WEBVTT - 9 Stompy Facts About Godzilla 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.240 Welcome to Part Time Genius, the production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:12.560 Guess What, Mango? 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:13.400 What's that? Will? 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:13.640 So? 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.080 I know, these days it feels like we can't start 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:21.480 any conversation without talking about the quarantine and without coronavirus unfortunately. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:23.919 But one of the things I've noticed right now in 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.840 terms of how people cope with the quarantine, I find 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.200 this interesting is that they watch a bunch of virus 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.800 based content like this is a real thing. Like tons 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.000 of people have been watching that new pandemic documentary series 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.040 on Netflix, and Contagion is one of the most watched 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.920 streaming titles right now. Have you noticed this? 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.400 Yeah, I mean, it is such a strange phenomena to me, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.760 because that is not my idea of escapism. I turn 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:49.720 to things like the Muppets movie in times like this, 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:51.960 And I know you're. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.800 Not lying about that that's actually true, you know. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.080 I guess if our stuff does make sense, if you're 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.080 looking for a way to remind yourself that it could 0:00:59.080 --> 0:00:59.520 be worse. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.400 Yeah, And I guess I get that feeling like it's 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.520 good to keep our discomfort in perspective. But if you're 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.880 like me, viral disaster movies probably hit a little too 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.440 close to home. But thankfully I have come up with 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.440 a far less upsetting option, and that's to just watch 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:18.440 a giant monster movie instead. Like, throw one of those 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.039 on and you'll be thinking, Sure, things are tough right now, 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.679 but at least there's no Godzilla, you know. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.279 So does that really give you any peace of mind? 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.000 Oh, it totally does. I mean, it's probably the last 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.160 genuine source of comfort that we have left Mango. I mean, 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.720 I think you'll agree a Godzilla attack definitely would not 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.600 improve our situation. And that's not just because of the 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.000 smashed up buildings and rolling blackouts either, Like there would 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.320 be way worse things to consider if Godzilla came to town. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.520 Well, I mean, smashed up buildings sound pretty awful, and 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:51.880 so to blackouts. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.320 But what else are you thinking about? 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:53.680 All right? 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:54.920 Well, think about it this way. At the end of 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.120 the day, Godzilla is a giant animal, right Like. He 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.280 started out at around a hundred and sixty feet tall 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.280 during his first appearance. This was back in nineteen fifty four, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.360 and over the years he's been scaled up in order 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.600 to keep pace with the increasing size of skyscrapers. So nowaday, 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.240 the modern Godzilla is three times as tall as the 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.919 original almost five hundred feet. So, not to be gross, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.080 but can you imagine how much waste an animal that 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.600 large would produce? Can you imagine this, Mago, stop and 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.080 think about it just for a second. So forget being 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.800 crushed like the cities would be flooded, and get this. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.240 I looked this up. There's actually some science behind this. So, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.079 according to a marine researcher named doctor Craig McLain, an 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.040 animal of Godzilla's height and weight would produce a truly 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.919 monstrous amount of europe nearly thirteen million gallons per day. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.360 That's like a quarter of an oil tanker raining down 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.600 for every day of Godzilla's rampage. So this is what 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.320 I now have to think about Mango and my quarantine. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.840 That is so gross, And you're right, things would be 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:00.359 way worse with Godzillar around. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.440 It is true. I'm glad you finally understand this, so 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.040 it really puts things in perspective. And that's just the 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.040 first of nine godzill effects we've got on tap today. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:33.000 So let's dive in. Hey, their podcast listeners, welcome to 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.520 Part Time Genius. I'm Will Pearson and as always I'm 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.880 joined by my good friend mangesh Hot ticketter and on 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.760 the other side of our Zoom conference wiping his mouth 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.120 and punching at the air for some reason. That's our 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.160 good friend and producer Lowell. So I'm not sure what 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.560 all the wiping and punching is about. But luckily Gave 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.960 Lucier is back with us today. He's our resident Kaiju 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.600 or strange creature fan, so hopefully he can shed some 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.440 light on this. And what is little doing over there? 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.119 Does it have anything to do with Godzilla? 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:02.920 Uh? 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.160 Yeah, so that's actually a deep cut Godzilla reference, so 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:08.200 nicely done. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:08.480 Loll. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.600 There was a point in Godzilla's career. I think he 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.960 was about eleven movies deep at the time. It's kind 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.040 of hard to keep track. And anyway, at some point, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.760 the powers that be decided that Godzilla should have his 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.640 own signature move, and I guess the idea was that, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.160 you know, he would taunt his opponents by making this 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:31.400 like insulting menacing gesture and for whatever reason, wiping his 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.359 mouth with his right hand and then jabbing at the air. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.279 That's what they came up with. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.960 It's great for video games, I feel like, but why 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.640 do that? Like, is there some cultural significance for it. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:42.279 Not that I know of. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.520 Like my guess is the actor in the suit was 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.479 just like pretty limited mobility wise, so like a mouth 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.920 wipe and a punch was the best he could must 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.080 sure either way, I mean the move. They only like 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.120 stuck with this for a couple movies and then they 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.440 phased it out, So I mean it did leave an 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.680 impression though obviously at least Lowell and there are some 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.200 fans out there they refer to the movies where Godzilla 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.000 does this as the wipe your mouth and punch the 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.159 air trilogy. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.080 You know, it's fun as we do these things, learning 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.719 things about each of us that I never knew you 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.760 and Lowell were such big Godzilla fans. That's pretty awesome. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.440 Yeah, yeah, I mean this is kind of a new 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:21.960 thing for me. Like I had seen a few of 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:23.960 the old ones, you know, when I was a kid, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.120 and I thought they were cheesy and you know, good 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.680 time or whatever, but I hadn't watched one in a 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.800 really long time. And then last year, I guess it 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.720 was actually Godzilla's the sixty fifth anniversary of Godzilla, so 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.680 he's technically a senior citizen now, and a bunch of 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.919 movies were coming back to little independent theaters around here, 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.200 so Aaron and I got a chance to watch a 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.080 few on the big screen, and we just kind of 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.799 fell in love with how silly and over the top 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.320 they were. I mean, it's weird to say, but Godzilla 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.440 is an oddly endearing character if you really watch some 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.400 of his movies, Like, I mean, he wipes his mouth, 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.200 he punches air, herec stuff, he dances like what more 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:03.680 do you want? 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:03.960 You know? 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.680 But I'm curious maybe that's just me. What about you guys? 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.280 Any fond memories of the King of the Monsters. 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.560 It's funny whenever like monster movies would come on on 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.159 like Saturday mornings. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.479 That was our que to go outside. Like so that's 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.560 what I think of them, Like mm hmmm. Will. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.680 I don't know if you remember this, but we went 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.960 to toy fair like years and years ago, and the 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.840 company that we were doing a board game with was 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.320 also doing King Kong. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.960 And this was like two thousands and so big deal. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.800 They had the King Kong board game behind this like 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.560 curtain and there were like guards there because they didn't 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.599 want to show anyone what the monster looked like. And 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.120 I thought, you know, I'm a part of this company, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.240 I can like go back and sneak in, and they 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:43.680 would not. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.160 Let me in. 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So 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.480 this is my first one, and it's about the guy 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.040 who helped bring Godzilla to life in the early movies. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:13.000 So obviously today's Godzilla is computer generated, but that wasn't 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.839 always the case, and while multiple actors have donned the 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.680 scaley suit over the years, the first to do so 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.800 was this Jepanese actor named Haruo Nakajima, and he starred 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.960 in the original nineteen fifty four movie, and then he 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.600 reprised the role for I Think Like eleven sequels. But 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.360 when Nakajima first landed the role, he didn't know what 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.599 the character would look like. All he knew was that 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.880 would be some kind of ancient sea creature that would 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.200 be awakened by this underwater test of the hydrogen bond, So, 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.920 you know, with nothing else to go on, he actually 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.040 prepared by spending ten days at the zoo. So he 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.880 watched elephants, he watched gorillas, but strangely, it was the bears. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:50.600 That really captivated him. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.200 And this is what he told a reporter at the 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.240 time quote, I used to take two lunches with me. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.439 One was mine and the rest I throw to the bears. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.440 When one of them snatched it up and shoveled it 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.520 into his mouth. I'd wash the way he did it. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.920 But no amount of research could have prepared Nakajima for 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.760 the reality of being stuffed inside a lizard suit. Like 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.880 the original costume was notoriously difficult to move, kind of 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.280 like what Gabe said, because it was made from ready 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:18.480 mixed concrete and reportedly it weighed about two hundred and twenty. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.960 Pounds at the time. Why would they use concrete instead 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.000 of something like rubber. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.600 So the later suits were rubber, but it was hard 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.800 to come by in the early postwar years in Japan, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.240 so they went concrete for the first one, and that 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.559 made the suit super super heavy, but it also made 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.320 it suffocatingly hot. In fact, Nakajima said he sweated so 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.200 much in the suit that after a day of filming, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.160 he would wring out the perspiration from his undershirt and 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.280 it would actually fill half a bucket. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.280 Can't believe he did that. He kept that up for 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.480 twelve movies, Like that is some serious dedication. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.280 Yeah, I mean, I guess he was a trooper and 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.080 he's actually kind of a pioneer when you think about it. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.200 What he did generated this whole new type of acting. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.720 All these actors were wear giant monster costumes and reek 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.600 havoc model cities. You think, like there are hundreds of 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.920 movies and TV shows all made using that process, and 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.280 Nakajima was actually at the forefront of all of that. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.800 All right, well, here's a bit of film history that 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.040 I like. You mentioned that Nakajima wasn't sure what kind 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.040 of creature Godzilla was going to be initially, but he 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.360 wasn't the only one. The producers of the film also 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.840 weren't sure what look they wanted for their ancient sea creature. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.720 And originally he was just going to be a giant 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.360 mutant octopus, which you know, would have put Nakajima out 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.520 of a job since they could have just set a 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:37.560 real octopus loose on their miniature cities. But then the 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.320 creative team decided to take an even weirder approach, and 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.480 it was the second approach that actually gave us the 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.560 character's Japanese name. And you know, remember Godzilla, that's just 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.360 something the marketers came up with for the American release. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.160 In Japan, he's actually known as Gojira, and that's because 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.720 at one point during development, the plan was for the 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.800 monster to be a cross between a gorilla and a whale. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.480 And you want to know that idea. It sounds weird, right, 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.200 but I mean, even though that idea was eventually scrapped 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.240 in favor of a more dinosaur like design. They did 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.959 keep the original name, which is actually a portmanteau of 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.720 the Japanese words for gorilla and whale. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.839 I've always wondered what kind of creature Godzilla is supposed 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.119 to be. I mean, he's obviously some kind of reptile 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.920 or maybe amphibian, I guess, and not a gorilla whale, 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.160 that's for sure, But what kind of reptile is he? 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:31.440 Like? 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.319 Is he an unknown species of dinosaur that secretly survived 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.240 underwater or is he just a regular lizard that got 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.840 you know, irradiated and grew into a giant or something else. 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.040 Like these are again in addition to the things I 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.480 was thinking about before with like Godzilla waste, I have 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:48.240 to think about this. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:49.440 Did you figure it out? 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:49.720 Well? 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.880 It turns out it kind of depends on who you ask, 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.160 which maybe isn't a huge surprise. So the crew definitely 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.840 looked at dinosaur illustrations for inspiration when designing the costume. 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.880 But according to a scientist character in the original movie, 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.920 Godzilla is kind of this transitional creature. So the quote 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:13.240 was somewhere between the marine reptiles and the evolving terrestrial animal, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:18.040 so technically not a dinosaur, but a close descendant of them. However, 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.960 the waters get a little bit muddier when you go 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.440 a little bit deeper on this. So, for instance, Godzilla's creator, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.880 a producer named Tamayuki Tanaka, has gone on record saying 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.120 that his original intention for Godzilla to be a quote, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.880 dinosaur sleeping in the Southern Hemisphere that had been awakened 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:40.440 and transformed into a giant by the atomic bomb. So, 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.680 I bet you didn't see that one coming. And that 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.480 offscreen take on the origin was actually made explicit during 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.800 the nineteen nineties run of Godzilla movies. So in one 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.840 of these characters travel back in time, they go back 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.760 to nineteen forty four, and there they encounter this dinosaur 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.480 living alone on an island. Now it is the same 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.400 dinosaur that eventually mutates into Godzilla after being hit with 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:04.160 an h bomb. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.000 But did you actually figure out what kind of dinosaur 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:07.640 it's supposed to be? 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.360 No, I have no idea. I guess I just got 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.320 tired of looking at much. More So, the dinosaur in 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.000 the movie was completely fictional, and it kind of looked 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.000 like this, more like a dumpy Tyrannosaurus I guess, but 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.440 it was referred to in the movie as a Godzilla saurus. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.320 Sure, I mean that makes sense. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.400 It's super creative. But all right, but here's the thing. 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.880 Five years later, this was in nineteen ninety seven, a 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:34.240 paleontologist named Ken Carpenter discovered a new genus of bipedal dinosaur, 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:39.480 and he lovingly dubbed it Gojirosaurus. So weirdly, Godzilla both 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.000 is and isn't a real dinosaur. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.240 Oh, that's actually pretty great, dolus. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.440 It makes so much sense that, like a paleontologist would 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.960 be a Godzilla fanatic. Right, totally, that makes a lot 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.640 of sense. Here's one I definitely didn't know before this week. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.440 Did you know that Godzilla is the longest running movie 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.720 franchise of all time? This year marks the sixty sixth 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.960 anniversary of his first appearance and the release of his 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.000 thirty six theatrical film. That puts Godzilla eight years and 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.920 eleven movies ahead of his closest competition, which is the 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.120 James Bond series. What's really interesting, though, is how the 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.440 series has managed to stay relevant for that long. If 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.600 you look at the different periods of Godzilla movies, the 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.600 tone of the series, and even the characters roll in 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.200 it are always changing to kind of better align with 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.800 the mood and what the audience of the times wanted. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.400 The first movie isn't actually some like goofy, campy monster movie. 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.800 It has action, and it does have cheesy effects, but 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.640 it's actually the somber and really bleak movie, and it 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.840 traced the disaster super seriously, and that isn't by accident. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.800 Like the director described Godzilla as the embodiment of the 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:42.600 quote invisible fear that a nuclear bomb could be dropped 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.000 at any moment, and that really resonated with audiences at 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.000 the time, and many Japanese moviegoers left the theater and 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.200 tears after seeing the movie. It wasn't until the nineteen sixties, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:56.040 when Japan's post war economy was rebounding, that Godzilla started 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.160 to loosen up a little, and for a while he 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.960 was portrayed as kind of a cranky public menace like 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:02.840 this bully you had to be chased off by the 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.000 army or by one of the more good natured monsters 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.480 like Mathra, and then he gradually became a more heroic 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.000 figure who would fight off other giant monsters on behalf 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.600 of Tokyo, even if he still did trash most of 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:14.680 the city in the process. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.879 You know, for the record, I feel like that counts 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.879 as a fact and a half there because there was 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.399 really a lot in there. But it is wild how 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.480 much mileage they've gotten out of that concept that many movies. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:25.240 It's incredible. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.800 Yeah, it kind of makes me wish they would mix 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.280 things up even more. Like Mego mentioned James Bond, Like, 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.480 let's throw him in there. God deliversus double seventhly. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.520 I mean, I feel like that fight would be over 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:42.400 very very quickly. But we've got four facts left to go, 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.320 so let's take a quick break and then we'll get 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:44.800 back to it. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.040 Welcome back to part time. Is now we're talking about Godzilla, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.480 who is the atomic fire breathing lizard with a heart 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.119 of gold. All right, Gabe, you're up again. You like 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.399 that I wrote that down. I was just ready ready 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.920 to come with it. All right, Gabe, So what's your 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:14.400 next fact? 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.480 Mango clute us in on just how long the Godzilla 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.280 series has been around. So now I want to talk 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.880 about how ahead of its time it's been. So take 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.920 the Marvel movies for instance, they kicked off this big 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.040 universe building trend in Hollywood, where you know, the goal 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.560 is to crank out as many interconnected movies as possible. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.720 And the way that plays out for superhero movies is 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.719 you do a bunch of standalone movies, a Thor movie, 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.520 an iron Man movie, et cetera, and then you bring 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.399 all those characters together for a big team up movie 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.720 like The Avengers. It's incredibly lucrative formula and one that 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.560 some studios are falling over themselves to emulate. But here's 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.879 the thing. They may think they're copying from Marvel, but 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.680 they're really cribbing from Godzilla. And that's because way back 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.800 in the earth early nineteen sixties, the Toho Studio was 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:07.480 working off the same two stage strategy. Alongside Godzilla movies, 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.280 they were also creating other standalone kaiju movies like Rodin, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.840 who was basically a giant pterodactyl that lived in a volcano, 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.639 and Mathra, who was kind of the benevolent protector of 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.400 this secret island in the Pacific. 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:25.160 So, I know, Mathra and Rodin eventually fought against Godzilla, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.040 but you're saying they did an Avenger style team up 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:28.720 movie too. 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.800 Yeah, exactly, Like after debuting in their own movies. The 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:37.240 Trio Big grudgingly joined forces in nineteen sixty four, and 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.239 of course that was to protect the Earth from the 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.120 threat of King Godora, who I guess you could call 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.000 like the Thanos of the Godzilla universe. I don't know. 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.800 He's like a flying gold, three headed dragon from outer space, 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.240 so there aren't a ton of parallels. But he's definitely 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:53.520 Godzilla's arch nemesis. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:54.119 That's the point. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.040 And the monsters, you know, they've had the team up 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.320 a few times over the years to fight him off. 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.600