environment. It was toxic and you 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.560 just couldn't wait until the season. And but you know, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.600 on on the flip side of that, the environment with 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.520 Doug own has been very positive. And I give Doug 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.080 a lot of credit for that because there's a lot 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.640 of coaches that would be in an environment like that 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.720 and would find it very easy to just point the 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.119 fingers at the roster and say, well, we're not getting 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.760 it done because let me look at the roster. I 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.280 mean we we don't have anybody. I mean we're the 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.840 youngest team in the league where you know, twelve draft picks, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.720 we got sixteen and total rookies on the team. Doug's 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.440 never done that, you know, And and Doug has continued 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.240 to encourage his team and to say that, look, I 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.240 appreciate these guys and are working hard, and I think 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.280 that goes a long way. But you also you hit 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.520 a certain point, uh, And it's human nature where you 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.000 hit a certain point where he's just like, you're not 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.280 getting anything in return, And I think the damn kind 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.240 of broke a little bit with the Jaguars and and 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.320 especially with some of the draft pick talk over the 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.560 last couple of weeks, and now that's kind of subsided. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.400 Can can you kind of get past that? I don't know, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.200 But the Jaguars right now are just not playing very 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.520 good football jp offensively, defensively, They're just not playing good football. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.680 And I think it's gonna be tough to to beat 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.600 the foot ball team that's gonna be rip roaring and 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.640 ready to go in the Indianapolis cult, because look, they've 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.280 got the playoffs on the line. They need a little 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.520 bit of help, but the chances of them getting help 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.920 are great, and so I'm sure they're preparing expecting to 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.239 have that chance. Through the magic of the internet logs, 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.720 I've gone and looked up the nineteen eighty nine New 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.480 York Jets, and of course your team finished four. Yeah, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.640 it was right. Four and twelve was the record that year. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.520 Walton was the head coach. But you guys won back 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.120 to back games the last week of November in the 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.840 first week of December to get to what two and nine, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.600 and then reeled off three straight losses to in the 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:43.360 season where you were outscored by a combined eight to fourteen. Yeah, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.800 we got we got our our butts. I'll use that word, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.440 our bucks handed to us. And uh And one thing 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:54.600 I remember about that year, we we had we had 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.880 a pretty good draft class. It was oh yeah, it 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:06.480 was number one. Of course, we know, the first round pick. Yeah, okay, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.960 it wasn't because of me, but I think long term, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.880 if you look at it, uh, it was myself, Dennis 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.800 Bird who Dennis was a fantastic football player. We had 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:20.040 Marvin Washington, Ron Stalworth, Joe Mott and uh and we 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.000 all played a significant role and played a lot for 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.120 our football team that year. But I'll just I'll never forget. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.240 I mean, we have a head coach and he calls 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.800 all of us rookies in to his office and he 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.880 literally proceeds to tell us how it is our fault 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.760 that the season is going the way it is and 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.960 that we're not carrying our own weight. And I went 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.319 and I'm sitting there saying to myself, I'm a green 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.280 rookie and I got this guy telling me that I'm 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:55.439 the reason why we suck, and and he's sitting there 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.440 blaming it on on us. Four guys, five guys, that 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.120 were in that room. Wait a minute, I mean what 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.400 about the other you know, forty seven guys that are 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.320 in on our football team. And I couldn't believe it. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.880 And from that point on, I lost all respect for 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.720 Joe Walton. I couldn't wait until he was fired and 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:20.960 uh and uh. Fortunately we ended up having some change 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.960 and and we got a little bit better. We had 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.200 Bruce Coslet as a head coach, and then I got 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.400 to have one of the greatest experience working with a 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.840 coach I've ever had my professional career, which was Pete 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.440 Carroll was our defensive coordinator who everybody knows as the 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.360 head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. And we had some 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.800 marvelous coaches on that Bruce cos led staff, and uh. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.560 I could go through the list, but I won't, but 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.719 I will tell you JP my rookie season was it 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.720 was a tough go and uh. But the one thing 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.160 I think that that that happened was I learned a lot. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.319 And I learned a lot from the veteran guys. I 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.400 learned a lot from the coaches that I was around, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.480 and sometimes I learned things that weren't very positive, and 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.360 I kind of swore that look, I get in that 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.520 position again, I'm not gonna let this kind of happen. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.520 And and so you learn a lot. I think, you 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:05.880 know when you're a young player, and you know, you 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.480 hope that this Jaguars football team learns a lot. These 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.199 young players learn a lot so that in the future 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:16.440 is going to help them become better players. And because ultimately, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.200 this game is about winning, and if you don't win, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.679 it's not a fun job. I can tell you that. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.600 And and the reality is is that if you're not 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.680 winning in the National Football League, it becomes an absolute grind. 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.800 And it's not even a grind that you enjoys. It 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.000 becomes toxic, and it becomes no fun, and it makes 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.360 you want to find maybe a different type of employment. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.960 But the reality sets in, I can't make this kind 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:44.200 of money doing anything that's right. So you put that 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.000 along here, mullet in a ponytail and go get better, 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.760 is what you would do. Roll you roll up the 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.480 sleeves and you get back to work. And you know 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.200 that's what this football team is gonna have to do. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:54.720 And a lot of these young players are gonna have 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.959 to do, you know, going forward, Because when you sit 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.440 there and you're expecting the caval to arrive and to 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.720 provide instant help. It ain't coming. I mean it, Uh, 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.280 look around yourself and and I know a lot of 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.360 people are talking about Trevor Lawrence and are kind of 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.520 view and him as a savior for this football team. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.960 And I think he's a wonderful football player, and I 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.760 think he's gonna be a tremendous asset to the Jaguars 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.840 or whoever ends up drafting him. I mean, because it's 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.800 not sure that Trevor Lawrence is going to be the 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.240 draft pick. But there's a lot of other things that 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.920 have to go right for the organization in the future, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.520 for this organization to change course and to start becoming 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.920 an organization that is successful. We have flitting ahead, will 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.200 return and just to moment a little more about this 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.920 Jaguars Colts match up, and we'll discuss the Colts a 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.200 little bit, how different are they now than they were 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.400 way back in Week one? And then Tony Boselli schedule 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.360 to join us at four thirty. We are off running 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.280 It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Thursday on the Jaguars 0:12:52.320 --> 0:13:01.720 Digital Network. 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Uh not only as 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.840 a coordinator, probably my twenty eight years of coaching, you 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.680 know it's it's been a tough year. Um. Obviously, we 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.640 do really appreciate you know, UM obviously the players and 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.320 that kind of stuff. It just didn't turn out the 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.840 way we wanted it. Um. I think they're extremely hard 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.280 working group, and uh, I think we've got a good 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.360 coaching staff. But it just it just didn't turn out 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.600 the way we wanted it this year. And uh, it's 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.240 been frustrated. Are frustrating, but at least, you know, hopefully 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.080 we can go out on good note this week. Versus 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:11.879 Indie Todd Washed Jaguars defensive coordinator earlier this week, Welcome back, Jaguars, 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.159 Happy our j P Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman. We're about what 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.880 thirteen minutes away or so from Tony BASSELLI, so get 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.840 your alarm clocks ready. He'll be ready at four thirty 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.200 coming up to join us. Todd Wash there though, Logs 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.120 obviously a tough year on the defensive side of the ball, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.280 tough year for the entire team. But let's break it 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.120 down to defense. I mean this group that you ran 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.560 out there on opening day against the Colts, that got 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:38.200 two interceptions on tip balls against Philip Rivers and made 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.320 plays to keep that team in the game and ultimately 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:44.280 win the game. Is not the same defense that's running 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.879 out there in Week seventeen against the Colts. It's not 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.400 even closed. Shobird and Miles Jack are about the only 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.480 guys left from the starting group. Yeah, I mean it's uh. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.520 I'm looking at my board here because I've got a 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.679 list of defenders on. I R Josh Allen Thomas, who 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.640 actually played really well safety position when he was in there, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.040 d J. Hay and you're starting Nickel, Davon Hamilton who 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.440 end up being your starting knows a starting corner in C. J. Henderson, 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.000 you're starting Sam and Leon Jacobs, you're starting Nose and 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:18.320 Abrey Jones. I mean it's uh. And And here's the thing, JP, 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:22.080 when you when you have that many people on I 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:26.040 R from a defense that had a lot of young 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.040 talent and doesn't have or did not have a lot 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.359 of veteran talent around it, that's a tough ask, you know. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.679 And the Jaguars defense ranked dead last in the National 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.639 Football League, thirty second in yards allowed per game, and 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.919 as far as scoring defense goes, there the second worst 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.320 defense in the National Football League. So it's been a 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:50.040 tough go And uh and obviously they need an influx 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:51.919 of talent and need a little bit of change. And 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.119 that's uh, that's what happens when you lose, you know, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.560 when you have fourteen consecutive losses, changes coming. Make no 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.720 mistake about it. It really starts in the middle of 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.000 that defensive line. We can go back to the opt 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.320 outs at the start of the year as really kind 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.840 of setting the tone there. Al Woods was supposed to 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.480 be a big anchor in the middle. Rodney Gunter had 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:16.040 the hard issue. Woods opted out to COVID nineteen concerns, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.440 and then Gunter, as we said, hard the hard issues, 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.880 so he retired. So those two guys weren't available. Those 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.240 are two big free agent names, not huge free agent names, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.840 but for the Jaguars, big names that you had signed 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.520 hoping they would contribute. That didn't happen. And they haven't 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.760 been able really to catch up on the interior all 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.720 year long. And that's where teams have attacked this group. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.800 When you don't have that stout interior of your defensive line, 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.840 teams can just run right at you. I mean, you 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.399 go you go back and you compare this team to 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:48.399 the one you had in seventeen. It's just, I mean 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.960 it's not it's not even close. And and how do 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:55.560 you go from that defense that you had in in seventeen, 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.320 which at one point was on on a pace to 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:04.080 do historic things and almost did historic things as a 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:10.280 defense two twenty three years later, I mean, you're you're 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.160 the worst in the league. I mean, just, I mean, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.240 how how do you let that happen? Well, a lot 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:20.480 of different reasons. We start trading people, Yeah, I mean 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:25.359 it's you know, and and and I just don't know how, Uh, 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:30.399 the personnel department expected the Jaguars to be able to 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:35.320 have a chance when you go from that type of 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:40.200 roster to literally starting a new and uh and look 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:44.560 at especially and it wasn't expected. But you had a 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:48.040 year of COVID. And so the last thing that you 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.240 want to do when you don't have the ability to 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.359 practice and to have O T A s and mini 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.560 camps is to go extremely young. And because you know, 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:02.640 you don't you just it's hard it look, there's nothing. Well, look, 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.800 young players have to get better. I mean, young players 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.760 have to get repetitions to be able to be better. 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.600 And much like and the reason I brought up the 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:16.679 story about Joe Walton You can't expect the core of 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.680 your football team to be rookies and expect them to 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.640 carry your football team. It just doesn't work. And it's 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.520 never worked in the National Football League. I mean, look 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.480 at look at the history of the league. It doesn't 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:34.680 It doesn't work. And so a tough year, and you'd 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:36.840 like to have a lot of maybe a do over 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:38.639 to where you say, Okay, well we don't want to 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.560 go that young, and let's add some veteran guys where 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.840 we can, and then we'll sprinkle in the young guys. 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.840 And but it certainly didn't work out that way, and 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.560 obviously it was a it was a big mistake. So 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:54.080 this week against the Indianapolis Colts that are running the 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.160 ball very well with Jonathan Taylor and Philip Rivers is 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.720 basically playing on one foot these days, what kind of 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.600 challenges this matchup this week? Well, Jonathan Taylor is a 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:07.919 good football player now and he takes a lot of 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.200