WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: Signed, Sealed, Delivered

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<v Speaker 1>Kabbooms.

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<v Speaker 2>If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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<v Speaker 2>a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants

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<v Speaker 2>of the Old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He

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<v Speaker 2>treats crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as the

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<v Speaker 2>rich pill poppers in the penthouse Wow. The Clearinghouse of

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<v Speaker 2>Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour

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<v Speaker 2>with Ben Maller starts right now in.

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<v Speaker 1>The air everywhere. The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Mahler

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<v Speaker 1>and Danny g Radio will join me over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the weekend. He is producing this podcast today, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are locked in the pod studio early on this

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<v Speaker 1>Friday morning, back at it after a few rare and

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate days away back in the podcast sweatshop, and on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast we've got signed, sealed and delivered and check

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<v Speaker 1>the inbox and some other surprises along the way. But

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<v Speaker 1>we begin with this. So we are recording this live

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<v Speaker 1>on digital tape, as we like to say, later than normal.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that we are doing that is because

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Benny did not want to disturb his nieces that

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<v Speaker 1>we're sleeping right next door to the remote studio where

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<v Speaker 1>we do the overnight show from occasionally and also do

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. There is an adjacent bedroom which has a

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<v Speaker 1>very thin wall with bad insulation, and that is where

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<v Speaker 1>much of the audio magic comes from on this side

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<v Speaker 1>of the wall. We didn't want to disturb the people

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the wall. As much as

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get in here and bark early in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, would have caused a great disruption to the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty sleep and did not want to upset my twenty

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<v Speaker 1>something nieces. So nevertheless, here we are. Now the big

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<v Speaker 1>news of the week. Well, I took a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>again rare inappropriate days away from the radio show. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no holdout, There was no hashtag, there was no drama,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no hostage video that was released. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no I want to be traded to some other team

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<v Speaker 1>that did not happen. No, just a pen, a paper,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some docu sign new a multi year deal, done

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<v Speaker 1>the way things used to be done. Quietly. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I am in the talk radio business and

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<v Speaker 1>that we liked the contract holdout in pro football because

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for business. However, my business done on the

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<v Speaker 1>down low, the DL, as we used to say, So

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<v Speaker 1>we did not announce that there were extension talks going

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<v Speaker 1>on on this podcast or the talk show. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>technically I was working without a contract for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. My contract had run out, so at that

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<v Speaker 1>point I was a free agent, even though I was

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<v Speaker 1>still getting the microphone time at Fox Sports Radio. But

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<v Speaker 1>we did not leak the news to a trusted source,

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<v Speaker 1>not that there's many of those people left trusted sources.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no campaign on the gram featuring my dog

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<v Speaker 1>Moxie wearing a T shirt saying pay me. There was

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<v Speaker 1>none of that. No, no, we signed this new multi

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<v Speaker 1>year deal. We did it behind closed doors, under the

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<v Speaker 1>cover of darkness, which, if you know the Malor brand

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, that's about as on brand as it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>And so let's be honest here now, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>point where we thought this would not be happening, where

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<v Speaker 1>it all might come tumbling down like a wobbly Jenga

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<v Speaker 1>tower tipping over and hitting the floor, pieces flying everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go back on the hot tub time machine

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<v Speaker 1>to a sad moment on the history of the show

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<v Speaker 1>and in a moment where at the time I was

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<v Speaker 1>at the very top I thought of the mountain. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go back to November mid November twenty twenty four, I

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<v Speaker 1>had returned from a very brief trip to Cansa City,

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<v Speaker 1>had returned from Kansas City after a VIP weekend. They

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<v Speaker 1>rolled out the red carpet, had a penthouse, hotel room,

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<v Speaker 1>the airfare, everything taken care of courtesy of the landing

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<v Speaker 1>in Liberty, Missouri, the home of the Ben Mallard Chicken

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<v Speaker 1>fingers and my friend Bob Fesco, the big morning star

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<v Speaker 1>at the fan in Cansa City. I went in there

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys showed up from all over the Upper Midwest.

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<v Speaker 1>We had people come down from Iowa, Nebraska, obviously Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>where we were doing the broadcast Kansas which is right

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<v Speaker 1>across the way there, and it was awesome. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a great turnout. People were very kind. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>got back and I walked into an audio bloodbath. The

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<v Speaker 1>company had whacked the great Eddie Garcia steamboat. Willie, my

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<v Speaker 1>longtime Update anchor, partner in crime after more than two

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<v Speaker 1>decades at Fox Sports Radio. That's it now. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us, the experience of you a listener

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<v Speaker 1>me doing the show that was a major, major gut punch,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of sudden move that makes you realize yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>how fragile these gigs really are, the fragility of the

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<v Speaker 1>business that I have chosen my life's profession. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no golden watch that was handed out. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no farewell tour. I don't like those anyway, just

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<v Speaker 1>a thanks for everything. It's not you, it's us. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a vanishing act of Eddie that reminded everyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the business that you're only secure until you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, we have built a freakishly loyal cult audience,

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<v Speaker 1>which hopefully you're part of. You're listening to the Fifth

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<v Speaker 1>Hour podcast and I think you're in that. It's my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're listening to the radio show and the Witching Hours.

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<v Speaker 1>However you consume this stuff, it doesn't matter. Right, We

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<v Speaker 1>started to wonder if our number was next. My deal

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<v Speaker 1>was up in the summer, just a couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>in July of twenty twenty five. So you do the

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<v Speaker 1>math on that. You say, well, Eddie and Eddie got

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<v Speaker 1>let go in November and then my deal is up,

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<v Speaker 1>and okay, you put two and two together. You're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't good. That's not good. And if Eddie could go,

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly could go. I'm not giving a lifetime contract

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. So one thing about getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the industry at a pretty young age you learn at

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<v Speaker 1>an early point in life that not only life is temporary,

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<v Speaker 1>but the business you have chosen is temporary. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not something that you normally do for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not in one place, which makes what has happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me in my situation even more outrageous and more

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and all that stuff. Radio, especially talk radio, does

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<v Speaker 1>not offer long term leases. It does not you You're

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<v Speaker 1>always month to month, at best your month to month.

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<v Speaker 1>And while these jobs are hard to get, they're even

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<v Speaker 1>harder to keep. And if you manage to stick around,

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<v Speaker 1>as I like to say, you age in dog years,

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<v Speaker 1>a decade on the air is really like seventy seventy

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<v Speaker 1>years on the air. Like the format shifts, the executives change.

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<v Speaker 1>I have had in my time at Fox Sports Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've had three or four different bosses. If

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<v Speaker 1>I did the math on that, yeah, I've had four bosses,

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<v Speaker 1>four people that could have whacked me at any time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've had four executives that I've had to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what ends up usually happening is it's not

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<v Speaker 1>even the executives that you deal with. It's one day

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<v Speaker 1>some middle manager from San Antonio tells you that your

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<v Speaker 1>P one numbers are strong, but your P two numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are soft. The quarter hours just aren't really working out

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<v Speaker 1>for us anymore, and suddenly you find yourself only doing

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast, which listen, eventually, I will only do a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast at some point. That is the way it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go. But the point is you're only doing a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're doing ads for a lawnmower blade replacement company.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's fine. You try to avoid that as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you can. And we survived for now all yet

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<v Speaker 1>again and listen were locked in financially for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years to the company. And we're still calling the shots,

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<v Speaker 1>still sitting in the catbird seat, the watch tower of

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<v Speaker 1>the overnight, still commandeering the overnight airwaves, like the one

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<v Speaker 1>man navy, writing the monologues, the bullet points of the monologues,

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<v Speaker 1>putting the things together for the show as a one

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<v Speaker 1>man op. But why do we enjoy those crazy nighttime hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Because for all the pressure, capital pee pressure, the late

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<v Speaker 1>night slot comes with something that no amount of drive

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<v Speaker 1>time Molah can buy you freedom. Freedom with a capital F.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talk about this from time to time, But

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<v Speaker 1>no one's breathing down my neck at three in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning to get me to do something that they think

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be done. Meaning there's no brand consultants that

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<v Speaker 1>are yelling at you about your tone of that monologue

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<v Speaker 1>or the pacing of that particular segment, or you left

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<v Speaker 1>that guy Jed who fled on too long. She was

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<v Speaker 1>on the air for too long. There's no zoom calls

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<v Speaker 1>filled with big buzzwords with things like synergy in platform adjacency.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what that means. Right, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that. So those are all positive things. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>all positive things. You don't have to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>rigamarar that a lot of those other shows have, where

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<v Speaker 1>there's people in management that often feel the need to

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<v Speaker 1>do something to justify their existence, which often means busy

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<v Speaker 1>body work. We don't have that. We don't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>They've given me the freedom of the overnight to go

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<v Speaker 1>in there and just get weird. Right, you get to

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<v Speaker 1>be weird, you get to be real, get to talk

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<v Speaker 1>with yes, you the listener, the audience. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk at anyone. I don't have to talk at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to sit like I'm on some mountaintop

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm better than you. And one thing you learn

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<v Speaker 1>also is that the people listening at the hour where

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<v Speaker 1>you should be sleep and nothing good happens after midnight,

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<v Speaker 1>the phrase one or two in the morning, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But the people that are listening, the insomniacs, the truckers,

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<v Speaker 1>the security guards, the cops, the robbers, the fast food workers,

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<v Speaker 1>the night owls, a few lost souls mixed in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not flipping around, You're not hey, you're not dabbling,

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<v Speaker 1>You're locked in. You listen. Many of you listen for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire four hours of the show, or you'll listen

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour. Most people in daytime radio, you're lucky

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<v Speaker 1>if you get them for seven or eight minutes. Very

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<v Speaker 1>rare that they listen that long. And the difference also

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<v Speaker 1>is you listen overnight and you call in, you become

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show. You become a character on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I go out and do these meet and greets the

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<v Speaker 1>different towns. I've been all over the United States, from

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<v Speaker 1>from Maine all the way to Seattle and all over

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. We did one last year in Charleston, in

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<v Speaker 1>southern California, all over the place. And always somebody will say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's so and so like, And it's a caller to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. They're like, Hey, what's that person like? And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's one of the reasons you don't leave something

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<v Speaker 1>like this. And sure could I have jumped to a

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<v Speaker 1>morning show somewhere or afternoon drive and made a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more money. Absolutely, I'm not getting rich doing this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not and doing a zany show, a zoo show with

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<v Speaker 1>goofy animal sound effects and giving away wads of cash,

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<v Speaker 1>or a car wash in Temecula, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>used to do at the mighty six ninety in San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego back in the day. We could have taken this

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<v Speaker 1>audience and tried to rebuild something somewhere else. Very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to recreate that. We've had opportunities over the years. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been offered radio jobs in many cities, well three to

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<v Speaker 1>be exact, since I've been at Fox Sports Radio. But

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<v Speaker 1>fun equals funds, right because radio at night, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have preached the bully pulpit, from the bullie pulpit, this

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<v Speaker 1>and I continue to say this radio at night just

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<v Speaker 1>means more. It connects deeper, cuts deeper, It sticks in

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<v Speaker 1>your soul longer. It builds community in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>daylight radio cannot touch. It just can't. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more people awake during the day, but there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of options, and people are busy and they're listening with

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<v Speaker 1>half an year. At night, there's less going on and

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<v Speaker 1>you're more locked in. And that is why the Malard

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<v Speaker 1>Militia as we've called it, thanks to Jahattis John and

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan who came up with that name, the Malard Militia

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just a catchy name. It's a movement, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>the movement is it's a small movement. It's a movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a bunch of diehards across every time zone in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. We have an international reach, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>got people at truck stops and people listening during the

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<v Speaker 1>day while I'm sleeping in office buildings who treat me

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<v Speaker 1>like a friend in the room, not just some random

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<v Speaker 1>voice in the box. What's in the box right? Not that?

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<v Speaker 1>And what kind of bond? You don't throw that away

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<v Speaker 1>for some tea time. I'm not even a golfer a

0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.200
<v Speaker 1>golf once a year if I'm lucky. You don't throw

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<v Speaker 1>that away for some tea time at nine or ten

0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, and then a What's trend segment? No,

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<v Speaker 1>So we stayed. We stayed with Premiere Networks, which is

0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.840
<v Speaker 1>still the top of the food chain in syndicated radio.

0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.600
<v Speaker 1>There is no one that does it better than the

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<v Speaker 1>Premiere Networks. And I recall them my younger days. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's the gold standard. You want to work

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<v Speaker 1>in radio and you want to do syndicated radio, you

0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.479
<v Speaker 1>work for a Premiere. They were called Premiere Radio Networks

0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.400
<v Speaker 1>when I started. Now they're just called the Premiere Networks.

0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.720
<v Speaker 1>And then with Fox Sports Radio having started shortly after

0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the network launched, and remember being on and only markets,

0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the test markets. We were doing beta testing at Fox

0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio in the early days, and I was the

0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.560
<v Speaker 1>first weekend overnight host on Fox Sports Radio. They were

0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:51.320
<v Speaker 1>playing recorded programming overnight and they gave me the Friday

0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and Saturday overnight shift. I was, I believe twenty five

0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.720
<v Speaker 1>years old or something like that. I got the overnight

0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.920
<v Speaker 1>show at Fox Sports Radio on the weekends, and we

0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:09.560
<v Speaker 1>were doing beta testing in Binghamton, New York, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and there were a couple of other small markets, but

0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.520
<v Speaker 1>we were only on in like four or five cities.

0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.000
<v Speaker 1>To start Fox Sports Radio, we had to work out

0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the kinks. We had to give the customer a product.

0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.800
<v Speaker 1>At that time, ESPN Radio was the gold standard. Everyone

0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.920
<v Speaker 1>had listened to that they were at the very top

0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of the food chain. And now you look all these

0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:34.359
<v Speaker 1>years later, and Fox Sports Radio is the gold standard.

0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It's been that way for years in national syndicated sports

0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:41.439
<v Speaker 1>talk radio. And so they've given me this stage with

0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a microphone, a moon, and a man on a mission.

0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:51.879
<v Speaker 1>And so the audio penthouse stays occupied and the show

0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:56.080
<v Speaker 1>we're not coasting along. We're evolving. We're getting bigger and

0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:01.119
<v Speaker 1>louder and stranger and hopefully better. Of course you'll be

0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the judge of that. So we may soon be entering

0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.640
<v Speaker 1>our year twenty five. Now I'm a little behind Fox

0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:13.679
<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Fox Sports Radio's birthday is August twenty eighth,

0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:18.320
<v Speaker 1>is when the network launched in two thousand. So I

0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.280
<v Speaker 1>have to wait. I haven't done the math on this.

0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done the math on this. I'm sure alf

0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.679
<v Speaker 1>or ferg Dog or someone will do the math. So

0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm six months in twenty six days. Actually seven months

0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.160
<v Speaker 1>in twenty six days behind that because I started about

0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a month after the network started, so I'm about eight

0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:38.280
<v Speaker 1>months behind. So I guess the summer. If my math

0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.600
<v Speaker 1>is correct, the summer of twenty twenty six will be

0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:47.720
<v Speaker 1>my twenty fifth anniversary at the company. But in talk

0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.360
<v Speaker 1>radio terms, that's something like, you know, twenty five years

0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.720
<v Speaker 1>is like eighty two and a half. I did the

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:58.359
<v Speaker 1>math on that. The legs still work, the voice still

0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:03.439
<v Speaker 1>cuts decently, still cuts decently. Occasionally I get my vocal

0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.080
<v Speaker 1>cord shredded from talking so much being a one man

0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.639
<v Speaker 1>act on the overnight. By the end of the show,

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.560
<v Speaker 1>some of you guys still laugh, some of you still

0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.440
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the show. And more importantly, that red on air

0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:19.919
<v Speaker 1>light that flashes outside the studio it still means something

0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to me. I was raised on radio. My parents worked

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.720
<v Speaker 1>crazy hours. My mom ran her own business, and she'd

0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.880
<v Speaker 1>always have the radio on. A little fat Benny would

0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.679
<v Speaker 1>tag with my mom after school and she'd make her

0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.200
<v Speaker 1>deliveries to post offices or whatever, and I was with her,

0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and she always had the radio on. It always meant

0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot to her. She always would turn it up

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.800
<v Speaker 1>for certain segments on the radio. My dad was the

0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:49.119
<v Speaker 1>same way, grew up listening to Art Bell through Coast

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to Coast late at night. But my mom, both of

0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.520
<v Speaker 1>them loved, loved radio, and she would turn on in

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the afternoon at five point thirty. There was a guy

0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.160
<v Speaker 1>named Jim He who did a sports show in LA

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>and she knew I liked sports, and so she turned

0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that on and he had all these goofy sound effects

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and so I listened to that and I loved it.

0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.720
<v Speaker 1>And there's just something magical about doing it live. Performing

0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 1>live the grid of the overnight, you don't get that

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 1>same vibe. Not that I don't love doing the podcast,

0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.400
<v Speaker 1>but you don't get that same vibe. And you don't

0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 1>get many second acts in this business. You don't. And

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>so we were able to secure a third or fourth.

0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what we're on now. So remember

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to turn out the lot. But the party's not over.

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 1>The party's not over. And you leave that radio on

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and you download the podcast, you listen to that, you

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.960
<v Speaker 1>give us a good review, and you help keep this

0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.120
<v Speaker 1>show going as long as we can go. And we'll

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.679
<v Speaker 1>just keep doing it and doing it and doing it

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.879
<v Speaker 1>and doing it and doing it. And I have no

0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.359
<v Speaker 1>plans on stopping as long as the health is good

0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and life is great and I loved it. We've survived

0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a freaking pandemic together. We can survive just about anything. Now,

0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.399
<v Speaker 1>turning the page on that, you gotta check the inbox.

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>What's in the box? You gotta check the inbox? So

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 1>he announced your pronouns. He emailed me a few weeks back.

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>His name Will Will the thrill from oh Glaholma, so

0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:37.119
<v Speaker 1>he said HEREM. I almost didn't open the email. I

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 1>get inundated. This is a person named blind Scott who

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 1>is one of my crazy friends. I've known Blind Scott

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 1>since a man the early days. He was one of

0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the original people that fell in love with the Overnight

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Show and his many service dogs. Now he can't have

0:21:55.640 --> 0:22:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a service dog anyway. Scott and I go go way back,

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and he sends me literally hundreds of emails a week,

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and as a result, I have to like get rid

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of him, and it's hard to go through the email.

0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a whole flugezy thing. So I get this message

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 1>from Will from Oklahoma, and as I said, I almost

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't open it, because you know, spam is everywhere other

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.840
<v Speaker 1>than blind Scott, and I am not in the market

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 1>for some kind of malware by opening some email I

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 1>don't recognize, or trying to have someone sell me a

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 1>discounted timeshare or some off brand pharmaceutical products that will

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>promise to regrow my hair. I'm good on that. I

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:48.120
<v Speaker 1>have a nice hat collection. But something in the subject

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>line caught my eye and I'm not sure what it was.

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he said longtime listener, first time visitor,

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.360
<v Speaker 1>although he could have said that. It turns out that

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Will wasn't just another overnight zombie. No, this was a

0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>card carrying member of the Malor militia, a real one,

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:15.680
<v Speaker 1>authenticated and essentially from before he was even a teenager.

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.959
<v Speaker 1>So he said he had been listening to the show

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>since he was the tender age of twelve years old.

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 1>So at age twelve he found the show. Let that

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>marinate in your brain for a second. For me, I

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.679
<v Speaker 1>was like, that kind of reminds me of me. I

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.680
<v Speaker 1>fell in love with radio around that age. I think

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I started listening. I was a little younger than Will,

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 1>but right around that age, and I loved it. I loved.

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I was an introvert and the radio talked to me.

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>It spoke to me, and I didn't have to deal

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 1>with anyone. I didn't have to talk back to it.

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>It just talked to me. And if I wanted it

0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 1>to shut up, I just turned it off. It was wonderful.

0:23:56.359 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So I've always said, and I said this earlier thing

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:04.679
<v Speaker 1>dog years and all that. So using that analogy that

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>we used earlier in this fifth Hour podcast, that would

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>make this kid about sixty in radio terms. All right,

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>So he grew up in southern California, my stomping grounds,

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and would sneak a transistor radio or probably a phone

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>with the iHeart app. You know, I don't know, I'm

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:30.360
<v Speaker 1>old under the covers and listen to this overnight circus

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that we've created. His dear old mom, he said, would

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 1>scold him for staying up too late to listen to

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that gas bag. I don't know. His name might start

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>with a B. Maybe that would be me, and hey, listen,

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I've been called worse. Now. Will told me sadly that

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>his mom had recently passed away from cancer, and now,

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>at twenty one years old, all grown up and married,

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>he was coming back to town. Wanted to visit the

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>studio just to kind of hang out, and I gave

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>you say thanks and all that, just to see the

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>place where this odd little cult show is brewed, a

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>nice warm brew every night. Like the bizarre stew of

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>many hot sports takes and Mallard monologues, goofy sound effects,

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>all the lunacy, all the nonsense, all the wacky callers,

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>all of that. Now you should know that we've had

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>a few bumps in the road with visitor requests. I

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 1>love opening our doors. I think that's the coolest thing.

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I still get a kick out of walking into the

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>radio studio now again, I guess I'm getting old boomer,

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>not a boomer. I just feel the energy. I feel

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>the vibe of the microphones and all the legends that

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>have worked in that building. We're in the old Rush Limbaugh,

0:25:55.440 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Steve Harvey compound. Just amazing people in broadcasting, some of

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the greatest of all time, who entertained millions and millions

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>of people, and they sat in those same studios, slaving

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>away in the mic over the microphone. Casey Casem his

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>old studio is down the hall. It's our podcast studio.

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Like this is just amazing, you know, the ghost of

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>that building, if they could talk. So I want to

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>let you guys in, if your friends, if I know

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you from the show, and you're called in and see

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things Will told me as a

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>kid caller, and I had forgotten. But he went back

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 1>to the iHeart archive and sent me the clip that

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Will had been a kid caller, that he'd fallen asleep

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>as a little kid on the air, and I'd forgotten that,

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and Will sent me the audio and I kind of

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>refreshed my memories. There you go. So I was like,

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I kind of let this guy in, come on and so,

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>but we did have some issues now with the visitor request.

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to name anyone. However, Mike Leprechaun, you

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>know who you are, Mike. Mike gave us all a

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>mild case of PTSD. I mentioned earlier in this podcast

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that my contract was coming up in the summer. And

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 1>about a month before the contract comes up, I get

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>all these messages from management complaining that one of my

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 1>rogue listeners had shown up into the building and violated

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 1>the security protocol and you know, going nuts on me.

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>So I say, oh boy, this is not good. So

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>again a little bit of PTSD. We don't need to

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>go in any more detail on that, but let's just

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>say you get burned once by Eleprecaun, you think twice. Still,

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>something about Will's story felt genuine and felt authentic, and

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>so we told him. I said, listen, I don't want

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a douche. You can stop by briefly. It's

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a long drive for you. If you're that motivated,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you can do it. He said his uncle. His uncle

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was the guy who had indoctrinated him into the cult

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>of the Overnight Sports Radio World when he was twelve

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>years old. So we said, hey, listen, bring the uncle.

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Just don't bring a posse, right, don't bring an overnight bag,

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>don't bring a pillow. Don't show up at noon for

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the midnight visit, or you're going to get pepper sprayed.

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>So Will was raised properly, not by wolves. His mom

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>did a good job. So he followed our instructions. He

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>showed up with Uncle Josh, polite, normal middle aged human being,

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>not wearing a cape or asking to speak to the

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>ghost of Genie and Medford or see if he could

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>channel Jimmy Ray from Tampa Bay. No he didn't. So

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>we gave them a very brief walk behind the scenes tour.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And I say very brief because it was in the

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>middle of a stop set and I had to get

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>back behind the microphone. Nothing glamorous unless you consider the

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>stack of ancient show rundowns off to the side or

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>some stale vending machine leftovers on the Smurf kitchen glamorous.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>So he met the crew. He and Josh met the crew,

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>saw the magical on air light and the various buttons

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and gadgets in the studio. We snapped a few photographs,

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>We chatted for a couple of minutes, and then that's it,

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>he laughed. That's it. That was the visit. It wasn't long,

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it was short. It was sweet. It did stick with me, though,

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>because here's this kid, and he's not a kid anymore.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:50.479
<v Speaker 1>He's all growing up. Who stayed up late with a

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<v Speaker 1>cheap in my head, a cheap radio and just go

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<v Speaker 1>with my version of the story and listen to me

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<v Speaker 1>ramble into the void of the darkness night. And now

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>he's all grown, he's working the dreaded day shift in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still listening, still connected and granted he's a podcast guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me he listens to the podcast, which is understandable. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>still loyal and that's awesome. And people think no one

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<v Speaker 1>listens to the overnight radio. Why did he do the

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<v Speaker 1>Overnight show? They think it's the like a graveyard shift,

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<v Speaker 1>a wasteland of insomniacs and weirdos yelling at the clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>And while we get a lot of that, we get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the angry old guy like Jerome and

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<v Speaker 1>Charleston who just calls up to complain about everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>so some of that is true. Every once in a while, though,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those weirdos turns out to be just a

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<v Speaker 1>cute kid who's growing up and wants someone to listen to,

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<v Speaker 1>something to listen to, and finds the show and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a companion as a background soundtrack in this case to

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<v Speaker 1>his life. Now, did it make me feel a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and a little like the godfather of

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<v Speaker 1>this strange nocturnal family, the mal Or Militia that we

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<v Speaker 1>have built up over the years. So to Will, thank you, pal,

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<v Speaker 1>it was great to meet you. Will wants me to

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<v Speaker 1>do a Malor meat greet in Oklahoma. I've been to

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City before. Now Will lives in a small town

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<v Speaker 1>in Oklahoma and not in Oklahoma City. So if I

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<v Speaker 1>do end up there, will I promise we'll do a

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<v Speaker 1>malor meat greet. But I did want to think you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just for listening, but for reminding me yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>why this thing we do in the middle of the night. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine point seven percent of the population of sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>other than Alf and ferg Dog and mister nice guy

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<v Speaker 1>and a few others still matters right now again, Will

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<v Speaker 1>you got to get some sleep during the nighttime hours

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<v Speaker 1>because you work the dreaded day shift. You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>family to support. You're all married, So welcome to adulthood,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you, thank you, thank you. Will and on

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<v Speaker 1>that we will put the baby to bed. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>some new podcast all weekend and get you caught up

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<v Speaker 1>on the schedule for next week as well. So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for listening and supporting in the podcast. You can

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<v Speaker 1>email me if you get this in by tonight, you

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<v Speaker 1>can email me a question for the mail bag and

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<v Speaker 1>Real Fifth Hour Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and put name and city, name and city in the

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<v Speaker 1>and your comments and questions we'll be read in the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday mail bag, but we'll have new pods all weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a wonderful, wonderful rest your Friday. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>allowing me to put this up a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an afternoon podcast on a Friday, but that's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all good, So we'll catch you out tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 1>aloha all that wonderful stuff. And as Danny says later,

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<v Speaker 1>skater now asta pasta, gotta murder, I gotta go