WEBVTT - Part One: The Slavery Loving Fascist who Built Modern Japan

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Sophie, I don't know if I agree with you

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<v Speaker 1>that a Kamala Harris themed erotic vampire anime would be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess we all have different opinions on things. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't notice the audience had had come in here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Robert Evanance. This is Behind Bastards. It's a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about the worst people in all of history. Sophie and

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher and I were just having a conversation about manga's

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<v Speaker 1>that we think would be successful. Um so, Christopher, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, what do you think erotic Kamala Harris vampire anime?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I can see it. Look okay, the you

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<v Speaker 1>know the advantage you get you get out of out

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<v Speaker 1>of it? About of anime? Right, everyone's eyes enormously large.

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<v Speaker 1>You can lose. You cannot loose with this. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are too big. Science says that we find the

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<v Speaker 1>big ice cute, cannot go wrong, cannot go wrong. Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>other things you can't go wrong with our classic Behind

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<v Speaker 1>the Bastard's reverse episode where where one of my Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>are we allowed to call them indentured servants? No, we're

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<v Speaker 1>one of my indentured podcast guests in this case. Christopher. Also, um, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie one of our team members, one of the members

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<v Speaker 1>of our squad, Sophie, there is no iron team, but

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<v Speaker 1>several of the letters that are also in Indentured Servant

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<v Speaker 1>are in the worst team. So, Robert, that was worse

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<v Speaker 1>than that was worse than the fake laugh you did

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<v Speaker 1>at the start of this episode. Christopher Wong, who is

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<v Speaker 1>on our team, a valued member of the Zone Media squad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd prefer uh hunt the cool Zone Media Hunt. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always felt we were more of a regime. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>you know your your web cram being broken and me

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<v Speaker 1>not being able to look you in the eyes when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm angry really upset to me. I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of why I haven't fixed it. Christopher, are

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna learn about today well on this podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>before we formally start. Robert, how do you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>Operation paper Clip? Um? Oh, you know, so when World

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<v Speaker 1>War two ended, right, same kind of feeling that I

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<v Speaker 1>got when like the last Lord of the Rings movie finished,

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<v Speaker 1>or like when Firefly got canceled, and I'm like, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted more. I wanted more from these kookie Nazis

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<v Speaker 1>and their crimes and then the US government and the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian government in two separate operations, were like, don't worry, Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna give those guys future jobs. You can keep

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<v Speaker 1>following the careers of Albert Speer, Verner von Brown, a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of other Nazis, including that guy the CIA hired,

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<v Speaker 1>and see what they do after the war. It's like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it's like. Uh, it's like that TV

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<v Speaker 1>show Joey after Friends got canceled. That's what Operation paper

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<v Speaker 1>Clip is for the Nazis. And I I personally, as

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of both Joey and World War two history,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's great. What's Joey's last name, Triviana, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. More or less, it's been a long time

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<v Speaker 1>since I watched the episode of Friends. Look, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen years. Come on, oh well, Robert, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to love part two of this. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start out at this episode. I'm gonna make an incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>bold claim and we'll see how to see if you

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<v Speaker 1>agree with it after after after the part the second

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<v Speaker 1>part of this episode, UM, I maintain that the rehabilitation

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<v Speaker 1>of Nobisuka Kishi, who is the subody give today's episode

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<v Speaker 1>is the single worst example of the US rehabilitating a

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<v Speaker 1>war criminal after the end of the days, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst one. I'm excited because this is a new

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<v Speaker 1>war criminal for me, which is a huge day in

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Land. Yeah, yeah, alright. So Kishi was born on

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<v Speaker 1>November eighte in a village Inmgushi Prefecture of Japan. Now

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<v Speaker 1>she she is born in an incredibly important time in

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese history, right, just literally right at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the second phase of Japanese imperialism. So to get us

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<v Speaker 1>to the second phase, um so, after the restoration the

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<v Speaker 1>Emperor and the Meiji restoration of Japan rapidly starts importing

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<v Speaker 1>European technology, European organizational principles, your Pean ideology, and European

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<v Speaker 1>racism in order to do a rapid quote unquote modernization

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<v Speaker 1>campaign in order to compete with the European nations. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Japan was not exactly like an egalitarian paradise before they

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<v Speaker 1>started doing this. And you know the consequence of this

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<v Speaker 1>is that you know, they take the colonialism like a

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<v Speaker 1>fish to water. And this starts what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>call the three phases of Japanese imperialism. You have imperialism one,

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<v Speaker 1>imperialism to imperialism harder, and imperialism with three tokyo drift.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very frustrated that that you didn't do an imperialism

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<v Speaker 1>too electric boogaloo. But but you know, we'll we'll discuss

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<v Speaker 1>that at your next performance evaluation. I will I I

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<v Speaker 1>will endeavor to get better references when I name phases

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<v Speaker 1>of imperialism to after bad movie idols. Yeah. So, imperialism

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<v Speaker 1>one basically starts right as the major restoration happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>and it lasts roughly from about eighteen sixty eight to

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the Sino Japanese War in eighteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 1>And and this is the phase that everyone ignores because

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, this phase imperialism is very very local

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<v Speaker 1>or it's happening inside Japan itself, but it's extremely important

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<v Speaker 1>to understand, like everything's gonna happen next we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it for a little bit. And now. So the

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of the defining characteristics of this first phase

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<v Speaker 1>are the horrifically violent assimilation of the Anui people in Hokkaido,

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<v Speaker 1>the annexation of the Rioku Islands. Might not know what

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<v Speaker 1>those are the biggest one is Okinawa. You probably know

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<v Speaker 1>what that is. Yeah. My my half of my family

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<v Speaker 1>has been half of their lives there. Yeah. Yeah, very

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<v Speaker 1>nice place, Very very bad things happened to people there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a monument at the north of the island called

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<v Speaker 1>Peace Prayer Park because when the when the US took

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<v Speaker 1>the island, the Japanese occupiers told them like, hey, you're

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<v Speaker 1>all going to get murdered and raped by US troops.

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<v Speaker 1>You should just kill yourselves now. And so a shipload

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<v Speaker 1>of Okahoma has just flung themselves off the cliffs. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And now there's a very nice monument there. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bad things have gone down in the Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Japanese Empire is just sending enormous numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of people to their deaths. Is running FEMA this episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is remarkable when you're telling a story that

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<v Speaker 1>takes place, when you're telling a story about colonialism in Asia. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and the US is not the specific bad guy at

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Yeah, like like, yeah, the Empire of Japan

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<v Speaker 1>got like yeah, like this is the thing that like

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<v Speaker 1>the Americans don't become the bad guys in this story

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<v Speaker 1>until two years into the occupation, which is like like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to I can't. I don't know if like

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<v Speaker 1>another time ever the U. S has like military occupy

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<v Speaker 1>another country and it took two years for them to

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<v Speaker 1>become like the bad guys. It's yeah, we got faster,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, guys. Yeah, yeah, we've We've improved our game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Taylorism brings you. Yep. Yeah, actually this was

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<v Speaker 1>the Gakishi. We a lot of just got cut. But Kishi,

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of Taylorism, absolutely loves it. And yeah him

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<v Speaker 1>and are cops yep, yep. It's it's great stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's one more thing that happens, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is I think the least well known of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that happens in Japan in this period, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>there's this just mass destruction and looting of thousands and

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of these local non Shinto shrines like in Japan itself,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had this this this giant like culture Confian

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<v Speaker 1>just like annihilates like all of this sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>local non like Shinto religions, and you know, all of

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<v Speaker 1>this violence is about sort of it's about annihilating any

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<v Speaker 1>other culture in Japan and forcing everyone to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>assemblight to the new Japanese nation state. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is this is what nine century nationalism is.

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<v Speaker 1>This this attempt to impose like a single national language

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<v Speaker 1>and culture on a bunch of people who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>until this point, like the only thing most a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these people have in common is that like armed

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<v Speaker 1>men show up every year and take stuff, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them to give it the same king. Like. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they have different cultures, have languages, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and in order to get rid of days that used

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<v Speaker 1>to be all government was was armed men taking your

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and giving it to the king. And one day,

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<v Speaker 1>when libertarianism wins, we'll get back to that. I wonder, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how long it would take for for the CEO.

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<v Speaker 1>So it just literally started pointing themselves monarchs. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's that um the Twitter account run in

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<v Speaker 1>part by the Kent State gun Girl, the Liberty Hangout

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<v Speaker 1>accounts like a libertarian conservative account like four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and in about a year and a half was like

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<v Speaker 1>an ironically advocating the establishment of a monarchy contract. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I made that joke. It's like literally a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening incredible. Yeah, okay, continue, Yeah, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the violence of you know, we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the violence in Okkaido, the violence in the islands, and

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<v Speaker 1>the violence in Japan itself. Like this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>the crucible in which Japanese nationalism is formed. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and like like like the rest of the twenty century nationalisms,

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<v Speaker 1>the only place so that goes is imperialism, to imperialism harder.

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<v Speaker 1>And this this phase begins in eight when Japan launches

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<v Speaker 1>a war against China basically over control the Korean Peninsula

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<v Speaker 1>and they just like they just smashed the Chinese army. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We we talked about this war a little bit from

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese side and our Jong Zung Chong episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from from the Japanese perspective, this war makes

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<v Speaker 1>Japan like the premier like power in East Asia. Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're they're they're the big Asian power and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and Kishi is born the year after Japan

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<v Speaker 1>wins the Sound Japanese War, and when he's eight years old,

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<v Speaker 1>Japan wins his next major war, which is the Rusto

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese War. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, Japan, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Japan beats Russia so badly war it's amazing. Yeah, that's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians are so like start the war with such

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<v Speaker 1>a like we're gonna win us an easy victory against

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<v Speaker 1>the savages and then lose their entire north fleet just

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<v Speaker 1>just just their asses hand to them almost like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest ass whoopings of the entire century military.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's kind of funny because it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so like you know, they sailed this, they sailed the

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<v Speaker 1>second fleet from like all the way around Europe, around Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I destroyed to but the first fleet

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<v Speaker 1>like the reason next, so there there is exactly one

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the entire Russian Navy who has any idea

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. His name is Makarov. He's he's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who had to the icebreaker, like like he actually

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<v Speaker 1>does what he's doing. And also from him, yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a he's a cool guy. And then like like at

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<v Speaker 1>like at max range, just like a random Japanese cannon

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<v Speaker 1>shot just like killed him in the entirety of like

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<v Speaker 1>Russian like high command, and that was it for the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian Davy because there's no one else in the whole

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<v Speaker 1>navy that like wasn't just like rand aristocratic appointment. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a god yeah, it's it's great because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot to stand out as a Russian

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<v Speaker 1>naval disaster, because the Russian Navy has pretty comprehensively been

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<v Speaker 1>a ship show. We could talk about the Kurs or

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that their only aircraft carrier, the Admiral koltz

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<v Speaker 1>nets Off, keeps loking. It's dry dock on fire. We

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about a lot of stories of the Russian navy,

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<v Speaker 1>but please we should probably continue. We'll do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>Russian navy. Yeah yeah, you know, and like like in Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>like they lose this war so badly it causes a

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<v Speaker 1>revolution and you know, but in Japan, this is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is when Japan like becomes one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great powers. It's no, it's no longer this like

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<v Speaker 1>minor regional power. Like it's one of the great powers,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, everybody's going to take them seriously after

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<v Speaker 1>this the biggest land empire in Europe. Yeah yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, it's like, you know, they beat a European power. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like that that's a huge deal in this period, and

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of people who will support the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese Empire like out of like anti imperialism. Basically, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they're a non white empire. We have to yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is yeah, you know, trying to explain that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, somebody in Nanjing. Yep, yep. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry. It's an imperialist empire that's shot your family

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<v Speaker 1>to debt anyway. Yeah, yeah, it's it's bad stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like they're the product of this is like

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<v Speaker 1>she's is growing up in the period like when Japan

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<v Speaker 1>becomes like a super power and you know, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're like a minor great power, Like they're not like

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<v Speaker 1>Germany or like like I don't know, or like the

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<v Speaker 1>UK or France at this point, but you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>still a great power. And you know, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is going to be sort of important

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<v Speaker 1>because this is the sort of this is the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like era of nationalism and era sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>triumphalism that that she's coming up in. And Kesh is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be one of, if not the main, architect

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<v Speaker 1>of imperialism with three Tokyo drift when that phase starts

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven and then that that's the fascist phase. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're we're yeah, we're gonna, We're gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>our way up to that throughout the course of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she she's great grandfather was actually like yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is another source of the sort of like nationalism

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<v Speaker 1>and patriots. And he comes up in is he was

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<v Speaker 1>like famous enough for doing like anti shogun stuff if

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<v Speaker 1>for the restoration that like when he dies, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of articles on newspaper about it. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know she doesn't that you know too. And after she dies,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kishi family business goes under and this starts off

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<v Speaker 1>this just really weird set of family drama and she

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<v Speaker 1>Kish's family is wild. Um. So she's older brother is

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<v Speaker 1>Sato Ihiro, and you know he becomes a vice amirald

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<v Speaker 1>the Navy. His younger brother, Sato Issaku, is the third

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<v Speaker 1>longest serving prime minister in Japanese history. Kishi spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 1>is also going to become prime minister. And he's like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of distantly related to a third Japanese prime minister,

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<v Speaker 1>you Shota Shiguru, which is extremely funny and reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into in the second episode. Like like these

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<v Speaker 1>people are like they're like the Japanese bushes, except like

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<v Speaker 1>the Patos are just like they're just random people, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're not like rich, like they're just Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's the opportunity ship. Yeah, yeah, like that. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>that they they just like for one generation. Actually, you

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<v Speaker 1>know after the after, they're gonna keep they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>staying politics like that one generation just like just ran

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese politics for like half a century. It doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like that's ever a good idea. Yeah, it's it's not great.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps running paras politics isn't such a great idea, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's a cop out anyway. Now because the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the family business imploded, like she she's uncle. Mansasuke goes

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<v Speaker 1>to such like studying medicine in Tokyo and becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>professor obstetrics. Yeah, and you know, so Matsuke doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any sons, and so he adopts she she's younger brother Issaku,

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<v Speaker 1>to to marry his daughter. And again I want to

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<v Speaker 1>point out, okay, Mantasuke is she's uncle, right, that means

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<v Speaker 1>that Eaku is marrying his first cousin, and she also

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<v Speaker 1>marries his cousin Like this is like not like a

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<v Speaker 1>normal thing in this period, Like people don't marry their

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<v Speaker 1>first cousins like that often. And like both of the

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<v Speaker 1>people in this family directly people knew a while ago,

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<v Speaker 1>people knew a long time before this that like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not really a great idea that happening. Don't aren't looking

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<v Speaker 1>so good like they do it anyways, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great it's a great sign of where this

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<v Speaker 1>is going. So so Kishi stays with Matasuke when he's

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<v Speaker 1>like very little, and his uncle realizes that Kishi is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely smart, and you know, like he hires a home

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<v Speaker 1>tutor to help Kishi passed is like incredibly selective interest

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<v Speaker 1>exams for this middle school, and then he hires want

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<v Speaker 1>to teach him English, and you know, it's this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing where he's a child prodigy and his uncle is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to raise him, and you know, like like

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<v Speaker 1>Martsasuki like like deeply genuinely love's Kishi. One of his

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<v Speaker 1>biographers described it, quote treating his uncle like a son.

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<v Speaker 1>Massasuke showered as much afection on Novasuke as did his

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<v Speaker 1>own parents. Now, unfortunately for Kishi and unfortunately for like

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<v Speaker 1>all of East Asia, uh In, in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>second year of middle school, Montessuke dies of pneumonia and

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<v Speaker 1>she sent off to live with what there was other aunts,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, like this is this is like pretty,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's still like a young kid at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is like this is really bad for him emotionally,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that the second family that he gets

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<v Speaker 1>sent to live with is like way less nice to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, he still get support his academic career,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has his like he he he has his

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<v Speaker 1>weird young age trauma, which like a couple of one

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<v Speaker 1>of his biographers like points this out and and it

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<v Speaker 1>is like, yeah, he has all the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>need for a great leader. He has he's a he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good family, he has a he's a family that

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do education, and he has trauma. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, do you understand where this is going. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very weird. Yeah, yeah, And Kishi, you know it's like

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<v Speaker 1>she she's a genius, like he's he has top of

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<v Speaker 1>he's at the top of his class in middle school,

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<v Speaker 1>he graduates top of his class, again in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>and in nineteen he's accepted into the incredibly prestigius Tokyo

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<v Speaker 1>Impure University. Now what she sees in college, she starts

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<v Speaker 1>to formally intellectually encounter the new Japanese far right, and

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes particularly enamored with like the er Japanese fascist

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<v Speaker 1>Iki Kita, who he is a weird guy that he

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of sort of eclectic ideas, but like

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<v Speaker 1>his big things that he wants the emperor to see

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<v Speaker 1>his power in a coup, like dissolve the parliament to

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<v Speaker 1>create a fascist state m hm. And you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>she she she's kind of soft on the like coup part,

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<v Speaker 1>and Keita has some ideas about like well, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna cup the government, right, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>a fascist state and the fascist state's gonna like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of resource redistribution, and she's like, he's he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>soft in that part, but like, you know, the fascist

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<v Speaker 1>state part, he's he's incredibly in favor of. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at this point in time, there's no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that it could possibly be a bad thing. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, this is yeah, this is this is,

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<v Speaker 1>this is, this is pretty busily promising new political theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, now yeah, so so when when when he

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<v Speaker 1>graduates from university in n there's a couple of weird

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<v Speaker 1>things about it. So like okay, so not he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the top of his class, right, but like not only

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<v Speaker 1>is the top of his class, he he has the

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<v Speaker 1>highest test scores that anyone has ever seen, like in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of university. He has the best test scores.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he also like he takes a sivil the

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<v Speaker 1>Civil service exam, but like he takes it as like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're supposed to spend like four or three

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<v Speaker 1>or four years in college. He just takes us a

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<v Speaker 1>second year and passes. And so you know, he has

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<v Speaker 1>this whole arc where he's basically like you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>but for most of his career he's seen this just

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<v Speaker 1>it just like prodigy and it's like sort of true.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into you know, it's not being true when

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<v Speaker 1>the war machine starts to come apart. But yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in in this period, he he makes what looks at

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<v Speaker 1>the time like a really weird decision. Um, you know

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<v Speaker 1>he she's yeah, he's a projecty, like he could easily

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<v Speaker 1>have entered like the home office us like that're the

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<v Speaker 1>Home ministry, and you know, he would have had this

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<v Speaker 1>very easy career, like very safely could have become a

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<v Speaker 1>vice moandistic or like a governor. And instead he joins

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<v Speaker 1>the Ministry of Commerce, which at this point is like

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<v Speaker 1>a fairly minor like government government industry. And and and he

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<v Speaker 1>does this because specifically, like he really really wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be in charge of the Japan's industrialization process. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know this is this is gonna be She's like big

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<v Speaker 1>thing over his career is he's he's he's planning be aercrat.

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<v Speaker 1>He he's you know he yeah, like what while while

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<v Speaker 1>while when he gets to the Ministry Commerce, he starts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he does he does all this research and

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<v Speaker 1>send him all over the world to like look at

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<v Speaker 1>every people's planning models, and like he gets obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>like nineteen late nineteen twenties German planning stuff, which you

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<v Speaker 1>know looks kind of weird given what's about to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in the German economy. But yeah, and he starts advocating

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<v Speaker 1>this thing called industrial rationalization, which is you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is like economic state planning. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his the way this is sort of different from like

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian model, is that like he wants to still

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<v Speaker 1>have corporations, but he wants the core rations is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of be run by government beacrasts. I mean, they're still

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<v Speaker 1>like capitalists, but like he wants to be run by

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<v Speaker 1>government beeracrasts, and he wants them to be sort of

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<v Speaker 1>run for the state interests. And you know, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the other thing about this part, Like anytime someone

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<v Speaker 1>says state interest and they're like a beeracrat nine thirties Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>what they mean is like building a war machine. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, you get these like weird, these weird

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<v Speaker 1>passages where it's like you read it, this person sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a socialist, and then you read like two more

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<v Speaker 1>paragraphs and it's like, oh, right, they want a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stay controls they can build like the largest army

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<v Speaker 1>the world has ever seen in over state is a

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<v Speaker 1>gun to these Yeah, it's it's not entirely different with

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of the ways the Nazis would talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this state, like the state in the state is

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<v Speaker 1>a race too, Like it's it's yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he she the way she thinks about

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<v Speaker 1>this is that you know, he's gonna chart like a

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<v Speaker 1>third path, which we liberal happens is capitalism and communism.

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<v Speaker 1>And this position it becomes held by a group called

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<v Speaker 1>they're servi innoculously called the reform Bureaucrats. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's important to understand about the reformed Bureaucrats that lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people like don't get when they study this is

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<v Speaker 1>that the reformed aureaucrats, like all of them, including Kishi,

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<v Speaker 1>are fascists. But the thing that's different about them, and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that's you know, makes it sort of obscurest fascism,

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<v Speaker 1>is that, unlike most fascists, the way they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do fascism is it just works in the bureaucracy. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know that basically like they have the that

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<v Speaker 1>the strategy that they're gonna work for breacracy can work

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<v Speaker 1>for the inside out. And you know, she she's aided

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<v Speaker 1>in this by the fact that his boss, um yesh Shinji,

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<v Speaker 1>is the head of the Ministry of Commerce and Industry

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<v Speaker 1>and he basically just like gives Kishi free rein to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever he wants. And so Kishi goes, Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna start doing war planning, and you know,

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.440
<v Speaker 1>he wants to take over, like stay control of major

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<v Speaker 1>industries so they can do kind of planning for form

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<v Speaker 1>military stuff. And this gains him a lot of connection

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<v Speaker 1>to support in the fascist sections of the army. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Keish allies with what's what's called the Control Faction of

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<v Speaker 1>the Army, which is founded by someone you I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>name at least recognize Hideki Tojoe, which yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>failed to shoot himself in the heart yep, great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. You know what's sort of weird about the

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<v Speaker 1>Control Faction is that like they're founded kind of ironically

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<v Speaker 1>like to stop another faction of the army like from

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<v Speaker 1>doing fascism. And you know this this confuses a lot

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 1>of people because it is confusing. Yeah yeah, yeah. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do you know what else is confusing Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Um The fact that no one has developed a system

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<v Speaker 1>that's been capable of dethroning global capital. That is confusing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is confusing a lot of people say

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<v Speaker 1>they've got the answer, but he's done it. It's true,

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's true. Yeah, I was, I was what I

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<v Speaker 1>was just gonna say, confusing that people don't buy our

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.800
<v Speaker 1>products and services. It is that we show on here

0:22:55.400 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>because maybe the answer to dethroning capitalism is to participate

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<v Speaker 1>paid in it. Don't think about that too much, think

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 1>about these ads. Alright, we're back, all right, Chris, let's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's continue forward. Yeah. So so, yeah, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the absolute mess that is Japanese fascism.

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked about the Control of faction. The Control

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>faction is formed to stop the the Imperial Way faction

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 1>of the army from doing terrorism. And these guys, these

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.920
<v Speaker 1>guys hate each other, like the the Imperial Way spends

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>like a good part of the early thirties just like

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 1>murdering this ship out of control faction officers and both

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of them are just like purging each other from the army.

0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>And this, this whole thing is part of what a britishown.

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 1>This is called the period of government by assassination. And

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.919
<v Speaker 1>this period starts when a group of fascists, this is

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>one of the there's a million fascist groups in Japan,

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>this is one of the smaller ones, like assassinated the

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>prime minister in one and after that everyone just goes, oh,

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 1>hold up, we can just kill ministers and so you know,

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 1>they killed this just enormous number of government officials, They

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>killed a bunch of politicians, they killed businessmen, like they

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>killed two more finance ministers, and like they do like

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>they do. So there are so many coup attempts that

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like you could literally just do an entire podcast series

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that is just the coup attempts they attempt in these

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>like five years, because it's like every every different faction

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and every like possible coalition of these factions has their

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>own coup attempts. And you know, finally, this this period

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of ends when the Imperial Way and their allies

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to do like one last giant coup in six

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>called February twenty incidents, and they get kind of close,

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like they take a bunch of government ministries, like they

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>almost killed the prime minister, they almost killed the Defense minister.

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think they do kill the Defense minister,

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 1>but they lose. And after that, Japan, the Japanese government

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>is just like, Okay, we're just gonna kill you all,

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.959
<v Speaker 1>and so they do this like mass execution of of

0:24:58.000 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>like every fascist leader they can get their hands on,

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>in being uh Ichikdo, who is not involved in this

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>in any way. But just like on principle, they were like, okay,

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the one thing all the fascist to be arounds that

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>they like you, so we're just gonna assassinate you, and

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:10.959
<v Speaker 1>so well they don't say something that they put them

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>on trial and a show trial and convictim and killed

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>them all, and a lot of people, including you know,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>people who are like pretty reliable fascism scholars like Robert Paxton,

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll look at this trial and go, oh, well, okay,

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>this this is this is like this is as if

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, like Moosi leads martial, Weba failed

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and like this is the end of fashions in Japan.

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think they're wrong. And the reason I think

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>they're wrong is that if they're looking for the fascist

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>revolution in Japan itself, and the fascist revolution doesn't happen

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>in Japan, it happens in Manchuria. Now we we we

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>have talked about Manchuria before on this show UM D

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>D Chong episodes. Um it's you know, it's it's it's

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like the northeast China equivalent New England that like

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, Portos, Russia borders Korea. It's really close to

0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Japan also boris Mongolia. Um know that there's there's a

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of industry there, and you know it's it's it's

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the base of Jong's boss, who's also named Jong Junctu Ling,

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and you know he he's the warlord that Japan had

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>been backing, dream dreamed in the whole world periods of

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>a civil war era. But both Jongs lose the war

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>against Chinese nationalists. And you know, like when when when

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.679
<v Speaker 1>we last left Mancharia, like a bunch of piste off

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Japanese officers had just like bomb Junctu Ling's train, and

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, after that, Manchuria sort of falls into the

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>hand of the nationalists. It becomes technically part of the

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Chinese Republic. And this is where okay, things have always

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>been weird to man sure, this is where they get

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 1>even weirder. UM anarchist revolution breaks out in Shiman Prefecture

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that calls itself the Korean People Association to Mancharia. Now

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Shimman's like right on the border with between Mancharia and Korea.

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>And this anarchist revolution is driven in large part by

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>this enormous Korema million like two million people like Koreans

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 1>have fled to the Japanese occupation in uh you know,

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the Jackie is Japanese occupation of Korea and into Mancharia,

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and you know, and it's it's it's

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>a weird project because you have a bunch of you

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of anarchists, and you also have a

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>bunch of Korean nationals working with each other because the

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>thing both of them agree on is that they hate

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the Japanese. And you know that the anarchists sort of

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>take the lead. They formed a bunch of these councils.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>They start organizing the economy, aroun mutual aid, and you know,

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>they start to set up the education system. They do

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, and then everyone immediately start trying to

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>kill them, and so as as is like anarchist tradition,

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>the Soviets start immediately assassinating people. Um if these guys

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have another disadvantage, which is that the Japanese army also

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>starts assassinating them, and eventually this this whole sort of

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>anarchist like prefecture, sort of mini territory collapses nine thirty one.

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>When you know that the incident that I would consider

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the actual sort of fascist coup in Japan starts, which

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>is it is the Muckton incident that triggers this full

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>scale Japanese invasion of all of Mancharia. Now, the Muckton

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>incidents extremely weird. Basically, what happened is that a group

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>of officers in the Quantung Army, which is the japan

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>has this army in Manchuria that's there to like protect

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>their railroads basically because Japan like tendically owns all the land,

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the railroads a wrong, they have some other concessions, and

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>so they have this army that's just like in Manchuria

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that they can legally have, and the offer some of

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the officers at that army basically look at the situation,

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>they look at what's happening the rest of trying to

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>look at the anarchist revolution, and they're like, okay, we

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>need to take over Manchuria like entirely. But you know,

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>they have no they don't have like a natural pretext.

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>So they stage a false flag, false flag attack on

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>their own railroad and use the attack as like a

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>free tense that started a full scale invasion in Manchuria.

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's it's bad, it's and the other other

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>phone part about this story that We're talking more about

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Yakuza later, but like those guys, so they go to

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>like the Japanese government. In Japanese governments like, you cannot

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>do this, and so they go to some right wing

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>industrialists trying to get funding, and they won't do it.

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And the people who will fund them are the Yakuza,

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and so that they have like like thirty million yen

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>just just like from the Yakuza that the Yakas are

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>like here, yeah, used to take over from Manchuria. And

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>so they do. And you know, and the civilian government

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>in Japan doesn't want this, but they basically have no

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>choice because the invasion is like incredibly popular among the

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Japanese like public, and you know, one of the reasons

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>it's popular is that it you know, there's very I mean,

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>there is some fighting, but Shinkai check in the Nationalists

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>are you know, they're deep in their civil war with

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Mao and the communists in China, and they're just like, okay, Japan,

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you can just have this, and so they let they

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>let them have this without without a fight. And the

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>consequence is that the Quantuan army, which is you know,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>it's chocked full of imperial way followers. The whole there's

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like the whole army is just a bunch of different

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>people in different fascist groups. These guys wind up ending

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>up in charge of setting up a new state in

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Materia called by Chuqua. And the product of this is

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you get and it's just an extremely weird state with

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>like sixteen different versions of fascism, and you know, this

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be like an independent state, and it

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>like kind of is a little bit like they install Pouyee,

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>who's like the last emperor of China as like the

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Emperor of Machuqua, like this new state, and you know,

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>they have all this propaganda about like the state's gonna

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>have are gonna restore the kingly way, and it's going

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to be like a direct relationship between the emperor and

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the will of the people, and there's gonna be these

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>like autonomous agrarian villages ruled by landlords and everyone's gonna

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like live in harmony. And did that? Did that happen?

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>So so the strongest group in in in in this

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>like sort of nude fascist utopia. It is called the

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Concorde Association, and they're this like they're this like fascist

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>pan Asian group that you know, they have this whole

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>line about like okay, we're doing ethnic harmony and like

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>all the races are gonna work together, We're gonna work

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>together to like expel the like the wide imperialists. And

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the reason they take this line is that like the

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>actual Chinese people there don't want Thementaria, they don't want

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the Manchucal government there because they're like, okay, all of

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>the officers in this thing and all of the government

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>officials or Japanese like this is this is just a

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Japanese occupation, but you know, you have this sort of

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>this this fascist like mass organization, and their goal is

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>to build popular support for this because you know, the

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Japanese can't really just purely hold this a military force

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>at this point. So they have this public government and

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, for about two years they really they rule

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>like relatively unopposed. But in age thirty three, the Communist

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Party sort of at the at the behest of the

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>U S s R. The USR is like, okay, you

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>guys need to do this, and so the CCP goes okay,

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>and what they do is that they start like the

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.719
<v Speaker 1>series of insurrections launched at like driving the Japanese out,

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and the Japanese responded by slaughter the entire villages very

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>kingly way, very very very harmony between the races that

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, there's individual villages where they walk in

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>they killed they killed two thousand, five hundred people in

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>like a single massacre and you know, betweteen forty they

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>kill sixty people trying to suppress the communists, and they

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>move at five point five million people most mostly real

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>people into these like the ten thousands of these hamlets,

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>which I think if if if anyone studied the Vietnam

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>War and you were prestigia handlets from that, like this

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>is that like these handlets have they have three they

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.239
<v Speaker 1>have three meter high walls, they have barred wire, they

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>have forced labor, and so you know, this is this

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>is this is the state of like this, this is

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the state of like the Kingly Way in in in

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of fascist menshuko. Yeah, and it's you know, I

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>mean one of the things that I think is and

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that you were getting get earlier when people talk about

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.479
<v Speaker 1>kind of the rise of the the o G fascists, um,

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>it tends to be very eurocentric, but there's very much

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>an open exchange of ideas that the Japanese are a

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>part of that's that's going, but that includes concentration camps

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's not just and to that point, the Japanese

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>are probably they're they're not really I would doubt their

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>inspiration is the German concentration camps or anything that a

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>fascist well that a recognize like what we can traditionally

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>consider a fascist power zone. They were probably looking back

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>at the Spanish and the British, my guess, yeah, yeah,

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and the United States possibly is the Spanish. The concentration

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>camp concept kind of originated from Spanish general who deployed

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>it in Cuba, but he got the idea from embedding

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>with the U. S. Military after the Civil War. Anyway, Yeah, well,

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and you can you can treat it

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of more directly too, because like all of that stuff,

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, it boom boomerangs back to the Philippines and

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the American occupation there, and like you know, then that

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things, this is one of the

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>reasons that that stuff, like all the stuff he uses

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>in the Philippines, that that is like in large part,

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>like that's a big part of the reason why this

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of Japanese very fission to fascism is is popular

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to some extent in East Asia because you know, okay,

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>but before they like really openly start to massacre everyone.

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just popular because I mean, japan Seed

0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>is like the only power, you know, the only not

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>my power in the East that can that can resist

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>just the app I mean just the just incredible genocides

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>that just like absolute horror that that that that is

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>happening just across the rest of East Asia. Awesome, It's

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>it's great. And yes, so Keishi starts becoming interested in

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Menshuk around nineteen thirty four, and partly he's interested in

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it because of the fascism, but his big interest in

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Machuqua is the natural resources in the sort of industrial

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 1>base it has, and through through his sort of position

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>in the in the government bureaucracy, she's able to start

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>working on on the first Manchuqua five year Plan. Now,

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>now it sort of weirdly, you know, the fascist officers

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>who are who are in the Japanese army there, uh,

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they want this whole thing to be like an independent

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>like state that's like free from the like corruption of

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>liberalism and capitalism and stuff. From whatever that that like,

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it makes makes Japan like in Pierre and

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>like the loose relation to the empire. And she she

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>looks at this and goes like, okay, wait, but we

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>we want we want we want this state to help

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>run our war machine. And you know, and he this

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>five year plan is is this giant like war mobilization

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>thing to create this sort of they called the National

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Defense State. But basically like it's turning the entire society

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and the entire state, the entire economy into a war economy.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And his plan to do this is She's going to

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 1>bring in Nissan and have Nissan run like every war

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>industry in Manchuqua. Well, Nissan almost makes an acceptable truck,

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:16.760
<v Speaker 1>so you know almost, you know, it verges on being

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>as good as a ram Uh. Look, Nissan cars are

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>are are all right, but don't don't use them for

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>agricultural work. Get it to coma. Now, if you're telling

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>me they wanted to put Toyota in charge of everything,

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>we say, that seems like a flawless plan. I'll bet

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Toyota has never been involved in any kinds of crimes

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>against humanity. You know, there's there's that, there's there's like

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a fun there's a fun thing here where So so

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the there's these things in Japan called does I about

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Sue and it's about and you know, there's these like

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>giant mega lambres like that the people who own like

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Toyota are one of the conglomerates. Nissan is another one

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of them. And like the army and most of the

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 1>fashions like hate these guys because they see these like

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 1>giant capitalist things. Is like this is like a Western thing.

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.919
<v Speaker 1>It's like unpeered. They let these corrupt bureaucrats and again

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in the way of us and the emperor, and so

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>like she she has to like do this incredibly elaborate

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>dance to convince all of the the fascist officers in

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>in in Manchukuo that like, no, no, no, Nissan is

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>not like Toyota, that they're they're not like the other conglomerates.

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Y're not like Mishibi through a new conglomerate, and they're

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna they're gonna do fascism for us. And this

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 1>works eventually, um and she gets transferred fully to Maduria

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and all of this stuff gets approved basically because she's

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:36.839
<v Speaker 1>moving in there and proposing this this five year plan,

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>which is the normal is expensive, by the way, But

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>but the reason, the reason that she's able to do

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>this is rights is getting in there. The Second Sino

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Japanese War starts, which is part of World War two

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of its own thing. I don't know,

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:54.399
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of running arguments. They had a war

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that was in its brutality and death toll comparable to

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 1>World War Two. With the same time World War Two

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>was going on. Um, you know, I occasionally Americans noticed it.

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>There's some good Woody Guthree songs that thank the mighty

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Chinese vets. But um, yeah, you know what I mean,

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like that, there's this whole thing like I mean like

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>like in China, like a lot like it's like that

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>whole war is called the Anti Japanese War or the

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>war resistance, because yeah, you know, because like like that,

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like you know, for most of the time this is happening,

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>they from for about three or four years, China is

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>just fighting the entire Japanese army by itself, and you

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>know this is yeah, well we'll we'll we'll get into

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.240
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that that that the Chinese government is always

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>going to sort of suffer in this. But you know,

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but the consequence of this for Chi she is that

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 1>like he gets just total economic power and sort of

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 1>political power menure. He can just you can do literally

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever he wants. And the thing that he wants to

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>do so okay. So so his big thing is his

0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>big major thing is he wants to implement the five

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>year plan to you know, turn this Joe warconto me.

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:03.879
<v Speaker 1>The second thing he wants to do is just get

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:08.240
<v Speaker 1>absolutely wasted literally every single night, like he she okay,

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>well that scans Look if you're gonna be war crim

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>sober yeah no he yeah, And like you know, like

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>all of the sort of Japanese officers and Japanese bearcats

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>like go clubbing, but like even the other like the

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>other versa. I know, every now and then I go

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>out club and get a little drunk with my friends,

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 1>commit a couple of war crimes. This is padlock an

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>apartment gate closed with anyway, all right, what this continue? God? Well,

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing with Kishi is like, okay, so everyone's doing

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>this a bit at the time. She she is literally

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>going to clubs and getting wasted every single night. Like

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>even the yakuza people are like, what are you doing

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>like it's like I have to take a second here

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to tell the story about the absolute shattist Japanese officer

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard of. So when I was in I've

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:06.919
<v Speaker 1>been Okinawa a couple of times because my parents lived

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>there for years and years and years, both when they

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 1>were kids and then later as adults. And like, I'm

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>not trying to like whitewash the problems with American bases.

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>There's a big, very active and I think very righteous

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>movement try to remove the basis on Okinawa. But we're

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about the origin of that too. Yeah, I

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>had I I had no no say in any of that.

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>My parents just lived there. Um. But so I went

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>on this tour of like sites from World War two

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>on on Okinawa, and one of the stories they told

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>us was about this Japanese officer who when the Americans

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>invaded Okinawa, he was at a brothel just like, had

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:43.280
<v Speaker 1>been drunk and fucking for days, and they Americans advanced

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>quickly enough that by the time he sobered up, he

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>found himself several miles behind the American lines and alone,

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.720
<v Speaker 1>hung over and having just fucked himself, silly snuck past

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the American lines. Made it back to his unit and

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>then proceeded to lead them in battle for weeks. Is

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>incredible chat energy. You know. I say this so like

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>like this is just that's just the default condition of

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the Japanese officer cord in this whole war like that,

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that's like they like this is this is what they're

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 1>doing all of the time. If it weren't for the

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>millions of dead, it would be a real rock situation. Yeah,

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, like we're not saying these dudes rock. No,

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>these dudes in fact do not rock. Do not rock.

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to emphasize this by like how cringe

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Kishi actually is, Like okay, so there there's a quote

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>of Kishi where he he said he describes himself as

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>and this is a direct quote quote Playboy of the

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Eastern World, Like she just calls himself this, okay, Yeah,

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. He also spends just like an enormous amount

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of time in in the brothels. Do we have a

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>picture of this man? I feel like I need a

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>visual of somebody who would dare to give themselves that title. Unfortunately,

0:40:58.040 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>most of the pictures of him are from like when

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 1>he's old Dick Pills look if you're gonna be, if

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna if you're gonna be fucking like a Japanese

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 1>imperial officer, you're gonna need dick pills. Look, there's no

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>shame in it. Like the best athletes like Lance arms

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Strong fuck Like yes, the saying is Keishi probably needed

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>dick pills. I'm sure he did. If you're going to

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>be the Lance arms Strong of lecherous Japanese military officers,

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna use some. You're gonna dope, and that's fine,

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and that's why we sell dope. Dick dope. Here's some ads. Okay,

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 1>this man is this man is not like Okay, Okay,

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'll say is he's not it. Okay, But Sophie,

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I think if if there's one reason why men join

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>imperial militaries and travel to foreign lands to do violence,

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it's because it's yeah, he's here for them to get

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:05.240
<v Speaker 1>laid that because they're not they're not. You know, people

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>who were like really pulling it in back home generally

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>don't invade foreign countries. I mean, fair enough, the Nazis

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.240
<v Speaker 1>still not a lot of guys who were like knocking

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it out of the park with the with the with

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the exception of oh ship what was his name? The

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>guy Hitler had killed in the Night of Long Nights.

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Ernst Rome was pulling it down, and it's baffling that

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 1>he became a Nazi in the ship. But anyway, whatever,

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this man does have like a decent like no,

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't take it. I've got I've gotten, Sophie, this

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>discussion on our side podcasts. How fuckable was this war criminal? Yeah,

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean coming out on the I Heart radio network

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and July of you just went back in time. But

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that's so I know, Sophie, Chris. Would you like to

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>continue this podcast? We've del guest. Sophie's derailed you enough.

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I will fight you continue. Yeah, well, I'd like to

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>see you try. Robert is actually like Robert is kind

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of onto something on the like the reason you go

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>to do imperialism is so you can just like have

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>sex constantly. Yeah, absolutely, well you know and did yeah yeah,

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is what the Japanese is doing it. And

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this is where we should mention that Kishi is an

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>inveterate rapist, like like sereal mass rapist. Um. Yes, so

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:31.919
<v Speaker 1>so those those brothels I was talking about, so well, yeah,

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>so there's there's like there's like a small number of

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 1>people in there who, like our sex workers, like eighty

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to ninety percent of those people were just like kidnapped

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>from Japan and like brought there by force. And yeah,

0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and so you know, and this is you know, and

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>she's going there like every like one or two days. Right,

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.320
<v Speaker 1>he's at one of these brothels. And you know, Okay,

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>even if like somehow, like by like some miracle, he

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>somehow only had conseexual sex there, he's also just like

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>he he's like he has one of the weirdest like

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>sex things I've ever heard of, which is that like

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>every time like he was served a meal, he would

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>demand to have sex with the raitress. Um. Yeah, it's yeah,

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you know and like those those people, like those women

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like absolutely did not consent to that, which means he

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>is like this man. Yeah, he is like raping people

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>like basically every day. So far as to say that

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 1>in most situations, you can't properly consent to a man

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 1>occupying your country with armed force, now, I will say

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I will say so so because because he is a racist,

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>like inveterate racist, he will only sleep a Japanese women.

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>But those people were also brought there by force by

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>by the opposite and she so. So while he's imprisoned

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in Ete forty eight, he has there he has an

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>interview and his description of this time is quote, I

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>came so much it was hard to clean it all up.

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Like he has like he has he has a he

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>has a guy, Like he has a specific guy. He's

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like a specific maid who's job it is to clean

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>up his sheets every night. Like yeah, he's God and

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you know he's got to come servant. That's yeah, this

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is like a thing. This is like a lot of

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the like the weird Japanese sex fascists. Like there's like

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a person who has to clean up all their ships.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Like there's there's I'm blanking on Blanco name. Like there's

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that famous, uh, like fascist Japanese poet who's like like

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the Japanese Nobel laureate who's a fascist and like kills

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>himself in the sixtet or something when when his coup fails,

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>like that guy. Also, yeah, like there's there's a person

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>who had to clean out his sheets and like his

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>robes and ship. Also check out my upcoming punk band

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:42.839
<v Speaker 1>out weird Japanese sex fascist. Yeah. There, there's gonna be more.

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry where we we have not yet reached the

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>weirdest of the Japanese sex fascist that's coming next episode. Yeah,

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>quotes in this episode already. Yeah, you know, but I mean,

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like so like the fact that he's raping women like

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>every day. I think like this helps explain what otherwise

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I think is kind of almost unexplainable thing that we're

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about in a bit, just like the

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>amount of violence that we're about to see. But you know,

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 1>so the other thing that's happening here, she's going to

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 1>brothels like it's not It starts out as just like keis,

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>she's like a statistic rapist, but he also is doing

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>official business there, and and his official business is that

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he's networking with local yakus at bosses. And this is

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>where we get to sort of like formally introduce the

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>third piece of the sort of fascist triad in Japan.

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>So you know, you have you have fascist army officers.

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you have people like Kishi who are bureacrat technically

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 1>civilian bureaucrats, but you know, are also fascist and working

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>through the sort of planning agencies there, and the third

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>wheel is organized crime. Now the yakuza there there. You

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of organized crime winds up sort of

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>backing fascists. But the yakuza are different from you know,

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 1>say like the Italian mafia in that they're like fanatically

0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:58.760
<v Speaker 1>right wing and they have been basically in the eighteen seventies,

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and they're like these are like the Yakas are a

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of people who invented fascism in Japan. Like they're

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>they're like they're like the first proto proto fascist groups.

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Are are these like giant Yakasa organizations and they're I

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>mean they're really tied in with the state that there's

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 1>this story about how like so one of the one

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of the first giant yakas a fascist groups is called

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the Dark Ocean Society. And these guys, you know that

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>their triads like they did they're doing drug stuff. But

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.360
<v Speaker 1>like the Japanese Ministry of the Interior asks them to

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 1>like this this isn't like ninety ten. They asked them

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to help like Japan's stage and incident that will let

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>them invade Korea. And so like these guys like they

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>have like they have like special forces training myself. Oh no,

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.840
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I mean you know, that's what's what you

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.200
<v Speaker 1>do when you're young. Everyone's got to do a little

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>bit of invading Korea. It's yeah, yeah, well, as long

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>as you don't take it too far, it's fine. Oh boy, yeah,

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 1>we're well, yeah, we're we're gonna get your taking it

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>too far. But you know, like the thing is, like

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 1>these guys like they like break into the Imperial Palace

0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and assassinate the Empress of Korea. Like yeah yeah, Like

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the like the Akasa, like they have they have military training,

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 1>they have intelligence training, they're they're incredibly efficient political source,

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like like sort of private political operation. And when Kishi

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>meets with them, they basically just agree to solve all

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of Kishi's funding problems. And you know, they can do

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this because the japan like the Akasa has an enormous

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>amount of the accusan and Mentua is like an enormous

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>amount of money. And the reason I have this money

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>is because they run the drug trade. Like basically it's

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>a good way to make money. Yeah yeah, yeah, And

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, and Kishi she basically like offers to like

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>formally let him into the Japanese state and you know,

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and the everything is offering them was like, hey, you

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 1>guys want to do fascism, Like if you fund me,

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I will do so much fascism. And the accus is

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>like hell yeah. And you know, and this is this

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 1>is the thing I don't think people understand, but about

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the Japanese Empire, like it's a cartel, Like the whole

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:52.320
<v Speaker 1>thing is a cartels. It's like a cartel with like

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>an army and a bureaucracy strap to it. And and

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>this is especially true true and menchu Quo, where you know,

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 1>with with Yakuza backing, like this project is like almost

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.319
<v Speaker 1>self financing, like the you know, but by by by

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>by the mid nineteen thirties, like fully twenty percent of

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 1>the Japanese population is addicted to either opium, heroin or

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.720
<v Speaker 1>one of the other drugs that the Yakas aren't running.

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.320
<v Speaker 1>And this means that, you know, when when the Accusa

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 1>really start to formally ally with with the sort of

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>state government, and you know, the state government people are

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 1>also doing drug running, but you know, there's just like

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>full scale emergence and by that point, fifty of all

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.439
<v Speaker 1>state revenue in manchu Quo is just from the drug trade,

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like the Quantum Army, like they literally

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like they start they launched invasions of parts of China

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 1>so they could take over opium and heroin factories, and

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>they just they just like start making heroin and opium

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like for the Accusa. Because this whole thing is just

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:44.399
<v Speaker 1>a cartel. Yeah, I mean everything is when you get

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>right down to it. Yeah, in the British are like,

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>this is a podcast cartel, and like any other cartels,

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>we're actively engaged in battling the Mexican military in the

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>foothills of of of northern Mexico. You know. Look, I

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>keep like I keep saying, Japan is China's Mexico mm

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and and as a result, we are also fighting the

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Japanese military in order to aid in the spread of

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>podcasts across the aisles. Um. They actually have taken no

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>efforts to stop us. So it's been very hard to

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>start those fights. But we're working on it. We're working

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 1>on it. Look, you can you can always get into

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a gun battle with the facts, if if if you believe,

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.319
<v Speaker 1>if you believe, Sometimes you have to force yourself into

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>being an armed cartel. Sometimes the state says what you're

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>doing isn't illegal, and there's no need for us to

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>have have an armed conflict. But you know, that's what

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>separates uh, you know, the cartels from the people not

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:46.240
<v Speaker 1>committing organized criminal activity. So the sort of final stage

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of this is that so Kishi's successor in has this

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>idea and you know, and you could just like persistently

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 1>has labor shortages, and his plan is, oh, wait, hold on,

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>we can use that. We can use the opium problem

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>to solve solve our labor problem. And so they start.

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>She sets up this like the series of these uh

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>what are supposed to be drug rehabilitation centers, and you know,

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>about two million like drug addicts show up to work

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>because you know, they show up to drug rebilization centers

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 1>because people like don't want to medict it. And what

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the centers actually are is you walk into the center

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 1>and you walk on the back of the center, and

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 1>then you're into force labor camp. Yeah yeah, they got them,

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>they got It's great, it's great. And then and then yeah,

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:26.879
<v Speaker 1>they tricked them. And then so there's like two hundred

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>thousands of people who like are brought by their families

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and like they show up like they they're not physically

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 1>fit to work, So the Japanese government injects them with

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>what they call an opium detox supplement, and the opium

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 1>detox supplement is actually in fetamine. Means it's great and

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:48.800
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. We just recorded the episodes that they're running

0:51:48.840 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the week we we record this about like the Nazis

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 1>and drugs. But yeah, when meth first came out in

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Nazi Germany, was obviously invented in Japan. But when meth

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>first got popular in Nazi Germany, it was advertised as

0:52:01.480 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a treatment for opiate addiction. Um, which I guess, yeah,

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 1>if you get horribly addicted to meth, you you you

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>won't do as much opium. Yeah, well, you know what,

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>what what the Japanese government want out of this is

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that like, okay, so these people can't physically move, and

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>we need a drug that can allow them to like

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>move so they can be our slaves. And yeah, so

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that that that's that's a solution to that. And yeah,

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 1>so you know, not wanting to be outdone in the

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of forced labor department. In August seven, she she

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 1>signs this bill that lets him just enslaved prisoners of war.

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>So sorry, sorted. It starts with POWs and is expanded,

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know, by the time you get to the expansion,

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like anyone doesn't have a job, where like anyone

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.320
<v Speaker 1>they define as a bandit, which is like a bandit

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>is just anyone who doesn't like the government. And so

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Butty eight, it's okay, we can enslave just

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>anyone we see on the street, and the people who

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 1>aren't technically enslaved. She pushes this thing that he calls

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 1>unifying wages, which means forcing like everyone in you know,

0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 1>every everyone in Mentriqua, including like just the other random

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>capitalists are still there to to lower all of their

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.880
<v Speaker 1>wages down to to to like follow his planning model.

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>And when when I say lowering wages, what I mean

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>is that he figured. You know, Kishi's thing is that

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a beercrat. Right's about efficiencies, on about rationality, And

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:29.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing that he's rationally and efficiently decided is that

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you should pay Japanese Chinese workers exactly enough they don't starve.

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's better than paying them enough so little

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that they do starve. Well, that that starts to happen too,

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, yeah, yeah, and then the wage

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the wages keep going down because they need to bring

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>labor costs down that you know, because that's the other

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>way they're funding all of this is by just not

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 1>paying people. Now, you know, and labor in Mentriqua had

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>already how already basically been a bunch of the acaste people,

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>like like a bunch of oks of people are in

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the factory and if you take a step out of line,

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 1>they beat you. Now she she's like, okay, we're going

0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to rationalize this, and she's rationalization means that you know,

0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 1>instead of it being independently the the aucus of hoting

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>these people to work for like nothing, Uh, he's going

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to bring you know, he's gonna bring them into the

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 1>state and so you know, he's gonna replace the paramilitaries

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 1>with militaries. The accuser and the MP's are going to

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>get replaced with you know, bureacrats, regular police. And the

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 1>final thing this means is conscripting or enslaving like Chinese

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 1>male farm workers to work in work camps and then

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>forcing their families and children to work in the fields

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 1>in their place. It's yeah, and this this is where

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>the race science starts, because you know, Japan, Japan has

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 1>its own race science that they kind of developed by themselves,

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of import from Europe and you know

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.439
<v Speaker 1>this this is part of their like tailorism, like labor

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>discipline rationalization process is they start doing these quote unquote

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>scientific tests for for body shape, for cranial size, for

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>nose structure, and they turn these measurements into these like

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:11.200
<v Speaker 1>basically racial baseball cards with like numerically ranked Yeah, yeah,

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>raceball cards. Yeah that they you know, they'll they'll be

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like different points for like how much like like what

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>what the shape of your skull is, like how big

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 1>your noses? And these gives you more or less points,

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and you like you hold up, you hold up the

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>raceball card, and you know you nextra a migrant worker

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, okay, so which how how highly does

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 1>this person score? And I'm going to read a quote

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>from the book Absolute Erotic, Absolute Grotesque, which is a

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 1>history of this period of a title. Yeah, it's great,

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's it's an incredibly wild book. It's like

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like half about fascism and half about the way

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that it's sort of the way that it's driven by

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>what what this this like thirties Marxist like Japanese sociologist

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>calls the declining rate of pleasure, which is about how

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like and you know, and I think this is this

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:57.840
<v Speaker 1>is actually fist is what happens in Japanese Empire is

0:55:57.880 --> 0:55:59.879
<v Speaker 1>that you know, this is already a really violent place,

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and you know, in order to sort of extract more

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.799
<v Speaker 1>pleasure out of like sex, right, they start getting they

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>start going to stuff as more and more violence. And

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>this isn't just like a sort of like porn thing

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:11.800
<v Speaker 1>or like the points more stream like no, no, like there.

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>They constantly have to seek out like more like increasingly

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.360
<v Speaker 1>more violent ways of like raping people. And this is like,

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is one of the sort of psychoses

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>that like drives this whole, like ex matsion project and

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the other one, the other psychosis is racism. So yeah,

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna read this quote. Um. Actually, the

0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the s r M, which is the State Reeler Company

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Studies classified coolies into three types, the Shandong type, Tohobei type,

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and the Manchurian type, consistently making up over se of

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>all the North Chinese immigrant immigrant laborers. Shuang Dung coolies

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:46.800
<v Speaker 1>were profiled as a quote thick gold type representing a

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>low level of culture and capacity quantities confirmed by their

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 1>strong backs and powerful grip. Their biometrics of large jaw cranials,

0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:59.279
<v Speaker 1>circumference of fifty five centimeters facial length at one point

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>three five to one point four times the line of

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the lower jaw, prominent cheekbones, stupidity, big teeth, a bridge

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of the nose that indicated docility, submissiveness, and barbarity added

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:13.719
<v Speaker 1>up to quote a type perfectly suited for physical labor.

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Who Abe coolies were a little smarter than those from Shendong,

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so they're anthropologically superior cranial shape. Owing to this

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:24.040
<v Speaker 1>racial profile, who coolies were seen as the best for

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 1>semi skilled labor of carpentry, plastering, and bricklaying. Wow, I

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>want one of those. I want I want that meme

0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of the two hands meeting in the middle. That's like

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Western racists Japanese racists and in the middle exactly the

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:45.120
<v Speaker 1>same ship. Yep, Like it's you know, what if? What if?

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 1>The things that I was realizing, like as I was

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 1>reading this is the extent to which Japan is basically

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>just like like Japan is just like like it's like

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's East Britain. Like they have cousin marrying, they

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<v Speaker 1>have all this weird pedophile stuff. They have this giant empire,

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<v Speaker 1>they have like all the skull measurement cranial stuff. They're

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<v Speaker 1>both from this island. They both have this just like

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly weird like sort of sort of psychoses embedded in there,

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<v Speaker 1>in there like like in international culture that like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bummer that like one of the chunks of

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<v Speaker 1>Asia that most successfully resisted being colonized and being oppressed

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<v Speaker 1>by European powers did it that way by basically yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>by kind of like the British Empire but slightly different. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you can like like I think, yeah, like Ethiopia,

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<v Speaker 1>which like for a long time sort of like successfully

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<v Speaker 1>like repelled repelled etons, repelled or colonial forces, and they

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<v Speaker 1>like don't do this. Yeah, it's a likely way to

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<v Speaker 1>do things. Yeah, yeah, they're like, you know, there were

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<v Speaker 1>other ways. It's just the Japanese were like imperialism, what

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<v Speaker 1>if we did it? And you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of this is that like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in order to be able to do forced labor, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it is actually kind of hard to get human

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<v Speaker 1>beings to like make other like compel other human beings

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<v Speaker 1>by forced to do things. And you know, and this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of necessitates developing this like this sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>European style race science or just like keep the forced

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<v Speaker 1>labor system alive. And you know, this is this racism

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<v Speaker 1>and the mode of race theory. It's not confined to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of just like lower rank over people like Keishi

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<v Speaker 1>Keshi is an inveterate racist, Like he goes on everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who worked around him at the time. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>he would just like stop in the middle of like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm beating and go on this rant about how all

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese people are like lawless bandits and capable of following

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<v Speaker 1>rules and all of this. Yeah, you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and his solution to that is like, well, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese people like inherently can't follow laws because of racial stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only way you can get them to do

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<v Speaker 1>things is by like treating them like a dog and

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<v Speaker 1>just beating them, which is you know, not hire street dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, and and this this just like pervasive

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<v Speaker 1>racism is a big part of how you get everything

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<v Speaker 1>that happens next. So the Japanese like atrocities and chuqua

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<v Speaker 1>are are so bad that we don't have time to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Unite one, which is Japan's like well that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's own episode. The whole thing. That's Japan's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Mangela mixed with Auschwitz. Yeah. Yeah, they test you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they do a bunch of likes, but whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you get. Yeah, yeah, it's like basically they're doing biological

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<v Speaker 1>weapons testing on like live Chinese and Russian prisoners, like

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<v Speaker 1>A grade crimes against humanity and the Scottie Tiff of

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<v Speaker 1>crimes against humanity. You know, if it's I don't know basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume he was right, Sophie. He was the best

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<v Speaker 1>point guard of all of the touchdown footballer. You're doing

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<v Speaker 1>great birdies serving bicycle. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, it's really got

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<v Speaker 1>bro parts of that were me joking. Hearts all right,

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<v Speaker 1>please Chris continue. So, so Unit seven one is operating

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<v Speaker 1>under Kichi sturistiction, like you know, it's operating in in

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<v Speaker 1>metrical while he's there under sturisdiction, and we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time to talk about that. That needs its own episode.

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<v Speaker 1>What we are going to talk about next time is

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<v Speaker 1>Japan's forced labor system. Oh yeah, now that sounds you

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<v Speaker 1>mean by forced labor, I assume you mean like Jedi, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's we're gonna talk about Star Wars now

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna pivot. I mean, I think I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese would have benefited from just having the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>mind control people. And you know, I guess like militaries

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<v Speaker 1>would have. Yeah, yeah, and you know, I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>Jedi do like kidnap children and like educate them into

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<v Speaker 1>a religious cult, so you know, and they also they

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<v Speaker 1>also employed an enormous child slave soldier army. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is Star warship because let us know how many

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars fans get in your very Yeah. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>all right then, so we'll be back. We'll be back tomorrow.

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